I wonder if there is some level of chance of what's going on there, tbh
#general
golden gust
But, only way I could see that throwing an issue is something messing with chunks improperly or entities improperly
Given the entire state of 1.14 and plugins in general, this gets fun \o/
worn ember
@acoustic pilot i have an infestation in one of the caves on the map and the raiders love going for them instead lmao, which is a good thing in the end lul
grave dust
dapper nacelle
one day
frigid scroll
void void
I mean, it didn't just happen. It's been out for quite a few hours
dapper nacelle
it isn't unusual to take a couple of days from what I've seen so far
lavish laurel
ocean ether
tropic flame
oh nice, AWE's git repo leaves out the module it uses to compile the project 👏
what's the matter of having this
if then you use a non-existant module
void void
I don't understand the question
limber knotBOT
[RockyTV] is the 1.14.4 build working? I mean, there weren't any breaking changes from mojang that could break plugins, right?
peak dirge
There was an NMS bump, so your plugins could break
limber knotBOT
[RockyTV] NMS?
ancient bolt
The internal system that plugins don't directly rely on, but some do and may break when it gets updated
worn ember
Paper: fixes issues
Mojang: takes fixes from paper
Mojang: We made some improvements
Also Mojang: Proceeds to break the game more
@unreal quarry you have a public server lol?
eager glen
oak kettle
hey, have a sort of a general question, anyone remember how far the map generates from the character? looking to do some careful trimming of the maps of explored areas. and is this the same distance in the nether?
oh wait its 10 i think on either side
hushed hearth
worn ember
I think it's based on the view distance of your server
oak kettle
chunks that is.
I dont remember ever changing that detail, but thanks ill go check my configs.
oak kettle
default appears to be 21 so 10 on either side of the active chunk.
and looks like i never changed it. time to trim!
noo not trimming body parts barty 😛
golden gust
that sounds like an incognito mode website
worn ember
lmao
@spare venture i started in commitment mode and i already regret it so i alt+f4 when shit goes wrong
reverting back to the latest auto save haha
im such a pussy
i mean
it kinda sucks when your colonist takes a shot to the face and just dies
yeah infections are a bitch lol
you can amputee their limbs though to save them
is that even a word?
close enough
infestations are the worst tho
they really fuck you up
quick gust
if plugins rely on nms you think the big servers write mappers or w.e its called to automatically deob the latest release and work
like video game hackers do
quick gust
does hypixel run its own custom jar or something
worn ember
i wish you could play rimworld mp nativly though
quick gust
is that why they can support like every version
worn ember
yeah i guess not
lol
its funny how dj's always turning buttons on their deck and then turn them back 😉
just to look cool ig
yeah
golden gust
Oh god
golden gust
I actually had gross ideas on how to handle multiple versions on a server nativily without rewriting stuff persistently
worn ember
@golden gust stop updating?
golden gust
(few dozen months ago), that woulda been hell
worn ember
that usually works
golden gust
More how to handle proper multi-version support
(by rewriting stuff I meant more along the lines of what Via and other plugins do)
wide chasm
Don't send packets - multi-version support done; push to master.
worn ember
@spare venture i think it has multiple colonies in one world
like you have your own colonies that can interact kinda
golden gust
1.14+ makes that even more fun as they make the version gap even worse
worn ember
Ima just not bother with mc for a while tbh
till everything settles down again
aye almost Lost Frequencies uwu
idk why he's not on the main stage though
unreal quarry
why ping me, @worn ember :3
quick gust
if i wanted to make a parkour minigames server, what is the best way of supporting as many versions as possible? Updating to 1.14 and installing some plugin that allows older versions?
unreal quarry
i do
golden gust
"owner" vs "good owner" is probs the diff there
worn ember
oof
quick gust
also idk if u guys know this but electroniccat is actually the top dog of this discord from what ive observed since joining
unreal quarry
^_^
golden gust
Literally ignoring me up in a tree 😦
golden gust
% is slowly increasing
worn ember
how many still run bukkit?
unreal quarry
20% is huge compared to 3% a year ago
worn ember
paper ships with bstats right?
golden gust
Well, yes
wide chasm
14.9% of everyone who uses Spigot uses Bukkit https://bstats.org/global/bukkit (that's a weird sentence I know)
golden gust
But we have nothing to reference that against
(and that global page is fucked, basically)
worn ember
minecraft is on the rise again
wide chasm
Paper on global and on separate page, great /s
worn ember
so nows its time to shine
golden gust
unreal quarry
i got a whole 3 server running purpur ^_^ https://bstats.org/plugin/server-implementation/Purpur
golden gust
Issue is that the server-impl and the bukkit stuff are sepearted
worn ember
dafuq is purpur xD
golden gust
So, until the day that spigot supports bstats (THey won't), we're somewhat snookered for info
wide chasm
I assume purpur is a paper fork.
