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void void
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vegan stuff here is sold at a premium, because the companies have learned it's a trend

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Like the imitations are. Obviously just regular vegetables like a normal person are not.

heady spear
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Being an omnivore is so cheap here tho. Like 1L of milk is only $1, I don't know why people complain.

void void
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heh, yeah, no

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oh, yeah, i guess so :\

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we buy it by the gallon lol

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fuck imperial, again

heady spear
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1kg of bananas would be ~$3

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c h e a p

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I can easily do my grocery shopping for $75 a week if I try

void void
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That's manageable. But that's mainly because I'm fucking broke.

heady spear
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During a cut, that is. When I was bulking I spent like twice that on food :p

void void
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I know my mom if she's got the money will happily drop 400-500 on groceries.

heady spear
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the most I've spent in a month was $500 I think

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but I was eating 4500kcal a day at that time

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Also, around 80 grams of fiber a day 😛

void void
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I definitely do not get enough fiber

heady spear
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I am cutting atm, but I still try to get around 150g of protein, and vegan protein is basically blended news papers

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so loads of pulp = loads of fiber = healthy pooping.

void void
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so my booty is trying to tell me something by not pooping regularly

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noice

heady spear
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You should poop at least once a day tbh

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Like people say that twice a week is enough, it really isn't.

void void
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i do, it's just not a good poop pepega

golden gust
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He's doing that right now

heady spear
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At least 4 times a day or you'll feel weird and bloated

golden gust
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Look at what his hands just produced!

void void
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mfw

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4 times a day

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me: sweaty

heady spear
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If you get enough fiber and enough water then all you'll do is go to the bathroom

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it's hell tbh

jaunty bolt
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4 times a day, wtf

heady spear
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I don't recommend it 😠

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yes? 4 times is an average day :p

jaunty bolt
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peeing 4 times a day, but pooping? xD might wanna see a doctor

void void
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nah i think just about all americans are chronic under-poopers

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and think it's normal

heady spear
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I mean, it's kinda really normal lol

void void
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because none of us get the fiber we need

heady spear
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y'all just constipated af

wide chasm
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I go to the toilet three times a day; about 1-2 times pooping.

jaunty bolt
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how much are you eating to be able to produce that much shit though

heady spear
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If I pooped less than two times in a day I'd be scared

void void
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i can almost guarantee you have enough shit in your intestines right now to do that

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it's just like

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not moving.

jaunty bolt
heady spear
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When cutting I only eat 1 big meal a day

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aiming to get ~1500kcal in at once

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cutting is sad though

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I wanna bulk again, more fun!!!

void void
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i used to do IF

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i'm assuming that's what you're doing

heady spear
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you feel big and stronk and lift heavy things like stronk man

void void
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i had 1 meal a day, it was gr8. felt good

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idk why i stopped

heady spear
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Kinda, yeah, but I'm not strict about it

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I like big meals and if I can only eat 1800kcal in a day then it's hard to spread it out

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IF is great though :p I have IBS, and it helped me a lot when I stuck to it

jaunty bolt
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There is no generally accepted number of times a person should poop. As a broad rule, pooping anywhere from three times a day to three times a week is normal. 
void void
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it was pretty hard to do honestly. If you think about it (((and eat properly pepe))) that is a laaaaaarge amount of calories to take in at once

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sometimes i had to take a break from eating

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just to come back and eat

jaunty bolt
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that's like a whole pizza 😄

heady spear
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Tell me about it. I mean, I've been a vegan for like a year now

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and most vegan food isn't very calorific

jaunty bolt
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ah, that probably makes it harder

heady spear
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so getting 1500kcal in a sitting is like a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot of food lol

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Also, getting 4500 in a day was extremely hard

jaunty bolt
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damn, yeah. like 5 kilos of carrots

heady spear
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I had to pour oil on everything to get close to that

jaunty bolt
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yum

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nuts? 😄

heady spear
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Ended up averaging at 250g of protein a day tho so that was great :p

void void
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yea and lick the fuckin plate afterwards too pepega

jaunty bolt
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haha

heady spear
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Although, at the same time it's kind of hard to get a decent amount of protein when going low. Like, feeling full while cutting is a lot easier on a plant based diet imo

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but then you need to eat a shit tonne of soy and then you feel like shit

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or pea protein, but that tastes like literal fucking dirt

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so gross

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That's why all vegans are skinny bitches

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😠

void void
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so basically

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if they aren't following their diet at a superhuman level (like most people should anyway instead of shoving shit down their throats)

heady spear
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But yeah, it's still possible. It's just very expensive at that point. Like veryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy expensive

void void
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they're prob malnourished

heady spear
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I mean, that goes for everyone

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I don't think vegans are worse off that anyone following the standard american diet

void void
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true.

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but then again

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what the fuck is the standard american diet

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because

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what

heady spear
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they're not that malnourished

void void
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Sometimes my family will cook healthy. Then other times, they're scarfing fucking big macs down and counting who finishes first

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like

heady spear
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Tbh I think most vegans are fine, because they don't follow those dumb instagram diets

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Most of us eat loads of fake meats and shit like that

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also, fast food from time to time

void void
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my sister was an obese vegan

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i was v embarassed pepe

heady spear
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It is very possible to be an unhealthy vegan if you want to

void void
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she was already there

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but she started vegan and then stopped bc 2 hard and ended up getting fat surgery

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or whatever it is

heady spear
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My best friend is a female bodybuilder and she's vegan

void void
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but she would tell fucking everyone "oh yeah im vegan"

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meanwhile being 400 pounds

heady spear
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she's doing fine :p

void void
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like

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the embarrassment pepe

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everywhere we go

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"im vegan, soooooo"

heady spear
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Honestly most vegans are so fucking annoying

void void
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but like

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You could hear her walking toward you from at least 100 meters away

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stomp stomp stomp stomp stomp

heady spear
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I am vegan for mostly ethical reasons, but it also helps me not feel like shit because a) I'm allergic to like everything and b) my body can't digest shit properly lmao

void void
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rip dancepepe

heady spear
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but like imagine those asshats that make a huge deal out of it all the fucking time

void void
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yeah

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my sister

heady spear
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MEAT IS MURDER!!!!

