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acoustic pilot
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That one patch almost single-handedly has generated overwhelming demand for 1.8.8

slim nymph
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or cares lol

somber mirage
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Ok now I want to do it

acoustic pilot
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The other issue is combat

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That's something that can't be properly patched, though.

slim nymph
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mojang looks to be eventually dealing with combat

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ina future update

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doubt it :>

slim nymph
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they said they are....

upper flicker
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if it isnt 1:1 spam click garbage like it was they'll still be throwing their tantrum

static badge
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they did?

slim nymph
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yes

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in like 1.16 or so

upper flicker
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not worth the thought

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huh well that'll be interesting to see

upper flicker
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if they do they do, if they dont they dont

slim nymph
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i think they proclaimed it wont be 1.15 already

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or was it 1.14 they said it wouldnt be

somber mirage
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What are the super cool patches in the past 2 years or so? What have I missed?

slim nymph
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lots

upper flicker
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all of them

slim nymph
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were at like 450 patches now

tropic flame
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async anti-xray

somber mirage
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I'm sure they're all great, but what's REALLY great?

slim nymph
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I rewrote async chunk loading and addded async gen

upper flicker
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all of them

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get reading

acoustic pilot
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@somber mirage There's a nasty chunk dupe you probably want to fix in your private fork.

somber mirage
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Oh that's awesome

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I don't want to make a server or anything I'll just fix cannoning as a public service

slim nymph
somber mirage
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I'm sure Aikar will appreciate all of the factions servers converting to the new ways and making demands

acoustic pilot
slim nymph
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LUL

tropic flame
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obfuscate like dem private forks /s

somber mirage
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Private forks?

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Really?

cosmic raft
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yes really

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even @acoustic pilot has had some :p

acoustic pilot
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BeerSpigot is the most popular one right now, isn't it?

limber knotBOT
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tbh the cooles patch is the hopper improvements ;D

acoustic pilot
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For 1.8

tropic flame
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well I should have said "paid forks" instead but yeah, same thing

slim nymph
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people pretty much backport a lot of my patches then sell it and dont send me any of it!

acoustic pilot
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When I first joined Paper, I had a private fork called IronSpigot (Z and Kash probably remember this), and then I made another one called Nozzle (this was when Ice was active and we privately shared our stuff)

limber knotBOT
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that's what you get for not making it GPL!

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runs

somber mirage
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Nozzle was great

true canyon
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That's what you get for not making it AGPL!

cosmic raft
somber mirage
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BeerSpigot

cosmic raft
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BeerSpigot's license check

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lol

somber mirage
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What are the features that people pay for

limber knotBOT
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questionable if AGPL it applies to a server software xD

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also I should stop doing three things at once, hurts my sentences

acoustic pilot
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yeah that's integer division for you

somber mirage
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How is this any different from what we had 3 years ago?

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use 6.0/5.0

acoustic pilot
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@cosmic raft lol a lot of that gibberish comes out as fucked up Korean, which is funny to me since I can read Korean lol

upper flicker
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use not integers or cast

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use fp

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fp gud

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fp ur fren

static badge
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(double)6/5 will work

cosmic raft
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the tl;dr of the license thing is it hits http://www.blurpvp.com/webpanel/verify.php?v1=redacted&v2=redacted&pl=BeerSpigot&id=1 for a response

static badge
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although that's cancerous to read

cosmic raft
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or 6d / 5d

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no ugly .0

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that's cancer

void void
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6D / 5D >:(

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stop with this cancer

acoustic pilot
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@somber mirage Not much new really, just squeezing out as many more players as possible. Didn't you have async entity tracking? That'd probably be profitable.

upper flicker
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you always get mad about people kicking you leaf

true canyon
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@cosmic raft Fun stuff!

upper flicker
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cant want to stop cancer and not want to get kicked

cosmic raft
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hi @true canyon :D

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2 ur cancer

slim nymph
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async entity tracking is planned for us soon as I have time in 12 years

upper flicker
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thats cyberbullying

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what even is entity tracking anyways

somber mirage
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I never made it async, I just rewrote it to make it less stupid

acoustic pilot
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Ah

slim nymph
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tracking what entities a playerr should see, updating state to client

stiff yarrow
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petition to give leaf a role that lets everyone kick him PogU

slim nymph
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what entities are in range

upper flicker
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thats not how discord perms work

cosmic raft
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@acoustic pilot entity tracking is completely overhauled in 1.14

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it'll be fun

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oh

upper flicker
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sadface dot jpeg

somber mirage
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Overhauled for the better?

stiff yarrow
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but its how they should work

acoustic pilot
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Ah, nice.

slim nymph
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did they move it to simply be chunk based tracking?

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that could simplify things

acoustic pilot
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Overhauled entity tracking, async lighting... 1.14 is sounding nice.

cosmic raft
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it's not just moved

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values aren't hardcoded in a giant if like they were before, etc

acoustic pilot
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Sounds like it might end up performing better than 1.12, probably even 1.9

slim nymph
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i meant is it still block distance based

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moving to chunk based could cut out a lot of tracking details

cosmic raft
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entities are responsible for their own add packets, etc

austere ivy
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hey Zbk

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how's the stuff going?

somber mirage
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If I remember, the biggest issue was that it was an n^2 operation

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I think that's what I fixed

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It's been so long

austere ivy
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okay, I just, do you have any general gist on what should I do haha

slim nymph
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every entity has to iterate every player in the world, yes

austere ivy
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should I just size() and print out uhhh

acoustic pilot
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Yeah adding more entities just fucks that right up.