unreal quarry
purpur is a fork of a fork of a fork of a fork of a popular game
aka, i forked paper
worn ember
spork
wide chasm
That would be, what, layer 7 or something?
unreal quarry
idk i lost count
worn ember
hmm
wide chasm
NMS - CraftBukkit - Bukkit - Spigot - Paper - Purpur, 6 then.
unreal quarry
my biggest competitor is concrete
wide chasm
Could add the client as layer 1, but let's not do that.
worn ember
trust me i know
golden gust
Guys, I just spotted something on the global page
worn ember
spotted leaf?
wide chasm
Is it TacoSpigot?
tardy lynx
arm :D
tardy lynx
raspberry pi
worn ember
bruh
limber knotBOT
[RockyTV] > arent those microcontrollers
[RockyTV] lots of arm chips run linux
[RockyTV] see your phone, for example, it has an arm SoC and it runs Android and the linux kernel; most SBCs have ARM chips that run linux as well
tardy lynx
raspberry pi actually runs paper 1.12 pretty well
tardy lynx
running a minecraft server on an apple pencil
limber knotBOT
[RockyTV] I bet if a server running on a raspi runs better than a 10 year old atom CPU netbook
worn ember
i mean, pi's have decent specs
tardy lynx
maybe 256
worn ember
i feel bad for this microcontroller
it hasnt left its box in years
cba to program in C
and mounting to it is a royal pain in the ass
OVH owns a domain i want but they dont have it for sale 
jagged egret
hello my frens
true canyon
does OVH actually own it, or does something have it registered through OVH and they're protecting the info
worn ember
well it says its registered at ovh
jagged egret
does anyone know how ProtocolLib is able to intercept and modify packets on the main thread
true canyon
What's the WHOIS say?
jagged egret
why is it french
limber knotBOT
[RockyTV] seems like someone registered that domain to a site builder in ovh
worn ember
yeah no thanks
not gonna pay 2.4k for a domain lul
for it to not be 2.4k?
its not even for sale tho
worn ember
i dont think it was
true canyon
lolwut
jagged egret
I mean it makes no sense for it not to be
true canyon
It costs Google the same to renew google.com as it costs anyone to renew a .com. There aren't premium prices for .com domains.
worn ember
it makes no sense to sell their domain either way lmfao
yes it does
yeah but its not for sale
that was a different similar domain
https://youtu.be/H2UisKqPwgE this is an event me and my dad did the light and sound for 😃 the after movie is pretty lit for such a small event lol
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Aftermovie Bocage Beach 2019 - length 3m 9s - 6 likes, 0 dislikes (100.0%) - 577 views - Capture Photography on 2019.07.07
worn ember
weird flex and all but it was probably the biggest event we did so far
primal garden
pseudo island
Someone once bought Google.com for research purposes
They found a bug in Google Domains 😂
obsidian belfry
limber knotBOT
q
tropic elk
outer pagoda
cosmic raft
Star Trek: Picard trailer: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8806524/videoplayer/vi308526105?ref_=tt_ov_vi
hot niche
cosmic raft
it did not
golden gust
See, I wanna hold out hope for picard
But, it concerns me that it's literally just a cash grab for all involved based on nostaligia instead of actually tryna provide a good show
digital talon
Where is the good old Spock? :/
worn ember
@golden gust sounds like every Disney remake
limber knotBOT
aaa
worn ember
bbb
fallen oracle
Hola gamers
quasi valley
whats poppin
fallen oracle
Just saw a movie
quasi valley
I did, too 🦆
clear portal
is there a datapack or something that makes pigmen hostile by default
worn ember
@golden gust you might wanna specify that they can use ctrl+f5 to force cache to reload as well 😉 in #announcements
limber knotBOT
That's OS specific
limber knotBOT
ctrl-f5 literally does jack all in macOS :P
worn ember
thats your own fault though
clear portal
yes? i can guarantee you that doesn't work on my linux install because i never set that keybind
it's very OS specific
worn ember
i thought that was just a browser shortcut? wtf
limber knotBOT
I'd rather just link to a coverall page and you can either pull it from memory or figure out what's relevant to your OS/browser
it is a browser shortcut
and, well
standardisation lol
worn ember
win+L is nice too
fallen oracle
So is ALT + F4
worn ember
so i have DDR4 that runs on 3600MHz turned out was running on 2100 all this time lol
wasted potential
fallen oracle
Yeah but it's it really that much of a difference?
fallen oracle
Exactly
upper flicker
glances at his overclocked ddr3 running at 1900
worn ember
also when i put it on "Extreme mode" in my bios, my pc doesnt even boot anymore lol
fallen oracle
All I use my PC for is school and IJ anyways
worn ember
nice feature
fallen oracle
At least you can access your BIOS
upper flicker
Its trying to keep you from getting addicted
austere ivy
Hmm
upper flicker
extreme anti-addiction behavior
worn ember
addicted from what?
