Which is my custom skyblock gamemode
#general
marble summit
old badge
good luck
lone notch
placid thicket
so having a hard time finding what i need, i need an automatic minecart station that sends chest minecarts one way and players/empties the other, any ideas or reccomendations?
placid thicket
just redstone preferably
marble summit
Why not use a comparator or something and powered rails
Cause don't those do stuff depending on how many items are in a chest
The redstones gonna look ugly tho if u do
Why not just put a on inventory close event and check if its a chestcart
placid thicket
i just don't know how to make them distinguish between a player and a minecart
marble summit
Since you can put it into basically any plugin tbh
placid thicket
sounds like overkill for a switchpoint TBH
marble summit
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
It may be overkill
But it ain't fuckin ugly
Anyways
Just spam a crap ton of comparators
They will have to be next to the minecraft
minecart*
then a repeater facing the minecart in a direction comparators are not
void void
does anyone know if meloncube is any good
old badge
did a small research on spigot forums and Meloncube is not very recommended there
void void
ah alright thanks, did they reccomend anything instead
static badge
hey z can I get my perms back for emojis on the forum so I can rate that post thx
old badge
damn can you actually imagine the shitstorm that something like that would happen?
tepid loom
placid thicket
yeah that would be just retarted
vestal jasper
They aren't bots it's an IRC chat bridge
woven otter
OMG someone stole my plugins
placid thicket
yea, download my client and it will hax your accounts!
void void
someone really stole my optifine cape lol
not even sure how
my cape was missing for a couple days and i figured it was bugged, finally decided to login to the site and it was under some random ass username
placid thicket
didn't optifine have some sort of database breach a while ago? i thought they did... i might be on crack tho
gloomy sphinx
your account is probably in a alts list lol
placid thicket
sooooo anyone here going to move to Sweeden to join the Mojang team? their hiring! you could be the one to prevent this mess from happening again
verbal garnet
there was this swedish guy that made a cool little game about 10 years ago. i think they should hire him.
but there might be 2.5 billion reasons why thatll never happen
placid thicket
they really shouldn't... they REALLY shouldn't hire him back...
verbal garnet
as a programmer no
placid thicket
as an anything, no
verbal garnet
as a designer/overseer of sorts why not?
placid thicket
because he's gone insane... like literally. you been living under a rock?
void void
yeah he has kinda blown a gasket lmao
verbal garnet
whats that got to do with his professional career tho?
placid thicket
well, its enough that microsoft and mojang have removed all reference from the game of him, that and it would be PR suicide
old badge
notch wouldn't bring anything valuable back to the minecraft team tbh
he's not even a good programmer
verbal garnet
id argue the first 4 years of mc were pretty good all things considered. i dont think he'd let crap like 1.13 and 14 happen again
placid thicket
he's publicly talked about killing off people based on race and religion among other things
there wasn't anything expressly wrong with 1.13, and he DID let broken messes like that release. see 1.7
almost all the technical debt has been caused by shortcuts he took early in dev. honestly Mojang may be better off going the Forge route and doing a ground up rewrite. (except the redstone community would bitch it broke stuff)
verbal garnet
think i quit long before 1.7 was out what happened there?
placid thicket
well we got to a .10 among other things due to gamebreaking bugs
old badge
https://mojang.workable.com/j/507415F0B5?viewed=true
In the job description one of the requirements is literally "You have the ability to understand and improve a 10-year-old codebase"
verbal garnet
over what kind of time period?
cosmic raft
they're hiring, but you need to move to Stockholm :P
void void
Are they paying for relo?
old badge
I'd move to Stockholm in a heartbeat
crystal compass
ayo
cosmic raft
We provide full relocation assistance for all applicants from outside of Sweden from one of the other job listings
crystal compass
to rename a world, is it only the folder name I have to change?
static badge
u should apply kasjh
cosmic raft
i don't have a resume
static badge
make one 
cosmic raft
make a blank page?
void void
show them your fucking github lmao
placid thicket
i would say working on paper is a pretty good resume for working on minecraft
old badge
just show your github "Here, I make your multiplayer actually playable"
acoustic pilot
Anything that's professionally relevant can go on your resume, and absolutely should go on your resume.
That includes GitHub works
placid thicket
that and you do it with code with zero comments decompiled and mapped by someone else
verbal garnet
honestly surprised you devs dont get contantly asked to come aboard
placid thicket
anyway, it's best for the community if we all pretend Notch died, cause the person we new did.
carmine coyote
wintry swallow
ancient bolt
a couple people at mojang knows kashike directly
he could probably get hired if he actually wanted to
limber knotBOT
maybe
ancient bolt
and you do absolutely have a resume
your open source contributions are your resume
you need to learn how to build a resume and sell yourself
and that applies for all jobs
not just mojang
marble summit
No hire me at mojang so i can make minecraft python edition
Cause java sucks 
Lol
Reverse card
Muahahah
I win
cosmic raft
like
it's currently 23:22
I've been working on this since 15:31
python shit
just won't work
cosmic raft
python = fifty fucking thousand packages that aren't defined as dependencies to be auto installed
yay -S python-setuptools
yay -S python-six
yay -S python-appdirs
yay -S python-packaging
yay -S python-pyparsing
yay -S python-psycopg2
yay -S python-cryptography
yay -S python-paramiko
yay -S python-pyasn1
yay -S python-asn1crypto
yay -S python-bcrypt
yay -S python-cffi
yay -S python-pynacl
from earlier
marble summit
I would rather have 50k packages than 50k files per package dependency i put into my jar file
marble summit
Amazing, dumb brain java programmer does high brain python and fails at it
Teto is doing java now for my big pp mc server
I learned it in one day since its so ez
clear portal
Is block NBT data given to the client? I just learned that Minecraft chests have a built in "lock" feature and I just wanted to know how "secure" it could be.
