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stiff yarrow
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Mojang: lets release a buggy beta we have merchandise riding on this

void void
upper flicker
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"if its the same ram"

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has nothing at all,

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to do with it

wide chasm
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Minecraft Dungeons is a new game developed by Mojang which was revelead at Minecon Earth

golden gust
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Also, I'm guessing that spigot just isn't disabling that message on 1.14 now

silver relic
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People just tell me to increase ram or lower render distance in game, but they don't tell me why i never had to do that in 1.13.2

golden gust
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Pretty sure that that message was disabled on spigot

silver relic
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it affects eating and using things in game

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Which never happened 1.13.2

upper flicker
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1.14 is very new and has lots of issues

golden gust
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(On spigot, you will pretty much always get tps loss spikes from stuff such as world saving as they made it 100% incremental)

upper flicker
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it hasnt had time to be optimized by anyone not even mojang

golden gust
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I mean, not incremental

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But like, one sweep

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am tired

upper flicker
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when you're on the bleeding edge of a major update you have to expect these things

stiff yarrow
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I'm sure 1.13 was probably a jank mess at launch too

upper flicker
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which is why no one is recommending you use it anywhere

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and putting big warnings on releases

silver relic
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How long before 1.14 Paper?

golden gust
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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

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upper flicker
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everytime someone asks we kill a puppy

silver relic
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Oh

upper flicker
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and you probably wont want to use the first few releases anyway

golden gust
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Spigot has been working on 1.14 for months through the pre-releases, etc; We only got it when mojang dropped it

upper flicker
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because again, bleeding edge, super new, etc etc things Ive already said

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yeah we've gotta lot to do after it even compiles

golden gust
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And 1.14 itself has so many large bugs that I consider anybody running it clinically insane

silver relic
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So when can i play mc with my mate in 1.14? I don't own a full server

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without lagging issues

void void
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Hi, you think that my server can getting out of memory errors cuz of instability of 1.14? : d [using spigot]

upper flicker
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thats just a different eta youre asking for

golden gust
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We can't provide any form of ETA

upper flicker
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so now Im killing a puppy

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and feeding the goblins

silver relic
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What is eta

golden gust
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Mojang needs to release at least .1 before we can even consider marking anything as being stable

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we can provide an ETA if you build us a time machine to travel in

vestal jasper
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Estimated time of arrival

silver relic
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Oh

void void
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So it can be? :v cuz idk I'm stupid or smth

silver relic
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Can you give me an extremely rough estimate? This year? next month?

upper flicker
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no

void void
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I bet this year

upper flicker
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itll be ready when its ready

wide chasm
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Between now and never

upper flicker
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if you want more than that, pick a random number and move on

silver relic
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7

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we can say it'll be here between now and 15 years

void void
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7 years xd

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It isn't normal that a server uses 3 GB ram for 6 players... waiting for 1.14.1 :' (

stiff yarrow
vestal jasper
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Leafs a furry

silver relic
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My server won't run 1Gb ram for 2 players 😦

void void
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xD nice

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mfw

void void
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so it's not my fault that 3 GB is not enough

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;v

stiff yarrow
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I visualized your avatar so you can experience my suffering spotted

hard lake
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there is furries and furries in denial

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No humans

vestal jasper
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He's definitely in denial peepoJuice

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not a furry 😠

vestal jasper
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See?

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He's in denial

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ur a filthy weeb

stiff yarrow
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idk you seem pretty weeb with the cartoon avatar

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nossr ur literally a weeb shutup

stiff yarrow
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yeah but I'm an open weeb

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you're in the closet

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filthy weeb

stiff yarrow
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how can you say that to me when we watched isekai over skype

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.g isekai

limber knotBOT
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acoustic pilot
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damn, exposed

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ur literally half weeaboo

dusty quiver
acoustic pilot
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hey im not hiding it

stiff yarrow
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hanbun weeb PogU

strange sky
hasty jasper
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h

limber knotBOT
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i

hasty jasper
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clap emoji

limber knotBOT
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👏

obsidian lake
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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

fickle nova
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So what exactly does Paper change to be faster than Spigot? I left the server scene in late 2012 so have 7 years of catching up to do. I read it finally implements some functions async? feel free to speak CS to me.

void void
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chunk loading is async

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tons more settings

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loads of small optimisations

crystal compass
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So when shutting down my server it saves and disables everything, but then it just stops at the same plugin every time, but its my rtp plugin, doesn't make sense to me. I can't seem to get any errors out of it either, it eventually will just say "forced shutdown via terminating signal"

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any ideas anyone?

fickle nova
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one plugin being naughty

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stuck doing something, try killing the rtp plugin and whatever is after it in the load order

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@void void Is lighting async?

