I cry when I don’t get over 165
#general
unreal quarry
i got an i7-4790k and still love it
atomic marten
Frames was fine till phantom patch
Maybe I’ll get rid of those Spectre and meltdown stuff
unreal quarry
i dont OC either, never have
atomic marten
Pesky security impeding on my performance
I use noscript
It’s fine
Basically every website is broken but it’s safer than any patch
Which, didn’t even work
Maybe I’m recompiling the kernel soon...
O yea sleep night
shy ibex
karmic solar
next moat
vestal jasper
Why do people join in batches
There'll be no joins for like 5 hours then there's 10 people joining in the same hour
stiff yarrow
@atomic marten you're really getting hung up on 1.13 running poorly being some kind of hallmark of a hardware problem 
karmic solar
personally i just joined for the status of 1.14
orchid pelican
@karmic solar thats completely fine. itl be done when it done 😃
karmic solar
yep
i don't know about any, though we have new gen for example with the new villages
karmic solar
you'll probably atleast want some way to get players out to the new areas
void void
stiff yarrow
gonna run 3dmark in windows just to see if my hardware is landing where it should
smoky rampart
my server is just going to make a whole new world since 1.14 is such a big update and it changes the biome/village generation a lot and even adds a new biome (bamboo jungle)
stiff yarrow
@atomic marten @unreal quarry @static badge in case any of you were curios, it seems like my hardware operates as expected in windows (which is what I've been saying 
)
I'm also barely above the average graphic score for my specific card on this test
stiff yarrow
I'll try later
quasi canyon
@native cradle our world is already at 50k from all the updates and border expansions lmfao
native thunder
You upgraded to a 2070.that mcmmo money must be rolling in
hot gorge
That test looks like it's right where it should be for an 8700k and 2070. Am I missing something?
native thunder
I think he was saying there was performance issues on his Linux install
And that it worked on the windows side
deep shoal
is there a bukkit plugin that catches when a player disconnects
and makes it look to all other players as if the disconnected player is just frozen
can I change the inventory of an OfflinePlayer
red fiber
finite wave
@deep shoal Well kindof
torn matrix
spice nimbus
finite wave
@native cradle Just get manjaro with cinnamon
Manjaro is arch though.
Which limitations?
I see.
Tried Budgie?
I saw some images of it, reminds me of cinnamon.
stiff yarrow
@native thunder 2070 is not even a very high end card you know 😛
native thunder
It's like a 500 dollar card
That's a little over half the price of my entire machine
stiff yarrow
in a world where 900 and 1400 dollar cards exist
finite wave
My dick is 2900€
native thunder
Buying a 500 dollar card that's the most expensive card in existence doesn't make my wallet cry any less
stiff yarrow
I got this card because it was as close to my old gpu in performance as possible without being a downgrade
and while still being a slight upgrade
karmic solar
I haven't had any issues with my 2070 on arch
Not a single problem
Great experience
reef arch
proper tartan
light wren
finite wave
Weird
hard lake
Xfce is the best
You need 32 bit libs for steam @native cradle
It won't work otherwise
river mortar
stiff yarrow
@native cradle I'll probably try out arch in the near future, I'm just a noob so I wanted to try out ubuntu first
karmic solar
yeah, i used to run ubuntu and it was horrible. I run Debian 9.1 on my dedi
The AUR is amazing too. No manual install. Pretty much everything is readily available
Also you only have to install Arch once. Make a automatic install scripts and any installs in the future will take less than 5m
tardy lynx
I just use ubuntu for everything as that's what I'm used to and it's working fine, but I know there's other distros that also work well
karmic solar
Yeah. I find ubuntu to work well on larger servers but i find ZFS better on debian and ubuntu is also quite heavyweight on resources for anything smaller
Debian for example uses 30MiB ram on my VPN VPS
Ubuntu would be 100+
tardy lynx
o yea
ubuntu used 120MB, raspbian lite uses like 28
but I had plenty of spare ram in my ubuntu server
karmic solar
I have a couple of VPSes around the would which i use for VPN purposes. Most of them have like 128M ram
tardy lynx
16GB total, 6 for mc, + web server and file server
karmic solar
That would never work with buntu
On my dedi i have 64GiB total with 12 allocated to mc. 16 to FTB infinty and the rest mostly sit idle. Discord bot too
Uses around 2G
hetzner is awesome
Where do ya'll host?
