general

[dapper nacelle]

if I want to make a new spell...

[stiff yarrow]

( /s )

[dapper nacelle]

https://github.com/JustDylan23/Wands/tree/master/src/main/java/me/dylan/wands/spell/handler

I implement one of these into a new enum

[void void]

oh boy

[stiff yarrow]

[dapper nacelle]

they all extend Behaviour.java

[stiff yarrow]

sanity check dylan

do you think your design is good or bad

[dapper nacelle]

good

[stiff yarrow]

[void void]

[vestal jasper]

[dapper nacelle]

these contain the logic to execute a spell

[stiff yarrow]

this looks like advanced tech debt to me

next level technical debt

[dapper nacelle]

the enums implement one of these handlers

and they use a builder

[void void]

i think we all need to take a step back, and just walk away from this one fellas

this is dangerous

[dapper nacelle]

and thus one type of behaviour can be executed with like different particles etc.

[stiff yarrow]

I don't understand the way in which you are utilizing ENUMs tbh but that's a whole nother topic

[dapper nacelle]

Enum singletons are the best singleton

[stiff yarrow]

I'm more concerned with the design of like... everything

[dapper nacelle]

I'll explain later

[stiff yarrow]

what will explaining change

[dapper nacelle]

ok I'll ask you how you'd do it later

my mom is asking me to help her with something

brb

[stiff yarrow]

I don't know if we'd have enough time, but I could at least tell you why you shouldn't do things like this

[void void]

good luck niossrboi

[stiff yarrow]

I don't know where to start

I guess first of all, you shouldn't make every spell a singleton, there are scenarios where one spell could have variables, with this design you can never have that

[marble summit]

cat cut my face up today

[stiff yarrow]

like simple was saying, a spell that levels up

[marble summit]

i have like 10 bandages on my face

[dapper nacelle]

my spells can't level up

[marble summit]

Also got Super Mario Maker 2 earlier

[dapper nacelle]

they have set behaviour

its for a minigame

[marble summit]

100% Completed story moder

and am nearly b rank on versus

[stiff yarrow]

alright but why are they stored in a goddamn ENUM

[void void]

i was wondering why the fuck my calculator was giving me retarded calculations

radian mode

[dapper nacelle]

I have to store spells on an item

and it has to persist through reload

[stiff yarrow]

and?

[void void]

still not hearing a good reason for enum

[dapper nacelle]

so persistent tag container or whatever it was

[stiff yarrow]

?

not following you

[dapper nacelle]

I use a toString and a valueOf

[stiff yarrow]

still not following you

[dapper nacelle]

1 sec

[void void]

this is turning sad

[stiff yarrow]

does this explanation ever get to why they are being stored in ENUMs

that's mostly what I was asking

[dapper nacelle]

I use PersistentDataContainer to store spells

[stiff yarrow]

what is that? your own type?

link it

[dapper nacelle]

no

its a spigot thing

[stiff yarrow]

not familiar with that

[dapper nacelle]

https://github.com/JustDylan23/Wands/blob/master/src/main/java/me/dylan/wands/util/ItemUtil.java#L42

[stiff yarrow]

but still don't get why it has to be an enum

that uses generics

[void void]

why is everything i've seen so far a fucking singleton

oh no

[dapper nacelle]

util classes are technically not singleton

[void void]

that's a static utility class

ok

[dapper nacelle]

are you shitting on static util classes too now?

[stiff yarrow]

private static final Main plugin = Main.getPlugin();

[dapper nacelle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/persistence/PersistentDataHolder.html

[void void]

(still not seeing why enum)

[dapper nacelle]

alright

the types PersistentDataContainer provides are stuff like int, boolean, String

just the basic stuff I can store on an Item

[stiff yarrow]

not from what I'm seeing

can you link to the specific thing you are using

[dapper nacelle]

sure

in the docs?

[stiff yarrow]

either

[dapper nacelle]

https://github.com/JustDylan23/Wands/blob/master/src/main/java/me/dylan/wands/spell/SpellManagementUtil.java#L31

this is in my code

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/persistence/PersistentDataType.html

[void void]

[dapper nacelle]

I can only store one of these types

unless I make my own

[void void]

ok so you store strings, awesome

still not seeing why enum

[dapper nacelle]

because of the valueOf() method

[stiff yarrow]

@dapper nacelle I'm glancing over this thing in Bukkit but it seems like you could store anything

[dapper nacelle]

I heard it was exported to nbt

[void void]

im rapidly losing braincells, have fun nossr

[dapper nacelle]

I have 2 type of enums which one are we talking about

[stiff yarrow]

it seems like PersistentDataType supports whatever you want it to, but I haven't used it myself, I'm just looking over the docs

[dapper nacelle]

well

imagine I store a class in it

and I change the behaviour of that class but the old class is still stored

it won't change with it

storing a string which I use as index in it is lighter

[stiff yarrow]

you'd want to store state not the class itself ideally

[dapper nacelle]

basically

[stiff yarrow]

hows this relate to ENUMs holding your spell singletons again

[dapper nacelle]

SpellType?

or any emum that implements <? extends Behaviour>?

[cosmic raft]

<- me when I see nossr writing enum in all caps

[dapper nacelle]

tbh same

[void void]

he's applying emphasis because we're fucking confused

[stiff yarrow]

nah I have a habit of writing it in capitals

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/persistence/PersistentDataContainer.html <-- this seems like it supports any type to me

[dapper nacelle]

my code structure is too complicated to just dive into and shit on

[stiff yarrow]

it doesn't seem complicated

[void void]

it's just a mess

[stiff yarrow]

I believe I have a good understanding of it from just seeing a few classes

[dapper nacelle]

alright, I'll ask you guys how to do it then.

what if you need to have spells that you can bind onto an item

spells can have similar behaviour

[stiff yarrow]

you don't need to store an instance of anything in an ENUM

that's what I was getting at

if you want to store a "Spell" in an item, just store a unique identifier for the spell and make the instance as needed in your code somewhere, doesn't need to be in the ENUM

[dapper nacelle]

I forgot to push on my desktop at my other home so I kinda can't edit the code

[stiff yarrow]

since your spells are always doing the same thing all you need to do is store a unique identifier

otherwise I'd suggest storing state

but there is no state

[dapper nacelle]

I'd have to manually make an id

[stiff yarrow]

yes, but the id could be whatever you want it to be

it could be the name of the spell if no two spells share a name

[void void]

UUID class: "am i a joke to you"

[dapper nacelle]

no 2 spells share a name indeed

[stiff yarrow]

it could be an magic numbers, for example enums

but nowhere do you need to store an instance of the spell in an ENUM

just to be clear

[dapper nacelle]

enums are just easier to read so that's why I choose it

I used to do it with and ID

I had the plugin generate them for me

but I ran into an issue

[stiff yarrow]

specifically the thing that seemed ??? was storing an instance of your spell objects in their respective enums

that was very ???

