general

[void void]

but you never know

her name was bianca devins, so if you look it up use caution because the pics are floating around and it's pretty nasty

[limber knot]

really reminds me of the themes of some of the turn of the century animes

hey at least I don't go around drinking gamergirl bath water

I wonder if we're actually going to overdo social networks to the point where society just collectively decides to give up on them

[void void]

we're already half way there magma

[limber knot]

are we tho

[void void]

idk i dont even use social media very much, so idk how bad it is

[limber knot]

me neither

I have no clue

irc?

[void void]

i didnt say at all, i said not very much

[limber knot]

.g social network definition

(^-^) https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/social network -- Social Network | Definition of Social Network by...: "Social network definition is - a network of individuals (such as friends, acquaintances, and coworkers) connected by interpersonal relationships. How..."

I don't know man I don't maintain relationships with any of you losers

[void void]

technical discord is, because you can friend people; but irc is literally just a chat room

[limber knot]

I drop by, shitpost and mention how great I am

[lime sandal]

If you don’t mind me asking, are there any reasons to not use this instead of spigot?

[void void]

nothing more than channels and chatting

[limber knot]

I call this... a chatroom

patent pending

[void void]

@lime sandal here's the thing

if you ask that question here, we'll say no

if you ask that in spigot, they'll say yes.

[limber knot]

this is a chatroom barty

[lime sandal]

Lol

[void void]

make your own choice ;)

[lime sandal]

I’ve heard paper can be 1-2 builds behind spigot, does this cause issues?

[limber knot]

not really

[void void]

idk who told you that but they're wrong

we're usually tracking pretty close

and if we're not, just ask, and we will be shortly

[hot gorge]

Paper > Spigot

[limber knot]

simple where can I download paper for minecraft 1.15

[merry talon]

simple I saw those pics

[latent sorrel]

They updated 13th twice, 12th, 11th, 10th, 8th twice and so on. paper updates all the time

[merry talon]

its normie shit

[void void]

it's at /dev/null magma

[lime sandal]

Lol

[limber knot]

simple where can I download paper for hytale

[void void]

i saw them too

[merry talon]

compared to what's on 4chan daily

[void void]

i have a source

[limber knot]

people have been asking me to port elitemobs to hytale so I need paper to give me an API for that

[hot gorge]

1.15 is only available for download on Netscape

[fallen oracle]

Has anyone here played Monster Hunter World?

[latent sorrel]

yea

[fallen oracle]

Is it fun?

[limber knot]

not even joking someone asked me to port mc plugins to hytale like 4 months ago

I can only assume that they are clinically insane

[void void]

is hytale even out

[limber knot]

no

[void void]

as far as i know they're still just baiting with previews

and nothing more

[latent sorrel]

If you don't have people to play with, its fun for a while but felt repetitive eventually. If you have people to play with I could def see myself still playing it.

[limber knot]

they asked me that barely any time after the first trailer came out

[latent sorrel]

I played for quite a while even solo with randoms

[fallen oracle]

So is it like open-world kinda like WOW? Or do you only play with X amount of people at a time?

[latent sorrel]

X

[void void]

yea >hytale last update 2 months ago

seemed interesting but definitely sounds like they hit a wall going very high speed

[latent sorrel]

Have you ever played a monster hunter on DS?

[void void]

spalt

[limber knot]

monster hunter world on the pc is fun

[void void]

splat

yeah "looks" being the operative word

[fallen oracle]

Nah, I didn't play it on DS

[void void]

im having doubts it ever will be tangible

[fallen oracle]

I'll probably pass on it then.

[limber knot]

hytale looks like nothing, it's a vertical slice among vertical slices

[lapis sequoia]

im hyped af for mc dungeons

[limber knot]

for all we know that whole thing was made on Maya or Blender

[merry talon]

hytale is going to make the failure of no man's sky look like a fucking joke

I stand by it from day 1

[limber knot]

did you see the feature list for hytale sweepy?

it's fantastic

[merry talon]

I dont care

[limber knot]

no, you should care

seriously

go read it

[merry talon]

NMS had an impressive feature list too

doesnt mean shit

[limber knot]

this makes NMS look like it was planned by a baby who can't count past 4

[merry talon]

what difference does it make

have you seen any kickstarter campaign ever

[limber knot]

the difference is that they promised way more so they get to fail way harder

[void void]

looks at my star citizen pledge and how star citizen is still barely any shit

that campaign got over 100 million dollars

[limber knot]

hahahhahahahahha simple

you got got

[merry talon]

I know people who have spent 10k on star citizen

[void void]

they have 1 port, and i think 1 city on 1 planet

[merry talon]

how stupid do you have to be

[latent sorrel]

A buddy spent like $1500 on it

[void void]

when the "goal" was procedurally generated fully immersive space

[limber knot]

jfc

I need to start scamming people with really bad scams

[void void]

i spend 40 bucks

that's it

[limber knot]

it's like people want to lose their money

[latent sorrel]

He has a decent income though and the vision for Star Citizen is his dream game, so he sees it as worth

[limber knot]

gib me $1000 each and I promise to make Minecraft 2

[hot gorge]

Star Citizen will never be done.

[void void]

his vision for star citizen is literally an alternate reality and it sounds nice but it's literally not coming to fruition after years

[limber knot]

it will natively support modding and have full on data download on server join

[latent sorrel]

It might eventually. Big games take years, people just arent used to it being so open like this

[hot gorge]

Star Citizen has been in development for like ten years....

[latent sorrel]

and a big game like that by an established studio takes 4+

[merry talon]

star citizen is everyone's dream game because it promises literally everything

[latent sorrel]

Look at witcher or fallout games

[hot gorge]

We got to the moon in less time

[limber knot]

yeah but they're building the moon sonorous

[void void]

https://puu.sh/DTElw/a8e12a82ef.png

2949

is he saying it'll be ready in 930 years

[limber knot]

you just don't get it

you can't rush perfection

[latent sorrel]

witcher 3 took 4 years for a big company and the fallout / elder scrolls games take 6+

[void void]

to be fair they made like 40 spaceships

[limber knot]

cdpr wasn't that huge of a company when witcher 3 came out

[lime sandal]

Is paper sometimes referred to as paperspigot?

[void void]

big /s

[limber knot]

@lime sandal [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

witcher 3 made the studio, really

[void void]

it used to be paperspigot but it is paper.

