I write typescript and Vue in webstorm just fine
#general
limber knotBOT
merry talon
can it format and lint anything you want to use in your single file components?
limber knotBOT
I just delegate to stylelint
merry talon
which templating engine
limber knotBOT
And my format is stylelint fix file
vestal jasper
pug 
merry talon
that wont fix your template and ts though
limber knotBOT
What do you mean by templating engine?
merry talon
as in.. pug
vestal jasper
JSX, Pug, etc
limber knotBOT
.g pug js
(MiniDigger) https://pugjs.org/ -- Pug: Getting Started: "The general rendering process of Pug is simple. pug.compile() will compile the Pug source code into a JavaScript function that takes a data object..."
merry talon
so you're just using html I gather
..which I don't suspect stylelint will touch either
vestal jasper
Handlebars and Mustache too
limber knotBOT
Yeah I dont do much frontend 😂
You use a templating engine in your Vue templates?
That's seems unnecessary?
I just use thymeleaf on the server
merry talon
well those two are irrelevant because vue does the expressions/placeholders itself
but pug because its easier than writing html
limber knotBOT
Ah ok
Need to give that a closer look then
I know jsx and always thought about it as a con for react
merry talon
yea I'm not a fan of that
acoustic pilot
vuenite! vue masterrace
merry talon
dont forget nuxt
void void
havent tried it yet
I learned vue because i put it on a resume and applied to a job with it, and i had no exp with it
so i tried it and love it now
fierce knoll
west wyvern
ancient bolt
I hate IPv6 so much...
but I want everything to use IPv6 at the same time
but it sucks so much to use
😦
wide hazel
I never asked
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.g spartan anticheat spigotmc
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/spartan-anticheat-advanced-detections-hack-blocker.25638/ -- Spartan AntiCheat | Advanced Detections | Hack Blocker |...: "Spartan is an anti-cheat solution that aims to prevent every major detectable hack. It is dependency & addition free, requires little to no ..."
icy viper
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This update was released to implement secure connection to the Piracy protection. The IP logging feature has been removed as well, and any logged IPs have been deleted.
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log in motherfucker
wide hazel
Fiiiine
Wait wait wait
What the fuck
Why does that single plugin get anti-piracy protection?
wide hazel
That's against spigot ToS afaik
I had a plug-in removed for something similar
Or denied anyway
wide hazel
Dunno
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see this is a z question
wide hazel
Basically Spigot's stance is "we already inject your plugin with DRM on download, so you don't need any"
Anti-piracy shit annoys me because it's often poorly implemented
wide hazel
Even EA and Ubisoft get it wrong a lot
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the moment you realise you need to actually run the code eventually
you're fucked
period
vestal jasper
Iirc it's been reported like 5 times since it was made and spigot don't want to even respond to anything about it
wide hazel
Shit's hard, and some rando who just picked up Java thinks they have a golden fucking goose of an idea
native thunder
Lmfao drm on Java
vestal jasper
did you guys see his non answer announcement? it's pretty funny
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paste it here :>
vestal jasper
instead of saying sorry for breaking the law he's just like sorry you're mad that I broke the law
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"yes am reputable yet no disclosure"
native thunder
Yikes
vestal jasper
If he was reputable, he isn't any longer
arctic glade
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how many people read update logs tbh :>
native thunder
Did someone gdpr request him or something?
wide hazel
YOUR INTENT IS NOT THE ISSUE
vestal jasper
I went into his discord and publicly announced that he's doing it
wide hazel
The fuuuuck
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LUL you actually did that?
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show the logs of the people who reacted 
vestal jasper
it's like 5 pages of messages
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copy pasta copy pasta copy pasta
vestal jasper
native thunder
Lmao
void void
What was he doing? Storing IPs?
vestal jasper
wide hazel
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
vestal jasper
He was storing the ips of all ops/admins on every server running spartan
Without disclosing this
void void
I see
vestal jasper
And over http
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over http 
void void
F
wide hazel
The over http kills me
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probably stores em plaintext
vestal jasper
wide hazel
What's a firewall
vestal jasper
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like idk man if ur talking bout reputable and u can't even bother to encrypt sensitive data like that wtf r u doing
wide hazel
The whole "you have to keep up on our terms" thing has often been thrown out of American court, but sure
The laws about ToS, etc follow an "average person's common sense" thing
vestal jasper
I'm not sure sneakily storing the ips of ops/admins is allowed either
At least with bstats you can opt out before plugins use it
limber knotBOT
someone should leave him a negative review in spigot comments, stating what he did, he'll get so mad ^_^
wide hazel
Putting "we own your children", for example, in a ToS will absolutely not hold up
limber knotBOT
i like when that guy gets mad
native thunder
Did anyone who owns the plugin check if he actually removes the logging?
vestal jasper
He did
Multiple people who own it verified it was removed
Including the person who found the thing to begin with
Interestingly this was discovered when someone was trying to find out why chat messages were being cancelled
wide hazel
If I had one thing to say to him, it would be "the road to hell is often paved with good intentions."
limber knotBOT
the spartan guy is a retard tho
wide hazel
Alrighty, am off to bed now
vestal jasper
Also his code is pretty bad
limber knotBOT
please dont use his stuff, your server will be better off
vestal jasper
We spent a good hour looking through the decompiled plugin looking for anything shady and there was quite a bit of trash code
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Optional<Boolean>
wide hazel
I try not to, but it happens
vestal jasper
I do too. I'm relatively new to programming. But holy shit some of it is next level.
