#folia-testing-2
gentle sentinel
valid linden
noble sable
finally, the uwu channel
sturdy flicker
uwu
fervent halo
uwu
tepid yarrow
uwu
noble sable
uwu
wet tree
uwu
low cedar
uwu
vivid trellis
uwu
quiet cove
please give me betab vesrionb of folia so i dont gotta compress the src file to a jar
vivid trellis
quiet cove
let me use folia
noble sable
the uwu chain 
livid cloud
Some decent time now.
wet tree
Does anyone have the recordings for Folia test 1?
faint gust
what
idle swallowBOT
β οΈ Please do not share any links to builds of Folia at this time. We are intentionally not providing easy to find/obtain downloads right now - when the time is right, everything will be available through official PaperMC distributions.
faint gust
If you don't know how to build Folia, its not for you.
This also isn't the right channel for this
sullen inlet
uwu ;-;
quiet cove
If you don't know how to build Folia, its not for you.
This also isn't the right...
i do :sku
weary jetty
They got kicked, jroy
noble sable
in the nuts
dense violet
then i will allow anyone to use the compression version !
halcyon kestrel
needs more jpeg
faint gust
its broken π¦
dense violet
wrong java version
spare linden
Omg
runic crow
what's folia
idle swallowBOT
'ETA' means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
sullen inlet
I'm pretty sure they wanted you to compress the github repository so here you go Kappa
devout tundra
hoary pier
silk granite
novel cobalt
Would be nice to do the test on a different system like a 7950x to see the difference compared to the epyc.
weary jetty
That's the idea, yes.
lost phoenix
this one is on 7950X3D
weary jetty
. . . no.
novel cobalt
Does the 3D cache have a benefit for servers? Or is paper/folia not optimized for that?
spare linden
orchid abyss
should already know this, these cpus aren't new
spare linden
Who should already know what, Borlea?
vagrant mason
The 3D cache turns the CPU into an odd duck
orchid abyss
Who should already know what, Borlea?
surely someone has tested if they're good or not for servers
they do lower clock speed which is what minecraft likes tho
vagrant mason
The CCD with the cache can't clock as high but the CCD without it pays a latency penalty to access the new cache
So it's probably a wash if you can't keep your workload on a single CCD
spare linden
Good for servers vs good for folia can be a bit different, Borlea π€
vagrant mason
And some things will prefer the cache while some will prefer the clocks
orchid abyss
that's why you use the 5800x3d or 7800x3d and not the 950x3d π not sure why the higher core count ones event exist but I guess amd has a reason
orchid abyss
Good for servers vs good for folia can be a bit different, Borlea π€
he did mention paper in general too, not sure any info truely exists for folia, especially with it being in early development, any testing could be nullified quickly.
weary jetty
Who should already know what, Borlea?
I mean, they're pretty new, and so is Folia.
CPU has been out for, what 4 months or something?
Takes a while to get hosts that have it available
Etc etc
spare linden
Meant to reply to message above mine? :3
spare linden
π
weary jetty
should already know this, these cpus aren't new
^^ see above
rare gyro
this one is on 7950X3D
white spear
https://discord.gg/papermc?event=1119739851449843863
Iβm looking forward to this event
rare gyro
Please join us as part of the community engagement and help the rat gathers more real world data!
white spear
This channel will be archived after this event right?
neon raft
see you guys later
white spear
see you guys later
?
white spear
https://discord.gg/papermc?event=1119739851449843863
How long will this event last?
valid linden
maybe a few hours, or a few days, depending on how it goes
valid linden
mossy nest
Is 100GB of RAM enough for my server??
valid linden
Is 100GB of RAM enough for my server??
i guess that will depend on gc pressure
mossy nest
oh I can pressure it alright
valid linden
mossy nest
scheduleSyncRepeatingTask(this, () -> System.gc(), 1, 1);
valid linden
-XX:+DisableExplicitGC
mossy nest
damn it
velvet cradle
`scheduleSyncRepeatingTask(this, () -> System.gc(), 1, 1);`
this one simple trick
programmers hate him
quaint garden
Hello Paper you need some world edit tool for the testing ?
sullen inlet
that thing is gonna run a thousand players on a vanilla world? damn
mossy nest
that thing is gonna run a thousand players on a vanilla world? damn
nah, Folia is
sullen inlet
ofc ofc
uncut field
valid linden
out of curiosity what terminal is that, you have way nicer colors seems like
kitty
I use this theme: https://github.com/dexpota/kitty-themes/blob/master/themes/Pnevma.conf
white ingot
alacritty when
valid linden
alocritty doesn't even have tabs π
white ingot
tmux does π
fast onyx
yeah ok do you want me to go like ^b %
Control + b + s to switch, control + b + x to kill screen
Also you can use commands
fast onyx
π
valid linden
proxmox go brr
pulsar vault
look at my awesome neofetch
white ingot
real skiff
fast ivy
willow portal
clever bear
We sharing neofetches, now?
frosty coyote
So much talk about folia around here :p
fast onyx
R9 7950X with 6GB of ram
its splitted, i could have 64gb i think
uncut field
its splitted, i could have 64gb i think
yea 3 cores was on that too
fast onyx
yea 3 cores was on that too
yes, i know. I could put 16
useless for what is beeing used
uncut field
yes, i know. I could put 16
2 Cores of that is enough for a single Paper server
i think 3 cores of that is more powerful than my R5 3600
fast onyx
Im using it for hosting some backend services haha
The other resources, are for a big-server
fast onyx
i think 3 cores of that is more powerful than my R5 3600
On single core performance yes. probably the r5 3600x with all the cores could be better than 2 cores on some multi task
uncut field
valid linden
uncut field
my #2 favorite website
fast onyx
i like versus.com
valid linden
papermc.io must be your favorite right
uncut field
Sure! pcpartpicker.com
valid linden
i think that's the wrong answer
uncut field
spigotmc π
well its kinda true, but Hangar can replace it like replacing Bungeecord with Velocity
fast onyx
well its kinda true, but Hangar can replace it like replacing Bungeecord with Ve...
