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hard lake
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What version of ubuntu?

upper flicker
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ubuntu got the new theme in 18.10?

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so thats probably 18.05

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4

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even

hard lake
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That could be still communitheme, or unity DE

upper flicker
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that just makes it even more behind

atomic marten
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I kinda liked unity

hard lake
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Ubuntu had gotten yaru in 18.10

heavy rapids
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ugh wayland was causing massive problems for me a year ago

upper flicker
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unity is built on an ancient version of gnome

heavy rapids
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panics all over the place

hard lake
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You can use yaru in 18.04 as well

heavy rapids
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random freezes

limber knotBOT
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yes, LTS alll the way.

upper flicker
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ofc you can

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but he clearly isnt

limber knotBOT
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i need stable stuff.

atomic marten
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its not so unstable now

hard lake
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What's your version of ubuntu Tall?

limber knotBOT
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18.04

atomic marten
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Ive had a single arch install without failures for 4 years think i think arch is pretty stable

heavy rapids
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what's everyones fav distro and why

atomic marten
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Arch: Aur

limber knotBOT
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ohh. so i can get the phantom from the event and see which player its attacking

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thats a great idea

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not as smooth as cancelling the event, but ok.

heavy rapids
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disclaimer: I don't know if the phantom will always have the target just after spawning.

hard lake
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I'm debating still, arch for now @heavy rapids

limber knotBOT
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Im using arch on my private machines. not for work though.

atomic marten
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I have an arch server

limber knotBOT
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youre doomed

atomic marten
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Gentoo, NixOS, and ClearLinux is pretty solid too

hard lake
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That's not a smart idea

atomic marten
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It's fine, nothing i use would break from the updates

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nothing dynamically linked

hard lake
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I would use the latest ubuntu lts for a server

limber knotBOT
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some people dont even use ubuntu because its so unstable ...

heavy rapids
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I used ubuntu, then debian, then openSUSE, and now arch

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for servers I use debian

hard lake
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SUSE is good, but it's a mess with patterns

atomic marten
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only reason i dont just use gentoo on the server is because i dont want to compile every update

heavy rapids
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YaST2 is great, too

rocky drift
hard lake
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I tried installing mate on suse and it pulled like libreoffice

heavy rapids
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yeah that's something I love arch for

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no deps I'll never need

atomic marten
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but yea, ive had 0 problems with having an arch server

unreal quarry
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Debian best distro. Be pure.

heavy rapids
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except for okular pulling the whole KDE environment with it.

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but I need okular.

atomic marten
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that isnt true at all about arc

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arch does in fact install stuff with batteries

heavy rapids
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Well, I have a laptop, so that's not something I'll never need for me ;)

hard lake
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I don't like how inexperienced users use debian and add repos

atomic marten
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debian is a current nightmare atm anyways

hard lake
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Don't do this

unreal quarry
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No it's not, Fuzen. It's frozen

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About to do a major release

atomic marten
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Wine has cylic deps if you want to install it

heavy rapids
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so I just thought my laptop fan is about to explode

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but it's actually just spaceship noise from a game I forgot about

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smh

atomic marten
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lmfao

hard lake
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I'm getting the Sapphire RX580 4GB next month

atomic marten
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i hear my debian friends complain about gaming on debian all the time

hard lake
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I want to try out wayland

upper flicker
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its nice

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there are still some teething issues though

atomic marten
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Wayland is in a much better state than where it was

void void
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sway is kinda nice

upper flicker
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like sometimes random items cant be moved between windows because ones an XWayland window and ones running in wayland proper

void void
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unless you have nvidia

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then ur fukd

shell vine
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is it normal when flying around in single player for chunks to unload then reload behind you

heavy rapids
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I'm staying on xorg for now

void void
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i have to stay on xorg :(

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or well... had to

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now am on mac

shell vine
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then theres a line under you that doesnt load till last

hard lake
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amdgpu will play nice with wayland

upper flicker
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are they actually unloading or is the renderer just no longer rendering them

atomic marten
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moving apps running through wine with wayland sometimes causes the apps to just go a bit insane

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Wayland works fine with my nvidia GPU as well

shell vine
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probably render they like disappear and reappear over and over a few times

hard lake
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Wait, wayland doesn't want nvidia's EGLStreams?

upper flicker
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no one wants nvidia's fucking eglstreams

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special snowflake bullshit for nvidia

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but gnome's compositor did add support for it

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I know there was an issue with XWayland not having acceleration with eglstreams

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but they may have fixed that or may soon

atomic marten
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They had most of it done for KDE a few months ago

hard lake
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honestly too bad for nvidia users

safe mason
atomic marten
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Why?

hard lake
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I want an amd gpu to make a pass through KVM, nvidia just makes it harder

atomic marten
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Nvidia is fine

hard lake
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They want you to buy a quadro

upper flicker
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nvidia is nvidia

heavy rapids
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@safe mason the license requires you to publish the source of the update, afaik

upper flicker
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theyre a shitty company who do shitty things

heavy rapids
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so you need to consider that

upper flicker
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but their hardware is pretty good so we all get to live with it

golden gust
atomic marten
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

hard lake
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What do you use Z750?

upper flicker
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I recently got rid of a gtx970 and replaced it with a vega64 card

hard lake
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Sweet

rugged tulip
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Nice

safe mason
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Oh awesome, thank you electroniccat! ๐Ÿ˜„

golden gust
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(protip for github, go to the insights tab (might have to click the "more" dropdown), and then see the networks tab

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You'll see anybody whos forked the project and what they've done with it

atomic marten
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only thing stopping me from using amd is amd cards not running as fast ๐Ÿคท

hard lake
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Yeah fair enough

upper flicker
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I got a pretty slick deal on it and my 970 was not aging well

safe mason
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Thanks for the tip.

upper flicker
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plus no more nvidia bullshit

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win/win for me

dark snow
hard lake
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Isn't vega64 identical to a gtx 1070Ti?

atomic marten
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Mesa is pretty good now, but the DRM filled nvidia driver is good too

upper flicker
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idk where the 1070ti ranks

