it is multiline not one line on my end, ffs
#general
void void
celest coyote
and you never put a disclaimer of how it actually works
void void
he does
just not big, bold, or red enough
for how dangerous it is
new slogan
"Everyone told you /reload was bad? Well here, I made it even worse!"
I'm not sure how adding per plugin reload support to greatly reduce reload time and plugin conflicts and sql errors among all else is worse
you PATCH the JAR
reload - bad
jar patch - bad
void void
why patch at all
celest coyote
if you don't care to, then remove the plugin from public download
void void
kickash I heard you, but the others here are saying patching in and of itself is bad
so people can type /reload instead of /ploader ?
no we are not????
we are saying patching the fucking jar is bad
holy shit
yes
THE JAR
celest coyote
a shitton of nms plugins patch the runtime
void void
because you justified PATCHING THE JAR with how small of a piece of your code it is
and again
THE JAR
what the fuck?
READ
dude you broke simple
runtime patch is also patching the jar but at runtime and not actually modifying the file
oh my god
celest coyote
what....
celest coyote
there are very good reasons to only patch the runtime
if you plugin has a bug and crashes, great job you just corrupted the jar
if it was a runtime patch, no problem just remove that plugin
void void
why dont you add something to the crontab too, to watch over their server
celest coyote
wow is this a virus too
void void
the jar is just something you dont expect a plugin to touch
crontab is not accessible
and a lot of servers are run on windows
not really
as much as I hate the prospect of that
void void
you know that was sarcasm about the crontab right?
I run the rTerminal cPanel service and 48% of the userbase is Windows
you know what that is yeah?
I know you were joking but I took it seriously because that might actually work for detecting if the plugin was removed to remove the patch from the jar
HOLY SHIT
DO NOT FUCKING DARE TOUCH ANYTHING ON THE OS
void void
I said it might actually work, I never said I was going to do it
kickash32 I will look into runtime patching thank you
couldnt you just unregister the reload comand and add your own?
ANYTHING that doesnt require bytecode manipulation
Not high priority though since no one has ever had issues with the current way it is done, as people are smart enough to make backups of their server jars.
no, smart people are running servers without reloading shit
I use the word smart in relative context
Smart enough to read a disclaimer
not smart enough to know what is good for their server
jaunty bolt
vestal jasper
simple's going to have an aneurysm at this rate
void void
I'm real close
void void
I already yelled at him over that
The best minecraft server management solution available for general consumption. Have you ever wanted a plugin that could do the work of hundreds efficiently with low memory usage? Well then this plugin will satisfy your needs. With over 90 commands bundled with the plugin to make managing the server very easy, you can't go wrong.
quasi valley
void void
Should be reworded as the worst one for general consumption because I specifically designed it to not work without a lot of manual configuration to effectively gridlock it to my server only
The only reason I opensourced it was for legal reasons
Bundling open source software heavily modified into the code
It was closed source for 5 and a half years
merry talon
Skins are automatically retrieved from mojang and forced onto players as they join.
why
void void
Oh forgot to update the Readme
It's not cracked anymore. After 6 years we switched to online mode in april
woven otter
that code needs some Ctrl + Alt + L
merry talon
\s/L/Del
woven otter
quasi valley
lol
void void
Bukkit.shutdown(); triggers automatic restart on pterodactyl
I used to use screen and a restart script
alright ive had enough of this shit
ima sleep before i literally end up scraping my eyeballs out
quasi valley
have sweet dreams about that code
void void
Lmfao
so you loop every key in your config to find the uuids, to find the player balances?
im having such a hard time understanding this code
limber knotBOT
also gotts love recompiling the uuid every time
limber knotBOT
how can he claim efficiency if he doesnt see those easy flaws
void void
n^2 sort anyone?
woven otter
why there is a map named array1 🤔
limber knotBOT
and his licence in to the readme doesn't link to his licence
watch me grap that contributor tag 😂
woven otter
so many custom in the readme
void void
incase you dont want to scroll up: we're ripping into him because he has a plugin that patches the SERVER JAR
and wouldn't accept that it's very not good
void void
your clock is off
void void
._.
Yes the config search stuff is going to be gone very soon
you can't just answer that to everything we bring up
I am working on switching to sql and rewriting all that
main thread SQL i hope
quasi valley
without closing preparedstatements pliz
void void
I would never do async sql unless I knew för certain something won't be modified in the sql database at the same time else where
sql on the main thread is a good way to kill your server performance, also what are transactions
Trying to write English with a hochdeutsch auto complete omfg
limber knotBOT
fix your keyboard then
void void
Not with redis prplz, everything is cached so it is instant fetch despite the thread
limber knotBOT
every good keyboard is able to suggest in the language you are typing
no.
its it "Instant"
its not
there is always a noticeable delay
since its network io
void void
Well compared to mariadb access in my testing it's a hell of a lot faster on the main thread
why do you seed your randoms like that btw?
void void
i want you to explain it to me
limber knotBOT
merge my pr pls 😂
void void
Because without seeding the random it isn't random
It follow a positive trendline otherwise
but you seed it with... some other random?
where does that random come from?
