Yes
#general
wind mauve
I want to store the dank memes on PC but be able to add new ones or access them from phone
#FirstWorldProblems
limber knotBOT
onedrive
golden gust
Google drive, etc?
austere ivy
how come Leaf gets a purple name, Princess gets a pink name
and I don't get an orange name >:(
limber knotBOT
can access PC files directly if you desire
wind mauve
But GDrive doesn't store to PC
austere ivy
(or a blue name I'm not picky :)
golden gust
it does
wind mauve
I don't want google seeing the dankness
limber knotBOT
ya just onedrive
golden gust
It doesn't store to phone, however
wind mauve
I oculd've sworn some file explorers allow nextwork access on android but the user login stuff wont work
limber knotBOT
onedrive
golden gust
Look for something that supports samba
wind mauve
Samba bus?
limber knotBOT
You can access PC files directly
limber knotBOT
they call it "fetch" or something
golden gust
if you're using something like a ms account to login, might need to use your actual email address to connect
unreal quarry
you gonna open smb to the wan? ๐ฎ
limber knotBOT
so what is the ETA on stuff?
wind mauve
.eta
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
golden gust
o no
limber knotBOT
one can not feed GoblinSlayer to Goblinsa
versed fractal
cosmic raft
Hm.
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
fickle dawn
earnest tapir
stiff yarrow
if anyone else wants a 1.14 compatible crazy crates https://github.com/nossr50/Crazy-Crates/releases/tag/1.8.7-SNAPSHOT
placid forum
anyone know a general player count i can sustain with 4c8t 32 gb ram server?
just recently got into minecraft and had a server laying around so i thought why not
stiff yarrow
really depends on the plugins, your MC version, your server settings, etc
placid forum
ah figured is there any guide other than paper docs on getting started with performance optimization?
golden gust
.optimize
limber knotBOT
Guide for optimizing performance: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/guide-server-optimizationโก.283181/
placid forum
great thanks!
stiff yarrow
also your single threaded performance is a big factor
so check out single threaded benchmarks for your cpu
placid forum
its a 4790K so i think im generally fine there
leftover server from when i was hosting a large discord bot
stiff yarrow
yeah it should be fine
I mean it really depends on a lot of factors
just follow that optimization guide and pray for the best
orchid pelican
What about an Intel Core i5 4460
with 8gb of ram. (currently sitting in my closet)
limber knotBOT
mine dogecoin
hot gorge
Probably good for ten players at least
stiff yarrow
that's just robo being a shitter on irc
I bought 50 dollars worth of doge coin and sold it for 400~ when bitcoin peaked
placid forum
damn nice
orchid pelican
thats honestly godlike
placid forum
aw thought it was some cool markov chain or something
orchid pelican
is there asic dogecoin miners
limber knotBOT
ya avoid nossr
orchid pelican
avoid RoboMWM
you name is so familiar
what plugins do you maintain?
ah spigot gp thats where it was
orchid pelican
si
placid forum
cause wasnt parallel gc new for j11
limber knotBOT
ya rate it 5 stars pls
stiff yarrow
@orchid pelican its familiar because once a day he says 'dumcordians IRC guys amirite'
placid forum
ill have you know it's an insult to dumb people to call me dumb
i have an iq of 2.3
limber knotBOT
u can be not a dumcordian 2day!!
orchid pelican
dam you have 10x the iq of me
placid forum
there was this time i owed someone a quarter but i big brained them and only gave them 3 dimes!!!
limber knotBOT
acting like clunky chat software that was only ever good for XDCC pirating in the 90s is still relevant
orchid pelican
you should have just given them 80 penies
limber knotBOT
ur client must mega sux if u think it's clunky
cosmic raft
@muted niche has me doing his dirty laundry, just compiled ghidra
that was a fun experience
:P
orchid pelican
ghidra looks cool
limber knotBOT
orchid pelican
dont know if i trust the precompiled version
void void
mfw article about google location history again, informing people about google tracking your location again, which is included in the ToS of google, and clearly enumerated in their priv settings
cosmic raft
I don't care what they have on me, really. I signed up for the service because it's good
placid forum
makes my life easier
cosmic raft
I don't have anything to hide
void void
afaik, its for your own reference lmao and benefit lmao...
