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stiff yarrow
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are you saying stuff just goes on register now without keywording it

pulsar wigeon
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well iirc in C, the stackframes are an implementation detail right

unreal quarry
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No idea. Didn't advance that far before I strayed

pulsar wigeon
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in x86 all they care about is registers and call

stiff yarrow
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it makes sense but I'm still a little surprised to learn this

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guess I didn't study enough aPPepoDance

pulsar wigeon
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yea i don't remember anything either. i slept in class.

static badge
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C doesn't specify anything about a stack

pulsar wigeon
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right

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hence implementation detail

stiff yarrow
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I haven't even used the last few versions of C++

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call standards differ from OS

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i.e windows has like 4 for 32 bit

stiff yarrow
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this is the nightmare I remember PogU

pulsar wigeon
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yea well that's the compiler's problem

stiff yarrow
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I had a program where I had to do specific shit to register inputs on windows

pulsar wigeon
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it takes your C variables and dumps them into the correct registers before calling the right call

stiff yarrow
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triggered me

static badge
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there's also things like which registers does the caller preserve

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well expect to be preserved

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and which registers you can fuck around with

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did you know there are two integer return registers on linux

strange bane
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Is there any way to have IntelliJ decompile and search for usages?

stiff yarrow
pulsar wigeon
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intellij doesn't have to decompile to search for usages

stiff yarrow
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@strange bane use bytecode viewer

pulsar wigeon
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it's intelligent like that

stiff yarrow
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it has a regex search

pulsar wigeon
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wat

stiff yarrow
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I thought he was decompiling something

pulsar wigeon
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idk i think he just wants to search for usages

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decompiling seems like an extra step

strange bane
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I'm trying to search for usages of a NMS method from an IntelliJ-decompiled class.

stiff yarrow
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ctrl+shift+f should work

pulsar wigeon
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is the decompiled class in your sources

stiff yarrow
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^

upper flicker
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you can use the paper script to add missing classes, set them as a generated source, and then itll search through all of it properly

pulsar wigeon
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usually you can just use ctrl + B or ctrl alt f7 i think

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don't even need sources

upper flicker
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but yes, IJ does have problems being intelligent in some of these areas

pulsar wigeon
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search the whole classpath

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you mean

upper flicker
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still had that fuck up

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intellijent

upper flicker
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maybe its better now than it was a few versions ago

pulsar wigeon
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idk it works for me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

upper flicker
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but it certainly wasnt all that great

pulsar wigeon
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tbh it works too well for me. i need to set a custom scope

strange bane
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Actually, I'll just patch the 1.14 branch of paper and look through that.

stiff yarrow
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you need to point intelliJ to the artifact with the classes and then you need to open up that artifact in your viewer and then click the main package and hit ctrl+shift+F and then it should work

pulsar wigeon
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i always get 10 results since i have 1.8-1.13 jars on my classpath

strange bane
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I don't know how to clone branches though, guess I'll look that up. 😛

pulsar wigeon
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git clone + git checkout <branch>

upper flicker
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you check out branches

pulsar wigeon
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clone = clone entire repo

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you can't clone a single branch afaik

stiff yarrow
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you have to clone and then checkout

pulsar wigeon
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since a branch is just an object

strange bane
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Okay, tyvm.

static badge
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personally I clone, branch, pull :>

upper flicker
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personally I burn leaves

stiff yarrow
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its probably easiest to do this from a paper project in IntelliJ tbh

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instead of a plugin project

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ez setup

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ez IntelliJ already knows where the NMS classes are

pulsar wigeon
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if you add craftbukkit/paper-server (which you probably should if you're using nms) it will know too?

stiff yarrow
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the paper project already includes that stuff

static badge
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we don't dump all nms into net.minecraft.server

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in the src

stiff yarrow
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oh shit

pulsar wigeon
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yes but presumably if you want to use it from your plugin, you should do it in your plugin project

stiff yarrow
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that would require us going through and fixing decompiler issues for each class

pulsar wigeon
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instead of switching between paper and your plugin constantly to do lookups

stiff yarrow
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yeah I was gonna ask how does fernflower actually decompile the whole thing without breaking

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since it doesn't do that in bytecode viewer

void void
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Clone switch branch git fetch/pull

pulsar wigeon
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huh

void void
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fetch and pull for updates

pulsar wigeon
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first of all, pull includes fetch

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pull is fetch + merge

stiff yarrow
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if you just did checkout you don't need to

pulsar wigeon
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doing both is redundant

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and second^, if you just checked out, you have the up-to-date version of all branches

stiff yarrow
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as long as your origin is remote it will be a smart boi

pulsar wigeon
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unless someone committed a change between git clone x and cd x

static badge
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god it was a meme calm down

pulsar wigeon
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shut up you retarded furry

limber knotBOT
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I am running the most recent version of Paper, and since a few days back, the server freezes at this point: https://dpaste.de/s2PX

hard lake
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did someone say furry

limber knotBOT
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The freezes happen every now and then and they typically last for thirty seconds. Do you know what could be wrong?

upper flicker
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need the full log

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all that says is the server was trying to get something from a map when it went over

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it doesnt say thats why

pulsar wigeon
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wtf is that paste site

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i just deleted your snippet btw

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just to see if i could

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

upper flicker
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lol

pulsar wigeon
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1337 h4x0r here btw

limber knotBOT
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Hehe...

static badge
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404'd

pulsar wigeon
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going through my head "no..this couldn't possibly work...oh. wait really? f5. 404"

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thx wiz

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u fuk

pulsar wigeon
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doh

limber knotBOT
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I'm not sure if latest.log would give you anything useful, though. Most entires come from my own plugins, and it's regular stuff, like the chat.