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it will trade blows with a 1080

hard lake
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I saw some benchmark results they were similar

upper flicker
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wins some benchmarks, loses some others

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you can tell they've really been working on the vulkan side of things

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thats where all the gains are

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opengl stuff doesnt run as well

hard lake
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Drop opengl tbh

atomic marten
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^^

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i get a lot of hate whenever i say that

hard lake
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macOS sort of went in the right direction

upper flicker
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macOS didnt exactly have an amazing history with opengl though either lol

atomic marten
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openGL could of been vulkan if they didnt decide to stagnate

upper flicker
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not like they kept it up to date or anything

hard lake
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Yeah macs don't support nvidia gpus anymore

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At least mojave+

upper flicker
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I feel bad for people who were using the nvidia cards in the old mac pros and the external boxes

atomic marten
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you can get it working for hackentoshes

upper flicker
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no you cant

hard lake
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No, High Sierra is the last you can do

atomic marten
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o

upper flicker
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on the other hand, nvidia getting nvidia'd by another company is kinda funny

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doenst help the people with those cards

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but at least we can sensible chuckle

atomic marten
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I would love for amd to end up on top

upper flicker
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I dont really want anyone on top

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I want everyone competing near enough to everyone else

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that pricing doesnt skyrocket and shit keeps moving

atomic marten
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by on top i mean, companies considering AMD cards in their game development decisions not just NVIDIA only stuff

hard lake
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I somehow picked a bad chipset gtx 950, all the compositors just break on me on linux

golden gust
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lol

hard lake
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GTX 950 2GD5 OC to be more precise

golden gust
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Yea, you really gotta research what you're picking, the kernel can be a bitch at times

hard lake
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Hey, at least amdgpu is in the kernel c:

upper flicker
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idk how the other nvidia cards are

atomic marten
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think doesnt dkms solve that

upper flicker
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no

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it bandaids it

hard lake
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That's not the point of dkms?

upper flicker
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having shit just work OOB is a really nice feeling

atomic marten
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I know its not

upper flicker
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especially compared to installing the nvidia driver where I have to add a kernel flag that basically says not to use the card, run in some horrible resolution, and then go install it and reboot

golden gust
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dkms doesn't really fix the whole case of nvidia just not fixing it or the card itself having issues

hard lake
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I had to enable early kms for my card, otherwise my monitors just go off when I try to restart the x session lol

upper flicker
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all because the foss driver is bad because they're essentially blackbox reverse engineering shit from nvidia

atomic marten
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i never had to do that o.o

upper flicker
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and nvidia keeps locking down firmwares

golden gust
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Apparently there has been a good few pci level bugs on some of the chipsets

atomic marten
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granted i have all the graphics stuff installed before I have a gui added

void void
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yeah and then majority is kinda shitting on nouveau driver for being crap :p

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sadly

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most of the people don't understand the horror its devs have to go through

upper flicker
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idk how the nouveau guys keep on going

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I wouldve quit years ago

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fuck that

hard lake
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I don't blame nouveau

void void
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same, how tf are they still motivated

hard lake
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Well you shouldn't

golden gust
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They probably just want a usable system lol

upper flicker
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maybe they like the challenge

atomic marten
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thats how dxvk came to be

void void
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alltho they managed to get my 920m running okay-ishly

atomic marten
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some guy just wanting to play Neir

void void
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i played quake 1 @ darkplaces engine 50-60fps

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on low settings

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year before that it was tearing, crashed gpu etc.

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so stuff seems to move

upper flicker
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nouveau seems to do really poorly with 3D

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if youre just in a terminal or browsing its tolerable

void void
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youtube videos tear badly

upper flicker
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but you run into just weird ass artifacts in games and other stuff

atomic marten
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I like mesa drivers

void void
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ye

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GALLIUM_HUD=fps 3d-app

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that's useful tho

atomic marten
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Anyone try mesa on windows?

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i know they have drivers for it

upper flicker
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I thought it was just for shimming old opengl titles

atomic marten
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o that could be

upper flicker
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I havent had the need for that

atomic marten
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just saw it was on their listed support

upper flicker
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its cool that you can I guess

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Im sure someone appreciates it

atomic marten
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wasnt there somee new sound change they had proposed for 5.0

upper flicker
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I am not up to date on my mesa news

atomic marten
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its in kernel news

hard lake
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I like how games perform with lutris

atomic marten
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lutris isnt really that much diffrent than play on linux

deft adder
hard lake
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Wasn't expecting what I experienced

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Yeah, it's just the install script

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I used wine staging

atomic marten
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why is that i can only remember where i was and what i was doing when i read the article and waht everything on the page looked like, but I cant remember what it was REEE

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im just waiting on valve to manage to work something out with the anticheat companies

hard lake
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Oh yeah

atomic marten
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And I want xingcode to die

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regardless of if it supports linux or not

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PipeWire is what it was..

strange bane
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Hey guys, is there an ETA on when .eta will show an actual ETA? Thanks. ๐Ÿ˜›

atomic marten
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Project was dropped, move on over to minetest

quasi valley
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when the goblins are fed

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and fully saturated

river pine
strange bane
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Oh god, there's not more world conversion in 1.14 is there?