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Or chunk generation (this is the big one)

void void
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chunk gen is

golden gust
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We have like 400 server patches aimed at general performance improvements and adding additional features/api, entity activation ranges in spigot is one of their major gains, and was made my Aikar

fickle nova
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is there an itemized list of improvements somewhere? Why didn’t they just PR their changes into Spigot? it was the new hotness in 2012

golden gust
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Async chunk loading was existent in CB prior to 1.13, paper brought it back and made it more powerful too, we also kinda got mojang to make some changes in 1.14 which should hopefully lead to async chunk loading working down the road in vanilla, no idea what their progress is in 1.14 exactly

fickle nova
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Cool. Why did they fork instead of PRing these patches into Spigot?

golden gust
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Politics, basically

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I wasn't here at the time, but overall gist is that Paper is a fork so that it can make the changes it wants without having to deal with the politics of upstream

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e.g. timings v2 uses java 8 features, yet, upstream won't allow the usage of java 8 features

fickle nova
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Looking at Spigot it looks like there are no politics now... only md_5

void void
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exactly

golden gust
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Well, yea... That's pretty much part of the entire issue

strange bane
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Spigot don't support Java 8 features?!

golden gust
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Spigot won't accept PRs which use java 8 features

void void
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that's so retarded, provided that minecraft itself requires java 8 since... 1.12?

strange bane
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What is the point of Spigot being Java 7 compatible? Java 7 isn't even supported anymore.

golden gust
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I think they might have become more open with the server itself switching to 8, but API land is stuff at 7, and only because there was a new java API which made something nicer to add

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*stuck at 7

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can't wait till 11

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inb4 var everywhere monkaS

void void
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oy vey

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no

cosmic raft
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var can fuck off :p

strange bane
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Should've been called let

void void
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let's make a proposal to add let, var and const into java lol

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invites more js developers to do java

cosmic raft
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const is already a keyword, half way there

golden gust
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How else is Kash going to show off his unwieldy generics?!

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golden gust
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😛

cosmic raft
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public final class BlockContentTypeLoader extends MultiTypeContentLoader<BlockGenre, ContentBlock, ContentBlock.Builder<ContentBlock, BlockStateDefinition, BlockStateDefinition.Builder<BlockStateDefinition>>, BlockContentProcessor<ContentBlock, ContentBlock.Builder<ContentBlock, BlockStateDefinition, BlockStateDefinition.Builder<BlockStateDefinition>>, BlockStateDefinition, BlockStateDefinition.Builder<BlockStateDefinition>>> implements Witness, MultiTypeContentLoader.Translated<BlockGenre> {

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public abstract class MultiTypeContentLoader<T extends Enum<T> & ContentType.MultiType<C, B>, C extends CatalogedContent, B extends ContentBuilder<C>, P extends ConfigProcessor<B>> extends ContentLoaderImpl<C, B, MultiTypeContentLoader.Entry<T, C, B>> implements MultiTypeExternalContentProcessor<T, C, B> {

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why

fickle nova
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Since Paper seems to be the new hotness why are the forums so quiet?

cosmic raft
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you know you love it @golden gust

pulsar wigeon
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reminds me of Sponge's Data API

golden gust
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We have a discord

void void
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jesus delet this generics hell

golden gust
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The forums are there as a supplement, but it's not really our main area

fickle nova
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Discord isn’t conducive to searchers from the future looking for solutions to weird errors

strange bane
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Discord search is great imo.

cosmic raft
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its ok @void void

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the new version is better

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public final class BlockLoader extends RootContentLoaderImpl<BlockType.Child, ContentBlockBuilder<?, ?, ?>> implements Listener {

upper flicker
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discord search is garbage

void void
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STOP

upper flicker
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but the forums exist for those that want to use it

fickle nova
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it also doesn’t show up on google

strange bane
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I've never not found what I've been looking for on Discord.

upper flicker
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I dont, most of us dont

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but peopel wanted them so they exist

void void
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ok don't, it's better peepoLove

cosmic raft
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discord search has always worked for me

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z people wanted forums

strange bane
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It doesn't match partial words which is slightly annoying but it's 100% usable.

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but the second u introduced whatever that other forums were DansGame

upper flicker
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people are always going to complain

void void
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if discord search is that crap then one could theoretically harvest irc and then feed it to elasticsearch or something thonk

upper flicker
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when its about something stupid like forums, ive already tuned out

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:>

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) @_kashike (kashike): dear @github, please allow me to search forks. it's nearly 2015. (4 years and 4 months ago)

void void
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boo, embed links not working in ripcord

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F

cosmic raft
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I wrapped them in <>

void void
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yeah

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i see them wrapped between <>

strange bane
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GitHub search genuinely does suck.

cosmic raft
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yes

strange bane
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Especially for Java.

void void
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a lot

golden gust
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I do try to check the forums once a day, but that doesn't always go to plan; As much as discord isn't as searchable, where are you going to ask, the place people look once a day, or on a chat with a few dozen people in there?

void void
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i always end up cloning the repo and grepping through it

cosmic raft
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same mikro

void void
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grep -r ftw

strange bane
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I open it in IntelliJ. 😛

pulsar wigeon
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wtf is this

cosmic raft
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what is what

pulsar wigeon
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that last tweet has someone replying saying "use libraries.io" for fork search

cosmic raft
pulsar wigeon
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i tried it out on WE and got two results that haven't been updated in 7 years???

limber knotBOT
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just get stars

cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
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have more stars than parent fork = u get 2 search

strange bane
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That's dumb.

limber knotBOT
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otherwise ur fork not worthy of search

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ur not worthy

limber knotBOT
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.g extrahardmode github

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and same with GP too

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does anyone know of a self-hosted shared to-do list like stuff? Like Microsoft To-Do? I know things like gitlab have issue tracking but wondering if there's something similar out there

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cuz idk how to search for this

pulsar wigeon
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you want an actual issue tracker? or a multiplayer notepad?

limber knotBOT
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more like a todo list with due dates. so no need for full blown issue tracking

pulsar wigeon
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robo - 5/15 - do the thing
bob - 5/7 - do the other thing!

multiplayer notepad? :^)

limber knotBOT
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so I guess like a multiplayer notepad tho I dont know what that is until rn

pulsar wigeon
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it's any online editable text file

limber knotBOT
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if you said onenote, that'd make more sense to me :p

