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ornate spindle
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you'll hate our server since it is p2w af

gloomy sphinx
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thats ok

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all servers are

ornate spindle
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well not all towny servers are

livid echo
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isnt that like against the rules or something

gloomy sphinx
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the only legitimate server is md_5s test server

ornate spindle
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we're already blacklisted by mojang

livid echo
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kek

gloomy sphinx
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lool

ornate spindle
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my rotator made it ez to bypass

gloomy sphinx
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using the srv records

livid echo
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well we only need to look at the list and find ur server

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boom

ornate spindle
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iirc we're #1 on topg

livid echo
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veltpvp got blacklisted?

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and arcane?

ornate spindle
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yep

void void
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Why?

ornate spindle
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they broke the eula

hard lake
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eula=false

void void
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Selling digital stuffs for $$$$$

gloomy sphinx
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i remember playing with jhault from velt/arcane

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he would swat people with kids

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lol

livid echo
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all we need to do is eula=false smg

gloomy sphinx
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minecraft 2012 was a good time

void void
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Eula breaker servers

hard lake
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All you had to do is follow eula, yive

ornate spindle
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lmao

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I don't give a shit about the eula

gloomy sphinx
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i hope it isnt aspiriamc

ornate spindle
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that isn't #1

livid echo
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my bet is on minesuperior

gloomy sphinx
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even worse would be minesuperior

hard lake
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idc I would just care about profiy

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profit*

gloomy sphinx
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that is a shit towny server

livid echo
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but they say its already on 1.14 so it cant be it

gloomy sphinx
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it is probably that shti AzertuMC server

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those guys are weird

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they are stuck on 1.12

livid echo
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i think thats an ad

ornate spindle
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^

gloomy sphinx
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its probably MineSuperior

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has to be

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using viaversion

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duh

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a server like that cant reset

ornate spindle
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only our factions and prison reset

gloomy sphinx
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im just joking

livid echo
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just scout out the servers until we see yive on

ornate spindle
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why would I not be vanished?

gloomy sphinx
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good job though being #1

livid echo
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you'll unvanish at some point

gloomy sphinx
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how do you maintain a server that big

ornate spindle
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you simply don't

livid echo
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i had a 20 player server and it was awful i tell you

ornate spindle
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you tend to want to kill yourself daily

gloomy sphinx
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what is it like paying taxes

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for a mc server

ornate spindle
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idk I don't own the server

livid echo
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cant be mine superior cause its not blacklisted

ornate spindle
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it is blacklisted

gloomy sphinx
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bypass

ornate spindle
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^

gloomy sphinx
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it is pretty easy to bypass

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everyone does it that is blacklisted

livid echo
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even through a normal client?

finite wave
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Yive what do you do other than have a mirror

gloomy sphinx
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yes

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its not hard

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he owns vape client

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and plays on minesuperior

livid echo
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yive owns the world

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you just dont know it yet

ornate spindle
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just manage mc servers and do dev work every so often

finite wave
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I see

native thunder
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You do towny with 200+ yive? How's your tps?

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We pretty much die at 200+

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1.13 is fucking rough

ornate spindle
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~18 - 20, once we reach 220 we hit 10 tps

gloomy sphinx
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what are the server specs

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curious

native thunder
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We do about 14 at 230~

livid echo
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2b2t does 1tps at 100 players : )

native thunder
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But we also cheat

ornate spindle
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cheat?

gloomy sphinx
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tacospigot

native thunder
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We dial back view distance and turn off crop growth

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And turn off entity ai 😃

ornate spindle
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ah

livid echo
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thats a good way to get high tps

native thunder
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We're RP not towny so our playerbase accepts it somewhat

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But it's super rough

ornate spindle
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honestly if I disabled redstone, we'd probably support 250 at 20 tps

native thunder
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Nah. Once you're at a 200 you're getting fucked by players more than entities

gloomy sphinx
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better off disabling view distance

livid echo
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just disable joining

native thunder
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Having like 100 people in 3 chunks is super rough

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Back on 1.12 we had 300 players in like a 5 chunk radius

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Game turned into a slideshow

gloomy sphinx
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are you guys running just a single waterfall instance?

native thunder
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Ya

gloomy sphinx
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how much ram do you use avg and cpu

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just wondering

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on waterfall

native thunder
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On waterfall? We probably totally overallocate. I think it's at like 4 gb?

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Not sure about cpu statistics. Don't really have monitoring on it

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Our tooling is kind of crap

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I'm trying to work on it but eh

gloomy sphinx
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are you running consumer cpus like i7's?

native thunder
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Xeon

gloomy sphinx
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or xeons

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do you know the xeon?

native thunder
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Not off the top of my head. But it's not latest gen

hard lake
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I have a Xeon 3350X

ornate spindle
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issue with i7's is that most hosts end up with consumer boards which tend to bug out from excessive usage

hard lake
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LGA775

native thunder
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CPU E5-2643

gloomy sphinx
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mostly because lack of ECC memory

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but the ryzen platform o shit overclock a ryzen 7 to 4.8ghz with ecc memory

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your mc server will be blazing

native thunder
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What ryzen overclocks to 4.8 wtf

gloomy sphinx
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2800x

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on water

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lol

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probably avg 4.5

ornate spindle
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since when did ryzen support ecc

gloomy sphinx
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forever

native thunder
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They have

gloomy sphinx
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i believe the entire platform does

native thunder
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Not all boards do though

gloomy sphinx
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not all boards?

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interesting

native thunder
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I think only the x series does?

