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void void
void void
oh of course
i mean, i use a mac, but no i would never buy a thousand dollar monitor stand
no thank you
worn ember
I'd get 3 28" monitor for that
worn ember
Yup
worn ember
Oh well
ocean bison
https://pastebin.com/YzTtpBJx
This compiles, but the relocations do not work (they dont show up) any clues as to why?
golden gust
remove the .*'s
golden gust
it does that already
golden gust
hm, for the include you might actually need *
Might wanna go look at some other poms or peek at the docs for it
upper flicker
WSL2 is 45% faster than WSL1 in running a full paper build from scratch 
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wow
cosmic raft
it's nice to see on windows
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interesting
cosmic raft
even if it's not "windows"
ocean bison
welp
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stop ruining my fantasy
upper flicker
mfw it says its using 6G
upper flicker
you have to run it in the vm filesystem to get that perf though
so then you'd be editing in windows over there whatever local network based thing
bind9 or something iirc
ancient bolt
wait is that fast git on windows?
upper flicker
thats WSL2
ancient bolt
oh right, on linux, on windows
upper flicker
they gave up on the "we'll translate linux syscalls to NT"
ancient bolt
"how do we make windows fast?" "put linux on it"
upper flicker
and just chucked a VM in there
which is good because windows file IO is fucking slow
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ravenrock is skyrim too
upper flicker
fucking bethesda
upper flicker
I use HeliosOne as my linux box
SentinelSitePrescott is a pi somewhere
think there's some others
havent given the odroid a dumb name yet
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.g heliosone
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void void
correct windows IO slow, let me remind u that I once had to sort about a million files by date modified and the code I wrote was going to take a few days so I wrapped powershell and used the dir and sort commands and finished it in 15 seconds
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it's just all a shitstain brown
fallen oracle
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ah yes
peak dirge
Personal machines are named after mathematical operations - my laptop is "integrate". My VPSes, for whatever reason. are named after U.S. presidents. "trump" is never going to be used. The Velocity project's servers are named after winners of the Nobel Prize in Physics.
I'm so confused
upper flicker
all my servers names are just based on where they are geographically and what number setup they are in that location
super boring
void void
that's what i use for mine
cursive narwhal
Yo, is Protection PROTECTION_ENVIRONMENT
void void
node1.qc.ca.na.domain.tld
first node, quebec, canada, north america
lol
isn't it protection_all
or am i stupid
probably stupid
fallen oracle
Why do you have so many ssrvers that you need that many subdomaina
fallen oracle
I'm so plain when it comes to stuff
I literally call my harddrives Data and Big Data
void void
i mean, #.city.country.region is pretty plain
fallen oracle
I should do that with my single vps
void void
cosmic raft
node1.qc.ca.na.earth.domain.tld
void void
yes
even better
the fun thing is, that might be a thing some day
in the maybe not so distant future
lol
upper flicker
lot cheaper to cool datacenters in the cold of space 
wide hazel
no airflow though
cosmic raft
pfft, air
void void
well if the heat immediately dissipates do you need it
cosmic raft
who needs air
wide hazel
(I mean, the servers would burst into flames the second they got set up)
(probably quite literally)
void void
works for me
wide hazel
(what's a "radiation shield"?)
void void
upper flicker
we cant even shield super computers in DCs here on earth from radiation properly
probably some time off from doing it in space
lunar vessel
upper flicker
we can dream though!
void void
im dreaming, im dreaming hard
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ur all retarded
void void
good
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are you saying ur cancerous
void void
only to stupid leaves
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ur cancerous in general
void void
maybe
fallen oracle
void void
he'd make some good burgers
fallen oracle
cosmic raft
^
fallen oracle
It's called mashed potatoes
cosmic raft
those are some very red mashed potatoes
fallen oracle
Obviously netiher of you are American.
