#folia-testing-2
faint gust
foggy berry
it does that when someone is already banned
faint gust
its a bit slow
neon raft
Wish everyone is like sentinel đ
mellow inlet
Same as current test server
cerulean hare
or he has antiban xd
faint gust
Don't blame the bot for thinking a bit slow
vestal quest
oh
sullen inlet
Don't blame the bot for thinking a bit slow
bot running at 8 tps rn frfr
i love how it's still thinking lol
vague pasture
That's what happens when it's being ran on windows 98
civic bronze
How do I join the server it's just saying disconnected
sullen inlet
you wait until it's online
civic bronze
oh i didn't know it was offline
spare narwhal
started working and back offline
dark mist
Why ? :'(
deep salmon
chill, leaf is patching the server
ionic dagger
so the tests have already started a moment ago?
spare narwhal
chill, leaf is patching the server
yay, + performance on already server that could handle easily 1000 players (i understand that it's a bug fix)
deep salmon
"easily"
haughty forge
10tps
spare narwhal
well, relatively easily
sullen inlet
yeah it was pretty easy
dark mist
Easy
sullen inlet
just took a good server software
dark mist
Really easy
rare gyro
just launch it 
spare narwhal
not like a vanilla jar XD
ionic dagger
test targeting ~1,000 players
Without ping?
spare narwhal
would it have at least 0.001 tps if it was 1000 players on simple vanilla jar?
dark mist
java -jar folia.jar
deep salmon
> test targeting ~1,000 players
Without ping? <:kekw:937012080291250186>
getting 1000 players was easy
its a event by some streamer
ionic dagger
oh
dark mist
java -Xms100G -Xmx100G -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1NewSizePercent=30 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=8M -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -Daikars.new.flags=true -jar folia.jar --nogui
Easy to launch you see
vestal quest
would it have at least 0.001 tps if it was 1000 players on simple vanilla jar?
it will crash đŚ
sullen inlet
must be a small server if 10gb only
ionic dagger
its a event by some streamer
Is this streamer live right now? Can you send me a link to the stream?
sullen inlet
Is this streamer live right now? Can you send me a link to the stream?
stream just ended
ionic dagger
:/
foggy berry
it will crash đŚ
would be interesting to see what happens if we only patched out the hang detection
pure vanilla otherwise
hollow salmon
Are these graphs stock in UnifiedMetrics or an addon?
vestal quest
would be interesting to see what happens if we only patched out the hang detecti...
endless stuck or out of memory ? :/
valid linden
SERVER BACK UP
jolly summit
Mod aboos https://i.imgur.com/4lm59x8.png
wet tree
new link ?
valid linden
Sooner or later
wet tree
thank
fervent halo
you should never give michael op
it's coping hard though
actually rock solid with hard difficulty entities spawning
valid linden
Now the funny thing is to comb through the logs and document this later on
mossy geyser
i got a netherite hoe
stone garden
everyone did
hollow salmon
Are these graphs stock in UnifiedMetrics or an addon?
cerulean hare
Every time I use Buried Treasure Map from drowned ocean ship chest it's get converted to basic Map with ocean printed where I'm are
It's intended?
harsh timber
I assume they disabled them because these maps suck for performance
valid linden
Are these graphs stock in UnifiedMetrics or an addon?
Custom-made for folia use
half blaze
Custom-made for folia use
cpu usage is the whole system or folia allocated
and also this test is on a single 7950X3D?
hollow salmon
Custom-made for folia use
Ah, will it be released?
valid linden
Later on
valid linden
and also this test is on a single 7950X3D?
Yes
valid linden
cpu usage is the whole system or folia allocated
CPU Usage is whole system
vague pasture
or Copy-paste
stone garden
that was in << 1s
valid linden
stone garden
well
vague pasture
I mean, I could 4+ ctrl-V+enter in a second
stone garden
this absolutely didnt work as advertised for the event lol
fervent halo
the event is gonna need revisiting for sure lmfao
valid linden
That's up to tubbo
fervent halo
but folia test was fucking solid
mossy geyser
what's the player count rn
stone garden
seems that player location gets reset on every logout tho?
is that intended?
or at least got reset on both of my logouts so far
fervent halo
yeah should disable that for the next event
stone garden
well it sure makes it even more impossible to reach other teams
but the whole deathmatch doesnt really work if teams are 50k blocks away unless the event is gonna run for like 2 days with shrinking worldborder
valid linden
I disabled forced spawnpoints for now
vagrant mason
Yeah deathmatch is not a good fit for Folia
You want players to only come close to each other occasionally
stone garden
at which point of players being less spread out would folia loose its advantage?
valid linden
When regions become big and when they merge a lot
vagrant mason
at which point of players being less spread out would folia loose its advantage?