I don't understand that kind of data structure

[dapper nacelle]

if I want to have like 3 spells that shoot a wave of particles it'd be logical to make a class which handles the wave and give it a builder and instantiate it somewhere to set stuff like particles of the wave in the classes who implement it

[stiff yarrow]

alright but what does that have to do with storing an instance of a spell in an enum that acts as a magic number for said spell

[dapper nacelle]

well

[stiff yarrow]

I think you are overthinking what I'm saying

[dapper nacelle]

stop typing for a second and give me space to explain

[void void]

[dapper nacelle]

you have your WaveSpell extends Behaviour which contains a nested builder class

[stiff yarrow]

maybe I'm just not wording it correctly

[dapper nacelle]

you need to have a wave that has a poison effect, a wave which sets everything it crosses on fire and a wave which pushes entities away

[hybrid crest]

i have lag

un paperspigot 1.14.3

[limber knot]

@hybrid crest [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

[dapper nacelle]

all those waves have unique behaviour to eachother

[void void]

you keep explaining what the class does but not why you're doing it that way

[dapper nacelle]

and the behaviour never changes

[stiff yarrow]

I'm not talking about singletons though

[dapper nacelle]

so Enum PoisonWave implements WaveSpell will never change its behaviour

[stiff yarrow]

I'm asking why you are storing an instance of the class in the related enum

literally just asking "why are you storing this here"

[dapper nacelle]

why not use a singleton if it's pointless to instantiate it multiple times

[stiff yarrow]

I'm not talking about singletons

I'm literally talking about the place you chose to store it

[dapper nacelle]

why I am storing it in SpellType?

[stiff yarrow]

why are you storing it

in an enum

[dapper nacelle]

the instance?

[stiff yarrow]

yes that is what I have said more or less

[cosmic raft]

it's an enum singleton pattern

[stiff yarrow]

that's not a real thing right

[cosmic raft]

yes it is

[stiff yarrow]

[cosmic raft]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/26285520/implementing-singleton-with-an-enum-in-java

etc

[dapper nacelle]

Enum singletons are the best singletons

[cosmic raft]

it's basically the same as doing

public final class Foo {
  public static final Foo INSTANCE = new Foo();

  private Foo() {
  }
}

just less boilerplate

[void void]

we know what it is/does the question is and always was why are you doing it that way

[dapper nacelle]

and it's safe against reflections

[stiff yarrow]

against?

[dapper nacelle]

you can't use reflections to instantiate it

unlike singleton classes

[stiff yarrow]

[void void]

[stiff yarrow]

is this some next level defensive programming

[void void]

I can't partake in this anymore

This is killing braincells by the thousands

[vestal jasper]

That sounds pointless.
If someone's going to do stupid shit with your plugin they're going to do it.

[stiff yarrow]

it does seem completely irrelevant tbh

[dapper nacelle]

Why are enum singletons worse than regular singletons

[stiff yarrow]

well regular singletons suck too

[dapper nacelle]

according to you guys

[stiff yarrow]

singleton design pattern

[dapper nacelle]

enum singletons are just less verbose

[void void]

they aren't bad in principal it's when you use it to design your entire fuckin application that we call it into question

[stiff yarrow]

tbh enum singletons do seem worse at a glance

seem more limiting

[dapper nacelle]

its a god damn singleton, don't you even dare bring up how limiting it is

that's what its supposed to do

[void void]

dont you dare, nossr

[dapper nacelle]

its not like have time to write a json parser and instead of hardcoding put everything in json

[void void]

what about your objects signals to you that you'd need to write a custom parser

ever heard of gson

you're using basic types

nothing complex

[dapper nacelle]

in a way everything is build up from basic types

[void void]

Wasn't even my point

[dapper nacelle]

but if I have to store particles in json

[void void]

You just deflect and deflect and deflect

[dapper nacelle]

that'd be like so painful

[void void]

[cosmic raft]

you know what is painful?

this conversation

[void void]

[dapper nacelle]

because we're clearly viewing this differently

[void void]

yes, on fundamentally different levels of experience

Tea that better be bait

[dapper nacelle]

tell me then if I had a wave spell that emits poison and I need to bind it to an item, how would you do it

where do I put my hard code if not in a singleton? @void void

there needs to be some level of hard code just like when coding a GUI

[slim relic]

Guys legit question, how tf do I give myself custom player heads if /give @p player_head{SkullOwner:<name>} doesn't work??

[dapper nacelle]

I still don't know how the 1.13 command system works

[void void]

sorry i have legitimately lost too many braincells to continue this

am 2 go watch numbing youtube

[slim relic]

but am not getting anything >:(

[vestal jasper]

/give @p minecraft:player_head{SkullOwner:{Id:"b3dc19fe-5fbf-4f12-94c2-c4c45233811e"}} 1

[slim relic]

oh, you need the ID?

[void void]

has the person played on your server before

[slim relic]

it's me..

[void void]

idk then do id

[vestal jasper]

doesn't seem to work

mfw

[void void]

nvm

[slim relic]

nope

[void void]

[slim relic]

nothing happens what da heck

[void void]

am 2 now proceed to dance to 22

[vestal jasper]

https://minecraft-heads.com/custom-heads/heads-generator

this should work

[slim relic]

Tea there's a saying that goes like if you have nothing smart to say, shut up

[stiff yarrow]

@dapper nacelle I was wrong about enum singletons

I apologize

[dapper nacelle]

no

you creep

[slim relic]

@vestal jasper yeah, I went there first hand

[stiff yarrow]

I still think its a bit odd the way you are doing things, but I was wrong to criticize the enum singleton pattern, apparently it does seem like if you were to implement singleton, this is the way to do it. I was not familiar with this particular design pattern

[dapper nacelle]

UwU

nothing more to comment

[void void]

nossr please report to the local gallows for your execution

mandated by the programming community

[stiff yarrow]

@void void if you're going to use singleton, it makes sense to do it this way after reading about it

[void void]

i don't use singletons enough to even care about it

but nice

[stiff yarrow]

dylan had an unusual way of explaining himself that made it difficult to see any validity in this approach

but I have become more educated

[void void]

who said anything is wrong with const

[dapper nacelle]

nossr, are you agreeing with me on some level?