Look up a graph
The hash of a uuid is not another random
limber knotBOT
talking about the randomness of java.util.Random
limber knotBOT
its easy, its random enough for normal use, for crypto use we have secure random
void void
limber knotBOT
ye I saw that
void void
@void void what you should do is just store one Random instance for your usage
limber knotBOT
instead of just using one random instance, that would be way more random
void void
Danke schön
limber knotBOT
it would also be waaayyy more efficient because you are not reallocating garbage
Bitteschön
oh this is new https://i.imgur.com/GjtRgty.png
void void
You two are contradicting yourselves, one says I should use one random instance för all randoms which is a horrible idea all around because then it's not random för shit, and you are agreeing with my current setup
Contradicting each other*
one random instance is random
Not by a long shot
Using the same seed för all random values is not random
limber knotBOT
random enough for your applications, lol
limber knotBOT
it is if you use the same random instance
void void
the seed is time based dude
quasi valley
then use a SecureRandom, but what the hell
celest coyote
I dont think you understand how random numbers are generated
void void
you're saying that one instance of random created at server load isn't random enough?
olive garden
reusing a single random instance is exactly how it's supposed to be done
you can also just use ThreadLocalRandom
and enjoy the broken Java stuff eg. ThreadLocalRandom having utility methods which Random doesn't have
celest coyote
What are you even using the random for
olive garden
item amounts
celest coyote
Wtf you dont need high randomness for that
void void
You all are making me laugh so hard. Reusing a seed is the worst idea ever för random teleportation and chances let alone security, because then all values generated from that instance follow the same trendline. You all need to graph out the random values so you see what I am talking about
celest coyote
We arnt talking about security
quasi valley
S e c u r e R a n d o m, also for your case why in gods name would you even want to have THE ULTIMATE RANDOMNESS?
limber knotBOT
it. does. not. matter. for. your. application.
quasi valley
^
void void
@void void then why not just use a securerandom instance? instead of uh
seeding using a uuid
limber knotBOT
heck, a simple xor shift random would be enough 😂
void void
So you dönt get a diämond 5 times in a row like I did before I added the random seed.
vestal jasper
so it's not random then
:^)
with a truly random system it is entirely possible to get a single diamond 5 times in a row and is likely to happen eventually
celest coyote
Do you understand how probabilities work, thats always gunna be possible
olive garden
you are reusing a SecureRandom instance under the hood to generate new Random instances
don't you think that's fucked up?
void void
Of course but making it actually random and not follow a trendline is a start
celest coyote
Using randoms to create new randoms is a superbly bad idea
olive garden
^
woven otter
use random.org api for true randomness
limber knotBOT
nah
void void
whats the worst that could happen if you just used a Random instance?
limber knotBOT
use cloudflares lava lamps 😂
olive garden
@woven otter in a blocking request, of course
since random.org is fast
and network delays don't exist
celest coyote
Do an io call and measure the ping and use that as the seed
quasi valley
if a single random isn't "random" enough, tell me why
Random random = new Random();
int count = 0;
for (int i = 0; i < 10_000_000; i++) {
if (random.nextInt(100) == 0)
count++;
}
System.out.println(count);
returns 99961 (always close to i / 100)
void void
amazon uses background noise from peoples amazon echo
vestal jasper
kek
void void
kidding
wraith hedge
celest coyote
In think in some OSes they use the mousemovent as part of the seed
vestal jasper
I recall some applications saying to move your mouse during setup
olive garden
mind=blown
void void
So you are all collectively saying I should use SecureRandom instead got it
olive garden
nope
quasi valley
we're saying you should use a single random instance
olive garden
^
void void
I am still laughing so hard at that
woven otter
we are saying that you should pull out your head out of the ass and stop making ridiculous assumptions
void void
I'm going to screenshot that
olive garden
lol
quasi valley
and we're laughing at your code, what are you on about
olive garden
I prefer Bob over you
woven otter
prplz was about to link that 
celest coyote
Devon thinks hes smarter than everyone. Even whens hes wrong at every turn 
void void
@void void we're saying you opted to replace Random with... the securerandom inside UUID
quasi valley
I mean, if you hadnt so proudly posted your update in multiple discord servers, we'd have never started this
void void
Exactly so using straight SecureRandom would be just as random and make more sense
woven otter
tbh make sure to use multiple SecureRandom so it's more secure
void void
Case closed
Oh why the fuck did I open this chat again
did you know you were using securerandom though?