[limber knot]

@void void [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

[lime sandal]

Ok

[void void]

yes thanks korobi

[latent sorrel]

goodbot

[lime sandal]

good boit

[limber knot]

I will find a way to get that bot to loop some day

[latent sorrel]

What they do have right now looks BEAUTIFUL though

[merry talon]

It won't respond to itself

[latent sorrel]

I could hardly run it, shit was taking 24GB of ram

[hot gorge]

Barty it was announced in 2012 as a kickstarter

Yeah. Total joke

[latent sorrel]

You see how many people they have working on it?

[limber knot]

lol

[fallen oracle]

Yikes. Just got temp IP blocked from Steam for entering too many keys.

[hot gorge]

Duke Nukem forever for duex

[latent sorrel]

475

Glare you humble bundlin?

[hot gorge]

Sort of

[limber knot]

have you guys read reports of the work conditions over at the dudes that are making that game

[fallen oracle]

I got a mix of that and some fanatical stuff.

[limber knot]

it's great

[hot gorge]

NMS at launch was shit

[limber knot]

arguably it still is

[hot gorge]

Eh

[limber knot]

still wouldn't buy it

or play it for free, really

[hot gorge]

For $30 it's alright

[limber knot]

the gameplay loop isn't really appealing

and the endgame is... lol

[void void]

PaperSpigot 😮 it even has a link to yives mirror 😭

[limber knot]

@void void [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

[void void]

ffs bot

[hot gorge]

I think the best $30 I have spent has been PUBG. Mainly because I was able to sell items on Steam and make $60

[limber knot]

how much was factorio again

[latent sorrel]

I sold all my items to buy other PUBG items...

[limber knot]

like $15?

[latent sorrel]

Dunno never got that one. I like Rimworld tho

[limber knot]

factorio and minecraft are by far my best investments in gaming

I literally can't count how many thousands of hours I have on mc

[latent sorrel]

Considering I bought Minecraft back when it was $3 regular price.... Ive gotten my moneys worth

[limber knot]

many, many, many thousands

more than anyone should have, probably

bought it when it got out of infdev

[latent sorrel]

I dont wanna think about the numbers

[limber knot]

nevr really stopped

[shut thicket]

I bloody loved factorio

[latent sorrel]

I dont remember what the exact stage name was called, I just know it was $3 and went up to $5 like 2 weeks later and I was within the first 700 purchases

[hot gorge]

Anyone tried Satisfactory?

[shut thicket]

In my first week of playing it I put in... 65 hours

[limber knot]

I have to be careful when I boot up factorio because before I know it it's 3 days later and I've added 100 hours to the playtime

[hot gorge]

It's Alpha, but pretty fun

[latent sorrel]

Thats how I am with Rimworld 😃

[limber knot]

satisfactory seemed really basic tbh

it's a bit more limiting than Factory tbh

[merry talon]

oh his mirror is back huh

[hot gorge]

Well, alpha...

[limber knot]

even out of alpha

I have a modpack that is basically ww3

it would probably melt anything in 3d

[latent sorrel]

Yo 😃 do you have an actual name? Otherwise im gonna put a 😃 every time I speak to you

[limber knot]

this is my legal name

please read it phonetically

[lime sandal]

lol

[latent sorrel]

why the \

[limber knot]

because I'm waving you dunce

lol

[latent sorrel]

ahhhh

[limber knot]

^-^7

[lime sandal]

how do you read that phonetically?

[limber knot]

\^-^7

now I'm dabbing on you

[merry talon]

oh I thought it was some retarded escape char

[limber knot]

\^-^7

[hot gorge]

With your eyes

[latent sorrel]

I haven't done much smiley facing since like middle school

back in AIM

[void void]

bslashcaretdashcaret is his legal name

[limber knot]

look at all these haters

[latent sorrel]

and GAIA online

[limber knot]

you know what to do

\^-^7

[merry talon]

sounds german simple

[limber knot]

this is the best username to get away with a crime

it's clearly Backslash Circumflex Minus Circumflex...

[void void]

.kill bslashcaretdashcaret

[limber knot]

gets some friends together and shivs bslashcaretdashcaret a few times.

[fallen oracle]

TIL SAO has a steam game.

[void void]

should i know who that is

[limber knot]

SAO is a cancer that keeps expanding to other mediums

[void void]

.g SAO

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_Art_Online -- Sword Art Online - Wikipedia: "Sword Art Online is a Japanese light novel series written by Reki Kawahara and illustrated by abec. The series takes place in the near future and..."

[latent sorrel]

that sounds bad

[limber knot]

consider yourself lucky if you don't recognize it

[void void]

gross

[merry talon]

weebs

[fallen oracle]

Oh shit, American Truck Simulator is $5 right now.

[latent sorrel]

You guys ever play the chinese browser attack on titan game?

actually fun with some buds

[void void]

wtf happened to that euro truck simulator shit

[limber knot]

american truck simulator? do they give you a shotgun?

[merry talon]

Euro truck simulator too

much better

[void void]

i tried to play it and crashed into the loading bay and closed it forever

[fallen oracle]

I have a bad habit of buying games and not playing them.

[limber knot]

I just wish you could drive on all roads ;_;

I should make a 2050 truck simulator

it's self-driving

[hot gorge]

That game needs to be played with a wheel

[lime sandal]

btw is this an irc bridge?

[limber knot]

you boot it up and just look at a monitor in-game to track its progress

[void void]

yes it is

[limber knot]

no, you are on discord not on irc? 🤔

[latent sorrel]

I havent played like 70% of my steam games but thats because of how many shit games I got from humble bundles where I only wanted 1 game out of then 10

[lime sandal]

cool

[limber knot]

it's clearly a Discord bridge...

[lime sandal]

just an warning, webhooks can ping @ everyone

[fallen oracle]

@void void Euro Truck Simulator 2 is also $5 right now.

[limber knot]

I doubt that the bot wouldn't filter out at-everyone

[void void]

his point was are messages from IRC appearing in here, phoenix, quit being so pedantic for the love of god

[limber knot]

\at-everyone

[lime sandal]

I've seen many that don't

[limber knot]

hm

s/at/@

Correction, <DiscordBot> <09A​re​si​el​> I've seen many th**@** don't

lol

[merry talon]

We've been through that

[limber knot]

hang on now

well that one does replace @ with at-

[fallen oracle]

It's ironic because Wiz's didn't.