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ur a murdureuru!

void void
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and now she's not vegan anymore and eats hamburgers like no big deal

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just last month she was yelling at me for cooking eggs

heady spear
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ew I'm going through my friends instagram and there are loads of creepy dudes commenting on all her posts

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maybe because it's all like butt pics

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but still

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also she has sneaky pictures of me on there

void void
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pepeburn fuck social media tbh

heady spear
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I scroll and I see butt butt butt then suddenly me

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butt butt abs horse ME

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I shall sue

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her butt is huge tbh I'm proud

void void
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you should do a collab photo with her butt and then you, and then switch accounts and hit on the guys but be as absolutely disgusting as possible

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i wanna see

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not her butt

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but that interaction

heady spear
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Ima start posting butt pics too

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same pose

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Mine is smaller tbf but I think it's sexist if she gets more likes

void void
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I hate instagram

heady spear
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his quotes are the worst

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they make me want to eat piggies

void void
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yeah, yikes

heady spear
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"I like my food like I like my people.
Nontoxic"
Yes but also eat loads of plants that literally are toxic all the time??

golden gust
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He looks like a man who's lost all hope to move on

heady spear
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his girlfriend is hot tho

void void
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I can honestly say, not attracted

heady spear
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idk she kinda looks like half of my friends tbh

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not sure whether I like her or nah

void void
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yes she looks extremely basic

heady spear
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I can appreciate the hard work put into her physique tho

golden gust
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looks more tollerable than simple tbh

void void
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oooh, yeah, let me turn around and take a pic of my ass in the same pose that every other woman has done too!

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im so unique!

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hehehehehe

golden gust
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You probably already do

void void
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i do, but i dont post it 😠

acoustic pilot
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too much hair

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that's why

heady spear
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I post it

void void
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i can't argue with that logic

acoustic pilot
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nobody wants to see a hairy ass

void void
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@ byte

heady spear
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you can shave tbh

void void
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i have nair i just havent used it (in a while)

heady spear
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shaving your ass isn't recommended tho

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because you'll cut yourself and that isn't fun, and then you'll get ingrown hair and the itchies

golden gust
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Alllso

heady spear
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trim, don't shave :))

void void
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thats why nair

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its a cream, u put it on, take a shower, hair falls off

void void
heady spear
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she isn't as basic

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I kinda like her

acoustic pilot
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appears to be marketed as a feminine hygiene product @void void

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_>

void void
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they have a "for men" brand

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also city

heady spear
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she's also an oxford alumnus which makes her a lot hotter

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read the caption you asshat, it was clearly for lols

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She's just extremely boring

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like so boring

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her vlogs are sooooooooooooooooo boring

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She has a body and a brain but 0 personality.

void void
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well...

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that's mainly the criteria for "basic", minus the brain

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so i'll give her basic+

heady spear
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If she was funny, an oxford alumnus and a gymshark model I'd like her

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but her personality sort of ruins that

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I'd rather have, idk, a Glasgow alumnus with a great personality and a decent body

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Glasgow being the minimum requirement.

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Dunno what that'd be in US terms 😐

void void
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No clue.

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I have a PhilPoly alumnus with a great personality and great body, so.

heady spear
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It's a decent university with moderately high requirements and not shite alumni 😛

void void
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However, I feel like our definitions of great body are....different.

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Imo, their asses look fat. Not nice.

heady spear
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I shall start accepting applications soon.

void void
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Specifically this grace chick

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lmao

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And that dudes gf

acoustic pilot
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from all them ass injections

heady spear
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tbf it's not that hard for a woman to build a big butt

void void
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yeah, clearly. I don't like gigantic asses

heady spear
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my friend grew hers by a looooooooooooooot once she started working out properly

void void
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My girl however 💯

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good size.

heady spear
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idk I want girls that work out

void void
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my girl works out she just doesn't plan on entering a weightlifting competition where she deadlifts with her f ucking ass

heady spear
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but she is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo skinny atm

void void
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ass2small

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gotota be somewhere in the middle

heady spear
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She does great eating videos tho

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like cheat days with 10k kcal

void void
heady spear
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idk how the fuck she eats that much

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like 10 fucking donuts in a sitting?

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nah mate

void void
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she does that

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ok

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hmm

heady spear
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this garden gnome lol

void void
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LOL

heady spear
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I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo not into that

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His face just doesn't match his body at all, it's just floating there

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Plus, they're both really short lol

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Idk I don't like these stronk men, I want something more manageable. This is too much imo

void void
heady spear
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Ye Zac is really short lol. He makes great content tho 😛

void void
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wtf

heady spear
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like you'd be fucking david but it'd feel like hitting a brick wall

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nty

void void
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Pretty audacious of you to assume he'd be the bottom

heady spear
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Also fuck his genetics.

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He keeps his definition no matter what fucking weight he's at

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also steroids

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he's 100% juicing but no one cares about that

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so it's cool

void void
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lawl

heady spear
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he doubled in size in like a year

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without losing any definition

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🤔 100% natural

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Nah mate. I want myself a Jamie Dornan. Nothing less, nothing more

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Just as Irish, otherwise I won't date.

void void
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Lmao

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Fuck

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2:30am

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Gotta slep

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goodnight

heady spear
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I have two exams this week

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I need to study

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go sleep so I can study

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go away

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shoot

void void
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dancepepe dances out of sight

native thunder
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I'm honestly confused about city's gender and sexual orientation at this point

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I thought they were a he

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But I dunno

void void
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a bi he

heady spear
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same

void void
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ok bye

heady spear
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go away

void void
heady spear
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So I should be studying but I am watching an Asian chick make a marshmallow fluff burger

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10/10 procrastination

native thunder
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Is this that shitty cooking channel?

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I don't remember the name but it's a couple

heady spear
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) DIY FLUFF SCREAMER - Marshmallow Fluff Burger | Regional Burgers - Schuylkill County, PA - length 12m 47s - 4,297 likes, 72 dislikes (98.4%) - 56,416 views - emmymadeinjapan on 2019.06.11

heady spear
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I really like her, she's so fucking wholesome it hurts

void void
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Interesting to see a game node already beginning to "warm back up" in RAM usage so early in the AM.

limber knotBOT
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its 12:19 now and prod is still not up again

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ThisIsFine.png

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but hey, telefon mail and internet works again

void void
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Insane...

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I just cannot believe the company of that size is not taking it seriously.