void void
@cosmic raft im hungry food delivery please
cosmic raft
me too
void void
food delivery pls?
void void
.kill @cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
rips @kashike's intestines and uses them as a skipping rope.
cosmic raft
blame @haughty peak, not me! :D
haughty peak
void void
I blame kashike for not food delivery @ me and I blame asie because kashike told me to
limber knotBOT
#paper-dev
cosmic raft
@marble summit https://paste.gg/p/kashike/fd9bc2cc8cff4224a5bf535c02b4292e
please help
void void
idk @slim nymph are you still alive?
heavy rapids
@heavy rapids
vocal condor
worn ember
Yes.
vocal condor
worn ember
U wot
cunning birch
peak dirge
Going to be spreading the OpenJ9 love all around.
limber knotBOT
is it actually any good tho? zulu seems to be better in performance than it
peak dirge
The problem is that Zulu, unless I'm not looking hard enough, is a paid product, and not every Minecraft server can drop $2,500 on it.
left yacht
Dropping 2.5k on a risk isn't wise for any server owner lol
getting people to even try OpenJ9 is hard enough as is
void void
Are we talking about Zulu JVM @peak dirge
peak dirge
peak dirge
Zulu is Free to Download and Use.
I use OpenJ9 because that's what I've got experience using.
void void
I need to get my ass up to 12 one of these days, though I'm not sure where the rest of the Java ecosystem is at ๐
left yacht
java 8 over here, java 12 is edgy on 1.8.8.
peak dirge
Furthermore, Zulu itself is just a certified OpenJDK build.
And my belief is that AdoptOpenJDK builds (both those based on HotSpot and OpenJ9) are well-tested and sufficient for pretty much everyone.
On top of that, AdoptOpenJDK has a lot of strong supporters like Azul, IBM, Microsoft, and to an extent, Red Hat.
Azul has its own proprietary stuff that might be better than HotSpot or OpenJ9... but we're looking at "free and easy to adopt"
void void
peak dirge
That being said, I have a geriatric JDK version and will probably be installing something much newer.
Do I have enough JVMs? https://gyazo.com/f8239e3c03c2b5b5611086ae16e6b356
void void
no
quasi valley
where's java 9
peak dirge
๐
left yacht
java 9 is a meme
peak dirge
My Minecraft client with my OpenJ9 settings for servers surprisingly works quite well.
There's some stuttering and the FPS is lower when joining a server for the first time, but it works quite well.
Then it crapped out, but it appears to be a JourneyMap bug.
finite wave
@left yacht?
left yacht
uh you needed me?
worn ember
@finite wave ?
left yacht
@peak dirge well my game always stutters so shouldn't be a problem!
Stutters whenever it allocates memory anyway.
modern cape
peak dirge
Hehe
wicked ocean
anyone knows why i cant add player to my whitelist ?
it says "player does not exist" but he does xd
cedar spade
Get them to buy Minecraft
wicked ocean
thanks for that amazing help MD
found it myself
- Click server.properties
- Find "online-mode=true
- Make it online-mode=false
- That will allow cracked minecraft players to join
tardy lynx
Then anyone can join with that username if they know the server IP
cedar spade
Don't we all love piracy
left yacht
I don't support it period, but cracked servers exist
Though I only really believe they have a place for less wealthy parts of the world.
wicked ocean
i dont support it too cuz i have 800 steam games but not everyone can buy a game
cedar spade
Also yes, the whitelist alone is pretty useless if you have authentication turned off
wicked ocean
not everyone knows the ip its just for friends
left yacht
then you should be ok
and I don't judge you
authme or whatever variant people use these days is recommended though
wicked ocean
idc
pseudo vale
noble epoch
Would it be safe to upgrade to 1.14.2? I'm aware of the dev builds and stuff but I genuinely find 1.14.2 to be stable "enough" to play comfortably. I feel so barbaric playing in 1.13.2
placid thicket
Just keep in mind that in offline mode anyone of your friends or users could login as you and OP themselves or steal items in a heartbeat @wicked ocean
tardy lynx
I use 1.12.2 so...
noble epoch
I just wanna know if anyone else has a decent experience with it
wicked ocean
@placid thicket i dont have op , i do everything in cmd
placid thicket
Make a backup, but seems stable enough, make sure you check all your plugins first too.
@wicked ocean they could still steal from players and do other nefarious things, be careful
noble epoch
I don't really run many plugins, however I do want some sort of anti-cheat system, a few people on my server have been caught using x-ray through faction members slipping up in specific people's dm's
Like, I don't mind it lagging here and there, I've played on the build before and it genuinely felt smooth except for a few hiccups of lag which occured rarely
But server-wise I just feel hesitant but I guess I could test, just gotta make backups
placid thicket
14.1 had a vanilla x-ray bug, not sure if it's still in 14.2. check anticheats before updating to see what works for you
noble epoch
aight
void void
@noble epoch I wrote a plugin that logs (to a locked Discord channel) people who mine diamond ores at a certain Y level and then combine that with CoreProtect to find x-rayers, maybe works if you're not that many players. ๐คท
noble epoch
@void void I don't really have that many players on the server, when i do my wipes every 3 weeks the max amount of people that'll be on would be like 15.. On a consistent basis it's like 6-8
void void
I had a similar player base with it, and we found many x-rayers that way.
noble epoch
Hmm, is it uploaded anywhere?
void void
It's only for personal use but I can upload it soon, do Paper have their own plugin repo or can I put it elsewhere?
strange bane
There's the forums for distributing, but I'd just slap it on GitHub.
void void
That's a good idea, so you can see and compile the code yourself if you want to. ๐
Give me a few minutes.
strange bane
We just do in-game notifications:
Notch mined 4x Diamond at 4680, 11, -3971 in world.