I think that won't happen for years.
SpigotMC by far is the biggest, also bungeecord still the most used proxy for now.
How ever is time,
uncut field
yea
fast onyx
Well, if md_5 start accepting requests on bungeecord could improve it.
But that didn't happend on 10 years
tepid yarrow
Bungee has a huge spacebar heating problem
uncut field
well velocity with lower server count has more players, it means better & bigger servers use Velocity
tepid yarrow
Velocity has some pros, but theres also a bunch of stuff which reallyneeds some love
Well, yea, but unless you keep your proxy light or have a dev team, there is a huge level of waiting for the ecosystem to move forward
valid linden
that moment when you forgot to disable bstats
spice condor
my stats 
spare narwhal
Well, yea, but unless you keep your proxy light or have a dev team, there is a h...
interesting, what plugins nowadays are in bungee that aren't for velocity? (or at least an alternative) since the appearance of limboreconnect, which allows server restarts to feel like you didn't even disconnect from the server (which before was considered a bungee only feature), i don't know such plugins anymore
fast onyx
Bungee has a huge spacebar heating problem
probably i'd like to pull request a lot of ideas to waterfall
Since a lot of people likes bukkit system etc
Im thinking how, also
tepid yarrow
I got ill and 2019 and haven't fully recovered, slowly been getting thee, but, a lot of stuff has kinda just fallen off my radar
Waterfall in general is on that list given how much of an ass it is to deal with, and the fact that it's making less and less sense to try to maintain the thing
spice condor
wezterm >>>>
valid linden
where is leaf when you need him
spice condor
the best terminal
white ingot
fervent halo
i found it while comparing alacritty & some other gpu accelerated terminal emulator
deep salmon
that moment when you forgot to disable bstats
No need to turn it off tbh
fervent halo
think kitty actualy
valid linden
No need to turn it off tbh
those are just bots though
fervent halo
since both apparently suck but wezterm has best of both worlds & has terminal multiplexing without tmux
valid linden
had bots on one of my folia testing servers for a whole week
spice condor
forklift hates good terminals
valid linden
Hyper 
fast onyx
Waterfall in general is on that list given how much of an ass it is to deal with...
Could you say what's your list? I could implement some of them.
fast onyx
interesting, what plugins nowadays are in bungee that aren't for velocity? (or a...
Also old server owners still prefeir the Bukkit style, same as developers
tepid yarrow
I don't even remember, it's been some time
biggest issue is that doing anything with it is often a week of work because your're gonna break something stupid whenever you touch anything
fast onyx
Yeah, that's true. It could be solved also.
I think first one for me already it's on a pull request "the copy()" thingy.
tepid yarrow
well, yea; issue is that that needs testing, and I don't have the means to do it
fast onyx
I implemented on my own fork and seems if no plugin changes the buffer is not modified
Plugins like viaversion would not work on the proxy, but who uses it
fervent halo
viaversion on proxy >>>>>>>
fast onyx
How ever, if you "want" viaversion on the proxy just enable again entity rewriting
tepid yarrow
I mean, given that I used to work for a server which installed via on the proxy during certain phases of the update
like, it's better on the servers, but, that's not always an option
fervent halo
it is so much nicer on the proxy though because you can just rotate a new proxy in
fast onyx
I mean, given that I used to work for a server which installed via on the proxy ...
I see, but you can just enable again entity rewriting and would copy packets again
fast onyx
It would be exactly the same if you had it enabled, but if no plugin depends on it. You could disable it and it would "improve" a little bit the performance by compressing long packets
fast onyx
I can't just break a plugin as popular as via on the default config
Isn't rewriting thingy disabled by default?
fast onyx
It would be exactly the same if you had it enabled, but if no plugin depends on ...
Then it should work by default, but if some owner doesn't want it. It could
tepid yarrow
oh, i thought i flipped that over at some point
it's been advive we've given for years though here and there, so breaking that would just be kinda bleh
at the very least somebody should go talk to them
fervent halo
look if you remotely cared about performance you wouldn't be using waterfall
just don't touch it
fast onyx
Doesn't make sense, we're trying to improve it
tepid yarrow
it's a stale platform
fast onyx
look if you remotely cared about performance you wouldn't be using waterfall
This change should lower CPU consumption when compressing large packets
tepid yarrow
my care for waterfall generally kinda died as I no longer have much of the means to work on it and got tired of stuff breaking all the time
I don't have the hardware to work on much atm, and waterfalls build setup breaks literally every year without fail
kind coral
welcome to the folia-testing-2 chat where we're talking about waterfall being trash
valid linden
The event is delayed by 1 hour
kind coral
sadge
mossy palm
welcome to the folia-testing-2 chat where we're talking about waterfall being tr...
hihi
tepid yarrow
need to disappear to the shops before they close \o/
mossy palm
The event is delayed by 1 hour
So 17 ?
fast onyx
I don't have the hardware to work on much atm, and waterfalls build setup breaks...