pulsar wigeon
I mean, kashike's canadian
so that's a start
but i also like eating my corn without shit all over it
upper flicker
he doesnt apologize very often though
pulsar wigeon
so there's that too
upper flicker
probably only like half canadian
cosmic raft
my dad's side is russian, my mum's side is irish and french
cosmic raft
lol
fallen oracle
No problem there
pulsar wigeon
yea looks fine
wide hazel
lol
fallen oracle
I need to go find the GitHub issue for that
wide hazel
I just made it, was testing ๐
golden gust
(#TypicalEggissues)
wide hazel
lol
upper flicker
it doesnt look related to forums css or PlayerAyePapi though electronic?
wide hazel
it does indeed run on 1.13
void void
dad jokes have gone too far https://imgur.com/3jAlX9q
fallen oracle
.up when
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) http://when seems to be down
wide hazel
lol
fallen oracle
Lol
void void
UP
cosmic raft
cosmic raft
what discord
vestal jasper
banned
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really?
vestal jasper
No not currently I don't even remember how your mc name is spelled 
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ur retarded
vestal jasper
thanks
void void
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stiff yarrow
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nossr hides in offline mode
void void
i hid in offline mode from some fucker who kept asking me for shit but he was also nice so i didnt block him
fallen oracle
TIL a buffalo can kill a lion.
void void
did that for like 2 months
fallen oracle
safe tide
Is luckperms the best?
void void
it's the only supported perms plugin as of right now
best is subjective and commonly causes fights in here
safe tide
bperms?
void void
dead
safe tide
forks of GM that refuse to let it die?
fallen oracle
LuckPerms or die.
void void
but whatever
cosmic raft
GM is terrible and if you use it you are terrible
safe tide
Zperms?
void void
dead
safe tide
I miss Pex why it go and die
vestal jasper
I hide in offline mode when I don't feel like dealing with people
fallen oracle
What do you have against LuckPerms?
peak dirge
zPermissions is dead and relies on Bukkit dependencies that are similarly dead
peak dirge
@cosmic raft there was a guy on the Velocity Discord who wanted to know if PEX worked on Velocity ๐
peak dirge
void void
cool new proxy
vestal jasper
Velocity's pretty cool
cosmic raft
that www. kills me still
peak dirge
though I need to redo the website, but that requires time I don't have
safe tide
so bungee cord
peak dirge
@cosmic raft then help me with the website
vestal jasper
No it's a proxy not bungee
peak dirge
I'll push my work now
void void
tux is there bungee api compat? that's the only reason i haven't switched because i don't do plugins and the person who does would easily lose their mind and then I'd have to do it
vestal jasper
technically different ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
peak dirge
No BungeeCord API compatibility exists, and due to the design of the BungeeCord API, would be difficult to accomplish
vestal jasper
No bungee API but the bungee plugin messages are supported with
https://forums.velocitypowered.com/t/bungeequack-use-the-plugins-you-love-with-velocity/14
peak dirge
Also, I don't have โฒ
safe tide
seems like it's the same as bungee from the quick read I did of the description
vestal jasper
Quack just lets you port over more easily
void void
fair enough i don't know what we use on our bungee exactly but it's probably bloated with a fu ck load of useless shit
peak dirge
it's BungeeCord but with no md_5 weird crap
void void
that they claim is 'necessary'
peak dirge
and it's more efficient than bungee ๐
vestal jasper
Though suddenly having to deal with a fuckton of optionals is interesting
safe tide
does it have a decent following
void void
CompletableFuture<Optional<Boolean>> @static badge
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no
void void
yes
peak dirge
It's got a small community, plugins, and a handful of "major" users.
safe tide
so I shouldn't worry about supporting it yet great
peak dirge
"Major", of course defined loosely as >= 100 players at peak
vestal jasper
Speaking of my velocity chat plugin's nearing being usable 
void void
yeah that's a shitty mindset
fallen oracle
So how does Velocity compare to Waterfall or whatever
safe tide
look tbf I dont even support bungee officially with SP
peak dirge
It's big enough where it should have shown up on your radar
golden gust
unofficially, if you have no strict dependency on bungee, I'd give velocity a peek
officially, velocity sucks, Tux is evil!