austere ivy
Is it time for me to show my comp specs?
worn ember
almost
fallen oracle
You only have 4GB of RAM on your PC?
worn ember
speccy is shite lmao
fallen oracle
My phone has more RAM than that 😂
fallen oracle
worn ember
very nice when doing virtualization in my classes
fallen oracle
Gotta start my speech on endangered wildlife today smh
worn ember
take IRC users
fallen oracle
Idk if I can talk about penguins for 6 minutes
fallen oracle
I planned to talk about laws that are being removed that allow more hunting to be done
austere ivy
I looked on eBay and I found a 2015 one for 300 bucks, might go for that.
austere ivy
Do you know who Tipa is?
fallen oracle
I'm still salty about the dude who did the speech on apple vs Android
austere ivy
He messaged me saying that he’s a well known developer for spigot and he’d like to dev for my server.
:thonk;
:thon:
fallen oracle
Never heard of him
upper flicker
👋
fallen oracle
Has anyone else listened to Ed Sheeran new album?
fallen oracle
You mean internal?
golden gust
10.x is a private network block is what he's saying
upper flicker
might not hurt to send GH support a message about that
static badge
fallen oracle
Ahh
ancient bolt
Does anyone else's security log have anything like that in it any chance?
upper flicker
mine does not
ancient bolt
alright, sending a support request now then
static badge
mine does not
fallen oracle
Mines empty
tropic flame
@austere ivy I got some glorious 2gb ram
shy nova
I'm doin it, making a plugin repository because spigotmc.org fucking sucks
strange bane
I wasn't expecting to, but after forcing myself to use macOS, it's actually kinda good. Magnet really changes everything and it's a lot less buggy than when I used it previously.
I've only ran into two bugs so far.
...and I love that I already know how to use the terminal more so than Windows because it's unix! \ o /
worn ember
who owns 10.x ?
strange bane
10.x?
worn ember
maybe im being rarted again
worn ember
by who tho
quick gust
internet police
i mean
from a technical standpoint
nothing is stopping networks around the world from communicating using these ips
but none actually do in practice
pulsar wigeon
IANA are the one who says it's a reserved block, if that's the question
pulsar wigeon
but it's not owned by them, per se
worn ember
i really shouldve paid more attention in my networking classes
cuz i'm really confused lol
quick gust
whats confusing
worn ember
so you're saying the ip originated from github itself?
quick gust
just how if you type ipconfig on your pc youll see an internal 198. or something ip but that isnt what you reach the internet with
shy nova
10.0.0.0/8 IPs will never travel over the internet, they're used for internal shit
worn ember
right
quick gust
the problem there is probably a misconfiguration with his hosts network
strange bane
Those are GitHub logs. ^^
quick gust
oh what
githubs spitting out internal ips?
only thing i can think of there is theyre reading an http header like x-forwarded or something but you wouldnt expect them to
strange bane
It's the security log of successful and attempted logins.
worn ember
^
strange bane
I'm really interested to see their explanation.
worn ember
inb4 "idk"
crude frigate
lime sandal
Welcome Maaemo
strange bane
I like how at the bottom it says "Developer settings" aren't they all developer settings? 😛
tardy lynx
Settings for the development of the developer settings
worn ember
Yes
lime sandal
yaml
shy nova
yAmL
tardy lynx
rip me
lime sandal
i don't like yaml that much
shy nova
eh it's quite nice imo, and everything mc related seems to use it so 🤷
lime sandal
json is better
shy nova
^
lime sandal
Json is less stupid
worn ember
but its easier to use
lime sandal
no
worn ember
its a tradeoff you make
lime sandal
yaml is 10x harder to use
strange bane
TOML > YAML for configurations.
golden gust
toml is ew
worn ember
PHP > YML kappa
golden gust
mfw literally just fancy ini files
lime sandal
yaml is worse then python with indentation
golden gust
hocon looks interesting
shy nova
jsonnet best config
worn ember
if you have proper editor you dont even need to worry about spacing
strange bane
YAML, JSON and TOML are fully interchangable.
lime sandal
if you have proper editor json is easier
and you don't ever have to wrory about spacing
lime sandal
JSON > TOML > YAML
strange bane
JSON loses points for not supporting comments.
