general

[finite wave]

🧱🧱

[woven otter]

need something more dum than nou

[upper flicker]

well and then IJ always says "get the tool files with the wrapper and not just the binary"

and then I do that and the whole file goes red and bitches

yet gradle runs it perfectly outside of IJ

should just move everything to the kotlin build scripts and see if IJ is any more useful

[woven otter]

Should just switch to Eclipse tbh

[upper flicker]

been there done that

no thanks

[woven otter]

but clearly it's better. have you seen all of those pro coders using Eclipse

[finite wave]

Kotlin DSL is pretty complete

@woven otter Not sure i would call choco pro, but he knows what he is doing.9’

[woven otter]

is that some sort of meme

dunno many memes about spigot members except for md_5

[finite wave]

Eclipse is a meme

[woven otter]

yes that's why you should switch to notepad++ instead

[finite wave]

Mspaint

[woven otter]

MS Paint IDE

[upper flicker]

no just mspaint

[woven otter]

no just z

[pearl ibex]

Z. :>

Look at that... every single project dev is online. :>

@static badge Ur retarded.

[woven otter]

https://hatebin.com/tquedftlaj
File cfgFile = new File(getDataFolder(), "config.yml");
wait wot. Whomsdve being stupid here

[void void]

u

lv

latvia... we call y'all here "extra toe people" xd

@void void estonia sure makes some interesting music ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OGMrZKIjKU||

[limber knot]

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[void void]

ya

[woven otter]

"extra toe people" wtf

[void void]

"lisavarvas", for short lv

geddit

[woven otter]

where are you from lol

[void void]

estonia

[woven otter]

oh fellow brother

[finite wave]

https://youtu.be/0vdmNYvK30M

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) Suspekt - Hun Blev Bare Så Glad - length 3m 14s - 2,543 likes, 319 dislikes (88.9%) - 626,532 views - taburecords on 2016.12.30 - NSFW****

[finite wave]

Reminds me of this

[woven otter]

imagine girl stripping and seeing that

[finite wave]

Hun blev bare så glad

[void void]

still would smash

:^)

[finite wave]

Hey man

Oral sex is a thing

No matter where the mouth is i guess

[void void]

yes

[limber knot]

oh

[void void]

exactly my thoughts

[limber knot]

so is that what they mean by talking out of your ass

[void void]

lol

[limber knot]

Hello

May i ask a question

how can i use paper mc in intellij using Maven repo

the maven coordinates are in the readme

https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper#how-to-plugin-developers

[limber knot]

coordinates, mini?

<groupId>com.destroystokyo.paper</groupId>

<artifactId>paper-api</artifactId>

<version>1.13.2-R0.1-SNAPSHOT</version>

those are called maven coordinates

as they define where to find an artifact in a repo

https://maven.apache.org/pom.html#Maven_Coordinates

[finite wave]

Ey German guy

[limber knot]

Ey Danish gal

[finite wave]

No

[limber knot]

oh god maven's even got terminology worse than its choice of config "languages"

[finite wave]

Xml is shit

[tropic flame]

does Gradle still use groovy?

[limber knot]

if you want, yes

or you can use kotlin

[finite wave]

^

[limber knot]

or any other plugin which enables some other lang

[ornate spindle]

has anyone here ever used mixin before? how tf does one even read code made with it

[normal echo]

What are you struggling to read?

[ornate spindle]

the annotations

@Inject(method = "<init>", at = @At("RETURN")) like that for example

[limber knot]

that injects something at the end of the constructor

<init> is the ctor

[normal echo]

^^ if there's further At annotations you don't get https://github.com/SpongePowered/Mixin/wiki/Injection-Point-Reference

[limber knot]

was about the say, mixin is nicely documented

[pulsar widget]

Hey guys, is it just me or does the download button now download a zip file containing the source instead of a compiled jar file?

[limber knot]

which download button?

[pulsar widget]

The paper 1.13 and 1.12 download button

[limber knot]

where.....

[pulsar widget]

https://papermc.io/downloads#Paper-1.12
https://papermc.io/api/v1/paper/1.12.2/1613/download

[void void]

@ornate spindle what ya doing with mixins?

[limber knot]

that downloads a jar for me

yep, it properly downloads paperclip

[pulsar widget]

Downloads paper-1613.jar.zip for me, which is weird. .jar.zip?

[limber knot]

did you try opening it? whats inside?

[pulsar widget]

The sourcecode

[void void]

source code?

[pulsar widget]

Yes, the paper sourcecode

[limber knot]

not sure what to say, works for me 🤷

[unreal quarry]

Don't use IE

[pulsar widget]

I'm using the latest firefox

[unreal quarry]

IE sees jars as zip and tries to be smart

[normal echo]

How do you know it's the source code?

[void void]

jar is technically a zip file ;)

[unreal quarry]

Then Firefox is trying the same b.s.

[pulsar widget]

Hm

[normal echo]

Do the files end in .class or . java?

[unreal quarry]

There's probably a setting to disable it

[pulsar widget]

Oh its .class, so it's compiled

What kind of setting?

[unreal quarry]

Idk. A stupid one, no doubt

Welcome to the carebear age

[normal echo]

You can just rename the file to .jar and I'm pretty sure you're good

[pulsar widget]

Yea chrome works, thanks

[ornate spindle]

@void void I'm just curious what it is so that I can understand sponge more, especially the optimisation parts

[finite wave]

CombatPets | 1.13.2+ [Paid]
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Lol

[void void]

sponge is using bytecode manipulation on runtime, instead of dealing with decompiling and patching @ornate spindle

like paper

[ornate spindle]

yeah ik it does that, I just find mixin to be harder to understand than patches if that makes sense

[void void]

mixins are bit harder to use

that's all imo

if you want to try out mixins, you can do that on paper as well. i made a mixin loader project for that

.g OrionMinecraft/Orion

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://github.com/OrionMinecraft/Orion -- GitHub - OrionMinecraft/Orion: Mixin loader for Paper: "Mixin loader for Paper. Contribute to OrionMinecraft/Orion development by creating an account on GitHub."

[static badge]

What does using mixins get you

[ornate spindle]

I don't actually plan to use mixins, I just want to be able to read sponge so that I might be able port optimisations from it

[unreal quarry]

I still plan to use Orion for Ridables. I just haven't had the free time and will power together at the same time lol

Maybe with the 1.14 update since I'll have to recode the entire thing again anyways

[austere ivy]

What are mixins?