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The impact of adding more entities was huge

slim nymph
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could actually prob improve that to search nearby chunks only

cosmic raft
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BlockPos has friends now, too

fallen oracle
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Now Glare just needs friends.

limber knotBOT
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I love that cinnamon pins the CPU at 100% indefinitely when I plug in a second monitor

upper flicker
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its cinnamon

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what did you really expect

limber knotBOT
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more

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more cpu usage?

upper flicker
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'BREAKING gnome removes feature in latest update'

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'BREAKING water still wet'

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is water wet

vestal jasper
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yes

limber knotBOT
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nO

static badge
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hm thonk

vestal jasper
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strong tetrahedral hydrogen bonding
water is wet

static badge
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but what is the definition of wet

vestal jasper
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There's 20 definitions of wet.
Half of which suggest that water is wet.
The other half suggest water is not wet.

limber knotBOT
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what's everyone on, KDE?

upper flicker
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leaf just wants to argue

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so on average it'

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s a tie

limber knotBOT
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I'm just starting with the desktop world

vestal jasper
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Yes

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I'm on KDE

fallen oracle
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Just ban him

static badge
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im on windows 10

acoustic pilot
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Still better than KDE

upper flicker
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KDE is miles ahead of cinnamon

vestal jasper
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I mean I'm technically on windows 10 rn but that's because I can't be fucked setting up the 100th wine container to play games

acoustic pilot
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I do like Qt, though.

vestal jasper
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But I dual boot win10/arch kde

limber knotBOT
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cinnamon looks better than kde plasma

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which one has better multi-monitor support? xD

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but function > form I guess

vestal jasper
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cinnamon looks like a discounted version of KDE

upper flicker
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tmux is the only thing you need

vestal jasper
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Who needs a DE anyway

austere ivy
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water is dry

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also @void void help me ;D

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if you have like any idea because I feel like trying to check something (which is what I'm trying to do)

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ok thanks lol xD

finite wave
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? What are you needing help with now

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Oh, using ACF you can enable @slim nymph’s experimental function.

slim nymph
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i think zbk is overiding the root bukkit /help

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ACF doesn't hook that

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welll, we hook part of it now for command specific help

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so /help acfcommand does override bukkits now

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but /help listing all commands, ACF doesnt wanna deal with your non ACF commands

finite wave
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There should be no non acf commands

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❤️

austere ivy
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Z B. K

finite wave
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Lol

austere ivy
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I just need custom help because of uh

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ACF doesn't support /help (specificACFplugin)

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so I need to add a custom one to show all of my commands :>

finite wave
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I don’t like that the brace is green @austere ivy

slim nymph
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figure out how to make it brian 😛

austere ivy
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I literally have no idea

slim nymph
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or add a command with your plugin name lol

austere ivy
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how do you hook into Bukkit anyway

finite wave
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@void void *

austere ivy
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yeah why'd you tag me for that Jan xD

finite wave
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Preprocesscommand or hook directly into commandmap

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Many ways

austere ivy
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I prefer gray braces but it's custom for each server's theme

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jan

finite wave
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He had one white one green

austere ivy
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if you know how to do it, please pr ACF and add that xD

finite wave
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Go make an issue

austere ivy
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I did

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wait

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oh that was about a separate help thing (which is now a thing thanks to Aikar :D)

finite wave
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Make an issue and someone will get to it

slim nymph
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contribute code to solve it 😉

finite wave
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^

slim nymph
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so @somber mirage what drug you back here

finite wave
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I’ll see, not now though i need sleep

austere ivy
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Drug feels weird as a past tense of drag.

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Isn't it dragged?

finite wave
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Nah

slim nymph
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dragged >_>

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DRUGS MKAY

finite wave
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Drug is clearly better

austere ivy
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cough ok

finite wave
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Drugs are great

austere ivy
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according to the definition

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a medicine or other substance which has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body:

tropic flame
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past tense of see should be seed

austere ivy
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I drug myself daily

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"other substance"

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I eat chocolate. That has serotonin :D

tropic flame
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oxygen's the worst drug

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it kills you slowly

limber knotBOT
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everything's a drug!

acoustic pilot
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18 days into my T-break. Tempted >_>

austere ivy
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Did you know 100% of people who breathe oxygen die?

limber knotBOT
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say NO to drugs! stop living!

austere ivy
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T-break?

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o-o

acoustic pilot
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Tolerance break.

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From weed.

austere ivy
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Oh.

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Stay strong, brother.

acoustic pilot
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Withdrawal isn't strong, and most of it is gone in the first week.

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It's not at all hard 😛

tropic flame
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kinda hard to leave weed when you listen to hip-hop

austere ivy
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ok so why you tempted then

tropic flame
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jk

austere ivy
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Looks great!

finite wave
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Not

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Red looks dangerous

austere ivy
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Jan, colors aren't important.

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Right now just the syntax.

finite wave
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And the ===[ seems non centered

tropic flame
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that reminds me, someone could do an Essentials-like /help for Sponge because I can't stand that vanilla output

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goddamnit

austere ivy
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oh

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here

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&8-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- &7-=[ &fThe &bFloating &aCity &7]=- &8-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-

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I use that for my server, it's centered.

pulsar wigeon
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does no one else use flags in their commands

austere ivy
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You could.

limber knotBOT
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the chat width is always the same (unless you use mods)

acoustic pilot
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I would if there was a good command framework which did like getopt style flags 😛

austere ivy
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But ZBK, looking at big deal servers like Hypixel, they seem to cater to the default.

limber knotBOT
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the thing that will be different is the resource pack font width

austere ivy
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Phoenix.

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Incorrect.

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Settings -> Chat -> Chat Width

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People have it changed, I see a lot of youtubers with that too.

finite wave
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@void void Add a space between [ 1/1 ]

pulsar wigeon
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i mean, worldedit's had it for years

austere ivy
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320px is the default.

limber knotBOT
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get out of here with your new settings

pulsar wigeon
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actually, it's had a few

finite wave
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If there isn’t one

austere ivy
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That isn't new, Phoenix.