Comments are kinda important for configurations.
worn ember
bytecode > C > C++ > C# > Q# > Java
lime sandal
You can add unused strings for comments
strange bane
...
worn ember
lmfao
lime sandal
or just have self explanatory names
worn ember
just add a txt file with the comments kappa
zealous prism
does anyone know of a plugin that displays your own npc, like your own skin. And it looks diffrend for everyone
quick gust
Silicoin transistor > Logic Gate > bytecode > C > C++ > C# > Q# > Java
strange bane
Use a YAML file for the comments and JSON for the data.
worn ember
silicoin
quick gust
ur not a real man unless u solder the config together urself
lime sandal
want to invest?
golden gust
points to hocon again
ancient bolt
if you misconfigure your router to point 10.x IPs to 0.0.0.0 then it will immediately be null routed as soon as it leaves your network
quick gust
all my what
lime sandal
that seems suspiciously specific
worn ember
why would you do that though
quick gust
yeah like what lmfao where did that come from
ancient bolt
I'm referring to @quick gust's statement earlier that there's nothing stopping 10.x IPs from being used to transfer data across the internet
but in reality there is a lot
worn ember
well in reality you dont get to choose your ip lol
quick gust
you can do it
worn ember
if you got a shitload of money
strange bane
quick gust
nah an ASN will run u like $1k from arin and an IP block a few hundred i think
worn ember
lol
ancient bolt
you'd have to own every router between point A and B
worn ember
thats a DNS service
upper flicker
wtf did discord do to the status icons on profile cards
lime sandal
yes
lime sandal
but if i give them a trillion dollars, do you think they wont sell me it?
strange bane
Explain Z.
strange bane
Oh, they're bigger and animated now.
upper flicker
quick gust
this one guy owns a bootleg hosting company and bgp hijacked 1.3.3.0/24 from some china isp for literally like 2 years and had 1.3.3.7
ancient bolt
the second you leave your internal network literally 0 routers wil lbe configured to handle 10.x as an external IP
strange bane
I'm not sure they needed to add shapes in, the colours were obvious enough.
quick gust
demon i said in practice it wont happen yes
but if they wanted to configure it they could very easily
and it would
strange bane
Oh, it might be accessibility.
worn ember
color blind people bruh
strange bane
Colour blind doesn't mean they can't see colour.
worn ember
doesnt take much to break the internet tbh
quick gust
not if they NAT your 10. ip to one of their externals that the greater internet will recognize or if everyone else chose to ignore iana standards and route reserved ranges
tardy lynx
what about robots with greyscale vision
lime sandal
just one regex rule
worn ember
"the greater internet" lul
quick gust
i dont know why ur arguing the technicality of it lol
strange bane
Cloudflare have the power to break a lot of the internet.
quick gust
only like 5%
strange bane
Weight the % based on traffic.
lime sandal
enough to disturb my reading
worn ember
lets ddos cloudflare with cloudflare
strange bane
Not by total sites.
lime sandal
when i saw 50X cloudflare, i knew somebody fucked up
strange bane
If Google went down, a lot of money would be lost and a lot of people inconvinienced. 😛
lime sandal
yes
strange bane
the main site, not their additional services
ancient bolt
@cosmic raft well I'm officially getting off the RSA train :p https://github.com/DemonWav.keys
quick gust
just wait till theres a nasty solar flare that nobodys ready for
ancient bolt
it's the future now
lime sandal
i wouldn't be too annoyed if just google.com died
upper flicker
I'd be annoyed if youtube went down
strange bane
Oh wait. 😛
upper flicker
Google still pretty much foots the entire bill for youtube
worn ember
if only there was a good alternative
upper flicker
that shit isnt profitable after all these years
lime sandal
what is this?
upper flicker
an ssh public key
lime sandal
ok
limber knotBOT
hehe DemonWav
worn ember
scammed
lime sandal
was confused why i could see them
strange bane
YouTube is worth a lot and makes nothing.
worn ember
i mean, maybe put more ads before every single video
lime sandal
youtube doesn't make nothing
ancient bolt
oh shit @lime sandal that's my password
lime sandal
yes
upper flicker
hunter2
worn ember
wtf dont share my password you shitstain
strange bane
Google could prevent Adblock, but they don't anywhere.
Except from the chrome store.
lime sandal
sure it is
worn ember
they plan to
lime sandal
What if you use firefox?
strange bane
Well, they can't do that.
lime sandal
^
strange bane
Chromium is open source, you just remove the bit that says "No adblockers"
lime sandal
chromium is open source
like microsoft have already said they wont stop it i think
and they're switching to chromium
If spigot could stop paper from forking it, don't you think they would?
strange bane
Did Google ever even say they were preventing it?
lime sandal
Yes
strange bane
I thought they just introduced a new API that freaked everyone out.
lime sandal
Well
They were gonna make some new rules
that stops it
and they wanna stop tampermonkey
worn ember
well if chromium dictates the market they can still do as they please, open source or not
lime sandal
how?
mild ibex
lime sandal
How can they prevent people from removing that part?
worn ember
if you going to change the entierty of chromium you might aswel make your own lol
lime sandal
you wouldn't need to change the entirety
strange bane
I would like to know what would happen if Google made YouTube only support Google Chrome.
