#folia-help | PaperMC | Page 10

muted parrot Jun 27, 2023, 8:18 AM

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is it normal to just have "Sentinel is thinking..." after I send a modmail?

fair merlin Jun 27, 2023, 8:19 AM

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Haha Sentinel is kinda new and sometimes a little grumpy

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But we did get the modmail!

muted parrot Jun 27, 2023, 8:21 AM

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Awesome, thanks for the confirmation. Y'all have a great day!

vagrant arch Jun 27, 2023, 11:12 AM

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Hello everyone, what's AsyncPlayerChatEvent in Folia?

arctic tapir Jun 27, 2023, 11:19 AM

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that

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should use AsyncChatEvent though

vagrant arch Jun 27, 2023, 11:21 AM

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But it's deprecated

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At least it's marked like that

arctic tapir Jun 27, 2023, 11:22 AM

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AsyncChatEvent isn’t

vagrant arch Jun 27, 2023, 11:23 AM

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Oh, I read it as AsyncPlayerChatEvent

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AsyncChatEvent works, thanks

haughty gale Jun 27, 2023, 6:40 PM

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[13:15:37 WARN]: Exception in thread "Timer-0" java.lang.UnsupportedOperationException
[13:15:37 WARN]:        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_20_R1.scheduler.CraftScheduler.handle(CraftScheduler.java:533)
[13:15:37 WARN]:        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_20_R1.scheduler.CraftScheduler.runTaskTimer(CraftScheduler.java:233
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[13:15:37 WARN]:        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_20_R1.scheduler.CraftScheduler.runTaskTimer(CraftScheduler.java:209
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[13:15:37 WARN]:        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_20_R1.scheduler.CraftScheduler.runTaskLater(CraftScheduler.java:173
)
[13:15:37 WARN]:        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_20_R1.scheduler.CraftScheduler.runTask(CraftScheduler.java:142)
[13:15:37 WARN]:        at ProtocolLib.jar//com.comphenix.protocol.metrics.Metrics$1.run(Metrics.java:154)
[13:15:37 WARN]:        at java.base/java.util.TimerThread.mainLoop(Timer.java:566)
[13:15:37 WARN]:        at java.base/java.util.TimerThread.run(Timer.java:516)

is it normal to randomly see this?

viral stone Jun 27, 2023, 6:40 PM

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well, no

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but that's an issue with protocollib

haughty gale Jun 27, 2023, 6:41 PM

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ok

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ty

vernal wyvern Jun 27, 2023, 8:37 PM

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how i increase this?

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Utilisation: 47.8% / 400.0%

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my startup flags java -Xms65536M -Xmx65536M -XX:ConcGCThreads=16 --add-modules=jdk.incubator.vector -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -Daikars.new.flags=true -XX:G1NewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=50 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=16M -XX:G1ReservePercent=15 -Dterminal.jline=false -Dterminal.ansi=true -jar folia-paperclip-1.19.4-R0.1-SNAPSHOT-mojmap.jar

wicked mantle Jun 27, 2023, 8:46 PM

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Looks fine to me. 400% means you have 4 region threads.

vernal wyvern Jun 27, 2023, 8:51 PM

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like

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400% per region?

wicked mantle Jun 27, 2023, 8:52 PM

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No

ocean geyser Jun 27, 2023, 8:52 PM

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Use ZGC and -server?

vernal wyvern Jun 27, 2023, 8:52 PM

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java -Xms65536M -Xmx65536M -XX:ConcGCThreads=3 -XX:ParallelGCThreads=10 --add-modules=jdk.incubator.vector -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -Daikars.new.flags=true -XX:G1NewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=50 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=16M -XX:G1ReservePercent=15 -Dterminal.jline=false -Dterminal.ansi=true -jar {{SERVER_JARFILE}}

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is this good?

wicked mantle Jun 27, 2023, 8:53 PM

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shrug

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try it and see

vernal wyvern Jun 27, 2023, 8:55 PM

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My CPU is Ryzen 9 7950X

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Specs : Ryzen 9 7950X , 128GB
Startup (Pterodactyl) : java -Xms65536M -Xmx65536M -XX:ConcGCThreads=3 -XX:ParallelGCThreads=10 --add-modules=jdk.incubator.vector -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -Daikars.new.flags=true -XX:G1NewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=50 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=16M -XX:G1ReservePercent=15 -Dterminal.jline=false -Dterminal.ansi=true -jar folia-paperclip-1.19.4-R0.1-SNAPSHOT-mojmap.jar
Java: 17 Version : 1.19.4
threaded-regions: (paper-global.yml)
threads: 32
netty-threads: 10 (spigot.yml)
Pterodactyl :

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should be good for anarchy with like 300-400 players?

wicked mantle Jun 27, 2023, 9:08 PM

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shrug

fair merlin Jun 27, 2023, 9:30 PM

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vernal wyvern should be good for anarchy with like 300-400 players?

Gonna depend a lot on plugins and stuff. No one's tested that kind of thing longterm on that CPU (as far as we know) so only way to know is to try it.

vernal wyvern Jun 27, 2023, 9:31 PM

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ok i gonnna ads my folia server on tiktok hehe

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 2:07 AM

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help.

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:33 AM

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vernal wyvern

Ha

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 2:33 AM

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wait

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pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:34 AM

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What?

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 2:34 AM

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what i should set network level?

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network_compression_threshold: -1

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On my proxy

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and folia

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i put -1

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:34 AM

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Not my expertise

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 2:35 AM

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That's not going to help you

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You have too many people in that region or too many farms

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Probably both

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Spread players out more

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:36 AM

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Dang

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 2:36 AM

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2/3 of your players are in a single region

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:36 AM

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Lol

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:38 AM

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vernal wyvern

Did you get all your players from TikTok?

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 2:38 AM

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Yes!

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:39 AM

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Wow that’s actually pretty impressive

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Um how long did it take you?

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 2:39 AM

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Your players need to be more anti-social

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:39 AM

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finite hinge Your players need to be more anti-social

Hahahhahahha

fair merlin Jun 28, 2023, 2:39 AM

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pseudo ibex Um how long did it take you?

Would be good to move this convo to #general

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:39 AM

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fair merlin Would be good to move this convo to <#555469074080202765>

That’s fair

fair merlin Jun 28, 2023, 2:39 AM

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vernal wyvern

Like Amaranth said, if you have most people in such a small area you might want to use Paper instead of Folia.

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It's designed for people to be spread out.

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 2:40 AM

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very spread out

fair merlin Jun 28, 2023, 2:40 AM

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Recommend reading the FAQs and pins in here and stuff. It's still very under development.

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So stuff might be crashy crashy.

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:40 AM

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finite hinge _very_ spread out

Well how spread out is very spread out?

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 2:40 AM

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Like, far enough people don't feel like walking to see their closest neighbor

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More than 768 blocks away from the nearest player

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:40 AM

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finite hinge More than 768 blocks away from the nearest player

Wow!

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I thought it was based on the view distance, and render distance which would determine if the regions would group up right?

fair merlin Jun 28, 2023, 2:41 AM

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Not really

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:41 AM

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fair merlin Not really

😗

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 2:41 AM

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You don't need every player in their own region but if multiple are in one region you need to otherwise spread them out even more otherwise you risk them all cascading into a single region

livid crag Jun 28, 2023, 2:41 AM

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Not you also have to take into account of object/entity with high velocity that travel very fast, so you cant just base everything off VD

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 2:42 AM

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It's sort of based on the view distance but when you put in how chunk tickets work, Folia's 16x16 (chunk) region sections, and the need for a buffer section you quickly get up to very large numbers

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And it's basically impossible to set a view distance that makes it smaller than that and not likely you'll set one that makes it larger than that

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iirc you'd need a view distance of like 27 to make it more than 768 blocks

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Ah, not that high, more than 19 will make it even larger

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:44 AM

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Ok, here’s an idea. What if I pulled a minehut, and got a plugin to generate a new spawn for players when the spawn has 20 players in it each, and automatically delete them when there is less players. Would that be a bad idea and could this be more efficient than having one spawn?

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Is this a stupid idea?

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 2:45 AM

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Sure, if you can keep people in small clusters that are very spread out from each other (or in different worlds from each other, although loading worlds is... fun) that should work

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Just make sure you spread them out a lot

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If you spawn 20 people together they'll probably spread over a few thousand radius from their spawn point

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Maybe not permanently but for their mob farms or to go caving

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 2:47 AM

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kida

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better than old one

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:47 AM

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finite hinge Sure, if you can keep people in small clusters that are very spread out from eac...