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I might be wrong

gloomy sphinx
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id go threadripper though if you run multiple instances

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still can overclock

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great price

native thunder
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We're locked at single instance sadly

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Nature of our server

ornate spindle
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wait a second aren't you the lotc dude

gloomy sphinx
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damn well would be neat to see you with a ryzen cpu

native thunder
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ye

ornate spindle
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ah, seemed familiar

native thunder
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How in the world have you heard of me lol

ornate spindle
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saw you post in the help channel a while back, noticed the motd said lord of the craft

native thunder
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ah ya

gloomy sphinx
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how long has lotc been alive for

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feel like i know it from al ong time ago

ornate spindle
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it amazes me that you get that player count with a whitelisted server though

native thunder
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5-6 years now? I haven't been around that long

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RP is super niche so the people who are into it stay

ornate spindle
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I wish towny was like that

gloomy sphinx
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towny is

native thunder
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The RP community is interesting

gloomy sphinx
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but only if you make it different than just crates, towny, and jobs

native thunder
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Anyone that tries to make their rival server has so far failed pretty badly

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There's like maybe 3 big ones in the space?

ornate spindle
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wynncraft and lotc are like the only rp servers I know of

native thunder
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Wrynncraft does a different audience

ornate spindle
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they're still around?

native thunder
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They're like softcore rp. More around game mechanics

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I think so?

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They're that MMORPG audience

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We're that hard core rp audience.

void void
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mcMMO is good for skyblock?

ornate spindle
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a lot of servers use it, but I wouldn't say it is that needed if you have stuff that makes it not as useful

native thunder
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Do you work contract for your server yive?

ornate spindle
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nope

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at least I never signed a contract

native thunder
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How many people you have developing on your server?

ornate spindle
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pretty much just me, the other dev hasn't logged into the server in nearly 2 months

void void
heavy rapids
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nearly every dev I've ever worked with had a problem with generally being inactive :D

hard lake
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what server do you work on

native thunder
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Do you use a fork of towny?

heavy rapids
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"hey sry, can't update the plugin, currently developing an OS for fun"

mfw

native thunder
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Or just the open towny

ornate spindle
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not yet, I plan to fork towny soon, just been super busy with internal forks of tacospigot and paper

livid echo
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i really want to make a minecraft server but i dont know where i could get some dope ass hosting

ornate spindle
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everyone uses ovh or hetzner now of days

native thunder
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Hosting's not too bad if you're comfortable with linus

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linux*

livid echo
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i dont really need a dedicated

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and i use linux as my daily os so

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i'd say im comfortable

drowsy juniper
heavy rapids
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they ditched minecons, right?

ornate spindle
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when was the last minecon?

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2017 right?

heavy rapids
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2017 iirc?

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the one with mansions being announced if I'm correct

ornate spindle
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wasn't it basically being replaced with minecon earth

heavy rapids
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but that was just a livestream thingy right?

ornate spindle
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yeah

heavy rapids
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was it available for everyone or did you need a ticket tho

ornate spindle
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oof last real minecon was 2016

heavy rapids
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oh

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true

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1.11 was announced in 2016

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I'm getting old

hard lake
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minecon 2017 was the year of keemstar

heavy rapids
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the year of what

ornate spindle
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the dude who runs dramaalert

limber knotBOT
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void void
heavy rapids
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dunno that guy. and dramaalert as well. probably just some internet subculture I'm not a part of :D

fathom vigil
wicked pewter
hard lake
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lmao the trolls

ornate spindle
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best to stay away from it, basically worthless crap now of days

heavy rapids
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was access to the minecon '18 stream free tho? 🤔

hard lake
ornate spindle
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think it was

livid echo
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(my new fursuit)

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gone wrong in the hood

heavy rapids
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@hard lake you know those results are based on your interests, right? ;)

hard lake
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yes

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I clicked not interested

heavy rapids
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^^

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"EERIE" is a fitting name & description for that thing tho

livid echo
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professor stick is p good tho

ornate spindle
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no wonder my recommended is just home lab, wow and other tech stuff

livid echo
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mine is

heavy rapids
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I've never gotten any fitting recommendations other than in the related videos after another video

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might be because I run around the web without cookies and javascript

livid echo
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minecraft , crypto memes, old games, old stuff, clown world and linux

hard lake
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I wanna see linux stuff

livid echo
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why do all hosting comapnies look the same

hard lake
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furry linux youtube pops up

heavy rapids
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@hard lake

~#
livid echo
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talking about minecraft hosting companies

ornate spindle
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because they're all resellers

livid echo
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but at the same time i do not need like 32gb of ram for a shitty smp server

ornate spindle
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mcprohosting was built from reselling phoenixnap / securedservers

livid echo
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and these guys are reselling hetzner

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ovh if you are lucky

ornate spindle
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most mc hosts just oversell on boxes that they get from ovh or hetzner

tawny zealot
livid echo
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i think they just install pterodactyl

heavy rapids
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do you guys prefer hetzer or ovh?

livid echo
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hetzner cause im cheap

ornate spindle
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really depends, I love the server auction from hetzner, but I like how ovh is closer to me

hard lake
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I prefer Panzer IV

livid echo
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Tiger Tank > u

hard lake
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Germany branch sucks

heavy rapids
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I've only used SYS (OVH-related reseller) so far, and my experience has been pretty good

ornate spindle
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sys is owned by ovh

livid echo
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my friend has used ovh and he said it was gud

ornate spindle
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same with kimsufi

livid echo
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but we had tons of lag in the first few days

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only ~100 players

ornate spindle
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one doesn't simply support 100 players without optimisation

livid echo
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i guess but it was 2015

heavy rapids
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what kinds of optimization would one use for such player counts?