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I'll see if I get the same error if I roll back a few versions, to build 621.

upper flicker
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mostly after the traces before that, as well as maybe 20-30 lines prior to that one

pulsar wigeon
upper flicker
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you gave us a middle dump after 25 seconds

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thats not all that useful by itself

pulsar wigeon
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wow

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i guess it reduces the need to store a separate deletion link in the db :^)

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good backend design

limber knotBOT
stiff yarrow
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lately I just ask people for their full log

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10x more useful most the time

limber knotBOT
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Hmm... "Overwrote an existing entity EntityMinecartRideable"

livid echo
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shared 1gb of ram hosting can totally support my server

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change my mind

shut fulcrum
pulsar wigeon
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well of course it can. no one's going to want to play on your server, so it won't need resources

mighty current
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damn

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thats tuff

void void
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Overkilling my server with 45gb ram(40000 usable)

stiff yarrow
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get 1288GB of RAM, put the server files on RAMDISK, cry yourself to sleep when you look at server rental costs because you didn't collocate

void void
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10Gb storage

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I am on a host

rare herald
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Oof

golden gust
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10GB of storage? ouch

livid echo
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@pulsar wigeon ur banned from my christian minecraft server

limber knotBOT
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is there 1.14 paper?

upper flicker
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no

hard lake
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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

upper flicker
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there will be when its done

rare herald
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That's my fetish

limber knotBOT
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what if im a friend with goblin slayer?

static badge
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he can't help you

limber knotBOT
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oh shit

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that's the rule around here

limber knotBOT
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i better go hide then

warped spear
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is 1.14 drastically different than 1.13, like i know it was complicate to go from 1.12 to 1.13

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md69 noted some api changes

warped spear
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i wonder how much though

upper flicker
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there are significant internal changes again

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they'll be fun to go through

upper flicker
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usually you can tell how bad it is by how long goes between releases

woven otter
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is everything broken again

upper flicker
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not as bad as 1.13

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but still plenty to dig into

tranquil bone
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What's the point of changing a lot anyway

warped spear
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rip, any new things that can make the performance better though

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to further meet visions or goals

tranquil bone
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Can't they keep it the same? I'm wondering

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I see hmm

upper flicker
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you dont want them to keep it the same

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there's plenty to be fixed and improved

static badge
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yeah 1.13 had problems

upper flicker
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a never ending list of shit that could be better

tranquil bone
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You're saying that they are changing the internals to fix bugs which are already there, correct?

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and that's why the internal changes are so much

warped spear
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minecraft needs a optimizationn update, it feels kinda bloated at this point

static badge
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needs to be rewritten

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runs

void void
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im going to take a potato chip... and eat it

tranquil bone
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Optimization?

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[20:42:42] [Server thread/WARN]: Can't keep up! Is the server overloaded? Running 56090ms or 1121 ticks behind

upper flicker
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minecraft gets changes to fix bugs, to improve performance, to add new features, to refactor stuff in order to support the above, etc

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damn even z isn't that behind

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or to decrease performance z

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looks at 1.13

upper flicker
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looks at blockpos

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just providing some examples

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:>

tranquil bone
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Now is there any reason why they don't take notes from paper?

warped spear
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they should just rewrite the server in C++ and stick a vulkan wrapper on the client

static badge
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they do take some notes

warped spear
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like they have microsoft money now

upper flicker
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they do, we've spoken with them on many occasions

woven otter
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as far as I have seen every version is worse performance wise than the previous but then again i'm that guy who uses 1.8.x daily

upper flicker
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as have forge and sponge devs

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aikar boy shoved them a bunch of his changes to async chunks for example

tranquil bone
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Oh okay, wrong assumption

upper flicker
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and devs from other communities

warped spear
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perfromance has gotten worse every update since 1.2.5

tranquil bone
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Yuck, I opened a 1.14 server for my players, crashes literally every 30 seconds haha

woven otter
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Nah I know that 1 thing improved from 1.2.5->1.3(iirc)

tranquil bone
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That's just running stock vanilla

woven otter
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it was with nether I believe

warped spear
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i got marginally better with 1.6.4-.1.7.10 but then it got drastically worse

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1.3.1 was a shit show

tranquil bone
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1.13 or 1.3?

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I can't recall 1.3

ivory sand
woven otter
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1.3 is an old version

warped spear
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yes

tranquil bone
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Ahh, okay then we're on the same page

woven otter
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1.13 wouldn't even make sense in that context

warped spear
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i am saying as someone who has played since alpha performance after minecraft 1.2.5 ha gotten worse

woven otter
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1.2.5 had an issue with nether being laggy

tranquil bone
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I see

woven otter
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i think it was nether

upper flicker
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I mean infdev also ran really well

tranquil bone
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Well, it's a great freaking game, but I really hope they take the time one day to really sit down and do some performance tweaking, it's needed

upper flicker
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it just didnt do anything

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and as much as pretty much everyone here would like to see them use one of these massive year long updates on fixing performance issues

warped spear
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like they could make java run well its just not easy

upper flicker
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its not going to happen because the rest of the community bitches and moans if they dont get a new block

static badge
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that's why you try both :>

upper flicker
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they did try both with 1.14

tranquil bone
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That's true, I see myself in that position too

upper flicker
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it appears better than 1.13

static badge
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yeah ik

upper flicker
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its still probably not amazing

woven otter
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well at least for server side we have Paper

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clientside you got forge with 1000 mods

upper flicker
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I mean the 1.13 and 1.14 clients ran really well for me

static badge
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all leaking memory

upper flicker
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better than 1.12

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taking 6mins to startup

upper flicker
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but I know some people had the opposite experience

woven otter
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6 mins

upper flicker
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and old gpus especially are having a really bad time

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so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

woven otter
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only 6 minutes on a lucky day

tranquil bone
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Minecraft the new rust with these startup times?

