@cosmic raft He consumed a bee
#general
cosmic raft
ah
cosmic raft
lol
limber knotBOT
- have relative working at delivery service 2. oder food at unknown/invalid address 3. ??? 4. Profit!
*order
golden gust
apparently there are people who actually do that kinda thing over here
limber knotBOT
insert "delivery service that doesn't require paying up front"
merry talon
I suppose they might refund you
golden gust
Also there's been an issue with deliveroo drivers having "accidents" while delivering the meal
merry talon
yeah, bump in the road
pulsar wigeon
huh
marble summit
But before you do sub to pewdiepie
grim sleet
were subbed since the black ops commentary days m8 👍
cursive narwhal
Wish there was event to warn players 10 seconds before a world save
marble summit
@cursive narwhal With what, worldguard worldedit?
If so then just make a worldsave function
and put in a broadcast
cursive narwhal
10 seconds before the built in save
verbal garnet
adding a delayed save cmd should be ezpz (i say with literally zero minecraft programming experience)
cursive narwhal
Because the 1.14 lag on my server is great. Except for the world save, where it pauses 20 seconds
marble summit
Well then why not make a bukkitrunnable
cursive narwhal
So I was wondering about that
marble summit
Where on world save event it waits to do the thing
cursive narwhal
What the schedule was
pulsar wigeon
nice one buildtools. what is this shit https://i.imgur.com/zv6c06R.png
marble summit
Amazing™
@cursive narwhal There is a wiki on it
I'd show a sample but i recently got steam working
and its using all of my computers power lol
cursive narwhal
On world save event theres a what?
cursive narwhal
I know what a bukkit runnable is
tardy lynx
How are structures like trees and lakes generated over multiple chunks?
cursive narwhal
I guess I could look at ticks per auto save and after a world save event, schedule a warning for 10 seconds before the next
golden gust
block populators, they basically run at a phase when those chunks are loaded
tardy lynx
How does it do over multiple chunks if only one chunk is loaded?
golden gust
it doesnt
ancient bolt
So a thunderstorm with baseball sized hail and tornado warning headed toward me right now
golden gust
Sorry, this content is not available in your region. psh
elfin vault
Mr. Electroniccat, yes, since I don't see myself fit for answering the question
Do you think you could reply to the person in support in the ViaVersion Discord? 👀
I didn't want to ping you
sly mason
narrow crystal
void void
frigid salmon
hot gorge
So for a small server, 5-8 players, is 1.14.2 stable enough now or are we still waiting?
atomic marten
wasn't a joke
hot gorge
I'm sure it wasn't but that doesn't mean it isn't humorous
atomic marten
its sad
@golden gust why are you "electro"
is that the style of music you prefer?
marble summit
@golden gust Fun Fact, voice programs aren't in anime and don't have any canon info 
Most don't even have genders
Or are androgynous
golden gust
I was like 8, needed a username for the interwebs, grandfather was chief electrical tester, and I was kinda interested in electronics and stuff, so he recommended it and I went for it \o/
cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) MARINA AND THE DIAMONDS - PRIMADONNA [Official Music Video] | ♡ ELECTRA HEART PART 4/11 ♡ - length 3m 59s - 660,630 likes, 12,573 dislikes (98.1%) - 80,946,985 views - MARINA on 2012.03.12
cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) MARINA AND THE DIAMONDS - HOW TO BE A HEARTBREAKER [Official Music Video] | ♡ ELECTRA HEART PART 7 ♡ - length 3m 56s - 575,046 likes, 13,557 dislikes (97.7%) - 54,961,973 views - MARINA on 2012.09.28
marble summit
Like my 🅱oi flower
V4 Flower
Amazing
The True Question is
What is this voice synths gender
cosmic raft
that's rude
static badge
weeaboos 
golden gust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oD8tj3eBls That do it for ya?
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Nico-Nico-Nii! [BEATSTEP REMIX] - length 1m 46s - 438,119 likes, 16,751 dislikes (96.3%) - 20,835,642 views - Babymetal Live Kawaii on 2017.06.01
static badge
WEEBS 
cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Loituma - Ievan Polkka - length 2m 44s - 197,362 likes, 3,011 dislikes (98.5%) - 11,412,699 views - cosmicrat on 2008.04.19
marble summit
@golden gust 
static badge
alright that's some weeaboo trash right there
marble summit
Wow Spottedleaf you weeb
WAIT
Is that man asian
How can a asian be a weeb
Its mathmatically impossible
golden gust
Tryna remember what the baddass one was
marble summit
For a asian to be a weeb
lucid socket
cosmic raft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cv3phvP8Ro&t=23s dance with me, ec
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) BIGBANG - LIES(거짓말) M/V - length 4m 55s - 261,452 likes, 5,343 dislikes (98.0%) - 56,257,098 views - YG ENTERTAINMENT on 2008.10.03
atomic marten
hardy tiger
limber knotBOT
somehow paper 1.14.2 broke sending updates of the rotation of players and armorstands to the client - in spigot it works
when there are 2 players on the server and one rotates the other player only sees the head rotating, not the body - in spigot both rotate
and for placed armor stands the same (wheren there is a plugin that rotates them) - working in spigot, broken in paper
golden gust
Errrrmmmm, any sane text editors for 1.18GB log files?