Devon you make me want to fucking die
or did you just think random seed for a random was super random?
quasi valley
just do securerandoms inside of securerandoms for maximum security
celest coyote
Also using random and then getting a hashcode is also a bad idea
Unless you really know what you are doing and are a security researcher
void void
the hashcode is just the xor, its not that bad
vestal jasper
just resursively feed securerandoms into securerandoms and stop at a random iteration
celest coyote
Yeah but did he actually check if thats okay or not?
void void
but how many "random" iterations Vicarious?
celest coyote
Its just a bad idea in general
vestal jasper
and stop at a random iteration
void void
yes where do you get THAT random from
celest coyote
Yes random stop feeing randoms
vestal jasper
you have another securerandom'd securerandom determine when to sto
celest coyote
Its randoms all the way down
woven otter
I bet there's a paper written about his method of choice and we all are living in the dark
vestal jasper
although a 2 deep securerandom might not be securely random enough
celest coyote
Dont you think if this was an easy way to create more randomness, the java library would do this under the hood?
quasi valley
why are so many Germans so stubborn. I just hope Im not actually like this as well
celest coyote
You know why they don't fo this?
void void
i considered this could be a troll, but the sheer amount of awful code makes it unlikely
celest coyote
Because its dumbbb
void void
always consider that option
woven otter
he came here to enlighten us but we are uncapable of grasping what he offers us
celest coyote
Big brain hours
void void
@void void may i ask your age?
celest coyote
Im going to guess 17
woven otter
irc never forgets prplz but don't worry noone uses irc
celest coyote
Yeah its dino tech
woven otter
i think it's a text document
celest coyote
Lmao
quasi valley
I dont remember being like that at 17
peak dirge
I've seen people use SecureRandom in comically weird places
celest coyote
Only a high schooler could be that proud and think hes better than anyone else when he is talking to more experienced and educated people
void void
but have you seen the hash of a randomuuid tux?
peak dirge
yes is very random and good performances
void void
He's so sure that he's amazing that he has surrounded himself with people just as retarded as he
meanwhile he's screenshoting and calling US STUPID
And now they share screenshots
woven otter
tbh I think he needs this:
https://xkcd.com/221/
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) xkcd: Random Number (9 February 2007)
quasi valley
such humble, much performances
void void
See even Tux agrees with me
olive garden
@slim lake ?
void void
Lol WHAT
quasi valley
hes also dunking on you haha
celest coyote
Lmao
quasi valley
I want that level of self confidence, too
olive garden
okay, who is Tux?
woven otter
Tux not KingTux
void void
velocity and redisbungee guy
peak dirge
some Minecraft bloke from Georgia
olive garden
oh
peak dirge
might have made RedisBungee, Velocity, and a bunch of other things
quasi valley
cant even make proper profile pics, what a scrub /s
peak dirge
don't make me switch to the DEFAULT DISCORD PROFILE PICTURE >:D
quasi valley
not again, please
void void
it makes you realise how bad bungee really is, design wise
simple retarded prplz retarded tux retarded all retarded except devon
quasi valley
now you've got it
void void
Tux agreed with me so
quasi valley
again, he didnt
peak dirge
I was dunking on you, mate.
woven otter
sarcasm is tough to grasp
quasi valley
a third time, he didnt
vestal jasper
Should work on picking up on sarcasm, it's difficult though so no worries :)
vestal jasper
ok retard
peak dirge
It's sarcasm!
woven otter
that's how it works in real life.
wraith hedge
prplz
quasi valley
I like how he doesnt even respons to anything but as soon as he thinks someone agreed with him: SEE, SOMEONE AGREED
wraith hedge
are you the real prplz?
peak dirge
internet logic is so amazing
void void
Lol
limber knotBOT
anyone where played with the new github actions already?
merry talon
you guys fall for bait way too easily
limber knotBOT
I can't get shit to work 😂
peak dirge
and that's coming from someone who is getting ready to start living in a world of mathematical logic
void void
Different guy
woven otter
but you agreed Tux
merry talon
GH actions are really fucking annoying with the way they want you to create them
peak dirge
lol
void void
Ok sweep is talking now time for sleep
woven otter
sleep is overrated
peak dirge
ThreadLocalRandom will never do you wrong.
limber knotBOT
I still only seem to be able to use the old syntax
merry talon
yeah replenish those 3 brain cells
limber knotBOT
not the proper new yml
woven otter
it needs more security tux
olive garden
I don't think he is 17
void void
Tux you should have just said Random...
Sweepy
now he's going to use that against us
he's going to say how we were wrong
ur trash
oh boy
olive garden
sucks to be you, I did mention TheradLocalRandom 😉
merry talon
ur bronze
peak dirge
for maximum security, turn off your computer, unplug it from the wall, smash it with a hammer multiple times, and barf all over it
quasi valley
^
merry talon
dban it first
void void
I wish I could say I am a troll but if there is anything I take away from this it's that a majority of devs do not know how seeds work and how horrible of an idea it is to reuse the same random instance and seed för multiple different unrelated random numbers that need not to follow the same trendline to be even slightly random. I also will take away from this that I should use SecureRandom to shorten my lines.
quasi valley
???
void void
Oh my God
olive garden
wow
quasi valley
you should take away that you have a lot to learn and that you shouldnt brag about stuff without being able to take criticism
vestal jasper
Dude. You had 7 people unanimously siding against you.
peak dirge
And I happen to know that the LCG in Java is really bad at generating random numbers
void void
This guy is seriously on a new level
merry talon
is this guy just slamming on the keyboard
limber knotBOT
why do germans always need to ruin their reputation in this community?
quasi valley
no idea
limber knotBOT
now I am the sad guy again that everybody in here will make fun of because of what others do
olive garden
you made my day
merry talon
and ur retarded
woven otter
I wonder what he would use in an application that actually requires secure random
quasi valley
generating three securerandoms and combining their results
merry talon
systemTimeMillis
void void
Thanks for the laugh guys
vestal jasper
Honestly if 7 people in here unanimously told me something I'd likely take it as fact.