cosmic raft
better search results, etc
void void
like, oh hey u been in this city before cool, heres some recommends
cosmic raft
yup
placid forum
without our data there wouldnt be google maps either
i made a post about it on unpopular opinion and people started hounding me like "oh but what happens if ur password is leaked" and didnt realize they were talking about something completely different
cosmic raft
"oh but what happens if ur password is leaked"
"that's okay i have 2fa"
good luck guessing my google account password though
lol
stiff yarrow
I don't know any of my passwords
placid forum
i was using 25 length alphanumeric and symbol passwords before i learned the existence of password managers
orchid pelican
lastapss knows mine
placid forum
made my life so much easier now that i didnt have to memorize em
its mostly muscle memory at that point
orchid pelican
i legit know 1 password
cosmic raft
@stiff yarrow I know... 6 in my head
orchid pelican
my master and others i have no dam clue
placid forum
i cant login on mobile unless i think about it for like 5 minutes
cosmic raft
desktop boot decryption
desktop root decryption
desktop account password
laptop account password
1Password master password
google account password
all of which are a-zA-Z0-9 + symbols
;D
void void
good to know ๐
cosmic raft
lol
stiff yarrow
I probably have some very old passwords on the internet before I used keepass dunno which websites anymore though
void void
my passwords are ascii art of tacos with slight variations to the toppings
cosmic raft
well, actually, I have 7 passwords
placid forum
i can just create a paper.yml in the same directory right
cosmic raft
the above, plus one shared password I use for temporary accounts
websites that require registration to download or other crap
void void
i personally enjoy the google loc history tho https://puu.sh/DkWZ5/4b13253d08.png
limpid grail
stiff yarrow
I have around 50~ passwords, all managed
cosmic raft
stiff yarrow
cosmic raft
stiff yarrow
oh shit kashike we can meetup and bang 
vestal jasper
Why does spigot have the pagination controls on the bottom of the page but not the top
vestal jasper
they have all of this free space that they could shove it into
cosmic raft
hehe
dusky comet
cosmic raft
Twitter
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) โ@elonmusk (Elon Musk): Tesla is going to develop a quiet, electric leafblower (4 days and 6 hours ago)
cosmic raft
Twitter
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) โ@elonmusk (Elon Musk): Tesla blows haha (4 days and 6 hours ago)
stiff yarrow
shit elon musk has gone out of the closet weeb mode
crystal compass
Yo its 1:25am rn for me and i cant seem to figure out why this simple code isn't working
I will link class in a sec
void void
it's 4:32pm
limber knotBOT
It's 8:32am
void void
cool
limber knotBOT
Cool
void void
rise and grind
limber knotBOT
Let's continue writing useless stuff until Sam actually posts the code
void void
let's do that
cedar spade
it's 7:36
unreal quarry
no, its 1:36
void void
isn't the internet amazing
stiff yarrow
crystal compass
void void
we're all in different parts of the world and can chat instantly
crystal compass
Can yall help a feller
void void
can you be more specific about what doesn't work?
stiff yarrow
whew this is some spaghetti
crystal compass
it checks for a int to run some code, and it works properly, but the problem is when it saves, it should save 1 because the value is 1
but it keeps saving 0
and i am cry
stiff yarrow
which function
crystal compass
ConfigurationSection playersection = this.dataconfig.getConfigurationSection("Players");
for(PlayerData playerdata : this.players){
playersection.set(playerdata.getPlayer().toString() + ".claimed", playerdata.getClaimed());
}
try{
this.dataconfig.save(data);
} catch (IOException e1){
e1.printStackTrace();
}
}```as checked by the code above it, playerdata.getClaimed() is 1; but it keeps saving as 0
stiff yarrow
have you checked it in the debugger
crystal compass
yeah don't know how to use that ๐
void void
have you tried taking it apart piece by piece to figure out what part went wrong?
stiff yarrow
@crystal compass setup the remote debugger in your IDE, and set a breakpoint on the method
step through it
crystal compass
also I know my brackets are cucked as hell, thats just because some of this code I had to copy from my old jar file using jd-gui
lmao
stiff yarrow
vernal moth
Your ide can format your code for you ;)
native thunder
ctrl + alt + l in intellij ๐
void void
you say it saves as zero, you mean in the file it literally has Players: Sam: 0
or what
stiff yarrow
debugger is god, don't waste your time analyzing the code when debugger can just show you right away what mistake you made
native thunder
I dunno. Are you giving getClaimed a value?
This code is....top tier though lmfao
void void
if you're going to debug you might want to disable the spigot watchdog too
native thunder
Oh ya. It'll scream like crazy
void void
so you can spend more than 30 seconds debugging
native thunder
To get past spam filters probably?