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Imagine if Youtube went down like that?

golden gust
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get it done properly, I guess

limber knotBOT
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What's happening?

heady spear
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Mini peed on a server computer and destroyed his company

limber knotBOT
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pp[s

void void
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His company he works at takes serious network outage like nothing happnes.

limber knotBOT
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Mhm

heady spear
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Meh that is just an unplanned vacation

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Take the time off, go buy ice cream

void void
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You might as well right? 🤣

oak bobcat
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Hey guys 😃 👋 , I'm making a sweet minecraft host... How much disk space do you think should one server at least have? I thought of 3Gib....

void void
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Ugh not another one...

oak bobcat
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it's not like the other 😃

golden gust
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if you think 3G is enough for a server, you're probably not been running one 😦

limber knotBOT
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Give it more than you'd think, but not that much

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3 GiB is not enough

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But 4GiB is also not enough, or is it?

void void
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If you say so anyways I would say 5-10GB should be enough per GB of RAM allocated and should be reasonable to allocate with SSDs/NVMes sizes these days.

oak bobcat
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5 Gib?

void void
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Per GB yes that would works.

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so a 3GB server should probably have 15GB of disk space allocated to it.

limber knotBOT
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It also depends what you're doing...

heady spear
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Is memory to storage size a linear relationship all of a sudden?

void void
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Duh larger servers takes up more disk.

limber knotBOT
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Is it linear though

heady spear
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Not necessarily.

oak bobcat
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@heady spear I don't think so

limber knotBOT
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I'd give it enough, and maybe even too much

heady spear
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Too much is the way to go

limber knotBOT
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There's nothing worse than not having enough

heady spear
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Use the rest to store pictures of your minecraft girlfriends

void void
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so ideally you either want to upgrade the disk OR at least offer an upgrade path to buy more reasonably.

oak bobcat
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Yes thats what i was planning

void void
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Because else your going to have people blasting the NIC and you don't want that during off hours.

limber knotBOT
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$1/GiB of storage

void void
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to offset the disk restrictions to store their backups elswhere.

heady spear
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Just give them unlimited storage and have it overlap

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No one will notice

limber knotBOT
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I mean, surely you want NIC blasting during off hours, not busy hours?

void void
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No it will costs you more with overages.

limber knotBOT
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overwhat?

void void
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overages when your bandwidth goes OVER the limit they will usually charge an extra fee (by a lot) to keep your dedis online.

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kinda like the olden days of going over minutes on your phones.

oak bobcat
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hmm... unlimited storage sounds like a wrong way....

heady spear
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There are no wrong ways

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Also lie about the actual numbers on your website

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People won't care

void void
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Indeed it is that why I recommend giving some to prevent abuses from killing a node but ENOUGH to fit most needs.

oak bobcat
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as I said, its not like any other host... it is a ingame host where people can make servers from ingame and join

void void
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so as I mentioned 5-10GB per GB of server's RAM is usually good place to start OR give them like 20GB ish and have it be upgrade able is also an option.

limber knotBOT
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There are still dedi hosts that have bandwidth caps?

heady spear
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If its ingame then they can just download more storage

golden gust
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Yes

void void
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Yes usually 10TB but can be as low as 3TB if the bandwidth is restrictive.

golden gust
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Pretty much all dedi hosts have b/w caps that I've seen

void void
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like from the AU Sydney for example.

heady spear
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On the flipside, I've never seen uncapped ones

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Unless it's like extremely expensive enterprise plans

golden gust
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OVH do free traffic

void void
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OVH is the ONLY exception to the rule apparently IF you don't abuse the bursts.

heady spear
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OVH is a network of Soviet era toasters

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They don't count.

limber knotBOT
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wat?

golden gust
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Several others do too, but bandwidth costs money, so you're generally limited to a fair few dozen TBs

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(and then you get charged for anything ontop of that)

void void
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@oak bobcat sorry about that in that case yea you really want to over provision the disk then to make sure there's enough as monitoring it would be pain in the butt. In that case since there will be limited management you can probably get away with less.

oak bobcat
heady spear
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Just delete rarely visited chunks 🤔

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Autopurge the worlds and keep storage space usage minimal

golden gust
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Yeaa, now I remember why I stopped using stupid lightshot

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I can't see that image

limber knotBOT
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wait who has limits? :o

void void
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Bandwidth limits?

limber knotBOT
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OVH/Hetzner/IONOS don't

void void
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Yes because they attract people who want the world. For QUALITY data centers that are above the rest your looking at limits.

oak bobcat
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also, I'm hosting servers for free with limited time

void void
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Don't let it go long like 3 days max but long enough to play for a bit like 3 hours at least.

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Or very limit it like 512MB with 2 slots or something. Long enough to get them going and then charge them as they "going at full speed".

oak bobcat
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I might give free players 3Gib (server for 4 days) & paid players (5Gib) more buyable

merry talon
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they'll send you an angry email if you use enough too

golden gust
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Never heard of the last, first two are not really what I'd consider your typical hosting sites

merry talon
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but generally their ports aren't fast enough to use enough anywah

void void
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exactly they over provision it by a LOT to make their razor thin profits.

oak bobcat
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ok so maybe 24h for free

void void
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Yea and 3GB is insane try 1GB at max.

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Because most of your "customers" will also be free riders.

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So be prepared for that overheads.

oak bobcat
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ok thx

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how much disk does a typically smal minecraft server need? that will run for max. 3 days

void void
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you are welcomed probably 3:1 ratio to start and then scale from there. So if you got a paid node have another 3 for the free riders or a big one like a dual E5 for them to offset costs a bit.

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5GB is usually enough to get them started.

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Free servers should be fine with half or even less.

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But I wouldn't go lower than 1GB.

oak bobcat
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thanks @void void ... and do you know what kind of CPU would be better for minecraft servers: Intel Core i7 or Intel Xeon ....
I've read that Xeon is better in single threaded that is good for minecraft servers

worn ember
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minecraft is mostly multithreaded now

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so fast cores with 2-4 cores should be good

oak bobcat
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but what about the main thread that is doing heavy lifting every ticks?

worn ember
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most of it is offloaded to other threads now, like chunk generation and stuff

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sure it all has to end back up on the main thread eventually but most of the calculations are already done at that point

oak bobcat
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thx.. do worked at developing spigot a bit? 😃

worn ember
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ive made a few plugins here and there, nothing too fancy though

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mostly commisions

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i'm not by any means involved in patching/developing spigot/paper though

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if thats what you mean

oak bobcat
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yes, ok

limber knotBOT
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@F​ri​en​dl​y, its not an outage, it extended planned maintenance 😂

heady spear
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tacos are severly underrated

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this guac is so bad tho

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just tastes like lime 😐

woven otter
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ur a taco

heady spear
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ok daddy

void void
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@oak bobcat Xeons are good however I7s will take the cake for raw performance. But the biggest trade off is the RAM sticks. Because ECC RAM won't work in I7s since it's not supported and therefore if one of those nodes goes then you need to spend time figuring out which one died instead of ECC "telling you" which stick gone "bad". ECC will also tries it's "best" to prevent data from going "bad" as well.

snow holly
wooden juniper
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Time to try how 1.14.2 paper runs at this stage on my server. Thonking

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Oh sweet, my server's CPU is at the top of the list. PogU

void void
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It should be better other than chunks load/unload.

wooden juniper
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I'll look into it.

