#general
golden gust
hm
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no
vital karma
void void
like, actually become root
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become the ball
golden gust
tbf
austere ivy
find / is doing it a LOT SLOWER, which makes me think it's searching more.
Over find ., that is.
golden gust
That was just 10/10 stupidity
austere ivy
Also no, Mojave.
golden gust
You told it to
vital karma
Hey guys, I had a little trouble with tnt cannons. In the bedrock edition, the tnt will launch me in creative mode. In this server, I dont get moved by it. Is there a specific permission I need to set in one of the server files? please help
austere ivy
Yes but if it's not a directory..
golden gust
find doesn't give a shit about what a folder is, it goes find
void void
lmao / means search the entire filesystem
golden gust
"in the bedrock edition"
void void
it just finds and prints
unreal quarry
@austere ivy . is current directory.. / is root directory.
golden gust
They're both two different games
vital karma
I just remember when getting on my friends server on windows 10 edition, it would work
austere ivy
it also goes choo choo very slow with /
vital karma
are u guys aware of any permission in lets say paper.yml?
golden gust
if you have optimize-explosions enabled, try disabling it
unreal quarry
its not slow. its just scanning more. thats like searching an entire apartment complex for a clean pair of socks instead of just your room.
austere ivy
correct yes
vital karma
optimize explosions is already false
golden gust
Beyond that you'd really need to compare against a vanilla server, comparing java edition to bedrock is pretty... they're basically two different games
vital karma
what about tnt entity height nerf?
austere ivy
Question.
How do I make Finder's search not bad? Is there an option to make it search everywhere?
vital karma
velocity?
golden gust
it's not supposed to search everywhere
austere ivy
How do I make it search everywhere?
golden gust
Setup locate or something if you reaaally want searching that deep
austere ivy
I mean I navigate to my home directory, it SHOULD search everything in that directory, yeah?
golden gust
spotlight is designed for end users
vital karma
what is velocity-support??
austere ivy
Well it's not zbk D:<
golden gust
It's to support the velocity proxy
if you mean find, just change the . to where you want it to search
-xdev will tell it to not cross filesystems iirc
void void
dong
vital karma
disable-explosion-knockback: false what about that?
tnt still doesnt move me in creative
is it max-entity collisions?
austere ivy
Hmm, weird. Why is sudo still giving me operation not permitted errors?
austere ivy
What.
fallen oracle
There's sudo and SUDO
austere ivy
I'm on a Mac.
fallen oracle
aHH
austere ivy
Still the case?
austere ivy
Hmm 
golden gust
When I reaaaaallly must, I use filezilla
austere ivy
It's still Unix so it shouldn't be behaving this way?
NO!
ELECTRONIC! NO! D:
There's cyberduck.. transmit..
vital karma
whats experience merge max value?
golden gust
Maaaiiiiinly because I'm generally batching stuff in stupid manners and filezilla is the only real option that does parallel transfers
beyond that, rsync
.g paper readthedocs configuration
austere ivy
Does rsync work with ptero?
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://paper.readthedocs.io/en/stable/server/configuration.html -- Configuration — PaperDocs 1.12.2 documentation: "Apr 5, 2018 ... If you want information on settings in spigot.yml and bukkit.yml you should ... The default is to automatically use Paper's..."
golden gust
god knows, don't use it
vital karma
would any anti-cheat being enable prevent me from using the tnt??
void void
ptero only exposes an sftp server
golden gust
We have no idea what you have installed on your server
And once again, go test vanilla
golden gust
You cannot compare bedrock to java edition
vital karma
ill go test vanilla
fallen oracle
Would you guys like a plugin that allows you to browse /r/Minecraft in-game?
fallen oracle
I'm aware
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mfw reddit in game
austere ivy
Another one?
fallen oracle
I was going to link it lol
austere ivy
YES.
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there's enough trash in minecraft
void void
you want a plugin that lets you run arbitrary unix commands in game? :-)
austere ivy
Oh lol ;p
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let's not add more
fallen oracle
I already contributed to the original one
void void
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/bashful.51944/
i made this as a troll but apparently people actually enjoy it
austere ivy
I knew I saw it from you lol.