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That's like old Minecraft.

limber knotBOT
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it is, lol

tropic flame
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who tf changes the chat settings anyway?

pulsar wigeon
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doesn't support new fancy stuff like Texts and suggestions tho tbf

limber knotBOT
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only been in Minecraft since, what, 1.0?

austere ivy
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first, ZBK.

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and change the color of the /

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I suggest making the / gray

finite wave
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No

austere ivy
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other ones white.

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or blue?

finite wave
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What why

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Well maybe

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Hmm, try it

austere ivy
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that's what I use on my server

finite wave
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Darkgray/lightblue

finite wave
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Use gradle

austere ivy
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WHY IS MY LAPTOP NOT CHARGING >_>

finite wave
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Supah fast

austere ivy
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I need to shade stuff in Jan

pulsar wigeon
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use IDE compiler

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only needs to compile changed files

austere ivy
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I like maven

pulsar wigeon
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take 0.5 seconds to start

austere ivy
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wiz

finite wave
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Gradle can do thst? @austere ivy

austere ivy
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that's.. what I amd oing

finite wave
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@pulsar wigeon Gradle does the same

austere ivy
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just had to download a bunch of stuff

pulsar wigeon
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and gradle is also slow

acoustic pilot
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Unpopular opinion: Maven masterrace 😛

pulsar wigeon
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because it has to configure a million tasks

finite wave
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Don’t use ut then @void void

pulsar wigeon
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even if it skips 90% of them and only compiles classes

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especially if you have a FG based project in your sources

finite wave
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@pulsar wigeon Still faster than maven

pulsar wigeon
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please stop pinging me

finite wave
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@pulsar wigeon okay

pulsar wigeon
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ok now that he's blocked

finite wave
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Whaaat

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It was faster writing his name that way, i’m on phone

acoustic pilot
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What's the big deal with respecting someone's trivial request?

finite wave
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Whatever

pulsar wigeon
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^^

true canyon
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@acoustic pilot maven ftw! Doesn't take three years to import into IDEA

pulsar wigeon
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i even said it nicely

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and he just decided to be an asshole about it

austere ivy
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hey

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phoenix616

true canyon
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Some people have bad habits that can have negative results, zbk 😛

acoustic pilot
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@true canyon Yeah, and in my experience I haven't noticed Gradle being particularly faster.

austere ivy
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phoenix616

acoustic pilot
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They seemed about similar.

austere ivy
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the chat width setting was added in 12w21a

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that was in 2012

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may 24 2012

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the chat width setting is not new

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unless you count 7 years ago new.

true canyon
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Maybe it makes a difference if running on a potato

pulsar wigeon
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imo i don't really care about full project build time. point is that when debugging, the IDE only compiles relevant changes so each run (when you're not just hotswapping anyway) is very fast

austere ivy
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People do change it, a lot, too. Especially youtubers so the chat doesn't clutter the recording. But everyone seems to be doing 320px and I don't think anyone should cater for otherwise.

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also

true canyon
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Since I operate on a beowulf cluster of potatoes I don't see differences.

austere ivy
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that is super god look

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good lookin

acoustic pilot
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lol

slim nymph
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@pulsar wigeon im trying to get flags/switches into ACF 😛 one person tried to PR it but didnt really hit the mark

austere ivy
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@void void put everything in your config! Every single changeable message (string) goes straight in the config.

slim nymph
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im calling them switches (I already use Flags)

somber mirage
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@slim nymph This game was a big part of my work life for a long time and I miss it! I don't miss running a server though

shell fern
pulsar wigeon
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i mean if you actually make a nice system WE/WG might use it

true canyon
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I'll take slashdot memes for 300, Alex

austere ivy
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I currently have 206 keys in my config.yml

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:P

pulsar wigeon
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but atm ACF just doesn't meet our feature needs

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as outdated as our system is

slim nymph
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@pulsar wigeon PR's welcome 😛

austere ivy
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oh yeah I can feel that, though, ZBK.

pulsar wigeon
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octy is making one from scratch atm

tropic flame
acoustic pilot
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@somber mirage It's a shame though because Woodycraft and Optic were making bank 😛

tropic flame
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this thread is something

pulsar wigeon
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does code generation, looks cool. no clue how usable it is

finite wave
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Careful he does not like tags

slim nymph
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ACF was created as an alternative to Intake's design funny enough

austere ivy
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It'd be great if we had something like Jenkins that automatically updated and restarted your server every time you built.

pulsar wigeon
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yea i noticed your inspirations :P

slim nymph
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I just found intake too damn complicated in design

acoustic pilot
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@somber mirage Imagine the bulk of that money going to you directly 😃

pulsar wigeon
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how so?

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as in the framework, or using it

slim nymph
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just didnt feel intuitive

somber mirage
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@acoustic pilot Yes, but so do other things!

pulsar wigeon
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i agree the framework is bulky, but making commands in it is so easy

austere ivy
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Being able to just build, and not worry about updating your server, would be such a relief from my current workflow which is.. Press package, while that does it's thing, goes to my pterodactyl thingy and delete the old folder and jar, and then wait for package to be done, and then upload it and then restart it.

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What a pain.

acoustic pilot
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Yes true, I hope life has been great to you in that regard 😃

pulsar wigeon
austere ivy
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Ah ZBK.

pulsar wigeon
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2 line command lol

austere ivy
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I asked your exact question, but apparently Bukkit already caches them.

pulsar wigeon
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the rest is all metadata filled in by the framework

slim nymph
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yeah using it isnt much diff

austere ivy
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I think Aikar said that but anyway.

slim nymph
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I just prefer multiple annotations over all in 1 😛

somber mirage
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@acoustic pilot I've been very fortunate, and this game played a big role in opening doors

cosmic raft
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I like my pagination the best :P

somber mirage
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I'll give back by giving a best effort on a cannon patch lol

pulsar wigeon
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oh, the @Command annotation is the old system

cosmic raft
austere ivy
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I've seem some plugins where in their main they get every single config value and then have to access the main to get the values and I was considering doing that but thank goodness that it caches them since constantly updating that list to use any new values I add would've been a pain.

