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hard lake
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lol

stiff yarrow
cosmic raft
quasi valley
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that really has become your favorite one hasnt it

stiff yarrow
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I know a good pepe when I see it

hard kernel
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wait is 1.14 out?

heavy rapids
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🐸 rare pepe

hard kernel
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i havent relogged

cosmic raft
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yes

void void
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me: mom, can we get pepeClown
mom: we have pepeClown at home
pepeClown at home: 🐸

hard kernel
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did spigot drop theirs?

quasi valley
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memeology

hollow lotus
quasi valley
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md is probably asleep thinking_eyes

fringe quartz
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Does the absence of the cached world data (lights, height maps) in 1.14 mean they'll be recomputed whenever one updates by default?

native thunder
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Yes

normal echo
native thunder
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Get recalculated when the chunk is loaded for the first time

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Or use --force-upgrade

fringe quartz
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Sweet

hard lake
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1.14 comes out

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optifine: wait

heavy rapids
hard lake
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apparently

heavy rapids
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lol

oblique ocean
left yacht
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I thought it was optifined?

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nvm

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and it's dead

lucid stag
granite raft
summer talon
hard lake
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All the people joining to ask for 1.14 build

heavy rapids
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here we go

hard lake
lost trail
fallen jungle
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BuT wHeREs oUr 1.14 bUiLd

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screams

flint lodge
heavy rapids
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damn you discord!

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😢

upper flicker
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<>

hard lake
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rumor says discord is shutting down

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💩

upper flicker
heavy rapids
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wait

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if you embed the link into <> it doesn't show the embed?

hard lake
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yes

heavy rapids
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TIL

hard lake
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gg

heavy rapids
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thx

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but now it's too late

fallen oracle
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TIL

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That's so cool.

void void
hard lake
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has joined the battle bus.

nova river
fallen jungle
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I'm going to guess that the next one to join has a name starting with T

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For no particular reason

finite wave
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It’ll be l

fallen jungle
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Hey Jan

void void
finite wave
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Hi

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Omg

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Hot it

fallen jungle
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Nooo Leafon let me down

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I swear I was going to say L

void void
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o-o"

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uhm, 1.14 is out. Any word from paper?

finite wave
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I wrote L

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Vut l

fallen jungle
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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

void void
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Yes yes, not requesting an ETA I'm just wondering if there's been any word out.

finite wave
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It’ll come

golden gust
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Like every other release

finite wave
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In a month or 9

fallen jungle
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One beautiful day

void void
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Not asking when it'll come out o-o

fallen jungle
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okay okay the next one's name starts with F

void void
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shush

fallen jungle
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just watch

left yacht
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tfw metrics can cause your main thread

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to freeze

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I wonder what garbage plugin is doing that

void void
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I'm just asking if any of the developers even know it's out yet, really. owo

wide hazel
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the word is "hey, 1.14 exists now."

finite wave
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It’ll be H @fallen jungle

fallen jungle
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We'll see on that

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You're not allowed to join with your alts or tell your friends to, though

wide hazel
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that's as far as we've gotten

void void
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Yeah, that's what I'm asking

austere ivy
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ok

wide hazel
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yep

void void
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if we've managed to make it to step 0, aka "do we even know it's out yet"

austere ivy
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1.14 has been out for an entire hour

heavy rapids
void void
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~w~" I'm not asking for a 1.14 build

finite wave
austere ivy
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I expect every single plugin and paper is out for 1.14?

fallen jungle
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Putting that fresh knowledge to good use I see

golden gust
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We know it's out

heavy rapids
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ofc jetp

wide hazel
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it's safe to assume the people working on Minecraft servers are aware when a new version releases

golden gust
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But it's pointless it being out for us until spigot updates

void void
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Yep! That's all I wanted to hear. Thanks electronic

fallen jungle
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I'd expect to have at least some word out by like october

austere ivy
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Holy guac, you guys are so entitled.

wide hazel
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birdbirdbird, the bird is the word..

austere ivy
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You do realize these are people working on this for you on their FREE TIME?

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They're not getting paid, they have no obligation.

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They're doing this out of the kindness of their hearts, so it'll be out when it's out, but you don't get to make demands here.

fallen jungle
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But my christian Minecraft server NEEDS 1.14 and I really WANT it!! <screams>

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Yeah I think we know that

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And am grateful

austere ivy
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I'm actually waiting for 1.14 myself ._.

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I'm skip-hopping from 1.12 to 1.14

fallen jungle
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Why skipping 1.13?

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1.13 is good

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the only bad is the overly easy loot from ocean stuff

hard lake
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just kidding

austere ivy
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1.13 has a lot of issues in terms of performance for me, and server performance. I'm hoping that 1.14 will be better

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wow thanks vix

fallen jungle
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You could've spent a little more effort on that easily ;')

austere ivy
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where's download

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DOWNLOAD NOW

hard lake
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yes

fallen jungle
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I mean idk, 1.13 has worked perfectly fine for me, including with Paper

vestal jasper
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why are the MC font pizels darker at the corners

wide hazel
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honestly I don't even know if 1.14 will be better for performance

austere ivy
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Performance is baaad compared to 1.12

fallen jungle
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Even our 10 year old Mac can run 1.13 okay

austere ivy
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I hope it is.

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HA

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RIGHT OKAY

wide hazel
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it should be, in theory

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but who knows

fallen jungle
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Assuming 40 fps is okay

austere ivy
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My Macbook Pro (2010) can run 1.12 for like 60-100 fps. In 1.13 it drops to 10-20.

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AND the mouse movement has a 1 second delay.

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AND all input has a half second delay.

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AND it crashes every 5 seconds.

fallen jungle
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Well then you brought a bad mac

austere ivy
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Jetp.

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You're missing the point.