[pulsar wigeon]

black magic that will probably make your remaining brain cells shrivel up and die

[austere ivy]

Someone mentioned runtime manipulation of bytecode.

[pulsar wigeon]

well, it's load-time really

[austere ivy]

Oh okay.

[pulsar wigeon]

past compile time, but not really while things are already running

[austere ivy]

How's that better over patching?

Wouldn't that lead to longer server startup times?

[golden gust]

Mods can't patch the server sources directly

[pulsar wigeon]

unless you're (re)starting your server constantly, startup times are generally not something you care about

[finite wave]

@austere ivy I don’t think you understand

[austere ivy]

That's why I'm asking Jan, I have no idea what mixins are haha

[coarse urchin]

Paper pre5 when eta thank you

[golden gust]

.eta

[limber knot]

Anyone requesting an ETA will be fed to goblins.

[austere ivy]

Get him, boys!

.korobi

.help

.electroniccat

.paperspigot

[limber knot]

DiscordBot: [Auto] We're now known as Paper.

[austere ivy]

:(

[pulsar wigeon]

stop abusing the bot

it has feelings you know

unlike leaf

[ornate spindle]

@golden gust you made me realise I had my DMs open on like 5 discord servers

[limber knot]

Gah

Why do people still use the telephone to wish happy birthday

I wanted to sleeeeep

[golden gust]

Nothing like waking somebody up to wish them a happy birthday 😄

[limber knot]

This is why I won't give you my phone number @golden gust

You'd ring at 3am

[golden gust]

Psh, I'd aim for 3:33, more of a round number

[limber knot]

.g 3:33 killer csi new york

(kashike) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSI:_NY_(season_4) -- CSI: NY (season 4) - Wikipedia: "The fourth season of CSI: NY originally aired on CBS between September ... Mac mentions the harassing calls he's been receiving every morning at 3:33..."

[golden gust]

lol

[stiff yarrow]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/tutorial-how-to-get-away-of-leaking-sites.368677/ this thread is comedy gold

[golden gust]

Yea, it's pretty much a monthly sport on the forums

[stiff yarrow]

🙄

imagine actually believing DRM worked

and imagine believing it would work in Java which decompiles in one of the most friendly ways

[pulsar wigeon]

that's why i write all my premium plugins in asm

i mean tbh you might as well use eta. jan was obviously on to something

[normal echo]

Just saw this in a reply, https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/spigot-anti-malware-anti-virus.64982/, interesting

[stiff yarrow]

what the fuck is this lol

[upper flicker]

Here I'll write a better one

public static void main (String[] args) {
    System.out.println("-- WARNING MALICIOUS PLUGIN DETECTED --")
}

[limber knot]

its a anti malware with really specific heuristics

its meh

there was another that that was way better

[stiff yarrow]

https://github.com/OpticFusion1/MCAntiMalware/blob/master/src/main/java/optic_fusion1/mcantimalware/deobfuscator/StringDeobfuscator.java#L5

what?

[fringe quartz]

Runs 24/7 for constant protection

phew

[void void]

does it actually say that lol

[stiff yarrow]

if you ever install a malicious plugin you might have a problem in your plugin vetting ability

[upper flicker]

the point of mine is that anything you consider questionable enough to run the scan on, you just dont run at all

[limber knot]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/simple-tool-to-view-suspicious-code-count.315562/

way better

as it flags potentially malicious stuff

[stiff yarrow]

broken images

[limber knot]

ye the author is banned :D

[stiff yarrow]

oh god the source code is hosted on some 4chan hacker theme website

[pulsar wigeon]

tf is that thing lol

[stiff yarrow]

probably just scans bytecode for red flags if I had to guess

[normal echo]

yeah

[pulsar wigeon]

nah i meant the floobits thing

[normal echo]

that's what I was on about 😛

I thought the code was gonna be pretty but then I saw it all in one file

my eyes

[stiff yarrow]

like 99% of the code in this scanner is from some ASM lib

really makes browsing the source code hard when the library is every class

[fringe quartz]

can I mute emoji's from somebody

asking for a friend

[stiff yarrow]

I'm just trying to find the logic and I keep finding library class files instead

[normal echo]

waits for premium antivirus plugin

[void void]

you may be under 'org' not 'cat'

[stiff yarrow]

https://floobits.com/HoverCatz/MaliciousCodeFinder/file/CLI/src/main/java/cat/hover/mcf/Finder.java:25

this code is actually spaghetti

[upper flicker]

wtf is that website

[limber knot]

yeah he never found time to clean it up

[stiff yarrow]

@upper flicker honestly seems like some edgy 4chan website

[void void]

"Floobits brings real-time collaborative editing to text editors, IDEs, and now Atom."

[stiff yarrow]

idk how he didn't get 200 lines in and think to himself "this is a fucking mess"

[wide chasm]

Lol

[limber knot]

looks good to me

[slim nymph]

i open discord and see this horrible shit

im gonna go back in a cave now

[stiff yarrow]

we hide the bad code 7 invokes deep

this has really got it all

edgy hacker 4chan code host

banned spigot user

spaghetti code

[cosmic raft]

tsk

they need to make better label names

fun things like

break dance;

[stiff yarrow]

[cosmic raft]

[stiff yarrow]

processStuff I should use this

[void void]

what

what's this even

@stiff yarrow explain this crap

[stiff yarrow]

someone used an ASM lib to scan for red flag bytecode very poorly

MiniDigger linked to it earlier

also the fact that its on an edgy 4chan hacker theme website makes it funnier to me

[cosmic raft]

you guys love pain

so have this gem from the Minecraft guild

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305580569238962186/568489217781661727/hard_to_see.PNG

[pulsar wigeon]

"anthro characters"

kill me now

[stiff yarrow]

@vernal moth what makes you think this person was banned? I don't see any signs t hey were

[pulsar wigeon]

"file shredder" that's where the illegal stuff goes

[coarse urchin]

thats how my desktop is

A mess

[normal echo]

Pretty sure they came on this discord a few weeks ago complaining they were banned

Cause they owned spigot.dev

[stiff yarrow]

lets share desktops

[cosmic raft]

I don't really have one; my laptop does but it's empty

[cosmic raft]

why is your cursor so big

[stiff yarrow]

I never look at my desktop

didn't even know what was on it

[cosmic raft]

edge open

[pulsar wigeon]

because this monitor has lower dpi than the laptop it's hooked up to

[stiff yarrow]

@cosmic raft edge is open because its looking at an epub file

[cosmic raft]

and why do you need edge for that

[stiff yarrow]

I don't

but edge opened by default

[cosmic raft]

🔥

[stiff yarrow]

and I didn't care to switch to my normal epub viewer

[austere ivy]

who wants to see my desktop

[cosmic raft]

we all do

#share-your-pc

[austere ivy]

this is my spare laptop by the way haha.

everything's stored in Stuff so whenever I reformat my mac (which I do somewhat often) I can just pack up and leave easily :P

[stiff yarrow]

you really can't just use a bash command to know your IP address like a normal person

[austere ivy]

I'm away from home

[stiff yarrow]

yes?

oh

I see

I take it back brian

sorry for the flames

[austere ivy]

here, let me show you my home one.