I am writing my code structure in a word file atm

[stiff yarrow]

if you're doing singletons, enum singletons appear to be correct

[dapper nacelle]

so you can understand it with one look

[stiff yarrow]

I avoid singletons like the plague though, but if you are positive singleton pattern is correct for your spells in your plugin, only you can really know that

and if you are positive, then what you are doing is fine

in that regard

[dapper nacelle]

I'm positive

[stiff yarrow]

since you said its a minigame plugin and not something where players can level up or have much effect on spells, I will just have to assume you thought this out and are approaching it correctly

[dapper nacelle]

The spells are basically static

[void void]

https://puu.sh/DNcIG/bf053bfb19.png

[dapper nacelle]

the player can advance by getting new spells

[void void]

https://puu.sh/DNcJ8/930fa366d4.png

[stiff yarrow]

then I don't see anything wrong with that approach

[dapper nacelle]

Behaviour
public abstract boolean cast(Player player);
ProjectileSpell extends Behaviour
ProjectileSpell handles the mechanics for shooting projectiles and executing

• Comet – shoots fireball which explodes on hit
• Lightning arrow – shoots arrow which emits lightning on hit
• Ice arrow – freezes entity it hits

the behaviour of for example Comet will never change

[void void]

wtf i was jamming to this song and i looked at the artist and it's fucking miranda cosgrove

🤢

[dapper nacelle]

+1

[void void]

OH FUCK https://puu.sh/DNcMr/29dd275d29.png

Also

It's megan from drake and josh you heathens

iCarly

whatever

[dapper nacelle]

nossr, what I potentially wanted to do with the project in the future is add a system for learning new spells

[void void]

spotify getting it right rn

[dapper nacelle]

and maybe add like a mana cost for spells

[stiff yarrow]

I assume the spells won't change though?

[dapper nacelle]

but I can configure that in spell type

nope spells won't change

[stiff yarrow]

then it is fine

[dapper nacelle]

a spell can just be a weaker spell and stay that way

[stiff yarrow]

but not a weaker version of an existing spell, right?

[dapper nacelle]

no

[stiff yarrow]

yeah that is fine

[dapper nacelle]

if there was a stronger version I'd also change stuff like particles

and it becomes a different spell

[stiff yarrow]

I would say you planned it out well, but its definitely not something I would expect from the start of the project to be so certain about how the spells will work

I guess you just planned quite thoroughly

which is good

[dapper nacelle]

I got help from

@fallen jungle

credits to him

lol sorry about tag pls don't kill me

[vestal jasper]

.kill @dapper nacelle

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) I can't attack that.

[vestal jasper]

mfw

[dapper nacelle]

[vestal jasper]

what were the commands again

[dapper nacelle]

We learn documenting the customer's wishes at school and I carefully wrote it out

stuff like making

functional design, technical design, project plan, schedule of requirements

documenting your own project is fun

true

there are functional and technical requirements

its a pain to explain the difference

[fallen jungle]

PING

[dapper nacelle]

a functional requirement is basically a requirement about what something should do

and a technical requirement is how something should do something

but the where to draw the line is difficult between those two requirements

I practice both OOP and functional programming

[void void]

now we're being taught project management

[dapper nacelle]

oh fuck, that's right I was supposed to work on my website about an hour ago

back to the gates of hell which is a javascript framework I guess

[vestal jasper]

/s/is a javascript framework/is javascript/

mfw I think I did it wrong

[void void]

it's just s/

but doesnt work in discord

[vestal jasper]

rip

double rip

[stiff yarrow]

@dapper nacelle anyways, you have my apologies, your design is not typical and I thought there was a high possibility you were approaching it wrong in part because of the unusual statements you made about various things relating to programming before you linked your project, I understand now that you planned it out well

[dapper nacelle]

lol

apology accepted I guess

[stiff yarrow]

[void void]

[vestal jasper]

I really hope I nuked my old rpg plugin out of orbit

[dapper nacelle]

simple, join the praise dylan's code structure club

[vestal jasper]

oh good I did

[dapper nacelle]

[stiff yarrow]

and now I will probably go to sleep

[dapper nacelle]

good night

have sweet enum singleton dreams

[stiff yarrow]

singletons

[dapper nacelle]

linting be like after pulling

npm run lint --fix

[vestal jasper]

background images

[dapper nacelle]

its readable for me

[heavy rapids]

javascript 🤢

[dapper nacelle]

have the game not the player

[vestal jasper]

the player picks the game

[dapper nacelle]

its better than the plain old ide theme

[heavy rapids]

no

[dapper nacelle]

no my school decided that learning javascript is good

[heavy rapids]

both your school and your taste in IDE style suck, then :P

[vestal jasper]

wait megadeth is touring near me on the 11th

also mfw doxing myself

[heavy rapids]

Vic look out for white vans 😏

[vestal jasper]

[heavy rapids]

@atomic marten YES

[dapper nacelle]

Imagine being a front end developer 👊😂👌💯

[vestal jasper]

Mfw I get paid on the 11th

I won't be able to get tickets on time

[limber knot]

any know dup exploits in 626?

i mean 636

[heavy rapids]

Vim is love

[vestal jasper]

All 2019 tour dates have been postponed due to injury.

[heavy rapids]

no, colorscheme torte

[vestal jasper]

date rescheduled to July 11, 2020

oh ok cool

I have a year to save up the like $20 it'll cost

[heavy rapids]

I'm not doing folding ¯_(ツ)_/¯

if your code needs folding, imho your file is too large

[limber knot]

Or rather, should I say, are you aware of any duplication exploits in Paper-636, since I have someone reporting one.

[vestal jasper]

depends on what kind of dupe exploit

dupe anything or dupe something like carpets

[heavy rapids]

kludge, you should report it to the devs anyways (at least if it's credible / you can reproduce the behavior)

[limber knot]

Well, can't really reproduce the behavior, that's why I'm asking.

[heavy rapids]

are you sure there's no plugin interference with the reported behavior?

[limber knot]

Server owner says they are somehow duping from AuctionHouse but it seems not an AH issue

[heavy rapids]

i.e. could be a buggy plugin

[limber knot]

Has many plugins

[heavy rapids]

especially if it relates to duping stuff from inventories

plugins may very well not work that well together.

[limber knot]

Is there any way if they manage to glitch an inventory item into their client side, to get it back to the server side?

