some people are pioneers
#general
void void
lol
rose pier
1 instance with a few worlds should be fine.
placid thicket
is multiverse even 1.14 ready?
tardy lynx
Kimsufi KS-7 if you don't need RAID or SSD
void void
use female lama to transver netty packets /:
limber knotBOT
i use female llamas to satisfy my urges
void void
Lol
rose pier
@tardy lynx and ...yiff? I'm checking out your recommended dedis, thanks.
limber knotBOT
they are not very different from male llamas, despite what some people say
void void
its okay alah made us queers
rose pier
How much space does a world take up? Suppose it's 2000x2000, or 6000x6000.
placid thicket
our world is 22000x22000 and fully rendered at 9gb
placid thicket
the overworld alone is 8gb, our other dimentions are not fully rendered
rose pier
Fully rendered... As in you keep the whole thing in RAM?
rose pier
Hehe right.
But at 9GB ramfs is feasible.
You just have to safeguard against corruption.
placid thicket
and we had to lower server render distance to keep the server from crashing
placid thicket
on a side note, reducing render distance to 7 has elimiated most of our chunk loading issues...
rose pier
How much CPU/RAM do your servers use to host how many players, and what's capping you?
Cool.
limber knotBOT
really depends on the kind of server you are running
strange bane
6GBs, 1.14 ๐
rose pier
Sure. Still it'll be useful baselines.
limber knotBOT
eh, paper out of the box is pretty good tbh
strange bane
(1.14 is what's capping me)
placid thicket
we are running a vanilla 1.14 server which is drawing 6GB with 10 players at 7 render distance and commonly sits at about 15% CPU ussage
limber knotBOT
how do you measure that?
meager solstice
/TeleportInTime to 1.14.2
limber knotBOT
stuff like /gc is very unreliable
rose pier
Nice. That sounds good.
placid thicket
its from watching a graph using manually plotted points throught the day using TOP to collect data
rose pier
Any clue on network usage?
meager solstice
are u AI bot
limber knotBOT
i am yiff AI
meager solstice
dont hec me pls
placid thicket
damn parrot keeps biting my hands as i type >.>
limber knotBOT
hey Flan, do you use -jar or aikars lauch flags?
placid thicket
meager solstice
cute birb
limber knotBOT
i had 2 parrots once, cat ate the male, female got too sad to contrinue eating and died from starvation
morale of the story - dont let cat eat parrots
placid thicket
yiff java -Xms128M -Xmx6656M -jar server.jar
limber knotBOT
not shared host?
placid thicket
use a host that doesn't allow custom JVMS, graph stats are from a local test server
limber knotBOT
ah
a bit out of place, but consider investing into VPS at least, youll get much better performance and save quite a bit of money
placid thicket
We are at $7/mo, not likely
limber knotBOT
thats more than enoughg
shared hosts mostly have no idea what they are doing and just resell out of the box systems
this will beat 99% of shared hosts https://www.ovh.com/world/vps/
placid thicket
i worry about 1Vcore being enough, along side minecraft we have a few databases and a website
limber knotBOT
most shared hosts are overselling like mad, why wouldnt they
just try out different options with VPS/DEDIS when you get a chance, some have free trials, youll never go back
placid thicket
i actually have my own server capable hardware, i'm just worried my 20Mbp/s upload cant support it
limber knotBOT
idk m8 trial and error, youll get there
placid thicket
that and there are some reliability issues with the internet >.>
<insert ISP> sucks... only care about buisness clients
both the ISPs in my area offer only 20up but if you are a busniness you can use the dedicated 1000up line in the neighborhood. having spoken to the IT people they told me it's actually the same line but they just dont offer high uploads to consumers, "but i can get 600 down and that's all you should need, upload is useless anyway"
wide chasm
lol
rose pier
That Kimsufi KS-9 seems to be an excellent starting point. Unfortunately it's sold out.
merry talon
if you have a somewhat reputable shared host
you're going to have a much better time with them than a vps at the low end
placid thicket
can someone link me aikars flags?
golden gust
.flags
limber knotBOT
Optimized & Recommended JVM Startup Flags: https://mcflags.emc.gs
placid thicket
damn, that was fast lol
marble summit
Who wants maximum edge
placid thicket
hit me up fam
limber knotBOT
drop your shared host, see https://www.kimsufi.com/us/en/servers.xml
marble summit
@everyone Commit ๐ณoose ๐ณeck
@placid thicket The maximum edge has been achieved
limber knotBOT
rare palm
placid thicket
This is getting out of hand!
user was AFK fishing for 10 hours, there are 67 of these assholes stuck in this hole, we still dont know why they all collect here
placid thicket
thing is, this hole is nowhere near the village, it just seems to be the only valid spawn point as the user lives in a giant mountain range
grand zinc
worn ember
still in beta
placid thicket
big X from me
spiral garden
@placid thicket hopping in to complain about ISPs: my ISP is super reliable, but the speed craps out very often
austere ivy
or just nonexistent
existant?
