#general

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wintry breach
old jay
cedar spade
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1.13 support when

livid echo
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you're a little late

tropic flame
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beta 1.7.3 please

old jay
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Yo

wintry breach
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1.8 out? pogchamp

austere ivy
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Support for rubydung when

livid echo
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support for ms-dos when?

hard lake
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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

gloomy sphinx
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.1.14

limber knotBOT
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(Korobi) Europe - The Final Countdown (Official Video) - length 4m 56s - 2,545,966 likes, 113,408 dislikes (95.7%) - 622,418,902 views - EuropeVEVO on 2009.10.25

livid echo
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support for quake 1

hard lake
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wtf is this

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get out

tropic flame
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support for infiniminer

gloomy sphinx
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.1.15

limber knotBOT
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(Korobi) Charlie Puth - "How Long" [Official Video] - length 3m 31s - 3,145,259 likes, 93,077 dislikes (97.1%) - 506,225,606 views - Charlie Puth on 2017.10.19

livid echo
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where the heck does steam install proton games in

gloomy sphinx
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.1.16

limber knotBOT
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(Korobi) *NSYNC - Tearin' Up My Heart (Official Music Video) - length 3m 29s - 153,711 likes, 6,313 dislikes (96.1%) - 44,009,211 views - NSYNCVEVO on 2009.10.25

tropic flame
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oh damn

gloomy sphinx
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.2

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confirmed paper roadmap ends at 1.16

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future is sponge and taco spigot

livid echo
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smh yall still playing minecraft while im here playing minetest

gloomy sphinx
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minetest has better graphics

livid echo
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and its foss

unreal quarry
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Papertale when?

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runs

hard lake
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It's not floss

tropic flame
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ew Sponge

livid echo
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quakespasm fucked up my resolution

worn ember
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HyPaper

hard lake
tropic flame
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@unreal quarry that sounds like a server software for Undertale tho

worn ember
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undertale is big gey

unreal quarry
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Never heard of it

safe mason
hard lake
worn ember
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using eclipse

livid echo
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the problem is eclipse

hard lake
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^

safe mason
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thanks buddies

livid echo
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hey men no problem

tropic flame
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lol use Netbeans

livid echo
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vim is free

safe mason
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i have a toaster mate

tropic flame
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ew vim

austere ivy
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use textedit

worn ember
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🤦

livid echo
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vim > u

upper flicker
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its all about neovim now

austere ivy
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get a mac use TextEdit

pliant bison
safe mason
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i can't use anything except this outdated eclipse

austere ivy
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it's the best IDE out there

livid echo
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why get a mac when you can get emacs

tropic flame
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@safe mason what's your OS?

safe mason
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win7

austere ivy
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oh duh

tropic flame
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x86?

safe mason
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32bit

austere ivy
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emacs has another e, e stands for enhanced

worn ember
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jeez

hard lake
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xcode

worn ember
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is this 2008?

tropic flame
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oh yeah... @safe mason I feel you bro, get Netbeans it still supports 32 bits

unreal quarry
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Neon, it's time to leave 2007 behind, bro

livid echo
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enhanced macintosh

tropic flame
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I also still have Windows 7 x86

safe mason
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i have a toaster, i can't leave the past, anyone here actually going to explain to me how can i import a github project into eclipse ?

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please

tropic flame
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what's that eclipse version?

worn ember
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have you tried google?

tropic flame
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Eclipse 4.9 is the last one that supports 32 bits

unreal quarry
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I haven't used eclipse in years. I legit forgot

tropic flame
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it shouldn't look that bad

safe mason
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already tried google

worn ember
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i never got git to work on eclipse

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same for maven

livid echo
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imma have to restart cause quakespasm fucked up my resolution > : (

safe mason
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how else am i going to compile a plugin from github tho?

worn ember
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its cuz you're on that computer all day

safe mason
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any recommendations, i couldn't really follow messages above

vestal jasper
worn ember
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Begone weeb

vestal jasper
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ok discount yugioh card

worn ember
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still weeb

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i dab on dem haters

vestal jasper
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at least I'm not retardeed

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unlike @static badge

worn ember
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tru

livid echo
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anyone wanna have a quake lan party?

worn ember
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he big rard

vestal jasper
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tfw slowmode

worn ember
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NANI

vestal jasper
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tfw I can't double post without my client yelling at me

worn ember
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its MSN all over again

safe mason
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so just netbeans and use the same thing with git and i'm gucci?

tropic flame
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yes @safe mason you should

worn ember
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just look up what your error is lol

safe mason
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ty

vestal jasper
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I've been shitposting in this discord for about a month or two now I demand I be able to shitpost without limitation

hard lake
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why did you do this z

upper flicker
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for the tears

placid thicket
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he wants your milk money

safe mason
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yea i feel like my toaster is going to explode; is anyone here willing to compile one project from github for me and send me the jar please?

hard lake
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sure

cosmic raft
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we all just need to listen to some nice calming music

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Marilyn Manson - The Beautiful People - length 3m 47s - 810,484 likes, 51,004 dislikes (94.1%) - 152,216,169 views - MarilynMansonVEVO on 2009.10.06

safe mason
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or..

worn ember
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Or no

void void
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oh shit

livid echo
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tfw i have no friends to play quake with
sad noise

void void
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I like this song @safe mason

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thanks o.o

unreal quarry
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Not calm enough, @cosmic raft

safe mason
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billie ❤

cosmic raft
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here @unreal quarry

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here's something for you

void void
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omfg

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) JINJER - Pisces (Live Session) | Napalm Records - length 5m 6s - 225,050 likes, 6,381 dislikes (97.2%) - 19,532,872 views - Napalm Records on 2017.03.17

void void
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this song is awesome

worn ember
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@livid echo download some from google

void void
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just put music for playing minecraft 1.14 xdd

unreal quarry
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Make Them Suffer - Widower (Official Lyric Video) - length 4m 35s - 27,384 likes, 596 dislikes (97.9%) - 2,839,563 views - ManiacsTV on 2012.04.26

strange bane
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Billie Eilish - when the party's over - length 3m 14s - 4,403,854 likes, 118,790 dislikes (97.4%) - 213,847,331 views - BillieEilishVEVO on 2018.10.25

gusty idol
safe mason
strange bane
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The portal generator in NMS PortalTravelAgent takes Entity as its only argument then uses that for just the coordinates.