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That took a surprisingly long time to prepare my spawn area on the Spigot dev build.

atomic marten
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HyPixel killed minecraft, there is only mintest and HyPixel now

upper flicker
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Its actually called Hypickel now

pulsar wigeon
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high pickle?

static badge
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.g hypickel

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) https://hypixel.net/members/hypickel.64291/ -- Hypickel | Hypixel - Minecraft Server and Maps: "Hypickel is a Well-Known Member at Hypixel - Minecraft Server and Maps."

vestal jasper
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I'm high as a pickle

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๐Ÿค 

static badge
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ur retarded

river pine
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is there going to be a 1.14 update for paper?

upper flicker
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no

quasi valley
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never

hard lake
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No

river pine
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why

quasi valley
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paper has been shut down

upper flicker
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.eta

quasi valley
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sadly

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

strange bane
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How does .g even work? Doesn't Google get mad at bot requests?

atomic marten
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Hypixel killed minecraft

river pine
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oh god

quasi valley
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your nose killed minecraft

atomic marten
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Switch to hypixel or use minetest

hard lake
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I watched one dude play that game

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goes under "maikerumine" also someone who played on 2b2t

strange bane
cerulean wind
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you're in purgatory

hard lake
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I have to do this

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sudo @cerulean wind autoremove --purge @cerulean wind

atomic marten
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Says i have to install some java package

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help

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am on MacOS

hard lake
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I can tell I'm not the first one to do that

upper flicker
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dont install it

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its a compatibility package for legacy shit

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installs java 6

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go get homebrew

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install the openjdk build from brew

static badge
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java 6 DansGame

upper flicker
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live happy life longtime

hard lake
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I actually installed jre6 earlier for alpha 1.2.6

atomic marten
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TIL that installs java6

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always wondered what it did

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have always been too lazy to look it up

upper flicker
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once upon a time, long ago, in a galaxy far far away

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macOS shipped with yava

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eventually they came to their senses and stopped

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but they left that stupid shim in there to get the ancient version

static badge
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if they came to their senses

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they wouldn't ship macs anymore

golden gust
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Oh god

upper flicker
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youre on windows, simmer down

golden gust
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I just looked at ChunkRegionLoader

cerulean wind
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vix :(

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and yeah

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i get it

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DAILLLLY

hard lake
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Lol sorry mate

static badge
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like the loadchunk method electronic? :>

golden gust
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Yea

atomic marten
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there was a pacman wrapper for homebrew, dnf,apt and some other package managers

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cant remember what it was

hard lake
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That scares me

atomic marten
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why?

hard lake
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Like, why would you do that?

atomic marten
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it just lets you use things like pacman -S instead of apt install

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nothing major

hard lake
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There is people trying to get pacman on debian and I'm like thinking_gun

atomic marten
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-Syyu works btw

hard lake
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You only run that after adding new mirrors correct?

atomic marten
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i put homebrew, nix, apt, dnf on arch before

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No way

hard lake
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Honestly I'm not gonna ever do that

atomic marten
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why not

hard lake
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Recipe to disaster

atomic marten
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why do you say that

hard lake
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Different repos, different packages

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Something may conflict

atomic marten
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o you meant the multiple package managers, its just for shits and giggles

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only thing i actually use on multiple systems is nix

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the nix pacakge manger wont cause any conflicts

hard lake
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Nix has everything in /nix

atomic marten
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ye

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i use it for nix-build

hard lake
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It tries to be an actual linux distro

atomic marten
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and nix-shell

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it is

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atomic marten
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NixOS is a real thing

hard lake
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Not in that sense

static badge
hard lake
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Like, NIX independent

atomic marten
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i also use nix for my mac

static badge
hard lake
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Or different

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What is happening

static badge
upper flicker
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spotted keeps being spotted

quasi valley
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leaf is a furry

upper flicker
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saying dumb stuff and getting kicked

atomic marten
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OwO

upper flicker
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kinda what he does

strange bane
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Wow, so many methods I use are gone in Spigot 1.14. PlayerPortalEvent#getPortalTravelAgent, Bukkit#getCommandMap, Location#toCenterLocation, Player#banPlayer. I think toCenterLocation could be Paper though.

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banPlayer is not a hard fix, I'll assume the others are moved?

static badge
atomic marten
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OwO

hard lake
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It's not at all

atomic marten
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UwU

static badge
wide chasm
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Ehm, TravelAgent was completely removed, so I don't think adding that will be easy.

tranquil bone
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Guess what I decided to do

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tranquil bone
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I opened a 1.14 server

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The thing crashes every few seconds

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30 players and it flops

atomic marten
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anywaym, Nix, its not really that much diffreent than say linuxbrew

strange bane
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@wide chasm is there a replacement?

wide chasm
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Not that I know of

strange bane
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Wait, is this Mojang or Spigot making this change?

wide chasm
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Spigot

strange bane
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?!

hard lake
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What is spotted doing? Weren't they a nice person

atomic marten
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no

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yes

wide chasm
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I don't think anything nether/end portal related was changed in 1.14, so doubt it's Mojang.

atomic marten
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they are nice, just fell down to many stairs head first

strange bane
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I really need that class...

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What about the command map, does anyone have ideas?

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Is that now a "use reflection" thing?

wide chasm
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I think you can get it with reflection

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Yes

strange bane
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Why are these downgrades being made?

wide chasm
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I've been doing it with reflection before 1.14, didn't know there was an exposed method for it.

atomic marten
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why not

strange bane
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My server absolutely requires the PortalTravelAgent...

wide chasm
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Hey, not everything is a downgrade, the Material class is now 7916 lines long.

upper flicker
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they never exposed the commandmap

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paper exposes it

strange bane
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Oh, thank goodness.

upper flicker
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so thatll be fine

pulsar eagle
strange bane
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Please add PortalTravelAgent back, I can't imagine trying to do that with NMS.

upper flicker
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uh

static badge
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we expose the commandmap?

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did md69 finally remove that?

upper flicker
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I havent looked at 1.14 at all

static badge
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oh yes I can fix portals being retarded now

upper flicker
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like not even downloaded the BT jar

atomic marten
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what is your avatar leaf

tardy lynx
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when's paper 1.14

upper flicker
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but if he removed it I assume its because NMS fucked the concept up

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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

wide chasm
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TravelAgent was completely removed, yes.