Theoretically the patch should work well to replace the ByteBuf#copy if the option is enabled, how would you put it into practice? To be able to do it myself and if it could be merge. This would help many server owner
fast onyx
welcome to the folia-testing-2 chat where we're talking about waterfall being tr...
This is normal, on waterfall channel some people speaks about velocity or paper
mossy palm
Depends on your timezone
Oh yeah those exsits
German Time I think UTC + 2
CEST (UTC+2) yes :D
vagrant merlin
This is normal, on waterfall channel some people speaks about velocity or paper
But this isn't a general folia channel, right? It's just for the upcoming folia test. Also a maintainer of waterfall literally said it's a stale platform, so
elfin perch
i run folia may 1 month in product server with 160+ players, it works well but sometimes crash
vagrant merlin
Just be sane and use velocity
fast onyx
Im a waterfall user, i don't need velocity,
mossy palm
vagrant merlin
If you have waterfall, you need velocity
elfin perch
so you could see folia-github have a lot of issue in crash
fast onyx
If you have waterfall, you need velocity
I did a lot of changes to aim more better performance
So not really
solid stone
Oh yeah those exsits
the time discord tells you is in your local timezone
vagrant merlin
I did a lot of changes to aim more better performance
On your closed source(?) paid waterfall fork? π
Alright bud
fast onyx
On your closed source(?) paid waterfall fork? π
π Nobody wants to improve it as far as I can see
vagrant merlin
k
real skiff
no my 1.8 craftbukkit pvp fork that costs Β£299.99
fast onyx
no my 1.8 craftbukkit pvp fork that costs Β£299.99
I'd like to get it
vagrant merlin
I have contributed to waterfall[in my closed source paid fork]
fast onyx
I have contributed to waterfall[in my closed source paid fork]
Seems like no
On Waterfall's one
fast onyx
I have contributed to waterfall[in my closed source paid fork]
Also what's bad from it? It's MIT rigth?
vagrant merlin
Also what's bad from it? It's MIT rigth?
I don't want to keep discussing this here because this channel is for the upcoming folia test (like I mentioned before)
fast onyx
Sorry, but i'd like to know why you see it bad.
real skiff
its not contributing if its closed source
desert hornet
How would i join the test server whats the ip?
fast onyx
its not contributing if its closed source
Ok, but i mean on waterfall's repo 
valid linden
The hostname of the test server is event.innit.gg, although it's not online yet
desert hornet
its also discord link:D hehe
fast onyx
The hostname of the test server is `event.innit.gg`, although it's not online ye...
π
random schooner
how to join the testing?
real skiff
The hostname of the test server is event.innit.gg, although it's not online yet
cursive pollen
Did the event get pushed back an hour or am I tripping?
vivid trellis
Did the event get pushed back an hour or am I tripping?
It did
rare gyro
I am having some cookouts so I canβt join 
cursive pollen
Ok cool, that worked out in my favor cause I just woke up lmao
spice condor
I am having some cookouts so I canβt join <:AYAYARie:788407255200038912>
wheres our invite wtf
rare gyro
fervent halo
Ok cool, that worked out in my favor cause I just woke up lmao
what is wrong with you
spice condor
come back here
cursive pollen
what is wrong with you
Michael, don't act like you've never woken up at 5pm π
cursive pollen
I went to bed at 9am
fervent halo
okay that is the issue
cursive pollen
It issss what it issss
uncut field
1pm at most
3pm D:
fervent halo
The event is delayed by 1 hour
valid linden
livid cloud
Michael, don't act like you've never woken up at 5pm π
Yeah but it is long ago. 6+ years.
real skiff
so i can use my inside info of folia bugs to win money
neon raft
it's about to start already right?
mossy palm
In 1 hour
night owl
it's delayed by 1h
fervent halo
there is a stream
vagrant merlin
targeting 1k players, 200 users marked as interested
This isn't hosted by paper, paper are just mentioning it
stone garden
This isn't hosted by paper, paper are just mentioning it
ah?
vagrant merlin
vagrant merlin
yeah the info is vague
the way it's worded I thought paper were hosting the event too
deep salmon
we just mentioned it here because we thought people might be interested to see it
uncut field
targeting 1k players, 200 users marked as interested
ping everyone D:
neon raft
it's delayed by 1h
bruhh
neon raft
targeting 1k players, 200 users marked as interested
true
fervent halo
slowly starting up
cursive pollen
proof michael fails at his job https://sirkillian.gg/i/5tsffigen5aytrmf.png
vagrant merlin
standard https://i.imgur.com/8w7ly0c.png
cursive pollen
vagrant merlin
shuT UP killian
spice condor
skill issue
fierce island
skill issue
:spinningskull:
faint gust
my copper is doing fine
spice condor
ur copper is closer 
spice condor
40 is my min
vagrant merlin
camm what the fuck are you doing
ITS NOT ME
cursive pollen
river dagger
spice condor
gentle sentinel
I have you all beat, I have zero latency
Can't have latency if you don't even connect
spice condor
river spoke
what's folia
idle swallowBOT
'ETA' means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
deep salmon
Can't have latency if you don't even connect
no that infinite latency
faint gust
1000 players event
3 players online
spice condor
close enough
river spoke
what's multi-threaded region support
deep salmon
if you dont know what that means, it doesnt apply to you
river spoke
sed
dark mist
Whitelist off please ?
deep salmon
folia is a experimental fork for like 1% of servers
for all others, paper is still the way to go
faint gust
now even minecraft server software is only benefiting the top 1%!