[heavy rapids]

yes kluge, if the plugins are bad

[limber knot]

Define bad.

[vestal jasper]

The plugin should insert NBT into the items and then remove the items from the player's inventory

or something along those lines

to detect GUI items

[heavy rapids]

I use lore for that, ItemFactory.banItem(stack), boom, it can't be obtained.

[vestal jasper]

that's assuming the plugin with the GUI isn't trash though

[heavy rapids]

[11:29] BOTklugemonkey: Define bad.

bugged

[limber knot]

My plugin, so not bad.

[heavy rapids]

well

[vestal jasper]

well

[heavy rapids]

with that attitude

my own plugins would be the first ones under scrutiny

because I'm a retard and the only tester is me

[limber knot]

But the issue is that any inventory, it's possible to Shift-Click the item from the top part to the lower part.

And if the TPS is high, its easier

[stiff yarrow]

@cosmic raft wanna see mine

[heavy rapids]

it being related to TPS sounds like a race condition

[cosmic raft]

sure nossr

[limber knot]

why you say that?

Just gives them more time to get it over to the client.

[heavy rapids]

because race conditions are the type of bug that show different behavior based on execution timings.

[stiff yarrow]

Hikki NEET club

[heavy rapids]

so that'd be the first guess I'd take

[limber knot]

Wondering if once on the client (not on the server), is it possible for them with a hacked client to get it back to the server in some real form.

[heavy rapids]

kluge, I would recommend replicating it on vanilla, to make sure it's not one of your plugins.

[limber knot]

I can't replicate on vanilla.

[heavy rapids]

can you replicate on paper w/o plugins

[limber knot]

Can't even replicate on similar test environment.

[heavy rapids]

is the reporter able to replicate it?

[limber knot]

But it was reported on Paper-626 running with ViaVersion on bungeecord.

And anytime I see a bug with ViaVersion involved, well....

[heavy rapids]

again, it might be two plugins handling inventory events that don't work well together.

your best bet would be finding a way to consistently reproduce the behavior

once you've got that, you can start probing around what causes it.

[limber knot]

I've done some changes to my side, really being non-intrusive and setting it to highest now. Maybe that will help.

Yeh, but even the server owner doesn't have a clue how they are doing it.

Which scares me.

[heavy rapids]

did the person who duped the item report it, or were they caught

[limber knot]

Caught having items in their inventory, but maybe that's just a false positive. Not sure

[heavy rapids]

items that they can not obtain in any other way?

[limber knot]

Usually, if you checking for something in their inventory, it's server side, right?

[heavy rapids]

yes

[limber knot]

Yeh, items from the AH menu

[heavy rapids]

mh

Can you coerce them into telling you how they did it (threaten a ban or something)

[limber knot]

I know I can get the items to the client side, but it's always a ghost item

I've explained to owner, unless we can get steps as to how to reproduce, I can't make any assumption that it is plugin specific, could also be Paper or Viaversion or interaction with multiple plugins using inventories

[heavy rapids]

so, causes of this that I can think of:

a) the plugin responsible for cancelling the inventory action throwing before cancelling (-> stacktrace in console)
b) plugin A cancels, plugin B uncancels even though it shouldn't (-> hard to find unless you've got the source for every plugin available)
c) server implementation bug

my money's on b)

oh, also d) plugin with bug that prevents cancelling

e.g. cancels only if condition X holds, but X does not always hold.

[limber knot]

ok, then me changing it back from HIGH to HIGHEST should help

dudes also running LWC, ChestShop and BossShopPro

are there any hacked clients that can take a ghost item in the hot bar and make it real?

[heavy rapids]

[11:50] BOTklugemonkey: ok, then me changing it back from HIGH to HIGHEST should help
Changing what.

[void void]

ok is time for sleep

3:24am

[quaint briar]

im really bad at admining

ive got the 1.12.2 server

what mods can I use with it?

[vestal jasper]

@static badge

Helper: when i tp to the spotted person I can't find them

[heavy rapids]

would anyone be willing to help me check if I setup my PGP mail correctly

nvm afk for two hours

[heavy rapids]

ok, would anyone be willing to help me check if I setup my PGP mail correctly? :D

[tardy bridge]

Hi! Mb smbd here can help me. I am trying to make quest items via tags and scoreboards, but I have a problem. I want item to be completely dummy. By dummy I mean that I cannot be used in crafts or placed or be involved in any other activity. I want to make item which only function is to be in inventory. Will appreciate any help

[strange bane]

#paper-dev Also, send the item through a packet rather than adding it to the inventory?

BTW nothing beats finishing a big web project and then having it work good enough on Internet Explorer. xD I'll happily take the 2% extra potential users.

I'm yet to test Safari, but I have basically nothing Apple.

Wow, I didn't even think to check Firefox because it's kinda like "if it works in Chrome, it'll work in Firefox" but there's more visual issues with in than IE. 😮

[golden gust]

Yea, firefox is honestly leveling with IE these days with stupid flags

[strange bane]

All good, I switched max-width to min-width and now Firefox looks a lot better. So strange,

[golden gust]

Then again, pretty much all of the web engines have their own stupid branded flags and stuff

[unreal quarry]

Solution: make a new browser that does things better than all others

.g xkcd standards

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://xkcd.com/927/ -- Standards - xkcd: "Permanent link to this comic: https://xkcd.com/927/ Image URL (for hotlinking/embedding): https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png. HOW..."

xkcd: Standards

Fortunately, the charging one has been solved now that we've all standardized on mini-USB. Or is it micro-USB? Shit.

[strange bane]

I always think of Chrome as that, but it's not fair because I develop using Chrome so obviously it's going to support what I'm doing.

[limber knot]

chromium is the defacto default browser engine

sadly firefox is the default browser at work

plus plenty of ppl use ie here

[heavy rapids]

remember IE was the default browser for a long time

[limber knot]

but I straight up refuse to support ie

[heavy rapids]

and still people were hated for only supporting IE

[limber knot]

like, the preview for our cms I wrote doesn't work in ie

I develop with chrome at work too

[heavy rapids]

a software monopoly with small competitors will always lead to EEE

so I'd prefer a oligopoly.

[golden gust]

I mean, they literally nuked edge

[pulsar wigeon]

literally

nuked ☢

🔥

[obsidian belfry]

Edge insider

[pulsar wigeon]

nuke it ☢

[obsidian belfry]

why

[pulsar wigeon]

🚮

[obsidian belfry]

[heavy rapids]

I'll try out edge once they publish linux builds

[pulsar wigeon]

anything that runs on chromium 🚮

yes, discord included

🚮

[heavy rapids]

welcome grandson sanderpop

[strange bane]

Ughh, I tested Safari and it was super broken.