yeah and uhh
2gb ddr3 1066mhz ram isn't exactly the greatest
seems the only ones that aren't "being replenished" are 17+
ovh is mor epopular
๐
uhh no?
ovh is it's own company that sells vpses and dedis
I don't
wait does Kimsufi have anything to do with ovh?
whaaat
void void
fix bork internet packets of mojang by more internet bandwich
got memory leak? mor ram
double entities? ahah dounble GHZ
cedar spade
Kimsufi are normally sold out of the cheaper ones, because they're dirt cheap storage
austere ivy
the BEST ones
void void
what is memory leak? idk my single minecraft server uses 32gb atm
austere ivy
y'kno the one that advertises F R E E S E R VE R S
void void
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
placid thicket
i can give you a free server if you can deal with 2gb of ram, no direct access and Paper issues
austere ivy
the only actual free one I've ever seen is Aternos
literally unusable though
I mean kind of usable though
Oh, by the way, do you guys name your plugin's main class, the one that extends JavaPlugin, "Main" or the name of your plugin?
wide chasm
Name of the plugin.
austere ivy
I used to use Main but now I'm thinking about naming conflicts, and additionally it makes more sense to have "EconomyPlugin" in other classes rather than just "Main" so I might just switch on over to the name of my plugin.
wide chasm
Naming conflicts shouldn't arise if your package is different (which they should be between different projects).
austere ivy
Not naming conflicts per se, but more of usability if I'm hooking into other plugins too
My package is always com.outlook.tehbrian.(pluginname) but I think I might get tehbrian.co soon, so then it could just be co.tehbrian.(pluginname) ๐
wide chasm
I used to do e-mail address as well, but then when I wanted to submit my framework for Maven Central they denied it because of that, so I guess I shouldn't use that.
limber knotBOT
only if they're blood diamonds
diamonds are worthless if people don't suffer for the art
austere ivy
[Content Deleted]
stef, really?
Maybe I should use t3hbrian.github.io or something like that..
wide chasm
Java's package naming conventions are ugh anyway, so I just use something that was unique to me.
austere ivy
com.tehbrian
๐
Brian Pearson owns that. He's my arch nemesis.
Graduated where I live, he looks like me, and for some reason he also got github.com/tehbrian, and also tehbrian on Steam.
Someday I'll track him down, find him, and take what he's taken from me.
limber knotBOT
so basically what you're telling me is that you have a split personality disorder
austere ivy
It's just strange.
cedar spade
yes
limber knotBOT
most mental illnesses are
austere ivy
He also has the same first and almost last name of me.
And I mean look at that logo, that's a great logo.
limber knotBOT
so basically what you're telling me is that you're trying to find his grindr profile
cedar spade
brain peasorn
worn ember
Any suggestions on what to do with my (rather shitty) VPS? I bought it to get the hang of linux terminal and some basic commands but now its kinda idle
limber knotBOT
whatever you do, don't run paper on it
cedar spade
Host a build server
limber knotBOT
then it might be on-topic
golden gust
I was about to say, create a website so people interested in reading about you and stuff might take a look
worn ember
i got nothing to build ๐ค
golden gust
ANd then, well, I remembered it's you, soooo
worn ember
rude
austere ivy
Once I get a vps I mainly want it for mc test servers
limber knotBOT
hey at least it would be a short read electroniccat
austere ivy
I have t3hbrian.github.io
it
could be tehbrian.github.io
but since mr. brain peresoan wants it
:(
placid thicket
@worn ember put a list of every known bug in 1.14 (and paper) on your site so we can spam it at people
worn ember
isnt that what the bugtracker is for?
limber knotBOT
start a gambling website for fortnite
worn ember
wow
limber knotBOT
what does yours look like brian
worn ember
gambling site for a kids game, what could go wrong
austere ivy
I say that we start to revolt, and we rebel.
We make a resistance and we OVERTURN BRIAN PEARSON
cedar spade
looks like it says "FUCK"
placid thicket
TBH still havent fully figured out how to use the bug page... syntax is hard...
worn ember
i never reported a bug so got no clue
prime coral
worn ember
lol
austere ivy
Whatever, I have TehBrian Inc.
austere ivy
Which is literally epic
cedar spade
limber knotBOT
golden gust
Mines just bad
limber knotBOT
I work on my code every day but I never commit until I am ready for a public release
golden gust
limber knotBOT
#winning
austere ivy
I'm telling you if we get large enough we can overturn Brian Pearson
Whoa, nice electronic.
austere ivy
Looks like an RPG flight game.
unreal quarry
๐
austere ivy
GEOMETRY DASH.