Hahah yea I see. I am currently using that MoreFoWorlds plugin I shared a while back to generate worlds. Hahah I’m just waiting on the PR https://github.com/PaperMC/Folia/pull/97 so I can attach worlds to each other.

GitHub

Fix PlayerTeleportEvent not being triggered. by yeazzz3x2c1 · Pull ...

In the Folia, the PlayerTeleportEvent is not triggered when entity.teleportAsync is called. This patch reinstates the triggering of PlayerTeleportEvent.

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By the way, is there anything wrong with this PR? It seems to be in limbo.

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 2:49 AM

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Folia only has one developer and he isn't consistently active, at least not where I've seen

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:50 AM

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finite hinge Folia only has one developer and he isn't consistently active, at least not wher...

If I may ask, why is that? Is it because it’s considered like a “pet / personal project ?”

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Or am I wrong about that?

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 2:51 AM

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I'm not sure how many people exist who are both capable of working on Folia and are interested in working on it

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It still feels a bit like tilting at windmills even after seeing it actually work

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:52 AM

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finite hinge It still feels a bit like tilting at windmills even after seeing it actually wor...

Can you elaborate?

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 2:52 AM

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Hmm, maybe not the right idiom

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:52 AM

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Hahahahhahahahha

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 2:53 AM

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I'm still not really convinced this project is possible 😛

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:53 AM

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Hahahahah really??

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 2:53 AM

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And personally I just don't work on Minecraft stuff anymore

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:53 AM

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😗

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😰

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:53 AM

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finite hinge And personally I just don't work on Minecraft stuff anymore

Oh? Why did you stop?

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 2:53 AM

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A cease and desist from Mojang's fancy law firm based out of London

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:54 AM

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finite hinge A cease and desist from Mojang's fancy law firm based out of London

May I ask what happened, or are you unable because of NDA?

livid crag Jun 28, 2023, 2:55 AM

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Amaranth is one of the OG who made Craftbukkit.. the fundation of spigot/paper

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:55 AM

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livid crag Amaranth is one of the OG who made Craftbukkit.. the fundation of spigot/paper

That’s why I’m surprised that you got a cease and desist from Mojang

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 2:55 AM

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I tried to sell them the rights to my work on CraftBukkit since they were interested in continuing the project 😄

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That was their response

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:56 AM

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finite hinge I tried to sell them the rights to my work on CraftBukkit since they were intere...

Am I able to ask who was interested? Was it the CraftBukkit team themselves or an outside entity?

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 2:57 AM

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No no, we quit, Mojang said they owned it and would keep it going, DMCA happened, I sent Mojang the offer

fierce ember Jun 28, 2023, 2:57 AM

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vernal wyvern kida

is this spark?

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 2:58 AM

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no

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folia tps

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:58 AM

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finite hinge No no, we quit, Mojang said they owned it and would keep it going, DMCA happened...

So like what happened to your work lol?

fierce ember Jun 28, 2023, 2:58 AM

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o

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 2:58 AM

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You're using it right now 😛

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:58 AM

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finite hinge You're using it right now 😛

Hahahhaha letsss gooo!

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 2:58 AM

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Although between the time passed and Leaf I'm not sure how much is still in there

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That's why paperclip exists, to avoid me suing anyone 😉

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 2:59 AM

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finite hinge That's why paperclip exists, to avoid me suing anyone 😉

Hahahahhahahah ayo?

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Can you elaborate?

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📈📉📈📉📈📉

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 3:00 AM

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Shipping any of the original Bukkit/CraftBukkit code with Mojang code is a GPL violation

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We didn't care when we were working on it so only Mojang was a risk, then Mojang said they owned the project and were taking it over so we became the risk

tranquil epoch Jun 28, 2023, 3:01 AM

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what claim did they have to the project anyways

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 3:01 AM

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They bought it from Curse

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Who apparently bought it from Dinnerbone

tranquil epoch Jun 28, 2023, 3:01 AM

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yeah I thought so

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one of their recruiters told me a year or so ago that they have "never" acquired code from any modders taken into their team before

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knew it was bs

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 3:03 AM

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afaik the 4 who were hired by Mojang originally had some deal with Curse and it was a bit of an aquihire

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 3:04 AM

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finite hinge afaik the 4 who were hired by Mojang originally had some deal with Curse and it ...

What’s an Aquihire?

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 3:05 AM

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Where you buy a company for the developers rather than for anything the company does

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It wasn't outright one because they didn't buy Curse, dunno if they spun the Bukkit stuff off into a separate company to actually sell it to Mojang or just did the asset transfer separate from hiring the developers

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acquihire, I missed the c

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 3:10 AM

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tranquil epoch knew it was bs

Hahah I still have so many questions. Like why would they lie about that?

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 3:10 AM

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Technically they didn't buy it from the modder 😛

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And it didn't go well for them

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 3:11 AM

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finite hinge And it didn't go well for them

Why’s that?

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 3:12 AM

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Bukkit was useless for the vanilla server and they couldn't use it outright due to GPL since they didn't own all of it

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 3:12 AM

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Oh that seems to be a simple explanation.

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How interesting

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 3:13 AM

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And when they made it public they owned it they were made to look really bad and the whole project exploded

tranquil epoch Jun 28, 2023, 3:14 AM

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yeah I mean secretly owning the project is pretty pepega

blazing bough Jun 28, 2023, 3:22 AM

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All of this is fascinating to me.

pseudo ibex Jun 28, 2023, 3:22 AM

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Hahhaha I know right! I would watch a YouTube video on this lol.

livid crag Jun 28, 2023, 3:32 AM

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I've always love the grandpa Amaranth storytime foliapray

haughty gale Jun 28, 2023, 5:52 AM

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ik w paper adding more ram doesnt help that much but is that the same for folia?

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or should i not go over 12gb or is there some like idk 8gb for every X players etc

fair merlin Jun 28, 2023, 5:59 AM

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haughty gale ik w paper adding more ram doesnt help that much but is that the same for folia?

You want as much RAM and as many cores as you can.

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If you only have 12GB of RAM then you aren't gonna want to run Folia.

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Check the pins/FAQ and the readme for info.

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You want 16 cores, generally.

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At least

scenic sky Jun 28, 2023, 5:59 AM

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ram shouldnt be a concern with folia

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not enough? give more

haughty gale Jun 28, 2023, 6:05 AM

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fair merlin You want as much RAM and as many cores as you can.

i can assign like 80gb and more?

fair merlin Jun 28, 2023, 6:09 AM

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haughty gale i can assign like 80gb and more?

Read the Readme/FAQ

fair merlin Jun 28, 2023, 8:41 AM

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I dunno who got them but they were quicker than me.

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Oh I can check. Duh.

haughty gale Jun 28, 2023, 10:50 AM

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anyone know what jdk the folia test used?

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cornetto?

viral stone Jun 28, 2023, 11:23 AM

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Idk if they noted, for the most part they’re all pretty much the same outside of the more special distros, so it would just be one of the hotspot ones

ocean geyser Jun 28, 2023, 1:13 PM

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what gc should i use? zgc or g1gc?

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 1:37 PM

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120-160 players still good but some time Folia do something wrong and restart the server 😭

inner swift Jun 28, 2023, 1:40 PM

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We'd need the logs to tell

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You also have 11 thousand entities in the most utilized region

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 1:41 PM

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I know

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 1:43 PM

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inner swift We'd need the logs to tell

i think cause of my startup flag? : Old one java -Xms60G -Xmx60G -XX:ConcGCThreads=3 -XX:ParallelGCThreads=10 --add-modules=jdk.incubator.vector -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -Daikars.new.flags=true -XX:G1NewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=50 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=16M -XX:G1ReservePercent=15 -Dterminal.jline=false -Dterminal.ansi=true -jar {{SERVER_JARFILE}}

New one : java -Xms60G -Xmx60G -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:+UnlockDiagnosticVMOptions -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+HeapDumpOnOutOfMemoryError -XX:+UseLargePages -XX:LargePageSizeInBytes=2M -XX:ShenandoahGCMode=generational -XX:-ShenandoahPacing -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:ShenandoahGCHeuristics=adaptive -XX:ShenandoahInitFreeThreshold=55 -XX:ShenandoahGarbageThreshold=30 -XX:ShenandoahMinFreeThreshold=20 -XX:ShenandoahAllocSpikeFactor=10 -XX:ConcGCThreads=3 -XX:ParallelGCThreads=10 --add-modules=jdk.incubator.vector -Dterminal.jline=false -Dterminal.ansi=true -jar folia-paperclip-1.19.4-R0.1-SNAPSHOT-mojmap.jar

viral stone Jun 28, 2023, 1:43 PM

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Once again, we'd need lots

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Logs

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Or see dmesg

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 1:46 PM

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Also

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when player go more than 135

