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void void
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except in my situation it was also a 500x500 world

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it died in a month

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anarchy servers are cursed man

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they die because of the weirdest things

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that one died because the IP address got reassigned to some unknown one

marble summit
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๐Ÿ˜‚

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Well im a server network

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The SB Gamemode is Done

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And we're texturing stuff for the Kit PvP GameMode

void void
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another anarchy server i tried to run died because DigitalOcean thought it was a ddos

marble summit
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Then you must suck dick at running servers dab

fallen oracle
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You should make a Guilds RPG server on your network ๐Ÿ˜‰

marble summit
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Whats a guilds rpg

vestal jasper
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rpg server with guilds

marble summit
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So its like factions but with mcmmo?

fallen oracle
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My plugin lol, it's another route from factions, it's more group and RPG based.

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No raiding or killing

void void
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honestly if you run an anarchy server, it has a 95% chance of burning down

marble summit
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But is what i am thinking of anarchy or is it another gamemode

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๐Ÿ˜‚

void void
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i've seen over 40 anarchy servers die

marble summit
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Cause i have no idea what gamemode i am thinking of i just wanna have it where people can't create guilds/groups, they can kill eachother, and there are no protections except for the spawn area which is a safe zone

void void
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hmm

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honsetly

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uhm....normal pvp?

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land claiming ruins factions

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lol

marble summit
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All i know is that it sounds like anarchy

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Like that minewind server

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or whatever it is

void void
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god

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minewind sucks

marble summit
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@void void But it wouldn't be PvP as a Gamemode

void void
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that is pretty much pvp

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youre not going to allow hacks im assuming

marble summit
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Yeah

void void
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any sane person would disallow hacks

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but yeah thats not anarchy if you can't hack

marble summit
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Even minewind dissalows hacks

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๐Ÿ˜‚

void void
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WHAT

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does it

marble summit
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Yeah

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Its against the rules

void void
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thats fucking [redacted]

marble summit
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Anarchy Servers are Quote
"Minecraft servers with almost no rules"

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So they're allowed some rules

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But they have to be obvious ones

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Like no hacking

void void
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2b, 9b, and const have only one rule : don't fuck the server up

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and honestly that's what anarchy should be

marble summit
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Or another thing is like no griefing the world

void void
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anything else is a lie

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a scam

marble summit
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Just grief peoples bases ๐Ÿ˜‚

void void
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wait...

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i remember my dumbfuck ass didn't block the WE calc command and some asshole used recursive math to crash the server :>

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you cant griff the world...?

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why do people even play there at that point

marble summit
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At where

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Minewind?

void void
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yeah

marble summit
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Cause it is fun

fallen oracle
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Ooo so there's 2 1.14.3 pre releases now. I see lots of bug fixes so far.

void void
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but if you cant griff spawn

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then whats the point

marble summit
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Spawn regenerates

void void
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whats the point then

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spawn is literally meant to be griffed

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gj

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we're proud of you

marble summit
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Well no like you can nuke spawn

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It'll just re build itself

void void
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but... that sucks

marble summit
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Kinda like on mineplex n stuff

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When someone tnts the floor in block hunt

void void
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wait you cant even dupe?

marble summit
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it eventually puts itself back together

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Actually yeah you can

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You can kill people in spawn

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They won't lose items there though

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Cause its a safe zone

void void
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honestly minewind is anarchy except they took away ALL the good things about it

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the freedom to use hacks, the griefing of spawn, duping, like wtf

marble summit
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That is vanilla gamemode

void void
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that's what anarchy is

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it's vanilla

marble summit
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No its not

void void
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yes it is.

marble summit
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The reason why anarchy and vanilla are different is
Anarchy is Semi Vanilla Vanilla

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Heck have you even played any of the top anarchy servers

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Lol

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

void void
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constantiam yes

marble summit
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They're all using custom items, bosses, plugins, ect

void void
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no they fucking dont

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you're playing some really <redacted> servers

marble summit
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The heckin economy in minewind is dragon eggs that you craft into nukes lol

void void
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minewind isn't a top anarchy server

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======ANARCHY SERVERS======

  1. 2b2t
  2. 9b9t
  3. Constantiam
  4. MineTexas
  5. AMC
marble summit
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But anyways yes if you have plugins you can still be anarchy

void void
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not if there's too much

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ok let's just say this

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a good anarchy server

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must have the following

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  • no bans
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  • no world resets
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  • no admin abuse
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  • no major game modifications
marble summit
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Anarchy and Vanilla are two different things for a reason. geniusidea

void void
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2b2t is semi vanilla because it runs paper

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that's literally it

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have you even seen 2b

marble summit
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Yes, its hell ๐Ÿ˜‚

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And very fun

fallen oracle
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Is that the server with the maps that are like 2TB in size?

void void
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*8 TB

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yes

fallen oracle
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That's crazy.

void void
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most of that storage is in books only btw

fallen oracle
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Do they not have a website?

void void
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nope

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the owner is uber lazy

fallen oracle
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Weird.

marble summit
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Well anyone who owns a Vanilla Server is uber lazy

void void
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yeah

marble summit
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Cause you do absolutely nothing

fallen oracle
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Wait so the region data is mostly books? Why?

marble summit
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And BAM

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Top MC Server

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๐Ÿ˜‚

void void
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jesus ok i drank grape juice and my gut is not happy with me

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i did not expect this

marble summit
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But anyways yeah.
A lot of anarchy now is Semi Vanilla PvP Survival

fallen oracle
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Same world since 2010, dang.

void void
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mojang should seriously research 2b2t

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it's minecraft servers at their limit

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can't really say that, since it hasn't reached any sort of breaking point. I would say yes, it is stressing the software but it certainly isn't reaching any sort of limit