Y'know those tunnels where they have those spikes on the roof and floor
golden gust
He'd just make us cry
austere ivy
unreal quarry
better @meager perch ?
golden gust
heh
void void
cringe
austere ivy
so uh anyone want to join tehbrian inc
to start the uh
rebellion
against brian pearson
we have cookie fridays
and team building tuesdays
void void
actualy do comits like swazenager and try to wercome eachother goys
unreal quarry
who is brian pearson?
austere ivy
my arch nemesis
golden gust
I bet billy commits like a semi
void void
damn i need damage_control.exe
golden gust
commit fix fix fix
austere ivy
I do that :(
unreal quarry
sometimes, cat ๐
golden gust
โค
golden gust
Been there too
austere ivy
Commit: Accidentally changed other code, revert
Commit: Revert the reverting of file system, but keep accidental code change
golden gust
Worse part is when jenkins blows up and stuff is failing for odd reasons
Think you've fixed it and boom
austere ivy
๐ that's how true version control is meant to be used
unreal quarry
what i hate is when jenkins ignores [ci-skip]
austere ivy
I'm guilty of this you can see this on my website
void void
Commit: #hey can u please make it better iam playing multiplayer
austere ivy
Some of my favorites:
golden gust
ci-skip doesn't work with webhooks or something afaik ๐ฆ
unreal quarry
yeah, it pissed me off last night. i just gave up
purpur has 7 new builds that change nothing
\o/
void void
das obergrupentrupen comit
austere ivy
Me trying to change audio on my website:
As you can see I'm a very professional high quality developer
void void
lool me is like:
1 made huge program for win10 privacy
2 expanded it
3 broke it
4 fixing broke by breaking it more
5 rewrite code on other
6 go back where i started
cedar spade
austere ivy
unreal quarry
@austere ivy
void void
and after win 10 1803 i gave up (since 1803 it started to fite back)
spiral garden
fuck my ISP crapped out spectacularly
golden gust
Reminds me of our experience with travis
cedar spade
golden gust
next step will probably be to learn how to use circle-ci
golden gust
wooooo
spiral garden
fuck me
austere ivy
What?
spiral garden
Rate: 10Mbps
austere ivy
Oof.
sharp hatch
Eitherway its bad
spiral garden
@void void how would i upload a screenshot from the computer if it doesn't have internet
austere ivy
didn't you just say it had 10mbps
void void
YES
spiral garden
thats the cable link
but the connection itself isn't working
which means no internet
austere ivy
oยฌo
void void
em
golden gust
bad cable?
void void
what cause is it
spiral garden
yeah bad cable
void void
DNS?
spiral garden
probably
void void
ok
spiral garden
to be fair it's been the same cable since 2012, exposed to bulgaria's harsh conditions
it's not underground fibre unfortunately
austere ivy
spiral garden
wtf is this cortana shit
stiff yarrow
@unreal quarry I've got a similar series of commits
spiral garden
hackerman
stiff yarrow
it ends in failure
unreal quarry
with travis?
stiff yarrow
no with Jenkins
void void
it is telemetry that records everything u type
stiff yarrow
was trying to get Jenkins to accept a certain build parameter
and then rename the file based on that
void void
waches from every corner
stiff yarrow
I haven't used Travis
spiral garden
image geotagging probably
stiff yarrow
Stop Brian I can only win so much
unreal quarry
jenkins is a piece of cake compared to travis, at least from my experience
i can do jenkins with my eyes closed
i never got travis to work, tho
golden gust
What was the issue with travis?
stiff yarrow
yeah, for me our POM file was doing weird shit, I got close to figuring it out but then gave up because I was tired
golden gust
if you're building paper, wanna make sure that you looked at our travis file
We have to do some stuff to get it to work
unreal quarry
i dont remember now, cat. i was trying to build ridables, but being a nms heavy plugin travis needed paper installed. so i went down that rabbit hole and suffocated
golden gust
Depends
stiff yarrow
^
golden gust
I mean, it's just programming
stiff yarrow
some of it is very easy to understand, other parts are a maze 
golden gust
Only, with the headaches that you have no real method names and documentation
austere ivy
What are some things that you need nms for?
stiff yarrow
cmon Brian
austere ivy
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
stiff yarrow
austere ivy
I'm gonna guess fake things.
stiff yarrow
you should use NMS sparingly
usually you use it to compensate for lack of API
either because API will never happen for that thing, or because you're working on older versions of the game with lackluster API
austere ivy
Why won't API happen for that thing?
golden gust
Having fun with backwards compat nossr?
stiff yarrow
depends on the thing
golden gust
Stuff like entity snapshots
stiff yarrow
@golden gust gabi will be helping a lot with it so I'm not too worried
golden gust
likely not going to happen on Bukkit
austere ivy
Entity snapshots?
golden gust
e.g. the ability to serialize entities
austere ivy
Oh.
stiff yarrow
the thing to keep in mind Brian, is a public facing API usually doesn't break without warning, NMS is much more volatile and even small patches for MC can mean different NMS classes to do the same thing
so if you work with NMS, you have to handle that abstraction yourself
to support multiple versions of the game
austere ivy
Sounds like a pain.