Wait you actually contributed, Glare? That's pretty cool ;o
You know with your cool portfolio I might hire you for work :D
fallen oracle
austere ivy
(if I had the money! :D)
fallen oracle
I did some cleaning up but he's changed it up a lot since I last did a PR. Might have to go through and do another.
austere ivy
I took a peek at the code a bit back, looks a tad bit above my skill level.
fallen oracle
This is the first mc plugin the guy had written iirc
vital karma
It works in Vanilla, so its the paperMC server
austere ivy
void void
lmao
austere ivy
I blame Mojave for everything.
void void
do you have any plugins on paper?
vital karma
only worldedit
golden gust
gg apple
vital karma
and bStatts
austere ivy
Glare if this is your website https://glaremasters.me I love it.
vital karma
bStats
void void
and it's very strange how you use the word "we" 
austere ivy
I actually really do love it, very much.
golden gust
You'd basically need to test craftbukkit and spigot to see if either of those break it
austere ivy
Good job on it actually ;p
vital karma
id have to test craftnbukkit or spigot by themselves?
austere ivy
It's that Security and Privacy thing, electronic.
fallen oracle
The other one is a template I modified
austere ivy
Gatekeeper or whatever.
It annoys me so much that Apple thinks that ONLY POWER USERS DOWNLOAD THINGS FROM THE INTERNET!
So in Mojave they made it a lot harder to download and run things from the internet.
fallen oracle
Which reminds me, gotta remove that discord stuff.
austere ivy
You have to specifically control-click (it's just right click for me, I set it to that) and open it.
golden gust
Basically, paper is a fork of spigot is a fork of craftbukkit
austere ivy
I clicked in the Discord thinking it'd be your personal server, Glare, but alas, it's just M.O.S.S.
Not in Mojave, zbk.
They removed the option.
fallen oracle
Oh is it MOSS?
austere ivy
Yeah :(
golden gust
if you tested on a vanilla server and it worked, you'd need to test on craftbukkit and spigot to see if either of those broke it
vital karma
would max-tnt-per-tick do anything?
austere ivy
I love joining peoples' private servers, makes me feel included.
golden gust
if you limited the TNT too much, maybe
fallen oracle
I personally like this one better but I can't take credit for the design https://glare.dev/
vital karma
entity tracking range?
fallen oracle
I just like the short domain.
vital karma
no, only server permissions
austere ivy
tehbrian.xyz best domain
austere ivy
99 cents a year, can't beat that!
vital karma
server properties I meant
austere ivy
I actually like .xyz domains.
austere ivy
For some reason they're more "fancy" to me than tehbrian.net or tehbrian.co
fallen oracle
I had planned to drop glaremasters.me but I realized I had too much shit on it.
Tied to it, that is.
austere ivy
Of course tehbrian.com and tehbrian.dev would be preferable, but one was taken and the other is.. expensive.
vital karma
I only edited spawn protection, enable command blocks to true, and I made the gamemode creative.
anything in server properties that would affect tnt?
void void
are you trying to explode tnt in the spawn area...
fallen oracle
vital karma
no lol
void void
@vital karma /tp 2000 2000 63
set off tnt, should be far enough away from any spawn block limit and try there
fallen oracle
My requests are mostly from nexus, apis, etc.
austere ivy
wait let me see.
fallen oracle
But I can't drop that or it'll break everything.
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void void
oh jesus it's xyz. /tp 2000 63 2000
fallen oracle
The number I have daily is going to be tripling soon because of something new coming.
Pretty pixels.
austere ivy
Glare, what's coming?
fallen oracle
Big plans.
austere ivy
👀
golden gust
only on 603 commits 😦
limber knotBOT
sometimes I wonder if I do commits wrong
golden gust
Also, github screws me as paper isn't running on master :/
limber knotBOT
I only ever commit when I judge I have a somewhat stable release
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git paper to move .14 to master :>
limber knotBOT
so I can have literally thousands of changes between commits
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we should do that anyways since that's where all the shit's at
golden gust
Issue is is that that will be a pita
vital karma
@void void doesnt work.
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gotta happen eventually 
golden gust
I just elect we say fuck people and just force push \o/
void void
well i dont know what your issue is. it's certainly not paper
golden gust
(But, literally only z can do that 😄 )
void void
try on a clean server, absolutely no file changes.
vital karma
it works on vanilla lol?
void void
absolutely no plugins
yeah, and in my test
it works on paper
just fine
you did something wrong
vital karma
do any of them have anti cheat?
golden gust
I think he's specifically talking about tnt moving a player in creative mode
golden gust
Why would he test something with an anti cheat plugin?
vital karma
no, li
golden gust
if it works in survival 🤷
vital karma
it works in survival but not creative.
void void
would any anti-cheat being enable prevent me from using the tnt??
wow, great question asking skills
"using tnt"
vital karma
thats not what I meant lmao
void void
well "using tnt" works great
austere ivy
Oh, folks, which is better:
fallen oracle
So the thing is, I could move everything over but I have way too much shit on my .me email
fallen oracle
So I'd have to keep the domain for a few years just to keep the email up.