pulsar wigeon
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the new system is the parametric one

slim nymph
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@somber mirage please strongly document behavioral goals lol

pulsar wigeon
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unfortunately WE is a mess of 3 different command systems right now

austere ivy
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I mean that's the main reason I switched to ACF, is because it was a pain having to add to plugin.yml

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plugin?

slim nymph
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and we use obfuscation helpers now

pulsar wigeon
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all nicely integrated together lol

acoustic pilot
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You planning to stick around for Hytale, Ice?

austere ivy
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what's it for

acoustic pilot
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Some opportunities there, too, hopefully.

slim nymph
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so WE is using intake now?

somber mirage
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Hytale is my other motivation for poking my head back in the door

pulsar wigeon
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technically, WE doesn't use intake

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intake is extracted from the 2nd system in WE

acoustic pilot
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Nice 😄

slim nymph
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ah

pulsar wigeon
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it was written in first, then extracted out

slim nymph
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thats what i thought i saw

pulsar wigeon
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it is definitely quite a clusterfuck lol

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pretty sure i'm the only person who can keep up with all the different major revisions in WE/WG

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even sk doesn't remember the things he does every few years

slim nymph
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but yeah since WE already has a system like ACF's you dont get much benefit to switch outside of purely "I dont wanna maintain it anymore" lol

pulsar wigeon
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which is one of the reasons it's a mess

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lol yea

limber knotBOT
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sex

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sex

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sex

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sex

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sex

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sex

austere ivy
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nice

pulsar wigeon
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hot

limber knotBOT
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sex

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sex

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sex

slim nymph
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though these systems are free to maintain pretty much

limber knotBOT
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l

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sex

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sex

austere ivy
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wow this is great I love this

limber knotBOT
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thx

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thx

slim nymph
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yes sex good hi

austere ivy
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very good

static badge
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wtf is this shit

austere ivy
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bye bye

slim nymph
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someone on irc?

limber knotBOT
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fuck me

slim nymph
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@upper flicker

limber knotBOT
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fuck me

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fuck me

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fuck me

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fuck me

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fuck me

austere ivy
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no!

limber knotBOT
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fuck me

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fuck me

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fuck me

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fuck me

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fuck me

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fuck me

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fuck me

austere ivy
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we said no

somber mirage
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@slim nymph Expected behavior: cannons that work on 1.7/1.8 work on 1.X

austere ivy
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go away please no one likes yu.

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thnaks

finite wave
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Let’s fuck this person

acoustic pilot
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Problem being that nobody here knows how cannons should behave 😛

static badge
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already left :>

true canyon
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I think they want that, Jan

finite wave
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Yes yes

austere ivy
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@void void that sounds like a giant amount of stuff. Logging? Essentials?

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) Scale of Things in Minecraft - length 3m 22s - 47,301 likes, 4,039 dislikes (92.1%) - 3,820,921 views - carykh on 2012.06.25

void void
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nty

pulsar wigeon
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Ice, that's not even true of minecraft though

austere ivy
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I mean maybe you should have some separate things like Essentials does.

finite wave
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Its back

austere ivy
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zbk-logging

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zbk-ban

pulsar wigeon
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things like cannons break all the time even without mods

austere ivy
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zbk-stuff, etc.

limber knotBOT
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wat

finite wave
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Sex

limber knotBOT
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aikar it's 2's shit tier bot

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I dont see those messages on irc side

austere ivy
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I think that would be better than just one big plugin like "zbkEssentials" since people can pick and choose what they need for themselves.

finite wave
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Weird

limber knotBOT
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aikar again it's 2's shit tier bot, it had a latency spike

austere ivy
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Like if I'm running a minimal vanilla style server then I can just pick the logging rather than everything else.

cosmic raft
austere ivy
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So I don't think zbk- whatever is too bad.

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:P

slim nymph
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who is 2

cosmic raft
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see album

static badge
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2750

upper flicker
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it wasnt lag

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I can see all of those messages on IRC

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it was just some random ass spammer

limber knotBOT
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^

static badge
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so what caused ur dumb bot to send the messages 10s late?

slim nymph
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wtf is my client filtering it then

upper flicker
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take a deep breath and channel your inner not a fucking retard

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for once

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thanks leaf

limber knotBOT
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censoring for yourself

static badge
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spicy

slim nymph
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this new quassel update is buggy

finite wave
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One must really be lonely

slim nymph
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i miss messages on connect

limber knotBOT
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hugs weechat

finite wave
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To go spam about needing to get fucked

austere ivy
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@cosmic raft I think pagination style /help commands are great, they're super sleek, especially when you have a server with very grouped commands.. but sometimes you want to be lazy and dump all the commands in a pile haha :P

slim nymph
limber knotBOT
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also guys when is #paper-dev going to get bridged?

cosmic raft
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what does that have to do with it @austere ivy?

slim nymph
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just use discord for dev 😛

cosmic raft
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I'm showing how the pages look and function :P

limber knotBOT
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it's currently me & aikar in tha channel :(

austere ivy
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With pagination you can't really have /help 1 and /help 2 (I guess you can..)

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Yeah but those look absolutely stunning.

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Do you have them direct in code or do you have a parser style thing and keep them in a config.yml type file?

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Also zbk I was going to suggest zEssentials-(module) but those are already taken haha.

limber knotBOT
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thanks :)

austere ivy
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If you put a bit more care into it, having them divided into different pages rather than just /page 1 /page 2 etc, it looks a lot sleeker and a lot easier to navigate.

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I also love those colors Kash

limber knotBOT
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I just honest to god got recommend to install gentoo when I was complaining that nvm is stupid

worn ember
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@cosmic raft is that an api? 🤔

cosmic raft
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api?

austere ivy
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I wish that Minecraft could allow you to left-justify, center, and right-justify text.