I found like 7 instances where he assigns variables and then hard codes the value elsewhere in the same class.
wide hazel
I think that optional can also be summed up with "road to hell"
vestal jasper
And I only looked through maybe 20 classes.
His obfuscator is also the worst one I've ever seen.
void void
what are we talking about boys
vestal jasper
Spartan anticheat
vestal jasper
it stores the ips of admins and ops too
so they'd have to be made aware of it too
I guess at that point it's the responsibility of the person who installed the plugin?
I'm not well versed on gdpr law so I really don't know
wide hazel
Gdpr says you have the right to know beforehand, and request access easily later, and request removed as well
Not that they can't log
"easily" being the sticking point
Also the requested info has to be readable by the average person
vestal jasper
He says he's a european too so he must've known that not disclosing it would've been a violation right?
Or did he just bank on no one finding it
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eu is 90% retarded anyways
vestal jasper
I mean it sounds like it's a very basic level thing
wide hazel
And they have lawyers
vestal jasper
store information without the user's acknowledgement
sounds like a very black/white thing
vestal jasper
though yeah last I heared from someone who properly knew more about gdpr, it's a bit messy and vague
wide hazel
Needs to be told to the user before they use it, in a place they can easily see it
vestal jasper
in a place they can easily see it
is general visibility also important?
or is accessibility pretty much what's wanted
wide hazel
From what I understand, yes
It also seems to work on a common-sense, average-person thing
vestal jasper
I guess his terms of use aren't that hard to find. last thing on the page.
wide hazel
I suspect many points will be clarified in courts
wide hazel
Yeah
vestal jasper
viewing of source code is protected by law in some countries, US included iirc
wide hazel
That's also in Spigot's ToS, except they require perms to decompile themselves
Am I the only one that reads these things?
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yeah
vestal jasper
I read some of it, usually when the topic is brought up
golden gust
most ToSes are just generic BS/obvious shit
vestal jasper
I don't like when people say codes instead of code
golden gust
open source codes
vestal jasper
3. You are not permitted to use, view or modify any of the plugin's codes.
i see this extremely commonly and it slightly bothers me
wide hazel
It's multiple code /s
vestal jasper
plugin's code pls
native thunder
That's correct though isn't it?
vestal jasper
No one who's well versed in english really ever says plugin's codes
native thunder
The plugin's code
vestal jasper
The plugin's code
Is the extreme majority in how it's said
wide hazel
P'l'u'g'i'n's's' code's'
native thunder
I don't understand the nit pick
native thunder
The good 'ol shotgun approach
vestal jasper
It sounds really jarring to me
wide hazel
One of the episodes in season 5 of Silicon Valley everyone kept calling themselves "coders"
Bothered me slightly
Never liked the term. Not exactly descriptive, and sounds a bit slang
ancient bolt
Well got ipv6 DNS rerouting back to the pihole via USG
Unifi doesn't have support for that in ipv6 (yet at least) so I had to do it with iptables
So that sucked
But it works
void void
what is an easy way to override sendMessage() for a player?
do I create a new class that extends/implements Player and override it that way?
void void
i want to color format it
normal echo
What's the use case?
vestal jasper
What kind of plugin doesn't already format their messages
And iirc there are plugins to intercept plugin messages and let you force modify them
void void
i want to have a unified color for all sendMessage
I know I can do a static color translate function, but I wanna try this way
or maybe its a stupid way
normal echo
Just make a helper function then, no need to override player
surreal moth
It’ll may be stupid difficult by interface implementation violence
normal echo
Just makes things ugly
vestal jasper
it might be possible with reflection
good luck with that though
intercepting packets is probably better imo
deep shoal
how can I do the item_break effect
with a dye
playEffect(lcoation, ITEM_BREAK, Material.DYE)
how do I change the dye color
terse fern
coral radish
void void
wzrd what were you even trying to do
quasi valley
apparently you can sprint while sneaking ripperoni
or rather you don't stop sprinting and are actually faster than normal sneaking 😂
fiery sluice
void void
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mfw IdentityHashMap has no load factor option
limber knotBOT
@void void I was interviewing for redacted
void void
what lmao
limber knotBOT
wzrd answers demanded
simpleauthority: REDACTED
;)
WHAT
oh
the fuck is that
a tracker?
yep
cool
cedar spade
just use mixins ™ ez
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implement Player
vestal jasper
the fact that the slider in the redacted ch site can't be moved is deeply upsetting
void void
same
limber knotBOT
1.14.2 is looking good. One thing though. Every 5min I am getting a tps dip. Not much but very regular.