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Everyone tells me that.

fallen jungle
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I know what you're talking about

austere ivy
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It's just that it got 10x worse from 1.12 to 1.13

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There's no reason it should do that

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And they didn't update anything that this Mac isn't compatible with.

fallen jungle
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I'm totally not being overly sarcastic because I'm tired and got actually useful stuff to do but I can't be bothered

austere ivy
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Oh sorry yeah it's just everyone tells me that.

fallen jungle
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But.. :(

austere ivy
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That I got a bad Mac. I know, it's just I can't get anything better right now. But still.

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And then Aikar can even tell you this, 1.13 compared to 1.12 server performance is AWFUL, and it's why EmpireMC is on 1.12

fallen jungle
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But okay really, the Mac can actually run it with at least 40-50 fps in 1.13.

austere ivy
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Even with all the fixes they did with it on paper.

fallen jungle
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But then again, ours is an actual Mac, not a macbook, so there's probably some difference in the processing power

austere ivy
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Oh yeah, of course.

fallen jungle
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and yes

austere ivy
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This is a laptop haha

fallen jungle
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I'm not denying the fact that 1.13 has worse performance in many areas

upper flicker
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the client running poorly isnt inherently related to the server

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idk what the point of that comparison was

austere ivy
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Z that's just a big reason I'm keeping my server on 1.12

heavy rapids
austere ivy
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I play on it myself a lot and I don't really want to play with 10 fps lol

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Z, reddit to discord chat integration when

upper flicker
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never

austere ivy
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oh

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:(

upper flicker
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thats just markdown

heavy rapids
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I wanted to link the rickroll bit.ly link to everyone asking for 1.14, while saying it's the first build :(

upper flicker
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discord just doesnt support that specific way for some reason

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they dont really do full markdown

heavy rapids
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probably to prevent scammer links

stiff yarrow
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one can only hope Mojang cares enough to improve server performance but historically I don't think they prioritize it

upper flicker
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how on earth

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would that help or hurt

austere ivy
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ahem

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tinyurl.

heavy rapids
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something like that

austere ivy
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this is proof c++ is better than java:

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is that c

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

heavy rapids
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God is dead

upper flicker
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this is how we end up with everyone removing sane features like hyperlinks

hard lake
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wtf

upper flicker
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"think of the children muh spammers"

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hyperlinkless web when

heavy rapids
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well, disguised hyperlinks on your webspace might be fine

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but discord doesn't want to be responsible if someone cloaks evil links on their platform

upper flicker
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discord isnt any more or less responsible than they would if someone clicked an obvious one

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hell who am I kidding, they'd just add another section to their ToS

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right after forced arbitration probably

heavy rapids
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there might be legislations where such provisions are included in law (looking at you, EU)

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then all their ToS aren't going to help

upper flicker
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oh we're going another layer deeper into the hypothetical

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no thanks

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Im taking my ladder and climbing out of this clusterfuck

rich robin
heavy rapids
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well, where I am from books need to include a disclaimer along the lines of "we were unable to check links after publication so be careful"

austere ivy
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Red_Inn, the 1.14 paper will be out when the 1.14 paper is out

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takes a while

upper flicker
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thats just as idiotic

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I wont make any arguments to the contrary

austere ivy
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you know, Z, you should add a bot so whenever someone joins, it says "1.14 will be out when 1.14 is out, don't ask" or smething

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

upper flicker
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no

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assumptions are bad

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if someone asks they can get a response

cosmic raft
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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

upper flicker
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otherwise they can be left alone

austere ivy
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hHHHEEYYY

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Look at this!

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From 1.14 changelog:

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"Lighting system rewrite
Moved light storage from chunks to a separate structure
Moved light calculation from all over the code to a self-contained place
Moved light computation off the main thread on the server
Added support for directional opacity of blocks
Used by slabs, stairs, snow layers, non-full-block dirt-related blocks and extended piston base blocks"

cosmic raft
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what about it?

wide chasm
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I hope it performs worse and I wouldn't be surprised.

austere ivy
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That's really good, supposedly light calculation should have better performance with the rewrite, but more IMPORTANTLY, this means that weird dark spot if you have slabs around everywhere from a light block won't be there.

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ADDITIONALLY, stairs won't have light peeking through!

cosmic raft
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yes

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old news

austere ivy
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Yeah I like it though :D

cosmic raft
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this has been talked about for months now

fringe quartz
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I like when I see bugfixes where the jira number is MC-92

cosmic raft
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:D

austere ivy
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I think Mojang hired a web developer

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that website looks veerry nice

native thunder
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They hired a lot of people this time

cosmic raft
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I prefer the old website

austere ivy
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I do too, Kash

wide hazel
austere ivy
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Mostly because of nostalgia

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But let's face it, new website is a lot more modern and approachable.

wide hazel
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"performance improvements"
"fish"

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"yes"

upper flicker
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more modern sure

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idk about approachable

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cant find a fucking thing on that website

cosmic raft
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BLOCK OF THE DAY

austere ivy
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yeah it's a pain to find things

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like WHERE'S THE DOWNLOAD

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"buy the game first!"

wide hazel
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you can find the block of the day very well

austere ivy
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I BOUGHT THE GAME

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"sign in!"

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WHERE'S THE DOWNLOAD

hard lake
austere ivy
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Later.

cosmic raft
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not that one

austere ivy
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Not that one.

cosmic raft
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this one

austere ivy
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The one with the trailer from Varide

upper flicker
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ye some dumb blog post to fill space about a block

austere ivy
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Vareide?

upper flicker
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thats what Im after

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thanks mojang

wide hazel
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lol

hard lake
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Yeah I loved that site

wide hazel
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you don't want to learn about a block, Z?

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it's important!

austere ivy
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eh not that one

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a bit later

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I liked the later description

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"Minecraft is a game about breaking and placing blocks. At first, people built structures to protect against nocturnal monsters, but as the game grew players worked together to create wonderful, imaginative things.
It can also be about adventuring with friends or watching the sun rise over a blocky ocean. It’s pretty. Brave players battle terrible things in The Nether, which is more scary than pretty. You can also visit a land of mushrooms if it sounds more like your cup of tea."