river spoke
hmm
valid linden
The player count will be slowly increased
neon raft
IP? π
neon raft
ok so that was it hehe
red forge
pog
vagrant merlin
The player count will be slowly increased
Can you please whitelist CAMM_ thank you
cursive pollen
dont do it
hoary dock
no
river spoke
huhh
faint gust
give camm op instead
cursive pollen
i was so first
neon raft
whitelist? or is it because the event has not started yet?
valid linden
The server is up now
Join at event.innit.gg and Tubbo will be live soon at https://www.twitch.tv/tubbo
austere peak
We cannot walk
deep salmon
its an event, follow the stream
fervent halo
It should be kept in mind that this is a streamer event, so do not worry about spawning with slowness etc.
cursive pollen
i made a friend https://sirkillian.gg/i/2ri1naand21w6yep.png
fervent halo
@heavy herald 
mellow inlet
ip?
heavy herald
Hey gamers!
haughty forge
ive got a friend
faint gust
its pinned
mellow inlet
signal dew
ive got a friend
Hey buddy
haughty forge
yo
uncut field
lol
river dagger
haughty forge
our spawn isnt great
signal dew
yee
haughty forge
no land in any direction
faint gust
I have no idea what the goal of the event is 
cursive pollen
no land in any direction
same xd
faint gust
but we got a forest
haughty forge
rigged
signal dew
no land in any direction
Maybe south west?
faint gust
oh no we are three people now
haughty forge
perhaps
red forge
I have no idea what the goal of the event is <:OMEGALUL:922142916875542548>
crash the server
cursive pollen
ahaha look at this doofus https://sirkillian.gg/i/ru59vhqj5cskfzql.png
vagrant merlin
killian SHUT up
faint gust
imagine not having full ping
vagrant merlin
@opal fern 
opal fern
π
spice condor
guys lets all team up
amber monolith
Is it normal i can't move?
serene holly
crash the server <:kekwhyper:674093681904713729>
//calc 1+1
opal fern
Can't even move π¦
fervent halo
just press p
haughty forge
camm look at your ping HAHAHA
cursive pollen
thats too much work
faint gust
the amount of people joining now makes me think tubbo posted the IP on stream 
river dagger
oh no
serene holly
ohno
opal fern
Yeah everyone is just stuck there it seems.
spare linden
lol
deep salmon
open the stream if you wanna play
cursive pollen
the gang and our pet squid https://sirkillian.gg/i/uloyqb41hfhmgxec.png
deep salmon
faint gust
the Folia experience
sullen inlet
id love to join but my computer is running memory diagnostics lol
red forge
from where all these players coming
faint gust
deep salmon
if you wanna play, watch the stream https://www.twitch.tv/tubbo
opal fern
Ahh, so it's not lag making us not being able to move, I see now.
faint gust
so everyone who spawned together is a team, oh no
faint gust
I have to play with tubbo viewer kids
haughty forge
this is fucking rigged then
rare gyro
@ me for some screenshots! If you guys have it
haughty forge
i am in the middle of the ocean
faint gust
How many teams are there?
deep salmon
50 I think
valid linden
49 teams
haughty forge
this is a screenshot @rare gyro
faint gust
Civ is only real if you do it like ish with a story and stuff
pale wren
cursive pollen
livid cloud
A big shitshow.
haughty forge
why is sponsor-sounds upside down
brazen owl
this is a screenshot <@177150983258767360>
we're stuck step paper 
faint gust
No /tps command, very sadge
cursive pollen
@fervent halo is the world pregen cause chunky?
rare gyro
Yes
haughty forge
chunky is installed
fervent halo
<@215448923681062913> is the world pregen cause chunky?
100kx100k chunky pregen
sullen inlet
450 GB world
jesus
haughty forge
not that big
mellow inlet
@deep salmon show /tps pls
uncut field
100kx100k chunky pregen
how much it took to pregen?
deep salmon
I am not op
valid linden
we have 1.8TB in raid 1 
deep salmon
ask cubxity
haughty forge
why not raid 0
mellow inlet
cubxity, show /tps pls
valid linden
im busy rn
red forge
is this a normal mc world
mellow inlet
:(
red forge
or some custom world
valid linden
red forge
how is this gonna work are we gonna slay each otehr
valid linden
you can see this for now
whole nymph
did you not spread out players when they spawn in?
cursive pollen
not that big
red forge
70gb π
cursive pollen
its almost identical for 1.20
haughty forge
1.20 added camels so its way bigger now
valid linden
almost 800
uncut field
@valid linden sorry for ping, how much it took to pregen?
sullen inlet
someone tell the server to slow dowm it's going .2 to fast
valid linden
less than 2 days
red forge
will we be able to see our mates highlighted and are we able to kill em
faint gust
is there gonna be team chat or do we have to communicate by jumping?
willow portal
oh god i'm getting velocitied
rare gyro
is there gonna be team chat or do we have to communicate by jumping? <:kek:76166...