[pulsar wigeon]

>not having your home ip in your ~/.ssh known addresses

[stiff yarrow]

google changed their default response to what is my ip to be ipv6

🤢

[cosmic raft]

$ wc -l .ssh/known_hosts 
17 .ssh/known_hosts

[pulsar wigeon]

yes, that will definitely speed up adoption of ipv6

LUL

[cosmic raft]

@stiff yarrow most likely because you're connecting to them via v6? :p

[stiff yarrow]

I am

my internet uses ipv6

[placid thicket]

Google still returns ipv4 if your ISP uses ipv4

[stiff yarrow]

I also have an ipv4 address

[cosmic raft]

http://ipv6-test.com/ results? ;D

[austere ivy]

similarly clean

I made these backgrounds myself (and have a few more) if anyone wants them (which

I doubt you guys do, but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[austere ivy]

Nossr I'm going to HACK YOU.

[stiff yarrow]

[austere ivy]

Also, completely innocently, anyone want to join my server? :)

[stiff yarrow]

good luck I'm behind 18 boxxys

[austere ivy]

What? Nooooo, it doesn't tell me your IP.

[stiff yarrow]

you can get IPs from discords client

[austere ivy]

Really?

[stiff yarrow]

at least I was told this and believed it

[austere ivy]

I dunno about that xD

I mean I guess you could do it from Skype.

[placid thicket]

Not really a paper question but does anyone know how to run full world optimization with lighting recalc on a server world for .13>.14

Either my google foo isn't great or information relating is very sparse.

[austere ivy]

Yes.

Put it into your singleplayer worlds, in the new snapshots for 1.14 there's an option to recalculate lighting.

(clear world caches)

[placid thicket]

That's... Not really practical for a 13gb world... Like at all

[austere ivy]

That's what you can do on the vanilla side of things.

Alright, you can also get FAWE. Select a square that includes all generated chunks then //removelight and //fixlighting. People will probably hate me for saying get FAWE but a server I play on did that and it worked fine. Be warned this will cause some issues though, such as crops disappearing because of the lack of lighting.

So if you don't want a chance for the crops do disappear, just do /fixlighting only ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cosmic raft]

@stiff yarrow https://i.imgur.com/T8sJE38.png

[austere ivy]

Other than that I'm not really sure of any ways.

Yikes, TELUS.

[cosmic raft]

yikes

more like yay

[placid thicket]

Hopefully Mojang give more Info in the next few days...

[austere ivy]

That's not very american of you >:(

american salute

[cosmic raft]

what?\

[austere ivy]

national anthem plays quietly in the background

red white and blue wavy flag appears behind me, still in the american salute pose

national anthem gets louder and louder

[cosmic raft]

what the fuck are you going on about

[placid thicket]

I'd say yikes to Telus too, changed to shaw and went from a max of 75 to 600 for the same price

[austere ivy]

suddenly, everything fades to black

[austere ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/games-bethesda-gaming-skyrim-opening-gif-13752426

[cosmic raft]

I've got 300/300

https://www.speedtest.net/result/8197824041.png

[austere ivy]

Hey that's nice. How much do you pay?

[cloud dawn]

Has anything replaced/forked Factions yet? Because it hasn't been updated for quite a while.

[placid thicket]

They you don't live in the boonies like me

[cosmic raft]

$80/mo

[cloud dawn]

It doesn't even officially support 1.13

[austere ivy]

What!?

[pulsar wigeon]

factions3

[cosmic raft]

maybe $85, one of the two

[austere ivy]

We're paying $100/100down/10up

Sorry.

5 up.

[cosmic raft]

with who?

[cloud dawn]

Where do I find factions3

[upper flicker]

factions forks are like node modules in this community

Im sure there's one somewhere

[austere ivy]

Spectrum (Charter)

[cosmic raft]

US

[austere ivy]

They have no idea what an upload speed is.

[cosmic raft]

have fun with that

[placid thicket]

We are doing $95 for 600/20

[cosmic raft]

yeah, shaw's upload will always suck

[pulsar wigeon]

US isps make me sad

[austere ivy]

What on earth flanigo.

[placid thicket]

They have a 200 up option here but we really don't need it

[austere ivy]

You're like "95$ FOR 600 YEET"

20 mbps.

[cosmic raft]

I take it back

[austere ivy]

But who am I kidding I'm getting 5 ._.

[cosmic raft]

not $80

https://i.imgur.com/XLlGfEN.png

[austere ivy]

w h a t

[pulsar wigeon]

🇺🇸 💰 🇺🇸

[cosmic raft]

yes

[austere ivy]

Can we just get rid of Charter and Comcast from US?

[cloud dawn]

@pulsar wigeon Where's factions3 listed at?

[austere ivy]

Just yeet them away

[cosmic raft]

$75/mo for 300/300 fibre

[cloud dawn]

I cannot find it in the spigot forums

[pulsar wigeon]

.g

[austere ivy]

.g comcast

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.xfinity.com/ -- Digital Cable TV, Internet and Home Phone | XFINITY: "Save on XFINITY Digital Cable TV, High Speed Internet and Home Phone Services. Enjoy entertainment your way with great deals on XFINITY by Comcast."

[pulsar wigeon]

.g google

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) http://www.google.com/ -- Google: "Search the world's information, including webpages, images, videos and more. Google has many special features to help you find exactly what you're..."

[austere ivy]

.g comcast image

[placid thicket]

Oh also our dollar is ass so 95 cad is 71 American

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/tv-aspect-troubleshooting -- TV Aspect Ratio Troubleshooting: "Aspect ratio is the ratio of width to height for an image or screen. If the aspect ... From the TV's main menu, search for Picture Settings, Display..."