Nothing special but works fine, CoreProtect is very useful for showing mining history with its preview feature.
void void
True true.
This is what the output looked like in my plugin.
So it grabbed in this case the activity for the last 15 minutes and printed that.
strange bane
I think we just print it out after 5 seconds of not mining anymore ore.
void void
And we knew that if people mined around 30+ diamond ores in 15 minutes, they were up to something.
noble epoch
I think the in-game one would be better for me, at least that way people would be aware of others using X-Ray
void void
Sure sure, in my eyes it's just a lot of spam regardless if people x-ray.
noble epoch
Yeah there's that too but I think people would rather be aware and call out any cheaters
cedar spade
We used to use Prism's ore logging for that, I think it searches for the vein as soon as the first block is broken
noble epoch
@strange bane so that one is CoreProtect right?
strange bane
No, CoreProtect doesn't do that, it just help seeing how players mined when you weren't looking.
noble epoch
Oh right, actually wait that would be very useful
strange bane
I wrote a class for ours. I don't know if it's written very well I wrote it quite a while ago. ๐
noble epoch
Hmm, well, I guess I could give @void void 's plugin a go if he is willing to share
void void
It's dependent of you having a Discord bot created already, just FYI.
noble epoch
@void void Yeah i could make one or get one of my mods to do it
void void
I dmed you.
pulsar wigeon
that would be a terrible blow to a lot of community projects tho
kashike is everywhere
peak dirge
One set of graphs. Makes me want to cry. https://gyazo.com/263656837341062db335b986619fb434
verbal horizon
pulsar wigeon
wow
didn't even realize i was using pre release software all this time :^)
bumped gtkmm2 to 3
release 1.0
strange bane
That's a long pre-release period. xD
pulsar wigeon
it's not really prerelease
golden gust
Yea, they've had stable releases, just, never really got bumped to v1
strange bane
Minecraft Earth is 2.0. ๐
heavy rapids
changes: they charge people a second time
otherwise it's just a regular major update
upper flicker
Minecraft 2.0: the Haskell rewrite
heavy rapids
*the PHP rewrite
woven otter
Minecraft 2.0. Now with more JavaScript!
void void
limber knotBOT
Reminder for @pulsar wigeon: EO
bedrock is minecraft 2.0
and as you can tell it wasn't an upgrade
left yacht
some would say it was a downgrade
in every way
though I do like the menus in it, about it.
stable rock
verbal garnet
isnt bedrock practically mc 2.0
void void
verbal garnet
or maybe hypixel's game could become the spiritual mc2
worn ember
as long as it has better modsupport
verbal garnet
if it lives up to this claim it should!
"Hytale includes a comprehensive collection of tools that grant players more creative power than ever, from model creation and animation to filmmaking, in-game scripting, and - of course - building with blocks."
golden gust
Really depends on a lot of factors, dev uptake is going to be pretty critical
limber knotBOT
s/Hytale/hypetale
heady spear
I don't like the name so I refuse to develop anything for hytale
verbal garnet
lol
limber knotBOT
Correction, <DiscordBot> <11Eโtnโa> "hypetale includes a comprehensive collection of tools that grant players more creative power than ever, from model creation and animation to filmmaking, in-game scripting, and - of course - building with blocks."
wat
heady spear
if they named it minecraftsquared I would be totally on board
verbal garnet
or we could all move over to minetest and have a free game that can be improved forever as the communty sees fit
limber knotBOT
u stupid
heady spear
can't we make an open source fortnite clone instead
wide chasm
Inb4 it's named BattleBus and everyone makes forks named after other things from the game.
heady spear
Great idea!
verbal garnet
why does that sound familiar?
heady spear
I like the way this is heading. Let's crowd source other ideas
golden gust
I mean, how many fortnite gamemodes do you reckon hyptale will get? ๐
wide chasm
We'll make one in C, but people complain it's too slow, so someone makes one in Assembly, but no one uses it, because it has no support.
silk bay
golden gust
Was more fun when the kmart guy was around ๐ฆ
verbal garnet
lets make one in basic because its easy
wide chasm
Let's make one in Basic in Minecraft.
Those command blocks are so powerful, they can do anything! /s
verbal garnet
redstone basic engine programmed to run a minecrft clone
heavy rapids
wasn't there some guy who implemented pokemon red in mc?
wide chasm
Yes
heavy rapids
qed Minecraft in Minecraft is the next logical step
worn ember
has anyone ever made a 64bit computer in mc?
wide chasm
I think there were some graphical calculators, but don't know if they were 64 bit.
worn ember
usually its either 8 or 16
wide chasm
Problem with 64 bit is that scoreboards only support ints afaik, so you'd have to use actual redstone, instead of functions/command blocks.
And when you use redstone, performance isn't a thing.
worn ember
rip
wide chasm
To be fair, Sethbling's Atari 2600 emulator in minecraft ran at 1 fps in 1.13, I think? So performance isn't really a thing with command blocks either.
golden gust
"Using the redstone based 64 bit accelerator, you can now run 64 bit applications on your redstone computer!"
verbal garnet
use-faster-eigencraft-redstone = true; performance problem solved
wide chasm
I doubt you can then run a 64 bit calculator at normal speed.
golden gust
Did it work? if so, who cares?!
wide chasm
True
worn ember
@golden gust go away yo fat noodle
wide chasm
Well I think there was someone who implemented neural networks in minecraft using command blocks, so who knows what's next.
verbal garnet
multicore performance gained by a minecraft server cluster
pulsar wigeon
is it just me or has discord been pretty shitty as of late
golden gust
No, messages are having issues here
normal echo
Normal or beta?