[limber knot]

at-everyone see

[fallen oracle]

Someone just did it in his Discord.

[limber knot]

s/at/@

Correction, <phoenix616> well th**@** one does replace @ with @-

[lime sandal]

Yup

Wiz's didn't

[limber knot]

fuck

.lart ^-^

(phoenix616) I can't attack that.

wat

[pulsar wigeon]

i didn't nothing

[limber knot]

.art xD

I am immune, loser

[pulsar wigeon]

i don't have fucking permissions to change anything about that discord or that bot

[limber knot]

(phoenix616) Deakin XD - https://open.spotify.com/artist/1eaZr8i51tqXm5t8bPjKuj / spotify:artist:1eaZr8i51tqXm5t8bPjKuj

meh

[pulsar wigeon]

jesus

[fallen oracle]

Ahh shit he's here.

Run

[pulsar wigeon]

fuck off yall

[fallen oracle]

RUN RUN RUN

[pulsar wigeon]

it's not my fucking discord

i literally can't do shit but ban people

[limber knot]

what are we banning wiz for?

sorry I mean blaming

[latent sorrel]

The one for your plugins isnt yours? or a diff one

[hot gorge]

Emotional support?

[limber knot]

.rekt

☑ Star Trekt

can you guys be my emotional support animal

like, collectively

me, pay me

why would you want a paper plane as an emotional support animal?

the only things it's going to do is either cut you or fly away

so I can legally collectively put you all down phoenix616

[latent sorrel]

I aint in it atm, someone go see whose discord name is the admin and pass it to barty already

[limber knot]

🤔

[hot gorge]

What's the exchange rate for a barty buck to a Stanley nickel?

[lime sandal]

I haven't not that I haven't tried cutting other people with them

[limber knot]

**don't blame me for playing 4d chess

[lime sandal]

4d chess sounds difficult

[hot gorge]

4d? Doesn't chess already involve time?

[limber knot]

it's not time buddy

[lime sandal]

pray that this starts...

[limber knot]

none of the 4 dimensions are the ones you're expecting

[lime sandal]

my server

[limber knot]

@S​on​or​ou​s but chess only involves two other dimensions

[hot gorge]

What other options do I have besides prayer

[limber knot]

every normal chess is already 3D chess ;)

[latent sorrel]

barty I went into the discord but there isnt a section on the side bar for admin, just the devs and verified and the devs arent admins or owner

so no idea how to find out who you need to message

[hot gorge]

I guess you have to define the dimensions used

[void void]

Eclipse 2019-06 looks better than 2019-03

[limber knot]

there was an eclipse last month? Oo

also why would you compare multiple ones?

[merry talon]

I think he's talking about the shitty IDE

[limber knot]

can't tell if you're being stupid or stupid on purpose

[void void]

erm

ive noticed UI changes

[limber knot]

well I try to forget that exiss, thanks for reminding me...

[latent sorrel]

@spare venture Me4502
#4502

[limber knot]

it's like schrodinger's stupidity

[void void]

for some reason they have some fkin maven thing in build path now

[limber knot]

not just using the account Me#4502 🤔

[latent sorrel]

thats the owner of the discord you were banned in

[limber knot]

no idea, I only know who Me4502 is

[void void]

and im sorry tht im not into downloading a 500 MB installer for an IDE I don't need

[fallen oracle]

500MB isn't that bad

That's like 8 seconds.

[limber knot]

then why did you download Eclipse in the first place? 🤔

[void void]

bc tutorial used it

and i had no idea IntelliJ existed

and i hav 25mbps

[limber knot]

I guess that's the only valid reason 🤔

[void void]

welp I like it

[limber knot]

IntelliJ is better though

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[void void]

hm

ah yes the eternal IDE biases

[limber knot]

please let's be intellijent about this

[void void]

I don't need auto variable sht

[limber knot]

I mean I used to use Eclipse before switching to IDEA...

[latent sorrel]

I play Minecraft

[limber knot]

wow you degenerate wolfgang

[latent sorrel]

D=

[void void]

well I like the icon improvements

[limber knot]

I mean I guess Eclipse might be better now after they got pressured by IntelliJ to improve but back then it was a massive improvement

[void void]

from pixelated to 2k res

well ive noticed more maven support i think

[latent sorrel]

But which one looks better? Any of us that have played a video game know that looks > performance

[limber knot]

what?

back then? def IntelliJ, no idea if Eclipse looks modern yet xD

[void void]

its an IDE

[limber knot]

speak for yourself wolfgang

my favorite videogame is my screensaver

[latent sorrel]

yea but it still has a GUI azure

[void void]

I will send pic of Eclipse then

[wide chasm]

My IJ ran out of memory today while opening the Material class lol

[void void]

oof

u prob have more ram then me?

than :(

[wide chasm]

I have 6 GB

[void void]

oof i hav 8 gb

[merry talon]

looks > performance? you're insane

I set everything to absolute bare minimum to squeeze out 10 fps

[latent sorrel]

You have never worn lvl 10 armor at level 40 because it looks cool?

[void void]

oh yeah it was sweep who can't even see gifs in discord without it dying

[merry talon]

oh

[void void]

https://giphy.com/gifs/laughing-applause-mike-tyson-wWue0rCDOphOE

[merry talon]

also no on that

[latent sorrel]

I remember those days on my laptop

[merry talon]

and I've never played a game on that PC

[latent sorrel]

When the nether was released it finally broke 200 F

[merry talon]

My normal one can run stuff great

[void void]

Eclipse 2019-06

[latent sorrel]

I approve of the rainbow

[merry talon]

but I still want games to look like they have terminal cancer

[void void]

see

IntelliJ colours r dull

[latent sorrel]

Then we have a winner

[limber knot]

what's the diference between these two pictures lols?

[wide chasm]

Eww rainbow colors

[merry talon]

also you dont need to post it twice

[void void]

Sweepy

[limber knot]

also > not using rainbow brackets

[void void]

i posted link for da IRC users

[limber knot]

runs

it auto links images

[void void]

oh lol

[limber knot]

or well, images are actually just links in discord, the client just auto-replaces them with images

[merry talon]

can we talk about how that code has terminal cancer as well

[pulsar wigeon]

^

you literally linked the same thing twice

[void void]

mk

ya its gone

[pulsar wigeon]

not on irc it isn't :P

[void void]

mk

[limber knot]

and yeah, it still has round corners ;_; that's so 2005-ish

[wide chasm]

Is that BcBroz code? Cause it looks like it.