[golden gust]

.rekt

[limber knot]

☑ REKT-al cancer

[finite wave]

Safari broken?

[strange bane]

Hmm, Safari does seem to have full flexbox support.

How do I even test it on Windows?

[pulsar wigeon]

VM?

don't support 🚮 ?

[strange bane]

Yeah, I'll try to find an ISO.

[hot gorge]

Think a Raspberry Pi 4 would host a small MC server okay?

[pulsar wigeon]

some people try it anyway

[heavy rapids]

lmao, local satire publication: "After Trump's visit to North Korea his attitude has drastically changed" with that image

[hot gorge]

the 4gb model is compelling

[heady spear]

Host? Sure. Okay? Debatable.

[hot gorge]

I'm talking a vanilla server with MAYBE 15 players

[pulsar wigeon]

that's quite a few players lol

[heady spear]

wiz can't even count to 15

[hot gorge]

No 1.13.2 currently

the new Pi 4 is quite speedy

paper obv

I would NEVER run a vanilla server. I meant as close to vanilla with out crazy plugins and such

[tardy lynx]

Pi 3B+ ran 10 players fine with 1.12

[pulsar wigeon]

1.12

that's not even comparable

[hot gorge]

indeed

I just think it would be cool if I could get it running on a pi 4 and just toss it in my network closet

Yeah it was just a conversational question

[vestal jasper]

I'd personally wait out until someone actually tries it before I form stronger opinions on it

[hot gorge]

stare at Ryzen 1800x

Me either lol

[fallen oracle]

Maybe Moajng wants us to think that we need better hardware to stabilize the servers. Has anyone tried a windows Vista computer lately?

Maybe that's the solution to 20TPS

[heavy rapids]

performs exorcism on that idea

[golden gust]

I mean, if you host on a pi you're either going to need a ton of microsd cards or an external hdd or something

At the point that you've gotten the pieces together to put a pi together with the storage and stuff needed (noting that there are still hefty bottlenecks with a pi), you probably coulda just spent the cash on some used desktop or something, saved a few bucks, and have a more capable machine

[tropic flame]

seems legit

skips 106 ticks, current TPS 20

[golden gust]

TPS is a bad metric

[finite wave]

It always skip ticks

No need to worry

[strange bane]

My god, Safari's developer tools suck but hey, managed to fix most things. =D It isn't able to do sequenced CSS transitions though.

It some how transitions in the wrong order.

[limber knot]

I'm cutting back 95% of my caffeine intake

and boys, it's not fun

[strange bane]

How much is 95%?

[fallen oracle]

So, no more coffee?

[finite wave]

I'm upping my alcohol intake by 50% and boy it is fun

[limber knot]

well I no longer drink nearly 3 liters of coke zero a day

I just have an espresso in the morning

instead of the three I used to get

atop the soda

everything feels very sluggish

and heavy

[fallen oracle]

That's disgusting

Your poor teeth.

[limber knot]

actually I've never had tooth issues

only thing I ever had to do was remove a wisdom tooth

[fallen oracle]

Hmm, okay.

I quit drinking soda almost a year ago

[limber knot]

I was using it as a crutch to get past my exams

[fallen oracle]

Bleh. A little cocaine and some coffee never hurts.

[finite wave]

Alcohol raises energy too

[tropic flame]

I guess this is why TPS is a bad metric

[finite wave]

Well

That seems weird

Did it skip too many?

[limber knot]

I wonder how long it'll take before I get back to normal energy levels without caffeine

or largely without it I guess

[tropic flame]

skipped 103 ticks, and then skipped 278 😅

[limber knot]

last time it took about two weeks

[tropic flame]

this wasn't happening in 1.13.2

was just trying that 1.14.3 build

[fallen oracle]

I switched from energy drinks to GFUEL

[limber knot]

that sounds worse

[tropic flame]

lmao do you use pewdiepie's discount code

[limber knot]

gj

[tropic flame]

Pewds has a discount code for gfuel

[vestal jasper]

if your cat boops your arm with his paw you're legally obligated to pet it

[limber knot]

oh so that's what you're supposed to do

[finite wave]

Not if the claw is out

[limber knot]

I've been hitting it back twice as hard

[vestal jasper]

mfw

[limber knot]

show who the real alpha male is

[fallen oracle]

J don't drink it every day

I have like a cup a week

I used to spend like $20 a week on energy drinks

[limber knot]

cheap

[fallen oracle]

I've spent $60 on GFUEL in 4 months.

I only spend when it's BOGO

[limber knot]

I was probably on closer to 30usd a week

[fallen oracle]

I started getting my life in a better shape over the past few months so I worked hard to cut out a bunch of stuff.

[limber knot]

but then again soda is much more expensive here

[fallen oracle]

I've lost so much weight, and I feel so good.

[hot gorge]

wait paper is at 1.14.3?

[golden gust]

Yes

There was no announcement on discord, I kinda forgot to post one and then it got a bit shaky

[hot gorge]

oh

so keep waiting?

[golden gust]

That's been fixed

It's still 1.14, however

[pulsar wigeon]

[limber knot]

Hi everyone! I have an issue with "boat overwriting", causing the server to freeze. It looks similar to the issue reported here: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper/issues/1871

Running the latest version of Paper. Here is my staxck trace: https://dpaste.de/dfn5

Does anyone know what could cause this, or how I could fix it? Aikar, in the comments, you imply it's a known issue?

I believe it's "known" in that there is something potentially odd going on in there

Strange... I removed two boats at the coordinates given in the log and then when I restarted the server, they were still not there -- until I let the players back on! Suddenly, one of the boats appeared again.

[golden gust]

is the boat 20 miles from the player or something?

[limber knot]

The coordinates are 5518871 62 5536400. I'm not sure if that's the furthest anyone has explored the world, but it's definitely quite far away.

There's no player in the "spawned" boat, from what I can see, but... Maybe there is?

[golden gust]

Well, that confirms what my thought on some of that mess is

[limber knot]

There's one player that seems to be the issue. Let me save the data file, but remove it from the playerdata folder.

[golden gust]

It's basically down to how the server processes movements and things like dismounting entities, etc; It ends up seeing that as a single player movement

[limber knot]

That seems to have solved it!! The player entered again, and the server did not freeze. The boat is still there.