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30-50% of them got increase ping

viral stone Jun 28, 2023, 1:46 PM

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Maybe increase the netty threads or check your network utilisation, etc

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 1:46 PM

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netty-threads: 6

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how much i need to increase

viral stone Jun 28, 2023, 1:47 PM

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Idk

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 1:47 PM

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currently :
GC: 3 concurrent
Chunk System IO: 4
Chunk System Worker: 2
Netty: 6
Region Threads: 16

viral stone Jun 28, 2023, 1:47 PM

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You're using pre release experimental software intended for a niche use case

inner swift Jun 28, 2023, 1:47 PM

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I don't think Folia 1.19.4 is supported anyway

viral stone Jun 28, 2023, 1:48 PM

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There comes some level of expectations that you understand some level of what you're doing

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We cannot provide you ideal configd for a lot of this stuff as we have no idea of your setup and how stuff is performing

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It's in you to tweak stuff and see how it goes, or make educated guesses based on profiling etc

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 1:49 PM

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So

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i have 2 servers
1 Is on datacenter and running Proxy the network_compression_threshold : 256
2 is my own server plan at other location and the main server running the network_compression_threshold : -1
the ping from proxy <-> my own server is 1-3ms
I set ram proxy for 2-8GB and main server is 60GB

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Proxy dedicated

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 1:53 PM

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From the folia readme:

netty IO :~4 per 200-300 players

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 1:54 PM

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ocean geyser what gc should i use? zgc or g1gc?

If you have the spare cores ZGC is probably better but G1GC is way better than it was in java 8 so is still a solid recommendation

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https://github.com/brucethemoose/Minecraft-Performance-Flags-Benchmarks has some suggestions for flags to use and when different GCs might make sense

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 1:55 PM

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my server chunk load take along time

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do i need to change this?

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finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 1:56 PM

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It's not quite the same as Aikar's flags when you use their G1GC suggestion but I'm not sure what is different or why

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In 1.20 that "chunk-system" section doesn't even exist anymore

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So I don't know that changing it will help? Try it and let us know what happens

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From the folia readme:

chunk system io threads: ~3 per 200-300 players
chunk system workers if pre-generated, ~2 per 200-300 players

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If your world isn't pregenerated I'm not sure there is a number of worker threads that will be enough 😄

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Like I think it stops scaling after about 16 due to the design of the thing but otherwise higher is better

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 1:59 PM

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and my server have like 13-14 plugins

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with 60GB ram

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how much players it can handle in anarchy server?

viral stone Jun 28, 2023, 2:00 PM

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We can't tell you

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 2:00 PM

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like 100-300

viral stone Jun 28, 2023, 2:00 PM

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It's all going to boil down to how people play

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 2:00 PM

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im just make sure the server have enough ram

viral stone Jun 28, 2023, 2:00 PM

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If people aren't spread out enough, less players than paper will handle

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Ram is probably not going to be an issue

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 2:23 PM

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even i set 5gb ram? 😂

viral stone Jun 28, 2023, 2:23 PM

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...

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 2:23 PM

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I mean in the past

viral stone Jun 28, 2023, 2:24 PM

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You said you where throwing 60G if ram at it, hence the statement

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 2:24 PM

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server in 1.17.1 i set server for 5gb ram and it got 60 people playing with 20tps

viral stone Jun 28, 2023, 2:24 PM

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Idk if you're trolling or just being dense

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 2:24 PM

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maybe ram isnot a problem

viral stone Jun 28, 2023, 2:24 PM

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But we've already gone over this, we can't really tell you what is best for your environment

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 2:25 PM

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viral stone You said you where throwing 60G if ram at it, hence the statement

Yea i did

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cause 1.19 can't handle over 40 players in 26gb ram

viral stone Jun 28, 2023, 2:25 PM

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All we can say is to throw a bunch of hardware at it and if stuff is split up, if will generally perform better than paper for the same player cuubts

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Er

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Yes, it can

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 2:25 PM

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viral stone Jun 28, 2023, 2:25 PM

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And if you're having issues with memory with 40 players with that much ram, idk what to tell you

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Memory in java is not a simple topic, especially with software like Minecraft which has a stupidly high allocation rate

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If you tell it it can use 26G of ram, it will use it

tawdry gullBOT Jun 28, 2023, 2:26 PM

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-Xmx controls the amount of heap memory assigned to the JVM, this does not include other memory used by java, or native memory used by other libraries such as netty (for networking) or SQLite. Please do not allocate all of your memory!

vernal wyvern Jun 28, 2023, 2:26 PM

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I think my server enough to handle 200-400 players with full 19-20tps but i have to

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spawnradius them

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12500

steep elbow Jun 28, 2023, 3:08 PM

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vernal wyvern cause 1.19 can't handle over 40 players in 26gb ram

well im running with 80-100 players daily and 14gb is just fine

steep elbow Jun 28, 2023, 3:10 PM

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vernal wyvern

ofc it uses 65gb ram because you tell it to use all the ram thats available

lament ravine Jun 28, 2023, 3:10 PM

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Any way to remove a worldborder on folia?

viral stone Jun 28, 2023, 3:11 PM

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Er, if you mean the vanilla one, you can't remove it, all you can do is set it stupidly high

lament ravine Jun 28, 2023, 3:12 PM

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Well yeah I wanna set it stupidly high, but the worldborder command is gone

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My bad, that’s what I meant by “remove”

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But do you know of a way to change the border in folia since the command is gone?

viral stone Jun 28, 2023, 3:12 PM

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No, you'd need to modify the level.dat

finite hinge Jun 28, 2023, 3:13 PM

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Doesn't it default to 12,000,000?

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Unless you imported a world where someone had changed it

viral stone Jun 28, 2023, 3:13 PM

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Surprised he even reads that data, id imagine that that would be considered a bug

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Guess nobody though somebody would copy a world they cared about over

lament ravine Jun 28, 2023, 3:14 PM

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I copied a world I cared about over lol

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But I’ll try to see if I can change it in level.fat

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Dat*

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Idk why the fuck that autocorrect to fat lmao

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Appreciate the help homie👍

golden mica Jun 28, 2023, 3:19 PM

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i will start the world with paper and set worldborder, then start it with folia, that s ok i try a lot of times

vestal gulch Jun 28, 2023, 5:43 PM

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one of my players is asking if chunk loaders work

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in other words is region allocation influenced only by player location

chilly edge Jun 28, 2023, 5:54 PM

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Is it possible to get a scoreboard on a Folia-Server?

vestal gulch Jun 28, 2023, 5:54 PM

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chilly edge Is it possible to get a scoreboard on a Folia-Server?

with packets

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like any good server

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folia team hasn't yet implemented (and by the sound of it isn't unanimously sure how to implement) vanilla scoreboard API

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since that's global state

chilly edge Jun 28, 2023, 5:59 PM

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ok can you give me an example?

vestal gulch Jun 28, 2023, 6:01 PM

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chilly edge ok can you give me an example?

if you want a code example go to #folia-dev and if you want a plugin that just does this for you, any existing packet-based scoreboard plugin that targets paper should implicitly work with folia with few modifications

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pester their authors if you please

chilly edge Jun 28, 2023, 6:01 PM

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ok

vestal gulch Jun 28, 2023, 6:02 PM

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electroniccat mentioned fastboard

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look there ig

daring nimbus Jun 28, 2023, 7:14 PM

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It now (finally) has adventure support too

keen fable Jun 29, 2023, 1:19 AM

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vestal gulch one of my players is asking if chunk loaders work