[austere ivy]

Come on, reddit, REPRESENT.

I suspect Google did it.

[tardy lynx]

20 down 2 up for £50/month

[placid thicket]

RIP

[austere ivy]

Previously, one of the top images if you search "Comcast" was the nazi flag.

I bet they took it down.

[pulsar wigeon]

i mean, you just did a google search, not a google image search

they are entirely different to begin with

[austere ivy]

I'm doing image search right now, can't find it.

[cosmic raft]

I think image search is disabeld on the bot

.gis comcast

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) No results found.

[cosmic raft]

yeah

[upper flicker]

.gis no results

[placid thicket]

Rogers (eastern Canada only) has 1000/150 for $115

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) No results found.

[upper flicker]

seems fine to me

[austere ivy]

https://memeguy.com/photo/251271/to-everybody-who-upvoted-the-rcirclejerk-post-in-order-to-make-comcast-show-up-as-a-nazi-org-comcast

It will be immortalized in .. uh.. memeguy, whatever that is.

[cosmic raft]

@placid thicket and that's still meh; still copper and docsis based

[austere ivy]

.gis Minecraft

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) No results found.

[austere ivy]

.g Minecraft

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://minecraft.net/ -- Minecraft: Official site: "Minecraft is a game about placing blocks and going on adventures. Buy it here, or explore the site for the latest news and the community's amazing..."

[austere ivy]

.g Minecraft Images

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) https://pixabay.com/images/search/minecraft/ -- 100+ Free Minecraft & Video Game Images - Pixabay: "Find images of Minecraft. ✓ Free for commercial use ✓ No attribution required ✓ High quality images."

[pulsar wigeon]

pls stop botspam here

[placid thicket]

They just completed a full network fiber upgrade at the beginning of 2919

[cosmic raft]

not to homes

[austere ivy]

Alright see you folks.

[cosmic raft]

it's still copper to actual customers

except business, maybe

Shaw uses RFoG in some cases

ex: https://www.stephenwagner.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/WP_000361.jpg

[placid thicket]

Not all of it, last mile is in upgrade expected for 2021, I worked for them till the end of 2018

[cosmic raft]

I don'

[slim nymph]

i have FTTP

[austere ivy]

ahem

[cosmic raft]

't know anyone who has fibre coming into their home with rogers, @placid thicket

[austere ivy]

okay bye folks!

[stiff yarrow]

@cosmic raft probably best to just have a bot edit and append everything brian writes with WARNING: Confuses reality with his imagination

[placid thicket]

Only specific areas of Toronto when I left the company

[normal echo]

Does the bot still have safe search off?

[cosmic raft]

probably

[austere ivy]

don't do that WARNING: Confuses reality with his imagination

[cosmic raft]

@placid thicket yeah, see, that's why I love telus

[austere ivy]

okay bye.

[cosmic raft]

everywhere here, even more remote areas, have FTTH

https://i.imgur.com/nQe49uq.jpg

hooray ONT

my setup ^

[placid thicket]

I can tell you that's not the case in the north

Our internet was only available over phone line

[stiff yarrow]

@cosmic raft there's a fiber company out here that bought out verizon, they offer 150/150 for like 55 USD month, their plans go up to 250 atm I think for not much more

in portland there's a fiber company offering 1000/1000

[cosmic raft]

by "here" I mean the cities all around me; not sure about way further

[stiff yarrow]

right now I'm on god awful copper wire internet

[cosmic raft]

rip

[austere ivy]

yikes

Fair punishment for abusing the pepe run emoji.

[stiff yarrow]

the upload speed being shit kills me inside

[austere ivy]

I have 5 upload speed, what's yours?

[placid thicket]

Max Telus speed in my city is 75, they lost a shit tonne of customers and are now panic upgrading because shaw upgraded and converted 80% of the city according to a Telus pole worker who was surveying poles outside my house

[stiff yarrow]

normally the download speed is 150 mbps/s but its shitting the bed atm

err

[stiff yarrow]

not MB/s

[austere ivy]

How is yours higher than me.

I'm going to protest Charter.

Here's my current speed in Colombia:

Send help.

that has my IP

[pulsar wigeon]

time to hack

[austere ivy]

noo D:

[placid thicket]

Speed over wifi from my cellphone at the farthest point in my house

[austere ivy]

Flanigo, how is this even possible.

[cosmic raft]

yeah I still don't trust fast.com to produce valid results

[austere ivy]

I'm going to guess charter?

[cosmic raft]

https://i.imgur.com/jyGPoHG.png https://i.imgur.com/oXH1jCm.png https://i.imgur.com/twnMWTL.png

[fallen oracle]

Weak

[cosmic raft]

unedited

[austere ivy]

OK I'll use Speedtest by Ookwa

[placid thicket]

@austere ivy shaw, Canada

[austere ivy]

Can I download more bits?

[pulsar wigeon]

nice 420 upload kashike

:^)

[austere ivy]

Is there an upgrade I can do.

[upper flicker]

youre downloading more bits right now

congrats

[austere ivy]

whoa ;o

[placid thicket]

Sure, just go to downloadmoreram.com

[austere ivy]

look at me mum I'm downloading bits!!

http://downloadmorewam.com

[placid thicket]

Forgot to mention, all packages above 75 also have free unlimited

[limber knot]

I think the limit to my internet connection is my wifi at this point

[austere ivy]

Amaranth is like it's currently 50 gbps down and 1 kbps up

[upper flicker]

more like 50 jbps

[stiff yarrow]

I'm staying in my moms living room so I can't complain about the shit internet too much

[austere ivy]

more like 50 pbps

[upper flicker]

not even using the animated tipping version

[limber knot]

I get 100mbps on speed tests, supposed to have a 200mbps connection but I'm on 802.11ac and there are over a dozen wifi networks visible to my computer

[stiff yarrow]

didn't even know there was a GIF version

[placid thicket]

Realizing I'm on 2.4ghz and not 5.0 that test speed is actually pretty impressive o.0

[stiff yarrow]

[limber knot]

I miss my internet in Florida, had 1Gbps for less money than this 200Mbps connection

[austere ivy]

tips furiously

[upper flicker]

didnt realize there was a pepe version

[austere ivy]

Okay bye folks!

[placid thicket]

@austere ivy you can never leave

[austere ivy]

:(

[stiff yarrow]

Amaranth: At my old house I was rated for 150/150 but the on site fiber unit was old and when I called to complain it disconnected a few times in a row so I gave up, luckily I still had 100/100

[austere ivy]

@placid thicket neither can you.