tardy lynx
like the renting place?
karmic solar
yeah
karmic solar
I have my dedi at hetzner. I pay 22EUR for 32GiB ram and an i7 4770
pretty good deal if you ask me
tardy lynx
wow
karmic solar
Downside is Germany and Finland are the only available locations but me and friends live in Sweden so it doesnt matter much
Though it might be problematic when i move to SK
bronze wraith
karmic solar
The same costs around 59EUR with their new Rise servers at OVH
tardy lynx
paid 18EUR for 16GB and Xeon W3530
(took forever to remember the cpu)
Does hetzner have ddos protection and ssd raid?
karmic solar
yup
Most servers come with dual ssds in raid 0. Extra disks and other hardware can also be rented
karmic solar
Then just set that up at install
karmic solar
You can get hardware kvm access for install of whatever you want
I also have an EX42 with an i7 7700 and 64GiB for ram and dual 512GiB nvme 660p ssds which i play 34Eur for
tardy lynx
wow
karmic solar
It says i7 6700 but they only have 7700's' in their finland dc so you get upgraded.
tardy lynx
40.80EUR + 46.80EUR setup costs but still nice
tardy lynx
homehosting would be fine for a 9 player private server tho
void void
tardy lynx
piception
void void
true canyon
.eta
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
true canyon
They still hungry?
wide chasm
They're always hungry
heady spear
why is it "no table" instead of "not able"?
quasi valley
┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)
hard lake
op me for a pmc review and I'll tell you
I use them to craft elytras @livid echo
So they aren't 100% useless
wide chasm
Can you use phantom membranes for elytras?
hard lake
In custom recipes, yes
quasi valley
you can repair elytras with them
wide chasm
Ah I see
quasi valley
make a custom recipe for membranes and disable phantoms if you like
void void
red bobcat
vale pagoda
livid echo
thats it imma nuke phantoms
stiff yarrow
tbh it looks pretty dog like
I know its supposed to be a cat but
that's the most dog-like cat
ever drawn in a yiff comic
static badge
you would know wouldn't you
wintry matrix
static badge
you filthy fucking weeaboo
stiff yarrow
isn't that like the pot calling the kettle a jabroni
ionic gale
feral hornet
void void
hey sweeties
strange bane
tardy lynx
gj
hard lake
@stiff yarrow furry
tardy lynx
who said my name?
fallow glacier
haughty quiver
limber knotBOT
Hello all
austere ivy
I'm hungry
normal stirrup
ancient parrot
keen fulcrum
stable plume
fierce frost
twin root
tardy lynx
you all wanting eta for paper 1.14?
twin root
Just learned about the project, 1.14 would be lovely, but I'm in no hury 😃
karmic solar
id expect 1.14 in about two weeks maybe
red tiger
finite wave
.eta
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
finite wave
@upper flicker This seems like an optimal way to get more users, delay a release by a few days/weeks
unreal quarry
you think its being delayed? lmao
go look on github to see their progress
theres over 600 patches to be updated
static badge
I'm only on patch 167 :>
karmic solar
welp
unreal quarry
i think a lot of people forget that these patches have taken what, 5 years to create? and each time a new MC release comes out they pretty much have to be rewritten to fit the new version. So, they're getting mad that its taking a few days to code 5 years worth of patches. SMH
void void
tardy lynx
mojang stop updating mc
jovial kraken
brittle ether
tardy lynx
Damn 440 server patches
rich thorn
tardy lynx
cool
strange bane
Would 2fa actually fixed it though?