Boycott, would people switch?
worn ember
^
strange bane
Well, Google could make that extremely hard.
lime sandal
well, people are very good at tricking things
strange bane
"This user hasn't logged into Chrome and are on YouTube"
worn ember
they already made it load slower on firefox at some point
they got called out for it and removed it
strange bane
I think they were using a deprecated API.
One that Firefox had removed or lessened support for.
lime sandal
Imagine the firestorm they'd get if even mentioned restricting it to chrome
strange bane
You could make your own YouTube client. 😛
worn ember
theres no reason to restrict yt to chrome though
if anything it lessens your audience
lime sandal
^
quick gust
tbh if your running the closed source chrome unless your reversing and hacking it they could put in some code to fingerprint chrome users
lime sandal
And it opens the gates for an alternative
ancient bolt
hosting video is unbelievably expensive and difficult
worn ember
i mean, you can already idenfity what browser you use, its passed in the headers
lime sandal
^
ancient bolt
netflix has a montly subscription fee and still hardly makes a profit (I think they are still negative actually?)
lime sandal
Well, if they prevented chromium and allowed chrome people would ask why
ancient bolt
basically 0 other companies could actually keep youtube up and running
strange bane
Netflix pays their developers so, so much.
ancient bolt
So does google
worn ember
Micro$oft could but they'd just fuck it up
strange bane
Double Google.
lime sandal
apple could probably too
quick gust
im talking about an actual chrome browser fingerprint, not a modifiable http header
worn ember
they'd make it apple exclusive for sure
ancient bolt
apple could from a money side of things but that's not their business
upper flicker
traditionally apple has not done super well in the whole web platform business
theyve got enough money they could just buy that talent if they really wanted it
strange bane
(Apple Maps)
ancient bolt
apple actually pays dumptruck loads of money for AWS services
worn ember
throw more stands for 999 at it
lime sandal
amazon could probably run it
ancient bolt
aka they don't have the infrastructure themselves
upper flicker
they actually are dumping lots of money into maps at the moment
worn ember
amazon lul
ancient bolt
amazon mostly runs netflix
ancient bolt
10 year head-start helps
worn ember
did you know, all maps in china are wrong?
lime sandal
I did
Well
I know what you're refering too
but not all maps are wrong
if google does open the gate for other services some big company might take advantage of that
worn ember
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Why Every Map of China is Just Slightly Wrong - length 5m 42s - 44,409 likes, 1,083 dislikes (97.6%) - 1,506,917 views - Half as Interesting on 2019.03.28
upper flicker
well considering the movement of the earth's plates shifting things around subtly every year, most maps in existence probably are wrong yes
thats before you even get into projections and data manipulation and blah blah
ancient bolt
google maps shows different borders to different people based on location
because not everyone agrees where borders are
worn ember
Yeah but thats not what this is about
lime sandal
slight offset
ancient bolt
Oh didn't know you owned this conversation sorry
upper flicker
girls youre both pretty
ancient bolt
fuck you you're not my real dad
upper flicker
yeah Im actually here
static badge
upper flicker
strange bane
That China thing is one of the stupidest things I've heard of.
lime sandal
lol
strange bane
Also, that's very interesting DemonWav.
worn ember
politics suck
lime sandal
^
worn ember
well from a company standpoint
lime sandal
yes?
strange bane
Does anyone use Magnet?
strange bane
🙄
woven otter
ur home go drunk
strange bane
lime sandal
aha
strange bane
It adds Windows, or rather every OS but macOS style window management to macOS but Mission Control makes it annoying to use.
If I disable "Displays have separate spaces" the mission control issue (of activating when I drag a window to the top of the screen) is fixed.
lime sandal
It adds windows to mac os?
strange bane
However, I then don't have the menu bar on my second monitor.
upper flicker
I use it, havent had any issues with mission control or anything
golden gust
Hold the "maximize window" button
upper flicker
then again I never use mission control
lime sandal
lol
strange bane
When you drag your window up does it not trigger mission control?
upper flicker
no
strange bane
upper flicker
might double check your sysprefs to make sure there isnt some weird thing enabled somewhere
strange bane
Do you have "Displays have seperate spaces" off?
golden gust
(Doesn't work for apps which do their own window rendering, but for sane apps, macOS already has spitting to both sides covered), for those extra arrangements however, nope
strange bane
The splitting is macOS kinda sucks though, it's full screen.
upper flicker
sometimes I prefer that and sometimes I wish it wouldnt
I like that its there and Im glad magnet is there to give me the other
strange bane
I'm super grateful for Magnet one for it being so cheap and two for it being implemented so well.
I'd say it's almost better than Windows' built in management. I really like the shortcuts.
finite wave
I’m bored
upper flicker
oh I see what youre saying
dont fling it so hard against the top of the screen I guess
I have to kinda try to make it trigger mission control
golden gust
I go between like a "13 and a 27", so it's either too large for me to split apps into half, or for my laptop I don't really have the screen to split up much more
strange bane
Hmm, yeah I'm sure I'll get used to how hard I should be doing it eventually.
upper flicker
huh I never knew you could just chuck windows at the top to trigger that
ancient bolt
strange bane
It transitions so well.