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According to the chat width.

worn ember
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the pagination thingy

cosmic raft
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it's re-usable, if that's what you mean

austere ivy
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Because then you wouldn't have to worry about the exact number of filler characters to get your label to the center of the chat, and then sometimes if people use a different chat width it looks awful..

finite wave
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Shh

austere ivy
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is there a way to get the client's chat width and send them different messages according to it?

finite wave
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No

worn ember
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do you have it published somewhere?

austere ivy
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dang.

cosmic raft
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it's not public

worn ember
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sad face

static badge
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that would break the moment the client decides to change the chat width

austere ivy
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I can't imagine it'd be super hard to make yourself with ACF.

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Just a lot of subcommands right?

cosmic raft
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I can make it public if you want

austere ivy
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Or do you have a parser and a config.yml style thing?

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do you have a github zbk?

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where can I see this magical acf help generator o-o

austere ivy
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this is the most confusing UI ever, github

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do I have a notification or not

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Asking about JetBrains licensing?? lol what??

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Yikes.

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That's censorship.

fallen oracle
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Apparently that was enough for then to send DMCAS

worn ember
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@cosmic raft nah its alright :p i'll figure it out lol

austere ivy
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oh not to you zbk about the other thing

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lemme check it out zbk

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zbk

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is that a lambda

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I still have been putting off learning them and I'm scared

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oh hey that's not too bad

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basically just little tiny functions

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that you can't reuse.

finite wave
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Are you serious

austere ivy
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hold on I'm reading I'm reading

finite wave
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Function<T,U> can take a lamdba

gloomy warren
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Or FunktionalInterfaces

turbid birch
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would anyone be willing to help with a server lag insane and then crash error im having?

finite wave
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Run timings

turbid birch
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i've tried that

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its not like that

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its not a timings thing

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would you like the full server log

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thats where the errors are

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ye ik

limber knotBOT
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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oh yeah

austere ivy
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one thing I dislike about geeksforgeeks is their code style

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it infuriates me and makes it hard to read.

turbid birch
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i've uploaded it, its too large for a paste bin thing

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is anyone looking at it

austere ivy
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uh

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Seemed like server was rebooting?

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Seems like you have an issue with LoginProcessingThread.

turbid birch
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im wondering if its a NBT crash item

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but im pretty sure i blocked NBT crash items

austere ivy
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Is it a creative server?

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Do you know who puddingward is?

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Is it an offline server?

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[22:57:38] [Server thread/INFO]: TheSaltyWidower issued server command: /itemdb

turbid birch
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its an online server, i know who puddingward is and it is a creative server

austere ivy
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Yeah if you could answer those three questions it could help a lot.

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OK thanks.

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I think maybe someone did a huge worldedit.

turbid birch
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there are worldedit restrictions

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it shouldnt be worldedit

austere ivy
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Seems like there's nothing going wrong, then suddenly a huge lagspike.

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Server stops responding.

turbid birch
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i know

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thats why im wondering if its an item doing it

austere ivy
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TPS then goes somehow below 0.

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I have no idea but I've never seen something like that doing this.

turbid birch
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1.13 seems to of allowed items with nbt that crash servers instantly

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is there a plugin that blocks harmful nbt

austere ivy
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Yikes, yeah.

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I have no idea I'm not experienced with that, your best bet is waiting till someone who is arrives.

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Hmmm yeah.

turbid birch
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ahhh im desperate

austere ivy
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[22:59:42] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]: --- DO NOT REPORT THIS TO PAPER - THIS IS NOT A BUG OR A CRASH  - git-Paper-564 (MC: 1.13.2) ---
[22:59:42] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]: The server has not responded for 25 seconds! Creating thread dump
[22:59:42] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]: ------------------------------
[22:59:42] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]: Server thread dump (Look for plugins here before reporting to Paper!):
[22:59:42] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]: ------------------------------
[22:59:42] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]: Current Thread: Server thread
[22:59:42] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]:     PID: 26 | Suspended: false | Native: false | State: RUNNABLE
[22:59:42] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]:     Stack:
[22:59:42] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]:         java.util.WeakHashMap.expungeStaleEntries(Unknown Source)
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You keep going down this and it seems like you hit worldEdit stuff.

worn ember
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@turbid birch usually normal players can't set nbt tags I think?

austere ivy
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Creative hotbar, Darkeye.

turbid birch
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they can make op items then import it

austere ivy
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Creative hotbar is a nightmare for control freaks because you literally cannot control it.

worn ember
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Oh welp

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Idk what those even are

austere ivy
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Seems like worldedit.. worldedit..

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then somehow I see this

turbid birch
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no worldedit commands were run that were harmful though?

austere ivy
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packets about items?

turbid birch
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aha

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that looks interesting

austere ivy
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right now just looking at those is your best bet.

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items and worldedit should be your starting point.

turbid birch
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is anyone here a coder who could make something that blocks NBT

austere ivy
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it would be best if you can somehow isolate what caused it and reproduced it.

turbid birch
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i've looked into worldedit, it isnt that

finite wave
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Yo, can u send just the stacktrace thx.

austere ivy
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it isn't Jan

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there's no stacktrace

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TPS just goes to below 0 and dies

finite wave
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Watchdog has a stacktrace kthx

turbid birch
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i think its to do with NBT items

austere ivy
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I dunnno about that

finite wave
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Make a small plugin to check nbt tag of all offline players

turbid birch
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i havent been able to find a plugin that blocks harmful nbt

worn ember
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Lol wut

austere ivy
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Actually yeah.