They works - but sometimes they broke

vernal wyvern Jun 29, 2023, 1:37 AM

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net.minecraft.ReportedException: Exception ticking world
    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.tickChildren(MinecraftServer.java:1698) ~[folia-1.19.4.jar:git-Folia-"ca3b7ad"]
    at net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer.tickChildren(DedicatedServer.java:447) ~[folia-1.19.4.jar:git-Folia-"ca3b7ad"]
    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.tickServer(MinecraftServer.java:1536) ~[folia-1.19.4.jar:git-Folia-"ca3b7ad"]
    at io.papermc.paper.threadedregions.TickRegions$ConcreteRegionTickHandle.tickRegion(TickRegions.java:360) ~[folia-1.19.4.jar:git-Folia-"ca3b7ad"]
    at io.papermc.paper.threadedregions.TickRegionScheduler$RegionScheduleHandle.runTick(TickRegionScheduler.java:385) ~[folia-1.19.4.jar:git-Folia-"ca3b7ad"]
    at ca.spottedleaf.concurrentutil.scheduler.SchedulerThreadPool$TickThreadRunner.run(SchedulerThreadPool.java:525) ~[folia-1.19.4.jar:git-Folia-"ca3b7ad"]
    at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:833) ~[?:?]
Caused by: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Already sent chunk [-83, 3] in world 'world_nether' to player ServerPlayer['Dinosaur_Hamin'/639748, uuid='a6c2aa37-5ac2-3824-a151-9a67d066e3dc', l='ServerLevel[world_nether]', x=-1462.27, y=67.00, z=52.50, cpos=[-92, 3], tl=269747, v=true](Dinosaur_Hamin at -1462.2653441011716,67.0,52.5)
    at net.minecraft.server.level.ChunkHolder.addPlayer(ChunkHolder.java:136) ~[folia-1.19.4.jar:git-Folia-"ca3b7ad"]
    at net.minecraft.server.level.ChunkMap.updateChunkTracking(ChunkMap.java:735) ~[folia-1.19.4.jar:git-Folia-"ca3b7ad"]
    at io.papermc.paper.chunk.system.RegionizedPlayerChunkLoader$PlayerChunkLoaderData.sendChunk(RegionizedPlayerChunkLoader.java:485) ~[folia-1.19.4.jar:git-Folia-"ca3b7ad"]
    at io.papermc.paper.chunk.system.RegionizedPlayerChunkLoader$PlayerChunkLoaderData.updateQueues(RegionizedPlayerChunkLoader.java:860) ~[folia-1.19.4.jar:git-Folia-"ca3b7ad"]
    at io.papermc.paper.chunk.system.RegionizedPlayerChunkLoader.tick(RegionizedPlayerChunkLoader.java:244) ~[folia-1.19.4.jar:git-Folia-"ca3b7ad"]
    at net.minecraft.server.level.ServerChunkCache.tick(ServerChunkCache.java:598) ~[folia-1.19.4.jar:git-Folia-"ca3b7ad"]
    at net.minecraft.server.level.ServerLevel.tick(ServerLevel.java:739) ~[folia-1.19.4.jar:git-Folia-"ca3b7ad"]
    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.tickChildren(MinecraftServer.java:1679) ~[folia-1.19.4.jar:git-Folia-"ca3b7ad"]
    ... 6 more```

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my whole server just dead cause that

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💀

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📎 message.txt

fierce knotBOT Jun 29, 2023, 1:39 AM

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vernal wyvern

message.txt by @vernal wyvern: https://pastes.dev/gsyfQDyLTp

pastes | gsyfQDyLTp

A paste containing 35 lines of plaintext.

tacit tartan Jun 29, 2023, 1:39 AM

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I spy offline mode

vernal wyvern Jun 29, 2023, 1:39 AM

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😡

bleak python Jun 29, 2023, 1:39 AM

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that issue might have been fixed in 1.20, no-one confirmed it anyway
https://github.com/PaperMC/Folia/issues/45

vernal wyvern Jun 29, 2023, 1:40 AM

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A_sob

tranquil epoch Jun 29, 2023, 1:49 AM

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vernal wyvern ```[io.papermc.paper.threadedregions.TickRegionScheduler] Region #16898 centered...

fixed in 1.20

vernal wyvern Jun 29, 2023, 1:50 AM

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but i need in 1.19.4 😭

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since my plugins isn't support 1.20 yet

regal anvil Jun 29, 2023, 1:57 AM

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Can we get an upstream for PlayerOpenSignEvent? ❤️

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 2:32 AM

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vernal wyvern but i need in 1.19.4 😭

Work isn’t gonna get backported to 1.194, so recommend updating plugins and/or switching plugins.

queen zealot Jun 29, 2023, 2:32 AM

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Is the current source code buildable? All i keep getting is java.lang.IllegalStateException: Module entity with name: Folia should be available

finite hinge Jun 29, 2023, 2:33 AM

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That's an IDE bug, isn't it?

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Just build from a terminal

queen zealot Jun 29, 2023, 2:38 AM

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Yea no terminal just straight garbage

FAILURE: Build failed with an exception.

* What went wrong:
Execution failed for task ':paper:patchCraftBukkit'.

tacit tartan Jun 29, 2023, 2:39 AM

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there should either be more info or a prompt for a flag to enable more info

queen zealot Jun 29, 2023, 2:39 AM

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queen zealot Jun 29, 2023, 2:41 AM

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tacit tartan there should either be more info or a prompt for a flag to enable more info

You want me to run --info or --debug?

finite hinge Jun 29, 2023, 2:46 AM

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It needs to not be in a OneDrive synced folder

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And in as short of a path as possible

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Try C:\Folia

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The patch files have long names and end up nested a few levels into the git repo so you hit the WIndows path limit

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And OneDrive sometimes tries to mess with the files while they're being worked on and crashes a build

queen zealot Jun 29, 2023, 2:49 AM

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I see alright. Also dont have ondrive at all.

lament ravine Jun 29, 2023, 2:57 AM

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queen zealot Yea no terminal just straight garbage ``` FAILURE: Build failed with an excepti...

Either install Java 17(not 17.1 or anything else, straight 17) or you have to assign a user.name and user.email in git bash. I had the same issue a few days ago and doing those fixed it

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Atleast thats what worked for me

tacit tartan Jun 29, 2023, 3:02 AM

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if it's still not working, run the git command it's including in the error manually and see what it errors with

queen zealot Jun 29, 2023, 3:15 AM

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WIndows path limit was the issue. seems to work fine now

lament ravine Jun 29, 2023, 5:40 AM

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queen zealot WIndows path limit was the issue. seems to work fine now

W

haughty gale Jun 29, 2023, 6:24 AM

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should folia be runw ith aikars flags?

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also is /restart disabled on folia?

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 6:45 AM

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You should never use /restart

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Using same flags as Paper is fine

obtuse venture Jun 29, 2023, 6:59 AM

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guys, is this spec gud enuf to run folia?

ocean geyser Jun 29, 2023, 7:01 AM

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what cpu you use?

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 7:01 AM

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obtuse venture guys, is this spec gud enuf to run folia?

Need to know what CPU it is and more about the setup.

obtuse venture Jun 29, 2023, 7:02 AM

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lemme ask the hosting provider...

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 7:02 AM

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obtuse venture lemme ask the hosting provider...

If you have to ask them the answer is probably no.

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You want a dedicated server.

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Read the pins/FAQ in here and the Readme

obtuse venture Jun 29, 2023, 7:03 AM

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fair merlin You want a dedicated server.

ok_dokie

haughty gale Jun 29, 2023, 7:46 AM

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fair merlin You should never use /restart

why?

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the ones in the #paper-help pins

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 7:56 AM

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haughty gale the ones in the <#289587909051416579> pins

No, in here for Folia.

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 7:57 AM

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haughty gale why?

And apologies - I thought you said /reload. Reload is bad. Restart probably requires some kind of script or plugin

timid grotto Jun 29, 2023, 8:02 AM

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i think /restart is spigot and uses a restart.bat/sh file or something

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i think i tried it once, it didnt work (because i didnt have that), so i just never tried it again because my start script just restarted anyways

haughty gale Jun 29, 2023, 8:22 AM

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timid grotto i think /restart is spigot and uses a restart.bat/sh file or something

yea but it’s seemingly missing in folia

atomic flicker Jun 29, 2023, 1:02 PM

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Hey Guys, how i can get this Folia ? 😄 im hyped to try it by my self 😄

viral stone Jun 29, 2023, 1:03 PM

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You have to build it yourself

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See the instructions on the paper repo, just clone the folia repo instead

atomic flicker Jun 29, 2023, 1:03 PM

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uhm, i never have do this bevore xD

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can you help me with this? (Send me the instructions or step by step)

jagged ether Jun 29, 2023, 1:05 PM

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Read the README and it's literally a step by step

foggy blaze Jun 29, 2023, 1:07 PM

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jagged ether Read the README and it's literally a step by step

But keep in mind that “step by step” doesn’t mean that you understand what the steps are.
We’re not going to teach you how to build it because if you don’t know how to do it yourself, you probably shouldn’t be using it to begin with (it’s intended for use by plugins devs and the like for the time being)

vernal wyvern Jun 29, 2023, 2:26 PM

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folia tps placeholderapi?

foggy blaze Jun 29, 2023, 2:28 PM

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Yes

vernal wyvern Jun 29, 2023, 2:29 PM

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like

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i want each player

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tps

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when where they at

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lofty magnet Jun 29, 2023, 2:30 PM

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someone would just need to write such a placeholder extension

viral stone Jun 29, 2023, 2:37 PM

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It's a mostly one man project whose busy af

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Also, were somewhat far before bug reports really matters

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If you notice there's a lot on the to-do list still

foggy blaze Jun 29, 2023, 2:43 PM

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Yeah I’m sorta surprised ya even released it early considering just how indev it still is

vernal wyvern Jun 29, 2023, 2:45 PM

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@viral stone there another placeholder like %tps% for folia?

arctic tapir Jun 29, 2023, 2:46 PM

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[no-ping]

vernal wyvern Jun 29, 2023, 2:46 PM

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ok

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I want to show each of my player have tps of what region they on

viral stone Jun 29, 2023, 2:46 PM

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Read the rules

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I'm not Google

vernal wyvern Jun 29, 2023, 2:56 PM

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LIKE

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I CAN'T FOUND IT

daring nimbus Jun 29, 2023, 2:57 PM

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then it might not exist

viral stone Jun 29, 2023, 2:58 PM

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Placeholders have literally nothing to do with us

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You not being able to find it doesn't give you the right to start annoying us, chances are nobody cared to make it exist

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 7:47 PM

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Hello, i don't found anything about how to build Folia i got folia-server-1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT-all.jar but i can't start it

viral stone Jun 29, 2023, 7:49 PM

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Wrong jar

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You want the one from the root project, not the -server project

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 7:50 PM

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How i can got the server file ?

viral stone Jun 29, 2023, 7:50 PM

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What?