Any ideas what this could be?
limber knotBOT
Did not see this in 1.13.2. Is it new?
void void
1.14.2 is quite new and has its own issues, so yep everything takes time
i'd still wait a bit until pushing 1.14.2 into production
limber knotBOT
I mean this looks good imo but you can see what I mean here https://timings.aikar.co/?id=36c647ca80734a558a38be53d5792a0c
void void
ye smells like world save
void void
not much you can do imo, maybe bump the interval up a bit and maybe broadcast when a save is incoming
limber knotBOT
Guess if I bump up the interval the dip will just be deeper but fewer in between?
void void
id assume so too, more stuff to save
limber knotBOT
btw I am using the same paper.yml server.conf etc as I had in 1.13.2. Has anything been changed there?
server.properties spigot.yml paper.yml are the same ones I used in 1.13.2...blah...sry
should that cause any issues?
void void
maybe double check spawn rates and similarly to a fresh one
kind of impossible for me to say without any context
limber knotBOT
Ill do that. Thx.
worn ember
Send bobs plz
remote dagger
halcyon trail
void void
ooof
limber knotBOT
Hey
worn ember
i gotchu fam
limber knotBOT
What
void void
k going to bed
spiral totem
Can someone explain to me how the worldborder plugin and nether/end interact? Is the spawn/center concentric with the overworld? Do I have to make the nether 1/8 of the overworld size? Does just setting the border centered around spawn (whatever that means for nether/end) work?
hoary coral
Wait... Thats illegal..
spiral totem
But how do I set it so that somebody who enters the nether near overworld spawn doesn't end up directly next to the border there? What happens when somebody crosses the overworld border in nether and then teleports back?
safe dagger
golden gust
Your nether would need to be larger than your world then, after the *8
earnest violet
limber knotBOT
What on earth is causing the big lag spike every 5min? Beside that everything is super smooth. 1.14.2
pulsar wigeon
autosaving
limber knotBOT
but that is set for 6000 sec in bukkit.yml?
limber knotBOT
[wizjany] ^
ahh ticks
So if I change that to say 18000 what would happen?
This server has not been down once in like 6 months
[wizjany] you'd get a massive lag spike every 15 minutes instead
acoustic pilot
depending on how saving works now (i'm not too fond of the newer versions), it might even be a bigger lag spike because it has more to save
limber knotBOT
Is this something that is a known issue?
[wizjany] pretty sure 1.14 wasn'tout 6 months ago
golden gust
Yes, there have been issues on the tracker and there is an issue on mojangs tracker, not sure if it's open or not still
But, 1.14 is basically touted as not being production ready by pretty much every dev community
limber knotBOT
electroniccat, the lag spike is getting harder as time goes on. Noticed that memory seems to be creeping at bit too.
lol yeah that could be a reason
So chunk unloading needs to be worked on too I guess
there is a solution. A crontab 0 * * * * /sbin/shutdown -r now
yeah ppl might get annoyed...
barty $ uptime
16:24:49 up 212 days, 15:13, 1 user, load average: 4.58, 4.05, 4.48
So 212 days... not bad =)
[wizjany] system uptime generally has little to do MC server uptime
ofc I had to to upgrade 1.13.2. So the game did have a down time
When Debian 10 GNU/Linux comes out Ill have to shutdown the servers. Should be a few months at most
limber knotBOT
16:50:09 up 11 days, 15:31, 1 user, load average: 1.19, 1.17, 1.18
:P
No idea hw loads work
s/hw/how
Correction, <wzrd> No idea how loads work
limber knotBOT
Ah
acoustic pilot
but that load might be distributed across cores, too
limber knotBOT
And the three numbers?
acoustic pilot
if you got 2 cores and your load is 2.5, you're really pushing it
acoustic pilot
5 minute, 10 minute and 15 minute averages
i think
maybe 1 minute?
but they are time averages
limber knotBOT
Ohh okay
sudden pulsar
ornate spindle
@sturdy fulcrum do you have the username TestPlugins?
sturdy fulcrum
No but I think glare has it
ornate spindle
mainly because of your testplugins server thing, unless that is someone else's
limber knotBOT
wzrd, I don't think anybody actually know how load works. Its the most retarded metric on earth
yeahsure: lmao
void void
is it possible to make animated motd?
barty ma bro fyrom
is there plugin
for animated motd
yes when you join the server
in chat
when you join the srv
you sure?
alpine basalt
Hey could anyone tell me if theres a way for players to use unsafe enchantments on an anvil? It just maxes it out at the default max
left yacht
what does that make me barty, [root@sarah1 ~]# uptime
10:57:18 up 1092 days, 10:07, 2 users, load average: 0.16, 0.24, 0.24
[root@sarah1 ~]#
😛
golden gust
You know
limber knotBOT
heh
golden gust
if it wasn't for OVHs kernel, I'd be there too 😦
left yacht
it's a random kimsufi
dapper nacelle
Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskLater(plugin, () -> consumer.accept("str"), 1);
```is there a better way to make this directly accept a consumer?they don't even sell this model anymore
Model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570S CPU @ 3.10GHz
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 097 097 000 Old_age Always - 27924
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 060 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 16
3.18 years for that hdd, poor thing.
limber knotBOT
oh its like that now... https://paste.debian.net/1073391/
3.18 years is on a SSD?