[void void]

I used his tutorials yes

[merry talon]

ah yes

[wide chasm]

That explains it

[void void]

then i used tutorials and added metrics etc

[merry talon]

learning from youtube tutorials

[limber knot]

you realise you can just do JavaPlugin#getName and #getVersion, right?

[void void]

idk

im new

[limber knot]

also please for the love of god use your plugin's logger, not the general Minecraft one...

[merry talon]

and stop using main

[void void]

public class Main extends JavaPlugin implements Listener {

listener is left over

from command transfer

or i need for events

[wide chasm]

Listener is for events

[limber knot]

also you don't need to log that your plugin enabled, the server will do that for you automatically ;)

[void void]

mk

erm

i dont think so?

[wide chasm]

Tbf the server says "enabling" it doesn't indicate finishing it.

[void void]

^^

u should see Metrics.java

its rainbow

hash maps r like purple

https://timings.spigotmc.org/?url=sujemovapa

hey

how can i solv this

[marble summit]

Went to the hook burger for my birthday

And got some free cupcakes from Susie cakes

[limber knot]

how very american of you

[marble summit]

America fuck yeah!

[fallen oracle]

I must've really pissed Steam off. I still can't redeem keys.

Wonder how long the block typically is.

[void void]

do we even support spigot timings?

assuming so since aikar made them

[fallen oracle]

Bless up.

[golden gust]

Using v1 timings when v2 exists is like taking all that data that it recorded and shoving it in a car compactor

[void void]

world saving and ticking entites. Not much I can say. Use paper for timings v2 for more information @void void

im gonna change to paper

ye

send us your timings after u switch

i think i was in

xD

ye it looks better and we can see what is actually lagging ur server

[fallen oracle]

Poor Brian

[lime sandal]

paper works fine so far

after finding out that my pufferpanel template downloaded 1.12 and changing it to the actual version I'm using

[void void]

pufferpanel

rip

[lime sandal]

lol

it works fine usually

[pulsar wigeon]

glare i think your discord is broken

there's 2 messages in between there

[fallen oracle]

o.o

[pulsar wigeon]

or did you purposefully cut that for comedic effect?

[fallen oracle]

No, that's what it shows on my screen.

I have an update for Discord, wonder if I need to do that.

[fallen oracle]

O.O

Weird, now it shows up.

[marble summit]

@everyone die

This post was made by edgelord gang

[lime sandal]

lol

[shut thicket]

Imagine.

@fallen oracle I saw you flexing your steam download, I have something along the same lines

[fallen oracle]

Lmao

[shut thicket]

Steam shows in MB and speedtest shows in Mb tho

so divide by 8

oh

I'm nowhere close

I did my mental math terribly wrong

[void void]

https://timings.aikar.co/?id=9fe68f5ec37a4aca99880a5ee7395769

thats it

[shut thicket]

wrong channel bro

[void void]

@void void

mm i dont think that discount

xD

[shut thicket]

#paper-help

Is the proper channel

[void void]

i was talking with aaron

[void void]

oh my internet so bad

[shut thicket]

That gigabit fiber

nice

[void void]

why is it so difficult to create a node module using es6. what the honest fuck. I've got it compiling with webpack now but axios won't fucking work

[fallen oracle]

Still trying to work with Tumblr?

[void void]

this is honest to god straight up pain

no

i wrote an API and now I'm trying to make a js client for it

and it's god damn impossible

[fallen oracle]

Did you try rebooting?

runs

[limber knot]

how2reboottheuniverse

mine's glitched, it keeps generating dumdums

[void void]

well mine generated fucking javascript

so it's time to scrap and restart

[golden gust]

.rekt

[limber knot]

☑ Rekt750

[limber knot]

Choco have small penis

[void void]

kay

[shut thicket]

eyes

[void void]

I'm considering just not writing a client and using the API straight from the web app

what could go wrong...

:(

[limber knot]

You need the latest node and an experimental flag to use ES6 modules with node

[void void]

es6 already works

it's axios that's giving me a cryptic error

[limber knot]

Sure all the other features but not modules

[void void]

something about adapter not being a function

[limber knot]

For that you need babel or webpack

[void void]

have both, thx

[limber knot]

Oh, that's probably because of the way you imported it

[void void]

yeah fuck js, 16 million things to import for a 25 line class to work

4000 lines of config

another 16 dependencies to build

another one to pack it

another one to minify it

another one to polyfill it

like someone stop this fucking shitshowe

[limber knot]

I do import Axios, {AxiosInstance} from 'axios';

[void void]

i have import axios from 'axios';

literally as per docs

broken

[golden gust]

ur broken

[void void]

i just want to write a fucking client

[limber knot]

Then Axios.create() is what you call and AxiosInstance is what it returns

[void void]

i was calling create same issue

[limber knot]

So you don't need that second one if you aren't using TypeScript

[void void]

lmao

[limber knot]

Try import Axios from 'axios'; then

I have no idea if that even makes a difference TBH :P

For imports and the various shit that babel and webpack do to them vs what browsers and node actually support I just try random shit until it gives what I want

I haven't say down and figured out what it's actually doing

[void void]

no different w ith capital letter.

[vestal jasper]

anyone know what the fuck this player is trying to do?

[static badge]

watch and find out

[golden gust]

auto smelter?

[vestal jasper]

it keeps breaking and setting off the anti dupe plugin

[void void]

idk i guess it could be that I'm forced to set webpacks output globalObject to 'this' seeing as otherwise it doesn't fucking work outside of a web browser

[golden gust]

lol

[vestal jasper]

Stopped a minecart from being glitched into a block

[shut thicket]

Didn't think duplication was a thing in 1.14

without causing tonnes of lag

[limber knot]

You can probably get away with just using @babel/core, @babel/node, and @babel/preset-env then creating a .babelrc with {"presets": ["@babel/preset-env"]} and running your script with npx babel-node src/foo.js

[void void]

im using esm because babel-node was screaming MODULE NOT DEFINED AAHAPHDLWJSFLCWESDLKXJFGHJDS

[vestal jasper]

[limber knot]

Oh my bad, they changed the command name too, npx @babel/node src/foo.js

[shut thicket]

so is it duping

[vestal jasper]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[golden gust]

lol

[vestal jasper]

it breaks before they finish making it

[hot gorge]

Was that coral on the top?