But that's basically what Bukkit is, right?
Abstraction for nms, with useful methods for interacting with it all?
stiff yarrow
you can change a lot of things using reflection and class loading, its just really sketchy and you really should know what the implications of the things you are diddling will be
golden gust
Well, no, that's what CB is
API defines the interfaces, etc
CB provides the abstractions for that to work
austere ivy
Er, yeah, CraftBukkit sorry.
stiff yarrow
@austere ivy yeah and you'd need to abstract away the NMS in your plugin if you want to keep maintenance sane
austere ivy
I can imagine, since you'll have to be doing a lot of remappings.
stiff yarrow
you could, but not necessary
you just need to provide interfaces and and implementations that handle those interfaces for each version of MC using NMS
austere ivy
And those would require mappings from nms to usable code, right?
stiff yarrow
no
you don't need to remap anything
you abstract it away
remapping is for convenience
austere ivy
Not remapping exactly but like..
public String getBlahBlah() {
return nms.a.aX;
}
or whatever.
I've never used nms so ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
stiff yarrow
yeah sure, that could be part of your implementation
austere ivy
And you'd have to kinda remap those for the implementations for each mc version, right?
That's what I meant by remapping
golden gust
Basically yes, you'd need to re-implement all of that for each version you wish to support
unreal quarry
@austere ivy let me tell you a story about the dangers of NMS... Once upon a time, there was a cool server side plugin to handle the jobs for a client side mod, SpoutCraft. This plugin was, for obvious reasons, extremely NMS heavy. One of the updates between MC versiosn the devs got lazy. They shipped it as soon as it compiled. Users were happy. They were happy. Everyone was dancing and drinking beers together. Until.... they found out one of the NMS methods was remapped to something else. The two methods were so close in signature that the IDE or compiler didnt see any difference at all. What ended up happening, though, was every. single. air block. in. the. entire. world. turned. to. stone. All of it. stone. Just like that. Thats why NMS now has revision numbers in the package names, although md_5 doesnt understand how to properly update them when he updates mappings.
austere ivy
.. yikes
stiff yarrow
remappings are a bit different Brian, remappings are basically changing the name of things to make your life easier
cedar spade
"what revision number? fuck that I'm making my own"
austere ivy
Yeah reimplementing interfaces I guess
stiff yarrow
you wouldn't be remapping there, you'd be doing implementations
you could remap stuff too if you wanted
but its so unecessary
a lot more work
CB remaps stuff to make development a bit easier
although not much is remapped
go look at Forge for a more extensive remap
Forge still has obfuscation but a lot of it has names
its quite nice
unreal quarry
forge at least has srg mappings to fall back on where mcp is not updated yet
but mcp covers like 90% of things
on the bukkit side of things, maybe 10% is deofuscated ^_^
austere ivy
Historic, isn't it. The last bukkit commit.
Why don't people commit to Bukkit straightly anymore? I know about the whole DMCA thing but that applied to CraftBukkit, not Bukkit, right?
pulsar wigeon
no real point in writing api with no impl?
also more than one thing happened there
it wasn't just the DMCA on CB
the bukkit project itself was ended
austere ivy
Can't it just be revived?
austere ivy
I get that Spigot and Paper are supposed to be the reviving but just feels strange.
Theoretically, can't CraftBukkit just be rewritten?
pulsar wigeon
no?
austere ivy
Again just in theory.
pulsar wigeon
or do you mean from scratch
austere ivy
Yeah.
golden gust
The gains of CB is that it's based on NMS, which was the basis of the DMCA
austere ivy
The DMCA didn't touch Bukkit itself, right?
And I quite like Bukkit's API so (theoretically) can't we just from scratch rewrite CraftBukkit and keep working on Bukkit instead of having to work in patches and forks and all these things?
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
tropic flame
that's what the Glowstone project is doing, Brian
stiff yarrow
if you rewrite CB you have to make the choice to break compatibility with everything, and it wouldn't be a fully fledged API for a long time
a lot of dev hours
basically at that point
just go use Sponge
tropic flame
a cleanroom implementation of the Bukkit API
austere ivy
I have to go reread what happened with the DMCA, but isn't it just whatever code that one guy wrote?
Or is it that it uses nms?
golden gust
It's a whole lot of code that he wrote
Also, you can't just strip his code and rewrite it
austere ivy
Why not?
golden gust
That causes a looooot of legal gray-areas
austere ivy
Copyrighting code is a fickle thing.