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but ya, more like that.

pulsar wigeon
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is that some 🚮 MS product?

limber knotBOT
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RoboMWM: github issues, gitlab issues, atlassian jira, google keep, microsoft onenote

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self-hosted

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could do a sharepoint with onenote, heh

shell vine
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Text file

limber knotBOT
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we aren't barbarians @shell vine

shell vine
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Pff

limber knotBOT
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microsoft to-do is great just wish I could self-host it and use the app

shell vine
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Lotta ppl use trello

halcyon gulch
limber knotBOT
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dont think u can selfhost that

void void
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there's trello clone

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wekan

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you might be interested in that

limber knotBOT
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ya am looking at it

void void
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last time i tried to integrate it with mattermost i ended up making a PR to mm to fix their dum oauth token length limit

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and then got mattermost cup for contributing

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literally changed 1 line

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i mean cute but then again wot

limber knotBOT
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also wondering since I can login with school/work account in MS to-do app, if it's feasible to setup sharepoint and whatever else to make that work lol

void void
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hmm

meager nimbus
limber knotBOT
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since afaik MS to-do uses the outlook calendar tasks thing

void void
strange bane
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What do you mean by that Robo?

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"uses the outlook calendar tasks thing"?

limber knotBOT
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tasks created in Microsoft To-Do are also populated on the outlook calendar. At least when I used it a few months ago

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in the tasks section

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I guess Microsoft To-Do is meant to replace that interface now

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RoboMWM: sharepoint is satan

strange bane
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OnlyOffice might do what you're after.

lapis cargo
stiff yarrow
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Zenhub is kind of like trello and it integrates into github

orchid pelican
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Does /s mean sarcastic or silent

finite wave
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Silent /s

orchid pelican
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People use it on discord though

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Like twitter you can have a filter for /s

finite wave
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Yes it’s still silent though /s

pulsar wigeon
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yes, because on chat programs you're not speaking out loud, so it's silent /s

orchid pelican
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Like it doesn’t notify ?

covert maple
finite wave
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Nah just a random ass s for silent /s

orchid pelican
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Gotcha

pulsar wigeon
finite wave
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@pulsar wigeon Don’t be so loud /s

stiff yarrow
upper flicker
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mfw furry emotes

finite wave
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Doesn’t surprise me at all

stiff yarrow
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Let my spotted slip out

deep shoal
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how can I access and change players inventories when they're offline

pulsar wigeon
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ask them to log on :^)

finite wave
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It’s saved in world.dat

upper flicker
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its not

pulsar wigeon
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it's not actually

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each player gets their own dat file

finite wave
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Well some dat somewhere*

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Inside the world folder

pulsar wigeon
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i think in single player it's stored in level.dat or something but

upper flicker
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nope

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saved exactly the same

stiff yarrow
finite wave
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Do we tell him what /s really means though

upper flicker
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yes /s

stiff yarrow
deep shoal
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so do I have to read dat files myself

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wish that was in the api

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would be really nice to have inventory ops on OfflinePlayer

finite wave
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Nbt files

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And it’s not really always a safe operation to do sync.

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Slow

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And if they are online nono

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I think it’s fine as it is now.

deep shoal
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so if I want to change an offline player's inventory it's safer to do it async?

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seems weird ot me

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what if they log in partway through

finite wave
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It’s not really safe anyway.

deep shoal
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why

finite wave
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Because it’s stupid

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Just wait for them to log in.

pulsar wigeon
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^

upper flicker
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didnt openinv have a feature to do that?

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maybe they have an API thats friendlier than writing it yourself

finite wave
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Probably still stupid though.

deep shoal
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so what I will do now is just store in some map a player inventory to uuid

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and listen to when player joins

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and then equip the inventory

finite wave
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Eh nah why

deep shoal
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better idea?

finite wave
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What is this?

deep shoal
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I want to change offline player's inventories

finite wave
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So?

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Change how

deep shoal
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the items in it

finite wave
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Change them how

deep shoal
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like

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replace or remove or add items

finite wave
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Like what

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Okay, and you can not just store the information that when the player joins they need those items removed?

upper flicker
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I mean, its not like its that herculean a task to just do it when they're offline

finite wave
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No, true but it’s prone to user error.

upper flicker
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you're just gonna have to make sure you write the file properly and handle any edge cases like the player logging in while youre doing it

deep shoal
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lol what

upper flicker
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so is that horrible solution of queueing it up

deep shoal
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@finite wave that's exactly what I just suggested right?

upper flicker
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its hardly black and white

deep shoal
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I said I'd have a map between uuids and inventories

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and change the inventory when they rejoin

finite wave
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Well, why do you need to do this?

deep shoal
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I just opened the uuid.dat file in NBTExplorer and I don't see where the inventory is being stored

finite wave
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It’s a nbttaglist

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it's under Inventory

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monkaW what's the Brain tag for

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bet z's brain compound is empty

upper flicker
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villager stuff

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all the AI villager stuff is referred to as brain

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yeah I knew that but what's the shit doing in player data

upper flicker
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idk maybe they made it a base tag

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its empty right?

deep shoal
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I don't see inventory

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maybe nbtexplorer reads it incomplete

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it has one compound

void void
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"memories"

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which is empty

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this is 1.13 btw

deep shoal
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this is the first half of what it shows me

upper flicker
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oh

deep shoal
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my server is 1.13.2