Anyone know how it's decided which way you orient when sleeping?
unreal quarry
they really are. because their emails are so stupid only legit fools will fall for them. when one replies or whatever, they know they've got them
void void
๐๐ฎ๐ต๐ต๐ธ ๐ฝ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ผ ๐ฒ๐ผ ๐ต๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ฒ๐ฝ ๐ฎ๐ถ๐ช๐ฒ๐ต
native thunder
Like you specify the head of the best in the packet and does the client just search for the other half of the bed then orient you that way?
I feel like this is something kashike might know
He has all the misc knowledge
stiff yarrow
I contacted a craigslist seller who was renting his place out for a little too cheap and he wanted all this personal info wouldn't meet me in person and a bunch of other shady shit, so I was like yeah nah bro
cosmic raft
what is the question tofuus
native thunder
Anyone know how it's decided which way you orient when sleeping?
unreal quarry
well, idk about you, tofuus, but i like to sleep with my head at the pillow end
cosmic raft
that's based on the bed itself
native thunder
Really? I thought you'd sleep on your motercycle or something
cosmic raft
bed state has the facing property - anything in the horizontal plane is valid
native thunder
Right but in 1.14 you can just set their pose directly
unreal quarry
facing just tells where the pillow end is
native thunder
But I don't see a way to change which way to face
native thunder
I don't have an actual bed placed in the world
I'm sending a Entity Metadata packet to change the player's Pose to sleeping
cosmic raft
if they're not in a bed then it's based on the body rotation of the entity
unreal quarry
if there is none it probably defaults to south or something
warped spear
spigot without paper feels slow as shit
native thunder
Ah sweet thanks
dreamy stone
fallow trail
cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
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cosmic raft
lol
sharp pagoda
cosmic raft
@stiff yarrow yeah, that's a nice monitor
I've got two of these: https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=2W2-000Y-00008
not 4K obviously
split lynx
stiff yarrow
I'll probably order a monitor sometime in the new few weeks
orchid pelican
magical
void void
๐ฝ
cosmic raft
stiff yarrow
its difficult for me to spend large amounts of money on myself
my GPU was dying so I had an excuse for that
orchid pelican
same because i dont have large amounts of money
cosmic raft
well
orchid pelican
my pc was 5 years old so i had a good excuse on my front
cosmic raft
you could accidentally throw a chair at your wall
and then buy a new monitor to cover the hole
stiff yarrow
my mom would not be happy that I destroyed her wall
orchid pelican
oof
cosmic raft
she wouldn't be able to see it
orchid pelican
with that 4k 27 inch oled tv you just ordfered
cosmic raft
exactly
orchid pelican
27 inch tv?
cosmic raft
orchid pelican
is that a thing
stiff yarrow
needs to be a high refresh rate with gsync or I pass
cosmic raft
speaking of chairs
orchid pelican
im running 60hz old ass monitors
cosmic raft
stiff yarrow
high refresh rates are basically the best hings for PCs since SSDs
orchid pelican
legend
stiff yarrow
like you cannot go back
orchid pelican
ye well i cant afford new monitors
cosmic raft
me either
stiff yarrow
do some freelance
cosmic raft
who is lance and why do i need to free them
orchid pelican
becuase i might be able to steal some ground on that front
cosmic raft
why not freenossr50
stiff yarrow
stiff yarrow
very
orchid pelican
for you maybe
unreal quarry
high refresh rates give me headaches
orchid pelican
I legit havnt made a single dollar besides ranks on my server from my plugins
and i dont touch the rank money because thats for server costs
so net profit = 0
unreal quarry
i made money by selling fly (the eula compliant way) ๐
orchid pelican
and hows that?
unreal quarry
1 person buys, everyone gets it
stiff yarrow
@unreal quarry from the googling on your headaches, seems your brain may just need time to get used to it
cosmic raft
how's that work @unreal quarry
orchid pelican
So uh its worth selling premium plugins?
stiff yarrow
very
cosmic raft
yes
unreal quarry
like, i sold fly for $1 for 1 hour. for that 1 hour anyone that logs in and plays has the ability to fly.
void void
A gameplay advantage is eula compliant if the player don't have the advantage, a.k.a everyone gets the fly
unreal quarry
it sold pretty constantly
cosmic raft
interesting idea
stiff yarrow
1 dollar was definitely too cheap
unreal quarry
yeah, but i do this for fun, not a business ๐
in 2-3 days my server costs was paid for
orchid pelican
I made a nice claiming pluin a while back
unreal quarry
all i cared for
stiff yarrow
freelance is way more reliable money tbh
unreal quarry
my day job is more reliable money ^_^
orchid pelican
what type of freelance?