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Go to build/libs, not -server/build/libs

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 7:51 PM

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viral stone Go to build/libs, not -server/build/libs

here ?

viral stone Jun 29, 2023, 7:52 PM

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No

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Stop opening the server folder

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 7:53 PM

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i have only that

viral stone Jun 29, 2023, 7:55 PM

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No idea, try cloning a fresh repo and trying again from the command line

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 7:55 PM

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What command ?

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I just "shadowJar"

viral stone Jun 29, 2023, 7:56 PM

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No, read the paper resdme

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 7:56 PM

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I don't saw how to build..

arctic tapir Jun 29, 2023, 7:57 PM

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https://github.com/papermc/paper#how-to-compiling-jar-from-source

viral stone Jun 29, 2023, 7:57 PM

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It's in the paper resdme, there's like 4 steps

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 7:58 PM

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viral stone It's in the paper resdme, there's like 4 steps

Hoo but i never see that before

tiny gale Jun 29, 2023, 7:58 PM

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arctic tapir <https://github.com/papermc/paper#how-to-compiling-jar-from-source>

is this the same for folia?

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 7:58 PM

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visual pagoda Hoo but i never see that before

cas just linked it right there above the message

viral stone Jun 29, 2023, 7:58 PM

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Yes, exact same tooling, exact same steps

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 7:58 PM

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Folia is a fork of Paper so the steps are the same.

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 8:00 PM

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Why doesn't add "How to build" on folia readme

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 8:00 PM

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visual pagoda Why doesn't add "How to build" on folia readme

It’s still in development. There’s a lot of stuff unfinished and missing.

tiny gale Jun 29, 2023, 8:00 PM

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visual pagoda Why doesn't add "How to build" on folia readme

because folia is intended for devs, etc for the moment

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 8:00 PM

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LIke what ?

viral stone Jun 29, 2023, 8:00 PM

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Because it's experimental pre release software, documentation is still a work in progress, etc

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 8:00 PM

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And if you don’t know how to build it you probably shouldn’t be building it.

tiny gale Jun 29, 2023, 8:00 PM

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not meant for anyone to just go there, follow a step by step guide to just compile it without knowing what he's doing

viral stone Jun 29, 2023, 8:01 PM

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You're expected to be familiar with our platform and tooling as a result of the state of it

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 8:01 PM

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fair merlin And if you don’t know how to build it you probably shouldn’t be building it.

I juste never need to do that before, and Paper build are different of other builds

tiny gale Jun 29, 2023, 8:01 PM

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visual pagoda I juste never need to do that before, and Paper build are different of other bui...

paper builds are ready for production

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folia is experimental and in very early stages

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 8:01 PM

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visual pagoda I juste never need to do that before, and Paper build are different of other bui...

Read the pins/FAQ in here and the Readme

tiny gale Jun 29, 2023, 8:01 PM

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far from being ready for production

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 8:02 PM

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tiny gale paper builds are ready for production

They meant building Paper compared to spigot or other stuff.

tawdry gullBOT Jun 29, 2023, 8:02 PM

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Folia

Folia is a fork of Paper that adds multi-threaded region support. Many plugins will require updating to support Folia. There is no ETA for publicly available builds.

For more information:

Folia will:

NOT be backported to older versions <1.19.4
NOT be merged into Paper
NOT be ported to Fabric nor Forge

Stay tuned to #announcements for any further info about releases.

tiny gale Jun 29, 2023, 8:02 PM

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fair merlin They meant building Paper compared to spigot or other stuff.

OH

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 8:15 PM

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tiny gale OH

gradlew commands for Folia are not intuitive

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 8:17 PM

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Gradle can be tricky if you haven't worked with it before.

tiny gale Jun 29, 2023, 8:17 PM

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^^

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 8:17 PM

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fair merlin Gradle can be tricky if you haven't worked with it before.

Everyday...

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but

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 8:18 PM

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Makes sense to me.

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First you apply the patches, then you build the jar.

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 8:18 PM

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fair merlin Makes sense to me.

me too but i can't guess by myself

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 8:19 PM

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visual pagoda me too but i can't guess by myself

You don't have to guess, that's why we have the build instructions.

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 8:19 PM

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Yeah for Paper

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not Folia

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 8:19 PM

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The build instructions for Folia are the same as Paper, as it's a Paper fork.

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 8:20 PM

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fair merlin The build instructions for Folia are the same as Paper, as it's a Paper fork.

But it's not said in Folia readme

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 8:20 PM

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Yes, as cat said earlier Because it's experimental pre release software, documentation is still a work in progress, etc

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 8:20 PM

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but if nobody know how to build ?

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 8:21 PM

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visual pagoda but if nobody know how to build ?

It's not meant for everyone yet.

viral stone Jun 29, 2023, 8:21 PM

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Once again, this is an early release for Devs

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 8:21 PM

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It's still experiemental, in development, and not released.

viral stone Jun 29, 2023, 8:21 PM

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Documentation is still in the works

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 8:21 PM

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It's expected that you'll be here in Discord asking questions, reporting bugs, etc.

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It's not just an off the shelf thing. Lots of stuff is busted or missing.

viral stone Jun 29, 2023, 8:22 PM

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And, as early pre release software, there is some level of expectations placed on people who want to use it

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 8:22 PM

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it's why spigot plugin doesn't work or it's never gonna work ?

viral stone Jun 29, 2023, 8:22 PM

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Spigot plugins don't work because the entire mechanism in how the server ticks has changed

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We'd rather not deal with server owners crying due to their plugins not handling events being called concurrently, etc

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 8:23 PM

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Ok ! It's not a problem !

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OOF ViaVersion still working! Nice

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 8:24 PM

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visual pagoda OOF ViaVersion still working! Nice

Just make sure you read the FAQ, pins in here, and the Readme on the repo.

Folia has specific use cases and hardware requirements. It's not for everyone or every use.

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 8:24 PM

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fair merlin Just make sure you read the FAQ, pins in here, and the Readme on the repo. Foli...

not a problem for me

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reload command is just causing an error, it's not disabled it's normal ?

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 8:25 PM

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You never want to use reload

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 8:26 PM

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fair merlin You never want to use reload

I know but i just saw it is disabled

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but it's not

blazing bough Jun 29, 2023, 8:26 PM

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Ok... I gotta ask. @visual pagoda what will you run Folia on?

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 8:26 PM

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Why do you "gotta ask"?

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 8:27 PM

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blazing bough Ok... I gotta ask. <@921104249885175809> what will you run Folia on?

VPS server

blazing bough Jun 29, 2023, 8:27 PM

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Because I'm curios

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 8:27 PM

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visual pagoda VPS server

Yeah you definitely don't want to run it on a VPS.

viral stone Jun 29, 2023, 8:27 PM

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Reload command is borked, no idea what the plan for it is, wouldn't be surprised if it was just removed

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 8:27 PM

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fair merlin Yeah you definitely don't want to run it on a VPS.

why?

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 8:27 PM

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viral stone Reload command is borked, no idea what the plan for it is, wouldn't be surprised...

Yeah, it's a good thing !

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 8:27 PM

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visual pagoda why?

It will be very slow and perform very poorly.

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 8:27 PM

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(Realy sorry for my bad english guys....)

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 8:28 PM

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No worries, your English is fine

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 8:28 PM

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All commands who are disabled still can be used by a plugin ?