Is it just what was physically rewritten? Can you just strip his code and pinky promise not to remember any of it and try to rewrite it?
Is it the THEORY behind it? How it was done?
Blegh.
So what about stripping his code and anything that references his code?
That basically removes his mark on everything, right?
golden gust
Because you're still relying on parts of his code
e.g. any behavior that was induced by it
austere ivy
But you strip his code and anything that ever referenced his code.
golden gust
You rewrite code and change behavior, you break stuff, you copy his code in behavior, and you enter the whole clean-room issues
austere ivy
So like if he wrote ChatColor, then theoretically you can remove ChatColor and all of the messages stuff aswell.
unreal quarry
the dmca only holds water because of distributing gpl code with non gpl code. if you separate the two and only send the gpl code and make the end user obtain the non-gpl part themselves then there is no worries. thats why BuildTools and Paperclip exist
stiff yarrow
the thing is, you get a DMCA and then github is just gonna honor that they probably won't arbitrate it
probably minimal levels of arbitration
austere ivy
What a much simpler time.
When it was just Bukkit.
Maybe if you were superfancyโข you were using Spigot.
golden gust
forks exist of any software
stiff yarrow
you mean Spout?
golden gust
The concept of forks here is literally no an issue whatsoever
austere ivy
I'm not talking about the forks
I'm just talking about how much simpler it was
before the entire DMCA happened
stiff yarrow
simpler what was
golden gust
The issue is that in a project not following it's own license got it's feathers ruffled by somebody who was a major contributor to a lot of the foundations
stiff yarrow
the complexity has not really changed imo
the build process got messier
thats all
unreal quarry
tbh i hated the bukkit team members. i tried to get in with them with contributions and stuff, but they were all high and mighty, full of themselves. tried again with spigot, but md5 was the same (plus he has this habbit of stealing code, but i wont go into that). paper is the first project that didnt treat me like a peasant ^_^
void void
can't believe that all happened in 2014.
stiff yarrow
or rather cleaner..
unreal quarry
โค paper \o/
golden gust
(Bukkit had already called it quits at that stage afaik anyways)
hehe, we'll look at his PRs eventually
austere ivy
pfft Billy
stiff yarrow
time to slide into DMs
austere ivy
you're still a peasant in our hearts Billy โค
austere ivy
Just kidding you're pretty great Billy.
tropic flame
"hey why can't i fish" "switch to 1.7, 1.8 is buggy" "oh thank you"
unreal quarry
@golden gust feathers ruffled? more of a case of "its my ball, and i dont want to play anymore" ^_^
golden gust
๐
sullen crescent
tropic flame
personally if I made an interview to someone I'd try to get questions that don't require you to have an understanding of the game
austere ivy
tropic flame
... but I mean, a 6th grade student, alright
austere ivy
Whaaat, jeb_ doesn't write code anymore? :(
tropic flame
6th grade kids should know what herobrine is ๐
golden gust
I wish that there was an easy way to simulate what would happen if you hit squash and merge with travis or something
tropic flame
"Last feature I wrote any code for was the Illager Beast." that's what, 1.12?
austere ivy
Illager Beast was introduced 1.14
tropic flame
... oh, I was confusing it with the vindicator then
well that's still pretty recent then
unreal quarry
vindicator is an illager
tropic flame
ok I'm talking about that unused villager sorcerer thing from 1.12 that you can spawn with /summon
unreal quarry
theres also a secret one (apparently most dont know about?) that i enabledin my ridables plugins and in purpur
the Illusioner
spiral garden
update: cable definetely fried, people are going to come to fix it tomorrow
tropic flame
... ok it's the illusioner
unreal quarry
vindicator, evoker, illusioner (hidden one), and now pillagers. they're all illagers
tropic flame
yeah I meant the illusioner lmao
unreal quarry
you can spawn them using /summon
i attached them to the biome's natural spawns so that they spawn like any other mob
they are quite nice
and difficult to kill
rose pier
Is the anti-xray in Paper settings good?
It sounds like a plugin I used to use. It was extremely CPU intensive.
stiff yarrow
yeah mode 2 is good
golden gust
not existent in 1.14.x right now, but we tested it and it was a faster than orbfuscator
stiff yarrow
probably a lot faster
rose pier
As I recall CPU was at 100% with 15 users with orbfuscator or so.
golden gust
There was some benchmarks in the original PR for it
stiff yarrow
as cat said, its temporarily not-functional in 1.14.x, but if you're on 1.13.2 try it out
rose pier
Okay. I take it I'd need to use an older version to have it though. Is using an older version like that recommended?
I haven't set up the server yet.
I'm waiting to get my dedi.
rose pier
Huh. That's so strange.
Is it common for Minecraft players now to be playing older versions then? 1.12/1.13?