peak dirge
lol
safe tide
Waterfall masterrtce
vestal jasper
I started working on converting my setup to a network after finding out about velocity so gg ez
peak dirge
I mean, Waterfall sucks too, and I made that too
golden gust
agreed
void void
i have a stroke trying to read the plugin threads in the forum
peak dirge
Everything I touch turns to shit
safe tide
bungee masterrace
golden gust
Bungee is the core issue
fallen oracle
Tux touched Moajng confirmed
void void
what is this about lol https://forums.velocitypowered.com/t/join-kick-prevent-velocitys-you-are-already-connected-to-this-proxy-by-kicking-the-old-you/122
golden gust
With bungee comes stupid API compat and stupid "not API but the API provides no way to do this properly", as well as ohh so many oddball decisions
peak dirge
Well, Velocity doesn't have any BungeeCord API compatibility whatsoever, so that allows me to do things like not support a random plugin from late 2013 (hello. CommandSync)
fallen oracle
Is there any good guides on setting up a project to support multiple platforms? I want to get more into it. It would be cool if Demons IJ plugin had something for that.
safe tide
god damn glare our the QT's out by you having issues with their drink machines too I've been to two by mean in the past couple days and the rootbeer has been off in the same manor
void void
@fallen oracle just use modules :>
fallen oracle
I haven't been to QT in awhile
golden gust
demons plugin lets you easily create all the modules for that
safe tide
what really QT is like the only gas station I use
peak dirge
@void void Velocity has slightly different kick behavior compared to BungeeCord and vanilla Minecraft.
fallen oracle
Ahh so just create the project multiple times and then combine into one?
golden gust
General gist is that you'd need an entry point for each platform and then you have your logic in another module
fallen oracle
Ahh
golden gust
use gradle/maven submodules
fallen oracle
Sounds like it's better to start multiplatform from the get go
There's no way I can do that fory main project
safe tide
I think you mean maven cause screw gradle
fallen oracle
I'll look more into how submodules work.
golden gust
It's one of those things which to do properly, you have to consider it from the start
peak dirge
Then again. Velocity doesn't have nearly as many features (let alone plugins) as BungeeCord does
fallen oracle
Yeah, can't do it 2 years after you started the project
golden gust
You /can/ convert existing projects, but often worth considering tossing a match in there
peak dirge
Not that
If you join with the same UUID/username, BungeeCord/Minecraft kicks the online player by default in online mode. Velocity applies the offline mode behavior of not kicking players if a duplicate login is detected.
I'll probably make it a config option. I prefer the latter behavior myself, but I can see where it's annoying.
Then again, Velocity is opinionated just like any other piece of software ๐
fallen oracle
Do any of you people have a simple moduleized repo I can check out?
golden gust
ye, an ur opinion is wrong
void void
@fallen oracle https://github.com/simpleauthority/konfig
extremely simple
and it's not a plugin
peak dirge
I'll probably make it a configuration option, so you can have Velocity follow BungeeCord's behavior here if you want it
fallen oracle
Sees simple enough
Yeah I see it's not a plug-in
Got a plug-in that does it too?
void void
i do not
but to make that a plugin, you just add a plugin.yml and use the different api by extending Plugin or JavaPlugin or whatever the platforms plugin class is
golden gust
Take bukkit and sponge support
void void
move all your core stuff that doesn't depend on either library to core module, depend the core module in your platform implementations, and there you go
then you just write what you need to for those platforms
golden gust
You'd basically have a module for the bukkit plugin, and a module for the sponge plugin, and any logic which can be shared between both of those will generally be implemented in a core module which will need to interact with your implementation classes
fallen oracle
So you just make abstract classes in the core?
void void
not necessarily
just any classes that don't depend on either platform
im sure you can find classes that do things that don't depend on either
void void
like for ACF (if you use that), the commands themselves don't typically rely on any specific platform, you would just register them into the platforms, but they could be written in the core
especially if you use a sender wrapper
wide hazel
got a better name than "Stillness" for this thing?
https://imgur.com/XyF6X5e
fallen oracle
Yeah i use ACF
wide hazel
(ACF is love)
fallen oracle
So I can create all the commands and stuff in the core project then call them from the plstofmrs?