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I love that description.

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Lots of nostalgia ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Somehow, though, the UX is much better.

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You want download? It's right there.

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Want sign in? It's up there.

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Want buy? It's also there.

upper flicker
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yeah but they dont have anywhere to put all the other needless garbage

wide chasm
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Not gonna lie everything about the new site can fuck off

native thunder
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You need to login now to see the sever download

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And the client dl

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That sucks

hard lake
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I only like the new launcher

cosmic raft
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no you don't

hard lake
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yes I do

cosmic raft
gusty idol
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@hard lake Heyyyy

hard lake
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hi

gusty idol
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👋

cosmic raft
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not sure wtf you're talking about @native thunder

wide chasm
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The new launcher is better than the new site

austere ivy
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Gotta love redstonehelper.

upper flicker
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the site is just garbage

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its specifically designed to make it look like you do

native thunder
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Wtf. Last time I went to dl the client I couldn't find it until I logged in

austere ivy
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30 minutes after, already has all the things in a changelog.

upper flicker
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there's a link in the dropdown

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but its nowhere near as clear as the massive "DOWNLOAD" button

austere ivy
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Vix are you popular?

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OverMighty whose Vix to you

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hard lake
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nope

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@gusty idol who am I?

gusty idol
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A guy on the Discord Linux Discord server.

austere ivy
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Splash texts
Removed
Made by Notch!
The Work of Notch!
110813!
Hobo humping slobo babe!

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Wow that's bad formatting.

gusty idol
austere ivy
hard lake
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lol

austere ivy
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I wonder why they want to erase Notch from everything

gusty idol
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Hobo humping slobo babe
W h a t

austere ivy
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The splash was a nice ode to him.

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Yeah splash has all sorts of weird things haha.

upper flicker
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because every now and again notch will say something a little too edgy on twitter

austere ivy
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Hey but look it's alright!

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Now we have..

upper flicker
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and then the games "journalists" lose their shit

austere ivy
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"Water bottle!"

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and uh

upper flicker
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and then its all downhill

austere ivy
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"Rainbow turtle?"

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,_,

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Oh yeah, whenever someone gets the chance

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noteblock over emerald block

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8bit sound, pretty cool.

stiff yarrow
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caving to journalists is actually so silly

austere ivy
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Sounds like a square wav

left yacht
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everyone is easily offended in today's social media world.

austere ivy
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yeah that's why I unsubscribed to pewdiepie, VOX SAID HE WAS A NAZI /s

left yacht
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edgelords are dank

austere ivy
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hey, Titanic

pulsar wigeon
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journalists
lol

austere ivy
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👌

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"journalists"

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more like "paid complainer monkeys"

pulsar wigeon
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these so called "journalists" will just as well say "minecraft developers try to hide their connections to neonazi/misogynist/whatever founder"

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due to the splashes being removed

stiff yarrow
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I've never seen any neo-nazi statements from notch but feel free to prove me wrong as I'm not obsessively scanning his twitter

pulsar wigeon
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yea idk what it is tbh

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i don't care either

austere ivy
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okay wait so if 👌 is a white supremacist symbol now,

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what if I just..

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👌🏿

left yacht
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@stiff yarrow notch has only done edgy things afaik.

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he's an edgy meme lord

austere ivy
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Titanic

left yacht
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but people take things literal

wide hazel
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denying white privilege is a bit ehhhh- but honestly we're all over-sensitive about everything these days anyway. Hopefully it passes

left yacht
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wat

stiff yarrow
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I don't think those things would make him a nazi barty

pulsar wigeon
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the point isn't what he's done, it's what "journalists" will frame it as

upper flicker
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they do the same thing with random youtubers

austere ivy
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I don't think that anyone can really say anything to Notch that'll faze him

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I think he's kinda earned the right to do whatever on Twitter

left yacht
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notch is great

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you can try to insult him

upper flicker
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like theyre upset some guy in his basement with a camera is more famous than they are or something

left yacht
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he'll destroy you

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with words

pulsar wigeon
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everyone can do whatever on twitter.
but twitter has the right to ban you.
and people have the right to criticize you.

austere ivy
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he has enough money to buy a hitman on you

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so

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he has enough money to hire a hitman like 50 million times over

wide hazel
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journalism is important, but wildly abused

austere ivy
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it's not journalism anymore

pulsar wigeon
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there aren't 50 million of me, so whatever?

austere ivy
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Wiz you aren't a hitman ,_,

upper flicker
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game journalism has always been a shit show

pulsar wigeon
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how do you know ?

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i wouldn't tell you if i were

austere ivy
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I think https://optifine.net went down because of all the people checking if there's a build for 1.14

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lol

rotund atlas
stiff yarrow
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show me some notch tweets which are actually problematic and not just edgy opinions

austere ivy
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ahem

shell vine
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pr for what

upper flicker
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if a bunch of randoms are writing articles calling someone trash, most companies arent going to launch some PR campaign to try and salvage that persons reputation

austere ivy
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as you can see this is very reliable journalism

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from only the most credible source

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gaystarnews

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.com

lament hatch
austere ivy
limber knotBOT
austere ivy
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that's the tweet in question

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why did they bring mlp into this

pulsar wigeon
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tbh that shit is all semantics

wide hazel
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yes, Forge updated to 1.14 that quickly- then Optifine also updated that quickly.