finite wave
Realworld applications
stiff yarrow
in this scene you can easily find plugin freelance work
outside of this scene will depend on your skillset
orchid pelican
Easily? i dont know where to look
orchid pelican
its dead
orchid pelican
1 post every like week
stiff yarrow
orchid pelican
and theres 30 applicants every dam time
void void
orchid loom
void void
getting lazy these days tho...
finite wave
Be a great applicant then.
unreal quarry
you could always apply to work for mineplex
orchid pelican
you gotta be the first one though
unreal quarry
they start at like $30/hr for jr devs
orchid pelican
or first few
orchid pelican
die
hollow igloo
finite wave
@orchid pelican You donโt have to be the first one if your portfolio is better than the others.
void void
When you see how most of the people on spigotmc writes code I don't even know how they get hired by servers ๐ ๐ ๐
orchid pelican
and cant really be open sourced or whatever
stiff yarrow
once you do some freelance work you will network
cant really be open sourced?
sounds like an excuse
orchid pelican
kinda in prod
finite wave
I just hate the spigot community
stiff yarrow
thats an excuse
orchid pelican
how
stiff yarrow
because its not a valid one
you can open source anything even if its not functional yet
orchid pelican
Becuase i dont want some chineese knockoff of my server?
stiff yarrow
๐
you worry too much
you think yourself to be too important tbh if those are your thoughts
you are not some unique butterfly
orchid pelican
I know im not thats why i dont want to oss
stiff yarrow
"oh no someone copied my ideas"
orchid pelican
that specific plugins
finite wave
Iโd bot want to show any of my prod code for my own stuff.
not
Just because itโs usually super shit
stiff yarrow
if your server isn't making you money you have nothing but fake excuses
unreal quarry
open source everything, tbh
orchid pelican
well lets just say i progressed a long way form the start of the plugin to a few years down thbeline
stiff yarrow
^
stiff yarrow
you went a few years without open sourcing anything 
orchid pelican
It is making money it sjust not making me money
unreal quarry
i wouldnt be half as decent as i am today if it wasnt for open sourcing everything and having people critique it
orchid pelican
ye i guess your right
stiff yarrow
if you aren't open sourcing because you legit think someone copying your ideas or code would harm you and you aren't even making money off your own code...
void void
if you're a highschooler that's one reason to open source your things
orchid pelican
ok legit there would be poeple that would compile and create a server
void void
what are you even doing
orchid pelican
because the plugin IS my server
stiff yarrow
basically you're only taking actions that harm your financial interests so far
orchid pelican
it does EVERYTHING
orchid pelican
becuase its not like i have an astonishing playe rbase
cosmic raft
people will write code that does what your plugin is, it's just not as easy
unreal quarry
if someone copies my stuff i feel flattered ^_^
stiff yarrow
you're thinking thoughts that are dumbo thoughts chase
orchid pelican
ok think of it as me owning a server and over time i didnt like any of the plugins that were avalible so i learned java and made them myself
im not that confident in my code
becuase it was created over a time
void void
They're not even worth copying then
orchid pelican
where i wasnt that good at the start
like @stiff yarrow i showed you my claiming plugin once and you said it would be a shame if it wasnt public and low key fucking made my day
and the claiming wasnt even done or funtional at that point lol
stiff yarrow
it had potential
anyways it doesn't matter if your code is shit
open source it anyways
(hint your code is probably embarassing)
but its okay
everyones code is embarassing
until they get better
unreal quarry
everyone is their own worst critic. stop.
stiff yarrow
if you are afraid of criticism you will be hindering your own improvement
learn to delete your ego
golden gust
If you want examples of horrific code, ask kash; He seems to get to see all the good stuff with all the places he lingers
orchid pelican
is it bad i dont see anything inherently wrong with that sample kash
cosmic raft
It may not look bad, but it's extremely hacky
void void
(context: 3rd largest french network back in the days)
cosmic raft
I'll show you the replacement class now
unreal quarry
@orchid pelican you should decompile CoreProtect and have a look at its code. You will feel better about your own.