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I feel like they could help out plugin developers a little.

gusty idol
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xanny more like edgy

cosmic raft
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@strange bane which method?

strange bane
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Well, it's called a.

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PortalTravelAgent#a

cosmic raft
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the first method?

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It's not just used for the x/y/z

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CraftBukkit splits the method into more than one

strange bane
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What is the first a doing? (I'm looking at 1.14's source BTW)

winged tree
cosmic raft
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paste the code so I know what you're looking at

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in a gist

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finds a portal and then teleports the player

strange bane
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All I need to do is have NMS create a nether portal (if missing) in 1.14.

pulsar wigeon
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why did PTA get removed anyway?

strange bane
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Okay, thanks. Does the second a check if one is existing? I'm sorry this code is so confusing to me.

pulsar wigeon
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is there a way for plugins to know where a portal will be created (and if it will be) now?

strange bane
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Nope.

pulsar wigeon
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that's...very bad

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people tend to not protect their nethers

strange bane
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I really rely on TravelAgent this is very frustrating. There's the portal create event still though, for protection.

pulsar wigeon
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oh, is that new?

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back in my day PTA was the only way to guess where the portal would end up

plush hamlet
smoky rampart
strange bane
tropic flame
limber knotBOT
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smoky rampart
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Hello

strange bane
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Hey there.

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Okay, I'm just going to try and copy the logic from CraftTravelAgent and see if it works in 1.14. 😛 Although, might wait until Paper 1.14 drops before testing.

lavish cave
livid echo
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tfw quake engine is under gpl feels good man

tropic flame
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gpl best license

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runs

pulsar wigeon
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:\ PortalCreateEvent doesn't have a way to see what player caused it

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PTA's event did

unreal quarry
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"slaps logics with mit*

limber knotBOT
unreal quarry
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I'm working on that wiz

strange bane
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I really hate this change and I'm terrible at reading obfuscated Mojang code.

pulsar wigeon
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unfortunately billy, i can't just tell users to use paper

unreal quarry
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Gonna be another PR soon for EntityCreatePortalEvent. Already got one in there adding back the dragon

strange bane
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Oh, is this affecting WorldEdit?

pulsar wigeon
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never mind yours PRs are up to 9 months old or whatever

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worldguard

strange bane
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Adding back the dragon?

unreal quarry
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Yeah, md_5 removed the event from the dragon way back in 1.9 for no apparent reason

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I'm adding it back

pulsar wigeon
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players can make nether portals in the unprotected nether that will calculatedly pop up in spawn in the overworld (or another protected area)

unreal quarry
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Then expanding on it to include players

pulsar wigeon
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with PTA I get a player and a search radius at least, so i can see if the portal will end up in a protected area

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without that, all i get is a location

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so i just have to be overly protective

unreal quarry
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I never attend the PTA meetings

strange bane
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The best I think you can do is assume, wiz.

livid echo
unreal quarry
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Or drop spigot like a hot potato

strange bane
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Well, the portal was created here and the player is inside of it, I'll assume that player created it.

unreal quarry
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It's what all the cool kids do

strange bane
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I don't see how md can add a compatibility layer for 1.12 -> 1.13 but then remove TravelAgent.

unreal quarry
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He removes stuff all the time

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Just some things take longer to notice (EntityCreatePortalEvent)

strange bane
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?!

unreal quarry
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I'm convinced he does it because he doesn't understand how to upgrade it

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Just sweep it under the rug. No one will notice.

strange bane
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I genuinely need someone's help reading this obfuscated code I'm lost.

limber knotBOT
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hi peeps

strange bane
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Hey.

tame pendant
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ooh

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that's how that works

finite wave
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No

unreal quarry
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@strange bane it's a million times easier if you cross reference it to mcp

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mcp actually gives shit understandable names

strange bane
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Good to know for future reference, but they don't have 1.14 yet.

unreal quarry
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Oh, I forgot we're on 1.14 now. @cosmic raft 1.14 mcp when?

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runs

strange bane
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Oh, kashike runs that?

unreal quarry
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IDK if he's lead. But he's a man of importance there

strange bane
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I'm very impressed by how many projects he has contributed to.

stiff yarrow
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kashike the work horse peepoGiga

strange bane
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Surely Mojang are just making their own lives difficult with these stupid variable and method names...

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(Not being serious :P)

unreal quarry
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I heard they only keep obfuscating it to keep the jar filesize down

strange bane
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I don't doubt that actually.

cosmic raft
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that's not why, billy

stiff yarrow
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if those words were ever spoken to me I'd laugh irl

glossy turret
finite wave
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@upper flicker Turn off slowmode

cosmic raft
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no

strange bane
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kashike, which method checks for a portal? 😛

finite wave
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One of them

void void
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1.14 killed 1.13

strange bane
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Ah, thanks.

void void
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Nossr ready to update plugin for 1.14?

orchid pelican
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erg what do i build with 1.14pre5?

stiff yarrow
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build tools?

orchid pelican
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ye

stiff yarrow
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you have to use this command

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sec

strange bane
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--dev

orchid pelican
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1.14-pre5

stiff yarrow
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--rev 1.14-pre5

orchid pelican
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i forgot the -

strange bane
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Supplying --dev will fetch the latest dev build.

orchid pelican
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good to know

upper flicker
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the latest dev doesnt always compile

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because everyone just uses the rev system sometimes stuff breaks and no one notices

orchid pelican
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i havnt used built tools in ages

strange bane
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Also good to know. Luckily I don't deal with BuildTools since switching to Paper. 😛

orchid pelican
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i just pull from yalls build server lol

void void
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Or compile it from github repo

strange bane
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Paper or Spigot?

void void
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Spigot

strange bane
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Spigot isn't on GitHub. 😛

orchid pelican
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gitlab

strange bane
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I don't think it's GitLab either?

void void
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i will try 1.14 if is optifine

stiff yarrow
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spigot is on bitbucket or w/e

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its kind of dope

strange bane
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I actually don't like BitBucket.