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it is

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it's running maximum specs

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define maximum specs and where this is maximum is set in the code

merry talon
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so is every other network

void void
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it has reached a breaking point considering that they have found out how to chunk ban with encahnt tables

merry talon
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if you say it like thag

void void
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and that they have uh

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lol, this is already a retarded degenerate convo

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im out

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yeah that was a retarted point

merry talon
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it does reach the limits of what humans can endure

void void
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enchant table bans haven't been fixed yet

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also is there really no way to get a single minecraft world to run on multiple servers completely synchronized

merry talon
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pfft

void void
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hmm so because a bug exists, it means the server itself needs to be researched because it is hitting maximal theoretical limitszzzzz!!!!!!1

merry talon
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so so many things are preventing that

void void
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basically 2b2t has a lot of problems

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I am sure there a way assuming the software can take it.

merry talon
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namely the speed of light

void void
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we need like a Dumbasses Unite emoji

merry talon
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and laws of physics in general

fallen oracle
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Oh so they have multiple servers hosting the same world?

merry talon
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no

void void
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no

static badge
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feelsChromosomeMan is that emote

void void
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they can't

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im saying

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is there a way

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true

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More than likely it would be like a cluster that contains the world files and then the servers that run with no local storage connected to said cluster.

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You are talking out of your ass Friendly

merry talon
fallen oracle
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Idk. So are they on 1.14 yet?

void void
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That how non local VMs works.

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You're the same person who can't run on a vps because "too hard"

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Please.

fallen oracle
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Lol

void void
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currently the main reason why 2b2t's performance is so low is because it can't use more than 1 thread

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theoretically splitting the load into multiple servers can fix that

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but there is no way to synchronize it

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or add multithreading support to paper

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but that's a colossal task

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that's a big nono

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And probably possibly if the software will allow a world to be "tied" to multiple servers. Or if there a way to take that task to "fool" it somehow.

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ok waht

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This conversation..... feelsChromosomeMan

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yeah ok

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an idea would be to split the world into quadrants

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and have each quadrant controlled by one server

polar heron
void void
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sadly enough player rendering between axis would be completely out of the question

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im assuming

merry talon
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sharding is a thing in other games

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but you cant ensure consistency of the world

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which is kind of pivotal

void void
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woah that would also break nether highways lul

merry talon
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io will always be the problem

void void
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because you would be constantly switching between worlds

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More than likely you could pull it off like VPS providers do that don't relies on local storage. The likely issue though that Minecraft won't "let that happen" natively so likely it would need to be patched to do that if that even possible OR it would have to be handled at a lower level that Minecraft doesn't "know" it happening.

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oboi

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another rarted message

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You know, sometimes I am amazed at how friendly can speak out of their ass so fluently.

ember river
void void
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Like, just absolute garbage. But it's constructed in a way that it seems like it could be correct if someone didnt know better

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another idea is to split it into 4 quadrants but the axis as 5th server. But once again. how are you going to render players on the axis from one quadrant

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That is dangerous

merry talon
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it is quite the good bait

merry talon
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the thing about remote storage

void void
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ok by the definitions @cosmic raft i pick #3

merry talon
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is that you when you have dozens of ms of latency to your minecraft world

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good fucking luck

void void
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yeah... splitting the world into quadrants is impossible

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Not if you use it with 10Gbps+ NICs or those specialized ones that can even deliver even faster.

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god damn it

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simply because of how syncing on the axis would work

merry talon
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thats not how this works

void void
merry talon
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that's not how any of this works

static badge
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splitting the world into quadrants is retarded

void void
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Remember y'all, this is the same person who pays $3.50 a MONTH for their server and wants 4 hour incident response times

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Isn't that what we want is to access the same set of data at once but with multiple servers to spread the load?

static badge
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the real solution is to split the world into regions

void void
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but we can't have a server per region...

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wait region files?

static badge
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no

void void
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oh ok

static badge
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dynamic regions

void void
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ooh like for each player or something...

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ooh

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its all coming together

merry talon
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uh

static badge
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no not per player

void void
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not for each player

merry talon
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I'm going to shoot myself

golden gust
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look up shotbow I think it was

void void
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every like 60 players or something

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golden gust
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`The idea is more sharing the world itself into regions and syncing state and moving people between servers seemlessly

void void
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moving people between servers seemlessly

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how do we fix player rendering

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when 2 players meet

merry talon
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anyway thanks for treating my imposter syndrome

void void
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you're welcome

merry talon
static badge
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mfw filthy js objects

void void
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Is she okay??

unreal quarry
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yeah. just a bit of road rash and shook up

void void
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Fucking dumbass drivers

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What happened

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Did the person who hit run?

unreal quarry
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some idiot pulled into her lane to pass a car waiting to turn left

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they bailed, of course

void void
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Fuckers.

unreal quarry
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but they didnt know i armed my wife with a gopro

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i got the license

void void
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Good they're going down

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upper flicker
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I love sweet justice

static badge
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looks like they're goproing down

fallen oracle
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Now they are probably facing jail time for hit and run.

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I guess it varies between states

void void
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Definitely jailtime for hitting and running

fallen oracle
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So do you go into the police station for that or what

void void
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-.-

fallen oracle
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Got it

void void
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Yes Glare all you do is file a report at that point

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Billy's got it in the bag

unreal quarry
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yeah, got a case number already. cops came out to do a report, but none of us could see the footage on a 1 inch screen. i'm seeing it now on my pc at home. gonna take it up there tomorrow

void void
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Well, man I'm glad she's alright. Fuck dumbass drivers. And unless those pics don't show it, no turn signal either.

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They can bite him for that as well.