void void
make a basic sender wrapper with an abstract sendMessage, implement the sender wrapper in each plugin module so you can send messages to a CommandSender (or whatever sponge calls it), then write a context resolver for each platform to resolve your sender wrapper
and then your commands can be written without any dependency on bukkit/sponge unless they cause in-game side-effects
idk /shrug
just try it it's not that hard
fallen oracle
I think ACF's CommandIssuer is universal for all paltforms
wide hazel
it is, yes
fallen oracle
Perfect, so that should make my life a lot easier.
wide hazel
ACF is designed to be universal- has a "Common" core and then submodules for Bukkit, Paper, Sponge, Velocity, etc
wide hazel
indeed
fallen oracle
Is that how you do AntiVPN?
stiff yarrow
@static badge hiding in offline mode because I'm on a real fake break 
wide hazel
@fallen oracle similar, though I only register commands in Bukkit, etc
so I don't have a use for core, really
peak dirge
Well, it's on the roadmap. https://github.com/VelocityPowered/Velocity/issues/226
fallen oracle
Oh
calm lion
fallen oracle
Alright awesome, thanks for all the insight.
acoustic pilot
ACF is almost universal, no Nukkit support yet ๐
fallen oracle
Idk if I want to support that
safe tide
wow just realize the last update on one of my plugins was 2 years ago
acoustic pilot
Sure, and that's why you end up with plugins like LuckPerms rolling their own command thing ๐
Just saying, it's not universal ๐
NukkitX is part of the Java family of MC servers, just isn't MC Java ๐
void void
spotify free makes me sad, lol, spotify ain't worth it unless you pay
acoustic pilot
And it's not worth the asking price unless you use it constantly
void void
i can't afford spotify, so im stuck with ads and limited skips like the good old pandora days
acoustic pilot
Gotta really make use of it to make it feel like you're getting your money's worth
Have you tried being less poor?
~_~
void void
why didnt i think of that
acoustic pilot
said the poor man
void void
i mean i could sell my gaming pc but the $500-600 i'd get off it would go straight to my credit card debt lmao
and i paid $2k for it
so :\
love depreciation
acoustic pilot
Mm, debt. Sounds fun >_>
cosmic raft
just get your father to give you a small loan of one million dollars
acoustic pilot
lol
stiff yarrow
debt 
void void
im 7K in the hole
acoustic pilot
Don't forget his $400 million inheritance
stiff yarrow
7k 
acoustic pilot
The $1 million is extremely small compared to that
acoustic pilot
Jeff Bezos makes more money taking a shit than you will in the next 10 years.
acoustic pilot
HIs wife got half tho with that divorce ๐
cosmic raft
acoustic pilot
If nobody was poor or in debt, rich people wouldn't exist. Just think about that.
cosmic raft
could be $70k
acoustic pilot
Being rich inherently means someone else is suffering to some degree.
void void
well the longer i dont pay, it raises up due to interest, and i can't find a job, and i have no degree (trying to get it so I can get a higher paying job)
im kinda stuck in a shit sandwich right now
but one day i'll get out and be free
lol
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ah yes fine philosophy
"if nobody was poor nobody would be rich"
how many years did that take to think up 
acoustic pilot
The concept of rich cannot exist without poor, I mean that's a fact ๐
LET THE CLASS WARS BEGIN
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class wars are for literal communists
acoustic pilot
I'd be considered a class traitor by both sides, tbh
Because I'd be OK with millionaires existing in the post class war
Just not billionaires
void void
i really don't mind if I have a small amount of money I just really don't like owing it
and I fucked myself there
but
whatcha gonna do lol
acoustic pilot
eat the rich
void void
I get called multiple times daily by collectors, I have almost all their numbers blocked tho
:^)
anyway new topic
cosmic raft
void void
im watching people fishing on youtube
cosmic raft
tell them you have an email for a nigerian prince who will wire money to their bank account
void void
I just don't answer because they are really really rude
I tell them I don't have the money and they say "well have you tried getting a job"
Like no Karen I haven't considered that but I'll take your advice!