warped spear
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be nice if they got the dude who makes optifine as a official part of minecraft

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like just higher that guy

woven otter
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but forge mods are in a bad state. it's true about the memory leaking part

tranquil bone
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Well thank you for your hard work @upper flicker surely doesn't go unnoticed

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Hopefully we can have a nice and good release soon

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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

robust quest
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heh

woven otter
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you should look at the contributor list as well

vestal jasper
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1.12: 23000 TPS when performing certain actions
1.13: 730 TPS when performing certain actions
1.14: 820 TPS when performing certain actions

tranquil bone
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Where is that?

vestal jasper
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it's better than 1.13 yes but it still sucks

hard lake
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1.14 is shit

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it can't render properly

woven otter
vestal jasper
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A polished turd is still a turd

void void
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Hi celeb

robust quest
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Hi

woven otter
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though some of those contributions come from upstream

vestal jasper
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Hi Nya

woven otter
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most notably md-5

void void
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Everyone from SpigotMC is here?

unreal quarry
robust quest
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Only the ones that matter.

vestal jasper
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md_5 isn't in here

woven otter
tranquil bone
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Heck yeah, that's awesome, didn't know that

vestal jasper
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Who is Thinkofname

unreal quarry
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He did the 1.8 update for CB and Spigot

void void
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aikar is Number one

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bad link

robust quest
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Awww, I want No Table 😦

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xD

tranquil bone
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very bad link

woven otter
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what do you mean very good link

vestal jasper
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289587909051416579

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that link isn't even for this server

woven otter
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it's for forge

vestal jasper
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@kashike Will be in charge of this room.

woven otter
vestal jasper
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kashike are there even MC discords where you're not in charge of something?

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other than the official one

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and concrete

woven otter
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there is discord for concrete

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?

vestal jasper
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yes

cosmic raft
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I mean I do have an elevated role in the official guild

vestal jasper
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..

cosmic raft
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but I'm not in charge of anything there

vestal jasper
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You're in charge of the sponge server, you're a project dev in here, you're in charge of a channel in forge

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you're in charge of #adorable-pets

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!!

cosmic raft
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eigencraft, mcp, velocity

vestal jasper
zenith shoal
woven otter
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) ✓@elonmusk (Elon Musk): 🦆 (25 days and 15 hours ago)

valid quiver
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hey guys long time no see, I've almost started bulking up A4 to back up my data, but I need another piece of advice. Sometimes my sql connection breaks. I.e. plugin can't contact mysql with Connection timed out (Connection timed out) -> The last packet sent successfully to the server was 0 milliseconds ago. The driver has not received any packets from the server. -> Communications link failure.

Also I have weird stuff when I try to verbose mysql:

mysqld: Can't change dir to '/var/lib/mysql/' (Errcode: 13 - Permission denied)
2019-04-24T21:02:11.182183Z 0 [Warning] Changed limits: max_open_files: 65535 (requested 100000)```
How do I fix that?
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This happens with various plugins which use MySQL.

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Restarting server fixies it for some time.

stiff yarrow
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@robust quest no table is given to devs who constantly nag Z about it in DMs

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he loves when people slide into his DMs

unreal quarry
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Protip: that's a lie ^

valid quiver
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damn, I wanted to discuss leftist politics with Z for awhile.

stiff yarrow
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why would I lie

void void
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What will happen if md_5 join?

vestal jasper
stiff yarrow
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I don't even think md_5 has anything other than IRC installed on his computer

tranquil bone
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lol

woven otter
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time to slide into Zs dms

vestal jasper
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I wouldn't be surprised if he contacts through IRC by carrier pidgeon

void void
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I saw md_5 only on IRC

vestal jasper
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I also wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't even use an IDE and does everything in vi

stiff yarrow
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he instructs an aboriginal person from the outback to type for him using the sacred bones of a baby roo

unreal quarry
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He used netbeans (ewww)

stiff yarrow
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netbeans monkaSHAKE

unreal quarry
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(at least it's better than eclipse)

stiff yarrow
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how dare you insult the great IDE known as eclipse

unreal quarry
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runs

void void
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Intellij IDEA: 🤔

stiff yarrow
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the last time I used netbeans was in 2012 or 2011 I think

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maybe its gotten better but it sucked back then

vestal jasper
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He uses an owl to carry a hand written letter created via feather and ink which is then flown to japan where they digitally scan it, send it off to europe, and then someone sends the message in IRC

golden gust
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@valid quiver mysql data files are stored with the mysql user, you'd need to run it as the mysql user

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What's in the client logs exactly? There should generally be a useful message hiding in the noise

unreal quarry
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Fun fact: md_5 hates intellij so much that he gave out free voice in his irc to anyone proving to use netbeans

vestal jasper
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I know he's not completely alright but this is next level

fallen oracle
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Is that significant or something?

unreal quarry
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Voice in irc is like no table here

stiff yarrow
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gonna have to sign any PRs commits with edited in netbeans

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can we really prove that these guys don't have tables though

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I need picture proof

robust quest
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Oh yeah @stiff yarrow. Awesome. I won't ask, but I will make that announcement to all others that ask. Just make sure to tell Z that Nossr sent them. 😃

stiff yarrow
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you can take anything I say as literal fact with no sarcasm

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I only speak in truths

vestal jasper
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LOL

robust quest
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😛

vestal jasper
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OK SURE

valid quiver
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@golden gust Okay, no suspicious logs from root. Got any idea from logs?

zenith tide
golden gust
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(X) Doubt

robust quest
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Although, congratz on moderator I suppose. That must have been recent.

vestal jasper
golden gust
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Your server logs indicate that your network is broken in general

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Might wanna check dmesg/your system logs

stiff yarrow
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One day I looked and my nickname color was downgraded @robust quest