orchid pelican
I should remake core protect
stiff yarrow
well, lets not tell him stuff like that in case his own code is core protect bad
orchid pelican
woops
stiff yarrow
cosmic raft
@orchid pelican
old: https://paste.gg/p/kashike/333b3124123142b5bc9d0430076d300f
new: https://paste.gg/p/kashike/f1dcdec7201a415c92385c61d05ac2bc
they both do the same thing, but the new one is the proper way
orchid pelican
thats quite a difference there
cosmic raft
yes
The comment on the old one is accurate: This is an extremely ugly method, for extremely bad magic.
stiff yarrow
code almost always can be refactored and improved, especially as you continue to grow @orchid pelican
just post your shitty code
go do freelance and earn money
cosmic raft
chances are it isn't as shitty as you think
some of the code sent here is good
some of the code sent here is a steaming pile of shit
stiff yarrow
its mostly about accepting that its not going to be perfect
void void
why are we pressuring him to open source?
stiff yarrow
well it was one of his excuses for not having a portfolio
void void
I have nothing to drink what to do ?
native thunder
You know what else pays as a highschool student? A part time job
orchid pelican
thats a complicated subject im not getting into
void void
Part time job, that's not able to pay for my cocaine addiction
stiff yarrow
๐
void void
๐
orchid pelican
i would rather type at a computer all day than work a shift at a local mcdonalds
void void
make some open source plugins then if you dont want to open source old stuff
stiff yarrow
he'll just have the same mental block
orchid pelican
What i really need to do is try and split this spaghetti of intangled code into sub modules and release specific ones
cosmic raft
as someone who is at home all the time and works on tonnes of open source and private projects, there are times I'd rather be working at mcdonalds
:p
orchid pelican
no
golden gust
GOD PROJECTS ARE THE ONE TRUE WAY
void void
mcdonalds is sort of ok i guess
cosmic raft
you know, you can release code that doesn't compile without other parts of the code too
it's what lots of people do
void void
@cosmic raft submodules are witchcraft for most people
orchid pelican
I feel bad releasing code that doesnt do shit
orchid pelican
ye eye
void void
your ide can rename it in 1 second
cosmic raft
no, I'm saying that, for example, he could put the menu package and waypoints package on github as small examples
orchid pelican
ik
cosmic raft
if he wanted to
stiff yarrow
yep
void void
gist exists for a reason too
cosmic raft
you don't need to shove everything
orchid pelican
i could post my like core shit becuase a lot of the packages rel on some core utils
stiff yarrow
chase needs to conquer the following mental demons
- being afraid of criticism
- paranoia about other people stealing his ideas or code
- motivation to improve
void void
orchid pelican
- dont give a shit about this one
- yes
- quite possibly
stiff yarrow
you contradict yourself there
im not that confident in my code
becuase it was created over a time
critisicm is like no big deal because you not ganna make fun of a bigger dude for going to the gym right?
cosmic raft
fun fact
golden gust
I mean, 2 is kinda dumb in that at the point which anybody sees a feature they like, it doesn't matter if they have code or not
void void
fun fact people laugh at skinny people at the gym
stiff yarrow
listen to mr druggy here
golden gust
Half of the premium shit on spigot could be programmed on a week or two by people on here, code isn't hardโข
void void
ye
cosmic raft
hmm
void void
listen to me like the old granpa dying in a few weeks
cosmic raft
@orchid pelican are you german
void void
๐คฃ
cosmic raft
knew it
golden gust
Drugs are bad, m'kay
orchid pelican
but im borna nd raised in the USA
stiff yarrow
anywyas I've said all that I needed to say in advice to you chase
orchid pelican
How do you know?
stiff yarrow
I got to stop procastinating now and go do work
void void
I'll write my mafinesto against python developers
stiff yarrow
๐
cosmic raft
I could tell you were at least part german from your code
golden gust
I'm supposed to be sleeping
orchid pelican
@stiff yarrow thanks hehe
golden gust
System?
cosmic raft
Every single project I've seen by people in germany have the word 'System' at the end
golden gust
lol
cosmic raft
menusystem package in your code
orchid pelican
do i ahve that
cosmic raft
yes
cosmic raft
@golden gust knows what is up
orchid pelican
cosmic raft
'system' is a dead giveaway :P
orchid pelican
im impressed
golden gust
Pretty sure I remember MiniDigger pointing that one out a good while back lol
wraith oracle
Why would you write Gui in one and GUI in another
golden gust
The germans love the word system, and bungee seems to be a favourite for them
void void
is that the only thing that you see @wraith oracle ?
orchid pelican
because its usually 3 am when i code my most?