[golden gust]

What type of carts are those?

[pulsar wigeon]

hopper?

[limber knot]

There is no point to esm or even babel if you're using webpack, btw

[vestal jasper]

hopper carts

They placed rails, put them on the rails, then removed the rails

[limber knot]

webpack replaces whatever modules setup you're using in your code with a custom webpack modules system and ships the module resolver with your bundle

[vestal jasper]

looks like they're doing something else now

[hot gorge]

Looks like a smelting system to me

But a bad one

[void void]

im only using webpack because some dipshit told me i have to for js

fuck js

[limber knot]

The only reason to use babel is if you need to support older browsers or node versions or want to use some bleeding edge stuff that isn't supported yet

[void void]

@void void try limiting entites seems like theyre causing lag (In the world named world)

[vestal jasper]

I still have no idea what the fuck this is supposed to accomplish

[shut thicket]

something like this?

[limber knot]

If you're using webpack, that is

I wouldn't use webpack for node stuff though

[vestal jasper]

Nah if they were doing rail duplication the plugin would've found out. It's pretty good at correctly determining what's happening.

[limber knot]

I'd use just babel instead

[void void]

i mean it is going to run in the browser, i just need to test the fucking thing before i go and publish it on npm registry

so im trying to test it in a normal god damn node app

but NOOOOOO

[limber knot]

Did you configure webpack to target node instead of the web?

[void void]

https://puu.sh/DTGBs/f0c66e2d10.png

[vestal jasper]

this looks like some heavily overengineered and fuckity auto smelter

[hot gorge]

Indeed

[limber knot]

@void void https://webpack.js.org/concepts/targets/

[void void]

my fucking face when

aight so that worked then I tried to do Axios.create() again and im getting the cute regeneratorRuntime is not defined bullshit AGAIN

jesus fu ck

[limber knot]

That one is generally because you misused @babel/polyfill

Either you didn't import it or you configured it wrong but you configured @babel/preset-env so it's getting used

[void void]

so does polyfill need to be in the mf testing code or in the actual library

because webpack has no problem compiling it or whatever the f uck

[limber knot]

The polyfill should be imported in your entry point

[void void]

hnngh

[limber knot]

I have no idea what the convention is for libraries

Like, should a library ship a polyfill? No idea

I would guess no

So your library shouldn't use it but you should have an entry point for your test code and that should import it (and that entry point should also be run through babel)

[pulsar wigeon]

dang, burger doesn't generate TE ids for old versions

[vestal jasper]

Fun part of being a dev is that you get to see all the fun issues which aren't really fixable

I hate it when people find issues I can't fix

mfw how do I english

[lime sandal]

Welcome Loïc and Serum

[young scaffold]

Graçias

Here for plugin development troubleshooting

After grinding my gears for 10 hours i'm done

[lime sandal]

Half the reason I use paper is that it has as discord server

[lapis sequoia]

Saaaame

[lime sandal]

is paper an fork of bukkit or spigot?

[void void]

spigot.

[lime sandal]

and isn't spigot a fork of bukkit?

[void void]

yes.

[lime sandal]

so, i might, might just tell the dudes who removed my post on the spigot forums for downsides of using paper because it's an fork that spigot is a fork

[lapis sequoia]

Looool

Anything said about paper on spigot forums is not received well iirc

[void void]

you will get banned from spigot for mentioning or promoting paper

guaranteed

they're all shitheads

[lapis sequoia]

😂

[lime sandal]

well, no one is removing my things here because of talking of spigot

[lapis sequoia]

Just wait till our 20% is more than 50%

[void void]

because we aren't shitheads

(mostly)

[lapis sequoia]

Then they might listen

[void void]

spigot is what i like to call closed open source

it's open source as long as they like you

[lime sandal]

what

[void void]

if they don't like you they will try to burn you with fire

and they don't like paper because we don't like how md_5 does stupid shit in code, and then fix it

and they don't like our fixes

:^)

spigot is an md_5 religion

[lime sandal]

i got an idea

[void void]

they all worship him, and you bet he loves it

[vestal jasper]

And retards complain their poorly made plugins don't work on paper

[lime sandal]

you should submit an pull request

with every fix you do

[void void]

they get declined

you think they didn't try?

lol

[lime sandal]

no, I mean to harass them

[void void]

they just get banned

he controls the source code platform

he controls it all my dude

he's a tiny king with a tiny dick

[lime sandal]

think this will go well?

[void void]

big compensation

yup his site mods are ridiculous

[lapis sequoia]

You will probably get banned yo

[golden gust]

There is no real gain for us submitting PRs

[limber knot]

It's not uncommon for a project to not allow discussing competing projects and forks on their community spaces

[lime sandal]

I want to change my username either way

That doesn't make it right

[static badge]

all I'm waiting for is paper to take over

and do the same shit :>

[lime sandal]

And I see how they won't provide support for a fork, but discussion about it should be fine imo

[vestal jasper]

It makes complete sense for a project not to offer support for forks of it

[lapis sequoia]

Lemme tell u here and now, paper is worth it, the performance is hella better than spigot and the support discord is a great place if you need help with things

[static badge]

it'll be fucking good to see that

[limber knot]

I'm waiting for Sponge to take over :P

[vestal jasper]

Hostility towards forks is something I don't understand though

[lapis sequoia]

I'm only in this discord to post a bunch of timings mostly because I'm too dumb to read them myself and understand what they are saying and eventually someone helps me so it works out oh and follow the daily drama and stay in the loop about bug fixes and such :)

[lime sandal]

Btw, does anyone use fabric?

[limber knot]

Forks are essentially hostile by nature

Forking is you saying you disagree with or think you can do better than the original project

Hostility toward forks is the norm

[vestal jasper]

I disagree

The original dev may not have time to work on the project

[limber knot]

You disagree with history?

[vestal jasper]

Or the original dev may simply not want to work on the features

[static badge]

he's not wrong

[golden gust]

We mostly just find the beauty in the hypocrisy

[static badge]

I mean is paper not quite that

[limber knot]

A fork of a dead project is a different thing

[lime sandal]

paper is really just fixes, right?

[golden gust]

It's not really ideal to have to deal with people submitting reports from software which isn't yours

[vestal jasper]

Just because forks can be hostile doesn't mean they always are or hostility is the root of all forks

[limber knot]

And a fork where you add features the original dev doesn't want is you saying you think you know better than the original dev what the project needs

So still hostile

Even if sometimes there is mutual acceptance of the fork happening

[vestal jasper]

"you think you know better"
No it's saying the original dev doesn't want to add it and I do. It's just a disagreement.