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Might yolo around and see how hard the server dies when pre-genning the world

void void
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That will only helps with the generation lag because of the loads/unloads are the main issue.

wooden juniper
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It was interesting to witness 1.14.2 die with 80 people joining at once.

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It worked fine for 5 minutes.

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Then died.

void void
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I can't believe it even held that many lol.

wooden juniper
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i mean

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maybe it was just my server specs being overkill

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for running minecraft

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and not putting any other load onto it

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but then the chunk stuff kicked in and it died Kapp

void void
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Yea but even a pair of NVMes can't really mitigate the issue. Someone even said that they were running on a RAMDisk and that still caused them issues fairly early on.

wooden juniper
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yeee

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Meanwhile running on 1.13.2 with a fully pre-genned map and 50 people on -> 20 tps.

void void
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These things HELPS cool it's OFF but doesn't get RID of it.

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I am just glad now you can run probably a 20-30 slots server pretty simply now.

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If your hardware is pretty good or got a solid shared provider.

wooden juniper
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Now I'm wondering how I could improve the efficiency of running multiple minecraft instances.

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Just limit each instance to 2 cores of my CPU.

void void
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They will do by itself since schedulers usually do their jobs.

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and Minecraft servers will rarely exceed 2 cores of usage anyways.

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since it's usually the bulk on the main+some left from plugins, network, etc.

wooden juniper
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I'd rather fully isolate each instance

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so they won't bottleneck each other eventually

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you never know

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also TIL that a virtIO network adapter dies if too many players join a server

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swapping to an emulated intel e1000 fixed that

void void
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You can probably put them in some form of light weight container maybe?

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Just because you want to "contain" each instance, it just going to be more work though.

wooden juniper
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just use taskset

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to run the servers

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lol

void void
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Gotcha.

wooden juniper
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Pretty niche tool.

golden gust
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taskset is evil

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Wait, maybe wrong tool

wooden juniper
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why is it evil Monkas

golden gust
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Oh, yea, no, that's bad; The server often does things like spiking, which not ideal can easily be dealt with if you don't restrain it too much

wooden juniper
#

ahh

golden gust
#

It also creates a bit of a curveball for the JVM, because the number of cores available is now incorrect, so any tool that tries to use your core count to calculate how many threads to dedicate to a task will now be off

wooden juniper
#

i wonder if 12gb of ram for a 1.13.2 paper instance w/ 50 players avg is too much assigned, idk. i never monitor it

#

ahhh

void void
#

So basically getting a "dedicated" core from a game provider is the worst thing a shared client can do for their Minecraft server interesting.

#

Since that what they do is "pin" the CPU core to the client.

golden gust
#

There are some theoretical advantages to pinning, but they're mostly irrelevant in the multtasking world

wooden juniper
limber knotBOT
#

qaq

#

You're both great

#

I'm just a rookie

rancid urchin
#

could 2 Xeon E5405 and 32GB of ram run a 1.14.2 Server? with like 20 people?

wooden juniper
#

It'll must likely suffer, @rancid urchin.

#

Since the clock speeds are 2ghz.

#

single-core performance is what matters for minecraft

golden gust
#

Launch Date
Q4'07

wooden juniper
rancid urchin
#

Oh

#

so no

#

😦

wooden juniper
#

Probably not.

#

Sorry. btmcCry

rancid urchin
#

Even with 2 of them?

wooden juniper
#

yes

#

core/socket count =/= single-core speed

golden gust
#

having additional cpu's doesn't help you

wooden juniper
#

lemme just run amd opteron's in dual socket

rancid urchin
#

Oh ok

limber knotBOT
#

you can run 10 of those and it wouldn#t be good

golden gust
#

in fact, multiple CPUs can actually hurt you in some cases

wooden juniper
#

thats the joke, digger

#

im fine with my 9900k server

limber knotBOT
#

I didn't mean you

wooden juniper
#

O

rancid urchin
#

Ok nvm then

#

ill have to keep looking

#

What would you say a good CPU be for a MC server on 1.14.2 with like 20 people constant

#

Thats not too expensive

golden gust
#

Just go for a reasonable CPU from the past 5 years or so

rancid urchin
#

what should the clock speed be?

golden gust
#

(i mean, for 1.14 throwing a faster CPU at it won't help too much, tbh, it's more a design issue)

#

Aim for an e3 or something

void void
#

That's at least a v3

#

so like a E3 1230v3

rancid urchin
#

ok

void void
#

or better.

golden gust
#

Yea, those CPUs are surprisingly capable

#

I remember v2 > v3 and being surprised at the perf gain 😄

void void
#

and be prepared to pay about 80 dollars or so for a 16GB node which should be just right.

merry talon
#

wtf is with held torches still not emitting light

wooden juniper
#

friendly, i pay 80€ a month for my 9900k/64gb server

rancid urchin
#

Would an AMD FX8350 run a MC server well?

wooden juniper
void void
#

Seriously if your trying to cheap out your not going to get much at all. At that point your honestly better off on a shared plan if your strapped for cash.

rancid urchin
#

im not i just have one

limber knotBOT
#

the bulldozers where a really special kind of cpu 😂

rancid urchin
#

and its 4Ghz

#

at 8 cores

limber knotBOT
#

amd got sued over them

#

because of how missleading the 8 cores thingies was

#

because the cpu doesn't have 8 cores

rancid urchin
#

I was just wondering if a 8350 could run it

limber knotBOT
#

or well, 8 full cores

void void
#

Intel did that too so no different.

#

They just call it HT instead of cores.

limber knotBOT
#

its not multithreading

#

its not SMT or HT

rancid urchin
#

but anyways

limber knotBOT
#

they just let two "cores" use the same FP AU

#

they lost a class action lawsuit over this

void void
#

Anyways you really need to go rent a server if you don't have those type of hardware that is in the last couple of years as we mentioned that is single threaded performing.

rancid urchin
#

The problem is ive been renting a server, its litterarly just for me and like 15sh friends. I just want to no have to pay monthly. So im looking for a good CPU that could run the server

void void
#

Buying a server won't get rid of your monthly bill. Your electric and probably your Internet bills will be higher.