I would happily get a remote job if they didn't all require 4 year degrees in computer science and 16 years of experience
(/s)
but they do all require bachelors or masters for some reason
stiff yarrow
basically you apply anyways simple
cosmic raft
but i'm looking
stiff yarrow
even if they ask for the degree
cosmic raft
i need to improve my resume a bit though
stiff yarrow
well you don't get anywhere without applying as they don't even know you exist at that point
if you have a solid portfolio who knows maybe you get a job somewhere 
void void
yeah i need a portfolio tbh lmao
a proper one
i refer to my github but it's full of undocumented bullshit
wooden blade
if nobody was poor or in debt, then I'd be living in an alternate universe and would be programming holodecks for Star Fleet.
(The only reality in which capitalism would no longer define everything for humanity)
vestal jasper
Should be yeah @static badge
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yeah you do
may not have an anticheat preventing me from entering space but at lest you have anti-xray
vestal jasper
I tried one of the other modes a while ago and it kept triggering players with slower connections
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yeah mode 2 sucks fat dick for that
vestal jasper
they'd break blocks and there'd be a delay until the block is updated and not shown to be an ore
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it doesn't even do anything really either
any xray with two braincells can get by mode 2
vestal jasper
I still get the occasional xrayer though
Most people make it blatantly obvious when they xray though
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I mean all you can do is xray to caves
vestal jasper
Wait are you actually playing or is this an elaborate setup for something 
vestal jasper
I TPd to you to see what you were doing but I'm not actively watching you
stiff yarrow
I thought mode 2 was supposed to be the legit one 
vestal jasper
Mode 2 can fuck right off
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I mean in my client xray mode 1 will just not render hidden blocks 
so there goes all the benefit you get out of anti-xray mode 2 in like 3 lines of code
vestal jasper
Mode 1 works well
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mode 2 works at least as good as 1
stiff yarrow
wasn't mode 1 the dumpster tier one
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mode 1 just hides stuff literally that can't be seen
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yeah no
vestal jasper
stiff yarrow
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let's just say I've done my research and done it well
stiff yarrow
vestal jasper
trying to beat both?
crystal compass
1.14.3 progress with chunk loading? or still succ
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it still sucks
void void
yeah you fuckers im trying to make money off my shit
wide hazel
alright, thaaat's probably good enough for tonight
went exploring in the r/minecraftsuggestions subreddit
picked up a few easy-ish enchants
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[22:02:01] [Client thread/WARN]: Teleport packet received for unknown entity 87605851, moved to (3895.125, 37.069288246369474, -1619.5380058109013)
wooden blade
Anyone happen to know if someone is still maintaining PacketWrapper? dmulloy2 last made updates when 1.13 was released.
I do see that JarvisCraft has made some recent additions, mostly for backward compatibility
wide hazel
not much has changed between 1.13 and 1.14
packet-wise
a bit, sure, buuut
PLib stays updated
PacketWrapper is just fancy
though I use it for my plugins
void void
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wooden blade
I updated an old tabbed chat plugin that was no longer being maintained for 1.13, and it was using it as a second option; primarily it uses ProtocolLib
wide hazel
tabbed chat in a plugin?
curious
anyway, iirc nothing related to chat changed from 1.13 to 1.14
could be wrong, but pretty sure you're fine
wooden blade
she should have said it was $20,002,000
void void
yep just read that comment, too ;)
void void
yes, i understand that
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[22:18:55] [Client thread/WARN]: Teleport packet received for unknown entity 87637265, moved to (4315.4887359802615, 64.0, -1656.8570411057715)
vestal jasper
I haven't even moved since your last message leaf
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moved from where?
void void
anywhere
vestal jasper
I literally haven't even touched my client
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simple ur retarded
void void
he hasnt moved, period
wooden blade
@wide hazel Yes, for my staff members the chat was being flooded with a lot of monitoring text. (Players mining diamonds, and chat messages between dubious individuals)
Add in that plus the output from the Challenge system and just player conversations it was kind of overwhelming.
The main downside with tabbed chat, is that the state of the last 20 + messages for each user has to be sent when something changes for that user.