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they must have sought to punish me

valid quiver
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[5240629.847828] device enp1s0 left promiscuous mode
[5240631.718924] device enp1s0 entered promiscuous mode
[5269591.085804] device enp1s0 left promiscuous mode
[6131456.505610] audit: type=1400 audit(1556141088.888:24): apparmor="DENIED" operation="capable" profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" pid=11184 comm="mysqld" capability=2  capname="dac_read_search"
[6131456.515106] audit: type=1400 audit(1556141088.896:25): apparmor="DENIED" operation="capable" profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" pid=11184 comm="mysqld" capability=2  capname="dac_read_search"```
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🤔

unreal quarry
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Grow a beard

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*magnificent beard

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Lol

golden gust
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Where is your mysql server running?

lavish lichen
unreal quarry
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That's how I feel

lavish lichen
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Oof

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Hi billy

unreal quarry
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Hello ^_^

woven otter
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PaperSpigotLover2006

limber knotBOT
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@woven otter [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

unreal quarry
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I shave about once every few years or so

lavish lichen
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Korobi get out

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We get it now

valid quiver
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On the same machine as my other servers. OVH.

upper flicker
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korobi loves you

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you will love it back or korobi will make you love it

lavish lichen
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Tbh i love that bot

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PaperSpigot

limber knotBOT
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@lavish lichen [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

lavish lichen
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;)

unreal quarry
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I want a wizard beard. But it gets to hobo length and stops

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:(

upper flicker
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Im also 99% sure kashike uses it to siphon all our data and build models off it or sell it to people

lavish lichen
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Btw when was it changed to paper

upper flicker
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1.9

lavish lichen
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Oh damn

upper flicker
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Its been called Paper now

valid wigeon
upper flicker
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for longer than it was called PaperSpijit

lavish lichen
static badge
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logged

unreal quarry
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Should update korobis msg to include "it hasn't been called that since 1.8"

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Bring shame to these ppl

lavish lichen
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Xd

upper flicker
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BOT Korobi: [Auto] listen ere u lil fuk

static badge
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lotta people use 1.8

limber knotBOT
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@spare venture [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

lavish lichen
stiff yarrow
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@spare venture write a bot analyzing pepe usage guild wise Kappa

lavish lichen
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Fact

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My fork is called SportPaper

golden gust
woven otter
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i don't like change I still run classic with protocol hack

lavish lichen
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Selfbot

stiff yarrow
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I bet you like Alchemy too aPPepoRun

lavish lichen
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Banned

unreal quarry
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He already got rid of the kraken. Don't push him or he'll take alchemy from us

golden gust
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Yea, idk how dey managed 2 mek sumthin wors dan dat original mcmmo dev

lavish lichen
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whats mcmmo

upper flicker
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I heard that when that guy came back he removed mcmmo's greatest feature

lavish lichen
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Can i eat that

upper flicker
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the mcmmo kraken

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what a jerk

woven otter
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whats alchemy

hard lake
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hi

stiff yarrow
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I wish I could delete Alchemy

hard lake
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its papermc o clock

stiff yarrow
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I'd probably get hanged

lavish lichen
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If paper goes i riot my work

golden gust
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I mean

robust quest
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new fishing mechanic too clean. Random AF Kraken pls

golden gust
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If there is no kraken in mcmmo, is there really any point to updating paper?

stiff yarrow
valid quiver
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@golden gust dmesg looks okay, no regular new messages.

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[Thu Apr 25 00:27:49 2019] audit: type=1400 audit(1556141088.896:25): apparmor="DENIED" operation="capable" profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" pid=11184 comm="mysqld" capability=2  capname="dac_read_search"
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stiff yarrow
#

I'll have to add in the kraken that only spawns and attacks paper devs

lavish lichen
#

Updating paper

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What a joke

robust quest
#

enable-mcmmo: true

livid echo
#

?????

lavish lichen
#

Wtf

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LMAO

golden gust
#

That was probably you trying to run mysql from the wrong user

woven otter
#

🤔

lavish lichen
#

@livid echo i see whats wrong

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U need paper in order to join!!

golden gust
#

Try clicking refresh

lavish lichen
#

Bad joke. Oktybai

livid echo
#

i did

static badge
#

I've seen that happen before and it's a client side issue

livid echo
#

still memed

valid quiver
#

Where else do I look for my network issues?

lavish lichen
#

Mom! he broke it again

golden gust
#

Paper will show as the wrong version until it starts ticking, as we don't get that version info until it starts

livid echo
#

still b1g meme

valid quiver
#

damn

lavish lichen
#

FLATFILE

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YUCK

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MONGO <O/

valid quiver
#

that kind of answer I was actually expecting after suggestion of printing my backups

golden gust
#

Well, I do question why you're seemingly running mysql over the network itself

lavish lichen
#

Also

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Elec

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Why is the option for end

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In a diff file

valid quiver
#

I need to access mysql from another server as well.

golden gust
#

All of our stuff is patch files

lavish lichen
#

And not where nether is

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Like where u disable or enable nether

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End is in a diff file

strong matrix
lavish lichen
#

Like why

golden gust
#

Wasn't one of those in spigot.yml?