But I also avoid dunning-kruger by constantly self doubting myself so shrug.
quasi valley
he's still on that "Oh I'm so much better than you are" attitude
how can you be this stubborn
olive garden
hopeless
merry talon
you don't graduate from that in this scenario
woven otter
if 7 people prove you wrong therefore you are right
silent lantern
@quasi valley true words
limber knotBOT
hey, don't blame germans on this :/
silent lantern
yeah :/
vestal jasper
Digger you're bad too :^) /s
quasi valley
I dont, just half of them
peak dirge
Wisconsin
Let us consider the role of America in this situation
quasi valley
every second, but not all
merry talon
you guys just like beer way too much
woven otter
yeah mini show your randoms
silent lantern
lol
limber knotBOT
so which half of the blame am I? 😂
silent lantern
the third
quasi valley
exactly
limber knotBOT
wow my english in on point today
void void
Where did you get that
vestal jasper
Also no matter how many times you say "thanks for the laughs" your arguments / retorts aren't getting stronger.
void void
I don't think I made public where I am on vacation
woven otter
but what if he says that long enough
silent lantern
Thanks for the laughs Devon
vestal jasper
Thanks for the laughs Devon
woven otter
Thanks for the laughs Devon
quasi valley
Thanks for the laughs Devon.
silent lantern
(Useless comment about grammar in that github status)
limber knotBOT
its not that bad
vestal jasper
ah yes thanks discord I like finishing typing a word and then seeing it appear afterwards
very performant
woven otter
make sure to delete your github account for extra security
quasi valley
and turn off your internet for maximumestest security
silent lantern
Mini, hence the comment would be useless
vestal jasper
throw your computer out the window while you're at it
limber knotBOT
now u guys are trolling
void void
Okay
quasi valley
how dare you accuse us of trolling
vestal jasper
wow digger rude
quasi valley
we are serious people trying to have a serious conversation
woven otter
trolling? never heard of it
limber knotBOT
I don't dare you for anything
quasi valley
with a serious guy showing us his serious code
woven otter
*secure code
silent lantern
Lol
limber knotBOT
I dare you to take off your pants ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
olive garden
done
quasi valley
silent lantern
I dare you to take your dare back
limber knotBOT
I dare you to turn on your webcam
olive garden
no, you are the best
vestal jasper
subway
best
Subway is good but not the best
quasi valley
that was sweet
vestal jasper
idk what kind of rating system you're using but
void void
This wrap is the best I've ever had
silent lantern
Mini ew wtf
vestal jasper
Pineapple, Ham, Bacon, Jalapeno is the best pizza honestly.
silent lantern
how can you eat that
void void
The subs at subway I agree are so much worse then milio's
limber knotBOT
pizza, cheese in the border, jalapenos, bacon, salami and champions
vestal jasper
you're missing pineapple in that
silent lantern
how can you put so much shit on your pizza...
DISGUSTANG
void void
Now that it's out there
limber knotBOT
why does somebody go to vacation up there? lol
limber knotBOT
also, lets switch to a more serious topic
void void
Yes I know
limber knotBOT
how do you deal with this? https://irc.minidigger.me/uploads/f9e4b4a0f496461d/image.png
vestal jasper
pet them all
limber knotBOT
one have two hands
woven otter
at first it looked like murder scene
vestal jasper
take turns petting them
woven otter
i'm glad it's actually bunch of cats
void void
Part of the reason I am on vacation is to offload all my stuff onto my relatives to host in return för their own server
peak dirge
Aw, it's a lot of cats! Pet them and give them lots of ❤
limber knotBOT
whats wrong with your o key?
void void
Stupid auto correct
void void
silent lantern
Cats > 🦆
void void
SwiftKey
limber knotBOT
issue is, they are not mine, my best friends mom breeds them, and she is torturing my by sending those pictures
silent lantern
lol
mint sequoia
woven otter
shut up you fat ghost
limber knotBOT
I ditched swiftkey long time ago, but pretty sure that supports multiple languages?
void void
It only wänts me to type in hochdeutsch und nothing else
silent lantern
come at me ugly duck
vestal jasper
so how does a ghost have a hat?
quasi valley
wänts
vestal jasper
do ghosts just selectively have collision?
silent lantern
It's a ghost hat obviously
vestal jasper
if the ghost moves through a wall does the hat go with it?
silent lantern
And yes they do
woven otter
quantum levitation
silent lantern
When I died I had the hat on so it merged with me and became a ghost hat
vestal jasper
can I just hibernate until the 30th
quasi valley
so the hat died, too?