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Don't know why though

fringe quartz
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Gotta book your own flights now

tardy lynx
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when's paper 1.15

wide chasm
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Yesterday

upper flicker
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myles is in charge of 1.15

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he already said its just going to be paper duct taped to via

wide chasm
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with bitcoin mining

atomic marten
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@static badge what is your avatar

dapper nacelle
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lets all whine to md_5 that we want spigot 1.14

static badge
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who knows :>

hard lake
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@static badge whats ur avatar furry

atomic marten
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its not a named creature think

tardy lynx
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wow

upper flicker
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its a space healing cat from a teen drama novel

tardy lynx
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1.14 is out today

upper flicker
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you can google into it and lean into the meme

dapper nacelle
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@tardy lynx no shit

tardy lynx
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I thought it was like next week

dapper nacelle
void void
golden gust
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Ah, they lovinly moved all the stuff that was basically in ChunkRegionLoader over to PlayerChunkMap

strange bane
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I thought this was going to be such an easy update but now I need to find an alternative to the travel agent. Grr.

gloomy sphinx
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WHEN IS PAPER 1.14 and is zombie dupe glitch fixed yet?

nimble kayak
pseudo island
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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

static badge
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yeah where's paper 1.14

pseudo island
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.ea

static badge
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we need that now

pseudo island
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Spotted

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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

static badge
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immediately

atomic marten
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Failed to find it blobsob

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i looked at the first 5 links

upper flicker
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can you all not

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for 10 minutes

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can you just not

gloomy sphinx
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when is spottedleaf beta being released???

fringe quartz
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it's only gonna get worse

gloomy sphinx
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. eta

atomic marten
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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

gloomy sphinx
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.aikar

fringe quartz
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all the kids get out of school in the next few hours so expect many more kiddo server owners coming and asking

golden gust
static badge
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ah yes discord

upper flicker
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@fringe quartz ugh you're right too, thats the worst part

atomic marten
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.zcpu

tardy lynx
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why doesn't paper support 1.4.2

wide chasm
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Only American kids, European ones are sleeping

hard lake
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When has this discord become a meme?

atomic marten
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.g zcpu

limber knotBOT
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gloomy sphinx
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paper 1.14 paper 1.14 paper 1.14 papermc papermc papermc papermc

static badge
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z is a chipset actually

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a failed chipset

atomic marten
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link

gloomy sphinx
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. taco

upper flicker
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there you go

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problem solved

static badge
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he's 750 because intel tried to forget him by projecting him into the future

void void
limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Potato Knishes OFFICIAL - length 1m 21s - 124,574 likes, 10,023 dislikes (92.6%) - 6,968,428 views - ratboygenius on 2013.05.13

atomic marten
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.g healing space cat teen drama

limber knotBOT
void void
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yes

static badge
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ur not gonna find it that way

upper flicker
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dont use the bot's .g

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its only good for memes

hard lake
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What did you do to this server Z

atomic marten
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im never going to find it q.q

static badge
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he created it :>

hard lake
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Wasn't this a meme free zone

upper flicker
static badge
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hey it's rock :>

atomic marten
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leafs cat looks nicer though

upper flicker
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that wiki probably covers enough

limber knotBOT
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fuck

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rock knows everything z

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even that ur retarded

upper flicker
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why are you on irc

void void
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where is the nsfw chat

upper flicker
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Codevision

wide chasm
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Can confirm

limber knotBOT
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you put on slowmode :angry:

static badge
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how's that 1.14 branch electronic

void void
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It is @static badge a bot?

fringe quartz
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it is

limber knotBOT
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does it compile? am check it

atomic marten
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When is 1.14 so i can never use it

limber knotBOT
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why is the 4.20 update taking so long

upper flicker
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we're testing the 420 update

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thats why its taking so long

limber knotBOT
#

oh god I'll have to update my prs

#

you would

#

z can you pull all of my prs real quick

upper flicker
#

we're pretty chill about it

void void
#

This leaf is not spotted

atomic marten
#

why must 1.14 be stopped by mere tests, test it in production

#

i thouhgt spotted leaf was just pokemon fanart

upper flicker
#

pokemon fanart is much more useful

void void
upper flicker
#

dont confuse yourself

atomic marten
#

now im dissapointed...

#

pls gib 1.14 i have raid

upper flicker
#

we only gib 1.14 for raves

#

not raids

atomic marten
#

raid get rid of bugs yes?

upper flicker
#

no

atomic marten
#

raid no kills bugs?

upper flicker
#

sure is tasty though

atomic marten
#

i thought raid was good for all pests, from fleas to parents

unreal quarry
#

The more you guys talk to the blue names the longer the wait ;)

void void
#

^

atomic marten
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

atomic marten
#

eta has only been said 185 times

#

*186

void void
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

void void
#

^^^

atomic marten
#

thats fine, i have suction cups

tardy lynx
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

orchid pelican
#

Are spigot sources out yet ?

atomic marten
#

is paper 1.14 soon.99 yet?

void void
#

why are you working on Travertine @upper flicker :v

#

I don't even know what is that .jar xd

vestal jasper
#

zombie glitch fix when??????????????????

strange bane
#

Travertine is already on 1.14..?

void void
#

nope

static badge
#

rip failed to apply patches

atomic marten
#

why you want jar? we want 1.14 no jars

strange bane
#

What's wrong with it @void void?

tardy lynx
#

when you gonna patch chunk dupe for 1.4.2

upper flicker
#

did you ping me to ask me about travertine

livid echo
#

the heck

upper flicker
#

do I even have any commits on travertine

livid echo
#

is 1.14 already out?

static badge
#

ur paper man round here

void void
#

XD

atomic marten
#

paper is flat, not round

hard lake
#

@livid echo yes but paper will never

atomic marten
#

paper has sharp edges too

hard lake
#

It's a paperclip

livid echo
#

and anyone else having problems with the optifine website?

static badge
#

time to resolve these conflicts I guess

atomic marten
#

git push --force

void void
#

yes, not working

hard lake
static badge
#

hey if I resolve these conflicts can I PR them? :>

livid echo
#

i just launched smp and now ill have to update from 1.13 to 1.14 someone rm -rf --no-preserve-root / me

tardy lynx
#

hmm maybe if mc was open source, stuff like optifine and paper could actually come out with the new vanilla versions

atomic marten
#

we have 1.14 and no stable forge

#

now how am i supposed to sort my inv

strange bane
#

Plugins can do that. ๐Ÿ˜›

tardy lynx
#

well at least there's no 1.14 hackers yet

hard lake
#

Are you on uefi or bios @livid echo?