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Like bossbar

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Or it's just completely removed

viral stone Jun 29, 2023, 8:29 PM

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The command is disabled, does not exist

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 8:29 PM

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viral stone The command is disabled, does not exist

but the feature can be used ?

viral stone Jun 29, 2023, 8:29 PM

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Depends on the feature

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 8:30 PM

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Trought a plugin i can send a bossbar ?

viral stone Jun 29, 2023, 8:30 PM

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A lot of that stuff is disabled because it relies on global state

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Idk, see the readme, worse casr they use packets to fake it

visual pagoda Jun 29, 2023, 8:31 PM

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Ok ok, so it's not impossible but not more easier

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I'm just shocked about my english, i just follow basics lesson at school. by my personals project who are using english i learn it so easier

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Dev communities are so good ❤️

vivid kelp Jun 29, 2023, 11:06 PM

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Does Folia follow the same development opinions as paper? Ie fixing vanilla exploits etc? Is there going to be feature parity with paper or is paper going to offer things that folia does not?

fair merlin Jun 29, 2023, 11:07 PM

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Yes.

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Er, yes for fixing.

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It's a fork of Paper, so the same "fixes" for stuff are in Folia.

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They're targeted at different use cases so there will be some differences in how they run/are used and what's in them.

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But if an exploit or dupe gets fixed on Paper it'll get picked up by Folia

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Folia is for high core/high performance servers with high playercounts who are spread out. So it's not for everyone.

vivid kelp Jun 29, 2023, 11:13 PM

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fair merlin They're targeted at different use cases so there will be some differences in how...

Tried to word my question in a way that was mindful of this 😅

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Thanks for the answer!

urban stag Jun 30, 2023, 10:59 AM

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ik its a dumb question, but could folia be run on multiple computers? like would it technically be possible?

steady crown Jun 30, 2023, 11:02 AM

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That would require going from a shared memory model to a distributed memory model. Whole different project haha

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And I guess with some smart synchronization you could fake that using multiple paper servers to give players the illusion they play on the same server

tiny gale Jun 30, 2023, 11:08 AM

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multipaper is a thing but it kinda sucks

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the second option you said is the best imo

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for non smp servers

deep pond Jun 30, 2023, 1:28 PM

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should one disable hyper threadng for folia? it makes some sense on a usual minecraft server to not split the core and get more performance out of the single cores (since it's mostly singlethreaded) but does that still apply for folia?

fair belfry Jun 30, 2023, 2:16 PM

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pretty sure the performance gain per core by disabling it is pretty negligible, not entirely sure tho

viral stone Jun 30, 2023, 3:19 PM

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Depends on the chip, you can have pretty sizeable single thread perf gains

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Just depends on if losing the extra vthreads is worth it

plain shuttle Jul 1, 2023, 12:04 AM

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Hey, I don't know if the bug is already known
I found out that if you sleep in a bed in Survival and then die, you no longer spawn on the bed, but on the world spun. I couldn't find anything about the bed or respawn theme in the GitHub issues
did others notice the bug too?

livid crag Jul 1, 2023, 12:05 AM

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if you have steps to recreate the issue and have not found any currently listed as open, you can create new issue

inner swift Jul 1, 2023, 12:06 AM

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(Note: test without plugins)

arctic tapir Jul 1, 2023, 12:06 AM

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(and not with a fork)

plain shuttle Jul 1, 2023, 12:06 AM

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ok i'll just test it

fair merlin Jul 1, 2023, 12:24 AM

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Don’t think there’s any recommendation for any of that yet. Really going to depend on the server CPU and setup, too.

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Network block storage instead of a physical disk in a server? Yeah that’s gonna be slow as fuck.

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400 megabits or megabytes?

And is that with Minecraft or with something else?

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Network egress for the test didn’t include disk writes.

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So if you’re using a network disk instead of a local disk you’re gonna have a bad time.

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@final spire would rather you didn’t delete messages, as it makes the conversation busted and makes me look crazy for talking to myself

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Would recommend you revisiting your requirements for Folia though to see if it’s the right choice. Paper and Minecraft out of the box don’t do great with network storage and folia especially

plain shuttle Jul 1, 2023, 12:48 AM

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wierd i testedet and i is not an issue anymore i guess it was fixed in last commits or something it was there a few days ago okey never mind😅

livid crag Jul 1, 2023, 12:51 AM

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thank you for confirming and glad it is fixed.

plain shuttle Jul 1, 2023, 12:52 AM

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livid crag thank you for confirming and glad it is fixed.

of course no problem

foggy scarab Jul 1, 2023, 6:26 AM

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where can i download jar file ?
i dont know what should i do to compile any source code :<

tawdry gullBOT Jul 1, 2023, 6:27 AM

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⚠️ Please do not share any links to builds of Folia at this time. We are intentionally not providing easy to find/obtain downloads right now - when the time is right, everything will be available through official PaperMC distributions.

fair merlin Jul 1, 2023, 6:28 AM

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foggy scarab where can i download jar file ? i dont know what should i do to compile any sour...

You have to build it yourself, using the instructions from the Paper repo.

tawdry gullBOT Jul 1, 2023, 2:21 PM

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⚠️ Please do not share any links to builds of Folia at this time. We are intentionally not providing easy to find/obtain downloads right now - when the time is right, everything will be available through official PaperMC distributions.

supple raptor Jul 1, 2023, 2:22 PM

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I tried to build but when I run most my plugin doesn't work

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How to fix this?

visual falcon Jul 1, 2023, 2:24 PM

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thats normal

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not all plugins support Folia

supple raptor Jul 1, 2023, 2:24 PM

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Oh I see

finite hinge Jul 1, 2023, 2:26 PM

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Very few do

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Folia is mostly at the "you have to write all your own plugins" stage right now

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Aside from the infrastructure ones like ViaVersion, geyser, etc

supple raptor Jul 1, 2023, 2:38 PM

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Thank you

lament ravine Jul 1, 2023, 7:05 PM

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@supple raptor if you check the plugins page on papermc.io, you can see most of the plugins that folia support. Other than that, very few will be able to work with folia due to there not being one main thread for them to run on. But some packet-based plugins might work but they’re few and far between

haughty gale Jul 1, 2023, 11:09 PM

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y no spigot /restart command

arctic tapir Jul 1, 2023, 11:10 PM

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/stop

haughty gale Jul 1, 2023, 11:11 PM

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but restart saves me an uparrow and enter

arctic tapir Jul 1, 2023, 11:11 PM

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create a auto restart script then

haughty gale Jul 1, 2023, 11:11 PM

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but then i type stop and need to ctrl c because it auto restart

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stop should stop and restart should restart

supple raptor Jul 1, 2023, 11:25 PM

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lament ravine <@681342002004099116> if you check the plugins page on papermc.io, you can see m...

Thank you so much

lament ravine Jul 2, 2023, 4:38 AM

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haughty gale but then i type stop and need to ctrl c because it auto restart

This is a good plug-in idea

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I’ll try to get to writing one that does that, and has crash protection to auto restart on crash, but we’ll see ab that

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Most likely gonna be questionable or just not work but we’ll see

fallow stone Jul 2, 2023, 5:30 AM

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FastAsyncWorldEdit jar for 1.20.1?

livid crag Jul 2, 2023, 5:31 AM

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This is not google, check with the project, I believe there is a WIP PR or something.

fallow stone Jul 2, 2023, 5:31 AM

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livid crag This is not google, check with the project, I believe there is a WIP PR or somet...

No jar inside the PR

livid crag Jul 2, 2023, 5:32 AM

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shurg

hexed ice Jul 2, 2023, 5:32 AM

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you can compile that pr yourself

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though usually if no builds are provided then it's for a good reason

arctic tapir Jul 2, 2023, 5:39 PM

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update

unkempt aurora Jul 2, 2023, 7:14 PM

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So you can do everything normally but you just look like when dying animation ends?

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Well, this happened to me also in Paper, sometimes I think

spare tendon Jul 2, 2023, 7:41 PM

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this got fixed recently pretty sure

fair merlin Jul 2, 2023, 7:51 PM

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As others said, make sure you have the most recent build.

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When did you build it?

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Not sure how you have your build setup but I’m pretty sure that was fixed a week or so ago.

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You might want to clone the repo and build it locally to make sure it’s building properly.

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I’m deleting your screenshot because of the contents of the chat in the screenshot.

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Can you post the output of /version and /plugins?

vernal wyvern Jul 2, 2023, 7:56 PM

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hello where i can report a bug for folia

hexed ice Jul 2, 2023, 7:57 PM

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on the issue tracker on github

fair merlin Jul 2, 2023, 7:57 PM

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Where’s this screenshot from? Link to the repo/page?

fair merlin Jul 2, 2023, 7:58 PM

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vernal wyvern hello where i can report a bug for folia

Depends on the bug. You can ask about it here first if you want or you can open a Github issue.