austere ivy
The other one took 50x longer to render (like 2 hours) but I do like the blue-ness of the first.
vital karma
would u guys like to join the server?
austere ivy
Yes ^-^
void void
no
vital karma
to see what im talking about lol
fallen oracle
Hollup, is this even allowed? https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/bedwars1058-fix.70198/
merry talon
GH doesn't count commits to other branches? Wat
fallen oracle
He's posting a free fix for a premium plugin
fallen oracle
So is what he's doing allowed cat?
buoyant sphinx
golden gust
Not my call, lol
merry talon
In respect to the license yes
golden gust
Legally, there is probably nothing wrong with it
merry talon
Whether md wants to allow it who knows
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ah the gpl
golden gust
In terms of spigots rules and the general "we don't understand how licensing works", well...
vital karma
u guys should get on the server and we should fix it
golden gust
"u guys should"
austere ivy
I need ideas too, zbk ;c
golden gust
I told you to test something
void void
first of all @vital karma this isn't even the help channel, and we aren't obligated to fix anything at your order
do what everyone else does
EVERYONE
go to github
make an issue
fallen oracle
This dude has like 3 addons for it
vital karma
alright im just having a little fun and giving you guys something to do
thanks for the suggestions
sorry for intruding
merry talon
We have way too much to do
austere ivy
Electronic, are you a fan of iTerm2?
golden gust
I mean, I told you to test if it works on CB/Spigot
void void
yup
void void
which will also be the first reply on your Gh issue if you don't include that information
vital karma
i have the bukkit.yml and spigot.yml files
void void
Paper is based on Spigot. Which is based on CraftBukkit.
If you use Paper, you're using Paper.
If you use Spigot, you're using Spigot.
If you use CraftBukkit, you're using CraftBukkit.
golden gust
Yes, because paper is a fork of spigot, but that doesn't mean that I go out of my way to compile spigot/cb
void void
You need to test where the issue originates.
vital karma
alright I got it, I'll go ahead and test
golden gust
You are also the person who wants the bug fixing, the least you can do is help diagnose where the fault lies
vital karma
I gotcha
austere ivy
Folks who use macOS, iTerm2, yay/nay?
void void
If it's an issue in Paper, it could potentially be an issue in Spigot or CB. Likewise, if it shows up in Spigot, it could potentially be an issue in Spigot or CB, so test CB. If not in CB, but in Spigot, then report to Spigot. If it's not in Spigot, come back here.
golden gust
Yes, iterm2 is ❤
vital karma
sounds good
austere ivy
Worth downloading and using over Terminal/
golden gust
I'd say that it's a lot more refined than what macOS bundles
austere ivy
Can't go back.
golden gust
omzsh + iterm2 + brew = ❤
golden gust
oh my zsh
austere ivy
I do a semi-annually reset of my Mac computer so it's nice and clean, gets rid of any crumbs left behind from any apps I uninstalled or anything.
vital karma
just wondering, if I do find the issue being a result of spigot, what would be a solution? since paper branches off from spigot
golden gust
if it's an upstream issue, generally you'd report it to them
merry talon
you can use macOS without homebrew?
void void
spigot fixes it, paper pulls in from spigot, and wallah paper is fixed
austere ivy
So far my main downloads go something along the lines of Steam, Minecraft, IntelliJ, FL Studio, Blender, Homebrew, git, I guess I'll add iTerm2 and omzsh to the list.
golden gust
Basically, if it's a paper issue we need to fix it
if it's an upstream issue, we can probably fix it, but we don't wanna be running over our patches if it's a craftbukkit issue
vital karma
alright sounds good
austere ivy
I never liked having installers/wizards on Mac. I prefer opening up a dmg and dragging one application to the applications folder, OR just literally unzipping a zip file and moving the application myself.
Wizards/installers always feel kinda.. shady, to me.
austere ivy
Whatever, I guess just a superstition of mine. It can do the same amount of harm if it's opened either way.
golden gust
For things like office and vmware, it's kinda understandable that they have proper installers
austere ivy
I just never liked how some launchers, like Flash Player, (or FileZilla) try to sneak in Yahoo! or whatever in their launchers.
Real shady.
golden gust
that's called advertising
merry talon
on my servers anyway
I use outdated shit all the time on desktop
it doesnt phase me there lol
golden gust
For me, I just tend to have updates sitting there for daaaays
merry talon
because you don't know when it updates
golden gust
And well, it's not in a repo
Means 1) ^ 2) Who the fuck packaged it?
then again
huggles the aur
merry talon
lol
golden gust
optionals are more for API
void void
@static badge CompletableFuture<Optional<Boolean>>
austere ivy
Wrappers.