Or a difference in priorities

[void void]

Why would spigot refuse to merge fine patches. It is like they are only furthering the performance gap between spigot and paper.

[static badge]

we don't quite send all of ours over there

[lime sandal]

I'm not telling them to like the fork, just not to attack it

[limber knot]

Spigot now has the same problem we had with accepting some Spigot patches to CraftBukkit, they have to maintain the whole thing so adding more work for a relatively small gain isn't worth it to them

But you only have to maintain the stuff you add on top so it's less work overall and you can convince yourself some messier diff is worth it

[vestal jasper]

How many people actively contribute to spigot?

[static badge]

a few

[limber knot]

I mean, they also just don't accept things period but that's a different issue

[vestal jasper]

I've only really heard md_5's name tossed around but I've seen a couple other people in the past

[static badge]

so far my prs to spigot get accepted

[limber knot]

It used to be md_5, mikeprimm, Aikar, and Thinkofdeath, mainly

[lime sandal]

posts hasen't been removed yet

[limber knot]

The only one still there is md_5, I don't know any new people that might be around

[vestal jasper]

Ah

[lime sandal]

Who's in paper?

[static badge]

I think some guy named blablubbabc is there

[limber knot]

I mean, there might be new people but I don't know who they are. As in even if they exist and I knew their name I likely wouldn't have any idea who that is.

[static badge]

but it looks like mostly md5

looking over the recent commits from the last month or so

[limber knot]

You know when md_5 took over CraftBukkit++ he was kind of trying to kill it?

[static badge]

was he?

[limber knot]

At least as a separate fork, he was sort of a Bukkit developer at the time and was looking in to how to add API so CB++ could do things as a plugin or how much of it he could hack in via a plugin using NMS stuff and just drop the rest of it

[lime sandal]

What's CraftBukkit++?

[static badge]

huh

[limber knot]

But the sticking point was the block ticking changes, couldn't come up with an API for that and the plugin version was super ugly so he kept it as a fork

[static badge]

I'm not very familiar with old CB lore

[limber knot]

CB++ is the project md_5 took over and renamed Spigot

[lime sandal]

Ok

[limber knot]

He didn't write any of the code in there either, just ported it to new versions (and did a shit job of it, Aikar had to come along and fix the block ticking patches for 1.2+ versions)

[static badge]

[limber knot]

And the block ticking patches were the entire point of using it

[static badge]

what were those patches

[lime sandal]

So, my post hasen't been removed yet but I was told that I probably should've posted it in off-topic so I did that now, Let's see how it goes

[static badge]

the "stop ticking this shit after they take too long" patch?

[limber knot]

The ones to tick less blocks

Vanilla ticked like 9 blocks per chunk in a 13x13 chunk radius around each player at the time CB++ first added that

[static badge]

oh

[limber knot]

CB++ changed it to a fixed (but configurable) number of blocks per tick split evenly between players, starting near the player and working out

iirc

But 1.2 changed block ticking anyway so that patch is kind of worthless past 1.2 for most servers and on top of that the patch broke things so crops and grass grew at weird rates in Spigot

[static badge]

oh I see, that would be the random block ticks yeah?

[limber knot]

Yeah

That patch was the only reason to use CB++ or early Spigot, the rest of what it did was things we either ended up adding to Bukkit or you could already do via a plugin and was only in the fork for the lazy server owner the fork was maintained for

Then mikeprimm wrote his rewrite of the block tick scheduler (for redstone and flowing liquids and such) which was a nice little win but was fragile code only he understood and broke with every update

[static badge]

I've seen dynmap

[limber knot]

It wasn't until Aikar did the entity ticking range stuff that Spigot gained another major reason to use it

[lime sandal]

Is normal craftbukkit even a thing anymore?

[limber knot]

Sort of

[static badge]

yes

nobody really uses it

[limber knot]

Spigot still puts out a CraftBukkit release so they have something to look good in comparison to

But no one uses it

[peak dirge]

Kind of, md_5 maintains a "legally dubious" version and that's what Spigot is built off now.

[static badge]

recently they've stopped building the cb jar for buildtools

as of early 1.14 I believe

also how much stuff has md5 actually written for spigot himself

[peak dirge]

I've seen people actually use CraftBukkit Spigot releases

[static badge]

wiz says some people still use that given his WE stats or whatever

[lime sandal]

When going through the download steps on bukkit's website you get sent to spigotmc

[static badge]

do you?

[lime sandal]

yeah

[limber knot]

Actual bugfixes or features in the server itself? md_5 has written almost zero although he does maintain it and port it to new vanilla versions

[peak dirge]

It's an interesting position when you've been able to maintain one of the most popular Bukkit plugins in the world (Buycraft)

[static badge]

https://bukkit.gamepedia.com/FAQ#Where_can_I_get_it.3F

[limber knot]

He wrote some tooling and such although I want to say Aikar wrote the build system

[golden gust]

People use CB, but it's more around people who don't want spigot breakages or "that's just what they use"

[lime sandal]

https://bukkit.org/ > Get CraftBukkit > CraftBukkit - Where can I get it? > Build Tools provided by SpigotMC > SpigotMC

[pulsar wigeon]

leaf, idk how bstats works, i'm just saying what i see

this is pure 1.13+ data, since WE7 doesn't even run on 1.12 https://i.imgur.com/WKKuzBG.png

[static badge]

15.2%

[lime sandal]

What's TacoSpigot

[golden gust]

fork of paper

[lime sandal]

And nice that paper has a decent part

so a fork of a fork of a fork?

[golden gust]

yup

[pulsar wigeon]

of a fork

craftbukkit is just a minecraft fork :^)

[lime sandal]

lol

Is TacoSpigot up to date?

[pulsar wigeon]

oh wait

[golden gust]

Techable isn't really around anymore

[static badge]

it hasn't been maintained

[pulsar wigeon]

i totally just linked the wrong image

[limber knot]

is there an armor equip event?

[pulsar wigeon]

https://i.imgur.com/WjuLri7.png

[lime sandal]

what was that other?

[pulsar wigeon]

just realized when he asked about taco that that was the wrong one

global

[lime sandal]

huh?