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Yeah, you’re using a fork

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That commit hash didn’t seem correct.

vernal wyvern Jul 2, 2023, 7:59 PM

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So there a bugs on Folia
Im using Folia 1.20.1, when someone killed a Dragon in the end and a whole server hear that

fair merlin Jul 2, 2023, 7:59 PM

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Can you clone build from the Folia repo to reproduce the issue?

fair merlin Jul 2, 2023, 7:59 PM

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vernal wyvern So there a bugs on Folia Im using Folia 1.20.1, when someone killed a Dragon in ...

That’s not a folia bug, that’s a paper thing.

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IIRC there’s a flag to turn it off

vernal wyvern Jul 2, 2023, 8:00 PM

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what..

fair merlin Jul 2, 2023, 8:00 PM

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A game rule

vernal wyvern Jul 2, 2023, 8:00 PM

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what the name of it

fair merlin Jul 2, 2023, 8:00 PM

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Check the docs, I don’t recall it offhand.

vernal wyvern Jul 2, 2023, 8:00 PM

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ok

bleak python Jul 2, 2023, 8:02 PM

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you do realise that with that, you're breaking the minecraft eula, right?

hexed ice Jul 2, 2023, 8:02 PM

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they're also using offline mode so it's not like they care about that

bleak python Jul 2, 2023, 8:03 PM

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pepw

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ok and?

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that doesn't make it right

hexed ice Jul 2, 2023, 8:03 PM

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if your server only attracts 75 players you might aswell just use paper pepela

vernal wyvern Jul 2, 2023, 8:04 PM

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praydge

fair merlin Jul 2, 2023, 8:05 PM

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We don’t support piracy here.

vernal wyvern Jul 2, 2023, 8:05 PM

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💀

fair merlin Jul 2, 2023, 8:06 PM

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bleak python you do realise that with that, you're breaking the minecraft eula, right?

Which bit is breaking the EULA?

bleak python Jul 2, 2023, 8:07 PM

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publishing the bundler jar (not paperclip); mojang does not allow to distribute the modified game (server/client), but mods are okay (e.g. patches, which is what paperclip does)

fair merlin Jul 2, 2023, 8:08 PM

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Ahh I didn’t actually click the repo link. Yeah that’s not good.

scenic sky Jul 2, 2023, 8:10 PM

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yikes

livid crag Jul 2, 2023, 9:50 PM

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@prime juniper you should probably remove that. Per chance if someone report you they can get your stuff taken down

finite hinge Jul 2, 2023, 10:15 PM

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Oh hey I could get that taken down 🙂

fair merlin Jul 2, 2023, 10:15 PM

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Haha

spring patio Jul 3, 2023, 3:12 AM

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Good afternoon! With an online 300 people absolutely stop loading chunks. Is there any way to fix this?

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 3:14 AM

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spring patio Good afternoon! With an online 300 people absolutely stop loading chunks. Is the...

What is your CPU / memory?

spring patio Jul 3, 2023, 3:15 AM

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AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor
64GB DDR4

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dedicated server

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 3:15 AM

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spring patio AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor 64GB DDR4

You’re using hardware pretty undersized for our recommendations.

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Better hardware is the only real solution here.

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That’s not enough cores or RAM for that many people.

spring patio Jul 3, 2023, 3:17 AM

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What player limit should I put on it?

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 3:18 AM

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Not sure. That CPU is undersized for our recommendations. You’d have to experiment and see.

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You want at least 16 cores.

tawdry gullBOT Jul 3, 2023, 3:18 AM

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Folia

Folia is a fork of Paper that adds multi-threaded region support. Many plugins will require updating to support Folia. There is no ETA for publicly available builds.

For more information:

Folia will:

NOT be backported to older versions <1.19.4
NOT be merged into Paper
NOT be ported to Fabric nor Forge

Stay tuned to #announcements for any further info about releases.

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 3:18 AM

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Worth reading all of that ^^

spring patio Jul 3, 2023, 3:19 AM

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Okay thank you

spring patio Jul 3, 2023, 5:29 AM

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Is this normal for a folia?

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 5:30 AM

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spring patio Is this normal for a folia?

Normal in what way?

spring patio Jul 3, 2023, 5:30 AM

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fair merlin Normal in what way?

For 300 players

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 5:30 AM

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spring patio For 300 players

Sorry I don't understand your question. What are you asking?

spring patio Jul 3, 2023, 5:31 AM

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Will this processor be suitable to support 300 players on Folia

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AMD RYZEN 9 7950X and 64gb ddr5

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 5:31 AM

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spring patio Will this processor be suitable to support 300 players on Folia

Possibly? There's no good metric for "how many players per CPU" for Paper, let alone Folia which is very new.

spring patio Jul 3, 2023, 5:35 AM

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Is putting a ssd on each world a good solution?

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 5:35 AM

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What's "a csd"?

spring patio Jul 3, 2023, 5:36 AM

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ssd

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 5:36 AM

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Oh yes you want the fastest drive you can get.

spring patio Jul 3, 2023, 5:36 AM

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SSD GIGABYTE Aorus Gen4 7300 AG4731TB 1ТБ, M.2 2280, PCI-E 4.0 x4, NVMe, M.2

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 5:36 AM

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I wouldn't recommend buying hardware if you haven't tested it first in case it's not what you need.

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Maybe rent a dedicated server first?

spring patio Jul 3, 2023, 5:37 AM

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fair merlin Maybe rent a dedicated server first?

I already have a machine like this at home

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 5:38 AM

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Okay then

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Give it a shot.

spring patio Jul 3, 2023, 5:39 AM

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I have one more question. Does it make sense to allocate 100gb of RAM for the server?

north hatch Jul 3, 2023, 5:43 AM

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spring patio Will this processor be suitable to support 300 players on Folia

From my testing, yes

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However your mileage may vary

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See #folia-testing-2

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 5:58 AM

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Yeah will depend a lot on plugins though.

haughty gale Jul 3, 2023, 7:58 AM

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G1HeapRegionSize=16M or 32M for 126gb ram?

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and for -XX:G1NewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=50 should i do like idk 50 60 instead of 40 50

lost tiger Jul 3, 2023, 8:00 AM

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Are you really allocating 126gb of ram

haughty gale Jul 3, 2023, 8:02 AM

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yea it's folia

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should give as much as possible right?

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they had 500gb ram assigned for the pub test

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im leaving 2gb for the os

paper siren Jul 3, 2023, 8:02 AM

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they didn't use G1 though

lost tiger Jul 3, 2023, 8:03 AM

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And that was like 1000players or something

haughty gale Jul 3, 2023, 8:04 AM

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aikars flags with 12-20gb ram or no aikars flags with 126gb ram

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?

paper siren Jul 3, 2023, 8:04 AM

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haughty gale they had 500gb ram assigned for the pub test

and it was more "because we can" rather than "because we need it"

haughty gale Jul 3, 2023, 8:04 AM

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ic

lost tiger Jul 3, 2023, 8:05 AM

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Just copy the flags they used when testing

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-Xms100G
-Xmx100G
-XX:+AlwaysPreTouch
-XX:+UnlockDiagnosticVMOptions
-XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions
-XX:+HeapDumpOnOutOfMemoryError
-XX:+UseLargePages
-XX:LargePageSizeInBytes=2M
-XX:+UseShenandoahGC
-XX:ShenandoahGCMode=generational
-XX:-ShenandoahPacing
-XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled
-XX:ShenandoahGCHeuristics=adaptive
-XX:ShenandoahInitFreeThreshold=55
-XX:ShenandoahGarbageThreshold=30
-XX:ShenandoahMinFreeThreshold=20
-XX:ShenandoahAllocSpikeFactor=10
-XX:ParallelGCThreads=10
-XX:ConcGCThreads=3
-Xlog:gc*:logs/gc.log:time,uptime:filecount=15,filesize=1M
-Dchunky.maxWorkingCount=600

haughty gale Jul 3, 2023, 8:05 AM

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ty

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which cpu is this?

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ik the 600gb ram one was epyc 7713

lost tiger Jul 3, 2023, 8:06 AM

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Idk

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 8:06 AM

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For the first test it was 7713, for the other test we streamed it was a 7950X3D

haughty gale Jul 3, 2023, 8:06 AM

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o im on a 7950x3d too

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the flags eqzy posted were for 7950x3d?