Use signs
red spade
willow portal
faint gust
at least they are two sided now!
mossy nest
This channel is surprisingly calm
willow portal
Well, most people are coming from the stream
red forge
last man standing on a 50k something world? π
haughty forge
cubxity getting banned
willow portal
I feel like the software is holding up but the network connection is dying or something
haughty forge
yeah network isnt doing good
cursive pollen
whats tps like
haughty forge
still 20 afaik
red forge
i think the proxy is getting fked
haughty forge
yeah
willow portal
finally he is gone
haughty forge
network 
mellow inlet
107 gb ram
spare linden
finally he is gone
Our long nightmare is over
spare narwhal
why collisions with players weren't disabled....
cursive pollen
pushing 900 tho cant really complain
spare linden
pushing 900 tho cant really complain
Oh wow!
faint gust
player list dies at 1024 iirc
spare linden
(just observing this channel from phone)
novel cobalt
Using shen gc again?
rare gyro
(just observing this channel from phone)
Same. I am the wired dude at a cookout but still checks phones
willow portal
Our long nightmare is over
nightmare is back π°
haughty forge
spare linden
Same. I am the wired dude at a cookout but still checks phones
Woo!
spare narwhal
100k worldborder?? Last man standing is gonna take like a year
maybe they will shrink it with time if it will take too much time
livid magnet
Can we get some metrics
white ingot
shoutout to cub 
quaint garden
https://i.imgur.com/SVyko6X.png
Will you the same skin like you profile ?
red forge
faint gust
Client is getting 600 packets per second, that might be an issue
red forge
proxy boutta crash
half valley
Client is getting 600 packets per second, that might be an issue <:OMEGALUL:9221...
that's not quite as bad as you think
faint gust
that's not quite as bad as you think
500 ppx was kinda when it started to have issues in my testing
valid linden
seems to be running smoothly now
faint gust
yeah I reconnected and its fine now
fervent halo
rare gyro
That 10 gb uplink is doing work
haughty forge
we have land
rare gyro
Eewww imagine not using chunky border
mellow inlet
995
faint gust
I am not seeing any mobs π
vital snow
The fact that this is playable with this many players is crazy.
sage citrus
mellow inlet
1k
cursive pollen
tf am i supposed to do
haughty forge
i dont call this playable
mossy nest
i dont call this playable
skill issue
ivory gyro
mossy nest
faint gust
I have not seen a single mob so far
haughty forge
yall must be jealous
vivid trellis
@haughty forge
haughty forge
photoshopped
rare gyro
spice condor
gonna go hide
valid linden
will leave mobs disabled for now
haughty forge
no hunger i guess?
ivory gyro
cursive pollen
someone tp me to a civ with not 100% ocean pls i give cat pics in return
fervent halo
rare gyro
mossy palm
How do you know >:C
fervent halo
anticheats would kill the fucking nettty threads
rare gyro
ok our region is completely water
Skill issue
mossy palm
Cant I go to a different region?
rare gyro
The event is themed I guess listen to streamer @mossy palm
mossy palm
Oh
valid linden
this is the spawn pattern
[(-30464, -30464), (-20224, -30464), (-9984, -30464), (256, -30464), (10496, -30464), (20736, -30464), (30976, -30464), (-30464, -20224), (-20224, -20224), (-9984, -20224), (256, -20224), (10496, -20224), (20736, -20224), (30976, -20224), (-30464, -9984), (-20224, -9984), (-9984, -9984), (256, -9984), (10496, -9984), (20736, -9984), (30976, -9984), (-30464, 256), (-20224, 256), (-9984, 256), (256, 256), (10496, 256), (20736, 256), (30976, 256), (-30464, 10496), (-20224, 10496), (-9984, 10496), (256, 10496), (10496, 10496), (20736, 10496), (30976, 10496), (-30464, 20736), (-20224, 20736), (-9984, 20736), (256, 20736), (10496, 20736), (20736, 20736), (30976, 20736), (-30464, 30976), (-20224, 30976), (-9984, 30976), (256, 30976), (10496, 30976), (20736, 30976), (30976, 30976)]
mossy palm
The event is themed I guess listen to streamer <@558538966811279400>
What it is streamed
rare gyro
this is the spawn pattern
Weird looking political compass
mossy palm
The event is themed I guess listen to streamer <@558538966811279400>
Where does he stream twitch/youtube?
valid linden
rare gyro
https://twitch.tv/tubbo
valid linden
cursive pollen
lone wedge
is that gb or gbit
cursive pollen
not evena tree
wary junco
Can you even access it without the nether?
rare gyro
fuck me https://sirkillian.gg/i/s7xcoq826deo3sp2.png
Skill isssue 
rare gyro
Gonna wait for wandering trader
rare gyro
lol
cursive pollen
gime a fishing pole
mellow inlet
no
valid linden
we may have allocated too few threads
faint gust
its a bit delayed
spice condor
u gotta collect items
faint gust
either purpur or pufferfish had some block-breaking-at-low-tps patch, that would be nice
amber monolith
i don't really notice any lag tbh
vagrant mason
either purpur or pufferfish had some block-breaking-at-low-tps patch, that would...
That was literally in CraftBukkit before I even started working on it
Like, over 10 years ago
faint gust
well then it got removed at some point
rare gyro
i don't really notice any lag tbh
Some region are doing better than the other (which is the biggest selling point of folia, lag is localized)
vagrant mason
I expanded on it to make it apply to furnaces, mob age, breeding cooldowns, etc and then ported it to Sponge as one of the only contributions (outside of design) to that project
valid linden
The server is handling this better than expected though
Also, we have more server resources to allocate
rare gyro
Yeah the cpu is something available to rent
sullen inlet
it's 6 threads rn correct?
amber monolith
Some region are doing better than the other (which is the biggest selling point ...