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I struggled to find file tree history, actually I didn't find it.

orchid pelican
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i dont like bitbucket

vestal jasper
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I had someone join my server for the first time earlier that left because we're not 1.14

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We don't even advertise as being 1.14

orchid pelican
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do i need to specify a api-version: 1.14

strange bane
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1.13 or 1.14 is fine.

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It makes no difference.

echo beacon
orchid pelican
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i have 0 compilation errors on the new api

strange bane
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Lucky you. -.- 😛

orchid pelican
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haha

void void
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maven or gradle?

orchid pelican
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maven

strange bane
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I prefer gradle.

void void
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3.6.0?

strange bane
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But maven seems to be more popular.

void void
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At maven ^^^^^

strange bane
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What are you doing Nya?

void void
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mvn -version

gusty idol
strange bane
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No I mean, what are you trying to do? Make a plugin?

gusty idol
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The preview in the IntelliJ settings doesn't match the actual syntax highlighting anymore

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And font rendering is awful now

void void
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i am noob at java

stiff yarrow
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gradle kotlin is def better

strange bane
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What are you trying to do Nya?! xD

gusty idol
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How is the Kotlin DSL better than the Groovy one?

stiff yarrow
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groovy monkaSHAKE

gusty idol
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🤔

strange bane
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Is mcMMO in Koltin now?

void void
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1.14 killed updates at 1.12.2 ?

stiff yarrow
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no, but we'll be gradle kotlin in abstraction update

unreal quarry
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:o but then why @cosmic raft?

strange bane
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Nya, I'm sorry but I'm really confused by what you're trying to say. Do you think you could send your native language instead? I'll try to translate it. 😛

void void
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Shortly End of life for 1.12.2

strange bane
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1.12.2 will seemingly continue being supported for a little while, we need to wait on the announcement.

unreal quarry
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What is dead may never die

strange bane
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Seems like 1.12 is getting LTS treatment for now. 😛

void void
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Devs still like 1.12 API

unreal quarry
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No we dont

stiff yarrow
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its more like they haven't updated

brave nexus
stiff yarrow
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because all those projects are abandoned

honest yacht
void void
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I will be only one what will use 1.12.2 after EOF and many mc versions

strange bane
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What's stopping you from updating?

unreal quarry
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Pride

void void
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potato laptop

stiff yarrow
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optifine

void void
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yup

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I can even run modpacks

stiff yarrow
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@unreal quarry I'm replacing my GPU thurs, I'll let you know if it makes 1.13 playable

void void
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Galactic Science

stiff yarrow
gusty idol
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looks at 1.8.9

lapis sequoia
unreal quarry
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slaps @gusty idol

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No.

strange bane
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So, @unreal quarry you don't uh... plan on re-implementing TravelAgent... right?

unreal quarry
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That is forbidden

gusty idol
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But muh PvP mods

void void
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I can play 1.13.x but 1.14.x i think i can

unreal quarry
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Probably not. I'll have to see the code first. Mojang might have a better system in place.

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md_5 isn't going to remove it unless something changed drastically enough there

gritty peak
strange bane
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Yeah, it's pretty different. I can't even figure out how to check if a portal exists.

void void
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But when will be cave update?

orchid pelican
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were there only 2 new peristent tile entities?

unreal quarry
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I was looking forward to getting a good look this weekend, but just found out I'm getting o.t. \o/

strange bane
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Do you not get a choice in that? xD

feral sentinel
unreal quarry
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Kinda.

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I could say no... but I get $30/hr o.t.

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Kinda hard to say no to that lol

strange bane
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Oh, easy! Yeah, I'd happily do that too for pretty much any job.

unreal quarry
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My job is so simple too

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I run a printing press

stiff yarrow
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oh looks like md5 is awake now

strange bane
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Uh..?

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IRC?

glossy turret
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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

main ivy
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lol

placid thicket
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Raycasting engine in Factorio (vanilla 0.17) - Facto-RayO v1.0 - length 13m 9s - 382 likes, 1 dislike (99.7%) - 1,824 views - arrow in my gluteus maximus on 2019.04.23

white inlet
wanton tiger
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Drink every time a paper dev says something is a vanilla issue

orchid pelican
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so many nnetty errors

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my server is just refusing connections

pearl ibex
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@stiff yarrow Are you planning on selling your actual GPU? :>

stiff yarrow
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no its broken

pearl ibex
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Damn.

stiff yarrow
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I mean if you want to buy a broken GPU from me

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I'm more than willing

pearl ibex
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Smart boi... 😂

orchid pelican
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what gpu 😃

stiff yarrow
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my current dying GPU is a 980 ti

upper flicker
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hmm I got the discord client update with the altered theme

orchid pelican
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it broke my theme

upper flicker
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some of it is interesting

pearl ibex
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I want a freaking new GPU, do you need any bitch-job to be done? thonk

upper flicker
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the changed the contrast of the sidebar text

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not sure I like that

orchid pelican
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i like it

void void
pearl ibex
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Z, why is the slowmode still enabled? thonk

orchid pelican
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i am starting to pre fill my world haha this is ganna be a while

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server crshed lol

pearl ibex
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Lol.