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golden gust
#KotlinMasterrace
austere ivy
Now that I'm learning Blender I'm going to model a :NOKOTLIN: for you.
void void
nope
vital karma
on it
void void
if it doesn't work cb, it won't work in spigot
austere ivy
golden gust
if it's broken in CB the "whodunnit" is already answered
vital karma
oh they dont
golden gust
Billy said exactly what I was going to say 😦
But, you'd more wanna create an issue on their jira
(Don't mention paper, they don't like that)
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do mention paper
austere ivy
As per Cardboard says, and I'll quote here:
golden gust
Spigot doesn't have a discord
void void
If you joined the Bukkit discord, good luck. They don't even maintain CB anymore.
Spigot is the maintainer.
So you report to Spigot.
golden gust
I would hopefully know if they did given the fact that I mod spigots channels
fallen oracle
Someone give me the API to download by build number?
austere ivy
Isn't that parchment?
golden gust
need the version number too, but it's in #404345080917262369 scroll up
cosmic raft
Spigot is not the maintainer of CraftBukkit. They maintain a fork of CraftBukkit.
golden gust
^^
austere ivy
Parchment, cardboard, paperclip, spigot, bukkit, cardboard, concrete, hmm..
golden gust
No
void void
Which, if he wants it to ever be fixed in Spigot...
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the og cb is dead
golden gust
spigot maintains a fork of craftbukkit
golden gust
I mean, the only thing that it changed was how we ship/manage the repo
vital karma
are you guys able to help at all if its craftbukkit or nah?
golden gust
if you think the DMCA is what killed bukkit, you're dum
vital karma
I dont have any faith in dinosaurs
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what even did kill cb :>
golden gust
the team saying goodbye?
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thx for the answer
void void
mojang being sneaky bitches and the team going "yeah im out mothafuckaz"
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next
golden gust
iirc, bukkit dropped their mic, some stuff happened, mojang came in like "we own this shit", and then somebody fired a DMCA
limber knotBOT
cb was dead long before
golden gust
See
austere ivy
What's funny is that Spigot is mad at Paper for being a fork and being better than them. Yet Spigot forked Bukkit and was better.. than .. them.
._.
golden gust
I coulda sworn that I'd already known that bukkit was owned by mojang at that point
"was"
limber knotBOT
we switched to spigot in 1.6 and to paper in 1.8
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) macOS users, what's your FTP client of choice and why? : webdev - 35 comments, 2 points - bnimbla, 1y ago
void void
i switched to spigot because bukkit got toxic as fuck
then i switched to paper because spigot got toxic as fuck
austere ivy
Electronic, if you ever need an sFTP for a quick thing, instead of FileZilla try Transmit or ForkLift.
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r/webdev 
golden gust
well, crap
limber knotBOT
we switched, because we needed some api spigot did not have but paper did have
austere ivy
Combine that with FileZilla's shadyness and you've got a recipe for me to switch on over to ForkLift ;p
golden gust
How do we become toxic enough to get rid of simple?
My major things are that I want parallel transfers and a file list
ever really saw anything do that too well
austere ivy
At that point Cardboard will already be better than Paper so simple you can just switch from Bukkit to Spigot and Spigot to Paper and Paper to Cardboard :peepoJuice:
austere ivy
We're adding VR support >:O
void void
\o/
austere ivy
Yeah,
vital karma
wait, who was the person who said they tested it in paper and it worked?
austere ivy
Oh wait actually I'm pushing some new things today!
Let me .. really quickly push that.
void void
i tested tnt itself, because your question was not clear enough from the get go
vital karma
oh gotcha
yes thats the issue
boom forum post
cuz i dont know where else to go
the bukkit server is a ghost town
golden gust
in other news, I should probably sleep, but before I go
I was going to insult simple, but like, meh; Not worth it for him
golden gust
plzthx
void void
ill bet your ram said the same thing
vital karma
I wish there was a way to compare level data between a vanilla world and this
vital karma
so I can see if its a setting
austere ivy
heck
Why do people keep trying to compile this!?????
Maybe I should make it a legitimate fork.
Started as a meme, maybe it'll evolve into something else.
.. nah it's staying as a meme
Or should it?
I'm curious on why it won't compile, actually.
Good point.
Wait.
Nova..
THAT'S the guy that joined my Discord server.
I was wondering why a random person showed up on it.
fallen oracle
@upper flicker Solid 15 minutes.