woven otter
RIP hat
void void
How is it only 05:00 it feels like 12:00
vestal jasper
rip hat
silent lantern
the hat was already dead inside
quasi valley
oh :(
silent lantern
@void void Actually it is 12
void void
Not in wisconsin
silent lantern
but your inner german clock is at 12
void void
Ugh my sleep schedule is so out of wack
I guess if that's what you want to call it
I'm about to drink some pop
silent lantern
poop*
celest coyote
Can someone give me the limk to the picture of the uuid random code
silent lantern
celest coyote
I have a friend who is a crypto expert ill show it to him
olive garden
my famous picture ❤
void void
That’s not even the worst thing in the code
silent lantern
@olive garden ❤
olive garden
then what is?
oh, the other link
I didn't really read it, I saw that lambdas aren't being used and the code doesn't fit on my monitor so I closed it
silent lantern
send it
void void
There are no sql calls yet
olive garden
oh
silent lantern
Blocking SQL calls are nice
shrewd portal
what is happening
void void
Laughs
silent lantern
omg
shrewd portal
I see
silent lantern
just the BlockEventHandler class gave me cancer
void void
I've been up for like 4 hours with these guys
Devon you are not the king of the world you need to acccept that you have much to learn
shrewd portal
interesting
void void
Not 16
silent lantern
learning is for noobs
olive garden
you certainly act like it
void void
Also if you think the code is so bad why don't you PR?
silent lantern
@olive garden racist
vestal jasper
It's not their job to fix your code
olive garden
why should I waste my time on that?
void void
Exactly
vestal jasper
They already give you tips on how to improve it
quasi valley
he doesnt want the code to improve but you to learn something mate
void void
Your files a thousand lines long you think I have time for that?
olive garden
I did PR to Slimefun, my IDE replaced all anonymous inner classes with lambdas where possible
it got rejected
lol
vestal jasper
Teach a man to fish etc etc
void void
$.java like what the fuck
shrewd portal
lol
silent lantern
oh that's Devons code
vestal jasper
How does your IDE let you get away with naming a class $
silent lantern
now that explains a lot more
vestal jasper
Do you even use an IDE?
void void
Also stop patching the server jar in your plugin manager
olive garden
lol
void void
That’s a serious violation
olive garden
link please
void void
Search spigot ploader
olive garden
thanks
void void
It was sarcasm, the code works and I am working on fixing a lot of the stuff at the moment especially the looping through the config crap, I was saying if you think it is so bad why not give constructive feedback or PR instead of complaining?
wraith hedge
prplz should bring back kohi
void void
Laughing at how delusional you are is more fun anyway
shrewd portal
ah; but was it c o n s t r u c t i v e feedback?
olive garden
we mentioned a lot of bad stuff, it's your job to fix it
we talked a lot more about the random stuff, because you didn't accept the fact that it's fucked up
void void
That's not constructive feedback, that was just pointing out the issue and saying I shouldn't use randomness för random drops and instead use the same seed för all.
celest coyote
Ah the if my code is bad pr it instead of complaining fallacy
olive garden
in my opinion that's constructive feedback
I learn from my mistakes, so when people point them out, it's good for me
celest coyote
Classic kappa
silent lantern
@void void That class doesn't exist 🤔
vestal jasper
Why would people continue to give feedback, constructive or not, with how you've been acting?
shrewd portal
Devon have you considered pr’ing code to implement your superior methodologies
void void
If you cannot tell from my messages I am being very sarcastic
vestal jasper
Why would someone spend the time or effort if you're just going to laugh at them
void void
now we're the ones who cant spot sarcasm
quasi valley
you're message looks everything but sarcastic
limber knotBOT
but I worked hard on my comedy routine vicarious :(
quasi valley
tux message obviously was, yours isnt 👀
void void
PR into what? My own repo? That's not how that works
olive garden
oh wow
shrewd portal
vestal jasper
silent lantern
that was sarcasm Devon
vestal jasper
clear sarcasm /s
limber knotBOT
it was just a social experiment bro
silent lantern
@shrewd portal lmao
void void
@silent lantern what class
void void
sorry i was taking a poo, i meant on the google
shrewd portal
Devon I apologize for my next remark; but I have never seen more amateurish code undeserving of even the kilobytes of space that it takes
shrewd portal
Out of all the different wastes of space there are; I feel that your code takes one of the highest marks — that is, it’s just that awful
silent lantern
@void void Can you post the snippet? I'm on mobile
void void
Do you mean this kind of PR?