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Rip.

unkempt pulsar
orchid pelican
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I can for sure say not production ready

stiff yarrow
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@pearl ibex if you asked me a week ago I would've paid for someone to write boilerplate

void void
pearl ibex
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Damn...

solar lynx
neat blaze
bleak wraith
woven otter
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what's with the slowmode

stiff yarrow
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keeps things chillax

past mason
vestal jasper
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not letting me double shitpost makes me not relaxed

fallen oracle
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Just bypass the slowmode then.

woven otter
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just use irc

unreal quarry
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It prevents ppl from joining and spamming ETA requests ;)

vestal jasper
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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

unreal quarry
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Plus is keeps a leash on leaf

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runs

torpid willow
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Lag Comparison 1.12/1.13/1.14 - length 13m 48s - 1,347 likes, 3 dislikes (99.8%) - 9,436 views - ilmango on 2019.04.23

vestal jasper
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leaf's retarded, draw a circle on the ground around him and he won't move

unreal quarry
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^_^

static badge
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@vestal jasper use irc

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it bypasses slowmode

vestal jasper
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why would I subject myself to that

stiff yarrow
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IRC literal dead bedroom

void void
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My nether just had regenerate like raw nether

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JUST UPDATING TO 1.14 V SERVER

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whyyyyy

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btw chunk loading is c r a p p y as f

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please god PaperMC, make our server go faster with plugins!!

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bless me god papermc

bleak hemlock
void void
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Waterfall build 279 for mc 1.14 is stable?

golden gust
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Well, Spigot just fixed the only bug known to me with bungee on 1.14

vestal jasper
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my grandma just referred to a mosquito as a bee

carmine hinge
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paper 1.14 when @static badge

zinc pagoda
stiff yarrow
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I've found as I get older I mix up words constantly like a sudden onset case of sentence dyslexia @vestal jasper

woven otter
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how old are you

void void
carmine hinge
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like 90

stiff yarrow
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sanjyusai

limber knotBOT
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jeez, posts on /r/4chan are getting tagged with endgame spoilers

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Was going through /r/all and spotted one

pulsar wigeon
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they've done this for every major thing in the past few years

limber knotBOT
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And apparently they setup automod to detect when you mention spoilers in comments and send you a message with all of them

vestal jasper
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why not

gusty dawn
void void
limber knotBOT
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hm

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randomly noticed slowmode is enabled

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but nor for bots

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heeeey

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irc wins again

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woo

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spam it up

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woop woop

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Bug electroniccat for 1.14

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in endgame captain america kills the hulk then thanos gets bored and dies

fallow portal
limber knotBOT
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is that the one after infinity war

formal cobalt
limber knotBOT
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The one that comes out friday, yeah

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in the end it turns out dr strange did a time loop again and it was all a dream

gloomy warren
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GoT > Endgame

limber knotBOT
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they all wake up and die and go to an anime isekai

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movie lasts 15 hours and it's super weird

stuck kraken
placid thicket
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@void void paper moves your nether and end to seperate worlds, just move dim1 and dim-1 back to the world folder, remember to delete the blank ones you accidentally created first!

stiff bramble
void void
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omg thank you so much

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!

pseudo island
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Hey 1.14 Paper when?

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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

pseudo island
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ok

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don't mind me 😛

limber knotBOT
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:D

pseudo island
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xD

placid thicket
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So never really looked into it before, what is waterfall anyway?

golden gust
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Waterfall is a fork of bungee that aims to improve forge support as well as other performance/api goodies

placid thicket
#

Neat

graceful osprey
forest fable
limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

austere ivy
#

I'm watching Endgame tomorrow

#

I think captain america dies, but that's an unconfirmed rumor

#

I doubt it to be true

#

That was rumored like pre-infinity war

graceful osprey
#

then can i request a eta, i wanna see what being fed to a gob looks like

austere ivy
#

I think some people theorized he'd die at the end of infinity war?

tranquil fern
austere ivy
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

true canyon
#

Can I get an ETA on the next goblin feeding?

upper flicker
#

probably soon

austere ivy
#

.eta on goblin feeds

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

austere ivy
#

o¬o

true canyon
#

@upper flicker you're the best!

upper flicker
#

o.o

#

why

#

what do you want

#

I dont have any money

deep shoal
#

in libsdisguises on 1.8

#

why does the squid spazz out when you punch it

#

in 1.13 doesn't exist anymore

upper flicker
#

its offended at you for running such an outdated version then coming here and asking about it

deep shoal
#

I am just experimenting

#

I wonder what the reason could be

upper flicker
deep shoal
#

i also noticed setVelocity doesn't work as expected all the time in 1.8 either

#

did the way velocity is handled change a lot

stiff yarrow
#

tuna weren't you the guy doing weird things with velocity earlier

austere ivy
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Lag Comparison 1.12/1.13/1.14 - length 13m 48s - 1,510 likes, 6 dislikes (99.6%) - 16,973 views - ilmango on 2019.04.23

austere ivy
#

holy guac

#

1.13 performance is BAD compared to 1.12

#

and 1.14 is WORSE

#

<-<

upper flicker
#

no one gives a flying fuck about the client

stiff yarrow
#

actually 1.14 client seems to run pretty good for me

#

whereas 1.13 runs like dogshit

austere ivy
#

z7

upper flicker
#

we get it, they did something, probably started using some newer gpu stuff

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Lag Comparison 1.12/1.13/1.14 - length 13m 48s - 1,512 likes, 6 dislikes (99.6%) - 16,973 views - ilmango on 2019.04.23

austere ivy
#

this is tsting the SERVER

upper flicker
#

no one

#

gives

#

a fuck

austere ivy
#

IT'S TESTING

#

THE SERVER

stiff yarrow
#

brian 🙄

austere ivy
#

1.14 is 1000x worse than 1.12

#

500x worse than 1.13

deep shoal
#

does setAllowFlight(true) stop fall damage?

austere ivy
#

I'm just saying.

stiff yarrow
#

🙄

upper flicker
#

you arent

#

youre just spewing the same whiney bullshit you were earlier

#

simmer down

stiff yarrow
#

I'm sure this is a very scientific and accurate test

upper flicker
#

find a club of people who are interested

austere ivy
#

Yes.