pulsar wigeon
normal here
void void
Discord brety horible can confirm
normal echo
I've had issues for weeks but I'm on canary
autumn dome
sturdy fulcrum
sup ladies
worn ember
@sturdy fulcrum dont assume my gender smh
sturdy fulcrum
๐ฆ
worn ember
I identify as a Taxi Driver
sturdy fulcrum
teal wigeon
void void
everyone on the server whenever they are will be able to hear it?
limber knotBOT
only if they have the website open in the background
there are solutions to play midi files with the inbuilt note block sounds
e.g. CraftBook includes such a function
void void
but they wil had to be close
to the note block?
i want something like radio
that is not possible?
limber knotBOT
no, you can play the sound globally
limber knotBOT
if you want full sound then you will need to either use a server resource pack or a website that runs in the background
void void
without that is not possible?
old badge
no
peak dirge
You can do it one of three ways:
- Terrible note block renditions played via a plugin.
- A website open in the background.
- Using a server resource pack.
That would be called a "boss bar", and there's a bunch of those plugins on Spigot.
void void
will it glich for example when there is raid?
limber knotBOT
no
you can display multiple bossbars at once, there even is a vanilla command to add new ones in 1.14
limber knotBOT
just try them, simple plugins don't need to be updated each minecraft update
sturdy fulcrum
true
void void
ok
btw if is there anyone here that could cuztomize me some configs i can pay with steam items
strange bane
Lol
void void
lol
limber knotBOT
wat
void void
There are plugins like Scoreboard TAB
that you can put diffrent animations, colors
i am not that much creative i want to make them match all together good
with same animations colors all that stuff
its just cuztomizing config
anyone understands me?
sturdy fulcrum
no
pulsar wigeon
"Someone set up and run my server for me. I'll pay with $0.03 cent steam items I got from some free shitty games."
dunno if that is more or less insulting than "exposure"
void void
its not that what i am asking
pulsar wigeon
like he obviously realizes work should be rewarded but uh
void void
it takes 10mins ?
void void
dont know how
pulsar wigeon
and that's why it costs more than 3 cent steam items
pulsar wigeon
i mean i doubt you have a burning flames team captain lying about
void void
i can give tf2 key
whic his 2.40$
for just to give me ideas what to put on scoreboard
and on Tab
yeah i mean 2$ is nothing but for 10mins idk
golden gust
$2 is $2
upper flicker
Will sell electroniccat for taco money
golden gust
๐ฎ
upper flicker
Bids welcome
sturdy fulcrum
you eat at taco bell and that isn't even a real taco
upper flicker
Taco Bell really is trash for tacos
sturdy fulcrum
gotta find the mexicans
i found my spot
10 steak tacos for $15
so ๐ฅ
must not live in the us
we get mexicans before you so they are most likely to camp out here
no wonder
i love that authentic mexican food
void void
sure
golden gust
I mean, there is a taco bell in the UK
Not that it really sounds appetizing from the stories
Also, how is discords spell checker so trash?
sturdy fulcrum
the only reason i have been in taco bell drive through in tha past year is for those nacho fries
sturdy fulcrum
i should grab some cheese from taco bell and grab some arbys fries with cheese and do a review
void void
ive been waiting for that
sturdy fulcrum
you guys probably don't even know what arbys is
yes
dm me pix
bro food is life
i need to seee
those dinky things look weak
is that even real beef bro
old badge
I feel sad because americans are always talking about tacos and how good they are but tacos are non existent where I live ๐ฆ
cedar spade
north macedonia
sturdy fulcrum
if u don't have real tacos i can teach you how to make them
if u have access to beef
and spices
let me change your world
dm me
i got u
peak dirge
Former Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia, Republic of North Macedonia, Macedonia, oh god what is going on with these names... oh, that's right, there was a silly despite between now-North Macedonia and Greece over the former's past name, "Republic of Macedonia"
sturdy fulcrum
@peak dirge shows up when we start taking about tacos
sturdy fulcrum
this is what i have been spending $15 on
peak dirge
Who knew that geopolitics could be so interesting?
sturdy fulcrum
rip embed
cedar spade
clip you pasted the same URL twice without a space
peak dirge
Truth isn't truth. - Rudy Giulani, taking the form of a drunk philosophy sophomore.
peak dirge
Oh look, I stole a line from John Oliver again.
cedar spade
god I haven't watched Last Week Tonight for ages
void void
its not state
peak dirge
Time to put a quarter into the "John Oliver line stolen jar"
void void
state?
cedar spade
Discord is dying help
old badge
how many people from Macedonia are in this discord? wtf
cedar spade
*North Macedonia
void void
Macedonia*
peak dirge
G E O P O L I T I C S S U C K S
void void
Noob*
Macedonia is Macedonia
the real one
who cares for Greece
Greece is Macedonia
yeah and who cares for greece
you care?
void void
Than stop bullshiting which one is which one
All that was Macedonia and greece took it
its not NorthMacedonia
cedar spade
*North Macedonia
sturdy fulcrum
i have a realm
void void
@spare venture are you greek?
cedar spade
dedicated server > realms
cedar spade
annoyingly there are people I know IRL who refuse to play Java Edition despite owning it and would rather pay for a Bedrock realm than just download JE
no u
void void
barty noob
peak dirge
cedar spade
oil mate
sturdy fulcrum
ill sell the domain if someone wants it
cedar spade
you're a fryom
sturdy fulcrum
and i don't even have a playerbase
limber knotBOT
https://timings.aikar.co/?id=91e1571e27bd4a36b2e5fb660c49bbf4 any idea how to avoid those lag spikes? (i think they happen becaouse of world saves)
golden gust
best advice I've got generally involves obtaining/creating a time machine
Somebody increase the auto save timing and it didn't seem to have a negative impact but does reduce how often it spikes (at the cost of obvious risks if it crashes)
static badge
No? Why would it
cursive oracle
Hello I planned to run a huge survival server for 1.12 (100-150 slots)
My question is does someone know good performance improvement/anti lag plugins?Paid or Free does not matter
Is there something to edit in the config files or should I use the pre-set by bukkit/spigot/paper?