I prolly would not put my bitcoin stash on that thing xD
Would be awesome if you could "hot swap" your kernel. Or at least patch it without rebooting
golden gust
You can
acoustic pilot
@golden gust you mean you'd use OVH if not for their kernel? o.o
limber knotBOT
remember there was talk about this...
golden gust
I mean, OVHs kernel had some issues that was blowing my box up
acoustic pilot
just sayin but their kernel is an optional feature that's enabled by default during install
left yacht
one 8 core chip destroying a dual 8 core E5 from 2014.
acoustic pilot
it should be just a checkbox that you untick
limber knotBOT
electroniccat, well if it is just "blowing your machine up" I guess it can be overlooked
golden gust
Yea, just ended up installing the ubuntu kernel on there and removing ovh's
Don't think I actually installed this box, it was one I got with a mate who also uses it, but tbh doesn't even really touch it these days as he ended up outgrowing that and using a home nas/few dedis
limber knotBOT
electroniccat, its called getting pragmatic and sensible.
golden gust
hm?
hallow radish
limber knotBOT
electroniccat, look at that retarded setup I have on my server. Have a ZFS RAIDZ-2 with x6 WD Reds used for a NAS. Then using VFIO to pass gear through to QEMU machines left and right...just stupid.
I mean it works...but it is more energy then its worth.
and what happens if it "blows up"
A little fbsd server nas in its own box in a corner would be a lot starter.
void void
@acoustic pilot i unticked that box, however ovh kernel still got installed ;-;
absolutely disgusting
limber knotBOT
agree...disgusting!
void void
also they don't seem to install it as a package, they unpack it on root filesystem?
with papermc can u use spigot plugins
?
void void
also I see waterfall is available with multiversion I can use plugins like that for paper to make it multiversion right?
golden gust
Yes, however that's not recommended
dapper nacelle
Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskLater(plugin, () -> consumer.accept("str"), 1);
```can I have the consumer as input in here?now I am using a runnable regardless so it's not quite what I wanted
golden gust
What are you wanting to do, post some sync task and wait for it?
dapper nacelle
I want to store a consumer somewhere and schedule an execution
the runnable does need some input
it has to take BlockState
golden gust
Then you'd need to extend Runnable or Consumer and basically provide a place for it to store that
dapper nacelle
Block block = location.getBlock();
BlockState oldState = block.getState();
block.setType(Material.AIR);
Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskLater(plugin, (Runnable) oldState::update, 100);
I need to execute multiple actions in the runnable
this is creating a new runnable every time it is executed, right?
I might as well store it
golden gust
Yes, it's also a method lambda, if you wanted to do more in that you'd need a proper lambda so you can do more
weak bobcat
lost creek
is the mob count in the jar file a server wide cap, or a per player cap? Monsters: 70, peaceful: 30, ambient: 15 etc?
err... yml file. sorry
fading haven
void void
spiral garden
@void void ivan has infected the velocity server
void void
i know
deep shoal
How can I get the direction an offline player is facing (will be facing when they log back in)
limber knotBOT
This is really nuts. More or less all lag I have on the server is every 5min when the server does saves.... https://timings.aikar.co/?id=d8246a9ae3cd4f6eae40b580b87705d8
Its not even saving that much
Any ideas when this might be fixed?
wide chasm
Paper isn't really a mod, rather it's just a server application.
austere ivy
Songoda doesn't seem too bad anymore.
Someone was saying she was like super bad and something like that but she came on and seemed to have debunked that.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
acoustic pilot
the master baiter is at it again
austere ivy
I'm not talking about the plugins or anything.
void void
spiral garden
there is a lot of proof
of course someone would want to defend themselves
but you can't just keep having shitty behaviour
and expect people to trust you
austere ivy
Yeah I don't know, I don't really want to get into that drama though.
.. which I did, a lot, and I regret that now.
remote dagger
dapper nacelle
player.getTargetBlock(10);
```this should return null if the blocks 10 blocks in front of the player is air, right?or is it the same as java return player.getLocation().getDirection().normalize().multiply(10).toLocation(player.getWorld()).add(player.getLocation()).getBlock();
ornate spindle
it could if there weren't so many item frames and chunk ticking was actually limitable
acoustic pilot
ban item frames, problem solved 😄
could probably tick item frames less frequently
ornate spindle
they're already being ticked rather slowly
ornate spindle
metric shit ton slower than that
acoustic pilot
20 would still be acceptable i think
up to a 1 second delay for changes to be visible by player
ornate spindle
yeah :/
this is why you guys should never allow a server's world to go unreset for 2 years
ornate spindle
btw this is what I mean by a metric shit ton hanging-tick-frequency: 440
acoustic pilot
that's why im only interested in skyblock/fac type servers, maps reset quite frequently
ornate spindle
never go with survival/towny
acoustic pilot
oh cool there's already a setting for that, didnt know
tardy lynx
survival/semi-vanilla = farms + lag
acoustic pilot
damn, and it's still laggy
ornate spindle
can't really join since I have a cap at 100 players to allow only donors to join afterwards due to obvious reasons
placid thicket
whoops
was attempting to relight a few chunks after deleting a build, didn't go as expected XD
normally torches just break and fall if there is nothing supporting them, not anymore apparantly, particle lag was intense
austere ivy
When you're on that,
Ban daylight sensors too.
Each daylight sensor in the loaded chunks updates every block around it once every 3-4 seconds for the entirety of sunrise and sunset.
Sunrise/sunset makes my TPS drop by 1-0.5, it's awful.