:D

[placid thicket]

Amaranth: you can change your wifi settings to use a different channel and rectify that

[stiff yarrow]

this is the fiber companies current plans in my area

[austere ivy]

what.

Alright bye folks!

@placid thicket I'm watching you.

[limber knot]

I had 1000/150 in Florida for like $65, I have 200/20 here for $130

[placid thicket]

@austere ivy I'm retired, I can do this all day

[austere ivy]

me too @placid thicket

[stiff yarrow]

tbh I don't really need the speed, I don't really do much with my internet atm

[placid thicket]

But I'm 22

[limber knot]

I almost never notice a difference between 1000 and 200

@placid thicket The router picked its channel automatically after scanning for nearby networks and the one it picked seems to be the best available

Although anything other than channels 1, 7, or 11 on 2.4Ghz overlaps with the other channels so they all kind of suck

[stiff yarrow]

@placid thicket did you make money with Minecraft servers or something so I can be jelly?

[placid thicket]

saskatchewan has federally regulated internet and its dirt cheap.

I'm related to dead rich people ¯_(ツ)_/¯

@stiff yarrow

[stiff yarrow]

if you ever want to hire me with dead relative money

[placid thicket]

Get 8k a month to do w/e with but most is in the mortgage ATM

[stiff yarrow]

8k a month for free

[placid thicket]

It's not free, I had to struggle through life till someone died for it

(tbh also my SOs money not mine but who's asking)

make 8k a month from home with this one easy trick!

[upper flicker]

have rich family, have rich family die, ???, profit

think thats the steps

make each one a separate image in a slideshow for more page views

[pulsar wigeon]

"have rich family die"
interesting use of the passive voice

:^)

[upper flicker]

it fits

thats the theme

[placid thicket]

But first, here's 14 slides about my daily struggle making 8k

[quasi valley]

and the struggle of making the slides

[upper flicker]

woah woah woah

[wide chasm]

I used to work hard for 8k
shows slides
But now I learned this one easy trick!

[upper flicker]

the struggle of making the slides is a separate clickbait article

[wide chasm]

How I became tired of making YT videos

[upper flicker]

we cant afford to go around sharing that much content amongst a single article

[placid thicket]

Which is linked at the end of the first article if you push next too many times

[quasi valley]

but then you have to not forget teasers and plotholes at the end of the other articles!

[wide chasm]

The entire video is one big annotation linking to it.

[upper flicker]

plus the 25 ads at the bottom that are only tangentially related

and the 4 in the actual slides between content

[placid thicket]

And make sure Adblock disables the whole page

[quasi valley]

and kills a puppy

[static badge]

what's up retards what I'd miss

[upper flicker]

ah yes

the true cancer of the internet

leaves

[wide chasm]

leaves

[static badge]

hashtag 0750 ur retarded

[placid thicket]

How I make 8k a month with a simple trick, I'll begin explaining again to you if you click these random links HTTPS:\www.example.com

[wide chasm]

This article is a subscriber exclusive!

[upper flicker]

https://login.google.com.safesite.randomhost.vps214421.eu.tk/asfijasfisajfjasfiasjfoasf?fsafsff

[austere ivy]

hey @placid thicket

[placid thicket]

Please give me your cc number but I promise I won't charge till the second month

[austere ivy]

you seemed to haven't talked for a while.

I wish I was unretired ;(

[placid thicket]

Then get a job

[stiff yarrow]

@placid thicket its not free because you faced the same challenges literally everyone else did until they died?

[placid thicket]

Yeah

But my life was harder

[stiff yarrow]

measurably harder

probably +1 harder

[placid thicket]

Because reasons

[upper flicker]

emotional torment of them dying

[placid thicket]

I'm autistic, that has to be at least a +2

[wide chasm]

I'm male +3

[static badge]

only thing that is +3 is the braincell requirement to not be retarded

[austere ivy]

I just thought of a good roast.

[upper flicker]

"no u"

I win

[static badge]

hashtag 0750 ur retarded

[austere ivy]

"it was bait

[placid thicket]

By my autism give me more brain cells, am I stuck In a +5 loop?

[austere ivy]

"

[upper flicker]

who left a rug in the middle of the floor

they slide around

and then people end up

fucking hell this is what I mean

[static badge]

you're too predictable

I saw that coming

[upper flicker]

...

[static badge]

yeah that's right

[upper flicker]

given how choreographed it was I can only hope so

[static badge]

... me u fuking hashtag

[upper flicker]

get ...'d

[static badge]

bet ur ass doesn't get on trending ever

[fallen oracle]

heck'd

[upper flicker]

what trending

trending leaf roasts?

always on it

[static badge]

turns out dumpsterfires make good leaf roasts

[stiff yarrow]

@placid thicket but if you're CIS white male you gotta add 18 privilege points

[static badge]

thanks for telling me

[upper flicker]

yeah thats literally how we burn you

[stiff yarrow]

I'm so dyslexic

[upper flicker]

we throw you out like the garbage you are

[static badge]

ur a dumpsterfire

[upper flicker]

then light you on fire to rid ourselves of you

[austere ivy]

@placid thicket you're not talking.

[upper flicker]

your kind is literally a dumpsterfire

and then nothing

[austere ivy]

Why are you not talking? :(

[static badge]

ur always a dumpsterfire

[placid thicket]

i have been talking lots, you aren't talking

[upper flicker]

[austere ivy]

[static badge]

ur mother invented the dumpsterfire

aka u

[upper flicker]

thats racist af

too far

crossed the line

reported to discord tos polis

[austere ivy]

wow, what's Leaf's punishment?

[static badge]

as if u could put 2 and 2 together to draw a line

[austere ivy]

he's gonna get banned from Minecraft

[upper flicker]

gonna call notch

[austere ivy]

I'm calling my father he works at Microsoft he's the CEO

[upper flicker]

get him banned

[placid thicket]

my dad works at microsoft ill get you BANNED!!1!

oof beat me to it

[austere ivy]

BEANED

LOL.

[placid thicket]

yay, my python scrip is 50% with 42 hours to go!

so how's everone's <insert applicable time of day>?

[pearl ibex]

@static badge Ur retarded. :>

[stiff yarrow]

my eyes hurt and these yellow glasses only help a small amount

[pearl ibex]

@stiff yarrow Captain Pepe! :D

[upper flicker]

@stiff yarrow drink your water

[quasi valley]

windows night mode 👀

[upper flicker]

no chicken tendies until you drink your water

[placid thicket]

forget water, drink vodka!