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Stacktrace.

finite wave
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Cause there isn’t supposed to be one Doogie.

austere ivy
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You sure it's an online server, Doogie?

turbid birch
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it uses bungee

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but its all verified

finite wave
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Doogie is this 1.13?

austere ivy
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something something something

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[23:00:15] [LoginProcessingThread/ERROR]: [LuckPerms] Exception occurred whilst loading data for 0320ae65-02d8-46de-84b0-2ab825696538 - postnutsyndrome
turbid birch
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113.2

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@austere ivy that happens after the insane lag though

finite wave
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Nah thats just luckperms

austere ivy
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Yeah so before that there's no stack trace.

fallen oracle
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That name tho

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That's fucking hilarious

finite wave
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If you have an issue with nbt tags crashing the server you should make an issue.

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Just figure out how though.

austere ivy
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There's a stacktrace at the end..

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it's another copy of [23:00:15] [LoginProcessingThread/ERROR]: [LuckPerms] Exception occurred whilst loading data for 0320ae65-02d8-46de-84b0-2ab825696538 - postnutsyndrome

finite wave
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I can’t scroll down there on my phone

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And thats not really useful Brian

austere ivy
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it isn't

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there's nothing else useful that isn't reported by spigotlib

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except paper watchdog thread

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and we already went over that

finite wave
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K, i’ll check. @turbid birch Send me that guys player file

turbid birch
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that players online now

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they seem harmless

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nothing in their inventory

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some houses on their plot

austere ivy
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.. might be LuckPerms

worn ember
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It seems to be some corrupt data for luckperms

austere ivy
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I doubt it I use it mysel.

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myself.

finite wave
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K, and no.

turbid birch
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i really think it might be NBT issues

finite wave
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Pls send me the stacktrace

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Thx

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I’m still waiting

austere ivy
turbid birch
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idk what stacktrace is im not an expert

austere ivy
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sometimes looks like that.

turbid birch
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isnt that just part of the log i sent you

austere ivy
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it is.

finite wave
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Well, it’s not a paper problem. Have u tried removing WE and see what happens?

turbid birch
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yes

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still no difference

finite wave
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Are you able to replicate the bug?

turbid birch
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crashes

austere ivy
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FOUND IT

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GOT IT

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Do you have any plugins which modify how fast a player goes?

turbid birch
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i have nocheatplus

finite wave
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Essentials

austere ivy
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huh

turbid birch
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and essentials /speed 1-10

austere ivy
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[23:00:18] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]: During the run of the server, a plugin set an excessive velocity on an entity
[23:00:18] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]: This may be the cause of the issue, or it may be entirely unrelated
[23:00:18] [Paper Watchdog Thread/ERROR]: Excessive velocity set detected: tried to set velocity of entity 2a028d89-f240-4fa7-ab09-3e2d982db2bc id #81962 to (0.0024296304673512036,-6.75,-0.03519601057357086).
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well

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there's that

finite wave
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Thats velocity not speed though

austere ivy
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OK here.

turbid birch
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ucars hmmm

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its odd that this error is only just happening now

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ive had ucars for ages

austere ivy
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That's paper watchdog and it's the largest one after 60 seconds.

finite wave
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Skript ew

austere ivy
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Not the problem, though.

finite wave
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Some guy probbaly just figured out how to place a ucar so everything explodes then?

turbid birch
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ucars is publicly available to all players

finite wave
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Try removing it and see if crashes stop

golden gust
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Looks like some worldedit operation

finite wave
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Cat to the rescue

acoustic pilot
#

Spotify really pisses me off. If you have large playlists, they're useless.

golden gust
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The velocity thing is probably irrelevant

finite wave
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Yeah, server thread mentions worldedit

acoustic pilot
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Spotify only queues like 80 songs and then repeats the queue, regardless of how big your playlist is.

pulsar wigeon
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nah, watchdog spitting out AWE stacktraces every 10 seconds is totally a red herring, cat

finite wave
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But he said even when removed it still crashes Cat

atomic marten
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think spotify plays more than 80 songs

turbid birch
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ill unload ucars and see if it still happens

acoustic pilot
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@atomic marten Doesn't for me on PC or mobile. Play a playlist from the beginning. Watch the queue repeat after 80-90 songs.

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You can see the queue, there's a button for it.

atomic marten
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Mine doesnt do that

acoustic pilot
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(From a playlist of over 400)

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Seems to be a known issue, has been reported.

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And never fixed.

atomic marten
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think interesting, maybe size effects it showing up?

turbid birch
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meanwhile you tube has disabled the filter feature to show videos in the past day, week, month, year etc

atomic marten
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Think my longest is ~230

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Wait wat really?

turbid birch
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yes

acoustic pilot
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My playlist has 464 songs, even if I copy those tracks into a new playlist, same thing. Playing the playlist from top to bottom only plays the first 80-90 songs before repeating them again.

finite wave
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Lol

mighty shard
acoustic pilot
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@atomic marten Are you manually clicking on tracks to change songs? Because that will refresh the queue. But letting it play songs without intervention will repeat the queue.

atomic marten
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think no

atomic marten
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i do skip though, maybe that does too?

acoustic pilot
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For me skipping doesn't do it, no. If it reaches the end of the queue through skips, it still repeats the queue.

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It's weird as hell and happens on both PC and mobile.

cosmic raft
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happens to me too from time to time

acoustic pilot
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It's really frustrating to always hear the same 80-90 tracks repeated from a playlist of 464 >_>

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Seems to always happen for me.

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Really devalues the worth of Premium for me.

unreal quarry
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Is that why clicking on a "radio" station on Spotify repeats the same crap? :O

acoustic pilot
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Your queue might be repeating like mine, yeah. Keep an eye out on the queue, there's a button for it

cosmic raft
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44 pages

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2012 -> 2019

acoustic pilot
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Spotify's shuffle is absolute garbage.