cosmic raft
nano? :P
static badge
hex editor
cosmic raft
vscode
tardy lynx
cat
limber knotBOT
sed | vim
marble summit
send bee
old badge
notepad++
golden gust
Holy shit
marble summit
command block
golden gust
vscode actually handles it fine
marble summit
Y'all are a bunch of dumbasses
Command Block is the best IDE for minecraft programming
and for Programming in general
Since java is
THE
MINECRAFT
LANGUAGE™
old badge
I'm something of a Word 2017 guy
limber knotBOT
cosmic raft
rip
fresh ermine
what do you guys use for auto-saving on 1.13.2? bukkits default?
fresh ermine
the old admin of this server i got used a plugin and im thinking its redundant
Don't use multicraft, I have my own dedicated server and such
tame pendant
Yeah, bukkit's good enough, no need for an additional plugin
fresh ermine
i honestly think its causing a bit of lag
silent stag
pulsar swift
ancient bolt
god I love unif
lunar depot
Hello everyone
ancient bolt
I fucked up my network config https://i.imgur.com/Hr0oq2q.png
But internet and wifi are still working by falling back to default configs
so I can work out the issues and fix it without going through a huge hassle of plugging into the USG etc
next idol
robust quest
Yes! I was wondering what that creepy head rotation was about...
I saw someone do a full owl head spin!
verbal garnet
lol
real anchor
hushed flume
golden gust
5:22 up 1 day, 21:36, 7 users, load averages: 60.45 37.02 34.09 Sometimes, I feel really sorry for this machine
ancient bolt
whew
that was fun
I've now configured my USG to redirect all outgoing DNS requests that didn't come from the pihole back to the pihole
so programs with hardcoded DNS can't get around it
cosmic raft
@golden gust calculating 1b digits of pi?
golden gust
few IJ projects, vscode, discord, browser and youtube, two MC instances and maven building 😄
cosmic raft
the non-matching style of ethernet cables there bothers me
ancient bolt
Most of them match
cosmic raft
only one that I can see doesn't
ancient bolt
I didn't wanna run an HDD over PoE with a flat cable
But at that short distance tbh it probably doesn't matter
cosmic raft
any specific colour code for your cables? :P
ancient bolt
Yeah red is WAN
cosmic raft
where'd you get the cables from?
ancient bolt
Otherwise they are just different colors
Amazon
They're cat 7
Technically flat cables are against the spec so cat 7 flat cables are impossible
But w/e they work plenty fine and have cat 7 plugs
cosmic raft
yeah I've never used flat cables
I have some of these though: https://www.primecables.ca/p-360901-cab-cat6ut-allpr-cat6-utp-ultra-thin-patch-cable-purple
that style
ancient bolt
I really didn't want to be assed cutting my own cables
But I guess I could have gotten cleaner runs if I did
But still, not worth the effort
cosmic raft
golden gust
Yea, I'd need to be pretty dedicated to the job to wanna actually run cables properly, saying that, most of the time I just have cables dangling anywhere
cosmic raft
that's not that bad to be honest
cosmic raft
yeah I can see
its not like you're looking behind your tv all the time anyways, so its good enough
ancient bolt
yeah that's the idea at least
golden gust
OH GOD THE HORROR
ancient bolt
and if you look closely you can see I'm guarding the switch through the surge protector both with power and ethernet
which is kinda unnecessary but i felt it wouldn't hurt
don't really wanna take any risks
old badge
wait. Raspiberry Pi works with PoE? wtf
cosmic raft
you're the first person I've seen actually use the surge protector like that
golden gust
There is a hat for PoE
ancient bolt
yeah rasp pi 3 b with the PoE hat
@cosmic raft I am using it like that in 2 other places too lol
in front of my desktop and in front of the USG
cosmic raft
huh. yeah, first person I've seen actually use that functionality of the surge protector
old badge
I've been tinkering with the idea of turning my old PC into a home server but idk if it's worth the hassle and the money
cosmic raft
what would it cost?
ancient bolt
I want to set up a NAS but there's no good way to run cabling for where I want it to go
unless I put it in the closet, which I guess I could but then it wouldn't be where I want it
cosmic raft
where do you want it?
old badge
@cosmic raft I'd have to buy new ram (old ones are "broken"), hdd (or ssd) and a new psu. I basically only have the motherboard and the processor
ancient bolt
I want it behind my couch
having it in the closet probably wouldn't be good for air flow / heat management either
my networking gear in the closet already keeps it warm since there's no AC outlet in there
ancient bolt
I mean
it would technically work
could use lazers
and set up mirrors to bounce it across the ceiling
cosmic raft
The only thing of mine that uses wifi here is my phone, and sometimes my laptop
merry talon
that would be pretty sweet
cosmic raft
everything else is hardwired
ancient bolt
lazers are basically identical to hardwired
the hardware just costs a fuck ton more
and is really more for gaps of like 1km lol
merry talon
you just have to remember not to walk through it when you're transferring files
golden gust
renting a flat and the router is in the hallway, so rip, don't really wanna have to get into the hole "drilling a hole in the wall" so stuck with wires
ancient bolt
great for connecting buildings in a campus
merry talon
so buy a fog machine
acoustic pilot
wifi on a home network sounds terrible
ancient bolt
@merry talon that's why I'd have mirrors to bounce it up to the ceiling first
old badge
golden gust
That's basically just where the providers ethernet cable comes in
golden gust
lol
It's not too bad, tbh
Only real complaint would be the fact that the elevator sounds like somebody is using a cordless drill when it moves
(and moves at about the same rate too)
ancient bolt
god i hope y'all enjoy this trash video im about to post
cosmic raft
lift
golden gust
lift
limber knotBOT
Oh, lift is fine
golden gust
I'm just used to speaking to more americans that brits 😄
fallen oracle
Elevators are pretty cool, but they have their ups and downs.