pulsar wigeon
use TruAntiLag for sure ๐ฏ ๐ฅ ๐
limber knotBOT
morning
cursive oracle
@pulsar wigeon wow
dapper nacelle
[20:06:40 WARN]: Unknown block: minecraft:wall_sign[facing=south]
[20:06:40 WARN]: Unknown block: minecraft:wall_sign[facing=west]
[20:06:40 WARN]: Unknown block: minecraft:wall_sign[facing=east]
[20:06:40 WARN]: Unknown item: minecraft:sign
[20:06:40 WARN]: Unknown item: minecraft:rose_red
[20:06:40 WARN]: Unknown item: minecraft:cactus_green
[20:06:40 WARN]: Unknown item: minecraft:dandelion_yellow
pulsar wigeon
update
pulsar wigeon
it has since day 1
dapper nacelle
download link?
pulsar wigeon
WE had 1.14.2 adapters within an hour of md_5 committing
oh
i mean, it works lol
dapper nacelle
pulsar wigeon
idk what else we need to do
dapper nacelle
this link?
pulsar wigeon
we're still targeting 1.13
probably til we get a release out at least
but i'm not aware of anything in WE that doesn't work in 1.14 atm
since we have adapters for that stuff
WG is trickier since a bunch of required api changed
pulsar wigeon
i won't believe it til i see it, but at the same time i don't want to see it
dapper nacelle
man it was needed so badly
here
ignore the following folders
customitem and pluginmeta
still working on them
cedar spade
https://github.com/EssentialsX/Essentials/commit/2ea3d8943e20ddcea517a2839934743cd2a7d9a8 quality plugin maintenance
oh hey it me pinaple guy
fallen oracle
Lol
stiff yarrow
@dapper nacelle https://github.com/JustDylan23/Wands/blob/master/src/main/java/me/dylan/wands/spell/Spell.java what's going on here
I don't approve
dapper nacelle
what else should I do
stiff yarrow
just make a factory class
dapper nacelle
stiff yarrow
oof
this is some ENUM abuse
I don't even think its particularly safe to do it this way
just make a static factory for this stuff
dapper nacelle
I'll have to look into that
so public static final Type CONSTANT;?
for these things
so I can do Spell.POISON_WAVE
limber knotBOT
why are your spells singletons?
dapper nacelle
they are not?
anymore
public class Spell {
public static final Comet COMET = new Comet();
public static final Spark SPARK = new Spark();
public static final Launch LAUNCH = new Launch();
public static final Confuse CONFUSE = new Confuse();
public static final PoisonWave POISON_WAVE = new PoisonWave();
public static final BloodSpark BLOOD_SPARK = new BloodSpark();
}
@stiff yarrow
something in this direction?
stiff yarrow
no
not like that at all
I was suggesting static factory methods
in a static factory class
or
even in their own class
Spark() could have a static factory method
or you could just make a SpellFactory class
that has a method for all your spells
austere ivy
Is this true?
Lol it's true.
Dolphin's grace: "Squee'ek uh'k kk'kkkk squeek eee'eek." LOL.
dapper nacelle
@stiff yarrow it'd be weird to give another instance each time since the functionality of the class never changes
void void
Huh looks like Velocity doesnt work... ummm lol coming to waterdall ;D wtffff
dapper nacelle
but singleton is bad design
void void
idk idk
cedar spade
What problems were you having with Velocity?
dapper nacelle
cedar spade
It does, are you sure you set up your config right?
void void
try = [
"Auth"
]```Auth = "127.0.0.1:secret port"
forwarding-secret keys are set
player-info-forwarding-mode = "MODERN"```hmm what i did wrong
limber knotBOT
Reminder for DiscordBot: Nevermind that last one, yesterday was wednesday.
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void void
@cedar spade is that right config?
peak dirge
- You haven't provided enough information. What is the error you're getting, for one thing? Just saying "it doesn't work" isn't enough.
- This isn't exactly the correct place to ask an issue about Velocity, which has its own Discord.
void void
lol
stiff yarrow
@dapper nacelle then make the classes static you dingus
dapper nacelle
dingus?
stiff yarrow
not static classes but static methods
dapper nacelle
so basically singleton?
void void
oh now it conects now wtf
coarse urchin
what's the max length for MC names? 16 chars?