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of course

pulsar wigeon
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optifine is separate from forge i thought?

wide hazel
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it might be now

stiff yarrow
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well those are definitely some maximum edge comments about transgender people

pulsar wigeon
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anyway the issue isn't people's opinions, it's that language wasn't equipped to handle these things

austere ivy
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it's not edgy

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it's called an opinion

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oh are opinions edgy nowadays?

pulsar wigeon
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edgy is an adjective

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opinion is a noun

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opinions can be edgy

austere ivy
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sure they can be.

pulsar wigeon
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that is one thing language is equipped to handle

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unlike the recent distinctions between gender and sex

shell vine
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he sold the game

austere ivy
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I'm just saying not every opinion that even SOMEWHAT talks about 1. race 2. gender 3. black people 4. muslims, is edgy.

pulsar wigeon
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no one else was either

austere ivy
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people have opinions that are different from the norm, that's why they're opinions.

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oh some other people seem to.

pulsar wigeon
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nossr was referring specifically to notch's tweets or whatever in that article

austere ivy
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oh.

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ehhh that doesn't seem very edgy to me.

pulsar wigeon
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he didn't say "comments about x topic are edgy" he said "those comments are edgy"

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l2read

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maybe this is why you're so bad at programming

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you can't even read

stiff yarrow
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its pretty edgy but I wouldn't say he was a racist or neo nazi

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its clear he has some pretty bad views on transgender people tho

austere ivy
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what are those views?

charred tangle
wide chasm
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"Developer Markus Persson, better known as Notch, has been criticized for saying that trans women only 'feel like they are' women."

pulsar wigeon
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dang beat me to it

white junco
austere ivy
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That's true.

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runs

stiff yarrow
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@austere ivy it was literally in the thing you linked me that you didn't read

austere ivy
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you can't touch me I did the runs thing when I put an actual opinion in chat.

pulsar wigeon
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i mean, like i said it comes down to things language can't handle

austere ivy
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I know I'm reading the article right now.

shell vine
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wait till u see what millions of rural people who barely go on the internet think

austere ivy
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I can't find a link to the original link lol.

crystal compass
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man spigot updated so damn fast

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mvp

austere ivy
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That's true, stef. Just because they feel like they are women or want to be women, or think they were born to be women, doesn't mean that their body thinks that they're a woman.

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Unfortunately, as much as people would like to believe, your body doesn't listen to what your brain wants.

void void
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spigot only pre-5 tho right?

pulsar wigeon
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the issue is you're not making a distinction between sex and gender

crystal compass
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yeah unfortunetly

wide chasm
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Wait, what did I say?

crystal compass
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still cool though

austere ivy
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I'm talking about sex, wiz.

pulsar wigeon
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nothing stef. tehbrian just sucks at reading

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and no you're not

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you're using both ambiguously

austere ivy
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Since gender "means something different" as of 5 years ago, I'm talking about sex.

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No I definitely am not.

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I'm talking about transgender people changing their sex.

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Because they "feel like they are" a woman or a man, so they want to change it to what they are.

pulsar wigeon
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you can't change your sex

austere ivy
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Is Notch's original tweet not true?

light coral
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you can with big enough scissors.

pulsar wigeon
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sex is defined by your chromosomes

austere ivy
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So then why is it called a "sex change"?

pulsar wigeon
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because it's a simple name for things like reassignment surgery, hormonal therapy, etc

native thunder
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Because people are bad at words

coarse urchin
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Apparently someone is sending "bad packets during logi " to my waterfall server every 10 seconds spamming the console 😕

unreal quarry
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If you have a dingaling, you're a dude. If you have a hooha, you're a dudette. Simple. End of discussion. Let's talk about 1.14 now

austere ivy
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Boom, there you go.

pulsar wigeon
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i mean, ^

austere ivy
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Barty, still a boy.

quasi valley
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realms doesnt work because it says it doesnt work for snapshots

austere ivy
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EVERY SINGLE CELL in your body points to you being a boy.

pulsar wigeon
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every cell in your body points to you having XY chromosomes

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not to being a boy

austere ivy
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How on earth do you think forensics find the sex of a person after death?

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Correct.

unreal quarry
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If you chop it off you're a unic (sp?)

native thunder
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Did Brian just reverse his position?

shell vine
light coral
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they measure hip girth. it's rough being a guy with birthing hips you know.

pulsar wigeon
#

eunuch

#

but that's chopping the balls off usually

native thunder
#

Eunuch

pulsar wigeon
#

not the penis

austere ivy
#

It points to you being XY.

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And XY is a boy.

pulsar wigeon
#

brian, what's XXY then?

austere ivy
#

Boy, male, they're synonyms.

#

an exception.

upper flicker
austere ivy
#

Do we make bathrooms for XXY people?

upper flicker
#

turns around and leaves

light coral
#

lol

vestal jasper
#

I mean those are exceptions not the rules peepoJuice

unreal quarry
#

Save yourself, z

native thunder
#

The point is to make you sterile so you can't fuck the concubines

austere ivy
#

Genetic mishaps happen all the time.

pulsar wigeon
#

oh boi it's 1 pm

unreal quarry
#

It's too late for me

pulsar wigeon
#

lunch time is over

#

lol kenny. yes

light coral
#

est? niiice

austere ivy
#

And we shouldn't, Kenny, because that's racist.

pulsar wigeon
#

so we should make bathrooms for xxy people

quasi valley
#

but then again whats xxy

crystal compass
#

transgender = against gods will

pulsar wigeon
#

otherwise we're sexist?

quasi valley
#

^

austere ivy
#

XXY is intersex I believe.

crystal compass
#

no

austere ivy
#

No?

pulsar wigeon
#

or should we make all bathrooms ungendered to prevent being sexist

native thunder
#

Lmfao

crystal compass
#

people complaining about that gender shit are usually retarded

#

= ignore

austere ivy
#

Hold on one second.

unreal quarry
#

Unisex bathrooms are a thing

austere ivy
#

Oh shoot wait no.

#

Hold on.

pulsar wigeon
#

i know

gusty idol
#

Why are you talking about unisex bathrooms

#

What did I miss

pulsar wigeon
#

unirace bathrooms are also a thing, for the past 60ish years

austere ivy
#

Alright, again, an abnormality.