[pearl ibex]

You can't be so cruel, Z. D:

Is Captain Pepe a Russian or something? :>

[static badge]

generally people are as cruel as they are retarded

hashtag 0750 is no exception

[pearl ibex]

Well, you're retarded but you're not cruel, so...

[quasi valley]

you are quite a bit more cruel tho

[pearl ibex]

Yo, leaf.

[austere ivy]

Leaf.

[static badge]

wat

[austere ivy]

Can I get a signature?

[pearl ibex]

If you're not retarded, react to this. :>

You retarded leaf. :>

[static badge]

u can git fukt

[austere ivy]

Landis, how about this. If you're not an idiot, react to my message in my Discord server.

[pearl ibex]

Meh, you're retarded, Brian. :>

[austere ivy]

[placid thicket]

sure.... i can has invite?

[austere ivy]

:>

:>

:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>

[placid thicket]

not really plz

[austere ivy]

No D:<

[placid thicket]

im in way too many discords as it is >.>

[pearl ibex]

Send me the invite link. :> /s

Electroniccat has been playing Minecraft for days, holy moly. D:

[golden gust]

implying I close stuff

[placid thicket]

who closes things? i leave 500 chrome tabs open for the next time i might need them

[pearl ibex]

Now i'm gonna report Brian. :>

Yeah, who does? :P

[austere ivy]

:>

[placid thicket]

when my ram gets too full, i just put in another stick, no need to turn off the computer, just pull the old one out and put a new one in

[pearl ibex]

Wut?

[austere ivy]

Electronic can I put the invite to the server I created just for this (so no advertising or anything, but kinda.)

[pearl ibex]

Well... i can actually close my browser, since i have this wonderful "keep windows on close" thing.

For some reason, electroniccat knows when you're talking 'bout him.

[placid thicket]

the chat has died, now what am i gunna do for entertainment?

[austere ivy]

can I interrupt his Hypixel Bedwars match?

@electronicca

no, I can't bring myself to do it ;c

[pearl ibex]

Ping SpottedLeaf and call him a retard. :>

@cosmic raft Kash! Brian is impersonating me...

[austere ivy]

What?

is Landis ok

@pearl ibex are you okay?

[merry talon]

https://cloud.google.com/run/ this is so exciting

like your lambdas and cloud functions but it's just billed on CPU over the idle threshold or something like that

meaning I can keep a persistent DB connection

[austere ivy]

o_O

[merry talon]

there's gotta be some kind of threshold otherwise how would you not be billed for a running container constantly

so the question is, what is it?

oh apparently its when At least one request is being processed by the container instance

[wide hazel]

https://improbable.com/airchives/classical/articles/peanut_butter_rotation.html

[merry talon]

then what's stopping people from just hammering it with compute lol

[austere ivy]

@wide hazel I literally just saw that

fellow /r/todayilearned user too, eh?

[wide hazel]

Hah

[stiff yarrow]

@wide hazel this might be the most well vetted scientific paper ever

[wide hazel]

It's great

[austere ivy]

REEE

https://old.reddit.com/r/FL_Studio/comments/bdtr3o/new_synth_flex_beta_is_now_available_in_fl_studio/

[limber knot]

(DiscordBot) New synth FLEX beta is now available in fl studio 20.1.2 : FL_Studio - 40 comments, 120 points - PLEB6785, 2d ago

[austere ivy]

Bye folks I'm going to go play with this.

can I type image-line.com any faster?? probably.

[cosmic raft]

announced that the program would not be returning for a third season, ending the series with an unresolved cliffhanger.

fuck networks who do this

[stiff yarrow]

ye I feel your pain

[cosmic raft]

gives @stiff yarrow a Firefly

[merry talon]

// should never happen
return new Error("Something went horribly wrong")

this is the best

[tropic flame]

@cosmic raft that's how you open a whole new world of porn fanfictions

ending the series with an unresolved cliffhanger

[void void]

what the fuck did you just bring upon this cursed land

[tropic flame]

LMAO

I mean this land is already cursed

[void void]

something something... rule (numbers) ?

[atomic marten]

Is wrapping error message in a constructor and not writing your own error types the norm?

[tropic flame]

getting more cursed won't do anything

[void void]

@atomic marten depends on a situation

[tropic flame]

noodles are just thin spaghetti

runs

[atomic marten]

It’s spaghetti noodles

Btw

Anti viruses are over rated

Common sense is the best package you can get

[void void]

@tropic flame rule 34

[tropic flame]

honestly at this point common sense is the one overrated

[atomic marten]

Change my mind

[tropic flame]

@void void if something exists there's porn of it...?

[void void]

wink-wink

[tropic flame]

oh...

[atomic marten]

That’s just a tentacle don’t be fooled

[stiff yarrow]

nossrman porn when

[tropic flame]

I've heard the UK was gonna enforce a porn ban for minors this summer

[atomic marten]

I didn’t know it was illegal in the UK

*legal

[tropic flame]

for minors

oh

lol

[atomic marten]

Can’t trust voice typing for nothing

[tropic flame]

but ye it's something like, websites having to implement a way to check your information with a government database and if they don't comply they block the website

that's what a friend told me

[normal echo]

brb got to go to the post office to get my online ID 😉

[tropic flame]

LMAO

but yeah it's sad

[atomic marten]

Pls minors will just torrent it

[tropic flame]

lmao

[atomic marten]

Or vpn to a country that doesn’t check

[tropic flame]

it's like saying masturbation is not normal in a teenager's life

there are VPNs

and teens know about them LOL

[normal echo]

psh i'm sure they'll just trade USB drives on the playground

[tropic flame]

yeah, like in the old days

[atomic marten]

Sharing those tor live usbs

[tropic flame]

hold on, I'm sure this isn't the Frozen movie I saw the trailer of sometime ago

🤷

[atomic marten]

my playground only had tails persistent usb trading and guy fawks masks

And these fancy A stickers

[austere ivy]

Is disabling and enabling a plugin during runtime a good idea at all?

Nevermind that sounds like such a stupid idea it's incomprehensible.