atomic marten
#

send proof

livid echo
#

@hard lake im on cocaine

atomic marten
#

needs to be able to sort chests too

hard lake
#

If you are on uefi you will brick your motherboard

nimble kayak
#

Nice

strange bane
#

There's a plugin that already does chests, not sure about players.

glossy crater
#

โ€œhackersโ€

hard lake
#

So gl with that

atomic marten
#

ueifi was a mistake

livid echo
#

good someone kill me

tardy lynx
#

wait what

hard lake
#

@atomic marten I disagree

atomic marten
#

i want newer hardware without uefi

void void
#

let see which dev is faster to release a new server stable build

livid echo
#

mojang

void void
#

sure ยฌยฌ

upper flicker
#

mojang won

atomic marten
#

think i have no interest in having a webserver in uefi

tardy lynx
#

how does deleting everything brick motherboard

livid echo
strange bane
#

Oh, toCenterLocation is Paper?

livid echo
#

i do not understand what this launcher means i just installed it

atomic marten
#

what is the launcher

unreal quarry
#

It could have been Bukkit if I wasn't attacked by the original Bukkit team when I pr'ed it to them years ago @strange bane

livid echo
#

i installed it from the .deb it should be the latest

atomic marten
#

what launcher are you using '-'

strange bane
#

Oh, that's right! Well, luckily that one is easily to get running on Spigot. However, TravelAgent is still painful to see removed.

livid echo
#

the normal launcher from mojang on linux

atomic marten
#

o just use multimc

livid echo
#

oof

atomic marten
#

why oof?

gleaming granite
tardy lynx
#

glad i deleted my server before 1.14

livid echo
#

^^^kek
yo we can just edit messages instead of waiting for slowmode

void void
#

It's funny to see how even Mojang call the .exe file "Minecraft Launcher" Instead of just Minecraft

pulsar wigeon
#

why is that funny. it's a launcher, call it a launcher

strange bane
#

You're missing the punchline.

tardy lynx
#

minecraft launcher launcher

void void
livid echo
#

ahahahaha i get it now thanks

hazy prawn
atomic marten
#

minecraft launcher works here (On Archlinux)

livid echo
#

it works it just has that warning

atomic marten
#

not same think

livid echo
#

youusearchbtw

upper flicker
#

I think the AUR package is out of date

#

iirc its flagged

void void
#

That's for a user who handles better, but for a 6-year-old boy who just downloaded Minecraft yesterday to play creative worlds, simply putting lava buckets in villages, I doubt it @pulsar wigeon

atomic marten
#

git clone it

#

replace the deb, and bump the version

pulsar wigeon
#

a 6 year old is looking at the icon, not wondering why it says "minecraft launcher" instead of just "minecraft"

livid echo
#

but minecraft is non foss we should all play minetest

upper flicker
#

I dont care that much

void void
#

XD

upper flicker
#

I doubt any of the changes impact me at all

#

probably just various bug fixes

atomic marten
#

I just use multimc

livid echo
#

arch linux arch gnu+linux

atomic marten
#

if you want to get technical its way more than just gnu

void void
#

Taco Launcher Special Edition Suscribe to YT channel called ElBurrito will get you a no premium button with diamond blocks in your world for free!

atomic marten
#

the many defferen't sounds e makes in mercedes-benz bothers me more

strange bane
#

Wow, that's a big commit for 1.14. Does anyone know if the 1.14 branch runs or not?

#

(Paper 1.14 branch that is)

atomic marten
#

build and see

strange bane
#

Okay, I'll get back to you in a couple of hours. xD

atomic marten
#

no need, not interested in knowning the result

upper flicker
#

it doesnt

atomic marten
#

im just hoping it wont take a lot of work to update my purely educational bot army

upper flicker
#

its not done

#

when it is done, we'll let everyone know

strange bane
#

Yeah, I know it's not done but I realise that my projects now heavily rely on Paper and I can't really prepare them for 1.14 without it.

upper flicker
#

I think you can apply the API and just build that

#

if you really wanted to do it now

#

but you cant test or anything

atomic marten
#

test it in production smh

plucky marsh
strange bane
#

It's fine, I need time to think of a way around the removal of TravelAgent anyway.

void void
upper flicker
#

not changing the icon to a taco

void void
#

that is clearly a Taco

hard lake
livid echo
pearl ibex
#

Slowmode? Wtf?

upper flicker
#

the community has reaffirmed its terribleness

livid echo
#

? please explain

finite wave
#

@upper flicker I swear to god i swill join you in your bed tonight if you do not turb that shit off. Thx.

upper flicker
#

you can set slowmode to 6hrs

#

jfc discord

finite wave
#

Jfc

livid echo
#

do it

upper flicker
#

lol

finite wave
#

No

livid echo
#

do it and ill donate $1

pearl ibex
#

6 hours. thonk

atomic marten
#

slowmode has no binds on me
I
shall
not
be stopped

upper flicker
#

lol

finite wave
#

No

hearty shell
livid echo
#

bypassing slowmode in 10 easy steps!
this is super cool
i dont even need to wait
bypass 100
๐Ÿ’ฏ

upper flicker
#

does slowmode apply to reacting to existing messages

finite wave
#

Slowmode bypassing incoming

upper flicker
#

there you go

atomic marten
#

ye
you can change it

upper flicker
#

oh rip

pearl ibex
#

Z, was it Leaf's fault? thonk

ornate spindle
finite wave
dapper nacelle
#

who wants a free headache

livid echo
#

i want optifine back : (

pearl ibex
#

Stupid leaf forced Z to enable the slowmode.

livid echo
#

you know what? FRICK 1.14 man! I have had enough. Im staying on 1.12

upper flicker
#

btw we're dropping 1.13

#

so uh, just dont break it

unreal quarry
#

But the pandas, Vlad... Think of the pandas...