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then your inventory is empty

upper flicker
deep shoal
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oh

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lol

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okay might be

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I check other players

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why they have special snowflake code that writes like that idk

deep shoal
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nah I don't see it any of them

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then you're looking in the wrong place

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where are you looking

deep shoal
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world/playerdata/

upper flicker
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or nbtexplorer is more broken than we last thought

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it should be there

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literally go on your server

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spawn items

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log out

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and check your file

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let's make sure the inventory isn't empty

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then we start blaming nbtexplorer

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...
    Fire: -20S
    XpP: 0.7837835F
    EnderItems: []
    DataVersion: 1519
    foodLevel: 20
    foodExhaustionLevel: 3.631682F
    HurtTime: 0S
    SelectedItemSlot: 7
    Inventory: [
        {
            Slot: 0B
            id: "minecraft:rotten_flesh"
            Count: 4B
        },
        {
            Slot: 1B
            id: "minecraft:torch"
            Count: 30B
        },
        {
            Slot: 2B
            id: "minecraft:dirt"
            Count: 6B
        },
        {
            Slot: 3B
            id: "minecraft:iron_shovel"
            Count: 1B
            tag: {
                Damage: 2
            }
        },
...
deep shoal
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I know at least two players have stuff in their inventories

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ok how about this

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do that

deep shoal
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I delete all rn

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paste it here

upper flicker
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dunno what to tell you

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thats where it is

cosmic raft
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all living entities have a Brain

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not just villagers

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except z

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:>

upper flicker
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if I kick you, you lose your purple role

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doesn't change the fact I had it

cosmic raft
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had what

upper flicker
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germany once had poland

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u once had braincells

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there's annoying dumb leaf

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:>

deep shoal
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I don't think NBTExplorer has it

upper flicker
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been a while since he was here

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been here all along

cosmic raft
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been where

fossil adder
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you didn't add my taco role

stiff yarrow
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oh there it is

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is it me or did that get bigger

deep shoal
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I clicked "about nbtexplorer" and now it's hanging

stiff yarrow
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ngl I laugh for about 10 secs straight everytime I see this image

deep shoal
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beautiful program ig

cosmic raft
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discord's fucking gateway is shit, even with reconnection stuff it doesn't reconnect properly

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.g ngl

limber knotBOT
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we all know nbtexplorer is spooky af

cosmic raft
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2019-04-28 21:36:35.887  INFO 15374 --- [  ReadingThread] n.k.l.d.f.role.auto.AutoRoleFeature      : Adding "Spottedleaf#0001" (273258543132442624) to role "no-reactions" (497836299097473039)
2019-04-28 21:36:35.889  INFO 15374 --- [  ReadingThread] n.k.l.d.f.role.auto.AutoRoleFeature      : Adding "Spottedleaf#0001" (273258543132442624) to role "🔥" (505873650067570688)
2019-04-28 21:36:35.892  INFO 15374 --- [  ReadingThread] n.k.l.d.f.role.auto.AutoRoleFeature      : Adding "Spottedleaf#0001" (273258543132442624) to role "dumb-taco-hater" (523797688337039380)
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🔥

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works in wine though so that's nice :>

deep shoal
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idk I never used it much before

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I was just using it on macos

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should I run the windows version through wine instead?

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less buggy somehow?

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that'd be weird lol

pulsar wigeon
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what's wrong with nbtexplorer

upper flicker
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no its equally crap everywhere

deep shoal
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oh

pulsar wigeon
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it's always worked fine for me

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idk what to say to you if inventory isn't there

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it should be

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and we've got code and examples to prove it

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unless some dumb fucking plugin has decided to fuck with your shit

deep shoal
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it's just not there in nbtexplorer

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but I doubt that

upper flicker
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I know nbtexplorer has a tendency to lock up on some files

pulsar wigeon
upper flicker
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not aware of one to just not read it

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and ignore portions of data

pulsar wigeon
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works fine

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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can you take a file you know has inventory and paste it here

pulsar wigeon
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i've never had problems

upper flicker
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its just as shitty as your personality

stiff yarrow
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write a better nbt explorer in D dman

upper flicker
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thats why it works fine for you :>

pulsar wigeon
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oic

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that's good

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explains why it works for u z

pulsar wigeon
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i like software designed for me

upper flicker
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idk

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Ive heard of other people saying the same thing that it works fine

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and then Ive heard lots of others who have nothing but issues

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if it works, good

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afaik just randomly not showing parts of files isnt an issue

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personally I dump it to hex

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and then decode it by hand

pulsar wigeon
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in gzip form of course

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you decompress in your head

upper flicker
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how else would you do it

static badge
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ah gzip form

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that reminds me when wget or curl auto decompressed

upper flicker
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it was wget

static badge
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and u z were confused about why nbtexplorer still handled it fine :>

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did they revert that shit at least

upper flicker
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that wasnt the confusing part

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that was just a point of interest in figuring out they were doing stupid shit

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the confusing part was them doing the stupid shit

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and yeah they disabled it

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afaik its dead or behind a flag

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which is where it belongs

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iirc it was in a release version too :>

upper flicker
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1.19.2 added it, 1.19.3 made it worse, 1.19.4 buried it

static badge
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it gave you ptsd so you remember the versions monkaS

livid echo
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holy shit 1.14 is so awesome

static badge
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any standard way of converting nms DataSource to bukkit DataSource?

stiff yarrow
static badge
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oh wait nevermind I don't need that

pulsar wigeon
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welcome to C#

static badge
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DansGame C#

pulsar wigeon
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visual studio has a lot of fancy designer frontends

stiff yarrow
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oh is this just gui shit then

pulsar wigeon
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i fully expect this PR to sit here for years