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It's why I use a list randomizer and just paste the randomized list into a new playlist

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Good thing you can copy/paste in Spotify playlists

cosmic raft
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I see you're listening to XXX tentacle

vestal jasper
acoustic pilot
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I'm just skipping through all the tracks lol

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rip X 😦

pulsar wigeon
#

i've found that every player i've ever used has garbage shuffle

acoustic pilot
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Maybe they try to be too clever lol

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When all they really should be doing is ... shuffle.

pulsar wigeon
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well, some of them aren't clever enough

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like playing the same thing twice in a row

atomic marten
#

O, shuffle

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I have Modipy handle that think

cosmic raft
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yeah, would be nice if shuffle worked better

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playlist of 528 songs, would be nice to hear more of them :P

vestal jasper
#

Just randomly name all of the files in a folder and play alphabetically

atomic marten
#

i havent tried it with the standard spotify client yet

limber knotBOT
#

foobar2000 has a nice addon that tracks play times of songs and namdomizes based on that ;D

pulsar wigeon
#

so, it tries to balance it? or vice versa?

cosmic raft
#

Mopidy looks neat

acoustic pilot
#

Hm, yeah maybe this is what I need.

pulsar wigeon
#

balancing play counts sounds bad too, because i'll often start by listening to a song on repeat for a few days before putting it back into the playlist on shuffle

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so then i'd never heard that song again for a while...or hear it again right away because it's "new" to the playlist

limber knotBOT
#

well you could just track6the playcount in the playlist ant not outside. I don't really listen to songs on repeat ¯_(ツ)_/¯

cosmic raft
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also mfw

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$ yay -S mopidy-spotify
:: There are 2 providers available for mopidy-spotify:
:: Repository AUR
    1) mopidy-spotify 2) mopidy-spotify-playlist-fix-git
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mopidy-spotify-playlist-fix-git lol

acoustic pilot
#

lol

limber knotBOT
#

iirc Apple ended up changing the iPod shuffle feature after people complained it seemed ot love the Beatles

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Because it was a true random instead of a, you know, shuffle

worn ember
#

@acoustic pilot Spotify premium really isn't worth the money imo

cosmic raft
#

seems mopidy isn't as nice as I thought, especially since all the mpd clients are shit it seems

worn ember
#

I literally have the same songs or garbage songs when shuffling. I'd rather listen to their ads

wheat quarry
#

I feel like the correct way is to shuffle the playlist internally when it gets created/songs added then reshuffle when it's done with all songs

limber knotBOT
#

Well, yeah

pulsar wigeon
#

and make sure you dont play the last song first.

worn ember
#

Haha

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Fukin Spotify cx

golden gust
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\o/

golden gust
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"Hey, this upstream merge went easier than expected"

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build fails

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Turns out I forgot to delete the decompiled mc sources.. \o/

upper flicker
#

just gotta keep deleting

static badge
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yeah you're right

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delete the whole thing and it gets better

upper flicker
#

delete all the trees

static badge
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where u gonna get paper from den u dum fuk

upper flicker
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we'll synthesize new paper

pulsar wigeon
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synthetic paper isn't recyclable

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you're going to have political campaigns pointing out how anti-green you are

static badge
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2 you couldn't make paper if you had 3 braincells

upper flicker
#

we'll recycle leafs into paper

static badge
#

2

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can u hear me

upper flicker
#

finally bringing some meaning to their worthless existence

static badge
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if u had at least 3 braincells u would just use wood like normal people

pulsar wigeon
#

ask the little pig how sticks worked out for him

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) At the end of the day we're all just oversized children : Sysadminhumor - 9 comments, 7 points - stupidFlanders417, 12h ago

wide hazel
#

Lol

austere ivy
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@slim nymph I do not understand it xD

wide hazel
#

69

void void
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lol egg said the sex number giggles

austere ivy
#

..

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,_,

wide hazel
#

We're all children at heart

limber knotBOT
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(DiscordBot) An actual cafe in Seoul, Korea : woahdude - 65 comments, 3,888 points - PR0CR45T184T0R, 6h ago

austere ivy
#

,____,

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Every Meme Of Gabbie Hanna's Monster Meme for 10 Minutes - length 10m 7s - 16,271 likes, 1,872 dislikes (89.7%) - 779,025 views - Jack on 2018.12.13

austere ivy
#

Howdy @void void, can I take a peek at the code?

slim nymph
#

man, md5 just really hates plugin devs now doesnt he

wide hazel
#

?

slim nymph
#

changing mappings updates repeatedly and no longer updating package revision

wide hazel
#

ooh

slim nymph
#

i mean i like that mappings are getting updated finally, but punishing to plugins heh

wide hazel
#

which mappings?

static badge
#

did he do another mappings updat

#

e

wide hazel
#

1.13 hurt

austere ivy
#

what do you mean mappings updates, Aikar?

wide hazel
#

he's at his monthly message quota 😛

static badge
#

hexchat

upper flicker
#

leafchat

static badge
#

.g leafchat

limber knotBOT
static badge
#

holy shit

upper flicker
#

mfw thats a real thing

static badge
#

"Last update: v2.5 (2012-07-29) "

somber mirage
#

2012 is still a full featured IRC chat

static badge
#

that 2012 design though

#

you know what that's my new client

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oh my "Requires Java 5+. If you don't already have Java, please get it from java.com."

upper flicker
#

its everything we feared

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oh no no no

static badge
#

oh yes

upper flicker
#

its everything wrong with old windows apps

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its a window of windows

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the settings window is a little window in the workspace

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ugh

limber knotBOT
#

sounds like a windows app to me

upper flicker
limber knotBOT
#

its worse than i feared

static badge
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upper flicker
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and like all good java apps written 10 years ago

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it doesnt run on 11

austere ivy
#

.g Brianchat

limber knotBOT
austere ivy
#

also zbk

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:(

static badge
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"leafChat comes with two themes: with leaves or without"

limber knotBOT
#

beautiful isn't it

ornate spindle
upper flicker
#

why does everyone keep having that issue

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GH wut r u doin

limber knotBOT
upper flicker
#

bad memes

ornate spindle
#

it only started to show up for me today

limber knotBOT
#

oh 2 ur just jealous of my client

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it's got a leaf in the bottom left corner