#

MUCH higher with those things.

#

Oh and let's not forget they BREAK.

#

So in essence your paying a monthly bill+replacements when they break.

rancid urchin
#

I dont care, im 16, and have a minimum wage job, and i take good care of my PCs havent had one break for a while

#

I just need to know, if i could run a server on a FX 8350, That is all

void void
#

Your mom isn't going to like it at all.

rancid urchin
#

I have 7 PCs running rn dude

#

Our electric dosent go up by usage

void void
#

and they are LOUD like lawn mower loud.

rancid urchin
#

its included with the orginization

#

Im getting a tower PC

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not a rack

void void
#

Well okay you still need a decent CPU, let me find that chip that probably right up yoru alley.

rancid urchin
#

Ok Thank you. Thats what i was asking since the start

void void
#

Not even 120 bucks.

rancid urchin
#

my 8350 is better, it even tells it on that website

#

lol

void void
#

is the chart you want.

#

I haven't seen that CPU in that chart up to that cheap butt CPU.

#

So unless you can score a similar CPU at a similar price mark or better I would go for the no brainer G one that can easily support a single instance for 20 (or even more).

#

You can probably get a stellar build for like ~200 dollars or so.

rancid urchin
#

Ok so go with the G4620?

void void
#

Yes

rancid urchin
#

How well would that run a server?

void void
#

VERY well for 20 that is.

rancid urchin
#

Ok what if it reaches like 30-40

#

I dont Expect it to

#

but u never know

void void
#

Yes it will probably do just fine I would say and the FCLGA1151 is the type of board socket you will be looking for it.

rancid urchin
#

ok thanks

void void
#

You are welcomed.

rancid urchin
#

i might go with an i3-7350k

void void
#

Yea see what you can find on Ebay and such from reputable sellers and you may even get a I7 4790K if your lucky since that's a oldie favorite for most mine crafters.

rancid urchin
#

Ok ill give a look

wooden juniper
#

or just wait

#

for ryzen 3rd gen to release

void void
#

It will cost him more for the new parts.

wooden juniper
#

i know

void void
#

Better off getting old parts which are still good.

rancid urchin
#

What should i search for on ebay?

void void
#

I would go with quad core desktops and see what you get.

#

and refer back to the chart.

rancid urchin
#

ok

#

for $350 a i7-4790 with 32GB of ram

void void
#

That's pretty decent indeed.

rancid urchin
#

ooo and a quadro

#

looks up 32GB RAM pc Gets 4GB of RAM PC

#

Thanks Ebay

void void
#

Report the seller if they lied in the titling. Ebay doesn't do that.

rancid urchin
#

i7-4790@3.60GHz,32GB RAM,500GB HDD for $300

#

not bad

merry talon
#

sounds like a scam

grizzled kettle
#

CPU's old, HDDs are slow and you have no idea what frequency the ram is?

#

No deal

void void
#

An I7 4790K is still a killer CPU.

near steeple
void void
#

It's the same darn thing.

#

The K just means it's over clock able.

#

That's it no performance boosts at all.

#

It's not at stock speed.

#

You still has to over clock it.

limber knotBOT
#

well, if you care about having the unlocked multiplier, chances are you will actually use it, lol

void void
#

Exactly so it's not a deal breaker unless your GOING to overclock it to begin wiht.

limber knotBOT
#

don't buy used hdds

#

32gb ram is worth like 100 euro used I guess

#

that cpu I can get new for 300 so I would buy it used for 150 or so

#

plus a mainboard, meh, 300 bucks for that setup isn't that bad

void void
#

He can just buy it and replace it with an SSD and use the HDD as a DR drive.

#

Then once it bricks just buy a new one.

#

Yea not everyone have money (including me).

rare palm
#

@void void @vestal frost what you guys doin here

void void
#

I would call them back, may be further vefification, abuse, etc.

#

You wouldn't want to miss it or even just a notice of some sort.

fallen oracle
#

They want to fix your server.

pulsar wigeon
#

as far as you know 👀

wide chasm
#

"Hello, your server needs more hardcore factions, please add this."

fallen oracle
#

You would know if you weren't at work

#

That's why they called.

#

Imagine

#

Getting a call from OVH asking to be staff on your mc server

void void
#

@spare venture No seriously you need to find out WHY they called you. What if they detected a hardware fault or informing you that they are out of certain component so they would like to arrange a comparable setup for you so you can get continued replacements before the fact or like I said a compliant arose etc etc etc.

#

Not if it urgent or something.

fallen oracle
#

What if they are calling you to tell you that their email servers are down

pulsar wigeon
#

if it's urgent and they missed the call, they'd still email

#

especially so if it's urgent

fallen oracle
#

Not if their email servers were down

pulsar wigeon
#

:^)

#

ok tbh can someone please combine streams and LINQ

#

going between the two is such headaches

#

extension methods are great, lack of method references sucks

#

well, property technically

#

ugh c# why

void void
#

Just call them back... Trust me it will save you in the long run if it something important/needs attention.

fallen oracle
#

The 👏 email 👏 servers 👏 are 👏 down 👏

#

Okay I need to drive brb

void void
#

Well that's kinda important if that was actually the case.

pulsar wigeon
#

not really

#

unless he actualyl needed to email them

#

also uh, voicemail

void void
#

Yea, how would you know if your email got to their servers and read if they didn't tell you in advance?

pulsar wigeon
#

if they needed to reach him

void void
#

Dude hosting isn't something that you can put under a rug espeically if it a DMCA or something.

#

I wouldn't be surprised if they did because those has to be handled VERY VERY VERY quickly.