stiff yarrow
sure, but I'm not talking about singleton design pattern
limber knotBOT
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stiff yarrow
but you could do that too
dapper nacelle
I suppose I could
or I could use JSON instead of hardcoding like that
that'd be reflection hell
stiff yarrow
why the hell would you use JSON
dapper nacelle
since I am only setting behaviour
stiff yarrow
wut
dapper nacelle
public class Spark extends BaseSpell {
@Override
public BaseBehaviour getBaseBehaviour() {
return SparkSpell.newBuilder()
.setEffectRadius(2.2F)
.setEntityDamage(10)
.setVisualEffects(loc -> {
loc.getWorld().spawnParticle(Particle.SPELL_WITCH, loc, 30, 0.6, 0.7, 0.6, 0.2, null, true);
loc.getWorld().spawnParticle(Particle.SMOKE_LARGE, loc, 50, 0.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.08, null, true);
Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskLater(plugin, () ->
loc.getWorld().playSound(loc, Sound.ENTITY_FIREWORK_ROCKET_TWINKLE, SoundCategory.MASTER, 4.0F, 1.0F), 10L);
})
.setCastEffects(loc -> loc.getWorld().playSound(loc, Sound.ENTITY_FIREWORK_ROCKET_BLAST, SoundCategory.MASTER, 4.0F, 1.0F))
.setEffectDistance(25)
.build();
}
}
only builders
stiff yarrow
JSON is not used for such things
dapper nacelle
this solution doesn't feel very OOP
stiff yarrow
don't translate your data into JSON only to unwrap it into data again
that's just redundant imo
static badge
particles are implemented with packets and not json
and mind you sending raw json over the network is actually really fucking dumb
dapper nacelle
true
dapper nacelle
I could make a class named SpellRegistry
cedar spade
If you want users to be able to supply their own spells, then there's a valid argument for supporting JSON, but it won't help you with what you've already got
stiff yarrow
sure, you could use JSON in that case, but you wouldn't need to transform your own data into JSON in that case either
you already have your data
doing unecessary operations on it should be avoided
dapper nacelle
I still gotta add instances of all these implementations of BaseSpell somewhere
I need to be able to loop through them
stiff yarrow
well, you could do a register (map) and register spells at some point in your programs runtime
dapper nacelle
BLOOD_WAND(ItemUtil.getItemStack(() -> {
ItemStack itemStack = new ItemStack(Material.NETHER_WART);
ItemUtil.setName(itemStack, "&cBlood Wand");
WandUtil.setAsWand(itemStack);
WandUtil.setSpells(itemStack, Spell.BLOOD_WAVE, Spell.BLOOD_SPARK, Spell.BLOOD_EXPLODE, Spell.BLOOD_STUN);
return itemStack;
}));
```being able to set spells like this is really nice thoas for getting instances, if they are really static and not dynamic classes, then just do singleton pattern
singleton is fine if they are only used to define behaviours
otherwise you are just creating objects needlessly
austere ivy
Why do some people use for (;;)?
static badge
why not
austere ivy
It seems like a misuse and while (true) is just much more readable.
austere ivy
I don't know I don't use Kotlin ._.
static badge
oh
I keep forgetting which one of you 12 year olds is using it
micle is and ur just brian
acoustic pumice
old badge
looks nice
verbal garnet
Can somebody ELI5 the relationship between the Paper devs/community and MD_5? I do get the SLIGHT feeling people here aren't a fan of him. Paper seems to be generally superior so why is it still based off Spigot? Why are the two projects separate? Why have they not merged?
pulsar wigeon
lmfao
verbal garnet
why are the projects split then? shouldnt all dev jst be on Spigot?
golden gust
Well, yes, but then we can't make the changes we want
verbal garnet
(im not a real programmer so dont lol me too much)
golden gust
It's a political decision, we work on paper so that we can have the features and patches we want in the server, paper is also a really nice way for server devs to come together and contribute changes to
verbal garnet
So since md5 may not like certain changes theyd go unused.. I see.
is it wholy dependant on md5 then? if he stopped what would happen to paper?
wide chasm
It is dependent on Spigot, but if he'd stop, I guess Paper would just take over the entire process or something
static badge
if he stopped we would likely just take over tbh
not aware of any other relevant spigot forks
unless ur counting concrete
golden gust
We've talked about it, general consensus is that if he left we'd probably go use MCP or something
static badge
mcp would be nice
golden gust
Being able to base ourself off something like mcp or yarn would make development soooo much nicer for us and for plugin devs
verbal garnet
What is concrete? its hard to google lol
shy nova
Why use MCP rather than what's currently used?
wide chasm
md_5 uses some interesting mapping names.
static badge
concrete is sort of a meme and sort of real, not really relevant
shy nova
Also if you changed mapping tool would you have to modify the mappings/your code since I imagine the mappings aren't identical?
golden gust
Because then we'd be maintaining our own set of mappings vs something in the community already
shy nova
ah fair
golden gust
It makes a lot more sense when projects all working on the same thing work together
shy nova
yep
limber knotBOT
Fabric paper when
peak dirge
Paper: Mixin Edition
woven otter
yes mixins please
verbal garnet
sounds like a mega nightmare
limber knotBOT
Could be done gradually
static badge
it'd just be a lot of work
golden gust
Yea, there'd be a lot of things we'd have to address, but there is a lot of work we'd have to take over anyways
wide chasm
Just continue the trend set by md_5, suffix everything with Furnace; the amount indicates the file /s
verbal garnet
and mappings are how you guys determine where to inject code into the official jar?
golden gust
TileEntityFurnaceFurnace is best class and you know it
static badge
there's some good names too
woven otter
is it actually a thing
static badge
yeah
wide chasm
Mappings just convert the gibberish of the original jar to some more sane names.
peak dirge
BlockBurningLeaf
static badge
"GOLDEN_TICKET"
woven otter
limber knotBOT
Mapping remap Minecrafts obfuscated code to something readable
verbal garnet
oh a reverse compiler (kinda sorta)
static badge
figured out what that meant btw
verbal garnet
gfotcha
limber knotBOT
A reverse obfuscator, yes
shy nova
Is it a fairly dumb obfuscator that they use then? If it's just the names that have been changed
limber knotBOT
It's enough
wide chasm
It isn't anything super advanced
shy nova
Like I know some tools make huge changes
static badge
after looking through it appears to be used to indicate a chunk is too far from a player to be counted in view distance
golden gust
They use proguard or something afaik
static badge
which admittedly is what kash said it was
golden gust
lol
static badge
yarn maps it to a saner name too
golden gust
I've yet to try to dig into that system beyond much of a cursory glance and a bit of "wtf"
static badge
you really don't want to 
have fun playing "follow the 15 chained completablefutures"
shy nova
into deobfuscation?