And when you have pathways lighted by reversed daylight sensors on top of redstone lamps, it's like 200 daylight sensors updating every block around them 15 times during sunset and sunrise
left yacht
we don't tolerate anything below 20 tps.
so it's always a struggle
we stopped adding content just to purely focused on optimizing stuff.
hybrid tundra
hybrid tundra
1.14 😦
austere ivy
This is running 1.12
I can't imagine running this on 1.14
It's not too bad though since it's a void world and players build from that.
shut stone
limber knotBOT
were we're going we don't need any tps
void void
Anyone know of a Random Teleport plugin that actually works on 1.14.x. That very plugin name is not doing it for normal players and just giving them the cooldown timer remaining (not ACTUALLY teleporting them).
arctic lance
tardy pond
void void
A a whole server stack plugin right? I am looking for "stand alone" plugin for that.
on how much should i put autosave?
now its on 6000
that means 5min?
dapper nacelle
austere ivy
@spare venture yikes.
austere ivy
Uhhh. I don't know haha.
void void
maybe on 30mins?
The plugin didn't enabled.
and yes I have Vault and that turned on just fine.
and it was said to be "tested" for that version too.
Huh I DO have vault installed [19:03:15 ERROR]: [Wild] [%s] - Disabled due to no Vault dependency found!
so should i put
autosave on 30mins?
Indeed.
thats 36000
limber knotBOT
Reminder for DiscordBot: Today is monday, I'm going to guess you did absolutely nothing productive this week and if you did I'm proud of you, but if you didn't, get your life together @austere ivy
Reminder for DiscordBot: NO ACTUALLY today is Sunday sorry I forgot.
void void
acoustic pilot
damn, looks like a couple of fans in my computer weren't running in auto-mode, in fact were just disabled in bios lol. gonna assume that explains my periodic BSOD's, esp when OC'd
void void
Who the flip ships a customer PC with disabled fans?
acoustic pilot
well i built it so most likely at some point I messed with some settings in the bios and screwed up
so likely my fault
can definitely hear the fans running now, though
void void
Ahh I thought you brought it and that was the case. Yea always gotta be extra careful if your Overclocking.
old badge
Does anyone know about any nice world generation plugin? Kinda tired of the same world gen minecraft has been using for the past 10 years
austere ivy
Biome Bundle.
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Isn't that a forge mod? I'm looking for a server side plugin
old badge
thanks, will take a look
dapper nacelle
@unreal quarry I just got to implementing what you send yesterday
https://discordapp.com/channels/289587909051416579/555469074080202765/584484028602908697
this links to your snippet, the issue I am facing is that the block just vanishes and never gets back
the issue is not the material
I tried it with Material.STONE too
formal eagle
austere ivy
.addcmd spottedweaboo https://i.redd.it/jpwlw9k4oy131.jpg
dapper nacelle
lol I had to put true in the parameter of the update method
primal ivy
primal ivy
lmao
golden gust
google seems fine here
golden gust
Youtube being youtube?
golden gust
inb4 downdetector went down
void void
spotify, tmobile, facebook, google play, pokemon go, google cloud
google drive too
snapchat apparently
holy fuck this is like
primal ivy
downdetector going down would be simultaneously hilarious and sad
primal ivy
some stuff is a little slow
cedar herald
Opinions on LagAssist?
limber knotBOT
what was the highest chargeback $$$ amount you had to deal with?
cedar herald
@primal ivy no
Someone's talking through an irc bridge
they appear as a bot but it's really just a person
limber knotBOT
i am a bot
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it's just a really advanced Ai
cedar herald
Sure.
cedar herald
More fucking advanced than Cortana or Google Assistant or even Siri
limber knotBOT
siri would have my ass any day
she was nazi, before microsoft dad stepped in and raised her differently
if AI decided that nazis are good, who are you to change its perspective?
merry talon
actually its a gcp total network outage
cedar herald
google cloud is down?
tropic flame
downdetector went down?
well I personally had a little problem when signing in on Youtube, but then I switched to gmail, signed in and went back to youtube and it was normal
deep shoal
a part of google could be down
limber knotBOT
Yeah I haxtored Google. When they pay me 2 BTC Ill allow them back on the net
austere ivy
I'll pay you 10, Yeahsure.
limber knotBOT
I also had Spyware in Sundar Pichai computer. Got pictures of him pulling his wire in front of pornhub
So yeah....he better pay up
dapper nacelle
@golden gust I am trying to clear the inventory of a block if it has one, which interface is on the top chain?
Container, InventoryHolder, BlockInventoryHolder?
limber knotBOT
what is the best way to deal with this autosave lag I am getting every 5min in 1.14.2. I changed the time interval to 30min...is that the best thing for now?
People were starting to loose their shit on my server ...
discord IS mostly down
only that one message went through
And yeah not much you can do other than that
And make sure you're on a fast ssd
bummer...yeah I have a real fast ssd
Is this a known issue?
frozen blaze
limber knotBOT
yes of course its k
known*
AWS status looks green
oh they actually updated that for once
those 100% uptime metrics are completely wrong
Atlassian hosts Statuspage
on AWS
ancient bolt
is that why my google home isn't working
dapper nacelle
is there any way I can get the double chest the player is looking at and only clear the inventory of the part of the double chest I am looking at?