shrewd portal
thanks for the laughs devon
I’m screenshooty this rn
obv
time to send it to all my friends
void void
@silent lantern theres no source, but he uses javaassist to patch stuff into the server jar
limber knotBOT
uff
shrewd portal
haha haha
limber knotBOT
tabs
void void
which obviously is something no-one expects a plugin to do
limber knotBOT
PRing tabs to a spaces repo
shrewd portal
just kidding I’ve been sarcastic all this time
void void
Night you haven't been here more then a couple minutes so I'm just going to ignore your copypastas
silent lantern
@void void Ok, that's not a good idea at all
limber knotBOT
hai night o/
void void
I dönt read sarcasm
limber knotBOT
working on da dyescape stuff
shrewd portal
minidigger: nice
Devon if you don’t read sarcasm why do you expect others to comprehend it
checkmate atheists
void void
crontab isnt something a plugin should touch, nor is the server jar
void void
I dönt
limber knotBOT
old me wrode good debug code 😂
void void
I never said i expected others to understand my sarcasm did I
shrewd portal
so then you’re just antisocial
olive garden
I don't know what was sarcasm, but I will just laugh every time I see your name
silent lantern
@olive garden good
void void
How does any of this relate to being Social
limber knotBOT
that methods is called for every chunk the place receives every tick 😂
so it doesnt matter what I change its awfull
olive garden
if you are antisocial you don't develop that good social skills
to answer your question
I hope I don't have to explain the link between social skills and effective communication
void void
limber knotBOT
I wish mojang would add the account name to the title of the minecraft window
testing with multiple accounts is so painful
void void
MiniDigger forge mod it?
I would be hard pressed to believe that someone my age who is in a cycling group with several others whom I talk to daily and easily communicate with doesn't have good Social skills
can you changethe title at runtime
limber knotBOT
time :/
I wrote a launcher before that added it to the version string you see on the title screen
vestal jasper
Being able to socialize and having good social skills are two different things
shrewd portal
did this dude just pull a “I have friends”
void void
I have a job, I'm in a cycling group, I work as a team för projects, I run a server, and I am actively involved in the community back at Zurich so how am I anti Social
olive garden
I'm pretty sure that was a joke
Devon CasperToday at 12:22 PM
I never said i expected others to understand my sarcasm did I
nightToday at 12:23 PM
so then you’re just antisocial
void void
tell us again how an instance of Random shouldn't be re-used please
silent lantern
You said all of it was sarcasm but none of us even closely thought it was, so are we retarded or do you have a lack of social skills?
void void
i love that one
silent lantern
@void void lmao
void void
Yes because night assumed that with me saying it was sarcasm that I thought everyone else understood it and I never even said that
graceful wyvern
shrewd portal
you literally said you were being sarcastic
silent lantern
@graceful wyvern 🍿
void void
Obviously sarcasm doesn't convey well over text
shrewd portal
lol
silent lantern
it does if you do it correctly
silent lantern
lmao
void void
And I dönt use English in text usually let alone know how to properly portray sarcasm in text
shrewd portal
are you done backtracking yet or do you have more distance to cover
I’m sure if you use a bike you can backtrack further, faster
just a quick tip
silent lantern
lmao
void void
I'm about to pass out, it's 8 hours after I should have been in bed
quasi valley
then go to sleep :p
olive garden
uhm
silent lantern
then sleep and have nightmare dreams of your code
olive garden
pretty sure not sleeping on a night won't make you pass out
void void
Well I can't really now I have to be up in an hour and a half för work
olive garden
but good night
olive garden
luckily for you, that's enough time to finish a sleep cycle if you are lucky
yey, I can totally phrase sentences
silent lantern
yes it is
void void
thanks for the laughs
Yes it is, I didn't bother with the auto correct because I'm too tired
olive garden
cool
silent lantern
thanks for laughs while sitting in a waiting room at a doctor
void void
leave
vestal jasper
yes that was the word
fallen oracle
GOOD MORNING GAMERS
My avewage IQ aftew taking IQ tests fwom an accwedited psychowogist is 134.5 <--- Onwy 2% of the human popuwation scowe that high.
I'm vewy cwose to genius-wevew IQ.
You cawwing me stupid wike someone cawwing Awbewt Einstein stupid.
which makes one of us wook stupid. Hint: Not me
vestal jasper
I have a skeleton of the chat games plugin working btw
void void
@fallen oracle not close enough though
vestal jasper
I mean I don't have auto starting or ending yet
I've worked on it for all of an hour 
vestal jasper
Yeah I've noticed that in the one I use too
Do you want it to alternate between scramble and type or just pick randomly each time
kk
guess auto starting works
void void
boo
thanks debian unattended upgrades
for not starting up postgresql after upgrading it
and killing grafana, dns server and other essential stuff
trail isle
vestal jasper
I don't bring it up often if ever really
I lurk often enough that I can resolve most if not all issues I have with the information given to others, too
lapis sequoia
purged the wrong server this morning oop
so, pewdiepies latest video has a screenshot that i took years ago as the thumbnail
i feel special
proof:
https://www.minecraft-schematics.com/schematic/6630/#
https://gyazo.com/7b03cd21692ef3df1b81574e3f889d50
quasi valley
oh lol
quasi valley
I love how whoever makes his thumbnails just destroys his eyes
lapis sequoia
LOL
quasi valley
your nose is illegally obtained
lapis sequoia
im not UMG 😂
lapis sequoia
its just a screenshot 😂
cedar spade
just saw someone in the Glowstone server ask how you're supposed to compare two materials now that IDs don't exist
quasi valley
glowstone is being worked on more or less actively again isnt it?