wraith oracle
I don't care about anything else
void void
CrashGooey
cosmic raft
@golden gust CLOUD SYSTEM
void void
don't @ me
cosmic raft
@zlprp
golden gust
lol
void void
it's gooey
wraith oracle
that's basically telling people to ping you lol
quasi valley
just use the ipa at this point
orchid pelican
wanna see my deepest darkest code
cosmic raft
sure chase
orchid pelican
void void
unclosed sql stuff grrrr
cosmic raft
oh dear
orchid pelican
why would i clsoe it
cosmic raft
leaks
orchid pelican
seriously?
but i use the same connection everythwere
i just like dont close it ever
is that bad
limber knotBOT
*joins this channel to promote his new fancy cloud System *
finite wave
Big dick digger
limber knotBOT
Use a connection pool
orchid pelican
explain?
golden gust
Those connection objects are not safe to be used across threads, either, btw
orchid pelican
didnt know that
void void
new connection per statement is probably not great either
stiff yarrow
@orchid pelican now if you open sourced your stuff you may have learned this stuff sooner 
golden gust
It basically keeps a pool of connections, you ask for a connection, you get one from the pool, open a new conn, or wait a connection to return to the pool
limber knotBOT
me and leaf are buddies united in our bond of anime
golden gust
Take a look at hikari
void void
is it needed for sqlite though?
cosmic raft
yes
orchid pelican
ok and you see that mess of creating sql statements in that file i pasted?
any better way?
golden gust
I mean, you can get away with a pool, just you'll be stuck consistently opening/closing connections or limiting yourself to a queue if you wanna do it without; sqlite is also fun, not too sure how well it would cope in an environment with lots of writes
*without a pool
orchid pelican
I cache everything into memory that gets accesed a lot and writes are like few and far between in the terms of reads
void void
looks like its compiled thread safe
orchid pelican
also is there like an easy way to do async db calls?
quasi valley
make them in an async thread ๐
orchid pelican
umm
orchid pelican
that thing looks scary
golden gust
TaskChain is nice, lets you write async flows nicely vs nesting
finite wave
Then donโt complain moron.
placid forum
so i followed all the performance optimizations in that forum thread
are there any plugins to reducing memory usage for players etc
orchid pelican
I dont think thats possible
placid forum
ah so i guess it was just tied in general to the optimization settings
like view distance etc
orchid pelican
yes view distance would affect the payers consumed memory i guess? beacuse less chunks are stored in memory
placid forum
rn waiting on worldborder to finish filling those chunks
orchid pelican
what ver?
placid forum
1.9.0
orchid pelican
get off the horse and onto the rocket ship man
placid forum
er can you elaborate
orchid pelican
why 1.9?
orchid pelican
haha what server verions
placid forum
oh yea 1.13.2
orchid pelican
that makes more sense
gleaming mason
wise owl
dense wigeon
finite wave
limber knotBOT
lol which discord is that
finite wave
Aikars
limber knotBOT
discord invite link pls
gloomy warren
unborn nebula
serene valve
finite wave
@gloomy warren Yeah already posted it haha
spiral garden
do you want to see a thingโข
void void
do you have to code with him or is it just a general discord also
gloomy warren
you have to give him 2 lines per day. No - it's just a discord for his projects like acf, db etc.
void void
alright i'll think about it
unreal quarry
when he live streams coding the chats are bridged
void void
thanks for the invite though
finite wave
You can just join #aikar on irc
void void
its like discord but only text
void void
eh
finite wave
Just donโt use CLI clients
void void
you're talking about clients that can show link previews and such?
finite wave
Yes
low meteor
still thorn
void void
quasi valley
holy moly https://kennytv.eu/files/zkkv2.png
swift totem
charred osprey
nova juniper
tropic flame
nova juniper
alright can someone explain to me why i can't join a server that uses paper or spigot
tropic flame
We don't know, tell us more about it
fluid dagger
nova juniper
well the servers im trying to join are on 1.13 so I imagine the obvious reason is that the servers aren't updated to the current version of mc because I'm on 1.14, so if I wanted to join these servers would I have to go to a past version of mc?
unreal quarry
@nova juniper thats exactly what the profiles in your launcher are for. you can pick and choose at will which version of the game you want to launch. ๐
nova juniper
Oh I see, thanks. I've just come back to MC after a couple years so there's quite a bit of new stuff I'm getting around to
signal ermine
rocky cove
signal ermine
Maybe this question got asked alot, but is 1.14 to be released soon? ๐
rocky cove
.eta
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
signal ermine
๐ญ
tardy lynx
It needs a lot of work lol
void void
[1:11 PM] MrIvanPlays: it was not his code
[1:11 PM] MrIvanPlays: i found it on google
[1:11 PM] MrIvanPlays: i swear
til everything what you can find on google is freely useable
finite wave
Yes
@void void Stop making code that shows on google
So that stacktraces are great
grave crow
finite wave
Find anything?
limber knotBOT
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finite wave
Why would you even
finite wave
So on TPH someone wanted to obfuscate the methods but not the method name.