#

Some people are born with 11, or 12, toes, one too many fingers, that's an abnormality. The majority, by a very high amount are people that are either XX or XY, and are either a boy or a girl.

#

You cannot treat everyone as the exception.

unreal quarry
#

Can I choose to be a Trex?

austere ivy
#

"Oh some people have one too many chromosone!" Yeah, some people, a very rare occurance.

pulsar wigeon
#

actually i can treat everyone however the fuck i want

unreal quarry
#

Cause I want to be a Trex

austere ivy
#

That's right, you can, Wiz.

pulsar wigeon
#

so that's verifiably false

quasi valley
#

Billy, you can

#

be the greatest trex you ought to be

pulsar wigeon
#

for example, i treat you as a retard tehbrian.

unreal quarry
#

I'm now a Trex! Rawr!

#

Fear me

pulsar wigeon
#

i don't care what you identify as

rotund atlas
stiff elbow
austere ivy
#

Great, that's your choice, wiz.

gusty idol
#

Rawr

austere ivy
#

And I'm not going to treat transgender women like they're actual women because if you take any cell in their body, it would point to them being a boy, or "GeNder isn'T sEx" SO XY.

gusty idol
#

But they're not a girl GWchadMEGATHINK

austere ivy
#

So just like you can treat me like something I'm not, Wiz, I can treat others however I want.

celest kestrel
gusty idol
#

Can you just change into a girl?

austere ivy
#

So I don't find Notch's tweet edgy.

#

It's an opinion.

pulsar wigeon
#

that's your opinion

#

you've already said that

gusty idol
#

Can you really just casually change your sex?

austere ivy
#

It's not edgy.

#

Dictionary time.

pulsar wigeon
#

we're just saying it doesn't change any facts. and some people are also expressing that they find the opinion edgy

quasi valley
#

edgy is everything a majority defines as edgy you know

austere ivy
#

EDGY:
tense, nervous, or irritable: he became edgy and defensive.
• (of a musical performance or piece of writing) having an intense or sharp quality.
2 informal at the forefront of a trend; experimental or avant-garde: their songs combine good music and smart, edgy ideas.

stiff yarrow
#

brian didn't you call notch a nazi or some shit earlier

austere ivy
#

No I didn't.

quasi valley
#

not what YOU think is not edgy

pulsar wigeon
#

i mean

#

edgy is an opinion too

austere ivy
#

It's not the informal defintiion because it's not the "forefront" of a trend, this is very common and normal views 50 years ago, even 20 years ago.

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And it's not the first, obviously.

unreal quarry
#

The problem for me, wiz, that it's becoming problematic. Like you said, I too don't care wtf someone identifies as. But if I see a dude and I call him a dude I don't appreciate getting yelled at or called names because that person identifies as a chick. It's confusing. It's starting unnecessary fights, and seems to maybe eventually become law then we're all fucked

austere ivy
#

What kinda dictionary you using, barty?

pulsar wigeon
#

yea we're fucked anyway

stiff yarrow
#

@unreal quarry I agree with you billy

pulsar wigeon
#

yea barty what dictionary is that?

slim nymph
#

ok this is a good point to just close discord before i cringe any more

pulsar wigeon
#

when i look up retard in my dictionary, it says:
retard, n.

  1. TehBrian
  2. Spottedleaf
#

:^)

austere ivy
#

I get mad about this because this is what you're seeing on the extremist sides and with the wonder of social media, it's getting to be a somewhat popular view.

native thunder
#

Ouch. Tfw somone is above leaf

austere ivy
#

And this is very bad for society as a whole.

pulsar wigeon
#

you're bad for every bit of society you touch brian

#

hopefully you can keep the exposure limited

austere ivy
#

Having to ask someone's gender pronouns before you even talk to them is so backwards.

quasi valley
#

wasnt your abortion discussion purely extremist side arguments? 👀

austere ivy
#

Kenny, no.

stiff yarrow
#

if someone wants to be a girl then I'll treat them like they are a girl to the best of my ability

gusty idol
#

Just refer to them as "they" smh

#

No need to ask for their gender, easy fix

austere ivy
#

Have you?

#

Can you read?

#

I literally just said "on the extremist side"

#

And if you look at facebook or any social media, you can see people buying into this.

stiff yarrow
#

thats normal @quasi valley

austere ivy
#

And also stupid.

unreal quarry
#

@gusty idol that's when they start taking offense for lack of acknowledgement. It's happened before in history

austere ivy
#

Any normal person calling me a "her," who cares?

gusty idol
austere ivy
#

So what? It's a mistake.

#

I can correct them and move on. It's not okay to get offensive when someone misgenders you.

void void
slim nymph
#

"I find it stupid to declare information I know I will have to correct people 30+ times as I introduce myself to my students" - that's a pretty dumb view brian

finite wave
#

Stfu

#

@austere ivy *

crystal compass
#

Did they fix the bullshit entity movement lag in 1.14?

slim nymph
#

supposively sam

finite wave
#

Well trans people are weird imo, but let them do theirs.

crystal compass
#

I hope so

#

my snapshot server was running 300 ticks behind if there was 90 irongolems

#

Lol

finite wave
#

Huh

austere ivy
#

I don't know, Aikar, I think that one look at someone and you can usually, almost always (and this has not failed us for all of society and time), tell someone's gender.

#

Have you, in the real world, had to correct people on your gender, more than say, 2 times?

slim nymph
#

you said you find it stupid the teacher declared their pronouns

finite wave
#

Just Brian stfu with your stupid discussions

austere ivy
#

If it's stupid then why are you in it, Jan.