If i'm correct, when you have low player count, you can better you paper, if you have more threads and loads of users, it's better to use folia?
sullen inlet
you could double that for sure
valid linden
Still, very impressive
sullen inlet
ye
amber monolith
soon 2b2t can upgrade :p
mellow inlet
Show this again
fervent halo
2b2t already did upgrade two or three times
vagrant mason
If i'm correct, when you have low player count, you can better you paper, if you...
Low player count can benefit from Folia too if you have the cores to spare and they're spread out enough, one player's massive iron farm won't kill the server for everyone else
fervent halo
their 1.19 test server is folia
valid linden
it's coping
rare gyro
2b is most likely going to jump this year yeah
valid linden
not sure if the tps on the dashboard is accurate
amber monolith
2b2t already did upgrade two or three times
didn't knew :p
valid linden
it depends on the scheduling and the lag is localized
valid linden
spawn region
sullen inlet
is th nether off?
valid linden
yes nether is off
amber monolith
Low player count can benefit from Folia too if you have the cores to spare and t...
I will test folia on a rockchip of an orange pi 5 :p, 8 cores, but small arm board
sullen inlet
how would you enter the end then?
vagrant mason
You don't enter the end via the nether?
sullen inlet
how does one open an end portal without blaze rods from the nether?
amber monolith
why did mojang/microsoft never came up with this idea to have a thread per region :p
valid linden
Don't know, but that's not my issue
vagrant mason
Can't you get them sometimes from the wandering trader?
austere peak
no one knows an approximate release folia?
spare linden
Maybe they tweaked chest loot!
rare gyro
no one knows an approximate release folia?
It will be ready when itβs ready!
vagrant mason
If there is no one in the end it won't take much CPU time
It's not locking a thread down, regions are in a thread pool
rare gyro
But a real world test like this shows the strength of the project @austere peak as it already able to handle such event
austere peak
I am completely impressed with the work done
mellow inlet
I am completely impressed with the work done
Π‘Π°ΠΌ Π² Π°Ρ ΡΠ΅
Π Π΅Π²ΠΎΠ»ΡΡΠΈΡ ΠΏΠΎ ΡΡΡΠΈ Π΄Π»Ρ ΡΠ΅ΡΠ²Π΅ΡΠΎΠ² Π²Π°Π½ΠΈΠ»ΡΠ½ΡΡ
austere peak
do you plan to support older versions of folia later, or not?
vagrant mason
Never
austere peak
Π½Π΅ ΡΠΎΠ»ΡΠΊΠΎ Π΄Π»Ρ Π²Π°Π½ΠΈΠ»
valid linden
mellow inlet
Π Π²ΠΎΡ Π°Π½Π°ΡΡ ΠΈΠΈ Π²ΡΡΠΊΠΈΠ΅ ΠΈ ΠΏΡΠΎΡΠΈΠ΅ Ρ ΡΡΡΡΡΠ°ΠΌΠΈ+ ΡΠ°Π½ΠΊΠ°ΠΌΠΈ
ΡΡΠΎ ΠΏΡΡΠΌ ΠΊΠ°ΠΉΡ
valid linden
and of course this is running shen because who am i kidding
mellow inlet
Xmx100G 
austere peak
ΡΡΠΎ ΠΏΡΡΠΌ ΠΊΠ°ΠΉΡ
ΡΡΠΎ Π°Ρ ΡΠ΅Π½Π½ΠΎ, Ρ ΠΏΠΎΡΡΡΠΎΠΈΠ» 4 Π»Π°Π³ ΠΌΠ°ΡΠΈΠ½Ρ ΠΈ Π΄ΡΡΠ³ΠΈΠΌ ΡΠ΅Π³ΠΈΠΎΠ½Π°ΠΌ Π²ΠΎΠΎΠ±ΡΠ΅ ΠΏΠΎΡ ΡΠΉ
mellow inlet
ΡΡΠΎ Π°Ρ
ΡΠ΅Π½Π½ΠΎ, Ρ ΠΏΠΎΡΡΡΠΎΠΈΠ» 4 Π»Π°Π³ ΠΌΠ°ΡΠΈΠ½Ρ ΠΈ Π΄ΡΡΠ³ΠΈΠΌ ΡΠ΅Π³ΠΈΠΎΠ½Π°ΠΌ Π²ΠΎΠΎΠ±ΡΠ΅ ΠΏΠΎΡ
ΡΠΉ
ΠΠ°-Π΄Π°
spare linden
English only thanks
mellow inlet
Da-da
austere peak
English only thanks
okay
fervent halo
english
valid linden
fervent halo
just because you don't type in cyrillic doesn't make it english
mellow inlet
This is english
fervent halo
no
mellow inlet
trust me
spare linden
I mean literally the phrase "this is English" was
mellow inlet
it's slang
hazy roverBOT
(648f366997e40854add6786d) // @austere peak (@dimianas / 598056716059279360) has been warned by @spare linden (71627708521512960)
Reason: English only, as already asked
austere peak
But a real world test like this shows the strength of the project <@456226577798...
do you plan to make folia on the old version in the future?
mellow inlet
do you plan to make folia on the old version in the future?
no
sullen inlet
hold up how did you get the threads named? what app is that?
foggy berry
smh ram memory
spare linden
do you plan to make folia on the old version in the future?
No plan. Waste of time. π
valid linden
htop
sullen inlet
my htop doesn't show the thread names though
austere peak
No plan. Waste of time. π
ok
spare linden
my htop doesn't show the thread names though
Ask nicely
valid linden
We are moving towards the nether region
sullen inlet
rip i died :(
spare linden
mellow inlet
How many players could a regular paper server withstand?
mellow inlet
How many players could a regular paper server withstand?