if (oldState instanceof BlockInventoryHolder) {
((Container) block.getState()).getInventory().clear();
player.sendMessage("isContainer");
}
this keeps clearing the whole chest
limber knotBOT
There's no concept of that
The double chest is 1 inventory
Pretty sure when you break one it just spits out the end half of items
native thunder
Find out if you're looking at the left half or right half then clear that half of the inventory
limber knotBOT
that's not what happens when you connect chests or break one
might as well clear arbitrarily half of the items
But if you wanted to emulate one of them breaking its probably just the last X items
the slots are labelled in rows not columns iirc
dapper nacelle
I tried ```java
if (oldState instanceof Container) {
if (oldState instanceof Chest) {
((Chest) block).getBlockInventory().clear();
} else {
((Container) block.getState()).getInventory().clear();
player.sendMessage("isContainer");
}
}
but it failed
casting error
limber knotBOT
have you been reading at all?
ancient bolt
.minecraft
limber knotBOT
(Korobi) Ceiling Fan Trick Knockdown - length 1m 4s - 22,825 likes, 2,164 dislikes (91.3%) - 5,354,384 views - Stuntman89 on 2011.12.30 - NSFW****
void void
is there any plugin that can say in the chat that you will expirience lag in next 10 seconds?
errrr
depends what kind of a lag it is
some plugin could technically hook into world saving, announce that world is being saved soon and you'll may experience a lag
like those shit tier hosting panels do automatic world saves
sweet cave
void void
Is this a cheat/hack client tool? https://aristois.net/faq Because I am confused on what thing exactly is since a player is asking if I use it and they are whispering that that guy shouldn't be asking "me" about it.
earnest fox
Yes
void void
Wow okay, mass banning to do then. Since I got the proofs lol.
heavy rapids
having to compile mods for a game myself because the ABI changed
god bless java
void void
GP auto banned the other guy for spamming lol
limber knotBOT
I am hopping the save-off cmd has nothing to do with autosave in bukkit.yml?
void void
So how do people even deal with these other than them burbling it out in open air? Because HackedServers doesn't even apparently does that despite it's quite steeop price tag.
Because let's be honest it's going to be that easy to ban them in the future lol.
heavy rapids
you mean find hackers? a mix of AC / moderators
old badge
rely on moderators, good anti cheat and player reports
limber knotBOT
mikroskeem, just use tmux then have a crontab like
50 4 * * * /usr/bin/tmux send-keys -t minecraft 'say Scheduled database maintenance at 5:00 CET. May cause a few minuets of minor lag.' ENTER
void void
crontab
limber knotBOT
that is what I have on my server when the db gets pruned
void void
I mean just if they are using a hacked client like the one I wasn't aware of such. That way I can manually ban them if they are actively using one.
systemd timers or bust
heavy rapids
system V ftw
limber knotBOT
+1 like god intended!!!!
void void
ngl openrc is sexy
limber knotBOT
I like it because its Debian...but fuck it is a pain =P
void void
but for every day use, systemd works fine
limber knotBOT
Can I safely run this cmd on my server /save-off and expect the autosave in bukkit.yml to work?
heavy rapids
afaik /save-off is the default state 🤔
so if you haven't turned it /save-on, then probably autosave causes it
limber knotBOT
hmmm because when I ran that cmd all the lag spikes I was having every 5m went bye bye
heavy rapids
(it might be default /save-on since 1.13, I'm used to 1.12)
limber knotBOT
lol yeah. Not sure....
don't know if I dare reboot now. My players gonna shit eggrolls if I loose all their work!
fallen oracle
The server typically saves on reboot.
void void
It is save-off=> [21:56:51 INFO]: Automatic saving is now disabled
fallen oracle
Unless you force it.
limber knotBOT
ah good!
void void
But bukkit will still happen in the background right?
heavy rapids
If I had to take a guess I'd say /save-XXX and bukkit's autosave are the same
I can't imagine they would have implemented a second saving system
limber knotBOT
Funny thing is what I was having a fat lag spike every 5min. Then ran save-off and they stopped showing up in my timings reports
heavy rapids
probably just added a timer or sth
void void
No one is better than the other but I don't know it "override" vanilla's.
golden gust
Bukkit just makes vanillas world save configurable
limber knotBOT
gonna do a save-all before I test this out. Can see it now. 40 crying preteens threating to kick my ass.
golden gust
Yes
limber knotBOT
oh wait...run that by me again electroniccat
void void
So apparently it just make it more adjustable?
limber knotBOT
So save-off turns off the autosave in the bukkit.yml
golden gust
Yes
void void
Interesting I didn't know it the same thing. I thought bukkit did it entirely differnetly since the optimzation thread said to not to use save all.
limber knotBOT
electroniccat, anything I can do about this lag spike I am getting every 5min...or at least make it a bit better. Got a crazy fast ssd etc.
Wait, basically
so its a bug?
Yes, introduced by vanilla
void void
pretty much yea.
limber knotBOT
not a feature =)
limber knotBOT
yeah did htat LordKorea
void void
Does query-plugins: true does that I think it does though? So If I turn this off people cannot access plugins through the query port?
It's in the bukkit.yml just for the record. Just not sure if it does that or what's it for.
correct.