cosmic raft
wait until theresa may hears about this
limber knotBOT
We call them Fahrstuhl, move chair or smth 😂
fallen oracle
Thank you I'll be here all night 👋
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cosmic raft
you make me want to hurt you, glare
cosmic raft
well
i found an enterprise-y name
import org.gradle.api.ExtensiblePolymorphicDomainObjectContainer;
fallen oracle
Oh my
That's a mouth full
And I'm not referring to the tacos.
Yo what's some Netflix / Hulu suggestions?
old badge
tv shows or movies?
fallen oracle
I think I just broke my fucking toe. I opened the freezer and a cup of beans fell on it
Either works
golden gust
.rekt
limber knotBOT
☑ School Of Rekt
cosmic raft
that's what you get for that elevator thing about
fallen oracle
I've been watching LetterKenny
cosmic raft
above*
fallen oracle
Ouch
golden gust
1 more Chernobyl ep to go :(
golden gust
Monday shall be a beautiful sadness :(
fallen oracle
But yeah I just finished a TV show so I'm looking for new ones
cosmic raft
I love Jared Harris, he's a good actor
old badge
Sillicon Valley is pretty good if you haven't watched it already
it's actually pretty fucking cool to be honest
golden gust
Not too sure how far i got into that, does it perk up as it goes or?
fallen oracle
I'd that Hulu?
old badge
HBO. I have no idea what Hulu is
cosmic raft
hulu is some US-only streaming service
ancient bolt
y'all
fallen oracle
TIL
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Thing - length 20s - 3 views - DemonWav on 2019.05.29
ancient bolt
That's how I connect my desktop to my network without wifi
acoustic pilot
@fallen oracle I could probably suggest a lot of TV, but really depends on what you're into
old badge
@golden gust give it a shot
fallen oracle
@acoustic pilot throw stuff out
acoustic pilot
Brooklyn Nine-Nine is an ongoing sitcom available on Hulu, it's really good.
fallen oracle
I've tried it, was okay
@old badge giving Silicone valley a shot. Just grabbed the first episode.
ancient bolt
silicon valley is pretty good
merry talon
@fallen oracle watch what kash is watching, Life
old badge
the technobabble in the show at least makes sense
fallen oracle
I guess my parents watched it or at least my dad did cause we already have so,5,6
S4
fresh ermine
Letterkenny is p funny
its a basic suggestion but Stranger Things S1 is really good IMO
fallen oracle
Seen it too many times
I'm watching LetterKenny with my dad this month and we're like 3 seasons in so far
merry talon
one of their interns must've touched prod again
runic night
merry talon
i watched a talk recently and learned they just let anyone access it
finite wave
Hmm
placid thicket
you ever so bored that you watch thomas the tankengine for a few hours as a grown man?
vestal jasper
oh
gloomy sphinx
do you think we will ever find the creator(s) of bitcoin?
or at least be released to the public
void void
Satoshi Nakamoto?
void void
¯_(ツ)_/¯
gloomy sphinx
maybe he is z750
wispy burrow
limber knotBOT
look at the commits...
minor coral
make me!
limber knotBOT
https://papermc.io/downloads shows changes too
limber knotBOT
wowoowo, I have access to gist.github.com at work now 😂
gloomy sphinx
my epeen is about to be massive
waxen gorge
azure solar
Just want to say I appreciate your active support on Discord regards to questions etc usually no matter how stupid they are. @golden gust and everyone else who contributes!
It's unusual in other communities. Bravo!
normal echo
There's no such thing as a stupid question (excluding can I ask a question) 😎
heady spear
I just had to translate shrub into Swedish because the Swedish word for shrub sounded too dumb to be true
I've only spoken Swedish for like 18 years, so it makes sense that I wouldn't know what the fuck a shrub is
limber knotBOT
But what is "shrub" in Swedish?
void void
dapper root
Hi, is it possible to limit the cap on one particular mob? I have a huge Guardian farm that a player made at it eats up the mob cap.. if I can limit just the guardians that would be nice. Ideas? Thanks you.
void void
make a feature request on the paper repo if there isn't already a setting for it
dapper root
I looked and didn't see anything about that in th config files.. where would I find it if it's a thing?