lavish lichen
#

Yea

golden gust
#

And, all of bukkit/spigot/paper is patch files

stiff yarrow
#

SQL is like 34 years old, can't trust it Kappa

golden gust
#

Well, *craftbukkit

lavish lichen
#

Im talking about config files

livid echo
#

pffff

lavish lichen
#

@spare venture so is maria

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MDB

livid echo
#

not using minetest

lavish lichen
#

<o/

golden gust
#

Guys, lets face it

indigo cloud
stiff yarrow
#

minecraft had a flattening update and flatfile is already flat so they are more compatible

golden gust
#

The only good way to store files is on a multi-volume floppy disk setup

stiff yarrow
golden gust
#

Just gotta keep your most used ones nearby

lavish lichen
#

EXACTLY

livid echo
#

quake 1 > paper spigot

golden gust
#

Also, if you wanna watch a movie, might wanna ensure that you grab it from the collection ahead of time

lavish lichen
#

Good old floppys

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I miss them

valid quiver
#

@golden gust could u suggest something a little bit less edgy to debug my network issues? I have no idea about what my real issue is other than "network is derp".

stiff yarrow
#

edgy? peepoGiga

golden gust
#

Not really, best I can suggest is pointing winmtr or something at your server and seeing where/how it derps

limber knotBOT
#

@c​ol​um​b did you try a traceroute yet to see if it maybe takes some strange path?

hard lake
#

whag problwm

valid quiver
#

they don't

golden gust
#

You have /boot, / and /home

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/boot and / being seperate are fine, the home partition is a bit dumb for a server, however

limber knotBOT
#

afaik you can select that when you setup the server

stiff yarrow
#

apparently OVH doesn't allocate free space in a nice way as I learned recently

golden gust
#

You'll have other mounts from the OS itself, such as /dev, /proc and /sys

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(as well as a ramdisk generally in /var/run, or some other /run dir, and potentially a /tmp in ramdisk)

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Linux is fun \o/

limber knotBOT
#

(all my ovh servers are just everyone on one partition ¯_(ツ)_/¯)

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*everything

golden gust
#

I keep /boot seperate

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Though, I generally like using btrfs these days

hard lake
#

I btrfs a good idea for ubuntu?

potent warren
#

what's the best way to sync with an upstream fork without making a lot of commits? 🤔

stiff yarrow
#

merge

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merge is a single commit

golden gust
#

Will inline the other commits, not sure if that's what you're trying to avoid or not

potent warren
#

TIL that I'm bad at git

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sigh

stiff yarrow
#

I was accidentally rebasing to pull downstream for a while

fallen fable
potent warren
#

5 commits...

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3 are for merge branch

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I'm that bad 🤦

limber knotBOT
#

I mean you can rewrite your git history if you make errors xD

potent warren
#

too late

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also, it's a PR

stiff yarrow
#

you can rebase it but its not wise to do that on master

potent warren
#

I didn't want to break the history of everything

limber knotBOT
#

well I guess one would squash such a PR anways ¯_(ツ)_/¯

golden gust
#

Yea, just have them squash + commit

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^^

valid quiver
#

@wheat quarry I have no idea how traceroute could help me. I've tried tracert my server, got a few timeouts. before final hopes.

stiff yarrow
#

I learned recently to spank PRs that have a messy commit history

unreal quarry
#

@golden gust why you here and not working? :O

potent warren
golden gust
#

your only other option would basically be to squash it manually and force push, but that would break anybody else who checked out the repo

limber knotBOT
#

@c​ol​um​b the fact that you are getting timeouts should already be a cause for worries...

potent warren
#

@golden gust That's what I'm trying to avoid 😄

golden gust
#

You're just going to have to accept the merge commits, let the people pulling it in deal with it

stiff yarrow
#

as long as you're in a branch you can do silly stuff but in master you're gonna trigger some people

potent warren
#

inb4 I used an incorrect term

stiff yarrow
#

although if you have 0 forks feel free to rebase

potent warren
#

lmao

valid wigeon
#

Hey guys

golden gust
#

PEOPLE ARE HERE, RUN

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skids out of the room

stiff yarrow
#

not enough

valid wigeon
#

I am not a person. People socialize outside of the house

stiff yarrow
#

if it were up to me a pepe would be required per message

vernal hollow
valid wigeon
#

:PPepoPooPoo:

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I can't 😭

stiff yarrow
#

here you go

static badge
#

LUL

limber knotBOT
#

🤔

valid wigeon
#

wot

unreal quarry
#

Who got it that time?

stiff yarrow
#

I get the vibe spotted took it again

static badge
#

the vibe? :>

potent warren
#

Spotted already had Nitro iirc

stiff yarrow
#

you can redeem with a subscription active

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afaik

#

it just gives you more time

potent warren
unreal quarry
#

This could become a tradition @stiff yarrow.. nossr's weekly nitro giveaway

stiff yarrow
#

gotta help those pepes in need

static badge
#

and yes I did rob it

stiff yarrow
#

I knew it

static badge
#

and yes it does give you more time

stiff yarrow
#

it had an evil aura

potent warren
#

lmao

cosmic raft
#

it doesn't let you though

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Oops! You're unable to accept this gift because you're already subscribed to Nitro Classic.

stiff yarrow
#

well that's because you're on a higher plan

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it would be a downgrade for you

upper flicker
#

Nitro classic is the lowest though

cosmic raft
#

I'm on classic

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lol

stiff yarrow
#

oh

lavish lichen
#

Hi kashike

stiff yarrow
#

I thought classic was that founders shit

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thanks for the purchase HmmCoffeeSmile

static badge
#

LUL

valid wigeon
#

no you payed for the sub that spottedleaf got

woven otter
#

I'm a duck therefore I'm entitled to nitro gift

stiff yarrow
valid wigeon
#

DAMNIT

woven otter
#

oof

cosmic raft
#

gooodness nossr

pulsar wigeon
#

dirty premium money

unreal quarry
#

Almost :(

woven otter
#

same 😦

stiff yarrow
#

one day you'll be in the kingdom of pepes billy

lavish lichen
#

Nossr has too much money

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What

potent warren
#

^^

woven otter
#

what about ducks

unreal quarry
#

I took your first one, nossr :p

stiff yarrow
#

Oh yeah that's right

woven otter
#

wow

potent warren
#

wow

lavish lichen
#

LOL

woven otter
#

they go so fast

unreal quarry
#

makes bot to auto acceptnitro gifts

lavish lichen
#

HMM

potent warren
#

@stiff yarrow did you already spend 30$ on nitro gifts?