quasi valley
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1.8 is also horrible at dealing with such playercounts

limber knotBOT
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planes delayed allll daaaay

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this is what i get for booking airasia

ornate spindle
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tf are you on about? 1.8.9 can handle 1k players

quasi valley
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well if you optimize it, but not just like this thonk

limber knotBOT
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are we having the 1.8.9 cancer talk again

ornate spindle
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true default can support like 100 at most

livid echo
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hoooold on is github owned by microsoft?

ornate spindle
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yep

quasi valley
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for a while already

livid echo
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damn

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news to me

quasi valley
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not that it really matters

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except it does, free private repos

ornate spindle
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I don't get why people moved over to gitlab

gusty idol
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Minecraft is locked to 60 FPS for me on Linux despite the FPS limit set in Minecraft's settings, has anyone else had that problem?

quasi valley
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we have a sefhosted gitlab site for our server

hard lake
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disable vsync

quasi valley
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but other than that we use github privately

gusty idol
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In compton's settings? It will get me screen tearing then though

ornate spindle
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I use gogs for my self hosted git stuff

hard lake
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mc settings

gusty idol
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V-Sync is an FPS limit value isn't it

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In MC settings

hard lake
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not without optifine

ornate spindle
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I haven't used vsync in any game ever & have never experienced screen tearing

gusty idol
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I have OptiFine and I can set the FPS limit to Unlimited if I want, the game will still be capped at 60 FPS

ornate spindle
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disable vsync

gusty idol
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If I disable V-Sync in compton's settings, then I WILL get screen tearing. I haven't tried playing games with if off, but quickly moving floating i3 windows with it off is enough to notice screen tearing

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I've seen people telling to launch Minecraft with this command:

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vblank_mode=0 java -jar ./Minecraft.jar```
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But the launcher isn't a JAR anymore, right?

hard lake
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jvm

ornate spindle
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what is "compton"?

gusty idol
ornate spindle
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why would you disable it there?

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minecraft has a vsync option in video settings

hard lake
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check optionsof.txt

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in ~/.minecraft

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enableVsync:false in options.txt

gusty idol
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Is this what you call the MC V-Sync setting? Because I already told you the game is still capped to 60 FPS even with max framerate set to unlimited

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Ok let me see

hard lake
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and then your game should look like this

ornate spindle
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what version are you on?

gusty idol
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1.8.9

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I could try 1.14

ornate spindle
hard lake
gusty idol
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I found the enableVsync setting but it was in options.txt and not optionsof.txt, and it is already set to false

livid echo
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mayb ur pc is only capable to produce 60fps

gusty idol
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Also, I don't have that "Use VSync" setting in the MC video settings

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@livid echo I can get more than 60 FPS on Windows

livid echo
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mayb linux is just bipolar

gusty idol
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Also, don't you think that it would be weird to get absolutely no change in FPS when lowering the render dist from 8 chunks to 2 chunks?

hard lake
golden gust
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inb4 vsync is set in the drivers

void void
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yes

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very likely

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if you're using nvidia then you need some env variable to override that

gusty idol
void void
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same goes with mesa drivers (intel, amd)

hard lake
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tfw ati

void void
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why not amdgpu?

gusty idol
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I have an AMD Radeon HD 5450

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Idk

hard lake
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SAME

void void
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is that too new?

hard lake
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That's ancient

gusty idol
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Arch wiki said to use xf86-video-ati for my old GPU iirc

hard lake
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well old

gusty idol
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Let me check again

hard lake
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I doubt that gpu would get you over 60 fps

gusty idol
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It does get me 90+ FPS on Windows

hard lake
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it heats up to 80c for me

gusty idol
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I'm supposed to use the ATI driver

hard lake
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ati is not so good

gusty idol
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iirc the GPU doesn't even have a fan

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Only a heatsink

hard lake
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yeah I have it

gusty idol
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Starting compton with V-Sync disabled in its settings doesn't change this either

void void
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vblank_something=0

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.g mesa disable vsync

limber knotBOT
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gusty idol
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Yeah I saw that

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How do I start the MC launcher from the terminal?

golden gust
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hd5450

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Damn, that takes me back

void void
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new launcher?

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env vblank_mode=0 minecraft-launcher

hard lake
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That's not gonna work

gusty idol
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Oh

hard lake
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launcher != game

gusty idol
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:/

livid echo
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oh i see the problem

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you're using nano instead of vim

heavy rapids
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^ lmfao

golden gust
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.g xkcd butteryfly

limber knotBOT
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void void
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@hard lake i imply that launcher passes on env vars

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it generally does

hard lake
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@gusty idol try it

gusty idol
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I use Vim emulation in VS Code and IntelliJ but I haven't ascended to the state of real NeoVim user yet

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vblank_mode=0 minecraft-launcher?

livid echo
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prankd vim is for nerds

gusty idol
void void
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tbh i'd compare vblank_mode with glxgears

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e.g launch it without first

gusty idol
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OMG IT WORKS

void void
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and then with vblank_mode=0

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fair

gusty idol
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LAUNCHING THE LAUNCHER WITH vblank_mode=0 minecraft-launcher WORKS!

void void
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but minecraft...?

gusty idol
hard lake
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nice put that in your .desktop entry

gusty idol
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Ok

void void
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err no

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/usr/bin/env vblank_mode=0 ....

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like this

gusty idol
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Is this right?

[Desktop Entry]
Type=Application
Version=1.0
Name=Minecraft Launcher
Comment=Official Minecraft Launcher
Exec=/usr/bin/env vblank_mode=0 /opt/minecraft-launcher/minecraft-launcher
Path=/opt/minecraft-launcher/
Icon=minecraft-launcher
Terminal=false
Categories=Game;Application;```
void void
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yes, should be

gusty idol
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Ok, thanks!