#

Just watch the video, yeah?

deep shoal
#

stop trying to boost your ad revenue

upper flicker
#

ah yes we're already forcing the server to tick very fast

#

thats a great indicator of that

#

just like how my 500TPS tests were a great indicator of real performance

austere ivy
#

Tunasub that's not me

#

that's a SciCraft youtuber ._.

stiff yarrow
#

there are so many conflicting reports on client performance that I can't really take anything in this video as truth

austere ivy
#

nossr

#

it's ran on a SERVER

#

it's not a singleplayer world

upper flicker
#

the test is bullshit

#

thats not how you benchmark code

stiff yarrow
#

brian why do you always pretend to know shit that you don't know

austere ivy
#

Nossr are you kidding?

stiff yarrow
#

its a daily thing with you

orchid pelican
#

my client feels quick af

austere ivy
#

You just said there's conflicting reports on client performance, this test has ntohing to do with client performance.

upper flicker
#

If someone wants to run a profiler through the actual vanilla jar

orchid pelican
#

joining servers feels way faster than 1,13

austere ivy
#

Chase

upper flicker
#

that'd be a worthwhile test

austere ivy
#

I'm not talking about client performance

upper flicker
#

this guy using mods to "warp" ticks and try and speed through them

stiff yarrow
#

I skipped around in the video brian, in one section I watched he was comparing client performance

austere ivy
#

where are you guys getting the idea I'm talking about client performance

upper flicker
#

is indicative of exactly jack

stiff yarrow
#

so I'm calling BS on you brian

austere ivy
#

did you watch the first 30 seconds of the video

#

he says

stiff yarrow
#

who cares

#

video is not evidence

deep shoal
#

does Player.setAllowFlight(true) stop them from taking fall damage?

austere ivy
#

"I'm running this on a server because on client there can be changes, like if something changes on my computer"

stiff yarrow
#

the test is flawed

deep shoal
#

LMFAO

#

"I'm running this on a server because on client there can be changes, like if something changes on my computer"

#

wut

#

can't something change on the server too?

#

I have no idea what the

#

point he attempted

#

to make

#

here is

stiff yarrow
#

its even worse if hes running client and server on same PC, which he probably is

austere ivy
#

my

#

GOSH

#

"I'm running this on a server because on client there can be changes, like if something changes on my computer"

upper flicker
#

literally how we feel 95% of the time you start into something

#

my

#

gosh

austere ivy
#

He's running it on a SERVER, like a server machine.

deep shoal
#

I wish I had nitro

austere ivy
#

A separate PC dedicated entirely to the server.

deep shoal
#

so I could have a picture of a brain as an emote

stiff yarrow
#

Brian you're 10 years too early

deep shoal
#

a separate pc dedicated to the server

#

is identical

#

to my own pc

austere ivy
#

I'm not talking to you, tuna.

#

I was replying to nossr who said it's even worse if you're running client + server on same pc

stiff yarrow
upper flicker
#

vanilla even has a profiler

#

built into the game

#

why am I not seeing those results

#

why am I seeing someone use a mod to just ram a shitload of ticks through

stiff yarrow
#

Brian if I make a video where I have a bunch of shitty tests equated to conclusive proof will your go around parroting what I say too

austere ivy
#

How are they bad tests?

#

Trying to make the server run as fast as possible and seeing how many ticks it can do per second?

stiff yarrow
#

🙄

#

if you submitted this video to me as your thesis I'd slap the doctorate right out of your hands HmmCoffeeSmile

austere ivy
#

That's.. not my question.

#

How are they bad tests?

deep shoal
#

I think because when you use the server in practice you aren't running 100000 tps
the test is not a useful reflection of real-world performance

#

the test tests something that isn't important

main ivy
#

Its a youtube vid.....not a bloody thesis.

austere ivy
#

Tunasub that's not the point.

#

It's not speeding it up to try to make time go faster, it's letting it go as fast as possible and seeing what TPS it got up to.

deep shoal
#

yeah

stiff yarrow
#

gonna leave before I get more retarded

deep shoal
#

and what is the point of that

austere ivy
#

So how many game ticks it can go through a second.

#

To see how many game ticks it can go through a second, comparatively, on versions?

deep shoal
#

does Player.setAllowFlight(true) stop them from taking fall damage?

austere ivy
#

Yes.

#

I think.

upper flicker
#

feel like you couldve tested and found out by now

austere ivy
#

Actually maybe not, because Player.setAllowFlight(false) doesn't make them take fall damage.

#

or enable, I suppose you could put it.

pulsar wigeon
#

allowflight doesn't mean flying

native thunder
#

It means allow flight :)

main ivy
#

Just finished watching ilmango's video. It was interesting. Thanks for posting it.

dense bridge
eternal steeple
#

Issues with ilmango's tests and video overall

  1. No provided downloads of the tests to allow others to verify
  2. No mention of what configuration his server was in
  3. No vanilla debugs files
  4. Used a client mod to do test that do not reflect the real world, how do we know the mod isn't impacting things
  5. Several of the tests weren't consistent between the versions
  6. No conclusion showing all the data together

End of the day what impacts MOST servers is more centered around chunk loading/unloading, chunk generation and large entity counts, and I didn't really see him test any of those things.

orchid pelican
#

at this point 1.14 is so unstable i cant even pre gen a dam world

deep shoal
#

most of the time == works on instances of Player (I guess spigot just passes around one instance the whole time the server's up?)

orchid pelican
#

so fuck the perf numbers

deep shoal
#

do I ever have to use .equals instead of == ?

orchid pelican
#

yes

#

when comparing objects

deep shoal
#

is .equals even overridden?

orchid pelican
#

it can be

deep shoal
#

I don't think you understood

orchid pelican
#

i dont think you gave enough infop

deep shoal
#

it's not overriden by Player

orchid pelican
#

it doesnt have to be

#

you should use .equals() for objects

deep shoal
#

when will == not work for the same "player" ? if someone quits and rejoins and I stored their previous instance?