old badge
quick question: Who was the person that came up with the idea of Paper? Like one day "you know what? I'm going to fork spigot and do it myself from now"
static badge
probably what happened
worn ember
Me obviously
wide chasm
Dark, get back to fixing your mod for 1.13.2
limber knotBOT
Rewrite it for fabric
worn ember
and i cant figure out what the fuck those methods even do
wide chasm
Look at the source
worn ember
well the source is more gibberish
limber knotBOT
Apply for a job at mojang and get the real source
worn ember
gotcha
shy nova
300iq
worn ember
i'll "accidentally" leak it
elfin bloom
shy nova
And a trillion dollar company will very much unaccidentally sue you lmao
worn ember
cant you guys just get some special permissions from Mojang or something? to get the source directly
or is that against their terms or some shit
shy nova
It's so stupid that they still even obfuscate it
peak dirge
they won't do it
worn ember
pussies
verbal garnet
id assume it was Z that started the project but i dont know how to nav githib easily enough to figure that out
peak dirge
A few bits are OSS, like Brigadier and DFU, and Aikar contributed some changes to DFU
limber knotBOT
I still believe
worn ember
lets bribe notch with 14billion
limber knotBOT
Apperetly searges blaze3d toy will be open source too
verbal garnet
Thanks for all the answers btw guys :3
limber knotBOT
It's always great to share this totally useless domain knowledge I collected over the last decade, lol
shy nova
blaze3d was delayed to 1.15 wasn't it?
void void
worn ember
dafuq is blaze3d?
shy nova
new rendering engine
old badge
they are going to ditch opengl?
limber knotBOT
No
Opengl isn't a rendering engine
It's a graphics api
The renderer sits ontop of that
Last time I heard talks about blaze3d was like 2 weeks back when searge said he rebased that branch ontop of current master and picked up work again, together with fry
So maybe 1.15 is reasonable ๐คทโโ๏ธ
old badge
what can we expect from this new Blaz3D thing?
limber knotBOT
Better performance (fps) and nicer graphics I guess
Plus maintainable code, build with modding in mind, so it's extendable
static badge
that'd put that one dude out of business rip
shy nova
sonic ether right?
static badge
well unless they didn't make the shaders themselves
worn ember
that dude makes 24k a month lol
limber knotBOT
Nah, they would just provide one set of shaders and community could write shader packs
old badge
I suppose the "shaders" is something along the lines of the "Super Secret Settings" that they made in 1.7 and removed in 1.9
limber knotBOT
And Cody still would have a place to earn some nice patreon money
cedar spade
The game has had built in shader support for years, just no easy way to load/enable them
The shaders are still shipped with the game and used in spectator mode
at least as far as I can recall they're still present
limber knotBOT
Idk, we will see what blaze3d brings when it lands
minor otter
Kind of a noob question here, but im making my own little "faction" plugin, only a bit different and not as complex :P
Im still going to have the basic features, such as clan description and was wondering if it should be a string or stringbuilder field in my object class :P
limber knotBOT
String builder as a field sounds wrong
minor otter
yeah to me too
limber knotBOT
And your hashmap should be a map
void void
Weird thing
minor otter
So it should be a String right?? oh yeah map sorry
wide chasm
I'd go for String as well
heavy rapids
^
cedar spade
StringBuilders are used to make it easier to stitch together Strings, there's almost never a reason to store them as a field
limber knotBOT
I also would consider making enemies a list<string> since thats easier to serialize and avoids cyclic references and shit
Meh I guess it's fine
minor otter
๐
heavy rapids
depends on the serialization method
minor otter
Any basic fields I've forgot when it comes to the "faction clan feature"?
heavy rapids
e.g. when using ConfigurationSerializable I prefer to user the real classes instead of handles
because I can just transparently wrap stuff in serialize/deserialization constructor
heavy rapids
I can't be bothered to do sql etc most of the time
wide chasm
I store my data in yml, please don't hurt me
heavy rapids
I do, too
limber knotBOT
Wait until you try to scale, lol
wide chasm
It hasn't died yet, surprisingly, cause the code is 4 years old.
Well, the code has been building up over 4 years
golden gust
"it compiles, push to master!"
heavy rapids
JPA looks nice
upper flicker
Donโt leak our development workflow
heavy rapids
but I can't be bothered to get accustomed to it rn :D
wide chasm
In the begin I didn't knkw how Git worked, so I drag and dropped files on GitHub
limber knotBOT
You want hibernate as jpa provider
golden gust
rip
golden gust
.g xkcd git
limber knotBOT
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heavy rapids
utilities everyone uses but noone understands :>
wide chasm
I did a commkt from Git Bash once. It was terrifying.
heavy rapids
git bash? that was something for windows right
golden gust
This tar which supports -a oooor?
wide hazel
@minor otter easier to give the faction a UUID
golden gust
Coz, with -a I got it
wide hazel
-h*
wide chasm
Git Bash is for Windows yes
heavy rapids
i see
limber knotBOT
Git bash, pfff
wide hazel
you 'spoloded, sorry
limber knotBOT
Wsl for life!
heavy rapids
git
ye
reflog
NO NO NO NO NO
magic ensues
NO
heavy rapids
yeah
limber knotBOT
@SmartAfrican, if you were smart you would at least consider that ppl don't put every second of their life into this open source project that you use for free
wide chasm
I normally use IJ for Git stuff, but I got a little too many merge conflicts over 8 months
heavy rapids
For merging I actually prefer IJ over the shell
golden gust
I just stuck to the cli, tbh
heavy rapids
that merge window is just too great
otherwise: commit/push inside IJ, everything else in the shell
limber knotBOT
Same, cli for everything but diffs and merges
spiral garden
i should (ab)use IntelliJ more, I do so many things manually just because I can't be bothered to do them from the IDE
shy nova
Do you guys dev on linux or windows? Do you use docker?