void void
#

Old Minecraft is boring af

livid echo
#

you know what? HECK tHESE NEW VERSIONS! ITS TIME TO USE BETA 1.2

void void
#

HAH

upper flicker
#

beta 1.7.3 is the best version

#

if youre looking for one to sit on, that'd be it

hard lake
unreal quarry
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

livid echo
#

i think there was a version where player inventory was client side even on servers

upper flicker
#

there were a few versions like that

void void
#

lets make a Minecraft server 1.0

upper flicker
#

you cant hide your edits from irc

livid echo
#

HECK

#

anyone who uses irc are nerds matrix is the way to go

upper flicker
#

matrix is more nerd than IRC atm

livid echo
#

thats exactly what a nerd would say

upper flicker
#

got me there

atomic marten
#

Matrix got compromised

strange bane
#

How come Spigot have to go through BuildTools and yet Paper hosts its builds?

atomic marten
#

The home server did anywho

hard lake
#

because spigot is gay

finite wave
#

@strange bane It does not

olive garden
#

paperclip is an advanced buildtools

strange bane
#

omg I'm so stupid how did I forget that. xD

atomic marten
#

Because

strange bane
#

Let's just end that there. ๐Ÿ˜›

atomic marten
#

;)

strange bane
#

Paperclip is so much faster than BuildTools.

hard lake
upper flicker
#

I see they never made multimc pretty

#

tbh I thought it was dead

hard lake
#

no

#

it looks pretty if you use qt

void void
#

paper 1.14?

upper flicker
#

ye @hard lake has the only working 1.14 build

mossy lintel
upper flicker
#

everoyne has to DM him for it

void void
#

XDD

livid echo
#

its time to give up on paper 1.14 imma use paper a4

upper flicker
#

a4 is crap

#

its all about legal

livid echo
#

lets copyright paper

olive garden
#

no, let's DMCA paper

tropic flame
#

imagine releasing Spigot 1.14-pre5 in the same day 1.14 is actually released and therefore assuming the position of the asshole

olive garden
#

all 5 lines of code I added

mossy lintel
tropic flame
#

beautiful, md_5

void void
#

which java is the best for mc 1.14 vanilla serv

gusty idol
#

Wow I can't believe Amazon is selling paper without telling the Paper devs

void void
#

still java 8

olive garden
#

the newest

cursive narwhal
#

At least Amazon is updated to 1.14.

hard lake
#

openjdk-13

void void
#

Java 11 OpenJ9

upper flicker
#

yeah I suppose there are java 13 builds now

mossy lintel
#

java 1

upper flicker
#

still not used to the quick releases

olive garden
#

*my recommendation is newest LTS

pulsar wigeon
#

all the cool kids are doing it

upper flicker
#

Paper is tested against 11

#

so you can run whatever

hard lake
gusty idol
upper flicker
#

if you bitch because 13 doesnt work youre on your own

pulsar wigeon
#

if you're not bumping a major version multiple times a year, you've failed as a hip software company. oracle just wants to fit in

hard lake
#

I still use openjdk-8 like a sane person

void void
#

XD

upper flicker
#

I distro hop a lot

gusty idol
#

I don't understand distro hoppers

upper flicker
#

when I set up the last one I just installed 11 and its been fine for just about everything

hard lake
#

I can't use linux until I get my new gpu

gusty idol
#

Do they just feel like installing a new OS out of boredom?

upper flicker
#

I keep 8 around for paper and a few other projects so I know there isnt a compiler issue or something

#

but otherwise I wouldnt

#

@gusty idol yeah pretty much

gusty idol
#

๐Ÿค”

mossy lintel
upper flicker
#

because the waterfall page wasnt designed to support multiple versions

#

and the newest releases are under 1.14 instead of 1.13

#

Ill fix it later tonight

hard lake
upper flicker
#

breaks out the @ everyone

distant cloak
upper flicker
#

"PM VIX FOR JAR"

tropic flame
#

also bruh slowmode, if it were me I'd just ban leaf

hard lake
#

Yes.

upper flicker
#

leaf wasnt the reason I did slowmode

void void
#

HAHA

mossy lintel
#

can we just get a magnet link or something pinned in the chat? xd

upper flicker
#

I lowered it to 5s

hard lake
#

I'm pretty sure they don't do torrents

upper flicker
#

we're getting to the point now where the next bunch of people are gonna get out of class and bug us for etas again

#

brace yourselves

void void
distant cloak
#

meh

mossy lintel
#

does this mean forge has grounds to sue mojang?

distant cloak
#

lol

#

sued over the loading bar

void void
#

Damn it's the same

distant cloak
#

honestly, probably not. It's too vague

gusty idol
#

Hasn't that loading screen existed since multiple versions

hard lake
gusty idol
#

What does your host being ass have to do with you not knowing how to compile Paper

distant cloak
#

lol

mossy lintel
#

somehow your host is responsible for you compiling down to jar ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

gusty idol
distant cloak
#

I think some hosts don't allow a custom jar file

void void
#

also the server.properties from vanilla is changed

distant cloak
#

so they need to compile it

honest yacht
void void
#

In my opinion better

distant cloak
#

but it still doesn't make sense

gusty idol
#

Just don't give money to stupid Minecraft-only hosts and give money to a good host for a real VPS instead

distant cloak
#

I have a better idea

#

build your own server and show them how it's done

gusty idol
#

I have a better idea too

#

Steal the Hypixel servers

distant cloak
#

lol

mossy lintel
#

communist takeover of hypixel anyone?

hard lake
#

I wanted to make a crontab download the latest paper build and restart the server each day

gusty idol
#

What?

pulsar wigeon
#

Z please lift slowmode restrictions on no tables

#

you're oppressing my rights to spam discord

upper flicker
#

does discord even let me do that

pulsar wigeon
#

tbh no clue ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

daring gulch
#

Is it just me, or is the player running speed faster in 1.14 than previous versions?