#

should I always compare players by UUID ? (why doesn't the api do this)

orchid pelican
#

if they log out and log in the player object changes

#

and i dont think eather will work

#

so if thats the case use UUID although somone can correct me on that

#

.download

limber knotBOT
unreal quarry
#

Chase is correct.

true canyon
#

What in the hell

#

Use goddamn equals method for objects.

unreal quarry
#

Hey tuna, try this to see the difference "test" == "test" vs "test".equals("test")

true canyon
#

/me interns "test" first and doesn't tell billy

deep shoal
#

yeah

#

I know about this

#

but Player doesn't override equals

grand pewter
#

i dont think you can expect 2 player objects to be the same for the same player

#

eg. someone changes their username

#

you want to compare UUID not the names

deep shoal
#

I agree

grand pewter
#

you might store a player that has a different name than a newer player object in your code

#

or something else idk thats just my idea on it

unreal quarry
#

I fail to see what point you're trying to make, tuna. Please elaborate.

deep shoal
#

I was just checking

#

when instances of player change

#

like when == will stop working to compare players

unreal quarry
#

When the player quits the object is invalid.

#

You can hold a reference to it all day long (see memory leaks) but when the player comes back online they are given a new object instance.

#

This is why Player doesn't override equals, it defaults from Object which does a reference equality check (==)

simple ivy
fallen oracle
#

Welcome.

deep shoal
#

is it worthwhile (for performance) trying to multithread everything in my plugin that can be asyncronous

#

(everything as in, some potentially expensive tasks that don't call the bukkit API, not literally every statement)

shell vine
#

i believe generally no not unless you need to

#

mysql and http requests should

atomic whale
fallen oracle
#

Welcome.

jade vessel
halcyon sonnet
grand pewter
#

lol has anyone tried the prerelease software

#

im not even able to connect to the server for whatever reasons it just times out when dropping in 1.14 jar XD

#

(this is non paper related, just wondering if anyone's had success)

#

actually it looks like it doesnt even fully load the world, its just stuck at 91% lol

main ivy
#

I did have an issue. Not sure if it is related. I was in my high lag farm area when I switched to 1.14. It wouldn't complete the loading. However, when I moved to a low lag area and tried the upgrade again, it worked fine. Then it didn't matter anymore.

grand pewter
#

it might be the same issue because i am just running it locally on an old copy of the 1.13 map

#

good to know its not just me then, i'll just wait for something more stable

#

i was hoping to at least be able to load and see how plugins were functioning XD

native thunder
#

Have you tried with force upgrade?

grand pewter
#

is that required in 1.14? i thought that was just with 1.13 worlds

native thunder
#

The server might be recalculating all the heightmaps and light data

grand pewter
#

ah gotcha

#

ill try --forceUpgrade then

fallen shell
limber knotBOT
#

yes its required for 1.13 -> 1.14 too

#

because mojang changed how light is stored/calculated

grand pewter
#

oh i see, i haven't been keeping tabs on the release lately

#

oh yeah this will take a while XD

#

its on "Counting chunks" and the world is 20,000 by 20,000

#

thanks though the flag looks like it works

#

if this takes too long i might just try to gen a new world just for the sake of checking the plugins

#

i dont need an upgraded 2-month-old copy of the world if its going to take a long time

austere ivy
#

Fun thing just wanted to say, use == for comparing enums.

#

I see some people using .equals() to compare enums, and you shouldn't do that. Use == for enums, primitives (ints, booleans, etc) and .equals() for about everything else.

grand pewter
#

yeah so i removed the world and now im able to connect, thanks Brokkonaut!

austere ivy
#

(some people were talking about that)

grand pewter
#

and also Tofuus

fringe wraith
fallen oracle
#

Welcome.

deep shoal
#

is there a way to get a Player from a java.util.UUID

static badge
#

get entity by uuid

#

well there's get player oops

#

use get player :>

deep shoal
#

the solutions I see online

#

use looping

static badge
#

they're beyond retarded

deep shoal
#

oh nice

#

Server#getPlayer(UUID)

#

if the player is offline

#

I guess that returns null

orchid pelican
#

Ye

#

If you want an offline player use getzoffllineplayer

deep shoal
#

what's the difference between using myPluginInstance.getServer() and org.bukkit.Bukkit.getServer()

orchid pelican
#

Nothing

static badge
#

the way it's written

deep shoal
#

is either preferred?

static badge
#

no

#

generally you use the Bukkit class imported though

deep shoal
#

when registering events I see this pattern a lot more plugin.getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(events, plugin);

#

plugin.getServer

#

why don't they use Bukkit.getServer here too

orchid pelican
#

It doesn’t matter they both return the same server object

#

It’s just whatever you feel like

void void
cursive narwhal
#

CMI or EssentialsX?

analog mesa
velvet idol
analog mesa
#

Sup, Rach

velvet idol
#

\[T]/

#

aw my lil guy lost an arm

#

there

analog mesa
#

rip

#

you T-series now?

velvet idol
#

lmao no he's a lil dark souls sun worshiper

brisk linden
arctic mulch
fallen oracle
#

Welcome.