You don't just bruteforce 200K accounts and not get noticed.
tardy lynx
2fa fixes everything
merry talon
not the breach but it would protect the accounts
assuming the worst about their hashing scheme
tardy lynx
paperspigot
limber knotBOT
@tardy lynx [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
cosmic raft
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Minecraft 1.14 -Trailer Vs Reality - length 32s - 2,540 likes, 37 dislikes (98.6%) - 17,942 views - MarcusKron on 2019.04.27
cosmic raft
lmfao
tardy lynx
wow lmao
wide chasm
I found someone else for you to complain about the lack of Paper support:
tardy lynx
wow that's great
stuck lava
.eta
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
pulsar wigeon
the music really makes that video kashike
cosmic raft
yup
austere ivy
limber knotBOT
(DiscordBot) Minecraft 1.14 -Trailer Vs Reality - length 32s - 2,563 likes, 37 dislikes (98.6%) - 17,942 views - MarcusKron on 2019.04.27
austere ivy
hold on a second
what
how did I NOT SEE THAT
someone said trailer for 1.14 so I was like "huh I should post this one thing I saw on r/minecraft"
lol whoops
cosmic raft
static badge
filthy reddit weeaboos
limber knotBOT
baka-anime-gif
ok
im very glad I don't have to see gifs
don't worry RoboMWM
I can bring it all to you here
grins "(⊙ω⊙)"
(RoboMWM) [SFM] - Scout gets Attacked by a Wild Yet Curious Being - length 29s - 104,208 likes, 941 dislikes (99.1%) - 1,340,954 views - ItalianNinja on 2019.04.16
neeeeeext
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At least it prints out slowly
static badge
wtf
limber knotBOT
I've got /printers aliased locally
│19:48:42 | printer => /input insert https://theoatmeal.com/comics/printers
/printer rather
cosmic raft
hi @static badge
static badge
wat
static badge
hello kash
cosmic raft
hello
warped spear
1.14.1 incoming
warped spear
funny enough the printer in my dorm broke the other day
limber knotBOT
I have this old printer and it still works
while this all in one printer locks up the moment it's turned on
hushed whale
quasi valley
limber knotBOT
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
void void
silver swallow
hard kernel
hi]
warped spear
any chance of paper ever getting sponge support
i would love to use it with my modded servers
finite wave
No
static badge
sponge support 
finite wave
I don’t think he knows what Paper is
limber knotBOT
with all the shared performance improvements sponge is literally paper with sponge support
cedar spade
y u no remake paperspigot as a hMod plugin
limber knotBOT
@cedar spade [Auto] We're now known as Paper.
canary was bae, get away with hMod!
cedar spade
neptune is the future of Minecraft servers
static badge
paper is the future of spigot
limber knotBOT
gg, travis fails to build my pr with jdk11 for some reason
static badge
rip
finite wave
phoenix161 is it gradle?
static badge
jan nice job
finite wave
Lol
limber knotBOT
it's paper
finite wave
What was my brain thinking
static badge
paper builds fine with jdk11
limber knotBOT
well tell that travis: https://travis-ci.org/PaperMC/Paper/builds/525419714
static badge
it's currently building 
static badge
The command "~/bin/install-jdk.sh --target "/home/travis/openjdk11" --workspace "/home/travis/.cache/install-jdk" --feature "11" --license "GPL" --cacerts" failed and exited with 51 during .
rip
upper flicker
yeah travis's script must be fucked
or they changed the name of the jdk
or something else given that there's no useful output there
static badge
it failed
upper flicker
...
static badge
:>
upper flicker
are you fucking retarded
finite wave
.whotoblame
limber knotBOT
Aikar, of course!
static badge
what it failed z :>
limber knotBOT
this is really annoying to do without the sound fix: https://i.moep.tv/qRruK2sD.mp4 xD
hard kernel
how to open run.bat file on linux? sorry probable stupid question
limber knotBOT
you use a bash (.sh) file, .bat is for windows
if you really have to run a .bat for some reason then you might need to look into wine or something
hard kernel
i dont have to... i just dont know what to do next ... im familiar with making a spigot server on windows... just never did on linux
limber knotBOT
the instructions include steps for all 3 major operating systems
hard kernel
what instructions?
finite wave
What are you referring to? @hard kernel
limber knotBOT
spigot guides generally work with paper as well if you can't find any paper specific ones: https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/spigot-installation/
hard kernel
i took my spigot.1.14 file from the buildtools threw it in a directory made a run.bat file and apparently it doesnt work with linux ... thanks for the link ill check it out
limber knotBOT
but there isn't much too it, just run the java command in a terminal, wether that#s through a bash file or manually doesn't really matter xD
hard kernel
yea idk what a batch file is im still learning linux... i will stop bothering yall... u guys busy
limber knotBOT
.bat are batch files because they execute commands in a batch ;)
woven otter
weary barn
void void
ornate spindle
mfw I find this while looking at timings https://i.tcpr.ca/3wXtZ7D
static badge
entities have been broken for a while apparently
ornate spindle
that is 1.12.2
potent warren
Spottedleaf has a colored role now? 