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I'll try

hard lake
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tfw I wiped my arch partition

void void
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noob

hard lake
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My gpu is noob

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That's why I did it

gusty idol
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It works!

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Tried launching the MC launcher through rofi after editing the desktop entry

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The FPS cap is gone

void void
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i kinda miss rofi

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now i have cmd+space though

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spotlight 😍

hard lake
void void
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but i still do, i had my password manager hooked up tp rofi

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now i have to stick to cli for a while

gusty idol
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I edited my rofi config and I got rid of the fullscreen mode now

hard lake
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CHROME

gusty idol
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I don't like the font rendering in Firefox

hard lake
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wut

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That's not firefox's fault

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Setup your fontconfig

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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
<fontconfig>
    <match>
        <edit mode="prepend" name="family"><string>Cantarell</string></edit>
    </match>
    <match target="pattern">
        <test qual="any" name="family"><string>serif</string></test>
        <edit name="family" mode="assign" binding="same"><string>Cantarell</string></edit>
    </match>
    <match target="pattern">
        <test qual="any" name="family"><string>sans-serif</string></test>
        <edit name="family" mode="assign" binding="same"><string>Cantarell</string></edit>
    </match>
    <match target="pattern">
        <test qual="any" name="family"><string>monospace</string></test>
        <edit name="family" mode="assign" binding="same"><string>Source Code Pro</string></edit>
    </match>
</fontconfig>
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Don't use prepend

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Just serif, sans-serif and monospace

gusty idol
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I already set my default fonts

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But the letter spacing is weird in Firefox

hard lake
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Fix your hinting

gusty idol
hard lake
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Do you use lxappearance?

gusty idol
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Yes

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Should I set it to hintslight or hintfull?

hard lake
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Full

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And RGB

gusty idol
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I already have the sub-pixel RGB thingy

hard lake
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GNOME has it set to slight

daring seal
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Hello

gusty idol
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Does lxappearance only change the GTK font settings?

hard lake
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Yes

gusty idol
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Oh

hard lake
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Use qt5ct for qt

gusty idol
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Can't I just edit my .config/fontconfig/font.conf?

hard lake
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Yeah

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  <match target="font">
    <edit name="rgba" mode="assign">
      <const>rgb</const>
    </edit>
  </match>
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You can export a fontconfig using qt5ct

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Show me what you click

tidal geyser
gusty idol
hard lake
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looks good

faint rampart
supple summit
gloomy fern
median thistle
void void
lucid wing
gusty idol
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👋

limber knotBOT
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hi

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how can I mask the "If you wish to use IP forwarding.." using bungecord?

hard lake
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ip_forward: false

limber knotBOT
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you can write a plugin to do that

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Ah

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Alrighté.

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listen to PlayerHandshakeEvent and check if proxy logic is enabled, then you can fail the event with a custom kick message

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every devs that sees that should be able to write a small plugin for you that alters the message

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I am at work rn so I can't do that for you

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Thanks!ű

gusty idol
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Why does the syntax highlighting preview in IntelliJ settings not match the actual syntax highlighting

quasi mason
limber knotBOT
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maybe to denote that one is a preview and not the actual code

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No that would be stupid, lol

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Maybe it's a bug in the theme or intellij itself

gusty idol
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Yeah UI update

heavy warren
limber knotBOT
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Brace yourself, the future is coming

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there is already a working prototype

void void
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.g nullpointerexception JEP

limber knotBOT
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void void
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i'm waiting for this

limber knotBOT
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oh and switch expressions will hopefully leave preview, there is a draft jep for that too

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amber is on fire

normal echo
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That Sealed types JEP is pretty exciting

limber knotBOT
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tbh, I don't care about sealed types, I want record types :D

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and value types, but thats a whole different story, lol

normal echo
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well record types are exciting too

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Am I right in thinking it's more like structs yeah?

limber knotBOT
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uuh I guess

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they are data classes in kotlin or records in c#

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never used structs before

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I think "record (int x)" is a class with a final field x, a ctor with all fields, getters, hashcode, equals and tostring methods

pulsar wigeon
#

records in c#

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i mean....

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you're comparing two not yet released features...

limber knotBOT
#

oh really?

#

didn't knew that, only said what the jep said

pulsar wigeon
#

yea sure

#

just seems like a weird thing to compare

#

oh, i suppose that jep is super new

#

so they probably took what they could get

limber knotBOT
#

yeah that jep is a month old or smth

#

I just saw it know because they shared it on twitter

cedar spade
#

paperspigot

limber knotBOT
#

@cedar spade [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

pulsar wigeon
#

4/19

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5 days :P

worn ember
limber knotBOT
#

your connection sucks

native thunder
#

Oh hey wiz. Think I can get your help with the WE 7 API?

#

Trying to get a schematic to rotate based on the direction a player is facing. But the schematic just faces the same direction everytime regardless. https://i.imgur.com/XlFwFrB.png

#

I copied the code out of the rotate command but I appear to be doing something wrong?

worn ember
#

my connection is fine lol

buoyant fractal
zinc haven
#

yo i have a small server with friends, we want to play on paper 1.14 is it possible?

limber knotBOT
#

With vanilla sure.

#

Don't think paper is updated yet

last obsidian
limber knotBOT
#

True words

#

thats not even funny

#

Ok then...