If you can't get 48 chunks of distance between players they're going to be in the same region
So if I'm 20 chunks from you, you're 20 chunks from Cubxity, and he's 20 chunks from Michael we're all in the same region
mellow inlet
When regions become big and when they merge a lot
20 tps now?
valid linden
Why did chat signing break
stone garden
well
half valley
nobody had a pen
stone garden
now anyone that was left in the event is definetly out via the kick
valid linden
It's back now btw
crude gull
somebody sent an unsigned/invalid message from a modified client which kicks all players
valid linden
That sounds bad
mellow inlet
i am cheater btw. Ban me
stone garden
wurst
lusty bay
so uh i got out from that kick
stone garden
sour pulsar
worse than meteor
haughty forge
cringe mate
vagrant merlin
i am cheater btw. Ban me
literally no one cares
mellow inlet
That's good
sour pulsar
why not using meteorđĄ
crude gull
That sounds bad
indeed, no chat in the future I guess, or no chat signing
or stop the invalid message from being sent to all other players with a paper patch, maybe?
valid linden
Well, that shouldn't be happening in the first place
crude gull
don't have the code in front of me, so can't tell
mossy geyser
white spear
don't have the code in front of me, so can't tell
Wait is this event still going on?
bright sky
yes
valid linden
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/983042002872578122/1120054777766740049/pov_servers_open.mp4 stolen from innit tester discord
white spear
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/983042002872578122/1120054777766740049/po...
Ah cool! How many players are on?
real skiff
sat there for like an hour didnt it?
white spear
500 is still impressive
mellow inlet
death issue
real skiff
got the green top
mellow inlet
https://i.imgur.com/cjvyDft.png
say coords pls
cursive pollen
literally no one cares
can you believe this guy is in my civ đ
like come onnnn
mellow inlet
can you believe this guy is in my civ đ
đ
wary junco
mellow inlet
hi
mellow inlet
xd
cursive pollen
leave me alone xd
mellow inlet
yes
real skiff
hmmm. Leaf sounds like bob ross
mellow inlet
i can boat fly
cursive pollen
ok take off
mellow inlet
btw
mellow inlet
AGHAHAHAHAHA
haughty forge
crash the server please
cursive pollen
michael stole my ship
hoary dock
i am dying on spawn
cursive pollen
@fervent halo cant catch us https://sirkillian.gg/i/iqxdb750he42jc3m.png
hoary dock
lovely world https://i.imgur.com/zl2NZhP.png
haughty forge
lovely weather innit
real skiff
indeed, no chat in the future I guess, or no chat signing
or stop the invalid m...
do you know of a client that supports that?
done some googling and seems accurate
mellow inlet
<@215448923681062913> cant catch us https://sirkillian.gg/i/iqxdb750he42jc3m.png
gimme boat
cursive pollen
gimme boat
can this go faster xd
mellow inlet
No)
cursive pollen
man
haughty forge
it can surely
cursive pollen
weak hack
also @vagrant merlin https://sirkillian.gg/i/2u4au8znocej6uiw.png skill issue
haughty forge
that was a good idea
crude gull
do you know of a client that supports that?
no I do not & yes it is accurate
cursive pollen
no, my boat
lone lark
@fervent halo
fervent halo
repost
real skiff
is that the cat i heard randomly in vc earlier
valid linden
Ok time to write a report
@rare gyro @fervent halo @lost phoenix who wants to hop on notion (now or later is fine)
rare gyro
Cubxity.moe site when @valid linden
cursive pollen
when i see "moe" i can only think of one thing
rare gyro
I am outdoor. Get Michael and rat is though
cursive pollen
real skiff
dad car
hoary dock
hoary dock
who can I ping to clear my effects
@austere peak
@vivid trellis i lost ur goat horn đŚ
vivid trellis
i hat e you
hoary dock
someone killed me
not my fault
someone tp me to spawn
some prick keeps spawn killing me
sour pulsar
is dragon be killed?
river dagger
i am cheater btw. Ban me
Wurst
mellow inlet
Wurst<:kekw:674093681963302933>
worst?
stone garden
smh
if only there was any way for people to move between civs
literally 50k blocks away and get teleported back on every death or logout
white spear
What plugins does this test server have?
haughty forge
white spear
Ah what does FoliaCivilizations do?
hoary dock
tp eveyrone 500k blcosk away
white spear
tp eveyrone 500k blcosk away
Ha
haughty forge
it civilizes folia
slate ferry
what's the player record so far?
deep salmon
The limit was 1k and that was easily reached
molten blade
intentional game design is on a killing spree
white spear
In theory folia should be able to support an unlimited amount of players with the right hardware, right?
deep salmon
If you have unlimited hardware, sure
Including network cards, lol
We peaked at 5gbps
ember mason
What hardware was used for this test, specifically
crude gull
there is no "unlimited" hardware, so no. if folia supports numa at some point, the max cores available on a single machine currently would be 512.