#

Yea a data center told me that that the one thing that REALLY need attention ASAP.

pulsar wigeon
#

pretty sure you get like 30 days in most cases

#

to respond to a DMCA

#

tbh i don't know if this Friendly guy is retarded or baiting

fresh ermine
#

lmfao i never answer an unknown number if its important leave a voicemail

pulsar wigeon
#

imma go for the former

#

nah, not jail

#

for a DMCA

#

that's a one way ticket to guantanamo

heady spear
#

they will send the DMCA SWAT team and take you to the secret internet prison

fresh ermine
#

ive always wanted to go to cuba

heady spear
#

Also 1h is false, you actually only have 29 minutes

void void
#

No seriously I think US Dedicated told me that or something.

heady spear
#

DMCAs are like meh, also legal disputes take like 952 years anyway

void void
#

Then why would a NOC says that I need to be up on my toes about it if not that "serious"?

pulsar wigeon
#

cuz you use a shitty shared host prob

vestal frost
#

@rare palm did I ever tell you that you’re annoying sometimes?

void void
#

I didn't used a shared host at the time and they don't even sell shared lol.

rare palm
#

No

#

Never

vestal frost
#

weird

rare palm
#

Lmao

heady spear
#

DMCA is dumb American shit and no one cares about dumb American shit.

vestal frost
#

Because there is only ASC

#

American School shooting

#

Wait I ducked up

void void
#

You can call it dumb but it's a legal regulation just like how some people thinks animal protection laws are "dumb". Just because they are referred like that doesn't' means they don't exists and aren't enforced.

heady spear
#

We have fictional school shootings in Sweden. Stream Quicksand on Netflix today.

rare palm
#

Runakai, you still havent answered my question

heady spear
#

Animal protection laws are more sane than dum dum DMCA.

vestal frost
#

Your question was?

rare palm
#

Why are you even here

vestal frost
#

Oh right

void void
#

Still won't change the enforcement "level" even when people thought GDPR was a big "joke" but the EU made it clear and enforced it big time.

heady spear
#

Also, I said it's dumb American shit and that no one cares about dumb American shit. Americans can care about dumb American shit. I don't care, because they're dumb.

vestal frost
#

I need some other things than stupid skunity Skript community wo can’t even type a word into the documentations

fallen oracle
#

Skript?

#

Oh no :(

vestal frost
#

Let’s not start a war here

rare palm
#

Lmao

heady spear
#

So if they want to be dumb and care about their dumb shit then go ahead, let them be dumb. It's still dumb and only dumb people would care about dumb stuff like that

vestal frost
#

Let us just quit the topic

fallen oracle
rare palm
#

Lets count how many dumb will Cityweebstret say

vestal frost
#

And why did you post that here @fallen oracle

fallen oracle
#

I thought everyone was posting memes

#

Honestly I got nothing against Skript, if you don't know Java, it's a simple time saver.

vestal frost
#

And the war begins pikoh

fallen oracle
#

No it's good, that's all the ammo I go

#

Got

rare palm
#

Skript is honestly one of the worst plugins ive ever seen

#

It reduces thr server's performance by 150%

merry talon
#

Skript hate to that level is just bandwagoning

#

It can be useful

vestal frost
#

Amar why didn’t you just stop

merry talon
#

But not to the level that people start obfuscating it

rare palm
#

Im just starting drama

fallen oracle
#

It does a few other security issues, but let's not fight. Sorry for initiating it.

rare palm
#

Lmao

merry talon
rare palm
#

Im bored af

#

So

#

🤷

vestal frost
#

Then go make some pancakes or whatever

#

Or try helping on skunity

#

But don’t start a skript vs java fight

#

There have been enough already

rare palm
#

I almost got muted for being in one of them

#

No one is in skunity

vestal frost
#

Then make some Skripts and find issues

rare palm
#

I meant no one is asking

#

I dont have a pc

pulsar wigeon
#

use commandhelper instead

#

:^)

merry talon
#

Its like comparing apples and oranges lol

rare palm
#

No

#

Use commamd blocks

pulsar wigeon
#

also holy fuck glare that skrambler shit

merry talon
#

you don't write scripts in C

pulsar wigeon
#

how retarded

#

does it just add capital letters in between everywhere?

#

wat

#

like, the original code is still legible if you read between the "obfuscation"

stiff yarrow
#

imagine wanting to obfuscate your code

merry talon
#

yeah you can undo that with like

rare palm
#

There is a deobfuscator online

merry talon
#

a few chars of regex

heady spear
#

I obfuscate my code by writing it in Swedish :3

vestal frost
#

I obfuscate my code by only thinking of it and never really writing it.

rare palm
#

Lol

golden gust
#

Remember

heady spear
#

no, one does not simply remember

vestal frost
#

Guys who plays smash ultimate

pulsar wigeon
golden gust
#

Always program like the next programmer is going to be some homicidal maniac

stiff yarrow
#

@pulsar wigeon yikes

vestal frost
#

There’s an obfuscated that replaces every char with {@} I think

pulsar wigeon
#

oBfUsCaTeD sKrIpT cOdE

merry talon
#

let's be honest

#

thats good enough for its target audience

vestal frost
#

Most skripters wont even understand the not obfuscated one

rare palm
#

Lmao so true

vestal frost
#

I mean if they’d learn the basics and would even be able to tell me what a condition or effect is by giving me some examples okay sure, but they just redo everything that’s been done on YouTube and all YouTube tutorials (99%, really) are just shit because it’s outdated as fuck

#

and the most annoying thing is saying "doesn’t work" without saying ANYTHING about the code, errors, Mc and skript version lmao

rare palm
#

Why dont you make a tutorial on yt then

vestal frost
#

I won’t spend my time doing something on YouTube that’s been done on the forum already

rare palm
#

But it would make it easier for people

vestal frost
#

Would they look at it before asking in the help channels? No. Same basic shit

rare palm
#

And you could get lots of views if its actually good, since people would link it

vestal frost
#

I’d get a ton of requests and stupid questions being asked, no thanks

#

I continue training my lady wii fit on smash, bye

rare palm
#

You have a point

heady spear
#

Swithing to toml for my configuration files was one of my best decisions ever

stiff yarrow
#

HOCON PES_Happy

void void
#

Remember everyone there no such thing as a stupid question.

limber knotBOT
#

toml is awful, hocon ftw

#

(said nobody ever)

stiff yarrow
heady spear
#

wtf is hocon and why should I care?

stiff yarrow
#

why do I care if you care weSmart

heady spear
#

you do because you're weirdly obsessed with me

pulsar wigeon
#

says the guy who crushes on everyone

heady spear
#

daddy you know that's normal

pulsar wigeon
#

good morning z750

upper flicker
#

Wow that’s a shitty one

#

Horrible loop 0/10

pulsar wigeon
#

yea tf it cuts off

#

-5/7

stiff yarrow
#

oof that loop

void void
#

Wow for some reason my web host left my main domain unsecured for 4 DAYS.

heady spear
#

why is my redis doing dumb and not letting pubsub work :(( sadness #pray

merry talon
#

what do you people need that yaml doesn't provide

void void
#

No there aren't except the ones you dont' ask.