Some things in macOS feel so polished. Also, how is the blur so fast?!
ancient bolt
hardware optimization
lime sandal
when you know exactly what hardware your software will run on you can optimize it quite a bit
strange bane
For some reason, on macOS I can't change my audio over HDMI volume, but on bootcamped Windows I can.
lime sandal
same
static badge
there are cases to use logging :>
lime sandal
lol
strange bane
The debugging tools couldn't be more easy to access or use, but I still console.log. 😛
(In JavaScript)
dapper nacelle
Bukkit.broadcastMessage() is the way 2 go for me
lime sandal
lol
strange bane
Is that the method that can't be called async?
static badge
it has issues
dapper nacelle
As long as it can print text directly I don't mind
tawdry coyote
System.out.println is my classic favorite
strange bane
soutv
worn ember
shortcut 👀
quick gust
is it a bad idea to be calling Bukkit.getPlayer inside a scheduled task
strange bane
No.
worn ember
i dont see why it would be?
tawdry coyote
Not if it's running synchronously
quick gust
idk i saw the thing about using bukkit functions in it or something i dont really know what it means
finite wave
Yes getPlayer is deprecated and should not be used /s
strange bane
Bukkit style deprecation when you leave it and don't provide an alternative. 😛
tawdry coyote
Last time I checked Bukkit.getPlayer(UUID) was fine and only Bukkit.getPlayer(string) was deprecated.
quick gust
intellij doesnt say getplayer string is but it is in italics idk what that means
strange bane
He's trolling, they're both fine.
quick gust
y is it in italics
quick gust
strange bane
It's nothing.
quick gust
Deprecated. Use getPlayer(UUID) as player names are no longer guaranteed to be unique
whattt
shy nova
"player names are no longer guaranteed to be unique" oh my god why
quick gust
no matter what i dont think 2 players with the same name can be online at once right so it shouldnt matter
unless its for persistance
finite wave
That’s not the thing it refers to though
quick gust
how
graceful wyvern
And it breaks vanilla expectation as well
limber knotBOT
[RockyTV] is there somewhere I can find what each entry in paper.yml means? the docs page is outdated
strange bane
finite wave
Not a lot is needed to break Vanilla
strange bane
It's not deprecated. 😛
quick gust
difference between Bukkit. and Server. ?
strange bane
Paper > Spigot
finite wave
True
worn ember
pretty sure its been deprecated for years now
strange bane
I don't support Spigot anyway, it doesn't make any sense to deprecate it.
How else do you get an online player from a string?
I mean like a command.
./tp <username>
worn ember
magic
strange bane
Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers().stream().findFirst(p -> p.getName().equals(username))? lol
shy nova
sounds like a whale giving birth to a tractor
What the fuck, paths on windows are limited to 260 chars
what the fuck
graceful wyvern
windows
fallen jungle
Why would your path be longer than that? 🤔
shy nova
valid reasons>
strange bane
Which kind of path?
static badge
file
strange bane
Environment variable, environment variable item or a directory path?
Oh..
Is that a limitation of NTFS?
static badge
I think it can be bypassed
graceful wyvern
Yeh I can’t remember if it’s NTFS or just windows, but either way
windows
strange bane
I wonder how much longer they'll stick to NTFS, them doing a APFS-style switch would be so expensive.
Apple had problems doing the conversion, imagine Microsoft with its infinite array of devices?
They can't even get updates to work properly across them (not that I'm saying that's easy).
limber knotBOT
[RockyTV] what is this "count-all-mobs-for-spawning" setting?
static badge
mana is for plebians from esper
strange bane
It's a bot that basis wiki articles on crowdsourced responses.
shy nova
heh
finite wave
@strange bane getPlayer is a partial search too
strange bane
getPlayerExact seems to be deprecated too.
finite wave
Also, getOnlinePlayers returns an array in ancient versions
finite wave
Idk
strange bane
No, probably 1.7.
finite wave
Couldn’t care less
strange bane
I remember sucking so hard at Java and being confused to how I would now use the method.
Those were the days.