deep salmon
What hardware was used for this test, specifically
7950x3d and a 10g nic
ember mason
Wow, nice
deep salmon
So "consumer" hardware, no crazy epyk
cerulean hare
7950x3d and a 10g nic
wow CPU that can burn out xd
vagrant mason
That was an ASUS bug, wasn't it?
valid linden
is grafana snapshot smoking something
olive creek
faint gust
That was an ASUS bug, wasn't it?
the burn out itself yes, but on other boards it would also reach questionable temperatures and voltages
crude gull
That was an ASUS bug, wasn't it?
asus got cought, most vendors overvolted the chips to squezze more performance. but I don't think this is the case for server boards, as server borads only run spec ddr5 speeds and the overvolt is used for more IMC stability at high frequencies.
valid linden
Minecraft Grafana snapshot from the start of the event to the end (before @fervent halo starts admin abusing) https://snapshots.raintank.io/dashboard/snapshot/BKfFdyCQ7hEAB6KcF47MYGPzM7oOkN7d
valid linden
Minecraft Grafana snapshot from the start of the event to the end (before <@2154...
we had a few gc pauses actually
@lost phoenix do you have jmx screenshots
blazing escarp
Imagine not using ZGC. 
valid linden
@fervent halo please dont abuse players too hard, i pinged tom's sub discord with 30k members to play it like an smp if they wanted to
fervent halo
yeah i'm not teleporting anyone lmao
valid linden
ill leave now, have fun
fervent halo
not touching it after this either
valid linden
the server will probably be on for a few days
tepid chasm
What was the player peak btw?
bright sky
1000
tepid chasm
Nice
rare gyro
Itâs not just a peak. It stays there for a good hour or two 
slate ferry
Itâs not just a peak. It stays there for a good hour or two <a:foliapray:1090364...
how high was the system util. on this player count?
bright sky
see the most recent pinned message
copper canopy
Does the server use any plugins or not?
Also is the world/worlds modified/custom generated?
valid linden
The world is vanilla, generated using chunky
Plugins used: Chunky, UnifiedMetrics, FoliaTestUtils (custom), FoliaCivilizations (custom)
rare gyro
^ world gen is vanilla
slate ferry
So, do I understand correctly that only about half of the CPU was consumed by 1k players?
rare gyro
âCorrectâ but in the cpu sense itâs already pretty heavily loaded for a content 50% util rate.
slate ferry
Do you guys plan on doing larger tests?
haughty forge
wasnt a paper hosted test
slate ferry
oh
weary jetty
1000 players is pretty large though
copper canopy
^ world gen is vanilla
Alright, I tried out the server and it was mostly desert and badlands for like 500/1000 blocks I walked. I have not seen this type of biome generation before, where most of it is desert.
slate ferry
1000 players is pretty large though
It is, but apparently there were more players wanting to join in
rare gyro
Alright, I tried out the server and it was mostly desert and badlands for like 5...
Large biome exist now and that could be normal tbh.
See this as a good example. (I recently made an event map) https://map.eternity.community/
They can get up to 2000 blocks and itâs still normal lol
You just got unlucky
copper canopy
Large biome exist now and that could be normal tbh.
Yeah not used to the new biome generation. Make it harder to survive if you end up in the wrong biome đ
austere peak
How do you get Folia?
weary jetty
How do you get Folia?
You have to build it yourself.
idle swallowBOT
â ď¸ Please do not share any links to builds of Folia at this time. We are intentionally not providing easy to find/obtain downloads right now - when the time is right, everything will be available through official PaperMC distributions.
weary jetty
Follow the instructions on the Paper repo.
austere peak
Link
weary jetty
If you don't know how to build it then you probably shouldn't.
weary jetty
@white spear Build instructions are provided. If someone needs to be walked through it then they shouldnât be building it. Same reason we arenât providing pre-built jars.
white spear
Whatâs the server address for the test server?
opal fern
Check the pins.
white spear
The pin just says this, but I think it use to say something different
Is this the right one? It just has 32/1001 on it
opal fern
Yes, that's the right one.
The test was this morning. They are keeping the server up for a bit.
white spear
The test was this morning. They are keeping the server up for a bit.