Because he didnโt trust his coworkers
limber knotBOT
filthy peasants, i always obfuscate my html
finite wave
qwe??
void void
i mean write your shit with react or something and obfuscate js
limber knotBOT
nah thats pussy shit
void void
no u
limber knotBOT
its all about protecting html
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what happened
merry talon
cloudflare made a tweet
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screenshot?
merry talon
limber knotBOT
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void void
basically people are shitting on cloudflare for simply doing their job - proxying web
static badge
interesting
void void
cloudflare is not supposed to silence politics
merry talon
that tweet is about basically nothing at all so they're just taunting those nutheads
I love it
void void
ye lol
vital valley
flint scaffold
void void
fuck i hate social media
mossy wolf
void void
bunch of retards getting together to form mob mentality powered ultra retard fuel
spiral garden
cloudflare is in a really shitty situation
if they do nothing, people hate them for "hosting white supremacists"
if they shut them down, then the freedom of speech idiots will come about
tropic pecan
spiral garden
^
void void
i swear to god
spiral garden
the complaint is that they mask the real server IPs
but honestly that's their job
otherwise their service would be close to useless
untold hamlet
brittle aspen
merry talon
it's not like it would make any difference if their origin was exposed
probably better to spend time figuring out how to fight actual terrorism instead of whining over people saying things you dont like on some forum
remote talon
stiff yarrow
I'm so tempted to pull the trigger on getting a 2nd monitor
living in a 1 monitor hell
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mfw you don't have 2
red halo
lol
red halo
sad
stiff yarrow
just ordered it 
fervent ferry
void void
pseudo island
I agree. Thereโs people trying to use CloudFlare as a political censorship tool...
fallen fable
cobalt cloak
fallen oracle
tiny kettle
void void
native thunder
Open an issue
plucky sinew
bronze token
lean falcon
void void
quasi valley
no 
static badge
trynna capitalize on the people joining waiting for the 1.14 update?
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french
lean falcon
I'll b honest I dunno what the update is
Well if you do, DM me and I'll send and invite
quasi valley
sacrebleu
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tbh should just ban
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: >
pulsar wigeon
for once i agree with leaf
lean falcon
TALK ABOUT JUMPING THE GUN
quasi valley
jump in front of it 
pulsar wigeon
someone who joins just to self-advertise will contribute absolutely nothing to the wonderful community we have here
unreal quarry
i never went to the moderator training seminar. idk whats a bannable offense or not lol
native thunder
"wonderful community"
pulsar wigeon
i'd rather not have that kind of person befuddling our sense of community and friendship
shut up retard :^)
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memes a bit
native thunder
"sense of community and friendship"
pulsar wigeon
cofnimernd
cedar spade
no u
static badge
wiz is retarded wtf are you talking about
native thunder
We rank friendliness by how often they call people retarded
pulsar wigeon
LUL
cedar spade
leaf makes up over 35% of messages here that include the word "retarded"
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true facts
lean falcon
I DIDN'T JOIN JUST TO SELF PROMO
unreal quarry
oh no he's yelling now... where did I put that duct tape
lean falcon
I ACTUALLY WANTED TO BE IN THIS SERVER AND THEN REALISED IT'S THE BIGGEST SERVER IM IN SO WHY NOT SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I SELF PROMO
pulsar wigeon
jesus
lean falcon
APPARENTLY BAD STUFF
unreal quarry
๐ฎ
native thunder
pulsar wigeon
you know what they say billy
quasi valley
eat some chips
cedar spade
๐ฆ ๐ผ
pulsar wigeon
silence is golden, but duct tape and a wrench are silver
native thunder
unreal quarry
couldnt find the tape, so i used the boot
native thunder
You can borrow mine
lean falcon
quasi valley
oh no
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quasi valley
your account?