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also i'm assuming multithreading is impossible for paper right lul

left yacht
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people in maryland don't ever use turn signals.

void void
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No the latest commit to 1.14 is literally ec working on async chunks.

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Lots of people don't titanic

left yacht
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nor did an 18 wheel semi who almost drove me and my mother off the road a few weeks ago.

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didn't have a dash cam at the time, now everyone in my family does.

fallen oracle
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It's a 1998 Toyota 4 Runner SR5

left yacht
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that truck driver was swaying between 3 lanes.

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he was on some shit

void void
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My family owns a moving and storage company. Just last Friday, one of our dumbass employees rear-ended someone with OUR BIGASS TRUCK. We're getting internal and external dashcams now :\ Didn't have.

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(he's already fired btw)

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prob on some drugs -.-

left yacht
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trucks can cause a nice amount of damage.

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usually exaggerates every single crash.

void void
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Indeed, we're in for it right now.

left yacht
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it's fantastic and horrifying at the same exact time.

void void
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:\

fallen oracle
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You guys ever seen any of the 11ft 8 bridge videos?

void void
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yes lol

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I wouldn't put that past our employees either.

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They're as fucking dumb as they come.

cosmic raft
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I read that as "sweet juice" Z

void void
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We had someone apply for a job with us. Under "what should we know about you" he put "I can skateboard."

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On a fucking JOB APPLICATION.

austere ivy
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Are you folks ready for..

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..

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        [ Brian's ]
  [ Fun Fact of the Day ]
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/*         #0001         *\

< Washing dishes in a restaurant is in fact, not very fun. Did you know that your hands get up to 9481% drier and grossly wet at the same? >
cosmic raft
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no

acoustic pilot
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lul that hit and run guy gonna be charged with a felony

upper flicker
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what kind of juice though

cosmic raft
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sweet

acoustic pilot
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sux 4 him

left yacht
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oh nice felony.

void void
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Fuck that guy.

acoustic pilot
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third degree in texas if it's just an injury and not ad eath

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but still a felony

left yacht
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just being a felony has insane reprocussions

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rip him

acoustic pilot
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the hit and run part is what makes it a felony, he was obligated to render aid

left yacht
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yeah I'm not feeling pity for him.

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what he did is very fucked up

austere ivy
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Having the audacity to do something that even has a chance to kILL SOMEONE

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AND THEN

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RUNNING??

void void
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@unreal quarry did they strike vehicles? Or did your wife manage to steer off?

fallen oracle
left yacht
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idiots at the wheel.

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somehow was expecting worse MPG.

unreal quarry
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they hit

void void
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I hate people

left yacht
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you live for the good people in the world

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be a billy.

merry talon
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sweet juice from the sweet berries

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obviously

unreal quarry
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cop asked my wife if maybe the other person didnt know they hit her. she told them she doesnt know. after watching the video, there is no way in hell they didnt know. they hit hard

void void
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Not instant karma, but karma is coming for that asshole.

acoustic pilot
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(in Texas, ofc)

merry talon
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some people's brains are hard

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they're just dead matter

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for example spotted

left yacht
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I did barty

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I did when me and yive played for 600 or so hours

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on one

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my life passed away so fast.

fallen oracle
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Make sure to keep us updated on this Billy, we want justice!

unreal quarry
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yeah, byte. my wife wont calm down. she's gonna throw the book at them :S

void void
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throw at whom

acoustic pilot
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rip them, with video evidence probably got a good chance

left yacht
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screen -S factorio ./bin/x64/factorio --start-server saves/lazybastard3 --server-settings data/server-settings.json
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well that isn't helpful

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For me it was relatively easy.

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what OS you using?

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oh that's on an OVH machine LOL

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my factorio server was on an OVH machine

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no problem

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ehhh

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can you add me so we don't spam up this chat

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I don't want to take away from byte's severe situation

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of him fucking someone else in the ass with justice

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I mena

void void
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"not working" and "cant get it working" are not helpful if we don't know what exactly you're seeing when you try to start it lmao

left yacht
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BILLY

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OMG

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my rain

void void
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but yh gr8

left yacht
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brain

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is like

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not working

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brb rebooting brain with starbucks

void void
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just use cocaine next time

left yacht
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ran outt

void void
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still dont know why you say that because i dont know what it's doing

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but okay

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uh, ok.

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In that case, I could easily just say you're being really stupid for not being able to figure it out.

because, you know, there's no evidence on the table. I'll just pull more out of my ass!

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Okay, NOW we can say it's OVH being stupid.

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Thank you, finally.

left yacht
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7700k, is that an OC node

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or non OC?

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(makes no difference as factorio is memory limited)

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are both of them game servers?

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(you gotta disable game mitigation for factorio to work)

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in the IP section

merry talon
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fresh install of ubuntu or OVH's ubuntu

left yacht
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also I don't bother using firewalls

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for a factorio server

void void
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you should use a firewall anyway....for node security

left yacht
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we use OVH VRack

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works well

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though those game server sdon't have it

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yes barty

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I told you

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you need to remove all rules

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and then deactivate it

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because OVH's game mitigation is tuned for many games.

merry talon
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oh yeah that

left yacht
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game mitigation is terrible in networks

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just so you know

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it filters out

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connections between servers

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(Even on your same account)

merry talon
left yacht
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run MySQL across different nodes

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and it'll get clogged up

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or it'll drop the entire node

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but I won't stop you

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barty it's ok

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you don't live on the edge

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I don't judge you

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it takes time

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to propagate a rule

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to all their firewalls?