In a similar situation
lone wedge
how many gbit internet rn?
sullen inlet
me too just without the fiber part
valid linden
fervent halo
how many gbit internet rn?
real skiff
why is it in GibiBytes
fervent halo
5gbps if you want to believe tcpshield
valid linden
surely not
vagrant merlin
Is fire spread on?
fervent halo
tcpshield's number might be more accurate since with prometheus you're scraping on an interval
valid linden
Right that's true
actually no
it's a counter
so accumulative
should be accurate regardless of scrape interval
austere peak
In a similar situation
check dm
valid linden
but the smoothing may mess with it
blazing escarp
Shen.
cursive pollen
how many entities
cursive pollen
jesus
valid linden
chunks
rare gyro
Lol
valid linden
60k entities
sullen inlet
i haven't encountered a single entity yet
rare gyro
Could be spottedleaf in disguise
valid linden
But you know, already an achievement to have 1000 players on this hardware and it hasn't crashed yet
rare gyro
hollow escarp
I hope someone makes a spark π
valid linden
no spark here
vivid trellis
valid linden
but we have graphs running
lost phoenix
jvisualvm
rare gyro
Typical Aussie half naked
cursive pollen
cam put on some clothes god damn
blazing escarp
Ah. Cam.
cursive pollen
jump on it you wont
quaint garden
Cam where are you ?
sullen inlet
9 tps π
rare gyro
if this is anything to go by, shen is doing good
(I know ping is messy, will clean up later) (just making it easy to find later)
sullen inlet
is this system cpu?
valid linden
that should be yes
sullen inlet
then shouldn't you just double or smth the threads?
valid linden
or at least the logical cpu usage
foggy berry
then shouldn't you just double or smth the threads?
can't do that while running
valid linden
then shouldn't you just double or smth the threads?
that's the plan but we're not restarting now
sullen inlet
yeah ig just restart
or was the civ system poorly programmed and doesn't sustain a reboot π€¨
foggy berry
I don't think the teams are persistent so that'd be a bad idea
sullen inlet
haha
valid linden
teams are persistent
foggy berry
ah
valid linden
i just dont want to lose our player count
we'll eventually restart when tubbo has to go
foggy berry
and people would get replaced by others joining, right?
rare gyro
Cubxity will your special regioniser spawning be released as an OSS plugin? For testing Ofcoz!
valid linden
and people would get replaced by others joining, right?
that can happen yes
sullen inlet
restart doesn't take more than a few seconds though right? just kick everyone with the server will be back in 20 seconds and most non afk people will join back. Otherwise new people join
valid linden
Cubxity will your special regioniser spawning be released as an OSS plugin? For ...
not currently, no
rare gyro
Okie
cursive pollen
how can i tell what region im in π
blazing escarp
i just dont want to lose our player count
Next time add a proxy and move everyone into limbo while restarting. π
valid linden
this is using an extremely hacky patch i made
valid linden
Next time add a proxy and move everyone into limbo while restarting. π
Do you want to sponsor another 10Gbps server for me
blazing escarp
No, just look at how BungeeAutoReconnect works.
Magic, no extra server required, just tells the client to wait.
rare gyro
I saw those before. Itβs like Russian black magic
cursive pollen
yeah f3 at the top
i mean what folia region thingy
sullen inlet
oh i don't think you can figure that out rn
valid linden
this is using an extremely hacky patch i made
valid linden
suspicious
night owl
out of curiosity, how did you make htop look that pretty?
vagrant merlin
we're on voice chat
cursive pollen
no bromances allowed
vagrant merlin
leaf wasn't going to do it because he was scared he'd get in trouble haha
blazing escarp
out of curiosity, how did you make htop look that pretty?
F5.
That's not even using advanced/detailed mode.
mellow inlet
How much tps rn?
fervent halo
out of curiosity, how did you make htop look that pretty?
prety sure it's just default debian with tree view & custom thread names on
valid linden
tps is great
winged sage
pretty
valid linden
surprised it hasnt crashed yet
mellow inlet
tps is *great*
Show /tps
vagrant merlin
/teleport kennytv CAMM_
mellow inlet
tps is *great*
I think this is an incorrect indicator of tps
valid linden
valid linden
reports the exact same thing
visual veldt
is the test still open?
valid linden
We should publish this as a world download
sullen inlet
is the test still open?
yes
valid linden
is the test still open?
Yes, but server is constantly full so you have to try and get in
sullen inlet
We should publish this as a world download <:kekwhyper:674093681904713729>
put it on archive.org Kappa
mellow inlet
tps is *great*
btw what is this utility?
valid linden
rare gyro
Smh my head advertising!
spice condor
unifiedmetrics for forge wen officially
visual veldt
may i ask
how much ram does the server have and what's the tps at?
rare gyro
But yeah uwuifiedMetrics is awesome
sullen inlet
it has 100gb and the tps is ~8
valid linden
ram is not an issue here
visual veldt
how many players are on?
rare gyro
1000
blazing escarp
So, em. ZGC when?
sullen inlet
lol
haughty forge
i went afk so i could go to the sauna, where the fuck are my people
valid linden
So, em. ZGC when?