stiff yarrow
#

today

valid wigeon
stiff yarrow
#

yes

woven otter
#

40$

valid wigeon
#

much love nossr ❤

potent warren
#

50$

stiff yarrow
#

I think I only bought 3 copies today

potent warren
#

use more

cosmic raft
#

"only"

valid wigeon
#

:aPPepoRun:

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rip

woven otter
#

need 7 more

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to hit 100$

unreal quarry
#

Inb4 nossr goes broke and become homeless because of nitro gifts

woven otter
#

wow what

upper flicker
#

nossr, formerly doing quite well with his mcmmo dollarydoos

#

goes broke after discord nitro gifting spree in paper discord

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more at eleven

potent warren
#

oof

stiff yarrow
lavish lichen
#

Nossr

static badge
#

wow they're going fast

upper flicker
#

there's like 1600 people in here or something

static badge
#

people are readying the mouse

lavish lichen
#

Can u send one in dms. I want to make my friend happy

upper flicker
#

and he's just throwing in gift links

woven otter
static badge
#

they smell free nitro

woven otter
#

yay

#

@stiff yarrow ❤

stiff yarrow
potent warren
#

@woven otter gg

unreal quarry
#

\o/

stiff yarrow
#

but can you prove you don't have a table

lavish lichen
#

Nossr

woven otter
#

what's a table

valid quiver
#

what is table

stiff yarrow
#

I'm not made of nitro gift subs boys

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I can only afford so many

potent warren
#

(X)

stiff yarrow
lavish lichen
#

@stiff yarrow can i get one in dms so i can make my fwiend happy

stiff yarrow
#

part of the excitement is having to click on it faster than other people

potent warren
#

People are expecting gifts

woven otter
#

well noone is leaving this chat now lol

unreal quarry
#

Do it when no one expects it

lavish lichen
#

Who clicks it

upper flicker
#

nossr has become the guild's sugar daddy in the course of like 10 minutes

valid wigeon
#

hahahah

potent warren
#

^^

unreal quarry
#

Lol z

lavish lichen
#

@unreal quarry im on mobile

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So i can be the fast one

stiff yarrow
#

I've spent quite a lot of money on other people lately aPPepeThink

valid wigeon
#

The pepe is gracious

unreal quarry
#

Buying friends is still okay ;)

lavish lichen
#

I want to hookup my fwiend with it

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But im slow to get it

stiff yarrow
#

you can for 10 dollars

#

the only reason I make mcMMO is to give pepes

lavish lichen
#

Wait

#

U made mcmmo?

unreal quarry
#

Yes

potent warren
#

lmao

stiff yarrow
lavish lichen
#

IM GONNA DL IT RN

stiff yarrow
potent warren
#

random pin message

unreal quarry
#

We can pin?! :O

stiff yarrow
#

my legacy

unreal quarry
#

OMG I'm going to start pinning more

woven otter
#

Pin this message

potent warren
#

Pin me daddy.

lavish lichen
#

Pin dis if ur a legend

potent warren
#

😭

woven otter
#

wrong pin

stiff yarrow
#

you only get pinned for saying dank memes

#

sorry boys

unreal quarry
woven otter
#

Elon Dusk

#

yes

potent warren
#

my life.

woven otter
#

ty

lavish lichen
#

Nossr is a dank meme itself

woven otter
#

oh

#

rude

unreal quarry
#

^_^

safe mason
unreal quarry
#

rubs hands together smiling

orchid pelican
#

they should rename it to sticky notes

upper flicker
#

thats why

woven otter
safe mason
#

Does't work tho..

woven otter
#

that's not very descriptive

orchid pelican
#

do you got 15 cars?

stiff yarrow
#

how do we know they don't have a second table

#

we need some scientific proof, like a youtube video verified by @austere ivy

#

if I don't see pepes in these gifted nitro sub messages I'm gonna cry

potent warren
#

I would use them but I don't have nitro

#

lmfao

stiff yarrow
lone pecan
potent warren
#

Here's normal emotes since I can't afford Nitro :D 😄 🤔 😏 😦 😉 😐 🤦 😮 😛 👍 👋

woven otter
#

Rename this project to Peper

valid wigeon
stiff yarrow
valid wigeon
#

🐸 here is my pepe

potent warren
#

🐸 🐸 🐸 🐸 🐸 🐸

lavish lichen
#

Nossr its laye for coffee

#

Late*

stiff yarrow
#

I gotta go work on mcMMO now to pay off this pepe debt

lavish lichen
#

Also how big is ur chair

stiff yarrow
lavish lichen
#

So many codes from 1 chair

woven otter
#

Make mcmmo great again

valid wigeon
#

Gotta love the kraken

lavish lichen
#

Whats kraken

valid wigeon
#

Kraken took the freaking kids

unreal quarry
#

Don't worry, if he doesn't bring back kraken I'm making an add-on plugin that does ;)

fading ibex
stiff yarrow
#

if the kraken had a pepe body I'd put it back in

upper flicker
#

what if you re-add the kraken

#

but remove alchemy

#

and when people complain, you just feed them to the kraken

#

win/win/win

potent warren
#

@stiff yarrow were you the poster of mcmmo on blackspigot? lmfao

stiff yarrow
#

removing alchemy would cause a riot by the people who don't understand its actually a half assed skill that barely does anything

#

@potent warren aPPepeHacker

strange bane
#

Spigot PlayerPortalEvent's new implementation (1.14-pre5) is bugged but I feel like I have better luck getting it fixed on Paper 1.14 than if I report the bug to Spigot now. 😛