Years ago when I was active in Minecraft you had better update your server quickly, because people updated their clients.
stiff yarrow
yeah its not like that anymore
left talon
stiff yarrow
many people cling to 1.8 for example
and some servers are still on 1.12 because their special plugins never update
rose pier
Huh. I assume they did something drastic after that.
stiff yarrow
1.13 changed a ton of stuff internally so it broke most mods
so a lot of servers are on 1.12 for silly reasons
rose pier
Hm.
stiff yarrow
1.13.2 is quite stable and has most new stuff
rose pier
I don't want a ton of mods but I do want some. Mainly stuff to prevent cheating and griefing.
stiff yarrow
its the version to play imo until 1.14.X is stable
rose pier
Sweet, thanks.
unreal quarry
1.14 is good if youre server isnt too big
rose pier
There used to be a plugin I used a lot which let you code things in some scripting language rather than use Java and proper plugins. Does that ring a bell? I hope it's still around.
unreal quarry
i have 5-20 players and its running pretty alright
tropic flame
1.14 is bad, wait for optifine, players like me suffer ๐ข
stiff yarrow
sounds like Skript
unreal quarry
optifine is client side @tropic flame.. the 1.14 client is amazing
golden gust
I mean, the hopeful goal and what it looked like with the pre's was that mojang would drop 1.14 and it would be stable enough for everybody on 1.13.2 to jump and those who lingered on 1.12.2 because of the perf issues with 1.14 would be able to jump over too
And well...
stiff yarrow
1.14 client runs great for me
austere ivy
@-3
golden gust
We all see how that happened
austere ivy
1.14 client is AWFUL for me
rose pier
@craggy cosmos Optifine for better client graphics?
tropic flame
@unreal quarry yes, optifine is client-side, and I'm saying to wait until there's a stable version, and no it is not amazing
stiff yarrow
Brian you're on a 15 year old computer
tropic flame
and neither is the 1.13 client
golden gust
Would be interesting if the people complaining of perf downgrades in 1.14 would note their GPUs and stuff
austere ivy
I went from 40-50 fps 1.12 to 5-10 fps 1.14
tropic flame
@rose pier Optifine for optimizations that make minecraft perform much better than vanilla
unreal quarry
i went from 400fps in 1.12 to 800fps in 1.13 to 1400fps in 1.14
stiff yarrow
did you gen a new map for your test Brian
unreal quarry
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
tropic flame
and yes, more customizable graphics settings
austere ivy
unreal quarry
theres your problem, brian
austere ivy
Wait what
unreal quarry
you haz a potato
tropic flame
@unreal quarry I personally can't play without optifine so ๐คท
golden gust
Mojang bumped the rendering stuff recently
Modern cards will be happy, older cards will cry
stiff yarrow
the performance you get in Minecraft is really a crap shoot
unreal quarry
brian
stiff yarrow
Brian ask mom for a new laptop
austere ivy
I hope to get a 2015 macbook, it seems to be a good laptop and with my current situation I need one.
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
tropic flame
well I probably won't get a new pc in a few years
austere ivy
Current situation
stiff yarrow
why
austere ivy
I'm going from Michigan to Colombia about every 2-3 months.
tropic flame
lmao "why" don't travel lol ffs /s
austere ivy
Can't change it.
stiff yarrow
if youre parents are rich ask for a 2019 computer
normal echo
What other games can you play?
austere ivy
They're not.
unreal quarry
can afford to go to columbia every 2-3 months, but cant afford a new pc :3
tropic flame
that's why he wants a laptop maybe
tropic flame
because he travels
stiff yarrow
is she just renewing her short stay visa over and over
unreal quarry
all i'm saying is, you cant judge minecraft's performance when you're stuck on a potato. just because your experience sucks, doesnt mean everyone else's does. ๐
tropic flame
why not get in the weed business while in colombia, you get money and then buy a computer
golden gust
oh god
austere ivy
Legal citizens in both America and Colombia.
Logics weed business isn't good here.
Cocaine's where it's at.
tropic flame
oh sorry did I forget the /s ?
austere ivy
I read it ;)
tropic flame
@austere ivy well fun lmao
golden gust
Apparently in saudi or somewhere like that, there are people who literally just renew their short stays
Literally just hop on the highway, spend a few hours in the next country and pop back over
stiff yarrow
yeah, usually you do that if you don't work in the country you stay in
or if the country has no work visa
which would be unusual
stiff yarrow
RIP brian grandpappy
austere ivy
Yeah.. :(
He had some.. interesting real estate here in Colombia.
But it's not great here, Colombia is truly awful.
austere ivy
We're also right next to Venezuela.
stiff yarrow
yeah so why do you keep going there every 3 months
austere ivy
Crime rates have skyrocketed as Colombia has open borders.
Because we're dealing with the real estate.