#

theres no paper 1.14 if theres no spigot 1.14 ;)

#

you took this way too seriously

#

no. I am a dev and I know how annoying it is to be bothered by ppl for etas

#

It was a JOKE. We both knew 1.14 paper will take a little while..

shell stag
native thunder
#

Ah I'm an idiot. Transform is immutable

limber knotBOT
#

uuh, intellij should have warned you about that

native thunder
#

I used Ultimate edition in the past and it'd warn me when I wasn't doing anything with a method's return value. But I'm on community edition now and it doesn't seem to

limber knotBOT
#

uuh

#

EAP FTW, lol

tropic flame
#

you know it's gonna take a while when md_5 releases a pre5 build in the same day the full release will happen

limber knotBOT
#

well, its not like pre5 -> 1.14 was a big change

#

but he wants to iron out bugs first

#

I use Intellij EAP at work now because work wouldn't want to buy me a ultimate licence and instead wanted me to use eclipse

native thunder
#

Ouch

cedar spade
#

I can't tell whether using 1.13 instead of 1.14 does anything, especially considering there there were Material changes again?

native thunder
#

Probably not?

#

Ah wait I'm wrong

cedar spade
#

WALL_SIGN doesn't exist any more, so you'd think there would be compatibility

pulsar wigeon
#

yea it looks like they just don't care about breaking stuff anymore

#

idk

woven otter
#

is everything broken on 1.14

cedar spade
#

md seemed to be implying 1.13 won't load api-version: 1.14 plugins?

limber knotBOT
#

having 1.13 disables the pre 1.13 combat

#

I don't think 1.14 is required for 1.14 plugins

native thunder
#

Not just implying. The OP already said that it doesn't work

limber knotBOT
#

well, 1.14 can't load on 1.13

#

but you can just stay with api-version 1.13 and compile against api 1.14

pulsar wigeon
#

yea but things like wall_sign :\

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the api version is mostly for the legacy material compat layer

limber knotBOT
#

ye

pulsar wigeon
#

but materials are being removed without some compat layer now

limber knotBOT
#

and I doubt that md wants to maintain that shitty layer forever

pulsar wigeon
#

yea

limber knotBOT
#

I think it was a one off for 1.13 so make the transition easier

pulsar wigeon
#

so it basically comes down to

limber knotBOT
#

and in the future it will be removed again

native thunder
#

Does api-version check for the existence of the field or specifically for 1.13? Could you just throw like 1.12 in there

pulsar wigeon
#

keep separate plugin versions for separate MC versions

limber knotBOT
#

maven modules ftw

cedar spade
#

So 1.13 plugins that use WALL_SIGN now break, but 1.12 plugins don't

pulsar wigeon
#

^^

cedar spade
#

Who thought that was a good idea

native thunder
#

Somehow I was expecting a second layer of compat lol

limber knotBOT
#

I can see why he didn't add it tho

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Probably by mistake? Since it's auto generated nowadays?

native thunder
#

I wasn't entirely being serious

limber knotBOT
#

I can see why ppl would expect a combat layer tho

cedar spade
#

The removed/renamed dyes are also gone

glad bison
limber knotBOT
#

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wide hazel
#

The sentence gets better

dusk adder
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) This mess of converting a FEN string to Unicode : programminghorror - 4 comments, 85 points - TheOnlyMrCat, 3h ago

wet junco
forest heath
void void
#

compiling spigot-1.14-pre5

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build tools

static badge
#

hey z 1.14 was released yesterday when paper 1.14

quasi valley
#

disappointed. viathinksmall

pulsar wigeon
#

paper for 1.14 when leaf stops being retarded

quasi valley
#

then I'm gonna switch to Sponge

pulsar wigeon
#

concete for 1.14 when?

static badge
#

mojang moved entitytracker huh

crimson lodge
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

pulsar wigeon
#

unsure if woosh

static badge
#

only time anyone wants to hear woosh is when ur thrown off a building

upper axle
graceful osprey
vestal jasper
#

@static badge ur retarded

graceful osprey
#

not gonna question that train of thought spotted

vestal jasper
#

Implying he has one

normal echo
spiral bone
lyric osprey
ashen tartan
tropic flame
#

ew Sponge

austere ivy
#

You've got to be kidding me.

#

I'm done.

#

On my tiny Discord server for my Minecraft server that hasn't even opened yet, some idiot posted a 1000 character long message of Endgame spoilers.

pulsar wigeon
#

about time

austere ivy
#

And then he named himself an Endgame spoiler.

#

Then when I went to ban him, his avatar was an Endgame spoiler.

#

These people are insane.

pulsar wigeon
#

oh. i was hoping you were done doing minecraft development

olive garden
#

these are shitty movies anyway

#

I can determine that without watching them /s

austere ivy
#

Still didn't want to get spoiled for them.

smoky rampart
#

There is a new ending in Minecraft?

olive garden
#

people are weird

#

Endgame is a movie, based on my superb Google skillz

smoky rampart
#

Oh lol 😂

austere ivy
#

Y'know Marvel films?

#

Thor? Ironman?

#

This movie is the pinnacle and ending of all of those 20 previous films.

vestal jasper
#

Cat

austere ivy
#

Whether you like thor, ironman, the avengers, or you like guardians of the galaxy, this one film is the pinnacle to all of them. So.. it's just kinda important.

#

People are trying to spoil it everywhere and it's annoying.

unreal quarry
#

How movie ends: ||credits scroll by||

austere ivy
#

BAN

#

why did I click on the spoiler

#

honestly, you know, what did I expect

quasi valley
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) ✓@tomscott (Tom Scott): I’m in New Zealand, where Avengers: Endgame has been out all day, and the two women behind me on this bus are havin… https://t.co/oFC5I9MmJu (9 hours and 20 minutes ago)

austere ivy
#

Nice. Poor Tom.

wide chasm
#

We all know what the next video will be.