[pulsar wigeon]

/reload was a mistake

[unreal quarry]

Plugman is just as bad

[finite wave]

Just /stop

[unreal quarry]

My favorite plugman related code, ever https://github.com/BillyGalbreath/Ridables/blob/v3.0/src/main/java/net/pl3x/bukkit/ridables/Ridables.java#L116

^_^

[finite wave]

Hehe

[woven otter]

haha that's nice

[pulsar wigeon]

then you need to compile on his code :<

why would you want to add a dependency on that

[finite wave]

Lol

[unreal quarry]

Is that a serious question?

[pulsar wigeon]

acknowledging things gives them credibility :^)

[unreal quarry]

Can't tell if serious or trolling. Going to assume trolling. ^_^

[stiff yarrow]

what the hell is plugman

[pulsar wigeon]

🚮 💩

[unreal quarry]

It's what people use to feel better about using /reload without using /reload because /reload is bad. They just aren't aware it's the same damn thing with the same damn problems lol

[acoustic pilot]

It's actually not. Some things are fairly safe to reload.

Whenever possible I do try to design my stuff to be reload-friendly. /reload is bad, though.

PlugMan also isn't exactly complex, the concept of plugin reloading is easy enough to implement, we don't even use PlugMan so any PlugMan-specific check wouldn't affect our servers as we use our own thing 😛

[cedar spade]

In theory, if your plugin is designed properly, it should reload fine

[acoustic pilot]

It's actually not theory.

It's proven fact.

[cedar spade]

In practice, things might still go wrong

[acoustic pilot]

Yeah a lot of things tend to simply not be reload-compatible.

[pulsar wigeon]

yea like people trying to upgrade things live

[acoustic pilot]

Plenty of small things can go wrong.

[pulsar wigeon]

switch a new jar in and turns out the classloader still has references leftover

[acoustic pilot]

I use plugin reloading to avoid restarting the server after making plugin updates, I also do live hotswapping some times for hot fixes 😉

Yeah you'll end up with small leaks like that, but it's enough to hold you over until the next reboot.

[pulsar wigeon]

jvm hotswapping and reloading is different

hotswapping changes what's already there

reload tries to make a new one altogether

[acoustic pilot]

Depends on your method of hot swapping

Standard JVM hot swapping, that's true.

But that's not the only way to hot swap 😃

[pulsar wigeon]

ok well i'm talking about a specific thing obviously

[acoustic pilot]

Yes well, as specific as it is, it's not the only way to hot swap.

[pulsar wigeon]

you can make up alternate definitions for things but that doesn't make them consistent or valid

[acoustic pilot]

Oh it does.

[pulsar wigeon]

k

[acoustic pilot]

Just different methods of hot swapping.

DCEVM hot swapping is still called hot swapping.

It is what it is, whether you like it or not.

There's also JRebel's hot swapping too.

[austere ivy]

What could go wrong with /reload anyway? I'm not super educated on exactly what can go wrong. I see some people putting this = null; in their onDisable() as that apparently "helps with /reload" but isn't that redundant?

[acoustic pilot]

The main thing that goes wrong is that many if not most plugins don't clean up after themselves, but /reload itself has issues with the actual server implementation, too, IIRC.

[hard viper]

Well, if anything outside of your plugin has a reference to anything from your plugin

[void void]

tldr keep away from /reload

it sucks

[hard viper]

Classloader leaks.

[acoustic pilot]

There might be good reasons for why they don't clean up after themselves, generally not, but some times yes.

[hard viper]

And boom, you now have a leak and all sorts of problems due to classes not actually realoding.

[acoustic pilot]

The class loader leaking is the least worrisome aspect, in my experience.

[hard viper]

To make it more fun, some of them will reload, and some of them will not.

[acoustic pilot]

But I only use individual plugin reloading to hold me over until the next daily reboot.

As a tool to avoid rebooting immediately to apply changes or fixes.

[hard viper]

So you will have all sorts of linkage errors and static variables not being updated at some places.

Also it's almost impossible to support reaload for anything that injects into nms.

There usually isn't really a clean way to uninject those things.

Because they get cached in server itself.

Also it's hard to reload plugins that have a circular sort of depend between them.

So generally it is safe to reload a plugin only if you made sure that plugin can do reload and no active plugins depend on it.

[acoustic pilot]

Yep, which is why /reload is very bad, as it's indiscriminate and reloads all plugins, and even server state.

[pulsar wigeon]

i'm not sure how common it is, but some plugins have /<plugin> reload commands which just reload things like configs etc that it knows it can do safely

[hard viper]

I just do Bukkit.shutdown() onDisable in all my plugins that really has no way to support reload.

[native thunder]

That sounds like a terible idea. What if you need to disable a plugin until next restart

[acoustic pilot]

We're talking about plugins like ProtocolSupport, I think?

In which case, shutdown() is a good call.

[hard viper]

Yes

[acoustic pilot]

There is no way to support disabling that shit lol

[cosmic raft]

If you need to disable a plugin at runtime then you need to rethink how you run things

[acoustic pilot]

Once it's enabled, it's in there for good until reboot.

[hard viper]

In theory you can reload, however that will actually require closing all connections anyway.

[native thunder]

Ah OK that makes way more sense

[hard viper]

Yeah, once it's enabled it becomes a part of the server.

[acoustic pilot]

It all depends on the plugin, and yeah PS definitely fits the bill.

[hard viper]

Also plugins that load/unload worlds most likely won't be able to reload too.

[cosmic raft]

This is why we did reloading way different with Sponge

[austere ivy]

How do you reload?

With Sponge?

Y'KNOW.

[pulsar wigeon]

plugins opt in

[austere ivy]

Why don't we just get rid of /restart?

[pulsar wigeon]

what's wrong with restart?

[hard viper]

Nothing saves from leftover references tho. I guess you can track and carve out those objects using jvm native debug interfaces. However if plugin doesn't properly support reload nothing will help.

[pulsar wigeon]

restart has nothing to do with reload

[native thunder]

Um

[pulsar wigeon]

pretty sure restart isn't even standard

[austere ivy]

did I say /restart

[acoustic pilot]

On the topic of reloading and hot swapping, I hate relocating shaded classes because it makes class reloading impossible 😦

[austere ivy]

lol I meant /reload

[cosmic raft]

yes

[austere ivy]

xD

[native thunder]

That's it's a bukkit command no?

For restart.sh

Or whatever

[cosmic raft]

@acoustic pilot I don't relocate things in private stuff

[pulsar wigeon]

reload is a bukkit command

[austere ivy]

Yeah but Paper is literally a fork of Bukkit

[pulsar wigeon]

restart isn't/wasn't?