stone fog
#

Is there a plugin for players to trade items with others? ex:put up 20 diamond to trade for 100gold

merry talon
#

many

pulsar wigeon
#

11:40 AM] [object Promise]: what do you people need that yaml doesn't provide
be at least somewhat difficult for admins to completely fuck up by e.g. adding a space or tab where it doesn't belong

merry talon
#

that's not your problem

upper flicker
#

Comments is the big one

pulsar wigeon
#

it is if they pester me

tropic flame
#

if a server admin can't change a simple YAML config then they shouldn't run a server

pulsar wigeon
#

yaml supports comments :^)

merry talon
#

yaml has comments?

upper flicker
#

No it doesn’t

pulsar wigeon
#

just bukkit's inbuilt lib sucks for them

upper flicker
#

The spec doesn’t support attaching data to nodes

pulsar wigeon
#

oh, you mean node-specific comments

void void
#

to be fair YAMLs are PITR sometimes.

#

Like this one plugin that was acting odd.

upper flicker
#

Still better than json like half the shitty nodejs apps use

#

But as far as config languages there are plenty of better ones

merry talon
#

they use json with comments a lot of the time tbf

limber knotBOT
#

Hey

tropic flame
#

I find HOCON a bigger cancer than JSON

merry talon
#

I get wanting to use something else for a standalone thing

#

but for plugins that's just wat

upper flicker
#

toml is the simplest but gets really ugly when you start nesting

void void
stiff yarrow
#

YAML aPES_Shake

#

HOCON PES_Happy

#

XML aPES_Hacker

upper flicker
#

No one wants to deal with parsing your filthy xml

heady spear
#

toml is ez pz to use

#

and ez pz to parse

#

and v pretty

static badge
#

personally I prefer key=value

#

simple yet god tier

stiff yarrow
#

Toml kind of seems messy

pulsar wigeon
#

.properties is the real config format

upper flicker
#

spotted writes his own properties files Windows XP style

pulsar wigeon
#

worldedit forge still uses .properties

#

since there wasn't any config format available when it was first ported

#

and we didn't want to bundle snakeyaml

stiff yarrow
#

snakeyaml 🤢

merry talon
#

you know what really grinds my gears

pulsar wigeon
#

bukkit uses snakeyaml...?

stiff yarrow
#

yeah

#

and its shit

merry talon
#

Twitter not having a save tweet function

pulsar wigeon
#

to be fair, WE is pretty light on config options

merry talon
#

There was a good thread on xml

upper egret
heady spear
#

snakeyaml isn't that bad

merry talon
#

it's just gson but weird

stiff yarrow
#

I mean yaml in general is just aPES_Shake

heady spear
#

this is worse than those pmc people

pulsar wigeon
#

wat is CAS

upper flicker
#

Close air support

heady spear
#

Creativity activity and service. It’s force extracurriculars for the international baccalaureate diploma programme

pulsar wigeon
#

I only know of the Chemical Abstracts Service

#

.g cas number

limber knotBOT
#

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heady spear
#

You need to do around 150h of extracurricular activities to get your IB high school diploma, and then write monthly reflections explaining how you’ve grown as a person from those activities

merry talon
#

Carp assassination simulation

pulsar wigeon
#

that sounds retarded

#

tbh

heady spear
#

One learning outcome is global engagement, which I guess this kid was aiming for.

pulsar wigeon
#

what subreddit is that anyway

heady spear
#

It is a neat way to ensure that you have enough extracurricular activities for college applications

#

The IBO subreddit.

pulsar wigeon
#

oh

#

that's a thing

heady spear
#

The IBO being the international baccalaureate organisation

pulsar wigeon
#

yea had to look that up

#

sounds 🚮

#

why do you mod that

heady spear
#

The IBDP is for try hards that want to not be able to enjoy their high school experience because of a stupid amount of course work

#

Because I’m an IBO alumnus 🤷

#

And these kids need my wisdom

pulsar wigeon
#

do they just let all the alums mod

heady spear
#

No

pulsar wigeon
#

cuz that sounds dumb too

#

did you apply

heady spear
#

Yes

pulsar wigeon
#

cuz that's dumb too

#

oh, figures

#

you are dumb

heady spear
#

I had to write en essay explaining why I’m fit

#

Then have weird discord interview

#

Then there was a trial

#

For a month

pulsar wigeon
#

wow

#

why would you even want to do that

#

do you just crave power

#

over the masses of uneducated kids

heady spear
#

So I can help these kids through the IBDP

#

I happen to care a lot about education 😃

#

That said, the subreddit is just a bunch of suicide memes and sharing of illegally obtained documents.

fresh ermine
#

lmfao ive had someone do that for /r/gmod @pulsar wigeon

#

shit wrong person

#

my bad

pulsar wigeon
#

fuck u

fresh ermine
pulsar wigeon
merry talon
#

being a mod of r/gmod

#

you must hate yourself

fresh ermine
#

its not nearly as bad as the official gmod discord

#

that im thankful for

#

🙏

void void
#

Geehz now I got a web host to axe too... Geehz they do not get that a process is usually ran for Cpanel/WHM servers by standard DAILY to ensure that AutoSSL certs are issued/renewed AUTOMATICALLY. Saying that my service is unmanned and blah blah blah. Oh and refusing to tell me what happened to the emails that shouldn't also TOLD me about it before they went, during and after...

#

And telling me to configure a internal email to get them in the future.

scarlet breach
limber knotBOT
#

Hmm

merry talon
#

why would you use a shared web host anyway

void void
#

Cheap and it comes in a can.

merry talon
#

only way that makes sense is if you're using php

#

which then you have other problems

void void
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I didn't paid like nothing for it it was 3.99/month for only 5GB of SSD disk space.

fresh ermine
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shared hosting WutFace

vestal jasper
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5GB

heady spear
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Moderating subreddits is tolerable

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Moderating discords fucking sucks

void void
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That what I mean if I got so low of disk space you would THINK I would get superb support for the premium I paid.