cedar spade
ish
Seems like there's a bit more activity now than before
I think they were all just busy for a few months hence the slow progress
void void
hopefully they get atleast 1.13+ support soon
so i can replace the limbo server with glowstone
it's running on paper right now but i expect glowstone to eat less resources
y'know anything based on vanilla is 
right now
cedar spade
just run Glowstone for 1.12 and use a protocol hack on a proxy
Actually I think ProtocolSupport might have had support for Glowstone at one point
but I doubt it works for 1.13+
limber knotBOT
wgy does the name omnivion sound familiar?
cedar spade
Java implementation of a Minecraft server and the Paper API without any Minecraft/CraftBukkit code
MiniDigger:
celest coyote
Worth it though
cedar spade
It's not complete; it doesn't replicate vanilla worldgen and didn't have entity physics/AI last time I checked
quasi valley
time to make a viaversion module for glowstone
quasi valley
celest coyote
Protocol support doesnt work on glowstone
I think there is talk of integrating it right into the api though
cedar spade
did PS not support Glowstone before 1.13?
iirc Glowstone didn't want a protocol compat layer within the server itself
celest coyote
I just read their docs and they said they don't cause it uses NMS
i guess docs are partially outdated
pulsar wigeon
right now? the client hashes the ip and checks a list of hashes retrieved from mojang
jaunty bolt
LeaderHeadsRevamped::Combined Totalcount(451) total(29.94% 11.439s, 59.43% of tick)avg(25.36ms per - 29.71ms/1.17 per tick)
Damn, that revamp sure lags a lot
pulsar wigeon
and refuses to connect to the server if it matches
(which is why it's so easy to bypass, just need a different ip/host)
yea, completely client side
old badge
https://sessionserver.mojang.com/blockedservers the hash list btw
celest coyote
im trying out glowstone rn
entity physics are wack
if you hit em
they go flying
and never stop
until they hit a block, no gravity
might contribute to glowstone a bit
limber knotBOT
They're working on 1.13 at the minute
celest coyote
yeah ill prob only do some entity stuff
they are missing pretty much everything about mobs
well i just sent a cow into space
endermen dont tp on contact with water
they sometimes turn invisible though
jaunty bolt
is performance better on glowstone 
onyx briar
celest coyote
holy shit water flows almost instantly
fringe flint
celest coyote
theres actually a $200 bounty for entity physics https://github.com/GlowstoneMC/Glowstone/issues/501
oh man water physics is gunna be a bitch
the client is going to be predicting where drops are gunna go
and the server will desync
they are working on parallel entity ticking interesting https://github.com/GlowstoneMC/Glowstone/pull/1008
celest coyote
its on 1.12 rn
teal acorn
fallen oracle
Where's the os?
celest coyote
OS?
its not surprising their forums are dead, its not really for prime time
they have a discord as well
umbral wasp
golden gust
So, my mates working on a uni project, and was just wondering if anybody has made their own print filament before? Is there some sane way to figure out needed temps and stuff for the extrusion process, or is it literally just keep playing until it somehow works?
crimson roost
celest coyote
From what i gather, you just tweak shit till it works
Generally slower is better
Finer layers is better
Oh cat didnt know you made it ibto a ltt vid lol
austere ivy
@void void thanks but no. He’s Russian, sure. But he also seems to be smarter than me, younger than me (13) and a lot meaner than me.
He seems really intelligent, making a lot more things than I have. He even has a half decent website, all at the age of 13. So I used to envy him, said I wanted to be like him.
But then I found out he’s an absolute j*rk to everyone around him and the reason he’s gotten banned on just about every Discord relating to Paper or Aikar or the Paper community in general, is because he’s so toxic. He acts like he’s better than everyone else and flaunts it around.
I don’t care if I’m dum or a meme or bait or whatever you want to call me, I wouldn’t trade that for being as intelligent as he is if I have to be as mean as he is. That’s not who I am.
So no he’s not the Russian me.
heady spear
you're not dum or a meme or bait, you're a dumb baity meme
austere ivy
I’ll take it over being a j*rk.
heady spear
I mean yeah you're constantly wrong but you're pretty nice about it
quick gust
I run my server in a screen and my start.sh script also puts it in a screen but if the server is already running in a screen and I run /restart it does not restart opposed to running it normally and restarting it will put it in the screen and restart, why doesn't restart work when it's already in a screen?
austere ivy
The screen being the terminal?
Or do you use the GUI?
If it’s the GUI I’m not sure, I don’t use it. If it’s the terminal, yeah I’ve noticed it too. It’s quite annoying since instead of opening up the terminal for me, I have to do /stop then click start.command (Mac) again.
golden gust
Do not use /restart
austere ivy
However! I do think there’s a solution because you just have to change your start.command to open up in a new terminal window.