[cosmic raft]

I also don't use public plugins, which is great

[acoustic pilot]

Same @cosmic raft

[austere ivy]

You can change it ,_,

[native thunder]

Might be a spigot addition

[acoustic pilot]

Being able to reload classes in plugins containing shaded classes is great.

[cosmic raft]

Spigot adds it

[pulsar wigeon]

if restart is standard now, it was added by a fork

yea ok

[hard viper]

Don't really see what is the problem with relocated classes.

[austere ivy]

Welcome to the graph of stuff:

[acoustic pilot]

@hard viper Mostly no problem other than not being able to do live class reloading.

[native thunder]

Hotswap is a nightmare

[acoustic pilot]

If you're trying to reload a class which uses a relocated class, you're screwed.

[pulsar wigeon]

huh? why?

[hard viper]

Huh, why? I could do live reload from newly built jar just fine.

[pulsar wigeon]

are you relocating at runtime?

[acoustic pilot]

Because the code you're editing references the non-relocated name.

[pulsar wigeon]

or compiletime shade/shadow?

uhhh

[hard viper]

That's the problem of your IDE integration then.

[pulsar wigeon]

^

hotswap the post-relocation classes

[hard viper]

Change stuff -> build jar -> swap classes.

Debug via remote

[acoustic pilot]

Let's say I have a plugin that shades in Guava and relocates it to shaded.guava or something, where as in the IDE I'm touching the unrelocated code, ofc it wouldn't work there.

[pulsar wigeon]

works in my setup /shrug

[austere ivy]

. | PAPER | SPIGOT | BUKKIT |
. RELOAD | NO | YES | YES |
. RESTART | YES | YES | NO |
. STOP | YES | YES | YES |

As you can see from this very professional graph, Spigot is the best!

(reload may or may not be removed from Paper in the future)

[pulsar wigeon]

looks like spigot is the worst to me

[pseudo island]

Reload is bad

simple

[austere ivy]

ok so Paper is the best?

[acoustic pilot]

I change stuff and do an individual class reload, I don't build a jar.

[pseudo island]

yes

[austere ivy]

HA psike, Paper still has reload.

What a shame ;/

[pseudo island]

I prefer plugin management plugins

that's the best solution for all servers

excluding actual restarts

[pulsar wigeon]

pls leave

[austere ivy]

I vote we lynch k9lego.

[pulsar wigeon]

you first

[pseudo island]

lol

[austere ivy]

PlugMan = /reload

[acoustic pilot]

Paper can't just remove something like /reload without getting an earful from users.

[austere ivy]

It does the same thing basically.

Byte.

[pseudo island]

no Plugman > /reload

anyway bye

[austere ivy]

k9lego, how so.

And Byte, add an option in the config to just get away with /reload from your server.

[acoustic pilot]

PlugMan gives you control over which plugin you can reload.

[pseudo island]

you don't nuke important plugins that cannot handle /reload

[austere ivy]

Have it disabled usually. Opt-in ;)

[pseudo island]

yes

[acoustic pilot]

Where /reload does not give you that control.

[austere ivy]

Oh it does?

Oh okay.

[acoustic pilot]

Which is why /reload causes more damage.

[pulsar wigeon]

adding an option doesn't make sense

anyone smart enough to disable the command won't use it

[austere ivy]

Well I don't like /reload and I don't want it in my server.

[pulsar wigeon]

anyone stupid enough to use the command will keep it on

[austere ivy]

Just the thought of /reload being in my server gives me shudders.

[acoustic pilot]

Fork it and remove it then lol

[pulsar wigeon]

well you're retarded for starters, you literally just learned about this

[acoustic pilot]

Though I think negating the permission should be enough

[pulsar wigeon]

but you can just alias it away or use permissions to disallow it

[acoustic pilot]

If you want to avoid "accidentally" reloading, that is.

[hard viper]

I actually did remove a reload command in my plugins

You can always remove it from commandmap

[austere ivy]

/reload does actually come with a warning now.

[pulsar wigeon]

you don't even need to

[hard viper]

Until certain special someone attached some other logic to that command.

[austere ivy]

So that's helpful.

[pulsar wigeon]

pretty sure aliases.yml can get rid of it

[cosmic raft]

"professional"

https://i.imgur.com/aCCIFbO.png

[pulsar wigeon]

^compact mode lul

[austere ivy]

It's got spacers and all.

[acoustic pilot]

I can understand the desire to remove it, to prevent any accidental reload when what you really wanted to do was reload a plugin config or something and accidentally typed /reload instead

[pulsar wigeon]

no code blocks

[austere ivy]

Compact mode pleb.

[acoustic pilot]

With the warning though that shouldn't be necessary

[pulsar wigeon]

unaligned everything

[cosmic raft]

compact mode > cozy mode

[pulsar wigeon]

QFT https://i.imgur.com/LGCcsG6.png

[austere ivy]

You either pick IRC or Discord.

If you want to be on IRC, go to IRC, not "CoMpaCt MoDe"

I've actually never.. really tried it. hmm

[pulsar wigeon]

or fuck you i'll do whatever i want

[cosmic raft]

^

[cosmic raft]

any second now..

[austere ivy]

:(

Alright, I'm trying it right now.

I have to say it's not too bad, I just don't really like the lack of avatars and repetition of usernames. Other than that it's not too bad.

Maybe if just like the timestamp, the username only displayed once per message grouping.

[acoustic pilot]

Avatars are noise any way

[austere ivy]

Not bad, though.

[acoustic pilot]

Why do you like noise

[austere ivy]

UI is noise

Let's do away with all UI

[cosmic raft]

fine with me

[pulsar wigeon]

let's do away with tehbrian

[cosmic raft]

fine with me

[austere ivy]

D:

[cosmic raft]

:D

[austere ivy]

Turn that smile upside down!

:)

(:

[acoustic pilot]

Is there a way to disable the avatars in the member list?

[pulsar wigeon]

hmmm better https://i.imgur.com/Ie5Vf55.png

[acoustic pilot]

You just used web inspector didn't you lol

[pulsar wigeon]

yea

[austere ivy]

..

[pulsar wigeon]

need something like BetterDiscord to make permanent changes

[austere ivy]

alternatively

Just take a cropped screenshot

:>

[cosmic raft]

let's see if people will notice

[austere ivy]

Notice what?

[cosmic raft]

exactly

[pulsar wigeon]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[austere ivy]

what

[pulsar wigeon]

lol

[cosmic raft]

nothing

[acoustic pilot]

I think I noticed