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right?

merry talon
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because reddit actually has tools for mods

heady spear
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Reddit toolbox is good ye

fresh ermine
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It's not horrible moderating either /r/gmod or /r/lilpeep but the discord can be annoying as fuck yeah

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but the gmod devs made an official discord just a few months ago after ours has been out for ages

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and my god it is the most toxic pithole ive ever been in lmfao

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the devs literally just don't care enough to moderate the server

heady spear
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We also have an official discord, but I refuse to moderate it.

merry talon
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there's a separate one for gmod developers

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it's much better

void void
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Why would they right? Not like they are paid for the job to sit in Discord all day and listening to people birch all day right?

fresh ermine
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yeah i know what one you are talking about object

heady spear
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People try to chest constantly, so there are secret staff from the official IBO monitoring shit with us

fresh ermine
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why would they even make one when there was one made with an established community if they didn't want to run it in the first palce

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gmod devs are childish people

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in general

heady spear
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The IB is ultra strict about academic honesty, and they will send out undercover agents to high schools as well

fresh ermine
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well a good chunk of their team is

heady spear
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In 2018 some kid in South America managed to get ahold of the exams before people were taking them. They found out via a messenger group, and revoked the diplomas for everyone in Argentina

fresh ermine
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Damn

heady spear
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They kind of have to do that shit because they grade on a curve, and people from half the world take the same exam at the same time

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If someone manages to leak an exam it will throw off the curve completely, and college applications will be totally fucked up

fresh ermine
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there was a time about a year and a half ago where the gmod developers got pissy with us because we got /r/playsandbox and they didn't and they took it to threatening our entire moderator team (/r/gmods) and saying they were getting reddit admins involved

merry talon
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lol

fresh ermine
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literal children in my books

merry talon
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sounds about right

wide chasm
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Here they have backup exams in case some get leaked. If it happens afterwards though, everything gets revoked as well.

merry talon
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facepunch is pretty bottom of the barrel

heady spear
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So sometimes we get people trying to hit up people in earlier time zones (+- 1h) and we report them to the IB security team that will launch an investigation

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Lol people on Reddit can be hella dumb

vestal jasper
fresh ermine
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one of the FP devs Leila constantly shits on and talks about one of our staff members behind their back in the official gmod server about something that happened about 3 years ago

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I actively avoid the FP dev team at this point because they really just don't care in general lmfao

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i joined their discord around when avengers came out and it was chock full of spoilers, racism, and nsfw pics in about every chat that it was unavoidable

merry talon
heady spear
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stef, here they generally don’t. Sometimes it results in everyone being forced to wait until the next exam session (6 months). It’s very rare though. If it’s a very local leak, they’ll deal with it differently

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Or well, here being in the IB.

wide chasm
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Well, their exams are taken across the world, the exams here are just this country.

heady spear
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Discord has issues again <.<

wide chasm
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So, I guess it makes sense that they do things differently

heady spear
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Ye, I guess it’s different when almost every country is represented and recognises the exam results

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We also host a document server with past exams, textbooks and official documents and they try to take us down almost daily lol

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Like, there are sooooo many backup servers at this point it’s funny. We have people that exclusively deal with updating links and responding to DMCA takedowns :p

wide chasm
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The past exams are hosted online by the government here.

heady spear
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The IB sells them for a looooooot of money

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So they get kinda upset when we make them available for free

wide chasm
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They sell past exams?

heady spear
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Ye

wide chasm
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Why? Here they're just publicly available on a website free to use.

heady spear
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The IB isn’t a national programme. They have a registration fee and exam fee as well

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They also charge for retakes and regrading of graded exams.

wide chasm
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Ouch, that sucks.

heady spear
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Also can discord stop failing to send every fucking message thx =)))

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Ye. In some countries it’s exclusively offered by fancy private schools

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In Sweden and places like the US, it’s offered at normal schools as an alternative to the national programmes.

wide chasm
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I don't think it's offered here at all. Well, it probably is, just don't know anyone here who takes it.

heady spear
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The diploma matters a whole lot more in those countries though. In the US it’s not values as highly

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It is :p

merry talon
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well offering managed service vs support when shit breaks on their end

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are different things

heady spear
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It’s offered in nearly 90 countries, although in many countries only a few select schools are certified. Not a lot of people know about it :p

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Kim Jong-Un took it in Switzerland and supposedly got really poor grades.

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Justin Trudeau took it 😛 And Kesha.

wide chasm
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To be fair, if I were to want to do that programme, I'd have no clue where to go. I don't think anyone here would know what you were talking about either if you mentioned it.

heady spear
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And some astronauts and important CEOs and whatnot. I think Kesha is the most important tho

pulsar wigeon
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sounds like a rich person thing

heady spear
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Uhm, over 3300 universities recognize it. In Sweden they just convert into into Swedish grades when you apply to uni

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I don’t think you’d have any problem nationally or internationally.

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Also, most bigger/notable universities will have specific information for IB applicants

fresh ermine
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excuse me

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kesha?

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the singer

heady spear
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Why the fuck am I advertising this shit

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The IB was horrible and most kids break down before they can take the exams

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Half of my class dropped out before the last year

wide chasm
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lol

fresh ermine
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sounds like classic insanely hard standardized testing

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yep

pulsar wigeon
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AP is built into a lot of high schools tho

heady spear
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It’s like AP but with way more specific requirements.

pulsar wigeon
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IB seems to be more snotty

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:^)

fresh ermine
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AP classes ruined me dab

heady spear
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You need to take 6 IB subjects, write an independent research project and also take a course in philosophy called theory of knowledge

wide chasm
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I still don't even know why you'd want to do the IB actually, other than you have a different diploma.

fresh ermine
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and now im in college and finished my first year, i have still yet to expereince anything as hellish as an AP class

heady spear
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On top of that you need those 150 hours of extracurricular activists to graduate

fresh ermine
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Architecture / Interior Design

heady spear
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Three classes are taken at higher level, being 240h and three are standard level, being 150h

fresh ermine
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i know theres classes in college that can get super hard but AP classes brand themselves as college prep

heady spear
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Unless you go to some extremely competitive uni you’re not going to approach that level of difficulty lol

fresh ermine
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i took AP classes to raise my GPA lmfao

heady spear
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The IB and AP classes are all too difficult to make sense.

fresh ermine
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i fucked around too much my first 2 years of highschool so i needed to take classes to raise my GPA

heady spear
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If I would have applied to Glasgow I could have skipped the first year of the bachelors programme because of IB chemistry. So, no. Not a joke.

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Everything we’ve done this year at uni was covered in IB higher levels lol

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The level is higher, but I doubt the pace/level of content is that much higher

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Computer engineering. First year. My point is, they are way more difficult than they have to be, given that advertise themselves as college prep.

fresh ermine
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^^ i agree

heady spear
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Do those courses require prior knowledge? Then of course not