I don't mind looking.. just a general direction would help.
unreal quarry
There was talk about extending the mob cap to be able to specify cap-per-mob, but I believe it was decided that such a thing is best left to plugin space
void void
paper.yml but im pretty sure it's not, so basically I was saying make a feature request and someone can look into it at some point
mm fair
dapper root
Ok. Thanks you for you time.. one last fast query.. @unreal quarry any plugin that you can recommrnd that would accomplish this?
unreal quarry
There should be a few mob-per-chunk limiting plugins out there. I'm not too sure on specifics, never used anything like that before myself
I do recall someone talking about a mob-per-player limiter recently, but I don't remember if it was a request or what
void void
How would per-player be tracked
unreal quarry
Radius around player, iirc
unreal quarry
Not sure on specifics ^_^
void void
unreal quarry
I'm sure there's a number creative ways to limit mobs, I just can't think of any right now ^_^
hidden harness
I get this when trying to move from a server with viabackwards to a server with forge (waterfall)
[ViaBackwards] Could not find new channel for XaeroMinimap
unreal quarry
My own personal solution was to give each mob a lifespan of 10 minutes. If no player has interacted with it within 10 minutes it would die, freeing up the mob cap so no single player hoards them all
void void
@void void i have limited info about velocity but na looks okay
works perfectly as well
nice
hidden harness
Did anyone see my question?
dapper root
While I'm at it and with my mob issue.. I haven't had much luck with world editors that use a map.. I'm trying to find people who have too many animals and eating up the cap.. any suggestions for this? Windows. Thank you again.
unreal quarry
@hidden harness I did, but I ignored it because it's bungee related. I'm not versed with bungee. Might recieve better support in #waterfall-help
hidden harness
Okay, but i cannot join my server
unreal quarry
Idk how to help
hidden harness
ok
inner ginkgo
heavy rapids
👌
austere ivy
One thing I don’t like about IRC is that you can’t get mentions if you’re not online
limber knotBOT
use a bouncer or IRC client on a server
like https://thelounge.chat ;)
it supports native push notifications on desktop and android
not on apple because apple is stupid and doesn't follow standards
s/apple/Ios
Correction, <MiniDigger> not on Ios because Ios is stupid and doesn't follow standards
or just use irssi with a telegram notification plugin
runs
void void
matrix bridge when
tardy lynx
How's performance on 1.14.2?
heavy rapids
I'd love matrix to be more widespread
oh that, and good group calls (like discord) and TOR support
limber knotBOT
I would switch to matrix in an instant if it just had all features of telegram ;_;
but you can't really convince people to switch if the stuff that you used to get them on telegram in the first place isn't on the new platform xD
stickers for matrix when
^
also inline bots
and games
well theoretically matrix already kinda supports stickers (because telegram stickers are just pictures anyways) but it doesn't have a nice "picture pack container" setup
also their discord-like community setup still kinda sucks (at least the last time I tried it)
heavy rapids
wdym, the homeserver concept?
limber knotBOT
no, you can group multiple channels into a community
independent from the server they are on
heavy rapids
ah, nice. why does it suck?
limber knotBOT
no way to get from a channel to the community, no way to manage permissions for the whole community like access to specific channels
heavy rapids
ah, yes that sounds like the concept is still immature
limber knotBOT
I mean it's open source so I guess nobody actually needs it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
heavy rapids
I'd love to switch to matrix-based messengers, but I know nobody else who uses them 😢
limber knotBOT
or well, the servers might support it already but the best client doesn't ¯_(ツ)_/¯
heavy rapids
what client do you use?
limber knotBOT
you could theoretically setup your own server and bridge everything that you have, that's kinda the goal of matrix anyways
basically the only client that supports all the features
wait, matrix has stickers now... just no good way of adding new ones
heavy rapids
does matrix have a discord bridge? 🤔
heavy rapids
isn't minecon just a livestream this year?
limber knotBOT
only thing riot is missing is merging multiple accounts into one. here is a client overview btw: https://matrix.org/docs/projects/clients-matrix
tf is SciCraft?
heavy rapids
thanks!
limber knotBOT
also yes, there are bridges for almost anything
limber knotBOT
there's a difference between simple bot bridges (like this one to IRC) and proper homeserver-service-bridges where you can login with your actual account (also possible with IRC)
heavy rapids
mh. I really should start using matrix.
limber knotBOT
ideally you would use a homeserver that supports all your different services (like irc, discord, whatsapp, telegram) and just store your account data on their (if you trust them obviously or host it yourself) so you can use matrix for everything
*on there
heavy rapids
be the change you want to see, or what did the saying go like.
limber knotBOT
my current problem is that matrix would just be another messaging client I have running due to no proper integrations existing for all the services I already use :S
(namely telegram and discord)
heavy rapids
so no proper discord bridge? hm
limber knotBOT
bot bridges exist
proper service bridges to properly sync all different guilds and allow voice chat do not
(especially as they would violate discord TOS ¯_(ツ)_/¯)
heavy rapids
discord's TOS are the reason I'm looking for alternatives lmao
limber knotBOT
well matrix works for what it wants to do, but it's not really made for larger communities right now
like discord is
eternal steeple
does anyone know if there is a plugin that would allow you to add / modify the available trades that a wandering villager has? Basically I'd like to add a few things to the list of items a wandering villager may be willing to sell players. The sci-craft guys did this with their 1.14 skyblock using carpet mod I believe ... was wondering if it's been done in spigot/paper.
finite wave
You can mane one yourself
eternal steeple
?
limber knotBOT
that can probably be edited by a datapack
eternal steeple
@wheat quarry I don't believe villager trades can be modified via loot tables / datapacks - if you know of any such datapack i'd be happy to look into it.