So we basically have to stay in the real estate.
unreal quarry
sell it and buy 15 gaming pcs?
austere ivy
Because going outside is super dangerous. People here get kidnapped all the time, some our friends have been kidnapped previously for a couple years, even.
That's the plan, Billy.
rose pier
What plugins do you guys recommend for anti-cheat and anti-grief? General recommendations for a survival semi-vanilla server also appreciated! ๐
austere ivy
COP has also been going down in value, so once we eventually can hopefully sell it and get back to America, it might be lower than what it cold've been.
So laptop it is >_>
unreal quarry
rip dreams of decent gaming
austere ivy
;-;
tropic flame
aren't there good gaming laptops though
austere ivy
Well soon once we get outta here I want to get a decent computer.
tropic flame
might not play with everything at ultra but come on, for minecraft
austere ivy
Over there in America I have a 2012 laptop.
It's better, which isn't saying much, but definitely better.
unreal quarry
wait.. you have 2 laptops? why cant you just have 2 desktops?
limber knotBOT
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austere ivy
:thonkintensifies:
austere ivy
I actually wish we could just pick up this real estate and move it to America.
It might even be profitable then lol.
๐
void void
gloomy sphinx
id have social anxiety too if i had millions of dollars
austere ivy
If I could get both millions of dollars and social anxiety I'd take it
you'd had enough money to fly off to a remote island and build a fully working house there
tropic flame
with millions of dollars you could pay for a psychologist to help you
... or to fly off to a remote island
that also works
gloomy sphinx
no
void void
Hi
void void
why pay just invent the first superintelligence that is seeded with the human consciousness
go big or go home
void void
and by home, i mean the dirt
austere ivy
Is tehbrian an actual thing
BRIAN
MASON
IS THE ONE WHO TOOK @austere ivy
@TEHBRIAN
hold up
Did a twitter account repost my reddit post?
void void
more than likely
austere ivy
void void
some people write bots that do just that
void void
some people write bots that do just that
austere ivy
Yeah I know it's just weird.
void void
just know they likely didnt actually go thru the effort to find your post specifically
they just trawled a subreddit more than likely
(or a few)
austere ivy
Twitter
weird..
What's paper-29?
Oh.
Wow this is really strange.
Just tons of accounts posting what I post on reddit.
void void
Damn, I really dunno how I wanna do this. I have multiple records in one table in sql that relates to a single record in another table, but I want to cache this stuff.
I.e. Table One (user) has a user_id; and then Table Two (records) has user_id and type_id. The typical retrieval is select X from Y where user_id=A AND type_id=B. I have a loading cache that pulls out of the db and caches for later with that specific query.
The problem is I also have a query where I want to select every result where user_id=A or type_id=B so no constraint on both, just one. My loading cache doesn't work that way. The only way I see to circumvent that is to have another cache. But that bothers me severely.
So if anyone wants to shoot some tips @ me k thx โค
Guava cache btw
indigo cloud
limber knotBOT
maybe he'd get invited if he stopped reposting everything he saw on /pol/ unto twitter
notch is basically becoming mcafee 2.0
Anyone here know why Hoppers freeze in taco?
that's a wild sentence
?
strange bane
Taco is supported?
strange bane
Loading chunks are never desirable.
void void
OZe: It causes the chunk to load synchronously (i.e. on the main thread), which then gets unloaded because no one is in it, which then gets loaded again the next tick (50ms later or less) for the hopper to do it all over again.
And...so on.
limber knotBOT
java12, paper29 time out https://pastebin.com/QYg6h0mk
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update to latest
limber knotBOT
is paper 29 not latest?
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you're not on 29
limber knotBOT
sorry, im tripping balls, a bit too late for me
paper29, what happened here? https://pastebin.com/KUui1Ydi
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chunk load
heavy rapids
smh https://old.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/bqj64i/little_trick_to_find_any_enchantment_you_want_in/
limber knotBOT
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heavy rapids
they should make the trade RNG UUID seeded...
then the same villager won't yield different trades
strange bane
or just store them.
void void
storing UUID that works as "enchantment seed" in that case is cheaper memory wise than storing enchantment itself
limber knotBOT
"Nah, it's 2 am here at the moment and 1850's in Alabama. Time zones are crazy!"
void void
if we're in the future here in australia how come it takes me hours to download anything
upper flicker
Everything balanced
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everything's balanced if ur z
one braincell in the left side of his head, one braincell in the right side
ionic wolf
๐ Mojang
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btw z i see you haven't backported that
do u want me to do it
the timings palette changes*
void void
would downgrading from 1.14 to 1.13 break the world
amber tinsel
I heard it did.
void void
or would there just be a couple of weird untextured blocks
amber tinsel
But someone else prob know it more then me.