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what do you expect

void void
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It's the Frenchies badly translating to English

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"under construction" means "processing"

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Still french company

left yacht
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What OS you on now

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And did you install the distribution kernel

merry talon
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They can't even serve the same language consistently across their site

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remember who you're dealing wifh

left yacht
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Learn French noob

merry talon
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i like how they use that name to try to separate from the shithole reputation their main brand has

left yacht
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Itโ€™s just their USA division

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Thatโ€™s all

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Iโ€™m downstairs waiting for food

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I can run up if you need

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OVH mitigation is weird

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I use it for a 2,000 player network

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So I unfortunately know every quirk

unreal quarry
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@spare venture OVH doesnt have a USA branch. it's canadian, and they speak french there

minor dirge
fallen oracle
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Such as?

void void
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im so pissed they included curl!

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๐Ÿ˜ 

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and how dare they include wget, and sudo!

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๐Ÿ˜ 

safe tide
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Why do people insist on using the review section to ask for help

safe tide
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60% of the time they do it is on there end

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like rn I have someone saying my plugin doesnt work on 1.14 bullshit I've tested on 1.14

void void
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make your plugins better then

safe tide
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what add more idiot proofing?

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Make it to where you have to open the config to get the plugin to load

void void
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i wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't work with that spaghetti

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maybe don't just assume he's incorrect

safe tide
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NO HE FUCKING IS WRONG BECAUSE I'VE TESTED ON 1.14

void void
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aight m8

safe tide
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that works fine is it a mess yes

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Just haven't had time to make a better system

void void
pulsar wigeon
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oh

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jesus

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๐Ÿคข

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why did i click that link

void void
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yeah

static badge
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even we's code isn't that bad

pulsar wigeon
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leaf

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ur retarded

safe tide
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says the one using the wrong you're

pulsar wigeon
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WHY IS IT DUPLICATED

void void
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&& !claims.townyClaim(location)
                                && !claims.factionsClaim(location)
                                && !claims.greifPrevnClaim(location)
                                && !claims.worldGuardClaim(location)
                                && !claims.kingdomClaimCheck(location)
                                && !claims.factionsUUIDClaim(location)
                                && !check.blacklistBiome(location)
                                && !claims.residenceClaimCheck(location)
                                && !claims.landLordClaimCheck(location)
                                && !claims.feudalClaimCheck(location)
                                && location.getBlockY() >5 && !claims.legacyFactionsClaim(location)&&
check.isVillage(location,target) && !check.checkLocation(location,target))
pulsar wigeon
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have you ever heard of a do-while loop???

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have you ever heard of intellij's refactor->extract method?

safe tide
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I forgot about them from time to time never really use a while loop

pulsar wigeon
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i just got done reading the heap of shit between lines 282 and 288

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and then IT'S THERE ALL OVER AGAIN in like 293 to 306

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WHY

void void
safe tide
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I need to find some time to rewrite the whole claim check

void void
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No just the claim check

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You need to rewrite

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Period

safe tide
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it was fine when it was like 3 claim plugins and that's what I said dumbass

void void
safe tide
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that's actually outdated

void void
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It's not outdated if it's on ya master branch m8

safe tide
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master is outdated

void void
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lmfao

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this guy

safe tide
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I branched it out dumbass

void void
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branched it out to TempFix! oooohyeaaaaaah

safe tide
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yea which is no longer a tempfix

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Need to merge it but Im lazy

void void
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mate what the fuck it's still in tempfix

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it ain't fuckin outdated you tard

safe tide
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not what I meant by outdated dumbass you assumed that I mean I actually need to add shit in

void void
unreal quarry
safe tide
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My hope is that by the time I go back to school in the fall I actually have cleaned up the code

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that is the goal at the very least

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may need a flame thrower to clean it

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god damn I need to get a new mouse

west moat
void void
tame pendant
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13 minutes from passing the 24h mark without crash/restart!

limber knotBOT
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heelo

safe tide
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hello

void void
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help us make 1.15 not fall on its face like its predecessors

golden gust
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Yes, because mojang and multithreading has a good history...

limber knotBOT
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suggestions like that are 100% useless

golden gust
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Making stuff threaded also heavily complications stuff, especially when you come to the plugin library that's developed over the space of what, 10 years?

limber knotBOT
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since the ppl who create and vote for them have no fucking clue about multithreading

golden gust
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Also, more threads == more performance is a stupid assumption

limber knotBOT
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"use more cores, its faster!!!11"

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and I mean, that suggestion is for bedrock ๐Ÿ˜‚

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or do they use the term "dedicated server" for java nowadays?

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I only heard it in the context of bedrock

void void
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people who make those issues are people who come in here and hear us talking about multithreading and then think it's a great idea for buttfuck everything

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:\

ancient bolt
#

Just add more threads

static badge
#

what retarded shit did I miss

ancient bolt
#

HOSE did it

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Remember?

static badge
#

hose kappa

cosmic raft
void void
#

Oh, that's good.

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๐Ÿ˜‚

static badge
#

11 cpus

void void
#

the mojang guys are smart, i think they know what threading is

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Obviously they are retard monkeys @void void

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ok make a better game then

heavy rapids
#

pong

void void
#

Damn I really didn't think I needed to put a /s there for you to get that.

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But since you need it

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Here you go: /s

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oh man!

finite wave
#

@void void Remembers /s stands for serious /s

void void
finite wave
#

Brian can vouch

limpid pier
static badge
#

navi ๐Ÿ˜ 

void void
#

TIL alexa can understand me when I pause to think of what am gonna say lmao

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"Alexa - uhhh -- -- uhh.... -- oh yeah --- turn on the lights"

finite wave
#

Fancy

worn ember
#

when you're forced to use netbeans for your XML exam...