#

Barty, stop putting words in my mouth.

wide chasm
#

It wouldn't be the first time I couldn't figure out someone's gender tbh

slim nymph
#

why is it stupid to ensure that people your going to spend a lot of time with, know your proper pronounds, and avoid constantly having to tell people the same thing over and over

austere ivy
#

Wow, that's happened a whole 1 time out of all the people you've met in your life?

pulsar wigeon
#

when i was 12 or so people mistook me for a girl a lot since i had a ponytail

#

so yes

wide chasm
#

It happens more often than once actually

finite wave
#

Go somewhere else

pulsar wigeon
#

(actually i still have a ponytail, but i also went through puberty since)

unreal quarry
#

LMAO me too wiz, but I chopped it off at age 5 cuz I didn't like being called "pretty girl" all the time

pulsar wigeon
#

I'm a pretty girl flutters eyelashes

stiff yarrow
#

trans people have an incredibly difficult life, they aren't really accepted by most of society, and often t heir families don't accept them either, I don't mind treating them like human beings

wide chasm
#

This is the story of how Billy got bullied

austere ivy
#

how on earth did you have a ponytail when you were 5

pulsar wigeon
#

wat

finite wave
#

Brian not everyone is bald like you

pulsar wigeon
#

by not cutting it?

austere ivy
#

Jan I have 15" hair.

unreal quarry
#

My mom wanted a girl. I was first born. Best she could do was give me long hair.

pulsar wigeon
#

you realize girls can grow ponytails at 5 y.o too right?

austere ivy
#

Also 1.14 takes forever to load.

crystal compass
#

woah

austere ivy
#

sorry mistyped

crystal compass
#

incredible

wide chasm
#

We're measuring in inches, can someone translate that for me?

austere ivy
#

like 3" hair

finite wave
#

I think we should ban Brian for starting controversy.

slim nymph
#

_> ok thats my cue to leave

fluid escarp
wide chasm
#

Okay, thanks

pulsar wigeon
#

my hair goes to my waist pretty much

#

idk how much that is

austere ivy
#

I think we should ban Jan for being rude.

finite wave
#

@fallen jungle It was an I

fallen jungle
#

R I think

#

It was Red something

austere ivy
#

Alright 1.14 finally loaded, see you folks.

finite wave
#

M

unreal quarry
#

My dad wanted to turn it to a mullet. That's about the time I chopped it off with scissors myself ^_^

quasi valley
#

let's just ban everyone

austere ivy
#

holy guac I never said that

finite wave
#

@fallen jungle Oh someone joined beforr

austere ivy
#

why are you labelling me as trying to end transgenderism because I have a different opinion than you?

finite wave
#

I see

fallen jungle
#

Okay

#

The next one is S

quasi valley
#

barty, that's even less constructive than I am thonk

unreal quarry
#

That's long, wiz

austere ivy
#

like that's very silly and very backwards to any constructive conversation

#

oh okay

unreal quarry
#

Mine was just below shoulder blades

austere ivy
#

can you go away then?

pulsar wigeon
#

yea mine's been growing for a while

austere ivy
#

oh okay ditto

pulsar wigeon
#

you're free to leave if you want brian

austere ivy
#

just kidding I think you're lovely

pulsar wigeon
#

no one is forcing you to be here

wide chasm
#

My viewpoint on political stuff is basically "do whatever you want, don't bother me please"

austere ivy
#

I am actually going to

#

gonna go play 1.14

unreal quarry
#

I did let my hair grow back out in high school, but not a pony tail. More like Kurt Cobain style

pulsar wigeon
#

tbh i hate the length where's it's like shoulder length but not long enough for a ponytail

quasi valley
#

lol now I actually have to defend him, he was far from saying that

pulsar wigeon
#

cuz then you can't tie it up and it gets in your face and everywhere else

austere ivy
#

I also did not say that, Barty.

finite wave
hard lake
#

I hate SJWs

finite wave
#

Hmm

pulsar wigeon
#

having it tied is pretty convenient

austere ivy
#

POPULAR VIEW

#

WHAT POPULAR VIEW?

#

THE POPULAR VIEW THAT YOU HAVE TO ASK SOMEONE'S GENDER PRONOUNS BEFORE YOU TALK TO THEM

pulsar wigeon
#

popular view that you're retarded

wide chasm
#

Calm down with the caps

austere ivy
#

Stop taking things out of context.

pulsar wigeon
#

also tf we just went over that not being the case

austere ivy
#

whoops capslock broke.

#

ANYWHO

pulsar wigeon
#

that's absolutely not a popular view

#

objectively

austere ivy
#

I'm going to go lay 1.14 I'm getting 1 fps on Discord here

pulsar wigeon
#

that's not even opinion

#

like you can do a survey on that

austere ivy
#

Popular view on tumblr, wi

#

wiz

#

;)

#

okay bye now

cold edge
mighty current
stiff yarrow
#

brian most of your views are rooted in your own sheltered world view

#

you need to get out more

#

and age more

pulsar wigeon
#

tumblr is a good sample representing the population as a whole
LUL LULLULULULULU

hard lake
#

wtf

woven otter
#

but where is 1.14

pulsar wigeon
#

also tbh i think until tumblr banned porn, that wasn't a popular view on tumblr either

quasi valley
#

then again people like barty are not really helping him do that

unreal quarry
#

I wish I had a basement growing up. We don't have them here in houston

#

Would have been badass and I would have never moved out

hard lake
#

tumblr technically banned furries

native thunder
#

Honestly I'm surprised there's not more basements in Texas

stiff yarrow
#

@unreal quarry you can live an exciting life in your moms living room

native thunder
#

I didn't have one in Dallas either

stiff yarrow
#

its great here come join me

pulsar wigeon
#

are you in billy's mom's living room nossr?