[pulsar wigeon]

includes loads of 1.8 and whatever

not WE stats

[lime sandal]

aha

[pulsar wigeon]

no there isn't magma

you need to listen to like

[limber knot]

fun fun fun

[golden gust]

I've done a few upstream merges for taco, but the applicable patches just keeps dropping and better it just die than being strung along

[pulsar wigeon]

6 different events

and do logic yourself

based on what the item is

[limber knot]

great

ok well I guess I'm not optimizing this

I'll just keep scanning players on a delay

[pulsar wigeon]

e.g. right clicking a diamond helmet will equip it, right clicking a dragon head will not

[limber knot]

^-^: https://github.com/Arnuh/ArmorEquipEvent

[pulsar wigeon]

but opening inv and manually dragging/clicking/dropping/hotkeyswapping/etc will

yea you can use something like that but

[lime sandal]

So what's the reason you don't put TacoSpigot's improvements into paper?

[pulsar wigeon]

it's not foolproof

fuck speaking of which

elytra

[static badge]

elytra

[rough swift]

oops wrong discord my bad

[limber knot]

rip internet

[lime sandal]

TacoSpigot isn't foolproof?

[pulsar wigeon]

does right-clicking equip an elytra?

[limber knot]

yes

[static badge]

yeah

[pulsar wigeon]

ok

missed that one

[static badge]

I don't think many of taco's patches are applicable

lemme go look over the ones currently

[lime sandal]

ok

[static badge]

.g tacospigot github

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://github.com/TacoSpigot -- TacoSpigot · GitHub: "TacoSpigot has 9 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub."

[lime sandal]

Good bot

[pulsar wigeon]

arrowcollide
paper has projectile collide i thought?

[static badge]

I think we do

I remember resolving conflicts for it on the .14 update

[limber knot]

gotta love the decentralized web: currently discord, twitter, facebook, google and youtube aren't reachable for me...

[golden gust]

Some of tacos changes did look interesting, some of them are just a bit too out of scope for us, some of them are a bit of an eer on the side

[static badge]

the datawatcher patch is non-applicable given mine

[golden gust]

And yea, we have an event, could do with some improvements but those'll probably need to be breaking

[pulsar wigeon]

use array for blockstates

wait wtf is it in currently

    private int a;
    private final IdentityHashMap<T, Integer> b;
    private final List<T> c;```
oof

forge already uses public static final ObjectIntIdentityMap<BlockState> BLOCK_STATE_IDS = net.minecraftforge.registries.GameData.getBlockStateIDMap(); so i didn't even notice

WE uses an array too

[lime sandal]

cool

[latent sorrel]

So I am going to ask what most of you likely consider a very stupid question. People always talk about how Minecraft doesn't support multi-threading properly but why is it that all my threads are at even usage when running my server then? Do certain parts of the server run on different threads but not all of them? Are plugins mostly multi-core and its them that I am seeing? Just a slight confusion.

[static badge]

world gen is currently threaded

[pulsar wigeon]

why is it that all my threads are at even usage

they're not

do you mean your cores?

[latent sorrel]

All 8 threads show even usage if I do something like a large world edit

[pulsar wigeon]

yea worldedit 100% only runs on MT

[latent sorrel]

ah

[pulsar wigeon]

so idk what you're looking at

and again, threads aren't cores

[latent sorrel]

I know. It has 4 cores, 8 threads

Thanks for the answer

[pulsar wigeon]

when people talk about threads in minecraft

we're talking about software threads

not cpu-level "hyperthreading" threads

[hot gorge]

He was seeing all 8 logical CPUs being used

[latent sorrel]

Ahh ok. I have never seen the distinction mentioned, likely since everyone who ive seen talk about it knew what they all meant

[limber knot]

reddit doesn't have thread though, only posts 🤔

[hot gorge]

You're both technically correct in your terminology

[pulsar wigeon]

it's not about being correct in terminology

[hot gorge]

K

[static badge]

wat

[pulsar wigeon]

People always talk about how Minecraft doesn't support multi-threading properly but why is it that all my threads are at even usage when running my server then?

he literally asked about the context of MC multi-threading

[hot gorge]

I understand what he asked. I can read

[wide hazel]

@atomic marten apparently disabling hyperthreading does in fact carry a small boost to MC performance

[static badge]

apparently

[void void]

is there a way to benchmark server performance without players

[latent sorrel]

So wait should I tell it to just run on the physical cores? I know how to do that but have never seen that mentioned anywhere

[hot gorge]

I wouldn't wolfgang

Just let it run where it wants to

[bright ermine]

What is prevent_proxy_connections?

[wide hazel]

the OS's thread scheduler knows better than you do

[hot gorge]

Sometimes

[latent sorrel]

gotcha

[bright ermine]

and what's the best option to set connection_throttle?

[latent sorrel]

Ah I see where I have 3341 threads atm and the number varies, I guess that is the software ones that people talk about in the MC context?

[hot gorge]

Yeah

Lol

[bright ermine]

I set my connection_throttle to -1

what should I set my connection_throttle_limit to?

[hot gorge]

Default?

[bright ermine]

3?

[hot gorge]

Why would you need to change it?

[latent sorrel]

The delay before a client is allowed to connect again after a recent connection attempt. A value of 0 disables the connection throttle but leaves your server susceptible to attacks (only recommended for test servers). (long, milliseconds)
Default: 4000

[bright ermine]

to improve timing out issues and random kicks

[latent sorrel]

So it wont stop timing out or random kicks

[bright ermine]

timeout: -1

and I did network_compression_threshold: -1

[latent sorrel]

That means the same as 0 in this case

I like to help if I can

[hot gorge]

What about the helpless?

[bright ermine]

will it improve timeouts if I increase or decrease the value?

[latent sorrel]

fuck em

[hot gorge]

The delay before a client is allowed to connect again after a recent connection attempt. A value of 0 disables the connection throttle but leaves your server susceptible to attacks (only recommended for test servers). (long, milliseconds)
Default: 4000

[latent sorrel]

You talkin bout the optimization manual?

[bright ermine]

timeout:

[latent sorrel]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/any-benefits-for-using-network-compression-threshold.50962/

Tea where can I find this manual? Might have something useful. Always little things to learn

Max that link is for you

[bright ermine]

ty

[latent sorrel]

oh just the normal properties

SRC?