Made it a tiny little icon down below
I tried to make an API show those messages but CORS was having a fit.
limber knotBOT
Spottedleaf: https://pastebin.com/raw/ejUH605v (i tried your async chunk pr)
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vanilla issue
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in fact async saved ur ass there since the chunk would've not saved in vanilla :>
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mojang's lighting isn't threaded well evidently
limber knotBOT
yes
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so they're modifying some map asynchronously
austere ivy
HELLO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!
void void
no
austere ivy
Welcome to the twenty fifth annual Brian's Pro Tips!
This time, the topic for today is.. BLAME!
Now, who here has blamed someone? Raise of hands?
limber knotBOT
[wizjany] blame brian
austere ivy
You.. you.. yeah! Yes, everyone has blamed someone.
limber knotBOT
[wizjany] for everything
austere ivy
That's why, when ANYTHING goes wrong, blame..
Mojang!
That's right!
And that concludes this year's Brian Pro Tips.
See you next time!
void void
what about git blame brian
austere ivy
.remind -d -w 121476000046514178 1y Time for BRIAN Pro Tips.
limber knotBOT
DiscordBot: Reminder set for 1 year from now.
austere ivy
That works too, yes.
void void
who the fuck is brettplaymc and why is his life goal seemingly to minimod spigot
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.g brettplaymc spigotmc
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.spigotmc.org/members/brettplaymc.80037/ -- BrettPlayMC | SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft: "BrettPlayMC is a member of SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft. Male, from Spigot Street."
void void
most of his posts are just backseat moderating
austere ivy
Hot dog, he ACTUALLY owns the domain: https://myownweb.page
void void
one of the most anoying fucks i've ever encountered
as well as that shanebee dude
maybe im just a hater
austere ivy
I mean his website seems pretty good.
So I mean, that's.. cool.
Far better than mine :(
void void
you think any website that is designed even moderately decently is cool
void void
youre too pure for this world
void void
because he probably didn't design his website
austere ivy
Gotta say "web designer" or something cool.
void void
he probably just downloaded it and modified it
celest coyote
thats what people who don't know how to code say
austere ivy
Let me take a peek into the source code and see.
celest coyote
"im hacking their mainframe using html mods"
austere ivy
One of my eyelashes is really irritated and I think it might be infected ;c
I don't know, looking at the header, seems pretty legit.
void void
lol, brian
pls
it's really easy to get rid of any trace of an original author's name
austere ivy
If someone just blatantly copied a website then I'd imagine they wouldn't bother with the header. Maybe they would.
He seems pretty legit.
void void
ok
cosmic raft
god i hate getting food stuck in your throat
void void
638 subs is impressive to you as well
austere ivy
I mean this guy's doing stuff which can't be said about a lot of people.
Coding, youtube, I mean he seems to be doing what he likes doing.
A lot more productive than what I'm doing right now..
limber knotBOT
I need to step my yt game up
void void
youre literally 14 you're supposed to be outside eating bugs and skinning your knees on the asphalt brian
austere ivy
I'm 15 thank you very much.
limber knotBOT
false
fallen oracle
I ate mud
austere ivy
I used to have a youtube channel with sky.. oh gosh.
limber knotBOT
at 14 you're supposed to be spending every waking moment farming lobby in runescape
austere ivy
Skywars .. gameplay..
you're..
Thankfully I scrubbed my youtube, now it just has my lame songs from a couple months ago.
I still have to make more of those :p
I always seem to look back at my work more favorably as time has passed.
When I'm doing stuff I always wonder why I'm not as good as I used to be, but then months down the road I look back at what I was doing when I was making said stuff and I was like "Woah, .. why am I not as good as I was THEN?"
So if I just hyper-make stuff (which is what I'm trying to do, working on yt, editing, blender, coding, bla bla) then I'll be more impressed with myself and more productive overall.
limber knotBOT
lol I have a tenth of that dude's subs but my videos get well over 10x more views
austere ivy
I find that when I'm the least productive and doing the least amount of work that's actually useful to me, or anyone in the world, it's when I'm thinking about doing stuff.
I just procrastinate doing stuff because I want it to be perfect but then I just end up doing nothing.
^-^ link yt now please.
limber knotBOT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks-gyfGZuj0 gaze upon my glory and despair
(^-^) EliteMobs 7.0.0 update - length 9m 41s - 24 likes, 2 dislikes (92.3%) - 1,339 views - MagmaGuy on 2019.04.12
celest coyote
austere ivy
That's you?
merry talon
one of the most anoying fucks i've ever encountered
sounds about right
austere ivy
Subbed.
void void
lmfao putting your face in a plugin update video
magma
pls
thats like a vlog starter
limber knotBOT
yep it is
void void
youre going to lose subscriber
merry talon
he's using jquery on that site btw
limber knotBOT
tbf if I didn't want to do a vlog-style update vid I wouldn't do a vid in the first place, just a text changelog
merry talon
$9,999.99
austere ivy
incredible
merry talon
yeah I dont care how much you crammed into a 2x2" chip its not worth that much
austere ivy
^-^ @void void
So.