Ah thatâs nice (:
is it just me or is the test server extremely laggy even with 24 players?
spare linden
The pin just says this, but I think it use to say something different
I don't even get anything from it anymore, just the link. Weird.
novel cobalt
lol its so laggy just joined server for first time
lol mobs frozen and chunks not loading
white spear
Hahahahah
novel cobalt
Hahahahah
32 render distance goes a long way
also I get disconnected every couple minutes for reason disconnected
white spear
also I get disconnected every couple minutes for reason disconnected
Same
rare gyro
Server is likely not in a stable stat after the event
novel cobalt
Clearly
fervent halo
weird keepalive timeout stuff
rare gyro
@fervent halo should just close it tbh lol
fervent halo
no
novel cobalt
reset it?
fervent halo
no
fervent halo
no
rare gyro
Was leaf trying to catch some weird behavior?
novel cobalt
blame leaf or michael
rare gyro
TRUE
novel cobalt
I randomly turned into a ghost
white spear
If I may ask, What is the goal in not restarting it or anything? Is it to study what is going on and try fixing it so it wonât occur again?
fervent halo
yes
mint seal
So what was learned from this test?
sturdy flicker
the gang is doing a writeup of findings I don't think there's any complete analysis yet
weary jetty
Also be aware that while we streamed the test it wasnât an official Paper test. We made a channel here so we could check it out and Leaf could try to gain some more info from a larger test.
So no idea when theyâre gonna publish info (or if they even are?)
mint seal
Hopefully cubxity will. There seems to be some things that can be learned from a large scale test like this.
weary jetty
Could be. Not sure what Leaf learned but probably something.
Folia is still new and there arenât a lot of servers running a bunch of players in general, so the more data the better it helps to find bugs and improve things.
high orchid
Hopefully cubxity will. There seems to be some things that can be learned from a...
Blog post coming soon!
elfin perch
exotic snow
what this be
novel cobalt
what this be
Folia testing channel for the server event
valid linden
If anyone who participated in the test has any screenshots, please send them here!
cerulean hare
novel cobalt
lol
cerulean hare
I still don't believe there are ~900 players at one block in this screenshot
hoary dock
spice condor
this pattern
cerulean hare
Hmm, that's why I didn't believe it :D
I assumed that there were several spawn points, but didn't know exactly how many and where
And I couldn't find any other spawn point lol
half valley
Where'd you guys get/have the 7950 with a 10gb nic? Datacenter or provisioned somewhere else?
white ingot
novel cobalt
ship in ice
short halo
valid linden
yes
serene holly
rare gyro
Guys keep the pictures you took coming! So Cubxity can have a good set of images to work on! Chance for your screenshot to be featured!!!
white spear
The game isnât lagging anymore, but the chat doesnât work lol
Also it feels like a little community is forming on the test server despite that đ
weary jetty
Chat has been disabled from the beginning
Bad idea having chat enabled on a 1000 person test
white spear
Bad idea having chat enabled on a 1000 person test
Hahahahha thatâs fair
austere peak
When is the next test
weary jetty
No idea.
No current plans for a Paper test. This one was unofficial so not sure if they're going to do another one.
primal pendant
looks nice
grizzled carbon
If anyone who participated in the test has any screenshots, please send them her...
grizzled carbon
A base made entirely out of wood wasn't the best of decisions (Post event/present day picture)
silk granite
Imho it would be nice to have a Papercraft server
white spear
Imho it would be nice to have a Papercraft server
Lol
It is surprising to see how many people are still playing in the test server. Itâs like a little community has formed.
weary jetty
Yeah that happens after these things. Unfortunately they tend to peter out after a while.
We ran the paper test server for a long time. No one played it.
kindred hornet
Hello! I found this initiative of the Folia project very interesting
Is there a possibility that I can test it?
kindred hornet
Tanks!! I hadn't seen it, I'll take a look
idle swallowBOT
â ď¸ Please do not share any links to builds of Folia at this time. We are intentionally not providing easy to find/obtain downloads right now - when the time is right, everything will be available through official PaperMC distributions.
night owl
are there any stats on network utilization?
wondering how much bandwidth it takes to serve for 1k people
noble sable
alot
deep salmon
5gbps peak
haughty forge
a 10gbit network is probably the way to go
sage citrus
I wonder how many packets per second were sent/received at the peak
mild dove
5gbps??
Currenly have 11.5k players online on 1.16.5 using only 3gbps. (300 mbit/s per proxy). view distance 7, random blocks anti xray
deep salmon
It peaked crazy when people first were allowed to move
haughty forge
thats different to seeing 4 chunks total
deep salmon
Collision kicked in, chunk loading started, etc
thorny prawn
that's a lot damn
haughty forge
my server with 10 players 
valid linden
are there any stats on network utilization?
Yes
fervent halo
5gbps??
Currenly have 11.5k players online on 1.16.5 using only 3gbps. (300 mbit...
1.16.5 is a pretty substantial difference due to the chunk/world size
not to mention how you spread players around, how many entities nearby etc
you definitely can't have 11.5k concurrent players online with 1.20 and sane settings at 3gbps, that's for sure, 6gbps maybe
idle swallowBOT
'ETA' means 'Estimated Time of Arrival'!
jolly shuttle
lol
mossy nest
Regular occurence when the server is catching up after lag
thick bronze
forest remnant
You can always contribute.
valid linden
Full technical writeup: https://cubxity.dev/blog/folia-test-june-2023