limber knotBOT
dont downgrade, there is no reason, it will also break stuff
upper flicker
afaik it doesnโt actually fix anything
So not really
re: timings
Downgrades will break the world
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rip
placid thicket
@void void downgrading from 1.14 will cause irreversible and complete loss of the entire world
placid thicket
Who backs up anymore? That takes too much time
rose pier
Pls
fresh ermine
ended up getting a script to convert commandbook warps to essentialsX ๐
had to dig a lot
lyric osprey
fresh ermine
i feel like i am the only person in the world who was using commandbook up until 1.12 lmao, even the dev said hes surprised anyone uses it I think lol
in other news updating to 1.13.2 broke a lot of things so thats fun ๐
pulsar wigeon
someone PR'd some updates
fresh ermine
wtf
pulsar wigeon
KennyTV i think
fresh ermine
for real
fresh ermine
ahh i see
I would 100% still use commandbook if i had the option too
world-edit broke on my server with 1.13.2 though, giving me low memory errors even though I have more than enough ram dedicated to my server, and it was working fine on 1.12.2, trying to find out if its a FAWE thing first tho
golden gust
||You guys just need faster servers||
errant mantle
unreal quarry
GoT is over! :(
golden gust
Maybe I'll finish the first ep by the end of the year ๐ผ
unreal quarry
I don't like how it ended
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until the next season?
unreal quarry
in lighter news, i just learned that pillager outposts endlessly keep spawning pillagers
golden gust
niiice
Wait, are those the assholish ones?
REmember on my sp world I was pretty close to one of their outposts
Remember being annoyed that I burned the place down and they still spawned
unreal quarry
wife went afk near one to go watch GoT with me. comes back to this http://prntscr.com/nqqngr
golden gust
oh god
cobalt surge
heres another view http://prntscr.com/nqqnp3
static badge
put one of those on brian's house
unreal quarry
rate limits
wait until tomorrow and try again
they rate limit things like that to prevent bots from making "animated" things
cobalt surge
oh look I found more... lol http://prntscr.com/nqqo79
pulsar wigeon
i feel like there's an issue that mobs with "picked up" items don't despawn but those crossbows aren't marked as natural or some insanely silly oversight like that
like tf is even going on there
limber knotBOT
wut is "self bot"
austere ivy
Pardon the messy code, am currently testing something:
How on EARTH is that method changing private variables
acoustic basin
What can better discord do
golden gust
They're private to the class
So, it can access them as it's the same type of class
And Discord bans self-bots and all that stuff
Because, you know
golden gust
God forbid somebody makes something better than the shit they offer
austere ivy
o
oh that makes sense
but it's static?
I can't do this.(blagh) because it's static
golden gust
General gist is that "self bot" basically includes modified clients, anything accesssing the api, etc...
austere ivy
Okay I get it
golden gust
Yea, please refrain from doing that
acoustic basin
^
void void
ok sorry
golden gust
it just gets annoying
acoustic basin
Atlest go to off topic
void void
i wuld not use self bot in this server i
acoustic basin
Letโs move to off topic guys
void void
is it ok
austere ivy
Off topic?
golden gust
off topic
austere ivy
void void
xD
acoustic basin
Iโm idot
austere ivy
You just told him to move here ๐
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brian baits people part 40
acoustic basin
:1
Goto 1
acoustic basin
Yes
acoustic basin
Prefronces
golden gust
That font just looks like it's tryna be too clean
austere ivy
๐
golden gust
I apparently closed IJ, pretty sure I was using menlo
austere ivy
You're a pretty cool tweeter <3
Also isn't menlo the default?
I don't recall changing my font..
stiff yarrow
I'm using firacoda or whatever
golden gust
Yea, I pretty much literally never change stuff
austere ivy
Wow fira coda is cool.
Whoa you can change fonts, which is fancy.
That seems like such a basic thing but at the same time I never realized I needed it.
How's this looking?
limber knotBOT
is getting out the ban hammer! โฌโฌโฌโฌโฌโฌโฌโ รโญโฎร
safe tide
Yall mind helping figure out how to update my language file https://github.com/Qballl/StaffPlus/blob/master/StaffPlusCore/src/main/java/net/shortninja/staffplus/server/data/file/LanguageFile.java
this does nothing
austere ivy
My sister's dyslexic and she says that words get flipped and turned around.
What???
Lots of fonts, like p is a backwards q, they reuse stuff like that.
So since each comic sans character is unique, some people have said it's helped.
SHE CAN'T READ COMIC SANS!?
huh
Fancy Programmersโข
golden gust
Did you restart pycharm?
acoustic pilot
Monaco was the primary Apple monospace font before Menlo, also pretty good
acoustic pilot
Consolas is on Windows and is very good
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merry talon
you can change font weights you know
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filthy mac users
golden gust
How did you install it?
golden gust
Menlo shows up for me in IJ and is selected
acoustic pilot
Menlo ships with Mac OS by default, but it's been a few years so I don't remember.