#

was that the implication there? 👀

unreal quarry
#

:o

#

I'm still not calling you dad...

stiff yarrow
pulsar wigeon
#

wow big boi there

native thunder
#

Dw nossr. He'll come around

#

These things take time

mighty current
#

i was like him early high school

vestal jasper
#

When your cat begs to be pet and then decides to start attacking and love biting your hand because you dared to pet him without his consent

stiff yarrow
#

my cat is a lover boi who won't get upset

unreal quarry
#

Actually, I haven't talked to my mom in years... She ended up marrying my ex's brother then started playing favorites with my kids. So I just stopped going around

stiff yarrow
#

this shit needs to be a tv series billy

#

life of billy

vestal jasper
#

Mine doesn't either but he has separation anxiety and he gets pissed when I leave the house without him

#

But he's also excited that I'm back

#

So he both loves and hates me at the same time rn

stiff yarrow
#

everytime I think I've had a fucked up life billy drops a one liner

unreal quarry
#

Want more, nossr? My ex's brother is also her cousin (same mom, dad's are brothers). I had a kid with her, then my mom married her brother.. that makes my ex my aunt and my daughter my cousin.

buoyant crater
stiff yarrow
native thunder
#

Jesus

wide chasm
#

wut

native thunder
#

Yall need some Jesus in your life

unreal quarry
#

Lol

pulsar wigeon
#

roll tide

#

not sure if that's accurate but that was too convoluted to draw a family web so i'm going with it

#

sometimes a DAG just doesn't cut it for family trees

vestal jasper
#

I just saw my dad for the first time in 7 years a few weeks ago peepoJuice

stiff yarrow
#

I've been there vic

vestal jasper
#

to my dad's apartment?

atomic marten
#

a one night stand, dont worry about it

vestal jasper
#

well he is bi

stiff yarrow
vestal jasper
#

noss are you my second dad peepoLove

atomic marten
stiff yarrow
atomic marten
#

think need to restrict redstone loops

stiff yarrow
atomic marten
#

Give me your kings

stiff yarrow
dapper nacelle
#

is there any date or aimed time for which paper 1.14 will release

#

I'd expect a little over a month

stiff yarrow
unreal quarry
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

native thunder
#

.1.14

limber knotBOT
void void
#

still no paper 1.14

limber knotBOT
#

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dense hill
fallen oracle
#

Welcome

orchid pelican
#

Is spigot 1.14 out or just the pre 5

stiff yarrow
#

pre5

orchid pelican
#

K thanks

stiff yarrow
#

.g au time

limber knotBOT
orchid pelican
#

Why did I have to start an addition to my plugin right before a release

#

I’m running out of time erg

stiff yarrow
#

branches son

viscid swan
merry shard
unreal quarry
#

~750 ppl on here.. Jesus when did it get so crowded?

glossy crater
#

1.14 totally removed the option to disable vbos ?

#

Game crashes all the time

quartz vapor
glossy crater
#

So no 1.14 for me

atomic marten
pseudo island
atomic marten
#

just switch to minetest

glossy crater
#

Well it’s a work laptop I’m playing from

pseudo island
#

oof noo not minetest

glossy crater
#

As I’m abroad

quartz vapor
#

any news on 1.14 paper?

glossy crater
#

I believe it has integrated

unreal quarry
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

unreal quarry
#

@quartz vapor ^

quartz vapor
#

fair enough

orchid pelican
#

So how bad are the api changes I haven’t had a chance to look

glossy crater
#

Read Spigot thread

#

md_5 updated it

orchid pelican
#

Please tel me they didn’t remove investory holders

atomic marten
#

i dont like the new world animation

wide chasm
#

InventoryHolders are still here

autumn knot
#

.eta

limber knotBOT
#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

#

Thats the best response

glossy crater
#

@atomic marten I thought it would be some fancy background stuff

#

I really liked the loading bar

atomic marten
#

yea thats nice

unreal quarry
#

Screenshot it. I'm at work and haven't seen it

atomic marten
#

granted that stuff tends to slow down that stuff just a wee bit

#

cause stuff

#

Translation: Loading bars tend to slow odwn loading screens

unreal quarry
#

Nah, render is a diff thread than process

limber knotBOT
#

.eta

#

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

atomic marten
#

its still communicating progress

teal arrow
atomic marten
#

they added give feedback and Report bugs buttons though think

orchid pelican
#

Ok my plugin is safe haha

unreal quarry
#

I bet mojira mods are going to love that.. they get enough trash reports as is lol

cold edge
#

Ok, can anyone tell me how development on PaperMC works? I might be able to help in my free time.

unreal quarry
atomic marten
#

You read issues, asked to be assigned, read the man pages and fix them

limber knotBOT
#

Wait what is vbos?

cold edge
#

thx @unreal quarry

unreal quarry
#

VBOs

atomic marten
limber knotBOT
#

ye

glossy crater
#

They cause my game to crash

golden gust
#

I'd suggest reading the contribution guide, I wouldn't say that we're any different from standard projects other than the "beautiful and lovely" patch system

unreal quarry
#

Long live patches

#

\o/

cold edge
#

@atomic marten Yes I know how general development works, but it wasn't clear for me how PaperMC is organized.

atomic marten
cold edge
#

@golden gust That threw me off :D

slim nymph
#

@pseudo island seed values are configurable so you can change them to not use 100% vanilla structure placement. if you use vanilla seeds, your worlds seed can be brute forced

atomic marten
#

meh

glossy crater
#

RIP use VBOs

pseudo island
#

Thanks Aikar, I was planning on making my seed harder to find

atomic marten
#

Vsync is on by default

slim nymph
#

a member of my community proof of concepted it and is able to crack world seeds in a day or so

unreal quarry
#

Papers system is much easier to contrib to than spigots, imho

glossy crater
#

Disabling it in options file doesn't make any difference

pseudo island
#

Scicraft has a seed cracker Aikar

#

that's why I suddenly cared a lot about that lol

slim nymph
#

probably from my guy 😛 he was planning to release his stuff

#

he gave me time to mitigate

cold edge
#

What did they do? Made VBOs default and unchangeable?