[golden gust]

https://twitter.com/climagic/status/1145723092771254272

Command Line Magic (@climagic)

gunzip when the partition is nearly full https://t.co/VkjbDjCpJl

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[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) @climagic (Command Line Magic): gunzip when the partition is nearly full https://t.co/VkjbDjCpJl (27 minutes and 46 seconds ago)

[tropic flame]

isn't it funny when the game crashes when you press Quit or click on the X button

[fallen oracle]

Good meme, cat.

[cosmic raft]

yawn

[woven otter]

yawn

[golden gust]

yawn almost moves #general

[limber knot]

yawn

[upper flicker]

yawn

[pulsar wigeon]

pawn

[woven otter]

dawn

[pulsar wigeon]

hey look, a talking duck

[woven otter]

quack quack you're fat

[finite wave]

Rude

[golden gust]

quack quack you gotta be on crack

[limber knot]

humps electronicboy

[woven otter]

quack quack what the fuck

[pulsar wigeon]

is it just me or is discord being slow again today intermittently

[spiral garden]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

haven't used discord much today so can't tell

[woven otter]

haven't noticed

maybe it's you

[cedar spade]

yawn

[woven otter]

https://i.imgur.com/g0aJMea.png
please reorder

[golden gust]

It's subliminal messaging

[woven otter]

kms

[merry talon]

every time I hear that term I just think of 'SEX' written on ice cubes in a drink

[upper flicker]

Have to promote someone else to avoid subliminal messages like that

[merry talon]

I had a whole unit on subliminal messaging in school and that was one of the few they showed us

[pulsar wigeon]

clearly paper just needs more or less contributors

[cosmic raft]

fixed

[pulsar wigeon]

what's "akm"

[limber knot]

[cosmic raft]

yes

[heavy rapids]

"sex" written on ice cubes
subliminal messaging

pick one

[woven otter]

should've made it into traffic light

[pulsar wigeon]

should have renamed leaf to "UP"

[stray wing]

I'm thirsty man I don't have time to read ice cubes

[robust quest]

Oh my...

[woven otter]

taco hater 😠

[upper flicker]

I probably should take 'dumb' off the taco hater role

It just blocks access from that channel for those who post burritos and other non-tacos

[worn narwhal]

taco haters are dumb though

[robust quest]

taco-hater-that-is-dumb

[worn narwhal]

very apt name if you ask me

[robust quest]

dumb-hater-of-tacos

[worn narwhal]

is taces a portmanteau of "taco races"

because it seems appropriate if so

[robust quest]

I like the mysterious 🔥 role.

[cosmic raft]

also

[robust quest]

Notorious as being a flamer?

[cosmic raft]

Happy Canada Day

[robust quest]

🇨🇦

[quasi valley]

happy leaf day

[fallen oracle]

No loser

[tranquil bone]

Something is going on

and I'm losing my shit

[finite wave]

Big dick bois

[fallen oracle]

ADHD stands for A Dangerously Huge Dick

[woven otter]

snips

[finite wave]

Hmm

[quasi valley]

A Dangerously Huge Duck

[finite wave]

Kenny has the the other ADHD

[quasi valley]

what is even happening

[woven otter]

yes

[cosmic raft]

http://imgur.com/gallery/nNqZBS6

[quasi valley]

probably because it's Canada Day

[finite wave]

Duck

[pulsar wigeon]

that duck looks both content and awkward simultaneously

[woven otter]

that's one lucky duck

[golden gust]

Literally a no name brand lol

[finite wave]

Lol

[limber knot]

https://timings.aikar.co/?id=3998240ff1ff4731a1c28916f51259fe

[finite wave]

Stop

[limber knot]

me?

[quasi valley]

the threw a timings report at our faces, let's throw stones back

[finite wave]

Obviously

[quasi valley]

you gotta at least write the obligatory "he ai need hjälp"

[golden gust]

jaaaaa

[limber knot]

Since updating to 1.14 I rarely see 20 tps

[finite wave]

No wonder

[pulsar wigeon]

well, that was your first mistake

[finite wave]

1.14 is thrash

[quasi valley]

every version is trash

[finite wave]

You are thrash

[quasi valley]

that hurt my feelings

[finite wave]

Thrash’s feelings aren’t worth much /s

I’m bored

[pulsar wigeon]

is thrash like, thresh's retarded little brother

[finite wave]

Maybe

[pulsar wigeon]

does he throw hooks and hit himself

[quasi valley]

😂

[wide hazel]

https://i.redd.it/fxgg44qt8p731.jpg

H y p e

Fucking fuck yeah

[vestal jasper]

cat toes

[pulsar wigeon]

and ears

[pulsar wigeon]

hm, your cat toes and ears seem to have legs and a head too

[vestal jasper]

indeed

[placid thicket]

did the thing, now running 120 in prod, wish me luck!

[robust quest]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-patrick-star-im-rooting-for-you-cheer-cheering-gif-5104276

[limber knot]

hi

join #paper-help

[finite wave]

No

[dapper nacelle]

I swear, eating a lasange after coding spaghetti all day long is so refressing

[limber knot]

you know, lasagne is the object orientated way of writing spaghetti code, too many layers ;)

[cosmic raft]

https://twitter.com/Windows/status/1145731141695168512

Windows (@Windows)

Introducing the all-new Windows 1.0, with MS-Dos Executive, Clock, and more!! 😲 💾 https://t.co/guU4QxwsGG

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[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) ✓@Windows (Windows): Introducing the all-new Windows 1.0, with MS-Dos Executive, Clock, and more!! 😲 💾 https://t.co/guU4QxwsGG (2 hours and 51 minutes ago)

[pulsar wigeon]

holy fuck that was loud af

[placid thicket]

right? just blew out my eardrums

[vestal jasper]

phone mic is ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[limber knot]

not loud for me 🤷

[placid thicket]

there is a birbs ass blocking part of my screen right now

[limber knot]

discord sucks

[vestal jasper]

it's not even loud on discord for me

it's loud as fuck on my phone though

anyway, he likes playing catch with his treats

[wide hazel]

okay, so ALL of kangarko's obfuscated plugins screw with my reflections

[finite wave]

What the hell

[wide hazel]

that's nice

[finite wave]

Excuse me

Egg

[wide hazel]

oh

whut

[finite wave]

That’s clearly against the rules

[wicked remnant]

smh copying stuff from our group call

[vestal jasper]

imagine making your avatar an advertisement

[fallen oracle]

Good Guy Demon.