I've went through with my dream;
am now a professional youtuber.
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Setup Tour - length 5m 9s - 0 views - TehBrian on 2019.08.09
austere ivy
So I mean, there you go.
Setup tour.
I saw ^-^'s "setup" so I decided I'd give you a tour of mine.
High quality, please subscribe.
austere ivy
i have asthma
well, not anymore
but when I was a kid I needed an inhaler
I live with 2 dogs and am very allergic to dogs, and as such, when I am in this house
cannot breathe through my nose
extreme apologies
void void
you have to be bait
austere ivy
I'm not.
void void
LOUD SWALLOWING, SMACKS LIPS
austere ivy
I can show you my allergy charts, I'm very allergic to dogs. And we have two :D
hey gotta get those lip smaccs
void void
do you have braces
austere ivy
Nope.
void void
SMASH THAT LIKE BRUH-BUTTON
austere ivy
LOL
I'm actually laughing out loud I just rewatched that.
I didn't actually even review the footage before posting.
So I mean there you go, that's how you get real AUTHENTIC content.
Amazing.
Nice.
void void
i clicked the bruh button
austere ivy
Nice.
merry talon
austere ivy
Buying guns at walmart is.. weird, in my opinion.
And video games definitely don't cause violence..
Who are they making happy here?
merry talon
thanks mr. no shit
fallen oracle
vestal jasper
Who are they making happy here?
retards
void void
still a great scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8vH67cX0GU&feature=youtu.be
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) You're such an ass - length 5s - 7 views - J A on 2019.01.01
acoustic pilot
are you gonna play classic too?
void void
school is going to bend me over and have its way with me
i can already feel it
(in the air tonight)
bu dum ba dum ba dum ba dum dum dum
austere ivy
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Communist Eggs - length 59s - 1 like, 0 dislikes (100.0%) - 14 views - TehBrian on 2019.02.07
vestal jasper
What even is the point of that
That sounds like more work than just handling the arguments manually yourself
ancient bolt
show the first two please
void void
we called him out before because he called it IvanACF and literally ripped out of ACF
ancient bolt
this is amazing
void void
same
void void
here was ivanacf's wiki he never deleted https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/ivanacf-home/
looks a lot like he ripped MassiveCraft in this one https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/creating-a-basic-command-and-registering-it/
(didnt even prefix the wiki pages, so they're polluting spigot now)
he has a wiki page entitled "hooking" and it's literally at wiki/hooking
ancient bolt
how old is this kid
void void
idk man
ancient bolt
is he like @austere ivy
vestal jasper
Wasn't he the guy who stole ownership of someone's code? Or was that someone else.
void void
hes a russian tehbrian
yes he did that
he changed the package
and claimed it as his own
vestal jasper
nice
void void
Qball also stole code from RoboMwM
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mfw stealing robo's code :>
ancient bolt
ah, when you're famous for all the wrong reasons
when i steal other people's code no one notices
vestal jasper
So he's also the guy who got banned from like half the mc related discords :^)
void void
yea ivan is banned everywhere
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wow
void void
just about
void void
i think qball got called out because he stole robo's code then asked robo for help with it
vestal jasper
super(true); // the boolean corresponds if the command should be player only or not
This sounds super unintuitive
void void
yea fr
ancient bolt
bad APIs are fun to design
I should design more bad APIs
see how many people I can get to use them
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add more bukkit api
void void
Anyway his main argument for his continous creation of command "things" (wont even call this a framework)...is that "annotations bad"
ancient bolt
speaking of bad things, I'm still waiting for the first random issue / bug report on https://github.com/DemonWav/go-streams
void void
yw
void void
lol i was taking a hit as the page updated to "CLOSED"
choked
does it delete and let the numbering restart?
or did i forever claim #1
ancient bolt
unfortunately no
void void
sorry 4 the pollution then
(but not sorry)
Nice lib tho
looks cool
Don't know go, but I've wanted to try it for a while
ancient bolt
go is a pretty shit language
ancient bolt
that library is implemented 100% with reflection
void void
oh god
ancient bolt
because go does not have any kind of generic programming methods whatsoever
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ancient bolt
feast your eyes https://github.com/DemonWav/go-streams/blob/master/stream.go
ancient bolt
I did my best to keep it understandable
void void
what the heck is a ploader pro
what the fuck?
im guessing its some plugin reloader?
im not sure if he's trolling or not bc i read that whole thing
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) ploader Pro 1.4.x | Bypass plugin limit restrictions - length 6m - 30 views - Devon Casper on 2018.12.20
void void
plugin limit?
tldr?