@fervent halo @lost phoenix thoughts?
lost phoenix
shenandoah
mellow inlet
A time bomb
rare gyro
i went afk so i could go to the sauna, where the fuck are my people
Guys sleep only need 899 more to skip
valid linden
STW when
hollow salmon
Will all the graphs be released after the test?
rare gyro
Cubxity will you make a technical writeup
valid linden
Yes
rare gyro
Nice i was about to ask
visual veldt
so is the test going well or is it not going well? im confused
fervent halo
well enough
valid linden
Better than expected
faint gust
kinda getting lag spikes now suddenly
visual veldt
but its only at 8 tps
fervent halo
yes but it's at 1000 players
rare gyro
Way better than expected @visual veldt
valid linden
Keep in mind this is a consumer CPU
rare gyro
1000 in any paper fork will give you sub 5 tps @visual veldt 
mellow inlet
Keep in mind this is a consumer CPU
Consumer<CPU> ?
fervent halo
1000 on any paper fork will give you the spigot watchdog
sullen inlet
Consumer<CPU> ?
BiConsumer<CPU, Ram> ofc
visual veldt
servers like hypixel tho have thousands on regularly though i think, or am i wrong? i've never actually counted individual lobbies
fervent halo
those are across thousands of servers
mellow inlet
servers like hypixel tho have thousands on regularly though i think, or am i wro...
Proxy
fervent halo
this is a single server
sullen inlet
it could run a bit better though the io threads area lacking
rare gyro
servers like hypixel tho have thousands on regularly though i think, or am i wro...
they are just individual thousands of small servers. Folia is different.
mossy geyser
is the server on ?
valid linden
Yes
echo wagon
they are just individual thousands of small servers. Folia is different.
Spread over hundreds of machines too
visual veldt
ya ik but i meant dont those get thousands of players too? they at least get hundreds
valid linden
This is on a single process, single world, single server
rare gyro
Spread over hundreds of machines too
yeah so in the future hopefully we get folias in multiple servers! Imagine!
echo wagon
MultiFolia
mossy geyser
sad
sullen inlet
kubernetes cluster
foggy berry
multipaper
valid linden
we should kill some chickens
sullen inlet
why are there so many falling blocks
vivid trellis
sand
neon raft
MultiFolia? For what benefit? So you can get more threads?
sullen inlet
ig some people must be trying to lag out the server then right? i don't see where 1685 sand is falling right in this moment
fervent halo
MultiFolia? For what benefit? So you can get more threads?
horizontal scaling vs vertical scaling
rare gyro
@lost phoenix ryrtmoyu
neon raft
horizontal scaling vs vertical scaling
Well I guess so. I really think Multipaper had a huge potential but it wasn't maintained.
fervent halo
multipaper was a disaster
valid linden
We need an eval command
sullen inlet
what was multipaper?
valid linden
neon raft
True. I kept waiting and waiting for that development only to find out it was abandoned -..-
foggy berry
We need an eval command
could do that with nashorn
valid linden
Remember WorldQL?
foggy berry
or /reload
valid linden
I think /reload is gone in folia
mossy geyser
i am in finally
valid linden
nvm it isnt
sullen inlet
it just doesn't work lol
mossy geyser
how is the server going
valid linden
neon raft
Remember WorldQL?
Same case :p
rare gyro
Trial ruines 
deep salmon
pls fix leaf https://i.imgur.com/3JP9kAT.png
valid linden
Well yes, WorldQL was also a disaster
neon raft
Thanks for sharing
sullen inlet
lol
hollow salmon
Is it possible to export data from UnifiedMetrics?
valid linden
Yes
mossy geyser
Doesn't seem too well lol
echo wagon
For 1000 players this is pretty incredible if you ask me
neon raft
Do you think this would perform better with AMD epyc?
sullen inlet
oh
neon raft
Also, why is it at 600% max. Does it mean that it's only using 6cores or threads?
mossy geyser
server closed
sullen inlet
:(
dark mist
:'(
rare gyro
haughty forge
man my stone
brisk garden
F
valid linden
who did that
cursive pollen
F
dark mist
WHO DID THAT ??
cursive pollen
i blame michael
vagrant merlin
wet tree
F
rare gyro
hacker brought down server 
hollow salmon
Is this out of the box? Or is it an addon that works with Folia?
faint gust
time to raise the thread counts
foggy berry
welp, you can throw up your threads now haha
mellow inlet
:D
neon raft
Add more threads?
rare gyro
good luck saving worlds
sullen inlet
oh boy
opaque gust
Threads 
rare gyro
server is saving chunks rn
dark mist
xd
valid linden
We are saving chunks
neon raft
How many thread does the server have recently?
valid linden
Already done
spare narwhal
We are saving chunks
how many of them are there?
rose galleon
the ssd π«‘
sullen inlet
Already done
unifiedmetrics could use some io stats right?
mossy geyser
how large a region could be ?
sullen inlet
huh i could ping it once
mellow inlet
unreachable :C
sullen inlet
obviously
vagrant merlin
unreachable :C
You can reach by sponsoring PaperMC on Open Collective or by server boosting! :D
mellow inlet
You can reach by sponsoring PaperMC on Open Collective or by server boosting! :D
I haven't discord nitro
sullen inlet
or sponsor more than 1$!
haughty forge
i am graciously providing the papermc project with 1 dollar every month
mellow inlet
ok
vagrant merlin
<@&748618676189528155>
wet tree
:x
willow portal
πΏ
vivid trellis
hazy roverBOT
neon raft
Rip
vagrant merlin
very hot Noah
sullen inlet
it's thinking
vagrant merlin
very hot use of sentinel
foggy berry
got ninja'd by micahel
haughty forge
sentinel is the thinker
sullen inlet
it's thinking
sour pulsar
lol
vagrant merlin
Slash commands are so bad