ornate spindle
90% of the entities are item frames anyways
fading topaz
woven otter
Spottedleaf made a deal with the devil
plucky kindle
vestal jasper
Wait what's that ui from
woven otter
which one
wind crow
jade light
That's aikar's timings site
cursive narwhal
Is it sad if I get tinder plus?
woven otter
yes
limber knotBOT
why pay when you get matches for free? 🤔
gloomy warren
how to lower difficulty settings on tinder? I don't think paying money for tinder plus works for that 😄
gusty idol
Which implementation of Collection does HashMap#values() return?
static badge
Its own
gusty idol
static badge
just a Collection implementation :>
gusty idol
None of these?
unreal quarry
why cant you use a Collection?
gusty idol
Does JUnit's Assertions#assertEquals() work when one of the parameters is null?
Let me try
upper flicker
assertNull
gusty idol
I'm writitng JUnit tests for my command framework
static badge
u have a disorder
gusty idol
I have a TestCommand class that I use to write test commands
gusty idol
I don't want to check if something is null
unreal quarry
List l = new ArrayList<>(map.values()) if you really want a List for some reason even though they are slow
upper flicker
what is it youre trying to do
static badge
lists are slow
gusty idol
I need to compare an expected array/list/whatever of parsed arguments with the actual parsed arguments generated when handling the command
unreal quarry
lists are slow if you dont care for order
upper flicker
assertequals can handle null and fail the assertion yes
unreal quarry
yes! wife is bringing CiCi's pizza home! \o/
gusty idol
Ok
static badge
well you're definitely not going to have fun comparing the elements of a hashmap and a list
gusty idol
Oh wait
static badge
you'll find out very quickly why they document hashmap to have no defined order
gusty idol
I can't compare an array/list/whatever of expected parsed args against HashMap#values() if it returns its own implementation of Collection right
unreal quarry
slaps leaf with a LinkedHashMap
static badge
I don't think the collection returned implements equals
unreal quarry
a Collection is a Collection @gusty idol
static badge
there are interesting consequences of implementing equals on collections
and it's that you can compare collection.equals(list) to be true but not list.equals(collection)
gusty idol
So I could compare a List against HashMap#values() using Assertions.assertEquals()?
static badge
if you really want to check if they have the same elements
new HashSet<>(collection1).equals(new HashSet<>(collection2));
or some for loop
no you can't
I just said why
unreal quarry
probably
gusty idol
gusty idol
oh
static badge
he wants to compare them :>
gusty idol
Well yeah
unreal quarry
yeah, but where is the List coming from? why cant it be a Set or a Collection?
i mean, is the implementation of List needed
gusty idol
The List would come from something like
Arrays.asList("expected", "parsed", "arguments", true, 0);``` I guessand those are in the values of a hashmap? 
gusty idol
The parsed args are stored in a HashMap
static badge
is it an integer to string hashmap...?
gusty idol
I need my tests to assert that some given expected parsed args are equal to the actual parsed args
No it's String to Object
Argument ID to parsed object
Inb4 "bad idea/design"
static badge
argument id?
gusty idol
/**
* An argument for a command.
*/
public class Argument {
private final String id;
private final ArgumentType type;
private String errorMessage;```right well as for your issue just use a size check and a contains all check
gusty idol
Inb4 "wtf is your framework"
surreal moth
string id
🤔
gusty idol
So could I use a List for the expected parsed args?
unreal quarry
Collection myCollection = Arrays.asList("expected", "parsed", "arguments", true, 0);
?
static badge
billy pls
unreal quarry
i dont understand the need for a List still 😛
static badge
it's the comparison
do you want to test for ordering
if you want to test for ordering just make another map and make them both linked maps
instead of this list shit :>
static badge
ordering will be an issue
gusty idol
What am I saying
static badge
I've given you 3 solutions pick any tbh :>
gusty idol
I can't make a HashMap with elements in a single line though
While I can have a single-line call to Arrays.asList()
gloomy warren
What's your argument id?