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i just built it for myself since i do a lot of work with schematics

stiff yarrow
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he hasn't even updated in a year

upper flicker
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last commit was nov 2017

stiff yarrow
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shits dead

upper flicker
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probably gonna sit forever

stiff yarrow
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2 years

pulsar wigeon
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he's still active tbh

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ripperoni

pulsar wigeon
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on other projects

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just abandoned this one

static badge
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you should rewrite it

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in C

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using vulkan

pulsar wigeon
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you should rewrite it

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in your blood

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and hopefully just die of blood loss

static badge
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wow

upper flicker
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rust has nbt libs, take one of those, make it output in some semisane textual format

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move on with your life

stiff yarrow
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yeah hes active on github and ghosting your PR

static badge
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rust has nbt libs?

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wtf is anyone doing with nbt in rust

upper flicker
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glances at @stiff yarrow 's PR

stiff yarrow
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I'm sure egg is busy with another group project... r-right guys?

static badge
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ur pr is dead m8

upper flicker
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maybe he doesnt like pepes

stiff yarrow
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maybe he liked 8 parameters per method

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and I was ruining his style

limber knotBOT
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Hey Z, what do you like more memes or working?

stiff yarrow
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do you even have to ask

upper flicker
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is that a not so subtle dig I should be working on an update or something?

static badge
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mfw making z's poor 2 braincells perform a decision

limber knotBOT
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hey qwe_, what do you like more: your legs or your arms

upper flicker
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people really are entitled cunts

limber knotBOT
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arms

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thats easy dude

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i cant touch myself with legs

stiff yarrow
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z you are solely responsible for making my p2w minecraft server functional

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my profits

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yeah z where's my 1.14 update

limber knotBOT
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srsly Z

static badge
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I've been sitting in here bitching at you to do it forever

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and yet it still doesn't arrive

upper flicker
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gonna go make plugins on someone else's software so I can just sit back and bitch at them

limber knotBOT
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can we buy Z a pizza?

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or should i say

upper flicker
#

l8r

limber knotBOT
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piZZa?

stiff yarrow
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I tried to doxx his paypal hes hidden it well

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probably his personal email address or something tricky

livid echo
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i dont even care about paper ill just use the jar provided by mojang

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1.14 is so cool

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mfw new form of getting donations

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1.14 has a lot of issues

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wouldn't recommend touching prod with that shit

limber knotBOT
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yeah

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too many raids

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they always get me

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mojang needs to nerf

stiff yarrow
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vanilla server is basically sketch chunk problems

upper flicker
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even if Paper 1.14 was out, probably wouldnt recommend anyone actually use it until .1 drops

limber knotBOT
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thats pussy talk

livid echo
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ill invite my players to my house

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and open to lan

limber knotBOT
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all the pioneers run 1.14

stiff yarrow
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who can crash the server the fastest lan PogU

weak egret
livid echo
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Speedrun Any% Crash a lan minecraft world

stiff yarrow
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first one to walk 10 chunks without an exception gets penalized

shut marten
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currently watching as paper p bursts into flames every 2 seconds... oh well, we didn't need that patch... or any of them for that matter D:

stiff yarrow
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the hell is paper p

limber knotBOT
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guys

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do you want me to ask the question?

static badge
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paper p is ./paper patch

shut marten
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^^

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you're on the 1.14 branch aren't you :>

stiff yarrow
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spotted are you friends with this guy

shut marten
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maybe

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nossr

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u fuk

stiff yarrow
static badge
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ur a filthy weeaboo

shut marten
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welp... Timings just blew up

stiff yarrow
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cracking myself up ngl

static badge
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that was pretty good tbh :>

stiff yarrow
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this new avatar is not a good look

shut marten
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and I don't have apatch ;-;

livid echo
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holy shit

static badge
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reminds me I should be fixing this patch instead of memeing

livid echo
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there are pandas

cosmic raft
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yes

stiff yarrow
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yes

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and they have different faces

shut marten
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what in the world is a .yy file..? >_>

static badge
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shame how they're leaving the real world and entering minecraft

stiff yarrow
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sounds like obfuscation

livid echo
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i legit have never known about pandas

stiff yarrow
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its brand new

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pandas kind of deserve extinction

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they can barely handle eaitng all day

livid echo
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now i regret launching my server on 1.13

limber knotBOT
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how much would you pay to eat a panda?

stiff yarrow
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I wouldn't

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have you ever seen a bear without its fur

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disgusting

livid echo
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more like how much would you pay me to eat the panda

stiff yarrow
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bears are basically giant mole rats

limber knotBOT
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i was forced to eat rats when i was stuck in a sewer for a week

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theyre not so bad

livid echo
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there are raids now

cosmic raft
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cross your fingers

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you're going to be my test @static badge

static badge
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kash

stiff yarrow
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vlad is like a slow read of the 1.14 changelog

static badge
void void
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lul

livid echo
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holy shit there is a loading bar on the mojang logo

static badge
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wtf r u testing me for

livid echo
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this is some next level shit

void void
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animal testing

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ha

cosmic raft
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sorry

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testing big change

stiff yarrow
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I wanna help PogU

static badge
#

😠

stiff yarrow
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let me kick you spotted for science PogU

static badge
#

no

stiff yarrow
livid echo
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aight time to boot up this new version of minecraft