@finite wave I can make one myself how? please provide more information.
finite wave
You know, code it with, maybe java or any other jvm lang
eternal steeple
@finite wave ... super useful reply ...
limber knotBOT
knocks two of phoenix616's teeth out with a 2x4.
finite wave
What did you want me to say?
heavy rapids
poison ivy joint 🤔
That a schedule 1 drug?
eternal steeple
if you don't know - then nothing ... if you did know of a plugin share it like i asked ...
limber knotBOT
@eternal steeple I would assume that it just uses the available recipes which can be edited in a datapack
limber knotBOT
wait, villager trades aren't a recipe type? ;_;
finite wave
Idek
finite wave
Vanilla seems to support
eternal steeple
@finite wave totally not helpful ... i dono't want to spawn in custom villagers i want to change the recipies on naturally spawning ones
pulsar wigeon
you can tho
heavy rapids
@eternal steeple you could use the data tag with /entitydata tho.
finite wave
@meager perch 1.14 is broken
limber knotBOT
that's not what he wants though
pulsar wigeon
that's not how GC works
finite wave
And yes
pulsar wigeon
that absolutely doesn't mean that there's a ram leak
pulsar wigeon
i wouldn't either, but i'm not jumping to conclusions
free memory going down doesn't signify anything except that memory is being used
eternal steeple
@wheat quarry you understanding better what i'm asking for? if this was something like a loot table i'd be happy and never ask but there doesn't seem to be a "recipie table" that i can edit and modifying NZB tags on spawned traders isn't going to work in terms of keeping it random and simply just adding to what they have.
finite wave
True, but if it’s idle and still going down
finite wave
If it’s completely idle and you assume nothing is supposed to happen and free ram is still going down how does that not indicate a fault?
pulsar wigeon
the only time a server is completely idle is when you suspend the process on the OS level
limber knotBOT
@eternal steeple would be strange if there was no way to change it (but I guess it's mojang we are talking about...) could also be that 1.14 is just too new and people haven't figured it out yet. in that case a "simple" look through the server code might help figure it out
finite wave
@pulsar wigeon I guess you can’t really use this assumption for servers
pulsar wigeon
even with no players online, the server is still ticking spawn chunks, checking for entities to spawn, etc etc
eternal steeple
your idea of idle ... and reality of idle is likely very very different @finite wave also the fact that you used the word "assumed"...
pulsar wigeon
all of that will take some memory
eternal steeple
@wheat quarry ya java isn't my strong suit which is why i was asking here ... but thank you for at least understanding where i'm coming from, I'll continue to look.
finite wave
Just like my anticheat has 100% cheat detection
But yeah you are correct Wiz my statement was incorrect
unreal quarry
@eternal steeple if you have something that works for regular villagers it will work for the wandering villager, too. Both villagers inherit the same merchant class that handles their trades
limber knotBOT
traders have a different tradepool though
eternal steeple
@unreal quarry I don't have anything for normal villagers either - my reason for focusing on the wandering villager is my idea would be to put some rare blocks (say sponge or something) in the wandering villagers trading slot and since the mechanics of the wandering villager means they despawn automatically and show up randomly it would give the options i'm looking for.
The problem is essentially there is no good interface to MerchantRecipe without a plugin ... which is why I was looking to see if anyone has heard of a plugin that modifies those.
unreal quarry
I'm not looking at the code right this second, but last I remember all possible trades were preset in a mess of a static field. The only way to change them is to override them in the event system, or spawn your own custom villager. Not sure if that's changed with the new 1.14 system, but I doubt it has
limber knotBOT
gg mojang
eternal steeple
ya what would be ideal is to likely over ride on spawn - having them reference the equiv of a loot table and if no loot table exists for that villager type then defaulting back to the defeault static array in the code.
unreal quarry
That sounds like a fun project, and if I wasn't already swamped I'd make it for you. Your best bet (if you don't want to code it yourself) would be to present this idea to an existing villager trade plugin
eternal steeple
i have no idea why mojang would design the merchant tables like that ... seems silly given how much power they were trying to give to datapacks.
thanks ... i'll try and actually write up what i'm looking for a bit more so there isn't the cluster of confusion this thread started with and see. my java skills are pretty weak but maybe its something to hack at and see if i can make something work... alternatively like you said hit up a different plugin creator.
unreal quarry
Yeah, it's a rather odd idea in the bukkit community. We don't really use loottables/datapacks that often. They are indeed powerful, though, and I wish more plugins supported them
I, myself, recently had my first experience with them by making the mcmmo kraken support custom loottables ^_^
eternal steeple
i only recently switched over to spigot/paper as a server -- was running vanilla (with datapacks / loot tables) jar for years just 1.13 started to have to many tick issues (instantly solved with paper drop in). We still basically run it as vanilla but for something like this i'd gladly put in a plugin.