(For the record, I still suck at Java, just less so ;))
worn ember
sounds like me
strange bane
Minecraft is the only reason I know Java, but I don't actually use Java outside of Minecraft. I mean, I did for a while but now I do everything in Node.
ancient bolt
god I hate how spigot's build system is setup
when the fuck are y'all gonna finish paperweight and move off this pile of shit?
static badge
yeah that dude doing paperweight needs to pull his fuckin weight
ancient bolt
having to deal with this again now that I'm workong on this shit has given me new motivation to work on it lmao
limber knotBOT
[RockyTV] is it normal for 4 pistons to cause like 30 chunk updates when they are active?
ancient bolt
I mean spigot in general, which paper does too
shit like pulling in minecraft_server jar as a dep to fill in all the holes
strange bane
Chunk updates?!
static badge
yeah that one is remarkably annoying
ancient bolt
paperweight will obviously not do that
static badge
intellij can't do find usages with it like that 
limber knotBOT
[RockyTV] james: yeah I made an afk cobble generator and then whenever the cobble row is mined it triggers a bunch of chunk updates
limber knotBOT
[RockyTV] I'm finding it weird that I join other servers with a bunch of item/mob farms that look like they have a bunch of updates happening in real time but when I do them on my paper server they lag a bit
strange bane
Is there any WordPress theme developers here?
limber knotBOT
[RockyTV] for example I have made this farm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwsb2A5yUAU and looking at it drops my fps from 400 to 160 or so
(Mana) Minecraft 1.14 Fully Automatic Sheep Farm [Easy Tutorial] - length 5m 56s - 5,041 likes, 104 dislikes (98.0%) - 177,141 views - xisumavoid on 2018.11.02
golden gust
FPS is client sided, the server doesn't really control that all too much
quiet nexus
golden gust
and rendering in mc is so funky, something such as leaves can cause major issues in some cases but not others
static badge
wtf
strange bane
Is zero tick farms still a thing? I've been busy and haven't really kept up with MC.
Oh. Surprised.
golden gust
zero tick is a fundimental issue with the game
ionic gazelle
strange bane
.ts is an audio extension too iirc
limber knotBOT
[RockyTV] electroniccat: yeah I noticed, fastleafdecay lags a bit
strange bane
Well it's not like he can see 160 frames anyway.
outer patio
Since when did plugin developers start making discord groups
I swear this wasn’t a thing 2 years ago
Or even 1 year ago
golden gust
People where already dragged to discord by their buds, and so, why not have all the chats in one place
Given that the only real alternatives are skype groups and irc (<3), I can kinda see why everybody flocked to discord 🤷
ancient bolt
discord is quite good for communities
upper flicker
recruiting from within lets you use their past behavior to judge them
ancient bolt
recruit from your player base but don't offer applications or otherwise ever publicly say you're looking
upper flicker
going outside in MC world is pretty bonkers
ancient bolt
privately talk to the people you think woudl be good
upper flicker
not like internet moderators have CVs
ancient bolt
basically ignore anyone that asks for a position
upper flicker
^^
static badge
can i have op pls am good
fallen oracle
That dude Brian was talking about earlier is spamming everyone apparently
hot gorge
I'll admin for you Barty
fallen oracle
So like, 13+?
worn ember
Pick me pick me
I want free rank plz
I'm an adult for the law but a kid at heart. I'd be perfect
In all honesty I'm looking for shit to do
Too lazy to program and bored of my games cx
And to contrary belief I'm not actually retarded. (That's what the doctor said)
golden gust
That's because they're not allowed to say that legally
worn ember
:( why you gotta do me like this
golden gust
You laid it out on the table!
When you make it that easy it's literally asking for it
limber knotBOT
golden gust
I mean, I'm a brit, we're either insulting ourselves or others
hot gorge
I'm American, so automatically crass, stupid and uncultured
worn ember
Lmao
static badge
interesting always though brit was just retarded
worn ember
Insulting while sipping tea
@static badge if I put you out of the sunlight will you die?
static badge
no
upper flicker
cancer
worn ember
Oh
golden gust
it's the flangie
austere ivy
Barty what about me?
strange bane
Anyone know how to use live template functions?
worn ember
I get my first paycheck on Tuesday 👀
lyric ice
Does anyone have a plugin that will stop players from moving(like falling) until players give a specific input? On my server, people who log off in the nether will fall through the world before they finish loading. A plugin like this would stop players from loosing all of their stuff if the server crashed when they try to exit the nether.
fallen oracle
Use Skript
On player move
Don't
golden gust
and then 1.14
lyric ice
i am running on a raspberry pi
worn ember
That explains a lot
strange bane
Where do you work Dark?
worn ember
Lower your render distance
golden gust
From what I recall, there was apparently an odd issue around how chunks load with teleportation
strange bane
Oh, so not a development job?
worn ember
Nah
It's a temp thing
Just need some $$$
Gotta pay for college and actually not be broke for once
strange bane
I just got a new job the other day, very exciting but it's WordPress theme development. 😛
I had only made one theme before the interview.
worn ember
Since making money off plugins isn't really my thing
Oh god
Stay far away from that
azure estuary
golden gust
is rly gud
worn ember
I thought you were being serious
strange bane
Well, they don't require me to use WordPress, but they all do.