So it's not efficient. A better way to handle that would be to have something client side that's capable of putting messages into tabs, but I don't want to add another barrier to
entry. (Some players aren't comfortable downloading a modified client, and I wouldn't know how to automate that)
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[22:26:40] [Client thread/WARN]: Relative move packet for entity id 87639713 which is not tracked
no pos since there's no original TP
vestal jasper
Probably a lot of work to do properly but in theory it is possible
Unless that's what you're doing
๐ค
wooden blade
I am using plugins to do tabbed chat. I've also integrated scoreboards to display the status for the Challenge system.
Which also allows players to use a small resource pack, that downloads when they join. It includes emoji that is swapped in for text
to reduce the size of the scoreboard
vestal jasper
Aye ok
wooden blade
and that includes clickable text
I combined some code created by MiniDigger to help me make it all component based
vestal jasper
I've been wanting to make a liteloader mod for that for a while
cosmic raft
liteloader is dead
wooden blade
I extended a plugin called TabChannels to handle Components and not just Strings.
Then I added an API, so I can create specific channels from within my Server's plugin.
I use ProtocolLib/AsyncChat to help move chat from other plugins into specific chat tabs.
limber knotBOT
You used vgls chat format?
wooden blade
It's the code you released in a forum post on Spigot. I don't know if you've integrated it since then
vestal jasper
@static badge this looks like fastbreak right?
He looks like he's moving his hand 2x as much as normal
vestal jasper
Alright
void void
looked normal
vestal jasper
yikes
limber knotBOT
Yeah, guess it's the same
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also didn't get any notifs on client when u tped
maybe ur server is just being garbage and sending me garbage for no good reason
that or its decided to drop packets
even though we're on fucking tcp and that's a no-no
vestal jasper
I'm in vanish now
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[22:50:44] [Client thread/WARN]: Teleport packet received for unknown entity 88644847, moved to (5047.00123047009, 63.2635784351689, -2323.174870992051)
[22:50:44] [Client thread/WARN]: Teleport packet received for unknown entity 88644847, moved to (5047.00123047009, 63.289809264095794, -2323.174870992051)
[22:50:44] [Client thread/WARN]: Teleport packet received for unknown entity 88644848, moved to (5047.00123047009, 63.50980926409579, -2323.174870992051)
[22:50:45] [Client thread/WARN]: Teleport packet received for unknown entity 88644848, moved to (5047.00123047009, 63.56034246067468, -2323.174870992051)
[22:50:45] [Client thread/WARN]: Teleport packet received for unknown entity 88644847, moved to (5047.00123047009, 63.340342460674684, -2323.174870992051)
[22:50:45] [Client thread/WARN]: Teleport packet received for unknown entity 88644847, moved to (5047.00123047009, 63.36530571655002, -2323.174870992051)
[22:50:45] [Client thread/WARN]: Teleport packet received for unknown entity 88644848, moved to (5047.00123047009, 63.58530571655002, -2323.174870992051)
[22:50:45] [Client thread/WARN]: Teleport packet received for unknown entity 88644848, moved to (5047.00123047009, 63.56330571639505, -2323.174870992051)
[22:50:45] [Client thread/WARN]: Teleport packet received for unknown entity 88644847, moved to (5047.00123047009, 63.34330571639505, -2323.174870992051)
spammed when I'm sitting on this horse
vestal jasper
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this game is just flat out retarded
merry talon
i think its just u
vestal jasper
yeah I'm pretty sure you're the retarded thing here leaf
wooden blade
I always win at solitaire, I don't know what your problem is
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diamonds 
wintry night
cosmic raft
your spawn is very busy @vestal jasper
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literally nothing at his spawn :>
cosmic raft
busy block/colour wise
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yeah it's a mess in terms of colour
vestal jasper
@cosmic raft made a few small tweaks
made some paths not as bulky and turned the lime wool into grass_block & green_concrete
vestal jasper
Also added some magenta terracotta to guide down the main path to the end
stiff yarrow
nice job
stiff yarrow
who me? 
vestal jasper
The bridges need a little work tbh
limber knotBOT
you cannot troll me
stiff yarrow
limber knotBOT
I have legendary IRC
cosmic raft
did you delete it yourself?