cerulean prairie
pulsar wigeon
they are essentially plugins that run on MC commands instead of java code
limber knotBOT
they can also change stuff like recipes and loottables directly
pulsar wigeon
imagine writing a plugin that runs on /execute, invisible armor stands, and scoreboard objectives
and yea, they also include resource packs, which can add to and modify MC resources
tardy lynx
Java bytecode running vs Java bytecode running and interpreting strings which runs commands
limber knotBOT
data packs and resource packs are two different things though ;)
heavy rapids
I prefer plugins every day of the week
pulsar wigeon
partially yea
unreal quarry
Datapacks aren't just commands.. I like them for the loottables
limber knotBOT
(also Minecraft has a mod api (javascript support), just Java Edition doesn't have that)
runs
eternal steeple
datapacks were supposed to allow the game to be kind of like minetest ... essentially allowing you to rewrite all the rules etc of the game ... not everything is in there though.
limber knotBOT
well they are in the process though. the base for adding new blocks/items is in the game now, only thing missing is new entities ¯_(ツ)_/¯
will probably be apparent that they are working on that when the rendering engine rewrite is complete
well plugins do a lot more xD
not yet
no, datapacks are server side
resource packs would be required for the textures/models to show properly (same as it currently is for custom items with the custom model tag)
eternal steeple
i'd suspect that the average vanilla user is using bukkit/spigot/paper because anytime they ask about performance that's the default answer... and then once you are using bukkit/spigot/paper and have access to mods that are pretty easy to isntall etc ppl don't bother looking at datapackas.
limber knotBOT
bukkit isn't a server btw, craftbukkit was (and that doesn't really change performance compared to vanilla)
eternal steeple
true - but you get my point.
there was a project back when datapacks first came out called gamemode 4 (https://gm4.co/modules/ ) which showed some of the cool stuff you could do with datapacks.
limber knotBOT
uh, that's a nice site to steal err learn stuff from
verbal garnet
*inspiration
void void
Can anyone vouch for any good anti-cheats? Spigot seems to have been swarmed with new ones and I don't know which are any good. Long live NCP ;(
limber knotBOT
really depends on what you want, if you don't want 100% competitive PVP just use NCP and configure it properly
ancient bolt
intellij 2019.2 finally has built in support for .gitignore files
I wonder what that will mean for the .ignore plugin
on of the most popular plugins on the platform
limber knotBOT
just use NCP for PvE ¯_(ツ)_/¯
void void
@spare venture What's SAC? What does the S mean?
But.. @wheat quarry it has errors on 1.14.2
void void
Very true
limber knotBOT
also NCP is open source, update it (or get someone to update it) and it works without issues again ;)
void void
Okay thanks Phoenix. But that's just not doable for me
I'll live without anti cheat for now
The price I pay to capture a niche 1.14 market ;(
grand coyote
limber knotBOT
IntelliJ 2019.2 EAP doesn't have a JBR11 version yet :(
verbal garnet
not really a paper question specifically but is there an easy way to tell what render distance a server is set to?
heavy rapids
easy way as in "unmodded client can tell"?
verbal garnet
I need a numerical value varty
barty*
sexxxxy thanks thatll work
im from the days of minecraft gone past
i havent played in ~10 years lmao
barren moat
verbal garnet
"MultiplayerChunkCache" where do i go about finding this?
tardy lynx
F3 debug menu
verbal garnet
hmm neat
i found it a wee bit easier to just f3+f and f3+shift+f . that debug menu is really unpleasant to look at so i havent spent the time to learn everything in there yet. anyway thanks for the help :3
proper cedar
marble summit
verbal garnet
lol
upper flicker
Because we aren’t filthy heathens like you
upper flicker
have to try it elsewhere I guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯
upper flicker
graceful flame
proud mountain
hey hey! hey!!!
cedar spade
You missed a hey!!
proud mountain
one of us
marble summit
Yes now I must leave this place
proud mountain
too late
proud mountain
you will just spread the loseritis
marble summit
I’m just a chad
Who thought there would be some puss to smash in this discord
And there are just virgins
proud mountain
marble summit
proud mountain
amazing!
marble summit
A puffer from Australia has come to kill you
fallow cosmos
We have descended into the 9th circle of hell...
tropic flame
hold on is it just me or my message was deleted
fallow cosmos
Thankfully it appears to have been deleted
grave apex
gleaming condor
crystal chasm
tropic flame
👀
limber knotBOT
Reminder for DiscordBot: @cosmic raft is the best <3
worn ember
@tropic flame Wtf haha
ionic gale
still igloo
limber knotBOT
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worn ember
No u
cedar spade
limber knotBOT
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limber knotBOT
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midnight terrace
wooden ferry
gentle tundra
tropic flame
MCEdit existed, but I think it's abandoned? idk
limber knotBOT
Reminder for DiscordBot: It's thursday.
fallen oracle
You could use the good old MC paint
That would generate a 10k x 10k in like 10 minutes.
pulsar wigeon
i think he's talking about using mojang's world gen just sayin
marble summit
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void void
adtentus <These guys are the weirdest "Minecraft" hoster ever. They are selling Minecraft servers like they were to be web VPSes.
marble summit
limber knotBOT
the autosave (config option ticks-per.autosave) currently creates huge lags in 1.13.2 - is it possible to disable the autosave of all chunks at the same time (like having some incremental save?)