static badge
I mean make a map of the expected parsed arguments
static badge
if you're going to make your framework this id -> object shit you should check both
gusty idol
Don't call it shit 😠
static badge
you're trying to use it as if it were something else
gusty idol
What?
gloomy warren
Why do you need the HashMap with Map<ID, Object(with ID)>.
gusty idol
How else am I supposed to pass the args to Command#run()
Without super complicated code
gloomy warren
Did you check acf for that?
gusty idol
What's the point of rewriting ACF
gloomy warren
Find your subcommand, put all the rest in a list and pop the arguments in context resolver.
What's the point of writing a new command framework? 😛
gloomy warren
Acf uses the input from the completion event or the command to create a List<String> from it.
So: String[] args -> List<String>. Every context resolver takes zero, one or more arguments from the front of the list to create a new object instance. E.g. OnlinePlayer searches for a current online player with one argument. CommandSender doesn't need any arguments.
gusty idol
I'm talking about this
That other line was a bad example since it had to do with completion
But if I made something like that then my framework would lose some of its cool features
gloomy warren
what cool features do you have?
tardy lynx
when's paper 1.14
gusty idol
Well you could have this:
SomeCommand() {
super(
"some-command",
new CommandOptions().setOptionalArguments(
new Argument(
"boolean", // ID
BuiltInArgumentType.BOOLEAN,
"Error message"
)
)
);
}
And when a command sender provided an invalid value for the boolean argument, the framework would send Error message to the sender
gloomy warren
.eta
limber knotBOT
Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.
gusty idol
And the command won't be run
gloomy warren
@Subcommand("foo")
public void onBoolean(Player player, boolean aBoolean)``` Same here 😛If you don't set an error message, then the command's usage is sent
Yes but does ACF let you set a custom error mesage for an argument?
gloomy warren
You can create your own context resolver for that.
gusty idol
Sounds more complicated than my thing
gloomy warren
When do you need your special messages?
gusty idol
Oh so because it's a feature that ACF doesn't have, it's a bad feature?
meager token
gloomy warren
No, it's not a bad feature, I just don't know why I should tell a user their invalid input in different ways 😉
gusty idol
Wouldn't you want to send "Player not found" for example when you have a player argument and someone provides a username that no online player has
Instead of the command's usage message
gloomy warren
That's exactly the default behavior from acf
gusty idol
What
vital sun
gloomy warren
Okay, my bad. there is no error message for online players. But that's a minor thing because you can override the existing getOnlinePlayer(). method by registering a new context resolver for OnlinePlayer instances.
hard kernel
im guessing no plugins from 1.13.2 work on 1.14
void void
limber knotBOT
some plugins might work, some wont
gloomy warren
some have already 1.14 (dev/beta) releases
stiff yarrow
someone pinged me and I can't find it 
stable oriole
@stiff yarrow in the search bar look for mentions: nossr50
void void
stiff yarrow
thx found it
stable oriole
👍
unreal quarry
@stiff yarrow https://i.imgur.com/5oq7FJr.png 😉
stiff yarrow
wow there's a button for it
unreal quarry
yeah, its a life saver for me. most of the time i dont see a mention for 12 hours and its buried ^_^
stiff yarrow
sometime today I need to figure out why linux is awful performance and windows isnt
celest coyote
static badge
cuz it's linux obv :>
austere ivy
obv :>
daring oxide
light crane
limber knotBOT
is there a place where i can view paper progress on 1.14 or contribute to it?
static badge
.github
limber knotBOT
Paper's Main GitHub repo: https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper
static badge
branch ver/1.14-pre5
I think z is working on that right now though so maybe not now?