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and test these things out for myself

static badge
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inb4 crashes

stiff yarrow
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well if its on a new world it might be stableish

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then again

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👀

livid echo
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this loading bar is some next level sutff right here

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this is amazing

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HOLY SHIT

stiff yarrow
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how long you been out of the game vlad

livid echo
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THE MENU IS FADING IN

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i didnt want any spoilers

cosmic raft
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hey @static badge

static badge
#

wat

cosmic raft
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👀

static badge
livid echo
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this version of minecraft is amazing i cant tell you lads how much i love this version

static badge
stiff yarrow
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hmm hes not purple anymore

static badge
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what just happened there

cosmic raft
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nothing

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nothing happened

static badge
static badge
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why am I seeing my join message after I've joined

cosmic raft
#

yes

static badge
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are you doing that shit

cosmic raft
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yes, i control discord now

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didn't you hear

static badge
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what has the world come to lul

livid echo
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blast furnace

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owo whats this

limber knotBOT
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grins "(⊙ω⊙)"

livid echo
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this furnace fast as fuck boi

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this new version feels like a modpack

cosmic raft
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@static badge you take four lines each time now

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you greedy person

static badge
livid echo
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we have bells now, i can accurately recreate de_inferno in minecraft

cosmic raft
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ringing the bell makes villagers hide, too

livid echo
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oh my god

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this version

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is the best version since beta1.9

stiff yarrow
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my thoughts on 1.14 is crossbows are fucking broken

cosmic raft
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<insert screeches of the people who won't leave 1.7.10 ever>

livid echo
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wtf

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crossbows look like

stiff yarrow
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you can line up your whole hotbar with crossbows and instagib shit

livid echo
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bows made in china

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how does it work

cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Minecraft 1.14 -Trailer Vs Reality - length 32s - 3,242 likes, 64 dislikes (98.1%) - 34,299 views - MarcusKron on 2019.04.27

livid echo
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crossbow more useless than the r8 in csgo

cosmic raft
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.g r8 csgo

limber knotBOT
#

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livid echo
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) HOW TO USE THE DEAGLE'S STUPID LITTLE BROTHER - length 3m 55s - 48,994 likes, 1,478 dislikes (97.1%) - 2,301,669 views - iNoToRiOuS on 2017.05.20

livid echo
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this video is much better

upper flicker
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I remember when they added the r8

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good times

livid echo
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when they added it it was

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let me tell you it was the best

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but after the nerf

upper flicker
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I havent played csgo in a long time now

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it looks very different

livid echo
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cs is a little cooler now

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not by a lot tho

#

its free and there are cheaters everywhere

fickle nova
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Does Spigot not have async chunks?

upper flicker
#

no

#

there were cheaters everywhere before it was free too

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wonder how much worse thats gotten now LUL

livid echo
#

you dont wanna know

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especially in low trust factor

#

might as well play faceit or esea

static badge
#

ah the r8

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I remember that when it came out

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the pocket awp it was called

livid echo
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pocket awp was gud :)

#

update's amazing 10/10 would slowly read the changelogs again

vestal jasper
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I have a hard time believing that 40-75% of my server tick is going to fish

livid echo
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i mean to be fair the physx on them are like

#

insane

vestal jasper
#

According to the Regions section of timings there aren't even more than like 100 cod total

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There's not even a dropdown for them

livid echo
#

again physics on the fish are insane

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like the ai

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is next gen

queen rapids
#

ur mom is next gen

#

ooo

livid echo
#

ooo

static badge
#

as stated 100000 times before entity timings is broken :>

vestal jasper
#

Time to switch to v1 /s

cosmic raft
livid echo
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i have no idea what that is but im proud of you

#

:)

vestal jasper
#

v1 of timings

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aka downgrading to spigot

livid echo
#

im not proud of you anymore

crystal compass
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Do you guys think it is a good idea to pregenerate my entire 1.14 world?

#

Pretty sure the stupid intense lag im getting is from 40 people loading new chunks

livid echo
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i myself would not generate a 30mil world

limber knotBOT
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pregenerating is a good thing, we always use it on our server for new worlds

cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Actually my name's Marina but its 10 hours - length 10h 10m 17s - 24,229 likes, 360 dislikes (98.5%) - 509,508 views - Not Tia on 2017.12.17

cosmic raft
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enjoy

rich flicker
cursive narwhal
#

Have you guys bought premium slots on Minecraft server lists before?

limber knotBOT
#

(kashike) Dark Season 2 | Date Announcement | Netflix - length 55s - 16,075 likes, 73 dislikes (99.5%) - 436,201 views - Netflix on 2019.04.26

livid echo
woven otter
#

that's a good song by Marina though

void void
worn ember
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@woven otter owo

nocturne plank
woven otter
#

why are you owoing me

worn ember
#

Cuz I can uwu

odd quail
void void
#

ewe

spare mountain
void void
#

will papermc work in 1.14 if you replace every "1.13.2" in the 1.13.2 version with "1.14"?

static badge
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oh yeah it will :>

void void
#

ok

#

drburgermaster says thanks

deep shoal
#

is there a plugin that can fake a player still being online

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even when they quit

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if I want to change offline players' inventories

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is a better solution storing an array of a fake inventory contents and setting it when the player joins

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or editing the nbt files

limber knotBOT
#

i renamed my paper1.13.jar to paper1.14.jar but server is still 113?

upper flicker
#

bug in multicraft

#

closed invalid

unreal quarry
#

25 minutes until GoT s8e3!!! \o/ been waiting 10 years for this one ^_^

pearl ibex
#

@static badge Ur dum.