oh - 1.14.2
marble summit
We can all agree 1.13.2 is the ultimate version of minecraft
Nah jk the ultimate version of minecraft is the end city elytra update
limber knotBOT
ok i will try to increase the value
marble summit
But all of the versions still suck though
Cause they never removed the herobrine bug
limber knotBOT
currently every 5 minutes there is about 40 seconds wihtout ticks when its autosaving
limber knotBOT
yes, 40.. the timings just have a huge lag spike and i get some messages of "the server stopped responding"
with about 30 players on the server
stiff yarrow
maybe check it out in yourkit and see whats up
sacred rover
Hi. How is it done that when players enter a nether portal, instead of loading an other world on client side, it just kind of swaps the chunks, eliminating both client side and server side lag? I cannot find anything related to this.
cosmic raft
that new Used by on github is cool
see https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community at the top for example
limber knotBOT
and somehow villagers are completely broken in paper 1.14.2 (did not test spigot yet)
but in paper they are just somewhat frozen most of the time
cosmic raft
running latest?
static badge
version?
cosmic raft
if not latest, update
limber knotBOT
yes, latest
static badge
build number?
limber knotBOT
55
cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
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civic jewel
merry talon
github sucks so bad on mobile
brazen adder
"1.14.2 builds can now be downloaded from the site at https://papermc.io/downloads" Does this mean it should be stable enough now?
alpine basalt
Highly doubt they're stable yet. I'd wait a little longer @brazen adder
upper flicker
It’s not recommended to upgrade from 1.13.2 or 1.12.2
If you’re already on 1.14, it’s fine
brazen adder
alright, im on 1.13.2
upper flicker
Right now it just mostly doesn’t perform very well
Chunk loading and saves are brutal
brazen adder
i just thought they didnt want to put up an unstable version on the download page
alpine basalt
I'm at a safe spot with 1.14.1 and I think I'll just wait a little lol its not worth the hassle and having to wait fo rplugins to update
brazen adder
but Z750 if i do not enable autosave is it better? or is that not what you ment lol
upper flicker
It’s going to suck no matter what
brazen adder
lol
upper flicker
Not saving your world just means it’s going to be more prone to lose the data
alpine basalt
I know some broke from 1.14 to 1.14.1
upper flicker
save-all hurts more than autosave
robust quest
Somebody messed up. Apparently Turtles can be bred indefinitely without a breeding cooldown. 😐
alpine basalt
Sounds like a feature to me, not a bug 😛
tropic flame
is that PEGI 3 talk for "turtles have a high sex drive"? @robust quest
robust quest
They having all sorts of orgies.
merry talon
chrome apt repo broke -_-
void void
nice
verbal garnet
Anyone have some DynMap rendering i can compare this speed with? [17:41:12 INFO]: Full render of map 'flat' of 'Alpha' in progress - 2100 tiles rendered (93.81 msec/tile, 66.53 msec per render)
past sphinx
clear portal
Is GriefPrevention the go-to for survival servers? Is there a better alternative?
alpine basalt
Are you looking for antigrief or what?
clear portal
Yeah just making sure players can't grief each-other.
alpine basalt
Yeah, it works on 1.14 too. Itll also disable PvP in claims if you have pvp enabled in tht world
Definitely would look at the config if I were you when you download it
Factions works well too
Unsure if thats updated or not though
cerulean prairie
guys how do i use this cmd?
i'm doing /gamemode Daethic creative, 0, 1, 2 ,3
nothing works
clear portal
Aight, not using factions. Running a UHC survival server for my group of friends and just wanna make sure some random can't come on in and screw everyone over.
heavy rapids
try /gamemode Daethic 1 @cerulean prairie
alpine basalt
You could always whitelist lol
alpine basalt
Lmfao
cerulean prairie
@heavy rapids that's what I did lol
heavy rapids
ah, I thought you included the commas, my bad.
it might be a wrong usage, try /gamemode 1 Daethic
by that I mean the plugin author might have messed up the usage message
alpine basalt
What plugins d oyou have?
cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
Hey so I am running a simple little smp server with almost no plugins and for some reason the other day swords just started to do way less damage then they should
I haven't made any changes to config or anything
It's taking players on my server 10 hits with a sharpness v diamond sword to kill a skeletion with delayed hits
Any ideas on why this might be happening?
fringe flicker
limber knotBOT
Oh sorry I'll move to the right channel. Realised there is a help channel
acoustic pilot
looks like WoW Classic releases in August, rip my life lol
void void
jesus
my fiance calls me, wakes me up
she's like "i have something to tell you..."
She frames it up like I'm about to be a dad
then she's like "not this time though"
-.-
old badge
lol
austere violet
lmao
crystal compass
vestal jasper
mfw
the word skyblock isn't mentioned anywhere in any of the server listings
people come on asking if it's skyblock focused
who let @static badge procreate
shy nova
@crystal compass yes and fine but use the right chat #paper-help
void void
if i change my view distance in server properties it doesnt seem to change, im trying to set it to 10 from 7 but it stays the same in game for some reason
tacit spruce
merry talon
well if it's lower on your client it will be lower
vestal jasper
There's 3 channels dedicated to it so I'd say yes
verbal garnet
ive seen people here mention PebbleHost but i cant endorse any myself
golden gust
never used either, but I hear good mentions to them, also talked to pebble about some issues in their setup that was impacting a user and they made some changes to address it
void void
lmao my computer is having a stroke im genning chunks rn
but i prefferably want a vps or non-shared
golden gust
good options for MC are generally limited due to the odd CPU load requirements, there are the common vps providers like OVH, vultr and digitialocean which people often use
void void
alright thank you
worn ember
yooted
worn ember
lul
pulsar wigeon
is that the onion
void void
whats the best operating system for mc hosting
visual sluice
^
preferably no gui
void void
how much does 1 vs 2 cores make a difference for minecraft 1.14
worn ember
a lot, most of mc is multithreaded now
void void
Lagmonitor is garbage at least in Docker Containers as I moved a newer provider who have public stats from HexriTools or whatever and their RAM never gotten as "low" as LagMonitor said it gotten at all.