z u working on it
static badge
weak
woven otter
need more etas 
upper flicker
just more goblins
woven otter
feed them all to goblins
stiff yarrow
is there no dono link for paper anywhere
woven otter
Z takes all of the donations
woven otter
he will steal it from your account
limber knotBOT
i heard Z is addicted to cocaine
upper flicker
all one of them every other month
lavish lily
woven otter
so Z when will you share your desktop
woven otter
no
static badge
static badge
expecting something not cancerous
woven otter
ye
limber knotBOT
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woven otter
Wasn't he running arch or are you memeing
woven otter
and tomorrow it might be hannah montana linux
wind mauve
.taco @upper flicker
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orchid pelican
I need to isntall linux
woven otter
in soviet russia linux installs you
woven otter
but is it really linux then 🤔
upper flicker
GNU\Windows
static badge
windows
gloomy warren
Git Bash
woven otter
^
austere ivy
orchid pelican
Wtf I didn’t think of that
woven otter
ur slow Z
upper flicker
must've been on windows
orchid pelican
What’s WSL?
orchid pelican
Ye
upper flicker
lets you run the ubuntu package
orchid pelican
I am installing that now
Last windows install I forgot the password
Seems like WSL doesnt support windwos apps touching files in the subsystem?
upper flicker
no
cd out of the subsystem to the main drive if you want that
the way they did the filesystem means that if windows stuff touches it, itll start losing metadata
so if you want interop you need to do it from /mnt/c/
or just anywhere not in the main filesystem
orchid pelican
hmmm ok
I kinda miss linux
./paper: line 2: $'\r': command not found
./paper: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `$'in\r''
'/paper: line 4: `case "$(echo "$SHELL" | sed -E 's|/usr(/local)?||g')" in
interesting lmfao
time to install a real linux distro
static badge
ah the windows newline standard
orchid pelican
ye and i dont wanna conver each file every time widnows touches it
so anyone reccomend a linux distro?
thinking about going arch this time
coarse urchin
I just had to change it to LF once using notepad++ and i havent had issues
stiff yarrow
@orchid pelican if you're familiar with Linux arch is popular, I'm a newbie and starting with ubuntu 
orchid pelican
ye i used mint for like 2 years
Kinda thinking of moving my development enviroment to linux
stiff yarrow
I used fedora back in the day and it was alright
orchid pelican
Who here develops on windows ?
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isn't a multimap just a map to an arraylist
wraith oracle
Yes
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god how many chains of fucking classes do I need to find the source for guava's multimap
coarse urchin
I do delevop in windows
stiff yarrow
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and I had to go through like 4 classes to get that
tranquil solstice
stiff yarrow
its literally just a Map<K, Collection>?
orchid pelican
thats funny haha
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basically with wrappers around it
stiff yarrow
isn't that a HashMap but with more steps
sour raptor
golden gust
It just provides a prettier interface to it
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uses a hashset for the collection
yeah it just provides a good looking interface and that's it
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set or list and that's it
problem with collection is that it doesn't define hashcode or equals
so you literally end up sticking to list or set anyways
stiff yarrow
why do you have a collection as a key
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because you have to
wraith oracle
There can't be a relation One-to-Many in a BiMap
stiff yarrow
what are you mapping anyways
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wtf even is this map made up of
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mfw nossr stealing my shit
stiff yarrow
this is why I asked
wraith oracle
I actually would need two HashMaps, one with a collection as key and other with a collection as values
stiff yarrow
why do you have a collection as a key :Thonk:
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nossr with the accidental copy pastes
one day ur gonna have ur weeaboo hentai on ur clipboard
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excuse me
stiff yarrow
you have a dog taking a poo as an avatar
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a dog
wraith oracle
I have a Map<Enchantment, String[]>, the Strings are patterns that I'll use to match an Enchantment later
stiff yarrow
wraith oracle
yes
wraith oracle
yeah
stiff yarrow
oh
wraith oracle
kind of
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like you want "sharpness" -> sharpness, "sharp" -> sharpness?
stiff yarrow
I have a strong suspicion there is some design flaws here
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yes that's what I meant
so why are you mapping a string array to it?