Oh
Or that.
fallen oracle
I prefer using plugman to reload my server.
golden gust
It's a system that is broken by design, setup your startup script to auto restart the server with a while loop or something
Can we ban glare?
fallen oracle
NO
austere ivy
Hmm.
golden gust
Wait
fallen oracle
I'm about to become a contributor to the project, that'd be big mean.
austere ivy
He does offer good food pics.
golden gust
Spigot literally just removed the option that made /restart sliiightly more viable
gg
fallen oracle
Legacy page W.I.P ftw.
austere ivy
I say we spare him this one time IN EXCHANGE for more food pics >;D
austere ivy
@quick gust either way if you use Pterodactyl it’ll start if it detects it stops. I think you can install the daemon without the panel but what do I know?
Hey Glare do you like cold brew?
fallen oracle
I like coffee hot or cold.
austere ivy
I never liked hot or iced coffee, too bitter for me. Recently I’ve taken a liking to cold brew because it’s silky smooth. Higher caffeine content too.
digital talon
btw foodpron: https://kinja.com/thisiswhyyourefat/posts
austere ivy
And you can store it in a big jug to use for the week, and to make it you literally pour coffee grinds into the jug.
It’s quite cool! Anyway yes Glare please tag me if you post any pictures of meat or steak or whatever. Gives me inspiration on what to cook for my family the next day ;p
fallen oracle
Lol okay
Don't really have cold brew laying around so most of my coffee comes from the Kuerig.
quick gust
tehbrian i dont think you know what screen is lol
yeah i guess the restart command is flawed and ill just make a bash loop if the mc process doesnt exist make it lmao
golden gust
the /restart stuff won't work for jvm crashes, also, it tries to start another server process while one is still running, can cause the new instance to fail to start due to the port being in use potentially
fallen oracle
Is entities disappearing when you dismount something still a bug or did we fix that?
Hmm, gotta figure out what changed upstream too. Looks like 5 new builds out.
scarlet thistle
fallen oracle
AAlrighty
hoary salmon
void void
normal eagle
halcyon fractal
fallen oracle
Welcome
austere ivy
Barty, no.
silk rover
gloomy jacinth
peak dirge
@spare venture Technically, Bulgarian
boreal bone
cedar spade
Only technically
void void
kek
Just watched a video where this girl is proposing to her fiance and the fiance goes NO! AHHH! and pulls out another ring bc the fiance was gonna propose too
fallen oracle
happens a lot
void void
tbh i remember one NL dude was so annoying with his ignorance, called me russian all the time because estonia is so small next to it 😒
"ok russian"
unreal quarry
finally got my bike back from the shop! \o/
so excite
^_^
was riding around for a bit, but this brought it to a stop lol
haughty cave
void void
Hi
slate violet
Well, come stop by the midwest! Weather people are idiots, and it storms when there is a 0% chance 😄
vast violet
cyan field
boreal bone
@void void I read up there, you're better off using a singular random
like a single, cached SecureRandom instance would do the same thing
void void
Aight
boreal bone
👍
void void
hes still fucking here
boreal bone
how he is RPing to be german is kind of funny, considering I worked for germans for about a year
and none of them type with the double dot o instead of an o.
in english
limber knotBOT
yöu mean nöt all germans type önline like this?! Ö:
unkempt quail
void void
so hes not actually a german is what you guys are saying
boreal bone
I'm saying he's a time traveler from 1939 that is learning to type english
void void
winter sundial
How do you even live with reading Fahrenheit
limber knotBOT
then you subtract 32 and multiply by 5/9
then you have a proper unit one can understand
static badge
mfw
golden gust
sounds like a lotta dum work to just read a number
limber knotBOT
.wa (97-32)*(5/9)
golden gust
r u sur ur not compensatin?
limber knotBOT
(MiniDigger) Exact result: 325/9 - Decimal approximation: 36.11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111... - https://is.gd/QspTZD
celest coyote
gotta have dem 111s
static badge
wow that's
limber knotBOT
static badge
one too many 1's
surreal stump
austere ivy
.ask
limber knotBOT
If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.
austere ivy
Also I’m half decent with plugins but you are currently in a Discord where 50% are plugin devs, 50% make the software the plugins run on, 25% are intelligent, and 1% has the name Brian and is bad with percentages.
Ask away.
worn ember
i'd be part of that 25% for sure 👀
im very smart
my big brain is probably 15% of that 25%
quick gust
we need an 80 iq channel
static badge
we have one
void void
10$ that your big brain mostly consists of air or water, but not brain matter
marsh turret
So the issue i have is
so i have this crate plugin that gives me keys for the crate
however i have the shopguiplus+ plugin
but i want to add the key for the crate into the shop
but im really confused on how to
http://prntscr.com/oqortz here's what the key looks like
so..? 😄
So simply
I just want this key into my shop
however i'm unable to find out how to do so
void void
worn ember
the same way you add any other items?
void void
ey ciao @cold bane :)
cold bane
@void void ciao! Are you italian? 😃
void void
Not exactly, I'm originally not italian but I live in italy since I was 9, so maybe I count as one 🤣 @cold bane
fallen oracle
Ya'll see this Boycott against Walmart?
cold bane
@void void yeah i think so xD
prime fractal
worn ember
its just you