Ive prolly seen it just dunno what that stands for

oof out of my league at that point, but thanks for answering

I can do basic java, like sometimes add a command or small feature to a plugin, but those arguments seem complicated. Dunno where to even put those lol. All good though, so far the documentation for stuff has generally been enough.

ah ok

Im just always lookin for other bits of odd improvements here and there that not many seem to know of

Stuff that aint in the optimization guides and such

went to school for that one

Trade school =/ not college lol

I got my comptia Net+, had all the knowledge to pass A+ but not the money for the test and another odd one ive forgotten the name of

Lots has been lost to time and not using it but I still know enough generally

They paid for the Net+ because I was still in high school at the time doing trade school half the day but then I went for a year as an adult student as well and they dont pay for tests then, even though your paying them a shit ton just to be there

yea right now im just stay at home dad and my certs expired but I do want to get some certs again when I have the cash

Plan to get my Net+, A+, and a bunch of the misc Microsoft / amazon cloud ones and such

Yea I did know quite a lot of it before the classes

ahh all thats left before my server can go live is super annoying stuff

[bright ermine]

http://prntscr.com/og1dp0

Is there a way to fix this? I am using a travertine

Even tho when you join it it's fine but that X is killing me lmao

[lapis sequoia]

my players are assholes.. 😭 albeit my fault for selling spawners on the shop

[latent sorrel]

Max, I have never seen whatever that means. Golden, dear god.

Did you need to break out the fire extinguisher?

[lapis sequoia]

https://timings.aikar.co/?id=2e089d7916f0454e8a79fc0795f687b0

ye servers on fire

[pulsar wigeon]

looks like someone's breaking tos 🙃

[lapis sequoia]

😂

[latent sorrel]

He didnt say real money shop, could be event coins

[lapis sequoia]

no the /shop in-game

im selling them ingame

oof

[pulsar wigeon]

psh, a likely story

[latent sorrel]

Honestly I have no idea how to read that timings thing. I also couldnt figure out how to set it up when I tried

[vestal jasper]

[latent sorrel]

See, the trick is that he sells the money for real money. 50k = $5

[lapis sequoia]

ah ya got me @latent sorrel

then i get dumb emails like this

[latent sorrel]

Does anyone know where I might be able to find what all these different essentialsX modules do? The download page doesnt tell me and the wiki is essentially empty. Some of them have clear enough names that I can guess what aspects it handles but some are just random letters.

dang thats a lot of money

[latent sorrel]

nvm

[bright ermine]

@lapis sequoia Damn u balling out

@golden gust Would it be possible to fix this? http://prntscr.com/og1dp0

[lapis sequoia]

if this is what a single survival server can do, then I can't imagine what those bigger networks are making

[bright ermine]

gold you even make more money than my modded servers lmao

[lapis sequoia]

😂

[latent sorrel]

Herocraft used to bring in insane money before Kainzo ruined it

[lapis sequoia]

I think it's because minecraft is becoming popular again and that the kids that originally grew up with it now have jobs and stuff

so $

[golden gust]

afaik if you point it to the real modded server it should work

We can't really do much about that otherwise

[bright ermine]

yeah I am

as a forced host

[lapis sequoia]

eula can suck my ass for now, they dont do shit about the bigger networks that clearly break it so eh, if i get yeeted, so be it

[golden gust]

do you have forge support enabled too?

[bright ermine]

ye

[latent sorrel]

I just want a steady population and for my current connection and hardware to hold up. If it ever gets popular enough to outgrow my setup, hopefully people will donate to support at that time.

[burnt sail]

@lapis sequoia Just optimize the server some more

[latent sorrel]

MORE RAM

[lapis sequoia]

entity-activation-rage is at 1

i literally cannot

[bright ermine]

lmao

[burnt sail]

You can

[lapis sequoia]

mob stacking time

xD

[burnt sail]

MeRgEd SpAwNeRs

[lapis sequoia]

players are gonna hate mee

[latent sorrel]

Which plugin? The only nice mob stacking plugin I know of causes terrible lag with the way it works. There was a community fix but it was never updated

[bright ermine]

yeah gold I hate u

jk

[lapis sequoia]

❤ u too

[burnt sail]

same

[lapis sequoia]

i need more friends so

[burnt sail]

Wow

[lapis sequoia]

feel free

xD

go away hattie

[burnt sail]

wow

[latent sorrel]

I hate how every plugin config file has a different format for mysql. Some are just user and pass, some need 'user' 'pass' some need "user" "pass" and so on

makes it so annoying when one wont connect and I gotta try em all

[lapis sequoia]

oof, i remember tying to figure out how grief prevention hooked into sql for the longest time

[latent sorrel]

There I finally got the last one that ive been ignoring since it didnt matter

I hook every mod that works with mysql up to it

[lapis sequoia]

sql is bae

[latent sorrel]

Having a big server golden, do you recommend playing under a different name than you use for admin stuff? I can make it happen with nicknames and always wearing armor when I do admin stuff to hide the skin.

[lapis sequoia]

for playing? yes i usually interact with my players using an alt account

gives me a feel of what i need to improve and such

for general admin stuff, i just stay in vanish 😂

[bright ermine]

@lapis sequoia send me ur store link to ur server

[latent sorrel]

Don't got an alt but I can set a nickname that doesn't show its a nickname and the armor thing

Ill look into an easy macro to do it fast

[bright ermine]

I need some ideas on how to make more money XD

[latent sorrel]

(Dont do it)

[lapis sequoia]

👀

[latent sorrel]

Wow that was the longest typing for that lol

[bright ermine]

ikr LMAO

[latent sorrel]

Did you need to find it in the list?

[lapis sequoia]

ya had a speech typed out, decided against it

[bright ermine]

guy was writing an essay but turned out to write an emoji

[lapis sequoia]

ye

aha

[latent sorrel]

I do that a lot

tend to go on by mistake

[lapis sequoia]

I was just saying like, its bad to copy off other servers ideas, its generally frowned apon, if you can make your server unique, then the donations will come naturally

[latent sorrel]

yea kinda rude to ask like that

[bright ermine]

yeah you are correct

[latent sorrel]

(This is where he instead asks for the name of the server)

[lapis sequoia]

xD

[bright ermine]

I already found it lmao on a server list but can't find the store

[latent sorrel]

big oof

[lapis sequoia]

all im gonna say is that crate keys are basically gambling which people enjoy

[latent sorrel]

oh yea, crates were the money maker on Herocraft too

that and exp boosts