#

man why is school like this

normal echo
#

At least you get to use an IDE

rancid urchin
cerulean prairie
tidal quartz
#

Is it still better to use G1GC with 1 GB heap to achieve lowest STW pauses?

void void
#

GitHub webhooks + Discord webhooks @rancid urchin

rancid urchin
#

ok

carmine hinge
#

will 1.14.3 be the version that saves the day

void void
#

no

carmine hinge
#

;(

#

what about 1.14.4

void void
#

no

carmine hinge
#

.5?

void void
#

no

carmine hinge
#

hmm

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.7?

void void
#

no

carmine hinge
#

... .20?

void void
#

no

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(/s)

rare palm
#

Lmao

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Nice name @carmine hinge

carmine hinge
#

thanks ?

#

you too ๐Ÿ˜˜

rare palm
#

Whwre are you from

carmine hinge
#

new jersey kek

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nah I'm from Pakistan

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born in nj tho

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tfw third generation immigrant

rare palm
#

I mean, hameed is a really good name

carmine hinge
#

oh that name

rare palm
#

You never expected me to be able to read that

#

Did you

carmine hinge
#

๐Ÿค”

#

ุนู…ุงุฑ thonkcool

void void
#

oh no rtl

rare palm
#

ุญู…ูŠุฏ

carmine hinge
#

ok probably should take this to dms kek

rare palm
#

What does rtl even mean

carmine hinge
#

right to left

void void
#

right to left

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noob

carmine hinge
#

we're going to kill everyones sanity if we use arabic here

rare palm
#

Well, let's do it then

worn ember
#

and probably break discord in the process

void void
#

the mods are asleep! post rtl!

worn ember
stiff yarrow
#

I for one endorse right to left

limber knotBOT
#

the mods are asleep, seize the means of moderation!

#

Is man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

#

no, says the paper moderator, it belongs to the modriarchy

#

no, says the spigot moderator, it belongs to the spigot donation page

#

no, says the mojang legal team, it belongs to mojang inc.

void void
#

this guy gets it

#

mojang ab actually ๐Ÿ˜ 

#

oh shit did i just expose my entity

#

erm

#

identity

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nope im solid

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im 2 rarted for that

upper flicker
#

!stats

limber knotBOT
#

Uptime: 17 days, 17 hours, 35 minutes, 50 seconds
Message Handling: 6ms / 2ms (mean/median)
Messages from IRC: 6352 (7%)
Messages from Discord: 82886 (93%)

rare palm
#

Rtl isnt that good

#

@void void
Dont call me stupid... youre stupid

limber knotBOT
#

hey I think I read something about mojang reverting their decision regarding upper case worlds not working, is that true?

rare palm
#

Mf

#

Maybe

void void
#

m8 what

trail mason
worn ember
#

@upper flicker just shut the bot down already smh

upper flicker
#

no u

worn ember
#

U cant shut me down ;n;

#

i'm still so young

upper flicker
#

Your face is dumb and no one likes you

worn ember
#

oof

upper flicker
#

get shut down

worn ember
#

but who will maintain paperdownloader then

upper flicker
#

imjustkiddingbbplsdontleaveilubu

worn ember
#

โค

pulsar wigeon
#

no one needs to maintain ๐Ÿšฎ

worn ember
#

its good ๐Ÿšฎ

#

is has 2 โญ so its obviously really good

#

thats 100% more than my other projects

#

well except my server launcher, that one has 8 stars for some reason lmfao

rare palm
#

Flexer

acoustic pilot
#

Feels like I've been writing javadocs for the past 2 days >_>

silent ridge
pulsar wigeon
#

just autogenerate tags and leave descriptions blank :^)

#

boom, documented

acoustic pilot
#

Like, 70% javadocs and 30% code maybe lol

#

lol

silent ridge
#

Hi

void void
#

hi

acoustic pilot
#

I also hate going to the lazy route with {@inheritDoc}

silent ridge
#

I know this is off topic of the discord but I need peopleโ€™s opinion. Recently I just got promoted department assist manager in my department which Iโ€™m excited for! But couple of my coworkers and friends which are in another department are like โ€œDonโ€™t abuse your powerโ€ or โ€œDonโ€™t be a d** because your becoming a manager". Which Iโ€™m very surprised and kinda hurt by them saying this. They are excited for me but I feel like they are going to look at me differently or not respect me. Which I guess if Iโ€™m in another department they really donโ€™t have to respect me as a manager. Just kinda frustrating that my friends are giving me push back.

acoustic pilot
#

Like being able to get useful docs just from perusing the source, so inheritDoc sucks for that

void void
#

Tbf, when you become a manager then your friendship is changed to a very high degree. It's not going to be the same and you need to recognize and accept that as soon as possible.

#

Allowing them to say those things opens yourself up to insubordination

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

acoustic pilot
#

You probably won't be invited to social functions, you're "the man" now. So gonna have to man up and put profession before friendship when dealing with this people, IMO.

#

They are your subordinates first, they ain't gotta be your friends.

void void
#

Make new friends, at the manager level.

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(You will.)

silent ridge
#

I know I will make new friends a buddy of mine is also getting promoted so that will be nice. My department shares space with another department. Which I feel like they are just jealous of me becoming a manager in the first place.

void void
#

They probably are

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

#

But those comments, I'd already be very wary

#

Sounds like brittle team cohesion if I ever heard of it

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(i.e. what do they see as "being a dick"?)

tidal quartz
#

Hey, is that still better use G1GC for low heap apps with goal to minimize STW time?

void void
#

(not allowing them to fuck off at work?)

silent ridge
#

That department loves drama. I'm realizing they are not really my friends anymore. Technically I have no power over their department. I guess so

void void
#

But you have influence.

#

You can talk to THEIR manager as a peer now.