Ahh cool, well got a server to shut down to harden it a bit.
what's the point of hiding plugins tbh
sooner or later you're going to "leak" them here via timings link ;)))
:D
To delay the possibly of a break in. The longer it take to "crack" the plugins that is on the server to the average MC player that is.
fallen oracle
Do you have anything really that's not used on every other server? Lots of servers use a few common plugins, not sure what you're trying to hide.
heavy rapids
why care if people know what plugins you use? a server is more than the sum of its parts
void void
When you get tech support though your right all bets are off.
there's no point in hiding essentials, vault, placeholderapi etc.
void void
I do use a kinda usual stack so it is uncommon config.
fallen oracle
Let me guess, you're using a Minecraft server jar
fallen oracle
I do see his point tho, if people know his plugins, they could go and look if there's any known bugs if people are that dedicated
But it's really not a big deal.
void void
honestly yeah i had an incident with AuctionHouse recently
heavy rapids
if there's a bug in a plugin you use that's disclosed people will use it no matter if you use it
kinda like all those trying to book dupe on paper servers
void void
i wasn't aware of it's amazing and widely known dupe bug
fallen oracle
Yeah and there's many more plugins like that too @void void
In general you can just use one of the popular hide plug-in plugins
void void
Plus it's not really "stopping" them it's DELAYING them.
luckily most of the things we run are made by... me
fallen oracle
Just turn the query plugins off in the yml file and you're good.
heavy rapids
security by obscurity, here we go again
void void
Eg more time for the devs to patch before my server takes a dump.
so i don't care if people look at plugins or not
limber knotBOT
lol the Google outage is affecting android messages
void void
and snapchat
upper flicker
muh gmails arent syncing
acoustic pilot
and my plex streaming
upper flicker
search still works fine here
limber knotBOT
try explaining to a relative that texting wont work properly because Google's 'cloud platform' broke
acoustic pilot
Sweepyoface, you'll never get past "but google.com still works!"
fallen oracle
When you can't Google why Google is down because Google is down :(
limber knotBOT
yep lol
heavy rapids
@fallen oracle
void void
also wait until decentralization fanbois/grills hop out now 
heavy rapids
¯_(ツ)_/¯
void void
"tHAt Is whY IRunM y oWN xMPp sERveR"
fallen oracle
That's probably why no one has snap chatted me today :(
void void
i mean ya, but i mostly mean people who try to push it on everybody
fallen oracle
On the bright side, if Google is down, your players can't Google to figure out current bugs in your plugins.
void void
hehe
oh we have this one
fallen oracle
Si
I hate when my parents drag me shopping cause they go up and down every single aisle.
heavy rapids
drag them through every aisle of a store of your choice as your petty revenge
fallen oracle
I don't shop much
white tulip
void void
fallen oracle
Welcome back.
pale wing
fallen oracle
Welcome back.
limber knotBOT
Sometimes I hang out in best buy for a while as payback for that
fallen oracle
My dad took me through Best buy yesterday
limber knotBOT
That gets em complaining right after I was just forced to stand around at old navy for an hour
heavy rapids
*everybody else
void void
ok
limber knotBOT
Literally everyone
void void
like are you guys getting like a bunch of errors in the console too?
limber knotBOT
I worry how you got your hands on a 1
1.14 build without seeing all the warnings
errors are your problem
void void
ok i think maybe clearlag was causing issues??
limber knotBOT
Yeah it tends to do that
void void
i was getting tps drops but now my server is crashing
limber knotBOT
Remove it
void void
i just did
I was so mad I bought a 4gb host and it keeps dropping TPS like crazy
especially when people try to load chunks
And yes clearlagg is not compatible with current paperspigot build fyi
limber knotBOT
@void void [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
ancient bolt
the only things that are hosted on GCP are google and discord apparently
void void
I can't believe I found a plugin that is more ghtrow up than Enjin and EasyBackups. BlocksRegen. 🤢 Given the dev is forcing people to use Paypal to bypass having to mark it as Premium.
heavy rapids
wait until you hear of the premium plugin with an included backdoor
void void
You means Spartan the other day?
heavy rapids
yeah
golden gust
if they're sending you elsewhere to buy it, you can report them
void void
People had I think staffs are monitoring it or something.
golden gust
EWG """apparently""" contained a """feature""" that would encrypt your world if it thought it was pirated
heavy rapids
"EWannacryG HAS ENCRYTPED YOU WOLD! GIB BITCOIN"
void void
But I think these plugins will take awhile due to the violation levels. Sometimes months if it very illegal like the one possibly is.
molten shore
limber knotBOT
People cant control their air conditioning
upper flicker
well its like the pet feeders that stopped working when the service providers had an outage
heavy rapids
single point of failure ftw
upper flicker
why they needed an active connection to the server to do that instead of just storing that shit locally
there's some element of "wow thats stupid" in a lot of these product
fallen oracle
@void void did you report the resource?
limber knotBOT
not sure I'd say a cloud provider is a single point of failure because they have all their crazy redundancies
void void
No others said they did though.
fallen oracle
Ahh okay
limber knotBOT
something must have really gone wrong
fallen oracle
Wait Spartan had a backdoor in it?
upper flicker
my ISP sure as fuck doesnt
limber knotBOT
I'm talking about the big 3
fallen oracle
Didn't DiscordSRV have a backdoor in it at one point?
void void
If they did why are they still alive today?
fallen oracle
UP
pulsar wigeon
what's the deal with google?
limber knotBOT
but yes having things that need to be always online is dumb for reasons other than the provider possibility going down
fallen oracle
Google has been having outages all day.
Including the software they use in-house to talk to other teams about outages 😂
void void
Yea you would think they would have "hot spare" data centers LOL.
limber knotBOT
their network just broke
void void
Yea I would think they could have more than a single home and single connected network like a mesh.