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nossr deleted it
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nossr ๐
vernal moth
Deleted what?
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how many clown emotes you got 
stiff yarrow
stiff yarrow
vestal jasper
leaf uses movement velocity fuckery to get somewhere
I tp him elsewhere
"that's cheating"
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yeah it is
limber knotBOT
can some of you discord peeps send a custom emoji?
need to make sure I fixed them in my client
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I'll be back just need to write something to automate this bs
vernal moth
limber knotBOT
nice, now it works every time
strange
let's see
ill let it roll
the image embedding in my client uses my server as proxy, but it wasn't working for all discord images
updated and now it does
Hi
In the waterfall.jar there is a file called waterfall.yml
And there is a version property ''
anyone familiar with this?
anyone on at all?
the patience
cereal time
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mfw
limber knotBOT
problem?
cosmic raft
basically
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.g oreo o's
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void void
they good
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yeah probably
cosmic raft
they are
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I mean it's oreo
cosmic raft
yup
stiff yarrow
candy + milk = cereal
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exec 1000000 1500 delta 0 700 0 100 1 what a command
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vic I'm at y = 137,000k already
this moon mission is going pretty good
there it should be better now
but it re-set my fucking progress fuck
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yeah I'm gonna have to sacrifice ur log for the moon mission
stiff yarrow
leaf why you aboosin cheats
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no cheats going on here
stiff yarrow
void void
call it coercing unintended side-effects
stiff yarrow
"my client is modded by coincidence"
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only coincidentally at y = 70k
oh well ill leave this on overnight to see where it goes
it'll stop after 1000000 calls
vestal jasper
I'll kick you before then :^)
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i'll lose the progress ๐ฆ
vestal jasper
void void
creative question https://puu.sh/DNbxF/8fcf7d6dae.png
void void
that sucks
dapper nacelle
I could put it through refactor hell
stiff yarrow
@dapper nacelle new project time
void void
if you have that much refactoring available to you so immediately, there is a problem
stiff yarrow
dapper nacelle
I am not sure about how my code should be structured
I put it through weekly refactoring hell
vestal jasper
Pick a structure and make it from scratch
void void
interrogation room how many times, exactly, did you say to yourself "oh well" and write it like shit anyway?
dapper nacelle
like changing naming conventions, fixing typos, applying final keyword, etc
stiff yarrow
bro you get lazy on naming conventions?
dapper nacelle
I never wrote trash
stiff yarrow
dapper nacelle
with the intention to write trash
worn ember
I write trash all day
worn ember
I mean. At least I know ;)
stiff yarrow
is this a yuge project
worn ember
Uuugeee
dapper nacelle
I'm getting to this state where I'm not sure if I should use inheritance to solve something cause the handlers I write are starting to kinda look the same
but inheritance is bad
dapper nacelle
but for like 4 line of code that's different in a class
stiff yarrow
stiff yarrow
vestal jasper
dapper nacelle
I had to refactor so much because I put in to much inheritance
stiff yarrow
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dapper nacelle
too much inheritance has broken my project a lot
void void
there would be but one single word
dapper nacelle
when I needed to add a new feature
void void
"Java"
dapper nacelle
lets just say that too much abstraction is bad
void void
what
stiff yarrow
dapper nacelle
according to my JavaScript teacher
dapper nacelle
yes
stiff yarrow
void void
pay the fine or serve your sentence
stiff yarrow
I can't tell if you are baiting or genuine dylan
void void
he's genuinely rarted
dapper nacelle
I doesn't matter if its java or javascript, too much inheritance is bad
void void
what
stiff yarrow
it should be illegal to say such blanket statements about core language features
dapper nacelle
you guys ever heard of composition vs inheritance
void void
someone get the plugs
stiff yarrow
the problem with your statements dylan is I lack context so I can only take them at face value, and at face value they seem to be wrong opinions
void void
^
stiff yarrow
void void
need to see code
dapper nacelle
let me give an example
void void
don't give a canned example of comp vs inheritance because of course we know what it is
we need to see why you think your code is bad due to inheritance
stiff yarrow
vestal jasper
@void void
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQYak7TLA60
stiff yarrow
if you want actual feedback show us your code
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void void
lmao
dapper nacelle
what if your boss needs a murder robot dog
dapper nacelle
not possible because you did everything with inheritance
dapper nacelle
yes?