you'd probably just want two maps tbh
one with the enchantment to its strings
wraith oracle
I know
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and one with a shit load of strings to enchantments
wraith oracle
That's what I was trying to avoid
Hence why I need a BiMultimap so it doesn't look as ugly
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aka Map<Enchantment, String[]> and Map<String, Enchantment>
stiff yarrow
I agree with spotted
@wraith oracle just make your own container class to handle this with a nice interface
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ya :>
stiff yarrow
make your own bimultimap or w/e you call it
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bigaystraightmultimap
stiff yarrow
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wtf does even mean
wraith oracle
I don't really wanna do it since I can't keep thinking the implementation could've been better but I don't know how to lol
wraith oracle
That's the thing
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you're not going to find a map impl that will do this for you
stiff yarrow
yeah but you already said guava didn't have it
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the bimultimap isn't going to work here :>
stiff yarrow
I don't even know what the bimultimap is
but what you want sounds dead simple to do on your own
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it means it can map both ways (the bi part)
stiff yarrow
stop relying on libs to do every little thing and make your own container 
stiff yarrow
2 maps in one class
bam you have a container now
add interface to make it easy to use
void void
i dont think that's how it works
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nossr ur brain is spaghetti
stiff yarrow
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does guava not have a bimultimap
fallen oracle
I thought it did
stiff yarrow
idk just seems weird to get hung up on 'but I want a lib to do it for me' when you could just make it yourself fairly easily
void void
how would that work
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it's called overengineering part 1
wraith oracle
@stiff yarrow it's easy to make if you don't really care about whether there's a room for improvement in the implementation
stiff yarrow
?
wraith oracle
but I am probably overthinking it
stiff yarrow
why does it matter
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tbh two maps is pretty simple
stiff yarrow
just diy
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alright u fuking weeb calm down
wraith oracle
Now
stiff yarrow
is that some kind of weeb reference
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.g rich presence
limber knotBOT
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discord features
void void
two maps is "good enough" for simple cases but there's lots of stuff you have to handle
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like? :>
void void
wraith oracle
Yeah
void void
removing from both, adding to both, checking both
wraith oracle
that's why I was a bit worried about implementation
stiff yarrow
prplz stating the obvious
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ah prplz
not only is that easy as fuck to actually do
it doesn't matter in this context
limber knotBOT
who needs 2 maps
void void
i might have missed the context, what are we actually coding again?
wraith oracle
Skript
limber knotBOT
if u need 2 maps u prolly doing it wrong
wraith oracle
lol
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we're mapping Map<String, Enchantment>, Map<Enchantment, String[]>
limber knotBOT
every time I found myself thinking I need 2 maps I found a better way
stiff yarrow
well if you're making your own container might as well generify it
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we know we're not going to collide on enchantments and not on the strings either
unless we add user config :>
limber knotBOT
Just make your own class if you need stuff keyed on some string
stiff yarrow
wow robo thanks
void void
what's the use case?
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also is that a load factor of 1 by default?
stiff yarrow
we've only been saying that for like 30 minutes
limber knotBOT
I just got here
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wait is that not changeable
limber knotBOT
so here is my +1
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void void
enchantment name aliases or something?
stiff yarrow
probably better off not using 1.14 till1. 14.1
limber knotBOT
but if you don't know OOP then ofc 2 maps seems like something you'd use
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nice going nossr
stiff yarrow
limber knotBOT
so, learn oop
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apparently 1.14 has issues
stiff yarrow
robo now entering talking out his ass territory
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you know you don't have to and should not try to shove OOP into everything
stiff yarrow
there are circumstances where you use 2 maps
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one design does not rule all
stiff yarrow
they do exist
limber knotBOT
4 cores
void void
pregenerated world or what?
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don't worry we'll eventually fix it :>
void void
world gen is a big deal
limber knotBOT
could be 4000 cores
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yeah afaik they added MT chunk gen? not sure don't know the new chunk shit
and speaking of I need to go fix patches
void void
ok mr patch man
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this is a case :>
crystal compass
Yo
void void
just use arrays
crystal compass
Does anybody have a tutorial anywhere about updating a plugin using github
limber knotBOT
github plugin
void void
what is a github plugin exactly?