slim nymph
#

and we got it added as an option to spigot, though noone knows to change them

atomic marten
#

i dont think some people are going to bother

#

they just figure hiding /seed is enough

slim nymph
#

though he was only planning to release first tier. he used GPU power to brute force a 2nd stage

calm remnant
flint sluice
atomic marten
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) @SeargeDP (Searge): The question about the VBO option in the latest snapshots came up a few times. It's been removed on purpose and VBO… https://t.co/ee07165gsH (5 months and 16 days ago)

glossy crater
#

And there is no way to work around it ?

atomic marten
#

nope

#

it might be required for their new rendering

cold edge
#

Why would you want to work around it?

atomic marten
#

my frames is about 2x with it off

heavy rapids
#

some really really old gfx cards & drivers might have problems with it

#

VBOs are like, what, OpenGL 2.1?

atomic marten
#

and then 1.14 gives me 1/2 the frames i had on 1.13 O.o

heavy rapids
#

what GPU, what OS, what driver?

atomic marten
#

Arch Linux
GTX 1060
NVIDIA 418.56

#

and im comparing idle frames after everything is loaded

glossy crater
#

It was nice playing Minecraft

#

Now my plans for a MMORPG server are ruined

void void
#

what

hard lake
#

aRcH LiNUx

atomic marten
#

Problem?

upper flicker
hard lake
#

no

void void
#

where did you get that z

hard lake
#

I like arch

upper flicker
#

I found it laying on the side of the road

#

what are you a cop

atomic marten
#

oh ok

void void
#

no i'd like to find one as well

hard lake
upper flicker
#

apparently its from the dlang server

void void
#

wew

upper flicker
hard lake
#

I think I have one from sharex

#

and dlinux

shell vine
#

damn, light updates still lag the client horribly

atomic marten
#

Theres apparently a Kali Linux support discord..

hard lake
#

ytho

atomic marten
#

idek

hard lake
#

parents should also know what not to let kids use

pure mango
atomic marten
#

smh i get more frames in warframe than i do minecraft while flying around

atomic marten
#

1.13 is fine

hard lake
#

arch/bspwm

glossy crater
#

weird flex

#

I don't even get to see my fps

hard lake
#

No compositor

atomic marten
#

i just cant get into tiling window managers

limber knotBOT
#

Hi! Is there a way to find out which player caused an entity / a monster to spawn?

hard lake
#

why not?

#

They're simple, I recommend bspwm to a beginner

atomic marten
#

no idea, its not like im not somewhat used to it

#

I use tmux all the time

heavy rapids
#

tallcraft, you could keep track of the spawn reason in the spawn event

hard lake
#

ya make your keybinds for things and get used to them, it's pretty nice

heavy rapids
#

and then find out who did it. probably depends on the spawn reason...

atomic marten
#

whats the topbar from?

limber knotBOT
#

Yes, ive seen that field. But there is no direct reference to a player, is there

hard lake
#

polybar?

heavy rapids
#

afaik no. what spawn reasons are you trying to cover?

desert depot
atomic marten
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oh

limber knotBOT
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phantom spawn in specific

hard lake
limber knotBOT
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i want to be able to disable phantom spawns for specific players

atomic marten
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without composting iget all kinda of screen tearing think

hard lake
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Yeah, don't disable vsync

heavy rapids
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mh, I've seen people check the target of the spawned phantom entity. I don't know if this always works tho.

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xfce ftw btw

hard lake
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But it causes some delay with a compositor

limber knotBOT
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xfce seems pretty nice. still using gnome.

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but... its not the best.

hard lake
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xfce is rock solid

heavy rapids
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^

atomic marten
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gnome is fine too

heavy rapids
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I would kill for xfce

limber knotBOT
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well gnome is slow

hard lake
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Gnome is a bit janky

limber knotBOT
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that too

hard lake
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But I like gnome

atomic marten
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are you not just installing the core packages for gnome?

limber knotBOT
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does xfce support fractional display scaling?

hard lake
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Yes it does?

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DPI?

limber knotBOT
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gnome doesnt, its a mess.

hard lake
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It's in settings manager

heavy rapids
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All these fancy terms

atomic marten
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gnome has DPI

limber knotBOT
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you can only set 1x or 2x etc.

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well i need 1.5x

hard lake
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Appearance -> Fonts, default is set to 96

heavy rapids
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meanwhile I'm sitting here on a 4:3 1024x768

atomic marten
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you can edit it else where

hard lake
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Gnome does have it

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in gnome-tweak

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Go to Appearance

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It's set to 1.00 by default

atomic marten
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if you install all the gnome shenanigans then its slow, but if you just install the core parts of gnome, its fine

hard lake
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19.04 ran pretty smooth

heavy rapids
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mh

atomic marten
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I want to use pantheon thugh think

limber knotBOT
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appearence? i dont have it ther.e

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weird.

heavy rapids
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I haven't used something other than xfce for a long time

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but

hard lake
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Did you install gnome-tweak?

limber knotBOT
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yes

left yacht
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.eta

limber knotBOT
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Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

heavy rapids
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wasn't gnome the one with the hot corner?

limber knotBOT
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i use xrandr --output eDP-1 --scale 1.25x1.25 at the moment. its pretty messy though

hard lake
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user themes?

atomic marten
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the optional hot corner yea

hard lake
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Hm

heavy rapids
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optional? I never found out how

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and it annoyed the fuck out of me

atomic marten
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its not on by default

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on arch distros

heavy rapids
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it was on openSUSE

hard lake
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Never mind

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It's in Windows

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Tallcraft check this

hard lake
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Yeah

limber knotBOT
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no dpi options

hard lake
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Windows

heavy rapids
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that window bar

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so much space wasted 😢

upper flicker
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yeah idk why gnome insists on such massive elements

limber knotBOT
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i dont have it there either >D

upper flicker
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every good theme takes them back down to normal

limber knotBOT
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:D

upper flicker
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Well given that youre on ubuntu

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and not a new ubuntu judging by that theme

atomic marten
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nice thing about wayland is i dont need to have vsync on