void void
#

I began watching Death Note and it sure is a weird anime

wide hazel
#

CHESS

#

this took me far too long

#

now I've gotta write a persuasive speech around it

analog mesa
#

@void void I literally just started Death Note as well today

void void
#

Yes it's really difficult taking a perspective like 7 episodes in

#

Also I cant control my anime consumption anymore this one broke me

smoky rampart
#

the manga is way better than the anime. usually i think japanese firms do a good job of making anime adaptions but in that case i think the anime is not nearly as good.

ancient bolt
#

is paper 1.14 out yet?

orchid pelican
#

yep

arctic prairie
void void
#

paper 1.14

orchid pelican
#

crinkled paper 1.14

marsh thistle
limber kernel
rich swallow
keen birch
quick fern
finite wave
#

How do i use the NMS packetserializer properly

cedar spade
#

concete 1.14

quasi valley
#

concete 1.7 wen

gloomy sphinx
hard lake
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

gloomy sphinx
#

.1.14

limber knotBOT
#

(Korobi) Europe - The Final Countdown (Official Video) - length 4m 56s - 2,546,686 likes, 113,432 dislikes (95.7%) - 622,592,773 views - EuropeVEVO on 2009.10.25

gloomy sphinx
#

when will paper pow pow pow 1.14 out

void void
#

14 == 7 * 2

#

people still use 1.7

gloomy sphinx
#

1.7 is best for pvp

#

1.6 is even better

#

but really 1.3 is where it is at

quasi valley
#

What about beta 1.7

void void
#

yeah 1.6 -> 1.7 was hard

quasi valley
#

That’s the real deal

void void
#

dumb sprint key

gloomy sphinx
#

i remember buying my mc account for $5 with a prepaid visa card i found on the ground

#

dont remember the version

golden dock
#

Wow so cool

quasi valley
#

I think I started a bit before 1.2.5

gloomy sphinx
#

yeah it was edgy

hard lake
#

I purchases mine on ebay for $9

gloomy sphinx
#

started when i was young

hard lake
#

It was a fa

golden dock
#

Sounds like you still are young

void void
#

I paid for my UFA(migrated account myself) 1,80$ i think

quasi valley
#

My first mc name was „Buntstift1000“ (something like Crayon1000) 😂

hard lake
#

I stole 3 bedrock accounts

gloomy sphinx
#

sounds like you are butthurt. maybe i used your prepaid visa

hard lake
#

Because I had security questions

gloomy sphinx
#

sorry if it was yours

void void
#

ArcaneAlts

#

it was cheap

gloomy sphinx
#

didnt all these alts come from a 1.9 million mc account leak in 2013

hard lake
#

No they run servers and crack them

gloomy sphinx
#

i remember some db leak a long time ago

hard lake
#

They need fresh proxies for that tho

gloomy sphinx
#

then all the alts sprouted

void void
#

I still have account

ornate spindle
#

yeah fuck alt sites and sniper sites

golden dock
#

Nice yeah i bought a real account

gloomy sphinx
#

then you're an idiot

void void
#

Buyed on december 2018

gloomy sphinx
#

could have saved $33

#

with an alt

hard lake
#

^

quasi valley
#

Your nose is an alt

golden dock
#

Im not poor so dont need to save

quasi valley
#

^

ornate spindle
#

idk how I would of saved $33 considering that I bought the game when it was $5

gloomy sphinx
#

anyone with a job at mcdonalds could afford a mc account

#

but $33 is $33

#

you dont get rich by spending

#

: )

quasi valley
#

You don’t by supporting those sizes either

ornate spindle
#

some would say otherwise

quasi valley
#

But THEY do

gloomy sphinx
#

instead donate to the burn leaf foundation

golden dock
#

You dont get poor by paying 33 rubles

ornate spindle
#

wish mojang actually went after those alt sites

void void
#

it was only like 10 euro if you bought it in 2009 like me

gloomy sphinx
#

take out one 2 more grow

#

that is probably why

hard lake
#

It was 19 eur when I got my acc

ornate spindle
#

they could also lock accounts that were sold through alt sites

gloomy sphinx
#

i think a lot of people would quit mc

edgy dagger
quasi valley
#

They once deactivated my account for being inactive whilst I was playing daily 👀

golden dock
#

Yeah there should be somthing done if they are stolen accounts

void void
#

Is from 2011 my account not locket yet

quasi valley
#

Mc would probably be better off without these people

golden dock
#

Yeah

ornate spindle
#

exactly

gloomy sphinx
#

so many regular mc players have alts

#

the game would die

ornate spindle
#

honestly mc can live without hcf players too

quasi valley
#

The game would certainly not die

golden dock
#

What is hcf

quasi valley
#

But be more fun for the rest

ornate spindle
#

why would they lock legit alts? I'm talking about stolen accounts sold through alt sites

quasi valley
#

Yeah

gloomy sphinx
#

most people use solten accounts as alts

#

since its like $1 for 5

ornate spindle
#

well they deserve to have those accounts locked

golden dock
#

Maybe people you know

hard lake
#

Well mine wasn't stolen, I've purchased it from the original owner

quasi valley
#

Playing dozens of hours for a game without extra payments and not even paying 1€

sharp oracle
quasi valley
#

Or even hundreds

gloomy sphinx
#

banning like a million mc alts certainly will hurt them

ornate spindle
#

@golden dock HCF is hardcore factions, basically the most toxic gamemode in minecraft

gloomy sphinx
#

it wouldnt be smart

void void
#

If is not locked is legit?

hard lake
#

Yes that would free up some OGs

quasi valley
#

They don’t care about how Many people play TCC

golden dock
#

I remember on vanilla wow back in thd day blizzard used to be hardcore banning stolen and sold accounts

quasi valley
#

It would make them actually more money

gloomy sphinx
#

especially when minecraft is pretty much word of mouth. everyone knows about mc already but lots of kids only play if their friends play