"I was on a bus in New Zealand once and two women behind me we're talking about a film that released that day. They completely spoiled everything, but what is more important..."

void void
wispy lynx
limber knotBOT
vestal jasper
static badge
#

ah yes

#

reality

unreal quarry
#

I literally just learned I can swipe side of screen to the other side to pull out the server/channel/player lists in discord on mobile :O this is a game changer

cedar spade
#

Wait did you not know that

unreal quarry
#

No lol

static badge
#

billy ur retarded

unreal quarry
#

I've been using primitive buttons and menus like a caveman all this time

cedar spade
#

But they slide out from those sides like most side menus in mobile apps do what

tardy lynx
#

imma try intellij

fiery cloak
chilly yoke
#

So when will 1.14 support be added just wondering?

void void
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

chilly yoke
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

left yacht
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

olive garden
#

@static badge eat em

void void
#

lul leaf is actually a goblin

limber knotBOT
#

My server is located in the Netherlands and I have a few players from Australia and China that logs in and gets thrown off after a while. "lost connection: Internal Exception: io.netty.channel.unix.Errors$NativeIoException: syscall:read(..) failed: Connection reset by peer"

#

Does "-Dpaper.playerconnection.keepalive=120" Java flag help?

#

Will it give their clients more time to connect to the server?

normal echo
#

You usually can tell when they get kicked for keepalive

limber knotBOT
#

They usually can join, walk around the server..and then thrown off.

#

While they are on they cannot open chests, craft stuff etc.

#

Or they are thrown right off. It changes.

pallid tapir
vestal jasper
#

water_worker
Some of these names are making me sad

crystal compass
#

Why would they release a snapshot version

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rather than wait to just do 1.14

#

lul

#

that version is maybe only useful for developers wanting to test their plugin compatibility

vestal jasper
#

that's likely the main reason

crystal compass
#

getting so much spam on my server lmao "wen 1.14"

#

no matter how many announcements i make rip

trail linden
vestal jasper
#

I just force bright bold pink text on login saying not to ask peepoJuice

crude ore
upper flicker
#

We’re going to need more goblins

woven otter
#

wat is this

silk flint
fallen oracle
#

Welcome.

silk flint
#

Hey

median halo
crude ore
#

I had what I expect is a common question over the last 24 hours, but I've read the announcements thread and got my answer

wide chasm
#

That's one person less for the goblins.

silk flint
#

Same, joined so I can get a ping when it’s available lol

wide chasm
#

Two*

silk flint
#

Saw there’s a swifty fan club tho so that’s nice

woven otter
#

is everyone swarming paper just to get ETA on 1.14 release?

golden gust
#

It's general release noise, really

crude ore
#

@woven otter .......no

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I came for...the...uh....

#

quickly scrolls through channels

#

Taylor Swift Fanclub

#

...wait...Taylor Swift Fanclub?!

woven otter
#

yeah

silk flint
#

Yeah yeah yeah!

unreal quarry
#

I'm not allowed in there :(

golden gust
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Heads Will Roll - length 3m 42s - 414,625 likes, 9,100 dislikes (97.9%) - 46,002,498 views - YeahYeahYeahsVEVO on 2009.11.24

crude ore
#

@unreal quarry are you Jake Peralta?

unreal quarry
#

I'm just a dude playing a dude pretending to be another dude

tropic flame
#

beautiful how it's the first time in ages that I'm downloading BuildTools again

unreal quarry
#

Don't do it! It's a trap!

#

Think of the metadatas!

tropic flame
#

nah I just wanna see what plugins from my server will blow up

unreal quarry
#

Kiss your meta goodbye if you fire up that jar ;)

tropic flame
#

what are you talking about tho

unreal quarry
#

Paper stores paper specific metadata all over the place. Loading your world in spigot loses that data

tropic flame
#

oh I'm using a separate folder for that

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I just wanna try that 1.14-pre5 build

unreal quarry
#

I'm holding out for marriage

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I mean, paper

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^_^

low crescent
static badge
#

wow a lotta joiners

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waiting for that 1.14 announcement

left yacht
#

inb4 1.14 never comes

#

back to basics boys

unreal quarry
#

It's about 5% done.

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^_^

static badge
#

most of the bitch patches are first

#

timings is rough for example :>

unreal quarry
#

^

golden gust
#

Timings is going to be fun, need to basically re-add quite a few of the timers down the line

unreal quarry
#

I wish I could see cat's face when he gets to async chunks

golden gust
#

Had a look at ChunkRegionLoader?

unreal quarry
#

I've not looked at anything yet

#

Saving myself til finished

static badge
#

yeah it looks amazing

fringe quartz
#

what'd they change?

carmine mirage
#

Is there any plugin that i can hang my friends in minecraft

#

i want to troll them

pulsar wigeon
#

let's lynch leaf

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it'll be great fun

#

👀

carmine mirage
#

whats lynch leaf

static badge
#

you're retarded

pulsar wigeon
#

thanks you too

static badge
#

ur retarded

golden gust
#

They basically cut out a lot of crud in in that class, but PlayerChunkMap is pretty much the daddy-dom of handling chunks in the server now

stuck loom
static badge
#

.g daddy-dom

limber knotBOT
static badge
#

oh

cyan steeple
void void
stiff yarrow
#

I come back to spotted googling porn

#

this googling porn trend has to stop

static badge
#

that's not porn you dum fucking retard

stiff yarrow
#

suuuure

static badge
#

ok mr i watch anime hentai every 15s of my life cuz im a filthy fucking weeaboo

stiff yarrow
#

🙄 hentai has such a low production quality

#

a true weeb would know its doujins or bust

#

get your weeb act together spotted

static badge
#

is that safe to .g

stiff yarrow
#

the word doujin means independent work

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technically it can mean making your own manga for example