[finite wave]

GGD

[fallen oracle]

Deploying the new IJ update soon

[limber knot]

not using EAP

[finite wave]

Deploying the new win update tonight

[limber knot]

same

didn't know there was one

[finite wave]

Me neither saw some transparent taskbar at my grandmas

[fallen oracle]

My bios is bricked sooo

I guess I still could update

[finite wave]

Hmm

[fallen oracle]

For now, I'ma eat cake

[finite wave]

I need to pee

[fallen oracle]

Not on my cake pls

[finite wave]

I’ll settle for your face

[fallen oracle]

https://media.tenor.com/images/b87ee6032736626702ac5a863c358cb8/tenor.gif

[carmine hinge]

is papermcp still a thing?

[fallen oracle]

Never heard of it, so, probably not.

[vestal jasper]

mfw player ban evades then asks to be unbanned

[wide hazel]

@vestal jasper AltFinder + Anti-VPN 😉

[vestal jasper]

Have both installed but his main was banned months prior to the instllation of altfinder

[golden gust]

gdi

[vestal jasper]

Also altfinder doesn't run on join from what I can tell, which would be a nice feature

[wide hazel]

I'd hope not!

all it needs is a UUID + IP, so runs on async login

[fallen oracle]

Cat, why can't you increase the heap?

[wide hazel]

@vestal jasper out of curiosity, why would you want it to run on join?

[golden gust]

I'm going to, back to 2G

[strange bane]

What were you running?

[vestal jasper]

If a player is banned on an account that's used the same IP the player is using litebans alerts me of such and tells me which accounts used the IP.

I like knowing people's alts without having to explicitly ask for it each time.

[wide hazel]

ah, I see

the problem with that is every time I blink there's a new plugin for chat or admin broadcasts

would be a nightmare to try and support them all

hence, I made an API

[vestal jasper]

Ah, I'll make a lil addon for it then

[wide hazel]

https://github.com/egg82/AltFinder/wiki/API

[vestal jasper]

Oh does the plugin ignore tailing slashes? LiteBans seemingly doesn't for some reason and it's kinda irritating. Forgot to report that to them.

[wide hazel]

?

all it does is store a UUID and IP

[vestal jasper]

127.0.0.1/ 127.0.0.1

I've had instances of this before

[wide hazel]

oh, no, that's just wierd.

[vestal jasper]

Since they don't equal litebans sees them as two difference ips when they're technically the same

[wide hazel]

don't even know how the hell they end up with those

[vestal jasper]

Same

I've only seen it happen once recently

[wide hazel]

but no, it doesn't add any trailing slashes or anything like that to the DB

[vestal jasper]

Oh I think it was a leading slash not a trailing one

[wide hazel]

just takes the IP from the raw socket connection and stores it along with the player's UUID on async join

99.99% sure trailing or leading slashes don't exist in that area

[vestal jasper]

I'll see if I can repro some point because I'm curious

🤔

[wide hazel]

weird

honestly not even sure how the hell that happens

some devs should follow K.I.S.S. methinks

[fallen oracle]

K.I.S.S. M.Y. A.S.S.

[limber knot]

has that pickup line ever worked for you egg

[ornate spindle]

wtf @sturdy fulcrum two updates in a day? are you okay?

[sturdy fulcrum]

haha

[ornate spindle]

awesome updates though

[sturdy fulcrum]

just dropping them so i can take a year off

[fallen oracle]

3*

[sturdy fulcrum]

yeah I agree

[ornate spindle]

open source when? 😉

[fallen oracle]

Minecrates, VoteParty, DeluxeMenus

[sturdy fulcrum]

the dm updates are epic today

people gonna love them

[ornate spindle]

should honestly just open source your free plugins so that you can take a break

[sturdy fulcrum]

the CustomModelData option with NBT is gonna allow some amazing things

one day...

[ornate spindle]

that'll help out a ton of RPG servers

[fallen oracle]

We've been telling him to OS for over a year

[upper flicker]

tfw Intelli is going to open source the next version of core protect before you

[ornate spindle]

I understand closed source premium plugins, but not closed source free plugins

[upper flicker]

That was our hl3

[sturdy fulcrum]

Ya ya

[upper flicker]

And he's gonna beat you

lub u

[sturdy fulcrum]

Have some cleaning up to do before that

[ornate spindle]

idk, do you think there will ever be a cp3?

[sturdy fulcrum]

Can’t sell a dirty house

Just be happy I dropped some shit today if you use the plugins (doubt it)

[carmine hinge]

how to get world view distance again

?

[wide hazel]

https://i.imgur.com/mJI1fwG.png
@sturdy fulcrum and I racing for the top, there

[sturdy fulcrum]

U know what my motivation was today

[wide hazel]

to top the recent list because that's how you get downloads?

[sturdy fulcrum]

Over 1 year with no updates

[wide hazel]

rip

[sturdy fulcrum]

They finally got me

Lmao

[wide hazel]

lol, welp

[sturdy fulcrum]

Deluxemenus update was just a bonus I guess

[wide hazel]

jeez, I feel like I'm undercharging for AE 😛

though you can just compile it yourself for free, so hey

or download it from my jenkins, though there's some risk with that since I commit directly to master with that plugin

[strange bane]

What's AE?

[wide hazel]

the other plugin in my screenshot 😛

my only premium one

even then, "freemium" really

pay for support

[strange bane]

slowly lifts finger to scroll up while sighing

[wide hazel]

it's like five inches up. lol

[strange bane]

I'm kidding. 😛

[wide hazel]

AdvancedEnchantments

[strange bane]

I got paid 250 once for making a custom enchantments plugin.

[wide hazel]

so many plugins like $7+, a majority even $12+

[finite wave]

Same

[sturdy fulcrum]

Do u have an explosive enchant that I can hook into

[finite wave]

Splodge weirdo paid me

[wide hazel]

custom enchantments is easy. Making an API and a "common" core that can be used on other things like Sponge was not

@sturdy fulcrum I have two, really

Artisan [1-5]: Pickaxes mine in veins, axes fell entire trees, etc
Explosive [1-3]: When a block is broken, all the blocks around that block are also broken.

[sturdy fulcrum]

Do u have an event for those

[ornate spindle]

freemium? like mcmmo?