#

Sooo

#

You do have power ๐Ÿ˜‰

silent ridge
#

That is true.

acoustic pilot
#

As long as you aren't trying to do their job

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And don't come across as such

void void
#

Right

acoustic pilot
#

but yeah, you can casually bring it up or something in a peer related setting

void void
#

But commonly I've noticed, when a coworker becomes a manager and that coworker was someone who you previously like, complained about your job to

#

They might be like "oh shit"

silent ridge
#

I have made couple of comments about their department to someone. So I'm assuming they didnt like that he see me as "Abusing Power" or "being a dick"

void void
#

See, that's not being a dick. That's your prerogative as a manager, but it should be peer to peer. They shouldn't really be able to hear about that.

silent ridge
#

Yeah, people talk a-lot in the department which causes drama. I guess I'm starting to realize that people wont view me as a peer anymore.

acoustic pilot
#

Such is the nature of a command hierarchy.

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Or hierarchies in general

stiff yarrow
#

@silent ridge work isn't really to make friends, when you move up in management you're going to have to accept that you might have to do things that isolate you socially from some bitter coworkers

void void
#

Make professional acquaintances, ones that, if lost, won't mortally wound you ๐Ÿ˜‰

silent ridge
#

@stiff yarrow Yeah I'm learning that quickly. I was speaking with another manager he said being a manager can be lonely at sometimes.

acoustic pilot
#

Sucks, but being in management means being the bad guy a lot of the time, even if your intentions are good. You gotta do what's best for you, but I'm not entirely apathetic to the plight of the grunt ๐Ÿ˜›

silent ridge
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Next time someone makes a comment to me like this. I will explain my position at work has changed you may view me as being a dick but I'm not really I'm just trying to do my job. If I come off as a dick so be it. I don't really make comments about their department anymore because I agree it's not really my business.

void void
#

Don't even go to the personal level by referencing anything about how they view you

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Just say your position has changed, and all you're doing is your job.

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๐Ÿ˜›

acoustic pilot
#

Just try to avoid conflict in general

#

If an incident occurs, refer it to the team's manager

#

Not putting yourself into a situation of conflict is the best answer to dealing with those people IMO

silent ridge
#

Okay Thanks for your advice! Their departmentis mostly people attitudes and wont take shit from other people. lol

void void
#

Yep, just remember. You thought you were in bureaucracy hell before....well....

acoustic pilot
#

You'll probably get nasty looks

#

You know a lot of them won't like you

void void
#

You just went to the next level down.

acoustic pilot
#

But there's nothing you can really do to change that

silent ridge
#

I'm glad a friend of mine is getting promoted as well so we can speak about our issues with each other.

void void
#

Yeah, bet he is having the same feelings as you

#

Confide in each other

acoustic pilot
#

With both of you getting raises now you can afford cocaine like a real manager

void void
silent ridge
#

@acoustic pilot Chill it's only a grocery store that I work at lol Also I gotta pay for evening classes at night some how.

limber knotBOT
#

boop

#

I am a robot

void void
#

Oh it's not that bureaucratic then lul

acoustic pilot
#

they can be just as

silent ridge
#

lol

void void
#

I haven't experienced thank god ๐Ÿ˜›

#

banks are my stomping ground

#

(so far)

acoustic pilot
#

my dad works for DeCA (commissaries) but that's mostly DoD beaurocracy, but seems like grocery stores have a lot of their own beaurocracy.

#

he's always going off about internal drama too with subordinates >_>

earnest basalt
#

The deli in my store is dram central

silent ridge
#

Same

slim relic
#

Hey guys, in EssentialsProtect if I add phantom: under the spawn: category will that work?

void void
#

err, well if it wasn't there by default then [x] doubt

#

but, try it pepega

slim relic
#

yolo

acoustic pilot
#

Well Essentials wouldn't add it even if the config got updated

#

If I remember correctly, any way

void void
#

orly?

#

wat

slim relic
#

thonkeyes yeah phantoms are annoying as fuck though

pulsar wigeon
#

some plugins don't bother updating existing config files

#

cough

void void
#

true

#

i don't either lmao

acoustic pilot
#

A lot of plugins, like Essentials, don't update configs

void void
slim relic
#

is there a way to disable them

pulsar wigeon
#

WE/WG don't :^)

void void
#

just add your idea @slim relic

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it might work

slim relic
#

yolo

#

Well

#

server didnt crash after reloading plugins

#

essentials reloads fine

acoustic pilot
#

I'm not seeing it in the config.yml on GitHub

slim relic
void void
#

prob not a thing, then

slim relic
acoustic pilot
slim relic
#

wait, which essentials should I get monkagiga

void void
#

X

slim relic
#

NVM the link I sent just redirects to the one above

#

guys

#

I think

#

it actually works?

#

and using eggs don't work either

void void
#

nice

slim relic
#

now to see if they spawn naturally

void void
#

maybe it just uses entity name and you can add watever entities you want in there

slim relic
#

probably, that would be dope

void void
#

(not maybe, that is what it does it seems)

scarlet breach
#

Guys

#

I have GriefPrevention in my world, if I added worldguard would the 2 plugins interfere with each other

#

GriefPrevention so players can make their own claims easily without having to ask an admin

#

and WorldGuard so i can make claims with alot of customizability for example pvp is allowed but breaking blocks isnt

slim relic
#

would probably work, I mean just try 4Head

robust quest
#

Or just give GriefPrevention Flags a try.