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but most the time it means porn

golden gust
#

Yea, that's not a word I'd google lol

#

Well, not in public

#

:lenny

pulsar wigeon
#

doujin means circle, as in a group of people/club kinda thing

#

if we're being pedantic

coarse urchin
stiff yarrow
#

I was giving the short hand version of doujinshi, which means (same person magazine) literally, I think in this context, same person means people who have the same interests as you

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but I'm not a Japanese expert so GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

static badge
#

no filthy weeaboo is a Japanese expert

vestal jasper
#

Does minecraft really not word wrap?

static badge
#

only true Japanese experts have cancer due to hiroshima

vestal jasper
#

It just cut off a word in the middle and wrapped the second half in the next line

static badge
#

wat

vestal jasper
stiff yarrow
#

its bugged

#

that's a known existing bug

static badge
#

yeah I don't think there's word wrapping

#

it just cuts

stiff yarrow
#

its been bugged for 4+ years

vestal jasper
#

I feel like that's moreso the feature not existing at all

stiff yarrow
#

@static badge there is word wrapping it just fails to execute correctly

static badge
#

mfw

vestal jasper
#

I've never seen it execute properly tho

#

it only breaks on spaces

stiff yarrow
#

it does execute correctly some of the time

#

I believe the issue is it counts the color characters as part of its word wrap logic or some shit, because it only fails when there are color characters

#

or formatting characters

vestal jasper
pulsar wigeon
#

same person is literal yea. and when you say "people who have the same interests as you", that's what a circle is. e.g. circle of friends

#

that's the english translation

#

or, an anyway

static badge
#

god now all the new 1.14 users are going to think we're all fucking weebs

pulsar wigeon
#

but there's plenty of doujin works that aren't shi, including music, games, etc

stiff yarrow
#

yep

pulsar wigeon
#

doujinshi, as in "fan manga", is only part of that

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and the lewd stuff is yet a smaller subset of that

stiff yarrow
#

I'd almost say the lewd stuff is a large subset aPPepoRun

pulsar wigeon
#

despite being what people will think of when they hear "doujin"

#

smaller subset

#

as in, perfect subset

#

mathemetically

#

not as in a small proportion

tardy lynx
#

when's paper 1.14

stiff yarrow
#

never

#

it got cancelled

pulsar wigeon
#

after concete 1.14 comes out

#

i heard vix has a jar tho

tardy lynx
#

I don't even have a server or play minecraft but I need 1.14

pulsar wigeon
#

you need to accept jesus into your life

valid quiver
#

hey guys what would u suggest for backups: rdiff or rsnapshot?

merry talon
#

restic

vestal jasper
#

manually copying files over one by one

valid quiver
#

asdlkjasjdlaksjdlk

stiff yarrow
#

sending usb copies to Spotted in the hopes that he keeps them

wide chasm
#

I create Wikipedia drafts with the contents of my files.

stiff yarrow
#

Save copies of your files into your clipboard

#

safest place

pulsar wigeon
#

i print my entire hard drive as a series of 1s and 0s onto A4 paper

merry talon
#

and then fax that to your friend

pulsar wigeon
#

upgrading to laser printer reduced my ink costs by a whole $100000 a year

merry talon
#

offsite backups

stiff yarrow
#

then you jumble t he papers and have to figure out which combination is correct

pulsar wigeon
#

that's why i use raid, it comes with parity bits

#

each hard drive printout can be used to verify the other

#

someone please do the math on how many A4 pages it would take to print out a 1TB hard drive or so in times new roman 12pt

cedar spade
#

Border size?

static badge
#

.g how much cancer does wizjany have

limber knotBOT
merry talon
#

.wa 8e+12 / 3000

limber knotBOT
merry talon
#

~2.7 billion

valid quiver
#

What about base64?

pulsar wigeon
#

you can use the full page MD. even both sides

#

i'm just trying to backup my data, not waste paper on margins

merry talon
#

no real way to find out then

valid quiver
#

Well Times New Roman 7pt should do.

merry talon
#

let's say double that and add a half

#

wa 8e+12 / 7500

#

.wa 8e+12

pulsar wigeon
#

actually now that i think about it, a font like times new roman isn't monospace

merry talon
#

fuck

limber knotBOT
merry talon
#

.wa 8e+12 / 7500

pulsar wigeon
#

so it will probably change a lot depending on how many of my bits are 0 (more) or 1 (less)

stiff yarrow
#

@pulsar wigeon I've been tempted to print out source code before but the amount of paper and ink/toner peepoGiga

limber knotBOT
merry talon
#

well you'd want it to be monospace

pulsar wigeon
#

yea we'd have to switch fonts

merry talon
#

a stack of 1 billion sheets of paper would be 50km thick

void void
dusk cedar
void void
#

Ive an issue

#

Why does it say this

merry talon
#

looks like you're not allowed to place single chests next to eachother on that server

static badge
#

you might have

#

no permission to do so

stiff yarrow
#

I think we need TehBrian to examine this video

#

its clearly scientific proof of something

fallen wren
vestal jasper
#

have you tried getting permission to place single chests next to each other on that server?

crimson spindle
#

@void void It's caused by ProtocolSupport from what I can tell. When you place single chests next to each other it glitches out for older versions. There is a plugin you can install to disable the warning but there will be visual issues for people on versions lower than 1.13 https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/59314/

stiff yarrow
#

his name is also no permission aPPepeThink

void void
#

dont bully me

#

its already fixed btw

torpid willow
#

if you wanted a double chest, its facing the wrong way

placid dawn
void void
#

yea ik

atomic cliff
edgy pewter
small abyss
thick kiln
stiff yarrow
#

whats the point of running a 1.13 server and letting 1.8 clients connect to it

#

redpill me on that

wide chasm
#

More players can join your server, so more people can spend time on it, so your server grows and you get more money.

stiff yarrow
#

what do fish look like to a 1.8 client

static badge
#

they don't

pulsar wigeon
#

imagine getting fucked up by things your minecraft client doesn't even know exist

stiff yarrow
#

so dumb

pulsar wigeon
#

get mauled by a polar bear, "huh, it must have blended right in"

cosmic raft
#

it looks neat

pulsar wigeon
#

elsweyr?