hard lake
#

You can make people exempt iirc

cosmic raft
#

yes

tropic flame
#

if they have manage messages or manage channels permission, it does @upper flicker

upper flicker
#

I have to grant you manage messages

hard lake
#

rip

upper flicker
#

and I dont trust you with that perm

cosmic raft
#

but you need manage channel/manage messages

upper flicker
#

so no, it really it doesnt

pulsar wigeon
#

pshhh what do you mean. i'm totally trustworthy :^)

cosmic raft
#

however

void void
#

1 vCore(s)
2 GHz
6 GB RAM
25 GB . 7,99 $

cosmic raft
#

I can bump the slowmode time to 6 hours if you want

tropic flame
#

I'd still love to understand why md_5 release 1.14-pre5 builds at 4 am of this day instead of just waiting for the full release and then release the full build

static badge
#

try us

honest yacht
#

hey so whens the new build coming by boy said he needs it to start the new server and im tryna play some minecraft

tropic flame
#

it was literally going to release today

upper flicker
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

mossy lintel
#

eta?

hot gorge
#

lol

honest yacht
#

lol ive fought plenty of goblins in my time you think that scares me

pulsar wigeon
#

probably because he's australian and knew he would be sleeping when it came out. so he did the prerelease just to fuck with everyone

tropic flame
#

wat

#

@pulsar wigeon lol

distant cloak
#

estimated time arrival

limber knotBOT
#

when can we expect to see 1.14. I have a bunch of kids and shit crying.

upper flicker
#

yeah so do we

#

...

#

get the hint

limber knotBOT
#

=P

pulsar wigeon
#

yea, we have a bunch of kids like qxt

hot gorge
#

I had a user ask me yesterday when the sever was going to be updated to 1.14. Promptly ignored

tropic flame
#

yeah but it's like, when it was for 1.13 he was like no no PR me fixes my lazyass won't do it by itself

#

right now he went even further

honest yacht
#

but in all serious im just curious is it like a sometime today thing or next week thing?

limber knotBOT
#

see thats what happens and you smoke to much weed. You get all lazy and shit

hot gorge
#

It's a when it's done thing

upper flicker
#

so when we said we werent going to provide an eta

tropic flame
#

@honest yacht when it's out it's out

daring gulch
#

It will be ready in 3 months time

honest yacht
upper flicker
#

did you think we would just give one if you changed the phrasing?

#

assume July

#

then you can be happily surprised

olive garden
#

July, 2020?

#

yay

hard lake
#

why is optifine down

honest yacht
#

i assumed that command was for annoying kids coming and spamming needing it that second lol i was just curious about any general timeline

hot gorge
#

I don't think spigot has a 1.14 out yet that Paper can even work on. So there is the current timeline

limber knotBOT
#

Jan you around? I need that plugin "faggot control"

livid echo
#

@hard lake it got ddosd

#

jk idk why its down

upper flicker
#

probably everyone trying to check if they released a build

golden dock
placid thicket
#

welp, now i look like an idiot ๐Ÿ˜› i have compiled my own jars in the past, but our new host doesn't let us. unfortunatly my new internet doesn't have the upload for me to host anymore

hot gorge
#

|| they didn't||

tropic flame
#

lol optifine releasing a new build in the same day as the vanilla release

#

what a dream

livid echo
#

optifine dev has access to the minecraft release before everyone elese
exposed

daring gulch
#

Switch to a better host

upper flicker
#

maybe optifine dev is on vacation

#

maybe he's at work

hard lake
#

wrong server

upper flicker
#

maybe he's etc

#

optifine will come eventually

livid echo
#

i dont even want 1.14 i want 1.13

placid thicket
#

our host is cheap and reliable, we live with the rest because its like $7/mo

mossy lintel
#

@placid thicket why don't you use the ipfs public relay? It's pretty good if you provide a hash check along w/ the link

golden gust
#

If you're tracking snapshots, you're not really dealing with large changes between final pre/snapshot -> release

void void
golden gust
#

If spigot was releasing pre's, we'd probably have released pre5 shortly after spigot did

hard lake
daring gulch
#

How many GB you getting for that $7/mo?

livid echo
#

what if b1g rat

daring gulch
#

And I wouldn't consider a host reliable if they won't allow you to use custom jars

placid thicket
#

we are getting 6gbs and unlimited space

hard lake
#

I zipped my optifine from versions

finite wave
#

qxt sure

placid thicket
#

we can use custom jars, we just have to get them ourself

daring gulch
#

"unlimited" (tm)

livid echo
#

and how i do a b1g trust from u?

daring gulch
#

fair enough

hard lake
#

Don't be stupid

honest yacht
#

so are really refusing to give any slight idea of a timeline out of spite or

hard lake
#

Simple

upper flicker
#

we arent giving one because we dont have one

#

I dont know why you or anyone else thinks they are entitled to one

#

but you arent

finite wave
honest yacht
#

as in like how long do they usually take..

upper flicker
#

years

cosmic raft
#

time

livid echo
#

its gonna take as long as its gonna take

tropic flame
#

@honest yacht expect 1.14 builds on christmas

cosmic raft
#

while you're waiting, listen to some music

#

.1.14

limber knotBOT
#

(Korobi) George Michael - Careless Whisper (Official Video) - length 5m 2s - 2,576,901 likes, 92,451 dislikes (96.5%) - 494,916,499 views - georgemichaelVEVO on 2009.10.25

upper flicker
#

what do you base those on anyway

jade light
#

.1.13

upper flicker
#

is it just whatever

limber knotBOT
#

(Korobi) BTS (๋ฐฉํƒ„์†Œ๋…„๋‹จ) 'ํ”ผ ๋•€ ๋ˆˆ๋ฌผ (Blood Sweat & Tears)' Official MV - length 6m 4s - 5,818,741 likes, 164,257 dislikes (97.3%) - 441,040,807 views - ibighit on 2016.10.09

placid thicket
#

the time till release is <times asked> * 1 hours

cosmic raft
#

i have a formula

honest yacht
#

jesus christ should hav eknown a discord full of people who spend their free time developing mc mods to be full of autists who refuse to communicate like normal humans NotLikeThis

upper flicker
#

lol

golden dock
#

Why dont you just pin a message for people to read

cosmic raft
#

bye now

upper flicker
#

gets belligerent because we wont answer an eta

#

fuck off

limber knotBOT
#

@upper flicker [Auto] Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

tropic flame
#

dude is he a troll

daring gulch
#

I can picture him bashing his head against the keyboard now

tropic flame
#

he sounds like a troll it can only be

livid echo
#

ive seen people this stupid before but i think Logics is right

golden dock
#

i guess it wont be that long considering spigot have got a pre release 5 build

polar veldt
cosmic raft
#

new song for 1.14

#

:>

tropic flame
#

@golden dock I'd expect spigot getting a pre release 5 build as "it's gonna take a bit longer"