#

it would be bad for them

hard lake
#

what's "water"'s worth

golden dock
#

Most kids have parents who buy them the game

gloomy sphinx
#

lol no

hard lake
#

Some ogs are sold for like $500

quasi valley
#

Then why are there more legit bedrock players than alt Mc players

#

If there are not

ornate spindle
#

because bedrock edition has regional pricing

#

java edition doesn't

haughty peak
quasi valley
#

Wait it doesn’t?

gloomy sphinx
#

bedrock is 90% mobile players lol

quasi valley
#

Oh

gloomy sphinx
#

and cheaper

#

$10

quasi valley
#

Oh okay didn’t know that sorry 👀

gloomy sphinx
#

plus bedrock is free with all java accounts

quasi valley
#

Most bedrock players don’t have java

#

At least the active ones

ornate spindle
#

gotta be honest, I don't think anyone who owns java edition has swapped over to bedrock edition

haughty peak
#

Some people did.

gloomy sphinx
#

i did but i played it for 2 mins

livid echo
#

some of my friends did

gloomy sphinx
#

its dumb

hard lake
#

I didn't

quasi valley
#

It’s so much better in performance

ornate spindle
#

the UI on bedrock edition is cancer

golden dock
#

It runs better on tbh

gloomy sphinx
#

yes performance is so good

quasi valley
#

But all people I know Platz java so

livid echo
#

i cant even get multimc to work : (

golden dock
#

I did play it for a while

hard lake
#

The UI is shit, that needs to be reworked

ornate spindle
#

how does one not get multimc to work?

quasi valley
#

The recipe book is so much better in bedrock

#

It’s just a mess in java

gloomy sphinx
#

what would the modding community be like with bedrock

quasi valley
#

They just introduced a scripting api didn’t they

gloomy sphinx
#

C++ neckbeards

hard lake
#

It doesn't exist yet

quasi valley
#

😂

finite wave
#

Rust 👌🏼👌🏼

void void
#

Java Players 80%

livid echo
#

this is how one does not get multimc to work

finite wave
#

I think there is more users on bedrock isn’t there?

golden dock
#

Yes

livid echo
#

yeah but its on like 50 platforms

finite wave
#

Yeah precisely

#

@void void What did you mean

ornate spindle
#

huh never seen that bug before

hard lake
#

Hacked clients were funny, they wanted to sell nivia for $3000

#

But the owner got scammed

ornate spindle
#

apparently there is 150m bedrock edition users

finite wave
#

Nivia?

hard lake
#

Nivia client

void void
#

PC MC more players than bedrock

hard lake
#

Hacking is dead

gloomy sphinx
#

nodus was the best

void void
#

Nvidia*

finite wave
#

@void void No?

livid echo
#

nivia client

#

from what i know it was shitty

hard lake
#

No

#

It bypassed hypickle

finite wave
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Pc is the platform with least overall players in MC

gloomy sphinx
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many clients were skidded from hackforums lol

hard lake
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And flywars

livid echo
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envy does that too

void void
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Flux?

livid echo
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i think it was the old dev of flux

hard lake
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ew skid

void void
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Vape?

livid echo
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JUUL

hard lake
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Vape is non blatant

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not in that category

livid echo
ornate spindle
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anyone else here just stopped caring about hacked clients after nodus died?

gloomy sphinx
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that is a drug

void void
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🚬 💀

hard lake
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I forgot who even made thay

livid echo
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dont worry bro its just vapor

hard lake
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I have a cape on liquid bounce, it says suck my 10 inch futa dick

gloomy sphinx
hard lake
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Ppl be like nice cape

ornate spindle
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there are people on my server which make and sell maps of hentai

gloomy sphinx
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remember when yive actually had a mirror

hard lake
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Lmao

ornate spindle
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my mirror is still up you know

gloomy sphinx
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only for paper

hard lake
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Yeah

ornate spindle
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fuck anything else

gloomy sphinx
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i need taco spigot 1. 7

ornate spindle
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it is on there

gloomy sphinx
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how much traffic did you have monthly

hard lake
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u need beta 1.1_02 cbukkit

finite wave
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@ornate spindle Yeah 👌🏼 Nodus was the shit back in the day

gloomy sphinx
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nodus for life

ornate spindle
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I don't remember when, but last time I checked before shutting it down, it was at 56k uniques/month

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btw tacospigot didn't exist in 1.7

gloomy sphinx
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who made taco spigot

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or forked

ornate spindle
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techcable

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haven't seen him in years, idk if he is in the community still

gloomy sphinx
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seems like it was recently updated

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but failed

ornate spindle
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that was a community made pr

finite wave
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Taco spigot ded

ornate spindle
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not even worth using taco anymore

gloomy sphinx
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ah

finite wave
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Don’t use anything below 1.12

ornate spindle
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tacospigot is only good for 1.8.8, anything above that is most likely implemented into paper

finite wave
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Well 1.8 is old

livid echo
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still used by pvp servers

ornate spindle
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still very active

finite wave
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And full of retards

void void
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1.12 servers?

finite wave
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Still full of retards

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But not as ikd

livid echo
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wait someone made hentai maps and are selling them?

finite wave
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Old

livid echo
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i want in on that

finite wave
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Lol

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Are they getting money for it?

ornate spindle
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yeah, it is a towny server so it has an eco

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since december, they've made about 10k maps

livid echo
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?????

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thassa lot

ornate spindle
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I'm hoping for 1.14 to perform better than 1.12.2 so that I can finally update the server from 1.12.2, it is getting hard to support 200+ players on 1.12.2

livid echo
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isnt that like near the limit

gloomy sphinx
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which towny server

ornate spindle
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yeah they're currently at ~28k/34k

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I don't think my boss would want me posting it here

gloomy sphinx
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send me a message

livid echo
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dang

gloomy sphinx
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i am curious

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i play towny

livid echo
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yives towny server more private than gamesense