[sturdy fulcrum]

So I can add all drops to the inventory

[wide hazel]

it actually just triggers the BlockBreakEvent

for each block

@ornate spindle the plugin is MIT/FOSS and on Github, so you can just compie it yourself, but you won't get notified of updates or support really

[sturdy fulcrum]

Well already compatible then but could get resource intensive

[ornate spindle]

hmm, I might need to look into this then since I need to replace CrazyAuctions as fast as possible even if it means no support

[wide hazel]

I wanted compatibility more than anything else

@sturdy fulcrum exact code is here https://github.com/egg82/AdvancedEnchantments/blob/master/Bukkit/src/main/java/me/egg82/ae/events/enchants/block/blockBreak/BlockBreakExplosive.java#L62

the CollectionProvider.getExplosive().add(location); is just so it won't trigger the explosive enchant on the blocks it's exploding

that would be slightly rediculous

and funny

[fallen oracle]

Hopefully I just solved my ethernet issues. I just installed a new ethernet rack into my PC.

[ornate spindle]

rip just realised that AdvancedAuctions isn't open sourced, guess getting rid of crazyenchantments is good enough

[wide hazel]

I hope to replace all of CE one day

except the GUIs

[sturdy fulcrum]

Should think about firing a single event providing the whole collection of blocks aside from how u do it now

[strange bane]

What's wrong with CrazyAuctions?

[wide hazel]

if only such an event existed in 'nilla 😦

silk touch, etc wouldn't work if I did a custom event

[sturdy fulcrum]

It would for me

[wide hazel]

haha, fair

[ornate spindle]

every single click in the GUI of crazyauctions, it will save the yaml file on the main thread

[wide hazel]

O.o

[strange bane]

Lol.

[wide hazel]

isn't that plugin on Github?

[ornate spindle]

yeah

[strange bane]

Yeah.

Just fix it?

[wide hazel]

could PR a fix for that

[ornate spindle]

I was going to, but was worried that it could cause issues such as two people clicking at the same time & causing auctions to disappear or whatever

[viscid aurora]

is that jvm flag -server important or nothing in linux

[ornate spindle]

as far as I know that is default in java 8+

[void void]

on x64 systems it doesn't matter since its default iirc

[unreal quarry]

Bored. So here's me at my job :3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1reMLgqKnXBNL9qn8j6X_DgDJB1zFC1cm/view?usp=drivesdk

[wide hazel]

looks fun!

[strange bane]

That is one giant piano player you've got there.

[wide hazel]

lol

[unreal quarry]

It kinda does look like guitar hero, now that I look more closely

[sturdy fulcrum]

What u making @unreal quarry

[unreal quarry]

Barricade tape

This one says "danger do not enter"

[stiff yarrow]

every single click in the GUI of crazyauctions, it will save the yaml file on the main thread oooooooof

[static badge]

ah yes

IO on the main thread

not as bad as mojang though

[upper flicker]

rofl

every click

[wide hazel]

yeah, that hurts

it's like CoreProtect creating a new SQL connection for every single event

😉

what's a Hikari?

[fallen oracle]

Can't wait till CoreProtect starts to do that for PlayerMoveEvent (:

[static badge]

over at coreprotect I believe we do it asynchronously

[wide hazel]

it's been fixed for a while

[fallen oracle]

In all honestly, when I first heard of HikariCP I thought Aikar made it because someone referred to it as Hikar

[ornate spindle]

inb4 coreprotect 3 is all packet based

[wide hazel]

fuck it, you know what, that wouldn't be bad

lol

would only break every version

[ornate spindle]

I plan to learn ProtocolLib so that I can look into making a basic anti cheat that is 100% packet based

[wide hazel]

just use Matrix, honestly

it's basically all packet-based

requires PLib, etc

even does some ML fuckery

[ornate spindle]

hmm interesting

[limber knot]

jesus christ I just saw the projared thing that happened last month

dude lost nearly 250k subscribers on youtube

and he was barely over 1mil

I don't think I've ever seen a channel die that quickly, aside from maybe totalbiscuit when he literally died

[fallen oracle]

Well, James Charles.

Was dropping like 100K a day for over a week iirc.

[limber knot]

wot

[fallen oracle]

When it came out that he was trying to seduce boys into having sex with him that were straight.

[limber knot]

how many subs did he start with?

[fallen oracle]

Not sure

I didn't get too into ti

[limber knot]

oh that guy

he's down 18 million views over the last 30 days

so that's good

yep he lost millions of subscribers

he still has 15 million though

[sturdy fulcrum]

Those numbers mean shit since all I see on YouTube is blippi

Thanks kids

[brazen barn]

tf is blippi?

[sturdy fulcrum]

YouTube it bruh

[brazen barn]

My suggested videos are borked enough as it is

Although I auto-redirect YT's home page to my Subs page

[sturdy fulcrum]

My kids love it but I kind of feel like he’s a creep. I know he just found a thing to make him popular but on the same hand he’s creepy to me

[limber knot]

oh wow

[sturdy fulcrum]

“It’s blippi”

[limber knot]

I saw 0.1 seconds of a video and this already looks like it would be accepted into court as evidence

[sturdy fulcrum]

Mannn

[steel valley]

Hey, I was hoping someone could help. I currently run a server on a shared machine with Nitrous Networks, but I'm looking to move to a dedicated machine. My biggest problem is that I have never hosted a server that wasn't 'ready to go', and I have no experience with Linux. I was hoping for some recommendations for good companies that can offer a dedicated machine whilst maintaining a control panel for ease of use.

NN claim their specs are as follows, but I don't know what kind of performance that equates to on a dedicated machine. Any help is very much appreciated!
https://gyazo.com/5bb60fe66d2803eba7a953061b0e9db1

[sturdy fulcrum]

Kids in America love him

[limber knot]

the issue is that he might love kids in America back

[fallen oracle]

Ashh, you can get a dedi anywhere and install your own panel.

[sturdy fulcrum]

No doubt

[fallen oracle]

Some popular ones are Puffer, Ptero, and Multicraft.

[sturdy fulcrum]

As a parent he creeps me out. I wonder if he’s just doing it for views or if he likes little boys

Hard to tell

[limber knot]

he's got a major creepy vibe, I'm with you on that one

[steel valley]

I have absolutely no idea how to do that

[limber knot]

then again at this point I've grown so cynical that I can't help but to be suspicious of people who cater to small kids exclusively

[fallen oracle]

If you're looking for a panel for your mc server, I know people typically will do it for a quick buck, etc.

[sturdy fulcrum]

Idk man. Sadly my kids always want to watch it so I let them at times but I still don’t know if the dude is what he says he is just by how he acts