Allows you to flash reload your server with plugins like ProtocolSupport or ViaVersion installed
easier to just not reload imo
yea
thats why i thought he was trolling
just fuckin restart
lmao
it also adds a secondary plugin folder alt_plugins to which you can put everything except ploader to bypass the plugin limit on select hosts
lol
yeah.. gamehosts are pretty much universally terrible
simple who wrote this
he did
thats ploader
reloading is great if done correctly with this plugin, as you can narrow down your reload to only a select couple plugins and get your reload time down to only a few seconds and if your entire server basically runs off one plugin then it is a blessing
simple
that is not ploader
that's the server plugin
just dont use plugins
plugins suc
^ i just patch stuff into paper directly
idk, that's the thing you linked in your image
ploader is private on github because it is a paid plugin
but whatever
no stupid bukkit overhead
i use skript bc big brain
the PR linked is a PR on my main server plugin repo
that works too
a PR to add support for the plugin
for native flash reload support
lol
flash?
it just sounds cool ok
thanks for all the screenshots
sarcasm*
what the fuck is the class called $
Why
What sane reason
Again you are looking at the main server plugin lol
Yes I know
It is called
The question stands
cut message off short
link me simple
it is called $ because it is a function class
and it is used in really long one lines, and it fits better
This is not jQuery @void void
Do not make Java more filthy than it already is
The Java Gods will smite you
It used to be called Util and then Go and then $
Stop calling it $
You are causing pain and degeneracy across our beautiful Java Valley
Okay then what do you want to call it
your class is kind of big
It appears to do many purposes
Have you heard of Single Responsibility Principle?
It used to be much bigger before I structured the plugin and put commands into their own classes and moved events into categorized classes etc.
This is the main server plugin for the server, a 7 minigame server runs off this plugin
That is not excuse to have shit code, no offense
Ok bud
If you think it's so bad you can PR
It seems like it would be rewriting your entire damn codebase
So, I'll pass
why are we discussing this btw, it started with you posting a random screenshot
Because he was trying to flex
I'm teaching him why he should not be flexing
flex what?
His awesum c0de
im big confused
im big high
nice to meet you
the flex was a discord screenshot saying how hard classes are or something
?
Rant about how annoying dealing with server reloads is
ask anyone here and they will say dont reload
correct
and I would agree
Bukkit reload is the worst possible thing you could ever do
ploader modifies the reload function in bukkit, and allows you to configure it on a per plugin basis
uhm
yes I know
celest coyote
void void
@void void What commit are you looking at? I just confirmed my suspicion that it is not like that on head
yeah it was a commit in the PR, but i didnt release it was oldest at the top
yeah, that mess was caused by a mistake on my part not turning on match-case for the find and replace
so it patches the server jar?
aren't there already plugins that let you do single plugin reloads?
plugman or whatever
fucc this soup is so good
i cant hold back m8
yes but that is not the goal of this, the goal is to improve the bukkit reload command, not provide an alternative like those other plugins do
but in the video you used the command "ploader" ?
im so confused
yes because ProtocolSupport blocks the /reload command
you're patching the jar... for what
so I used /ploader server reload which is an alias to /reload
the jar is patched to modify the /reload command within the craftbukkit code
a lot more then that but that is an over simplification
that's just bizzare, couldn't you just tell users to use a different command?
yeah lol...
what else is it patching, are you breaking shit
I could but then that's basically saying use plugman instead
yeah im saying that too
it is patching SimplePluginManager.java, CraftServer.java, and JavaPluginClassLoader.java
but why
loadPlugins(), loadPlugin(), clearPlugins(), reload(), and something else is patched
im still not understand why i'd use this, which modifies my jar, over plugman
It was a bet on the ProtocolSupport discord
for me to make a plugin that allows someone to /reload a server with ProtocolSupport installed
how does protocolsupport block it anyway?
Simply catching the /reload command in commandpreprocess and blocking the event
vestal jasper
:⁾
void void
so how does /reload work for you then lol
so couldnt you just do commandpreprocess at a lower priority and catch it first? rather than doing this jar patch?