#

I'll report it anyway, maybe it's not too minor.

safe mason
#

also, paperclip 1613

limber knotBOT
#

@safe mason It needs to be updated to 1.9 or something

#

this is a pretty old change

potent warren
stiff yarrow
safe mason
#

I'm sorry I don't quite understand. What needs to be updated to 1.9?

limber knotBOT
#

the plugin is using old api methods that have been changed a couple versions ago

unreal quarry
#

@spare venture get with the times, imagine dragons is the new nickleback now

crystal compass
#

md_5 seems lowkey salty about paper

unreal quarry
#

Yes

stiff yarrow
#

that's a mouthful

robust quest
#

Heh, Nossr50 mutual friend, WifiSpy.

safe mason
#

Oh got you. The problem is that I can't seem to compile the plugin when I clone it with git for some reason.

austere ivy
#

who tag

potent warren
#

oof

woven otter
#

well paper is slowly taking over spigot

austere ivy
#

@stiff yarrow why did you tag me

stiff yarrow
#

@robust quest daddy needed his mcMMO flair

valid wigeon
#

you can't be taken over by a fork of your own project if you fork the fork

austere ivy
#

wait nossr you work on mcmmo?

unreal quarry
#

That'd be some shit, jmull

austere ivy
#

huh

robust quest
#

I think I have access to the premium plugs on BSMC. So I don't have to buy McMMO v2? thinkfish

stiff yarrow
#

@robust quest you know mcMMO is open source right

robust quest
#

Though, I didn't ask for the premium or whatever.

stiff yarrow
austere ivy
#

well that's interesting, nossr

robust quest
#

The new one is? Oh.

unreal quarry
#

The new old one?

stiff yarrow
#

its been open source for 8 years

unreal quarry
#

Or the old new one?

stiff yarrow
woven otter
#

no mcmmo is not open source

#

buy the plugin

austere ivy
#

w long have you been working on mcmmo o-O

#

how*

unreal quarry
#

Everytime someone buys mcmmo someone gets pepes

robust quest
#

Always buy.

stiff yarrow
#

ever since I took out the kraken 😛

robust quest
#

cool for offering a non-paywall.

stiff yarrow
#

@robust quest you can compile it, I link to the jenkins in #links on my discord

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jenkins is provided by andrew so its not super official

robust quest
#

Oh, I'm not in McMMO Discord.

upper flicker
#

one of them is on paper's jenkins as well

#

dont tell nossr

stiff yarrow
upper flicker
#

I dont remember if its overhaul or the original

stiff yarrow
#

doesn't really bother me

austere ivy
#

you're a funny person, nossr

upper flicker
#

@stiff yarrow goddammit I said not to tell nossr

austere ivy
#

tell nossr what

stiff yarrow
#

there's a reason why I "leak" my own plugin

potent warren
#

lmfao

woven otter
#

why is it on paper jenkins feelsThinkingMan

robust quest
#

ForceOP injected on all downloads but Spigot.

#

😈

stiff yarrow
#

its the same binary

potent warren
#

@stiff yarrow tell us the reason.

stiff yarrow
#

@potent warren because I get to control distribution

valid wigeon
#

I'll bet nossr gets his mcmmo versions from the leaks. He doesn't even buy his own plugin and expects us to pay for it thinkingtriggered

stiff yarrow
#

otherwise people could put sketchy shit into the leaks

potent warren
#

oh

#

You're right

tardy lynx
#

paperspigot

limber knotBOT
#

@tardy lynx [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

woven otter
#

he includes bitcoin miners in the plugin

potent warren
#

Are there other devs of premium plugins that do that too? 🤔

unreal quarry
#

Inb4 kraken is for premium downloads only

#

runs

idle moss
#

hi

stiff yarrow
#

I'd recommend just compiling mcMMO yourself instead of getting it from sketch third party sites since its effortless to compile

woven otter
#

@potent warren I might be wrong but I think there was a faction plugin doing that

idle moss
#

is there actually an unironic taylor swift fan club

#

in this server

austere ivy
#

yeah

valid wigeon
#

Tidal knows too much

idle moss
#

holy crap...

austere ivy
#

talk to DemonWav about that

#

he likes it when you ping him

idle moss
#

i don't know if i wanna stay.....................................................

austere ivy
#

she?

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

why is everyone here so mysterious o-o

robust quest
#

You are asking the right questions, or are you?

potent warren
#

Would Kyle Wood be the name of a "she"? thonk

ancient bolt
#

the fuck you say

valid wigeon
#

LOL

idle moss
#

me irl

ancient bolt
#

im not male

stiff yarrow
#

time to lighten the mood

ancient bolt
#

don't assume my gender

idle moss
#

OH MY GFOD

upper flicker
#

forget the pepe tracking bot

idle moss
#

I DIDN'T CLICK THE FUCKING ACCEPT BUTTON

upper flicker
#

going to need a nossr discord gift tracking bot

idle moss
#

I CLICKED AROUND IT

#

GOD DAMN IT

austere ivy
#

they're a they

idle moss
#

R U SERIOUS......................

austere ivy
#

sorry dw, just habit

potent warren
#

who stole it now

#

lmao

robust quest
#

Does it work if you already Nitro?

woven otter
#

lel

idle moss
#

i thought it was an image file

#

to be fair

#

idk why...

potent warren
#

I think you're basically stealing it to someone who doesn't have it

austere ivy
#

the ONE SECOND I leave the discord server

ancient bolt
#

if you want nitro just buy it

austere ivy
#

"if you want a yacht just buy it"

robust quest
#

Just give it time. Nossr is going to drop 4 more here shortly.