spiral garden
apparently there are ways to automate my plugin testing procedure
heavy rapids
I'm on linux and I don't use docker
limber knotBOT
Windows of course
golden gust
Saying that, most of what I do with git generally involves horrific rebases and stuff, so overall it's just easier to work on the cli
and macOS
limber knotBOT
And all my servers run in docker
shy nova
Oh lol cat, forgot about that
spiral garden
Windows, have used both macOS and Linux
shy nova
the forbidden OS
spiral garden
but I just can't be bothered to use those last two
shy nova
just close enough to posix to give you some real weird bugs
pulsar wigeon
i just tried using docker
heavy rapids
MINIX?
pulsar wigeon
selinux was not happy with me
shy nova
Heh what happened?
limber knotBOT
Docker is so cool
pulsar wigeon
fuck if i know
spiral garden
and so annoying on Windows
shy nova
I took some time to setup all of my MC servers in containers, it's a dream when it's working
It's really not too bad on windows imo
limber knotBOT
I do one commit to one of our plugins and our test server restarts with the updated plugins
shy nova
I use docker-toolbox or whatever the old version of the software was since my os isn't pro atm
can just do docker-machine start and then boom it's normal docker
acoustic pilot
Docker is virtualized on Windows so it's probably the worst possible platform to use Docker on, it's mostly intended for development unless you're using native Windows containers, which you most likely are not.
shy nova
Yeah I far preferred working with docker on linux
upper flicker
Worst possible platform to do just about everything on other than play games
limber knotBOT
Yeah, I don't run my docker containers on Windows, lol
acoustic pilot
Docker in Hyper-V in Win Pro is nice, but still virtualized.
shy nova
Though I still use it since it's a billion percent better than msys2/cygwin/mingw
limber knotBOT
Just wait for wsl2 ๐
shy nova
Z750 I'd love to use linux full time but I'm on a laptop
spiral garden
i would use linux, but then a bunch of bullshit software I use wouldn't work
shy nova
linux still fucks with laptops
spiral garden
mainly DVR stuff
upper flicker
I used Linux full time on my laptop all day
Just depends on your hardware and the amount of time you wanna put on it
tardy lynx
same
limber knotBOT
Linux on desktop is a meme
static badge
I used Windows full time on my laptop all day
spiral garden
i lose sharex if i go the way of the penguin
static badge
Just depends on your hardware and the amount of time you wanna put on it
worn ember
non
acoustic pilot
Only reason I like Docker on Windows is because too many Linux server software that doesn't run on Windows, like Redis, which I need to test with >_>
tardy lynx
Solaris
shy nova
Yeah I miss sharex D:
limber knotBOT
Linux just requires way to much work
spiral garden
i should see if my poor HP laptop with GMA950 graphics can run GeForce Now at all
shy nova
And also it's just a damn near constant battle for everything
limber knotBOT
That's why I like windows, it just works
shy nova
in my experience linux fucking hates going to sleep/hibernating EVER
worn ember
Windows for clients, linux for server, thats my mentality
limber knotBOT
It's made for dummies like me
tardy lynx
Linux 'just works' for me
shy nova
I know, on a desktop I'd use it every time
upper flicker
Works fine for me
limber knotBOT
See, you all arent as dum as me
cosmic raft
running mcp bot update, apparently 1.14 will insert 4646 classes, 16226 fields, 20474 methods, and 24828 method params
fun times
limber knotBOT
Linux breaks randomly for me
upper flicker
Microsoft trying to bandaid their garbage development platform by duct taping on a Linux vm is cool
acoustic pilot
I think a lot of people also pick up power user distros, stumble, and wonder where they went wrong
upper flicker
And Iโd probably even use it, but thereโs still the rest of windows attached
shy nova
also linux doesn't really have any good undervolting tools like throttlestop
worn ember
@cosmic raft oy, can you submit mappings to the bot from discord?
limber knotBOT
Yes
spiral garden
it'd be really cool if microsoft just decided to switch NT for the windows kernel
cosmic raft
https://discord.gg/h4whGT9 #bot-spam
spiral garden
but that would be a nightmare
cosmic raft
read-only right now
worn ember
;n;
cosmic raft
due to me doing the update for 1.14
worn ember
oki
limber knotBOT
Are the 4.6k new classes total new or did you already substract removed/renamed classes?
cosmic raft
those are totals, not just additions
limber knotBOT
Ok, that explains the high number
old badge
same
worn ember
yikes
upper flicker
๐ฎ just take this
limber knotBOT
Dumcord
acoustic pilot
only person goofy enough to mess that up is Z
upper flicker
Wasnโt
static badge
was
you have no proof
I saw the message
only I did
nobody can vouch for ur ass
and u deleted it too
so it was obviously a mistake
cosmic raft
its ok i'll fix it
static badge
sigh
cosmic raft
maybe Z will shoot me if I do though
static badge
you either die or make fun of z
low inlet
red tide
marble summit
NO FORTNITE IN MY CHRISTIAN MINECRAFT SERVER
wide hazel
/opt is one of the best places I've seen MC instances
golden gust
first startup on 1.14 or?
/opt Contains locally installed software. Originated in System V, which has a package manager that installs software to this directory (one subdirectory per package).[16]
wide hazel
it's not "installed" per-se, but yeah
I've seen it in /home and /var as well
of those three, I'd say /opt is the best
golden gust
Yea, people just kinda shove it where it fits
wide hazel
OVH puts all the disk space in /home, so makes sense somewhat there
atomic marten
i generally just shove it where it fits
golden gust
There ain't really an optimal place if you wanna go by the FHS
wide hazel
some VPSes load /var up as well