livid echo
#

actually im with him YEAH WHY DONT YOU GIVE US ETA ON THIS FREE THING YOU ARE GIVING US! YOU ARE WASTING EVERYONES TIME! FRICK U

limber knotBOT
#

@livid echo [Auto] Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

tropic flame
#

assuming they released it in the same day as 1.14

daring gulch
#

Waiting patiently for the first person to post a demand on github

golden dock
#

lol

upper flicker
#

Im waiting for the "Youre costing us money" argument

golden dock
#

I mean the game is generally played by alot of kids so what do you expect

cosmic raft
#

its ok

upper flicker
#

it always comes up

livid echo
#

shut up mate ill say eta as much as i want

cosmic raft
#

.1.14

limber knotBOT
#

@livid echo [Auto] Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

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(Korobi) Europe - The Final Countdown (Official Video) - length 4m 56s - 2,545,939 likes, 113,406 dislikes (95.7%) - 622,410,562 views - EuropeVEVO on 2009.10.25

livid echo
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shut the heck up imma say eta as much as i want

limber knotBOT
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@livid echo [Auto] Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

tropic flame
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I'm not requesting an eta

limber knotBOT
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@tropic flame [Auto] Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

tropic flame
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oh good that I'm not requesting an eta

jade light
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eta was a terrorist group in Spain

limber knotBOT
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@tropic flame [Auto] Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

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@jade light [Auto] Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

tropic flame
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hmm, what about an 3TA though

livid echo
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MEN WHY ARE YOU NOT UPDATING PAPER TO 1.14 YOU ARE COSTING MY SERVER MONEY 100 PLAYERS HAVE LEFT BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT MAKE UPDATE TO NEW VERSION I AM SUE YOU

tropic flame
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can I ask for an 3TA? /s

hard lake
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@livid echo are you downloading it or not?

mossy lintel
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i remember the good old days of b eta minecraft

limber knotBOT
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@mossy lintel [Auto] Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

livid echo
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@hard lake oh crap i forgot to download it 1 sec

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done

pulsar wigeon
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Eta is a programming language based on haskell and hosted on the JVM.

limber knotBOT
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@pulsar wigeon [Auto] Anyone requesting, or mentioning, an ETA will be fed to goblins.

pulsar wigeon
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tbh this bot response isn't helping the slowmode thing.

tropic flame
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Anyone requesting, or mentioning, a goblin will be fed to ETAs.

limber knotBOT
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@tropic flame [Auto] Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

livid echo
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can we say estimated time of arrival

tame cloud
tropic flame
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uh what just happened

livid echo
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legit made a joke and got kicked

tropic flame
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lmao I thought we were all getting banned

cosmic raft
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keep it up and you will

olive garden
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if you keep it down, he will

tame cloud
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Hey everyone

livid echo
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well i guess we have to switch the subject

finite wave
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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

pulsar wigeon
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Hey Jan. it's your favorite language

austere ivy
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ahem

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.1.14

limber knotBOT
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(Korobi) Europe - The Final Countdown (Official Video) - length 4m 56s - 2,545,946 likes, 113,406 dislikes (95.7%) - 622,414,338 views - EuropeVEVO on 2009.10.25

finite wave
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Nah @pulsar wigeon Too restrictive

austere ivy
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1.15 spigot build when

tropic flame
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.1.15

limber knotBOT
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(Korobi) Charlie Puth - "How Long" [Official Video] - length 3m 31s - 3,145,254 likes, 93,077 dislikes (97.1%) - 506,224,333 views - Charlie Puth on 2017.10.19

austere ivy
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1.16

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.1.16

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D:<

livid echo
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minecraft 2 pls

austere ivy
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2.16

atomic marten
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Hypixle

austere ivy
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.1.12

limber knotBOT
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(Korobi) One Direction - One Thing (Official Video) - length 3m 18s - 3,018,744 likes, 144,516 dislikes (95.4%) - 609,696,409 views - OneDirectionVEVO on 2012.01.13

finite wave
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How do i remove the โ€œblockedโ€ bars

atomic marten
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You donโ€™t

austere ivy
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.1.13

limber knotBOT
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(Korobi) BTS (๋ฐฉํƒ„์†Œ๋…„๋‹จ) 'ํ”ผ ๋•€ ๋ˆˆ๋ฌผ (Blood Sweat & Tears)' Official MV - length 6m 4s - 5,818,780 likes, 164,260 dislikes (97.3%) - 441,045,853 views - ibighit on 2016.10.09

mossy lintel
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is it wrong to download a cracked launcher to play the shareware version of minecraft?

finite wave
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.g shutup brian

limber knotBOT
austere ivy
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jan why do you hate me

finite wave
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@mossy lintel Do what you want

cosmic raft
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instead of spamming

austere ivy
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ah, thank you

gloomy sphinx
austere ivy
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how on earth

gloomy sphinx
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new 1.14 feature

austere ivy
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a

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When did slowmode become a thing?

finite wave
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.j9 lol

limber knotBOT
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Although Paper may startup with Java 9, plugins might fail to load and/or work as expected.

gloomy sphinx
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. j12

austere ivy
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Jan do you think J8 is best?

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.j8

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.spottedleaf

limber knotBOT
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07:53 <+DiscordBot> <pโ€‹ubโ€‹liโ€‹c โ€‹trโ€‹anโ€‹siโ€‹enโ€‹t โ€‹Spโ€‹otโ€‹teโ€‹dlโ€‹eaโ€‹f> went back under the see

austere ivy
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huh.

gloomy sphinx
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I heard paper 1.14 will be released tomorrow so that is good guys

livid echo
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burning of leafs.

tropic flame
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Paper releasing before Spigot and then going back to revert all changes and follow upstream would be beautiful /s

livid echo
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are we talking about the good stuff here