potent warren
#

lmao

ancient bolt
#

nitro is $10

idle moss
#

mine was worse i could've had it but i clicked around the damn accept button so discord brought me to like

#

the nitro page

austere ivy
#

yachts are $1000000

#

what's the diffrence

stiff yarrow
#

I don't have t hat kind of money @robust quest

austere ivy
#

they're all too much for me haha ;'D

ancient bolt
#

@idle moss do you have a problem with taylor swift?

austere ivy
#

GOSH DARN IT

static badge
#

robbed

valid wigeon
#

DAMN I LOOKED AWAY

idle moss
#

oh god NO

austere ivy
#

I chatted and clicked on my name, haha.

idle moss
#

and maybe..... demonwav

static badge
#

can't beat the leaf in mouse games

potent warren
stiff yarrow
#

does that mean leaf has redeemed 3 of them

potent warren
#

At least don't be a cunt and let other people get it lmao

static badge
#

yes technically :>

idle moss
#

i'm sad..................

woven otter
#

well I think you are all up for a long night

ancient bolt
#

i hope leaf has redeemed them all

austere ivy
#

me trying to make a wheelchair:

stiff yarrow
#

time to hang leaf

static badge
#

2 today and 1 from the other day

austere ivy
ancient bolt
#

so he's 3 times ad shit

robust quest
#

Naw, I recall you starting a Spigot thread asking to have a rank above the $500 Patron

#

You has money,

#

😛

valid wigeon
#

i clicked on the image..

stiff yarrow
woven otter
#

what do you mean from the other day feelsThinkingMan

static badge
#

this isn't nossr's first rodeo

woven otter
#

how often does nossr gifts nitros

stiff yarrow
#

I would never start a spigot thread asking for ranks higher than 500 dollars MonkaT

austere ivy
#

So nossr, how long did it take for you to learn how to code.. properly?

idle moss
#

this is depressing.....

stiff yarrow
lavish lichen
#

Or nossr has to much money

austere ivy
#

I CLICKED ACCEPT.

#

AND THEN I NEEDED TO CLICK AGAIN!?

idle moss
#

WHY DO I NEED TO CLICK TWICE

woven otter
#

yes

idle moss
#

OH MY GOD...................

ancient bolt
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@austere ivy are you saying he actually has learned?

idle moss
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THIS is giving me a heart attack

austere ivy
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More than me, Demon.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

stiff yarrow
potent warren
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How's tho

stiff yarrow
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@austere ivy it took me a long time because I learned the hard way

potent warren
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*this even possible

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lmao

robust quest
austere ivy
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What's the hard way?

woven otter
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@potent warren o g

stiff yarrow
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the hard way is without books

idle moss
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:-(

ancient bolt
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no

potent warren
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@stiff yarrow Thanks. ❤ Now give one to tidal too ❤

stiff yarrow
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then I learned about books

ancient bolt
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the hard way is without computers

austere ivy
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Typewriters.

idle moss
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awww nick...

austere ivy
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pieces of paper.

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feed it into compiling machine.

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get output on another piece of paper.

stiff yarrow
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idk if I post another one spotted just steals it

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100%

brittle tinsel
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I'm sorry for this, but I needed to share. Mainly because I'm procrastinating

static badge
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perhaps

ancient bolt
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idk if you're being intentional or not

austere ivy
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time to put my PyAutoGUI skills to the test

potent warren
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just DM it to the person

lavish lichen
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Nossr i call it hacks

ancient bolt
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but @austere ivy that's literally how it used to be done

idle moss
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i'll love taylor swift for one full day

austere ivy
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Yeah I know, and that's hardmode lol.

stiff yarrow
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going into someone's DMs 🤢

potent warren
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😦

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lavish lichen
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Uhoh

austere ivy
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I don't think anyone here could be able to program the way they did back then.

stiff yarrow
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🙄

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Brian can you just stop saying stupid shit all the time

static badge
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nossr doesn't really want to feel like he's playing favourites

ancient bolt
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they weren't writing java back then

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lmao

austere ivy
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I dunno, it's a pretty different workflow.

static badge
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so he puts it in chat :>

ancient bolt
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you're right java would be really hard

unreal quarry
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When is back then? Cuz I started in 1995 :p

austere ivy
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1679

stiff yarrow
lavish lichen
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Hm

ancient bolt
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@unreal quarry 70s

idle moss
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ugh

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i give up

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thanks for trying

potent warren
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Don't give up.

static badge
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wow who's robbing them

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ur fucking fast

woven otter
potent warren
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@static badge is it you?

austere ivy
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Demon you started programming in the 70s!?

valid wigeon
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nossr you could send send a fake dm to leaf and then send one here

void void
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nossr can you just give me one, i tried really hard to click it but i have the big austrlian latency

idle moss
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i live in asia so i'm at a ping disadvantage either way

static badge
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.g fastest shooter in the west meme

idle moss
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oh

lavish lichen
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I BET SOMEONE HAS A BOT FOR IT

limber knotBOT
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ancient bolt
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I exist outside of time

robust quest
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Dropping a Nitro gift in a DM is like breaking open a piñata in a room with only one person. There is no entertainment without the panic and eye gouging.

stiff yarrow
austere ivy
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That's jazz baby!

void void
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fock

unreal quarry
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OMG I was instant and still missed it

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Wth

void void
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i got the modal that time

static badge
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fastest draw in the west

unreal quarry
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I call aimbot hacks!

static badge
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who got that one

ancient bolt
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I need to write a discord bot to auto-accept those

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so no one gets it

austere ivy
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D:<

potent warren
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That's cheating 😦

austere ivy
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You can just use pyautogui.

woven otter
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reports DemonWav for self-botting

austere ivy
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

stiff yarrow
lone pecan
static badge
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ur card company might not like that nossr