#

@scarlet breach

scarlet breach
#

ohh thanks

limber knotBOT
#

Hey

pulsar wigeon
#

. It's similar to WorldGuard, but it's more performant,
doubt

#

includes many more useful flags than WorldGuard does.
thonk

fallen oracle
#

Wot

pulsar wigeon
#

there's like 3-5 flags on this list that aren't already in WG. but they are in extra flags plugin

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

fallen oracle
#

Wish you guys would've implemented the title flag sooner, would've had greater usage in the older days.

pulsar wigeon
#

literally no one asked

#

i didn't even know titles were a thing til two months ago

fallen oracle
#

That's really surprising

pulsar wigeon
#

then someone a month ago asked about it

#

and i'm like "hey this is cool"

#

and by the end of the week it was in

fallen oracle
#

Yeah it's annoying since the flag doesn't exist in v6 and legacy, it's hard to wrap it. Ended up just passing on it.

#

But glad to see there's official v7 releases now.

pulsar wigeon
#

i mean, v7's been stable for like 8+ months

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

#

just got around to make it official

fallen oracle
#

For the most part, yeah. I have been using that wrraper to support all 3 versions, it actually does a decent job.

#

Makes my life easier than having to work specifically with each version

pulsar wigeon
#

people still using beta1
๐Ÿคข

fallen oracle
#

Well, by 3 versions I mean v7, v6, legacy

pulsar wigeon
#

oh

#

you mean pre-custom flags

#

let me amend my statement

#

people using 1.7
๐Ÿคข

#

1.8 (WG 6.2) has custom flag support

#

so it's either 6.2 or 7+

fallen oracle
#

Ahh really?

pulsar wigeon
#

yea lol

fallen oracle
#

Idk what custom flags are but sounds cool

pulsar wigeon
#

the whole reason you're using the wrapper, presumably

#

api changes ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

fallen oracle
#

I am using the wrapper so that people can make regions with my plugin on 1.8.8 - 1.14.2

tropic flame
#

unrelated: I hate to be this person but to start a server from scratch, is 1.14.2 stable right now?

fallen oracle
#

So, you're probably right.

pulsar wigeon
#

what plugin is that anyway

tropic flame
#

asking for a friend

pulsar wigeon
#

logics

fallen oracle
#

My main project is Guilds. I'm also implementing that wrapper into the PlaceholderAPI WorldGuard expansion this weekend.

#

People keep complaining it don't work

#

So I gotta go in and rewrite that

sly tartan
void void
pulsar wigeon
#

and the winner of the most obnoxious name...

wide hazel
marble summit
#

Is @pulsar wigeon cause it's a fuckin stupid name geniusidea

wide hazel
#

at least they're taggable

#

starts with a dash

#

hate names that start with some weird UTF char that you can't tag

marble summit
#

Amazing

wide hazel
#

I mean, you can, but effort

marble summit
#

Boycott discord for removing UTF chars

#

in usernames

pulsar wigeon
#

.mo you're actually fucking retarded

marble summit
#

Stfu Incel - Discord EBoy Starterpack

#

Im so fkn high rn lmaooooo

#

Stfu virgin

#

want me to flex my roles on u

upper flicker
#

Literally havenโ€™t touched the forums in weeks

wide hazel
#

you still broke it

#

somehow

#

๐Ÿ˜›

#

I blame Z for the forums going down and 1.14

#

and the lack of tacos

slim nymph
#

blaming Z for existence of 1.14?

#

thats harsh

wide hazel
#

yep

slim nymph
#

what did Z do to you

upper flicker
#

They work fine here

pulsar wigeon
#

Z invented counting you know

#

and thus 14 must come after 13

#

so 1.14 is Zs fault

wide hazel
#

I mostly blame him for the lack of tacos

#

guarantee he ate them

#

oh, NOW it works

#

it's like bringing my car to the mechanic

#

I tried twice

upper flicker
#

There is an update pending that requires rebuilding the container

#

Wasnโ€™t going to do that today

wide hazel
#

inb4 forums down for maint

upper flicker
#

Maybe later

#

Not going to do that from my phone at work

#

Something will blow up and Iโ€™ll have to fix it, be annoying

peak ginkgo
#

Would be a full powermove

wide hazel
#

I do updates from my phone sometimes

#

SSH keys and everything

upper flicker
#

Iโ€™d do an apt upgrade all day from my phone

#

Wouldnโ€™t do the forums

wide hazel
#

sometimes I regret doing updates from my phone

upper flicker
#

RoR complicated catastrophe if it blows up

wide hazel
#

something something softkeyboard

#

and spell check

#

spell check is painful with Linux commands

#

"FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, NO, I DID NOT MEAN 'DO', I MEANT 'CD'"

#

I want to make a keyboard app that autocorrects everything to "sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root"

pulsar wigeon
#

$ do egg82

mellow spindle
scarlet breach
#

Is sublime text like winrar?

#

keeps asking me to buy it lmaooooooooooooooo

austere ivy
#

Who here is nice to me?

pulsar wigeon
#

fuck you brian :^)

#

i mean that in the nicest possible way

#

also share the coke bruh

austere ivy
#

Hmm wiz do you have nitro?

#

I have nitro for people who want it ._.

pulsar wigeon
#

o boi nitro

#

i've always wanted to spam animated emotes in random places

fallen oracle
#

Oh boy

#

You don't like spamming emotes?

austere ivy
#

Glare, you're nice to me.

pulsar wigeon
#

glare also has nitro already :P

fallen oracle
#

I've had nitro for a long time.

#

I originally got it for bigger file upload but now I do it for just whatever.

#

I like playing some of the games.

austere ivy
#

Hmm.

cedar spade
#

TehBrian is the best member of the Paper community

fallen oracle
#

Bridge Constructor is pretty fun.

austere ivy
#

Maybe I should just keep them in my private channel where they are already for future months.

#

D'aww that's sweet MD.

#

You're nice to me, never said anything mean to me.

stiff yarrow
#

if we had a tier list, he'd def be above Jan, Sweepy, and Barty

austere ivy
#

No doubt.