golden gust
probably looking at two completely different things
atomic marten
ew containers
old badge
4 //4102*-96+3
void void
How though? RAM is measured from the tool directly in the OS as I used it before (it's an agent that sends back Linux's data back for graphing and etc)
golden gust
Exactly
The tool is looking at the real processes memory usage, lagmonitor will be looking at the heap
void void
.g lagmonitor
golden gust
What you saw in hetri was probably whatever lag monitor was saying the max memory was + a few hundred MBs for java itself
limber knotBOT
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void void
lmao
worn ember
oh boi, RAM monitoring is a fun one 🤔
worn ember
rip i dont have hyperthink here xD
atomic marten
void void
But until you got a public facing stats page how are you supposed to ensure that your provider isn't trash right? That why I used it, not because I just wanted numbers or something. Just to make sure I wasn't lied to (which ironically I was since the I7 7700K was NOT overclocked)
atomic marten
or just not use the JVM
void void
So basically monitoring from the JVM itself is garbage just because your doing it from within your service vs. from the outside eg with like hextr correct?
golden gust
monitoring both is important, basically
void void
Monitoring within the JVM can be done but you have to interpret results differently as you aren't reading the usage counts from the OS but from the internal JVM environment...
golden gust
But, memory inside java itself is a fun topic
acoustic pilot
more like, there are two different memory usages to be aware when using java, the heap vs the process.
void void
You have to do both to get a bigger picture.
acoustic pilot
and it's important to know which one you're monitoring
worn ember
pretty sure i ran into the same issue when making my server launcher in C# lol. Took me a while to figure that out
atomic marten
but why
worn ember
wouldnt know either lol
grave rivet
visual sluice
sometimes servers seem to climb to the top
or it's just me having memory lapses
worn ember
mine havent changed at all lol
golden gust
It shoves the new ones at the top for me, usssed to be bottom iirc
ancient bolt
explains why i tend to loose servers up top then i guess
since paper is basically on the bottom
atomic marten
just realized im in 58 guilds now
ancient bolt
I don't even know why I'm in most of my channels at this point
acoustic pilot
all ur tacos r belong to meh
ancient bolt
@cosmic raft NamedDomainObjectContainerCreatingDelegateProvider
void void
@ancient bolt--
ancient bolt
Gradle has gone full enterprise
void void
@ancient bolt++
Gradle--
Context saved you
proper quarry
limber knotBOT
anyone on
unreal quarry
no
worn ember
u
old badge
Is there any noticeable benefit of going DDR4 over DDR3 and higher Mhz over lower Mhz for hosting servers? I know Ryzen CPUs perform better with higher Mhz rams but 90% of the hosting providers use Intel anyways and hosts almost never list their RAM clock
worn ember
Ddr4 is faster. But if it's really that noticable is a different story. The speed of the ram usually isn't the issue. But the amount you have.
merry talon
Shouldn't matter much unless like you said you have a first gen ryzen chip
placid thicket
when your SSDs are running at 50c because your house is 30c...
merry talon
it makes them faster
static badge
brb going to buy amd to make my ssds go faster
merry talon
amd makes memory too
marble summit
Anyone got suggestions for a Dedicated Server Host for a Minecraft Server Network? Aside from OVH and SoYouStart (Im looking at all of the options atm since im gonna choose on friday)
merry talon
you don't really need to consider other options
marble summit
Ok just makin sure
merry talon
unless you got a $500 budget
merry talon
probably one of the game servers
marble summit
Theres currently available Game-1 and Game-2
For Canada
Actually Game-2 is the highest one can get lol
Cause the other servers are all bought
merry talon
At the current rate you'll need more CPU before 16 isn't enough
marble summit
So Game-2?
marble summit
Oh
merry talon
so grab the cheaper one
marble summit
1.13.2 is the version i'll be running on
Most likely
Cause thats what i've programmed the plugins for
merry talon
should be ok then, only thing you can really do is test it
marble summit
Do you guys know a good place to get a domain
merry talon
Namecheap
limber knotBOT
whatever you want lol
marble summit
So it doesn't matter what suffix i choose
limber knotBOT
nope
wide hazel
mbax recommended Porkbun to me
limber knotBOT
the owner just sets the price at whatever they think people will pay
marble summit
Cause like i saw .com domains that were like 4k lol
limber knotBOT
they'll all do the same thing
wide hazel
those domains are sold by other companies through Namecheap
limber knotBOT
I just trust that namecheap won't squat on my domains
marble summit
Welp
limber knotBOT
like godaddy