It stops ProtocolSupport from ever reloading in the first place
It skips ProtocolSupport all together
it's a no from me
yeah wat
no prplz, because ProtocolSupport patches the server on plugin load and reloading the plugin in any say would break it
and i urge you to stop distributing a plugin that patches the server jar
same with viaversion
well it is a little late for that
you patched the jar instead of using command pre process
W H Y
on the free version alone that I discontinued
I just said, using commandpreprocess won't work 🤦
It is blocked for a reason
/reload would break ProtocolSupport and ViaVersion
using command pre process to dispatch your ploader stuff?
Not possible
why is the premium version on spigot 401
patching the server jar was the only way? are you sure?
The only way to modify the native /reload command to work in such a way yes
but you could catch the /reload in pre process
🤦
I'm too tired for this
Goodnight
what is protocollib doing in pre process that you can't listen for at a lower priority
please stop patching peoples jars
lol, you facepalming like we're the idiots
pull that plugin
Why would I pull a plugin people actually use, you should learn how it actually works before judging by it's cover
we're literally not judging by the cover
no im judging it by its jar patching
we're judging but it's nasty nasty internals
thats NASTY
goodnight
well his ploader pro is 401'd on spigot
ploader Pro is not on spigotmc
ploader is
ploader the free version that was long discontinued is
You link to pro in ploader, to spigot
i sure hope you warn people well that their jar is being patched
It is very well stated in the description of the plugin if you read it
and now we know that we cannot support someone who comes asking for help and even has ploader (pro) installed
also thanks for letting me know I forgot to remove that hyperlink
You need to make that bigger, bolder, and redder
It's not a small thing
That is a gigantic nasty crazy insane thing that people need to know they are doing to their server
okay
You should also probably go ahead and change the server brand while you're at it
So that it's called out in crash reports
I should actually pull the free version from spigotmc though since I discontinued it
Because they're not longer using Spigot or Paper at that point
Good idea
if modifying the serve really something you need to do, you should make a loader instead of patching the jar
like how tweakers do in client mods
Jar mods is not something that can be loaded like a forge mod can
Mods and plugins have an api behind them for them to work
They are loaded by the same plugin providing the api
See the problem there?
You don't really need to talk to us like we're idiots, we're both devs
forge is loaded at runtime
Well I've been thrown off since the point prplz mentioned that ProtocolSupport might work with server reload just fine if you bypassed the reload block in commandpreprocess like as if it wasn't blocked for a reason.
notch names remapped to srg and forge binary patches applied
yeah you still made no sense on why you cant just listen to the event
listen for /reload in preprocess, cancel it, do your fancy reloading stuff
or just tell your users to learn how to type a different command than /reload
again, plugman already solves all this
also dont reload stuff
celest coyote
the jar mod isn't permanent though right
celest coyote
like if you remove the plugin the mod gets removed?
void void
It is reversible kickash32 with a command
void void
Just like how xbox 360 modding software installs drivers that don't get removed when you remove the portable application folder, and you have to manually run an application named "Uninstall Drivers" to actually remove it
weird analogy
I'm explaining that when you modify classes in a jar file it doesn't magically get reversed when you delete a completely unrelated file (the plugin), you have to run a function that does that.
no-one expects a plugin to do that, it isnt needed, and you should feel bad
Yeah, so while you're patching the jar, also patch something else that's gonna detect if your plugin is gone so that it can unpatch.
graceful wyvern
yeh, no way in hell id ever use that. dont touch the server jar with the plugin
graceful wyvern
maybe runtime patching with instrumentation, but touching the raw jar directly is a big nono
celest coyote
yeah why not just runtime patch
void void
thats the system for how client mods are loaded btw @void void
"mainClass": "net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch",```so forge ends up installing a json like this, tweakclass gets called to register bytecode transformers and such
What my plugin does is not for everyone, and it is clearly stated. I always keep an unpatched jar as backup. This plugin is different from plugman in the following ways
- modifies vanilla reload function instead of providing a different solution
- reloads everything with a configured blacklist instead of a specific plugin you specify
- much more permanent solution
- ***can be fined tuned down to only a few plugins being reloaded on reload for very fast updates
- also has all the features of plugman built in if needed
change it to runtime patch, or dont patch at all
Or I don't change anything about it and leave it the way it is that has worked for everyone all the way up to now
thats what people said about seatbelts at first
why do we need these? i've never crashed!
Rewriting how everything works would disrupt the regular update schedule, and bring in other issues
That's the same reason why paper still uses mojang's code, being that it would bring in a hoast of other issues to switch to their own server system and require all the devs to adapt to a different api then using NMS, and disrupt the entire release schedule and development process of paper.
celest coyote
your argument is invalid
void void
everything you've said is just weird and wrong, why are you like this
celest coyote
you are still modifying the same code, just at runtime