stiff yarrow
stop that's illegal
stiff yarrow
try not to form strong opinions on design so early into your career
dapper nacelle
anyways, I ran into an issue where I had too many layers of inheritance and then I had to change the structure because of a new feature and everything got fucked up
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unless it's about kotlin
vestal jasper
in which case embrace kotlin
stiff yarrow
sounds like you just fucked up your design
I don't think you can really blame inheritance
your tools are only as good as you are
dapper nacelle
I got a 94% on the java exam so I got my certificate
void void
oh boy
dapper nacelle
no
stiff yarrow
I feel bad for getting baited
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94%
dapper nacelle
it was ez
dapper nacelle
I think it was about java 8
vestal jasper
dapper nacelle
the test was build in flash player
stiff yarrow
do you find it entertaining to bait us so hard 
stiff yarrow
I'm certified in baiting
dapper nacelle
I only lack well...
void void
oh boy
stiff yarrow
sounds fake
dapper nacelle
I only lack in the area where well basically code structure
void void
no they have those 
it's a scam
vestal jasper
what does a certificate even imply
void void
that you are a javatard
stiff yarrow
that you can write hello world without using google
vestal jasper
do jobs actually care if you have a certificate
void void
like i said earlier, i was legit bullied at my last job for mentioning i use java
C# shills
dapper nacelle
the whole test was multiple choice
this site
if you guys will excuse me now, I gotta get back to JavaScript
I have a website to build
in Vue JS
stiff yarrow
you got scammed bro 
stiff yarrow
idk seems like an easy cert and an easy cert is basically worthless
hope you didn't pay money for it
dapper nacelle
no I didn't
dapper nacelle
school provided it for me
dapper nacelle
there were genuinely hard questions in the test
like half of our class failed the test
void void
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stiff yarrow
dapper nacelle
the other half got like 65%
my class is filled with a bunch of numb numbs
excluding me
dapper nacelle
^
stiff yarrow
to me it seems like you are making the classic mistake of thinking you know whats good or bad when you are still learning fundamental stuff
stop being so opinionated
basically
is my advice
void void
nossr did you know too much inheritance is bad
vestal jasper
I've seen a lot of elitists / heavily opinionated people in this profession
void void
it's BAD GOD DAMN IT
dapper nacelle
you all were making fun of me when I said it
dapper nacelle
my code is bombed with enum singletons
vestal jasper
I've straight up had people tell me to never use anything except vue or react if I ever want to get a job
stiff yarrow
enum singleton
dapper nacelle
yes
void void
stiff yarrow
enum singleton
dapper nacelle
void void
what the fuck
dapper nacelle
dapper nacelle
code runs
void void
so you have that spaghetti but then say inheritance is bad
dapper nacelle
its not spaghetti
void void
oh, baby
void void
you think it's beautiful, but then say inheritance is bad and also tell us you are not great with code structure
oh god oh fuck
now im being baited
dapper nacelle
vestal jasper
dylan is that plugin on spigot
stiff yarrow
https://github.com/JustDylan23/Wands/blob/master/src/main/java/me/dylan/wands/spell/SpellType.java#L13-L45 bro what the fuck
void void
lmao god damn it
dapper nacelle
instead of a hashmap
void void
im afraid that he actually thinks this is good
dapper nacelle
the reason I use this instead of a map was because I was too lazy to make a map implementation of persistent data type
void void
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dapper nacelle
I need to store these spells on an item
so storing them as a string was like ez to do
stiff yarrow
you never have 2 spells of the same type doing things differently?
dapper nacelle
no I don't nossr
dapper nacelle
well
void void
INHERITANCE IS BAD
dapper nacelle
that doesn't make sense
void void
MAKE NEW SPELL
void void
how about a spell that you level up
and that causes a change in effect
does it still not make sense
stiff yarrow
new instance 