So if one or even a few goes then it can still carries on.
fallen oracle
Why does Google breaking affect Discord? I thought they used CloudFlare for load balancing.
limber knotBOT
uhh yeah that's not really how it works
pulsar wigeon
discord has been shitty for a while
old badge
yesterday I was having issues sending messages in discord
limber knotBOT
there's more to running an application than load balancing, y'know
pulsar wigeon
dunno that it has anything to do with google
limber knotBOT
their origin servers are on gcp
fallen oracle
I'm aware, and that would make sense.
void void
Yea but you would expect the "main" servers would be well prepared for major failures though.
limber knotBOT
well I'm sure they have crazy levels of redundancy
some intern just pressed the wrong button and bypassed all that
usually what happens
fallen oracle
Kinda like the Hawaii thing.
void void
ahh gotcha, why do let interns or juniors access to such instrafacture though? Why not have a more non critical part for them so if it goes down then it easier to fix or at least doesn't costs them millions every minute they are offline for.
upper flicker
werent there routing issues up to L3 earlier today too though?
inb4 BGP shit again
limber knotBOT
well idk intern was just a joke
The point is its usually human error
unless you're netflix then the interns literally do have access to prod
upper flicker
netflix doesnt care
netflix has jobs that randomly knock out their prod servers out
void void
wow and I can see it going both ways.
upper flicker
they are constantly testing their phoenix architecture
fallen oracle
I guess if you have so many servers you can lose a few and not worry
limber knotBOT
yea Z750 i think L3 had a big outage today too
upper flicker
their entire architecture is built on the idea that any single node can go down (or come up to scale) at any time
limber knotBOT
which is interesting
fallen oracle
Yeah
void void
That's the good thing about doing a production environment "right". If you do then you don't need to stay up at 3AM to fix an issue straight away since you would have servers on "stand by" just for that.
upper flicker
I think its been done in the past but theyre notable because of the scale
fallen oracle
Ikr
void void
Exactly scale, profit ability. etc has to be juggled "just right" or you may miss out.
limber knotBOT
are people saying the l3 outage is connected to the gcp outage? because they seem fairly different in nature
fallen oracle
UP
upper flicker
afaik the only connection anyone is making is the timing
I havent seen any serious theories they're tied
limber knotBOT
huh
upper flicker
but it will be interesting to see the post-event reports
limber knotBOT
because it'd be a huge fucking coincidence if they were unrelated
void void
Maybe they are using same transit lines but they are still seperate entities?
or the spots are similar?
upper flicker
I havent seen the geographical distribution of what and where
my ISP was actually also down for most of the morning
limber knotBOT
I mean Google is reporting 'network congestion'
upper flicker
so its all a little odd
limber knotBOT
the gcp one seems hard to pin down as geographical
That could very well be the result of l3
static badge
was there some internet outage today
void void
Yea so it may be that the logic that both companies have to do with each other even if they are not suppliers, partners, etc.
rough crane
upper flicker
but who knows, local ISPs arent well known for their reliability
limber knotBOT
but its also not all their traffic that's out
i can't imagine gcp would have infra in a location where l3 is the only peer available
limber knotBOT
like a local isp outage makes sense as being caused by one of the two
upper flicker
but it isnt out everywhere
void void
So you don't think they intersect at an Internet Exchange or something?
upper flicker
they almost certainly do somewhere
limber knotBOT
They absolutely do
s/somewhere/everywhere
Correction, <DiscordBot> <07Z750> they almost certainly do everywhere
They just probably dont rely on it
upper flicker
the issue is that just one or two could be capable
which would be completely unnacceptable for someone like google
void void
That's probably what's up probably a few of those and that why two providers are dying at once.
upper flicker
let alone someone buying cloud services FROM google or AWS
void void
Because as being the Internet things can literally be anywhere and if A and B are in one spot A and B can be both out.
limber knotBOT
if it was purely a bgp issue with l3 then it would've been detected really quickly
void void
The different is how A reacts and how B reacts. A may be out in just that location where B may have more things to work on to get it going in the meantime, wait for recovery etc etc etc.
limber knotBOT
there's not much else besides bgp that could have such a huge propagating effect
so it's more reasonable to assume the connection is more complicated
They specifically said east coast in their status report
which doesnt sound quite right
there were reports in the UK and EU too
but like, an IX could be blown up and traffic should failover just fine for entities of this scale
re: Friendly
for everyone except cogent v6 but we don't talk about them
unless cogent got their shit together since last time i heard about them
doesnt look like it
https://regmedia.co.uk/2018/08/28/cogent-cake.jpg didn't help :(
radiant heron
Can someone help me test some stuff dm me
merry talon
.ask
limber knotBOT
If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.
peak dirge
cosmic raft
it was the thoughs that counts
austere ivy
Ah yes, the thoughs.
acoustic pilot
Google still having issues? My Plex streaming still buffering a lot 😦
unreal quarry
indeed, the thought https://giphy.com/gifs/steveharveytv-wink-steve-harvey-pWMIraZcSYi1W
ornate spindle
so what is the scale of how fucked 1.14.x paper is currently? performance wise that is
static badge
perf is pretty fucked
ornate spindle
more fucked than 1.13.2's lighting performance?
static badge
yeah it's pretty fucked