#

it looks like a texture pack for MC

#

is that "neat"?

quasi valley
#

looks like the beta creative inv 👀

pulsar wigeon
#

it's pretty much beta creative with more world gen by the look of it

static badge
#

it is not a texture pack

#

it is a game

#

kashike

#

fuck off

pulsar wigeon
#

i realize

#

i never said it was a texture pack

static badge
#

my nick REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

pulsar wigeon
#

i said it looks like

#

you retard

static badge
#

ur retarded

quasi valley
#

ur

tranquil bone
#

@unreal quarry 👀

unreal quarry
#

caught

#

:o

tepid verge
stiff yarrow
#

idk about you guys but I'm not a fan of texture packs

#

vanilla textures are king

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

unreal quarry
#

Agreed @stiff yarrow

#

Although, faithful is alright

void void
#

the fire texture needs to be fixed

#

it obscures everything

static badge
#

fire texture is fire

void void
#

main reason why i dont use the vanilla pack

golden gust
#

I find that packs are either 'eh, or just make it hard to work out what stuff is

void void
cedar spade
#

...exactly the same?

void void
#

yeah

stiff yarrow
void void
#

yes

#

except in EVERY LANGUAGE IMAGINABLE

stiff yarrow
#

I mean its dedication to a meme

void void
#
+++++ +++++
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]
>+
[.]
#

hahahaha

stiff yarrow
#

slightly more readable than kotlin

upper flicker
#

java devs just mad they got final var instead of val

void void
#
HAI 1.2
  CAN HAS STDIO?
  
  IM IN YR nonStopE             BTW this loop is infinite
      
    BOTH SAEM "e" AN "e", O RLY?
      YA RLY
        VISIBLE "e"
      NO WAI
        VISIBLE "impossible bruh"
    OIC
    
  IM OUTTA YR nonStopE
  
KTHXBYE
static badge
#

mfw var

#

god if I see var in any paper patch z imma lose my mind

#

ill literally create a patch on concrete to remove that

upper flicker
#

well you cant use var in paper

#

so, we'd all lose our mind

static badge
#

you're going to move to j11 eventually

upper flicker
#

well once we're on 11 its all bets off

#

if there's a reason to use it, idc use it

static badge
#

wtf is this reason you're speaking of

upper flicker
#

if youre using it for like primitives or something we'd probably yell

static badge
#

probably not a fun time to replace code in nms using it

cedar spade
#
var z = 2;
upper flicker
#

I thought var compiled to its type

#

we'd never know

static badge
#

yeah it does compile to its type

#

that reminds me some dumbass decompiler will just make all variables var

upper flicker
#

you know what

static badge
#

and it'll finally be the thing that makes me die

upper flicker
#

if it solves all these dumbass fucking generics issues

static badge
#

pls no

upper flicker
#

that they all keep choking on randomly

pulsar wigeon
upper flicker
#

all good with me

stiff yarrow
#

Java has var in later versions eh

#

now we just need auto

upper flicker
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why would you need var and auto

pulsar wigeon
stiff yarrow
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@upper flicker ask C++ compilers

upper flicker
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no thanks pls

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java has enough dumb oddities without taking advice from the kitchen sink that is C++

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Doesn't dman use auto as well?

pulsar wigeon
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wait what's the difference between var and auto

stiff yarrow
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afaik nothing

pulsar wigeon
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^

stiff yarrow
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I think its literally the same

pulsar wigeon
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yea k

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only time you should use auto is in a C macro

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change my mind fuckers

stiff yarrow
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D probably uses auto since it aims for C++ like syntax

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and cancer apparently

pulsar wigeon
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declaring lamba types in c++ tho lul

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*(*int,*int*())*

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???

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pulsar wigeon
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i once read some tip about reading c type decls

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and it's like "you go in a spiral"

upper flicker
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I remember seeing something like that

stiff yarrow
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that's why you work in C++ and not C aPPepoRun

pulsar wigeon
stiff yarrow
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what the hell

pulsar wigeon
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"simple declaration", three spiral loops

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pointer to function declaration. uh ok.

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the "ultimate". yea fuck this.

stiff yarrow
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functions are just pointers

pulsar wigeon
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i mean yea they are

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no

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u

pulsar wigeon
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little bit of stack boilerplate in between that the compiler does for you

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but it's essentially "put vars on stack, move PC to address"

stiff yarrow
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I liked to program wild west style without smart pointers

pulsar wigeon
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or registers or whatever

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yeah there's registers and stack u fuk

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on loonix x86-64 most params go on registers

stiff yarrow
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don't you have to keyword that stuff

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been a while since I touched the wild west

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you're too old nossr

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that's x86 32bit

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back when we had little registers

stiff yarrow
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big thicc registers

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I'm glad I got out of c++ years ago. But then I'm sad at the same time because I got lazy with languages like Java.