They're super cool people, buying me a PhpStorm license on top of all Adobe products.
tawdry coyote
@spare venture I mean Idk if you're still looking for people, but I have a lot of free time on my hands and a lot of boredom to resolve so.
golden gust
WP is nice for end users in a sense, devs love it as it's also a lazy way to offer a CMS without having to make a CMS
strange bane
Yeah, and it's a surprisingly powerful, even if outdated API.
worn ember
Manually editing the css is aids beyond belief
strange bane
The standard coding style makes me want to throw up.
worn ember
And the software is slow as fuck
golden gust
"manually editing"
worn ember
As in using your own css
golden gust
Just gotta hook up sftp 😄
worn ember
No
strange bane
I've written a really neat tool to setup projects quickly.
worn ember
It will override stuff
strange bane
It uses Webpack for watching files and reloading the page.
worn ember
And fuck with you in all kinds of ways
golden gust
See, I've always done stuff more with editing the themes for others needs
strange bane
Right now I'm trying to setup templates in PhpStorm, but I don't understand the template language properly.
Apache's Velocity.
worn ember
Never used it. So no idea
limber knotBOT
[RockyTV] > Well it's not like he can see 160 frames anyway.
[RockyTV] it's noticeable
quick gust
im pretty good web dev and never touched anything outside default np++ tbh
worn ember
Anything above 120 isn't really noticable
quick gust
not even a dark bg
strange bane
Rocky, your monitor can't display 160 frames.
worn ember
Mine is 144hz 
strange bane
Still can't display 160 frames. 😛
azure patio
Me: sees, notices, recognize 165 fps on 165 hz monitor with G-SYNC owo
vestal goblet
merry talon
try doing some angular in np++
fallen oracle
Alrighty bois we're 0 words into this speech 
worn ember
Hmmm
You can talk about global warming how it's fucking everything up and how it's all Trump's fault @fallen oracle
worn ember
Yes which is caused by global warming
shy nova
https://github.com/cmcarey/nozzle behold the beginnings of my spigot plugin/package manager
fallen oracle
So of course I have to talk about skript developers.
digital talon
We need a GreenPlugin to save the earth!
worn ember
Very rare and will attack when offended
hot gorge
Republicans would claim that the GreenPlugin would cost too much tps...
digital talon
I mean even Don´t Starve Together has an option to pause the server when nobody plays on it ^^
worn ember
But me unloaded chunks!!
digital talon
Thats a first step!
worn ember
I remember when chunkloaders in mods were a big hype
And literally fucked you over
Ben when no one was playing
Even*
digital talon
When will we see GreenPaper?
worn ember
RecycledPaper
digital talon
Good call... we need it
sweet vessel
limber knotBOT
[RockyTV] > Rocky, your monitor can't display 160 frames.
[RockyTV] I have a 144hz monitor and this is the same kind of ignorance coming from people that say that "the human eye can't see more than 30 fps"
mfw I write a ternary operation only to realize that I actually need to put some stuff in that underlying if statement
the human eye can't see more than 1337 fps
fallen oracle
WHY NOT
limber knotBOT
BECAUSE IT WAS FORBIDDEN BY OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST
DO YOU WANT ANOTHER TOWER OF BABEL?
lol
[RockyTV] humans are l33t haxx0rz
smh people don't even fear god these days
what with their skyscrapers and their modern medicine and their not respecting my authority
generally hard to fear something that doesn't show itself and you can't see it
so you don't fear viruses?
economic crashes?
global warming?
gvmt mind probes?
ayy lmaos?
we can see viruses, predict economic crashes before they happen due to data, and we can measure global warming
words?
at least of the spoken sort
mind probes I have no clue about lol
the future?
can you see the future frostalf
I don't think anyone can see the future, but we have managed to be able to predict the future fairly accurate given we have enough data on what ever it is we are going to predict
I can't see death yet I fear it
I mean weather reports are just predictions on what is most likely to happen.
I don't know about predicting the future, where are my flying cars
and my robot butlers
unreal quarry
limber knotBOT
instead we have sad little motorized scooters and glorified data gathering home devices for shopping
well technically flying cars already do exist.
fallen oracle
Okay leaf
limber knotBOT
if it can't go to a place a car can go to it ain't a flying car
void void
no thanks, spotify
it can magma, if hes talking about what i think he is
wings fold up and in
limber knotBOT
yep
limber knotBOT
the only reason why its something you don't see, is because of the FAA rules
all flying objects fall under the FAA rules XD
void void
FAA just takes fucking ever to approve something
limber knotBOT
you guys realize there are places on earth not covered by the FAA right
void void
I mean, other countries have similar authorities
And they all take forever to approve things
yay bureaucracy
limber knotBOT
either that or the competing theory: this kills the luser
and whoever the luser crashes into
void void
wat
fallen oracle
wat
limber knotBOT
people can barely drive cars as is imo
hot gorge
Except Boeing jets
hot gorge
They just let Boeing approve those
void void
not an option
limber knotBOT
making them faster and move in three dimensions and affected by air currents just sounds terrifying