#

@unreal quarry Me too! \o/

#

I'm so hyped rn. 😅

limber knotBOT
#

ANT MAN DIES AT THE END OF AVENGERS

#

squashed by supreme overord

upper flicker
#

not sure if true or meme

unreal quarry
#

Inb4 everyone dies and the last 3 episodes are just wights walking around aimlessly

pearl ibex
#

Ban him just to make sure. 🤷

limber knotBOT
#

not aimlessly

#

they build a perfect empire

#

of ice

golden gust
#

There are some down sides to not having a scrollback limit set

upper flicker
#

nice

pearl ibex
#

What the hell is that? thonk

#

20.92 GB, ffs.

golden gust
#

My terminal

#

I had unlimited scrollback enabled and ended up with an 800MB log file to go with it too \o/

unreal quarry
#

20gb ram usage on terminal? Inb4 strong Player reference leak

#

runs

golden gust
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DoN'T StoRe PlAYeR REfERenCes

cobalt surge
limber knotBOT
#

.log

#

shh, watching game of thrones

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only dumdums don't cleanup player references

#

but memory leaks psh java supposed to handle my memories garbage man will do it all

bronze vine
fallen oracle
#

Welcome.

bronze vine
#

hallo 😄

wide hazel
#

what does my teacher have against proper exception handling?

#

that's like catching Exception in Java

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not even using the cause

static badge
#

pr or shutup

wide hazel
#

if only

#

this is intro

#

what's a pr

#

what's a git

upper flicker
#

leaf's a git

#

:>

tardy lynx
#

what's a java

wide hazel
#

still not sure on Python as an intro language

#

it does some things very strangely you'll never see elsewhere

static badge
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wtf is that supposed to mean z

tardy lynx
#

Chunk Data packet in 1.14 doesn't have any lighting

static badge
#

how bout u git fukt, git lost, git gud z

tardy lynx
#

So I assume the client calculates the lighting when it recieves the chunk

upper flicker
#

C:\>

limber knotBOT
#

Seperate packet

tardy lynx
#

uh

#

I only send the chunk data packet and lighting looks fine?

limber knotBOT
#

The client might do some stuff itself, no idea

static badge
#

maybe serbur does lighting :>

tardy lynx
#

Why is there a heightmap in the chunk data packet now?

#

Can the client not calculate that?

static badge
#

is there a heightmap? lul

tardy lynx
#

What's it even used for?

limber knotBOT
#

Used for stuff like spawning, lighting calcs, etc

tardy lynx
static badge
#

yeah but that's sent to the client

limber knotBOT
#

The server already needs to calculate it, and I guess it can be used for the client side lighting stuff too

static badge
#

can do it fairly easily client side lul

wide hazel
#

hightmap is used for helping some lighting calcs along

tardy lynx
#

can the client not calculate it tho?

limber knotBOT
#

Probably one of those "why have the client spend time doing stuff we can just send it?"

tardy lynx
#

it's using 300 bytes per chunk

wide hazel
#

could have the client calc it, for sure

tardy lynx
#

But then they made the client calculate lighting

wide hazel
#

not sure why they didn't

tardy lynx
#

and why NBT

wide hazel
#

might be a performance thing, for client-side opts

#

just a guess

tardy lynx
#

why not just a normal long array

static badge
#

we should just send 0 as a server optimization

#

runs

wide hazel
#

lol

#

pipe /dev/zero

tardy lynx
#

what if I set the entire heightmap to 0

static badge
#

try it and see what happens

tardy lynx
#

or 255

static badge
#

better yet inspect the client code handling it

tardy lynx
#

yeah will do when I'm on pc tomorrow

#

If the client calculates all the lighting, then I don't have to code anything

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why non-air block count too

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They make the server calculate the heightmap and non-air block count, then make the client calculate the rest of the lighting

upper flicker
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client is always going to end up doing some of it

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the rest is just impl detail

wide hazel
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I'm not used to it either, but at least I try

upper flicker
#

ah yes, I like parsing regex instead of writing "snake_case"

wide hazel
#

jeebus

static badge
#

snake case is god tier wtf r u talking bout

upper flicker
#

god tier cancer

static badge
#

alright mr "I made the most cancerous fork of spigot ever to exist"

wide hazel
#

I don't like python's lack of consts/finals

upper flicker
#

I didnt make conrete

static badge
#

conrete doesn't exist

#

ur literally insane

#

all in ur head

upper flicker
#

maybe

#

I assume Im insane

wide hazel
upper flicker
#

the alternative is cloudflare cant fucking implement a standard fucking login form

#

"pls refresh" 5x times

#

finally just says "multiple errors"

#

how hard is it CF

wide hazel
#

caching

#

I blame caching

static badge
#

ah caching

wide hazel
#

slash load-balancing

upper flicker
#

so glad I decide to run all my shit through a company that cant fucking sort out logging into their own service

#

makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside

wide hazel
#

heh

#

I put all my sites under them as well

#

pro plans have modsecurity with OAWSP rules in their WAF

#

fucking amazing

upper flicker
#

I give up

#

Ill try tomorrow

static badge
#

z gives up part 5

wide hazel
#

clear cookies/cache @upper flicker ?