cedar spade
It's almost like they were prepared for a kick
quasi valley
pulsar wigeon
his server, hopefully
lean falcon
It's gone anyway
lean falcon
I didn't expect anyone to join I just wanted to see what would happen
quasi valley
that's a bad excuse
unreal quarry
i'm gonna try that excuse next time a cop stops me
"just wanted to see what would happen"
^_^
quasi valley
"sure thing, sorry to have bothered you"
void void
hello guys
unreal quarry
\o/
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I think he's succeeded
static badge
it's bait some dumbass staff into talking about it more than was needed :>
get more of that sick advertising it
: >
golden gust
Sometimes I feel that the api-version stuff creates more issues than it actually solves in the long run
cedar spade
"I didn't expect him to get hurt, I just wanted to see what would happen if I put a bullet through his head"
unreal quarry
agreed @golden gust
we should rip out the compat layer
(we as in you guys, of course. i'll just sit back and watch)
unreal quarry
thats not a dog.. its a snowball
quasi valley
ex de
quasi valley
I've ascended to using "xb"
quasi valley
okay I think I forgot something in the oven gotta go
void void
With great power comes great responsibility
cedar spade
I mean, I don't think it solved any problems except keeping a subset of old plugins alive
pulsar wigeon
because pineapple pizza is delicious
cedar spade
Is there any official documentation from Spigot on api-version enforcement now? There wasn't last time I checked
cedar spade
You can't use api-version: 1.14 plugins on 1.13 from what I've heard
void void
what about some apple pizza 7w7
pulsar wigeon
what does api-version: 1.14 even do?
void void
grrr
cedar spade
Disable the legacy material compatibility layer
pulsar wigeon
afaik there isn't another compat layer for 1.14 -> 1.13?
cedar spade
There isn't, you're correct
pulsar wigeon
i mean, what's the difference between 1.13 and 1.14 api version
Material.SIGN just gonna be NoSuchFieldError ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
etc
void void
the floor is lava, just that
I do not understand anything so...
Java 8 -OpenJ9 is cool huh?
cedar spade
If you set it to 1.14, to my knowledge your plugin will load in 1.12 but not 1.13
golden gust
1.12 isn't "api-version" aware, it just doesn't care
1.13 won't load a plugin marked with an api version it doesn't know
pulsar wigeon
ooo
quasi valley
wot
pulsar wigeon
that's retarded
actually
so everyone is just gonna keep api-version: 1.13 forever
because it doesn't make a difference now
void void
How do you type like that xd
static badge
probably what's going to happen
quasi valley
imagine a simple help message plugin not loading because md thinks he's funny
static badge
I mean if you use 1.14 api you'll probably just add it in cuz why not
and if you don't you just wont
cedar spade
But there are so few additions in 1.14, all I can think of is the new materials and Registry
pulsar wigeon
having api-version at 13 doesn't restrict you from using 1.14 api
static badge
yeah if it did that'd be nice but really you'd just use the 1.13 jar
still dumb though
stiff yarrow
the api check just disables the plugin which is kind of funny to me
void void
dusk wadi
tacit fern
implying there was ever a chat worthy of being called a party
dusk wadi
Yea it should say Party's Started! 
austere ivy
hey guys.
tacit fern
PaperMC discord isn't the best place to party, not gonna lie... Unless you plan on making a party in Minecraft... using command blocks or something
dusk wadi
Hi TehBrian ๐
stable oriole
๐ Hello peeps
tacit fern
Hey there
austere ivy
๐
void void
I'm alive
tacit fern
โ woah
void void
๐ญ
raven surge
cedar spade
implying we had pylons
limber knotBOT
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upper flicker
@stiff yarrow your pepes do not appear to be in compliance with ADA standards
please cease using them immediately
stiff yarrow
.g ADA
limber knotBOT
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stiff yarrow
upper flicker
of course that exists
vestal jasper
vagrant flower
silver relic
thorn fog
wide chasm
Well, seeing as you have to run BuildTools to get the Spigot jar, while with Paper you can just download Paperclip and run that, Paper is faster.
silver relic
Since paper wasn't 1.14 i downloaded from a getbukkit website
but it doesn't seem to work
it keeps telling me i am 20000 ticks behind
golden gust
There is no 1.14 paper
golden gust
Well, it's coming into fruition slowly, but Paper is pretty much geared towards making Spigot fast
Saying that, 1.14 is another ball game of waiting for a .1 to fix major issues
silver relic
When i use paper 1.13.2 with 1G ram it seems perfectly fine. but i just used spigot 1.14 and it keeps saying Can't keep up! Is the server overloaded? Running 6894ms or 137 ticks behind
Why did that never happen with paper 1.13.2
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1.14 has a lotta issues apparently
silver relic
if its the same ram