#

Barty's not too bad on his server, actually.

fallen oracle
#

I typically try not to be mean to people unless I have a reason to.

austere ivy
#

I think he just has bad influences here peepoJuice

cedar spade
austere ivy
#

MD, you're a lot better than a lot of the people here.

#

Simply search "brian" and "ret**d"

cedar spade
fallen oracle
#

Fancy.

ocean ether
#

๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ‘Œ

austere ivy
#

I like that emote.

ocean ether
austere ivy
#

:GWcorbinHolyF**k:

ocean ether
#

I can only use this one as i am poor discord nitro classic no nitro user

#

๐Ÿคฃ

austere ivy
#

Don't worry buddy you'll get it eventually :)

strange bane
#

Does Orebfuscator have a lot of overhead? Thinking about using it while the feature is absent from paper.

austere ivy
#

Just gotta be super vigilant with Nitro giveaways hypereyes

ocean ether
#

Never won one

austere ivy
#

well if you won one you wouldn't be without nitro :P

#

Something for Everybody does a lotta those giveaways which is cool but it's so wildly popular that you don't have a great chance of getting it yourself

placid thicket
#

yes i know i am a few versions behind, but we are finally actually stableish

fallen oracle
#

Not bad.

strange bane
#

Any really impactful changes, @placid thicket?

#

Oh wait you have no entities.

placid thicket
#

hoenstly, i sometimes have a hard time understanding exactly what an update does, currently running 73 and with (almost) default config no longer experiencing massive save lag

strange bane
#

Nevermind the entity count in timings is still broken.

fallen oracle
#

Some people just get lucky I guess.

static badge
#

72 added incremental saving

placid thicket
#

i know, i am displaying my appreciation ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

strange bane
#

We have a lot more tile entities than you, that might be why will still are a little bumpy.

#

Can't see entity count on the graphs.

placid thicket
#

total 1569 ATM according to /paper entities

#

however we only have 4 online now instead of 5

fallen oracle
#

Wowza that's pretty low.

limber knotBOT
#

We have reached speak PowerPoint

strange bane
#

That's per world.

limber knotBOT
#

(MiniDigger) An easier way to make fractals in PowerPoint - length 5m 19s - 7,630 likes, 29 dislikes (99.6%) - 89,489 views - Tom Wildenhain on 2019.05.24

strange bane
#

Already seen that video. xD

placid thicket
#

nobody is in other dims right now so i dont think it matters

strange bane
#

I just remember the guy saying "disappointingly efficient" which made me laugh.

placid thicket
#

we also mass murder Cod on the regular, because Cod

strange bane
#

Villagers are the worst.

fallen oracle
#

Cod is up there too.

#

Might as well just block it from spawning until they fix it.

strange bane
#

I am really struggling to get this maven project to compile.

fallen oracle
#

Which maven project?

strange bane
fallen oracle
#

Idk if Paper has added back in their anti-xray but the built-in one will be the best one you can use.

strange bane
#

They haven't.

fallen oracle
#

Ahh

strange bane
#

Lots of "The POM for com.lishid:orebfuscator-v1_9_R1:jar:v1_9_R1 is missing, no dependency information available"

fallen oracle
#

You might have to run all the buildtools first.

strange bane
#

Well I'm not doing that.

#

I'll just delete all the non-1.14 modules.

fallen oracle
#

Lol

placid thicket
#

unfortunatly you can't just kill all the villagers, as they are the entire point of this update ๐Ÿ˜›

strange bane
#

You can disable all their AIs. xD

placid thicket
#

we are currently killing pigment though till 14.3 fixes that damn bug. the nether is terrifying, only ghasts and magmacream spawn. SOOOO many ghasts

#

disabling their AI in this update makes them unable to trade or spawn golems...

strange bane
#

Oh, it actually compiled.

#

Are we on 1.14 revision 1 still?

fallen oracle
#

Yes

#

We shouldn't be, but we are.

void void
#

wiz, you around?

tiny meadow
#

https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/community/posts/360047514492--Java-Edition-Add-Multithreading-Support-for-Minecraft-Servers

Vote for this please, Mojang needs to add this and more votes hopefully means they'll prioritize this

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@pulsar wigeon i know you hate pinging but i think this is important enough

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i made it

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it's working

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if it doesn't throw an exception every 15 seconds it's not a worthy addition to WE

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does client throwing exceptions every tick count?

pulsar wigeon
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wow

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yeah

pulsar wigeon
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lol

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ready for prod

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does it do that to the client lul

pulsar wigeon
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no u retard

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the client mod does

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anyway current bugs:

  • selections are off by 1y
  • shifting adjusts selections back to grid
  • F5 mode is more broken than you can imagine lmao
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turns your screen into lazer party you had when you were 16 or something probably

strange bane
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How are the outlines drawn?

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opengl

austere ivy
pulsar wigeon
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party, as if i had friends

austere ivy
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@void void did you steal my eyesshaking

void void
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no

austere ivy
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hmmmmmmmmm

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because I didn't have that on any server and I added it to mine

void void
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it's been on private discord for last 2 years

austere ivy
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HMMMMMMMM

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Oh okay, same with me.

void void
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so idk what u on about

strange bane
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How does WE 7 add a white outline to vanilla clients? Is it that spectre effect?

void void
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no, it's client side mod

strange bane
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Oh?

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which died with liteloader pretty much

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i'm reviving it on Fabric

austere ivy
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WE 7 does it without a client.

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side mod.

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IIRC or maybe I just read it wrong.

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WE 7 throws exceptions without a client mod?

austere ivy
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No way really? What a shame.

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wow effects when people have to mod their client

pulsar wigeon
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tf