upper flicker
#

I dont have any booze to give me the strength

wide hazel
#

life's hard when you run out of booze

#

I don't PR without it 😛

upper flicker
#

makes note to review egg82's previous PRs

static badge
#

egg should review nossr's pr

wide hazel
#

lol

upper flicker
#

poor nossr

wide hazel
#

I code better not-sober 😛

upper flicker
#

has to deal with mcmmo and no one reviewing his PRs

wide hazel
#

😦

#

I will soon

static badge
#

mr optional<boolean> is a tristate

wide hazel
#

I reviewed the shit out of it the first time

#

just tiiiime

upper flicker
#

if he put it in contract the method could return actual null he'd have a quad state too

#

thats just thinking ahead

wide hazel
#

lol

#

I didn't want to throw exceptions in an API

#

apparently that was a mistake

static badge
#

tbh should just use an integer for tristate :>

wide hazel
#

the irony

static badge
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Boolean is a retarded tristate compared to int change my mind

upper flicker
#

the real mistake was linking code in here when we were all bored

wide hazel
#

hah

upper flicker
#

gotta do it when everyone is busy thinksmart

wide hazel
#

while it stings a bit, it's never been a mistake yet 😛

upper flicker
#

ask ten people get ten different responses

#

OH GIVE US TIME EGG :>

wide hazel
#

hahaha

upper flicker
#

browser still clearing data

#

alright maybe related

wide hazel
#

eventually I get over myself and accept that maybe I don't know everything and change it

upper flicker
#

apparently there's just literal jibbabytes of crap in cache or something

wide hazel
#

hah

static badge
#

ah caching

wide hazel
#

there's a reason tier-1 clears cache/cookies as a first/second step

#

shit works

upper flicker
#

at this point I hope its still broken just because I dont want that to be the reason

#

HAH

wide hazel
#

also it's a play for time 😛

#

generally things that are broke server-side get fixed quickly

upper flicker
#

"Multiple errors returned!"

#

thanks CF

wide hazel
#

hahaha

#

well, least your browser will run a little faster, at the cost of losing every session cookie you had

upper flicker
#

so many sessions lost

#

so much behind 2FA

#

ugh

wide hazel
#

rip

static badge
#

browsers

#

see this is why you just manually read and write to sockets by hand

upper flicker
#

oh my god it worked from edge

#

what is the world coming to

static badge
#

isn't edge just chrome now

upper flicker
#

not yet

wraith oracle
#

not yet

upper flicker
#

soon.jpg

static badge
golden gust
#

Wait

limber knotBOT
#

their forked chromium better be good

golden gust
#

What does it mean if your stuff works in edge but not in chrome?

limber knotBOT
#

and not a ram munching battery eating mess that chrome currently is

upper flicker
#

to quote the leaf

#

"cancer"

golden gust
#

not sure if chrome is broken or CF is on fire

static badge
#

retarded cancer z

limber knotBOT
#

they did some PR for smooth scrolling so I guess there is some hope the fork is better

static badge
#

smooth scrolling DansGame

upper flicker
#

scrolling is pretty butter on edge

#

not enough I'd use it over firefox or chrome

wide hazel
#

likely an extension Z has

upper flicker
#

its not crack

#

but its buttery

limber knotBOT
#

ya chrome does it on main thread

#

while edge and their fork do it on separate thread

static badge
#

does chrome have a main thread

#

last I checked it was 15 processes each with 30 threads

upper flicker
#

they definitely have a UI thread

#

and raster threads

#

so pick one of those and its that one

wide hazel
#

likely UI

#

sooorta makes sense

#

maybe sync'd?

#

iunno

static badge
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wtf would doing it on a separate thread even do

wide hazel
#

I could see a potential optimization for most of their userbase where it would only raster things on the page you see

static badge
#

is the rendering that slow it makes a difference

upper flicker
#

copy whatever safari is doing in webkit

#

idk if thats async or not

#

but thats pure butter too

wide hazel
#

they lost a ton of memory performance with the switch to sandboxed tabs

#

but the security is golden

#

I don't mind

static badge
#

ate my fucking ram too

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try "The Great Suspender" @static badge

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suspends tabs you haven't viewed in a while

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clears ram

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windows defender application guard for a locked down edge exists in windows 10

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chrome has a flag for that now too

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they're moving in that direction

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nifty

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firefox also has it afaik

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.g the great suspender

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it's a good feature

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monkaS that image

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hah, yeah

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thankfully it works beautifully

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apparently you can see how chrome does or doesnt discard based on things

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chrome://discards

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idk if its enabled by default yet though to actually do it

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suspended/not suspended

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just grays things out a bit

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you cannot discard the tab showing you the discard stats

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messed up

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lol

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could discard u

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not for very long

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you'd think that with a thing whos sole purpose it is to render stuff they'd have slightly nicer-looking dev tabs

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oh yeah ur literally cancer and u'd duplicate

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I mean, they look fine but

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just fine is all

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just sitting here reconsidering the random shit I have 2FA'd

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my life is 2FA

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like if someone wants my reddit account they can have it

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why is that 2FA'd z

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honestly I personally 2FA everything I can

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I suppose I mind less

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2FA'd z

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is that a mistype

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I only mind when I have to go log back into everything

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😦

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ur first problem is having reddit in the first place

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the 2FA just manifests that problem for you to see

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why does she exit the entire program inside a helper function?

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T.T

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just realized this

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who needs exception bubbling anyway

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I get that's it's an intro but mah best-practice

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wonder if my intro to UNIX next semester will be the same- I hear it might

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"here's a terminal"

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"don't be afraid of it"

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god help you if you get one of those 'you must present your scripts running to the prof to get credit' classes

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a terminal once stole my credit card

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could write a script to grade my script