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wat
crystal compass
edit
limber knotBOT
github literally has a tutorial
void void
a bukkit plugin that's hosted on github or..?
crystal compass
yeah
golden gust
Github is irrelevant there, it boils down to what/if they're using a package manager or not
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using git will work if you know that
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.g crazycrates github
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that one?
crystal compass
yus
stiff yarrow
yes
void void
and inventoryholder ?
stiff yarrow
well there's another way to get them
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golden gust
It's the inventory view that has the title now, not the inventory itself
crystal compass
Honestly i'd pay one of yall to update that for me
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oh
crystal compass
😉
stiff yarrow
the api basically moved
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so use the inventory view sam :>
stiff yarrow
@crystal compass I'll do it
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there should be a getView on inventory iirc
stiff yarrow
give me enough skrilla
crystal compass
How much
void void
vouch for nossr he's been doing plugins since the start of minecraft
stiff yarrow
is this your plugin or some other dudes plugins
limber knotBOT
nossr wants dat kash
stiff yarrow
leme look at the code to see how spaghetti it is to update
limber knotBOT
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.g badbones CrazyCrates
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copper oar
crystal compass
Honestly I could probably use a PlaceHolderAPI update aswell
not sure if youd want to do that either
stiff yarrow
limber knotBOT
I like the steve co crates from strangeweapons
stiff yarrow
this is maximum spaghetti
golden gust
oh god, takes me back to group manager
flat knot
tranquil solstice
Where's the paper 1.14 Dev builds?
crystal compass
GOBLINS
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not here yet boy :>
limber knotBOT
crazycode
crystal compass
types offer alright 500$
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void void
who names their plugin class main :|
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didn't think nossr would get paid to get cancer
limber knotBOT
straight outta a tutorial
stiff yarrow
for 500 dollars I'll update any spaghetti
golden gust
I mean
stiff yarrow
who could say no to that
golden gust
He's the literal maker of cancer
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I guess
crystal compass
mcmmo is pretty lit tho
stiff yarrow
I work in a spaghetti factory every day
golden gust
You maintain mcmmo full time? o.O
limber knotBOT
he dont do classic
stiff yarrow
anyways if the 500 dollar offer was serious I will graciously be overpaid to update this shitty plugin
crystal compass
lmao i was jk
crystal compass
What would you say is fair?
limber knotBOT
for nossr, $7
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$10
crystal compass
10$ + ill buy mcmmo paid version
limber knotBOT
a cent per pixel of red
crystal compass
kaapa
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nossr takes aikar's rate and divides it by 2 because he's jealous
fallen oracle
Dear god that command
fallen oracle
Rly?
crystal compass
I think placeholderapi is 1.14 compatible... ish
the man just stops it from even trying to work if its not the version he made it for
fallen oracle
Works fine on 1.14 last time I checked.
crystal compass
it works for you?
native thunder
Being associated with cancer and all
fallen oracle
For PlaceholderAPI...?
crystal compass
yup
native thunder
What does that plugin do that it even cares about version?
fallen oracle
PlaceholderAPI is one of the biggest API plugins out there
1000s of plugins hook into it
crystal compass
oh wait
native thunder
I know what it does. I'm asking what it touches that it needs to care about version
crystal compass
it does work
limber knotBOT
I still don't know what it does I have a guess but idk
crystal compass
fuckin rip
Lol
if only the jobs reborn author updated that plugin lots
that man is wild updating CMI
i like how I can always rely on nossr to update mcmmo fast though real talk
stiff yarrow
crystal compass
mans got like 20 versions out before i even check
limber knotBOT
he's the same guy who checked player location for his claim plugin
stiff yarrow
I don't have a claim plugin
fallen oracle
You freaked me out for a second lmao
limber knotBOT
it's also a giant all-in-one plugin that does a bunch of junk and is spaghetti
fallen oracle
@crystal compass you want a copy of PAPI built under 1.14?
crystal compass
Sweet
full zephyr
onyx steeple
Hi
limber knotBOT
does paper overwrite "max-tick-time=50" even if the value goes unchanged in default spigot.yml ?
crystal compass
oh they use inventory view now
limber knotBOT
so
imma prolly have to change my shop plogen
if they did something 2 dem inventories
how are u
pulsar wigeon
limber knotBOT
1.14 is already at 195 great work
pure tinsel
limber knotBOT
am doing well how r u mr antixray dood
placid forum
austere ivy
what's placeholderapi
wait no, I know what it is.
why should I hook into placeholderapi 👀
limber knotBOT
i dont
austere ivy
I'm sold!
wind mauve
Does anyone by chance know how to share a Windows 10 folder with access on an Android device?
limber knotBOT
Billy is a madman and won't even use spigot api for textcomponents
unreal quarry
for what?