#

I was having that annoying issue today too lol

austere ivy
#

zbk please

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I need the help

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help me

static badge
#

"d3ed1516 Fix dangerously threaded beacons" did md69 finally

limber knotBOT
#

oh and it's still an issue

austere ivy
#

@void void

#

help

limber knotBOT
#

what are those images

#

glad i dont have to see those

austere ivy
#

TENORS

#

clap clap cRINGY TENORS

limber knotBOT
#

another example of dumcordians bein dum

#

dance Spottedleaf

#

(kashike) Alexander Rybak - "Котик" / "Kotik" (Official Music Video) - length 3m 38s - 436,751 likes, 35,597 dislikes (92.5%) - 101,109,068 views - AlexanderRybakVideo on 2015.06.03

austere ivy
#

what is this

limber knotBOT
#

music

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msn i need larger text

austere ivy
limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Why "Single Ladies" is so cool | Q+A - length 13m 50s - 8,774 likes, 56 dislikes (99.4%) - 163,064 views - Adam Neely on 2019.03.18

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i can't fucking see anything on this client

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there we go

#

u made a client?

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ariel 20

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no

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.g leafchat

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you're actually using it?

austere ivy
#

.g brianirc

limber knotBOT
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austere ivy
#

garbage. no.

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.g briandiscord

limber knotBOT
#

exactly u r garbage

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oh yes this is my new client

austere ivy
#

HA

limber knotBOT
#

ok use it

austere ivy
#

.g brian

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) https://www.brianwilson.com/ -- Brian Wilson: "Official Website for Beach Boys Legend Brian Wilson, Inventor of California."

austere ivy
#

.github brian

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.git brian

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Please enter a valid URL to shorten

austere ivy
#

.gh brian

limber knotBOT
#

(DiscordBot) Repository has 2 open issues.

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dumcordians

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retardians

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should be banned from commands

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=seen -n esper RoboMWM

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RoboMWM was last seen 19h21m57s ago quitting EsperNet

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:(

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wat

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.rekt

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☑ The Green Rekt

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=seen Spottedleaf

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Spottedleaf was last seen 3h32m2s ago saying "aikar again it's 2's shit tier bot, it had a latency spike" in #paper

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that's true it was his shit tier bot

austere ivy
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ooahhghaueghaeguhaidhoiuahwdiuhaiosdhahwdkasdkhadkadshhahd

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=seen TehBrian

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KOROBI

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=seen TehBrian

limber knotBOT
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=seen TehBrian

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TehBrian was last seen 2w1d6h4m28s ago quitting SpigotMC

austere ivy
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Huh.

limber knotBOT
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=seen -n esper RoboMWM

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RoboMWM was last seen 25s ago saying "im here ur bot blind" in #kashike on EsperNet

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=seen -n esper kashike

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kashike was last seen 19h24m22s ago quitting EsperNet

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heh

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netsplit made it go out of sync

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Howdy.

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:)

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=seen TehBrian

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holds up a mirror

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=seen -n esper kashike

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kashike was last seen 5s ago saying "kashike eats RoboMWM" in #kashike on EsperNet

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=seen TehBrian -n esper

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TehBrian was last seen 158w2d21h39m2s ago parting from #bukkit on EsperNet

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Weird

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=seen -n esper EvilSeph

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EvilSeph was last seen 119w1d21h15m24s ago quitting EsperNet

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=seen yeet

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yeet was last seen 1w5d6h30m4s ago changing their nick to meeksorkim

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=seen meeksorkim

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meeksorkim was last seen 1w5d3h23m18s ago changing their nick to mikroskeem

slim nymph
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=seen md_5's sanity

limber knotBOT
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:blobhyperthink:

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=seen mikroskeem

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mikroskeem was last seen 3h33m56s ago saying "it's currently me & aikar in tha channel :(" in #paper

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=seem Aikar

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=seen Aikar

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Aikar was last seen 3h36m6s ago saying "I dont see those messages on irc side" in #paper

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📚📚

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=seen md_5

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md_5 was last seen taking authorship of aikar's patches

austere ivy
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What xD

limber knotBOT
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=seen TehBrian

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holds up a mirror

slim nymph
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LOL

limber knotBOT
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@slim nymph gets it

austere ivy
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=seen TehBrian

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See is that like a custom thing or something I'm not sure haha

limber knotBOT
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=seen help

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help was last seen 13w5d2h31m57s ago saying "kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys kys" in #paper

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yikes

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what's the joke for that mirror thing

limber knotBOT
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well you simply do

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mirror thing?

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=seen (yourself)

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TehBrian: (yourself) is a ghost.

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=seen TehBrian

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holds up a mirror

slim nymph
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thats a lot of KY Silicone Jelly

limber knotBOT
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=seen -n spigot jarcode

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RoboMWM: jarcode is a ghost.

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=seen -n spigot -i jarcode

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=help

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=commands

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=korobi

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Jarcode was last seen 95w1d5h20m36s ago changing their nick to LaxWasHere on SpigotMC

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-i = case-insensitive search

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ah

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=seen mom

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TehBrian: mom is a ghost.

austere ivy
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;(

limber knotBOT
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=seen dad

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TehBrian: dad is a ghost.

slim nymph
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lax needs to come visit me and eat tacos

austere ivy
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😭

limber knotBOT
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=seen Hex

austere ivy
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I'll eat some tacos.

limber knotBOT
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Hex was last seen 3d6h54m38s ago saying "oh we were cooking some fish" in #paper

austere ivy
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I'm up for some tacos.

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Ground beef, lettuce, cheese, sour cream, light drizzle of ketchup to add a nice bit of vinegar.

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Delicious.

slim nymph
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wtf

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thats kick worthy

austere ivy
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How do you eat your tacos

slim nymph
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not with fucking ketchup

austere ivy
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everyone says ketchup is weird :(

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tacos are weird