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 8:07 AM

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There should be details in the #folia-testing-2 channel you can look through

haughty gale Jul 3, 2023, 8:07 AM

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ty

paper siren Jul 3, 2023, 8:08 AM

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(note this only works with Java 21 + Generational Shenandoah builds)

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 8:08 AM

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The flags for the second test?

paper siren Jul 3, 2023, 8:08 AM

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yes

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 8:08 AM

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I forget what GC we were using for the first.

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But yeah important to note.

paper siren Jul 3, 2023, 8:09 AM

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first one was Shenandoah too but not the generational variant

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 8:10 AM

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First one was mostly to see how Shenandoah would do, I think?

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I think the jury’s still out on which GC is ideal

haughty gale Jul 3, 2023, 8:10 AM

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https://github.com/corretto/corretto-21

GitHub

GitHub - corretto/corretto-21

Contribute to corretto/corretto-21 development by creating an account on GitHub.

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 8:11 AM

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I personally wouldn’t use coretto

arctic tapir Jul 3, 2023, 8:11 AM

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why not

haughty gale Jul 3, 2023, 8:11 AM

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graal?

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 8:11 AM

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Your mileage may vary

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I stick to oracle since they re-allowed the licensing.

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I’ve had bad luck with coretto. Weird behavior.

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Just a personal opinion.

haughty gale Jul 3, 2023, 8:12 AM

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i was on graal then i went to corrnetto didnt really notice a difference

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 8:13 AM

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GraalVM is a little different

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I mean Folia's real new and there hasn't been a ton of testing on it yet, so try different stuff and see what works.

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If you see anything specific it can't hurt to report it back as good/funky/etc.

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If it were me I'd just use openjdk or Oracle

paper siren Jul 3, 2023, 8:15 AM

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new 21 builds won't have generational shenandoah included though, it was delayed and will rather be part of java 22

haughty gale Jul 3, 2023, 8:16 AM

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do u have a commit

arctic tapir Jul 3, 2023, 8:16 AM

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of what

haughty gale Jul 3, 2023, 8:16 AM

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i couldn’t find corretto 21 builds only the source

paper siren Jul 3, 2023, 8:17 AM

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21 isn't released yet, you'll have to use some early access builds

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but as I said, generational shenandoah isn't part of 21 anymore

haughty gale Jul 3, 2023, 8:19 AM

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i can’t even find normal 21 builds

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only goes to 20

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even in nightly

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could i use 20 shenandoah?

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 8:21 AM

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Sure, give it a shot.

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Like I said it's not like Paper where we have lots of datapoints and years of tinkering to make suggestions. There's not a ton of people using Folia yet.

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You should expect there to be a lot of growing pains, crashes, stuff not working, etc.

haughty gale Jul 3, 2023, 8:23 AM

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can’t find corretto 21 shenandoah builds i’ll start with corretto 17 shenandoah

haughty gale Jul 3, 2023, 8:53 AM

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lost tiger -Xms100G -Xmx100G -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:+UnlockDiagnosticVMOptions -XX:+Unlock...

@fair merlin sorry for ping but do you know how many hugepages the machine had?

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 8:53 AM

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haughty gale <@188417437295706113> sorry for ping but do you know how many hugepages the mach...

I don't.

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Check the channel and see if it's in there?

haughty gale Jul 3, 2023, 8:54 AM

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no mention of pages of hugepages or largepages

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 8:55 AM

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Pretty sure it was hugepages

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But don't recall size.

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Maybe 1G

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People who would know are currently offline

haughty gale Jul 3, 2023, 8:57 AM

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the flags don’t mention hugepages so i think hugetlb pages

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 8:58 AM

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Yeah I'm not sure for that test.

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I wasn't around, and Leaf was keeping an eye on it but it wasn't a Paper test so I wasn't paying as much attention.

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Leaf says "2M pages is fine"

haughty gale Jul 3, 2023, 9:00 AM

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i have that but what should nr_hugepages be

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u said 1gb so i think 500?

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if they're each 2M

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 9:02 AM

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No idea.

foggy peak Jul 3, 2023, 10:55 AM

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Does folia still require testings?

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im planning on using it for a event i want to host

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maybe the devs could get some usefull information out of it, idk?

fair merlin Jul 3, 2023, 10:58 AM

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If you have crashes and/or issues, post 'em up to the Github.

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If you exceed like 3,000 players feel free to tar up and send us redacted logs.

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(Removing player IPs/etc)

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Otherwise it's ongoing day to day testing

foggy peak Jul 3, 2023, 11:02 AM

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alright

keen fable Jul 3, 2023, 6:29 PM

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hey guys, do you know how much time it takes for a region thread to "close" when the only player in the region leave ?

viral stone Jul 3, 2023, 6:34 PM

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It's a thread pool

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It's not a thread let region

keen fable Jul 3, 2023, 6:38 PM

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yeah - i mean "drop the region" "drop the location" (idk if it makes sense 😆)

viral stone Jul 3, 2023, 6:39 PM

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There's no promises around that

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AFAIK the logic is pretty fast at getting there

civic garden Jul 3, 2023, 6:43 PM

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Is it possible to download the beta version of Folia? Is there something like that? I would like to test this engine a bit, because it looks good

viral stone Jul 3, 2023, 6:44 PM

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You need to compile it yourself, same instructions as building paper, just with the folia repo

vernal wyvern Jul 4, 2023, 4:03 AM

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im using 1.20.1

fair merlin Jul 4, 2023, 4:03 AM

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@vernal wyvern Please reproduce with no plugins

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If it does look like an actual dupe, then open an exploit report using #869651180698099732

vernal wyvern Jul 4, 2023, 4:04 AM

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im not sure this all my plugins

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fair merlin Jul 4, 2023, 4:04 AM

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vernal wyvern

You have to disable all the plugins and reproduce it.

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If it doesn't happen again then it's a plugin.

vernal wyvern Jul 4, 2023, 4:05 AM

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idk all my plugins just for rtp and other thing joethinking

fair merlin Jul 4, 2023, 4:05 AM

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vernal wyvern idk all my plugins just for rtp and other thing <:joethinking:106049403868545853...

Stop server, temporarily turn off all plugins (rename plugins folder or something), then try to do it again.

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If it happens again with no plugins then record a video and post to #869651180698099732

tawdry gullBOT Jul 4, 2023, 6:12 AM

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⚠️ Please do not share any links to builds of Folia at this time. We are intentionally not providing easy to find/obtain downloads right now - when the time is right, everything will be available through official PaperMC distributions.

prime juniper Jul 4, 2023, 12:23 PM

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is folia's main branch in 1.20 or 1.20.1 now?

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I don't see a 1.20 dev branch

inner swift Jul 4, 2023, 12:23 PM

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.1

prime juniper Jul 4, 2023, 12:26 PM

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Is it unbuildable right now?

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red lintel Jul 4, 2023, 12:27 PM

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does multiverse work for folia or is there an alternative plugin?

prime juniper Jul 4, 2023, 12:27 PM

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I just did git clone https://github.com/PaperMC/Folia
and ./gradlew applyPatches and ./gradlew createReobfBundlerJar

GitHub

GitHub - PaperMC/Folia: Fork of Paper which adds regionised multith...

Fork of Paper which adds regionised multithreading to the dedicated server. - GitHub - PaperMC/Folia: Fork of Paper which adds regionised multithreading to the dedicated server.

viral stone Jul 4, 2023, 12:28 PM

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one would guess that apply patches failed

prime juniper Jul 4, 2023, 12:29 PM

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so it's not working right now

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ok

viral stone Jul 4, 2023, 12:29 PM

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red lintel does multiverse work for folia or is there an alternative plugin?

loading worlds at runtime is unsupported

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I mean, it works fine

prime juniper Jul 4, 2023, 12:29 PM

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wdym

viral stone Jul 4, 2023, 12:29 PM

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as for why it failed on your machine, try running applyPatches again and see what it says

prime juniper Jul 4, 2023, 12:29 PM

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but it wasn't even that that failed

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it was createreobfbundlerjar

viral stone Jul 4, 2023, 12:30 PM

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it failed because it expected some info that was there

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hence why I'm suspecting that the earlier operation may have failed, but, idk

prime juniper Jul 4, 2023, 12:30 PM

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I'm not a dev

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I don't have access to whatever property it's talking about

viral stone Jul 4, 2023, 12:31 PM

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that's not a matter of you not being a dev

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that's a matter of some information which is fetched as part of the build process missing

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the earlier steps should get that info, etc

prime juniper Jul 4, 2023, 12:31 PM

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I clicked on the error and it was a gradle error

viral stone Jul 4, 2023, 12:32 PM

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yes

prime juniper Jul 4, 2023, 12:32 PM

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https://docs.gradle.org/8.0.2/userguide/validation_problems.html#value_not_set

viral stone Jul 4, 2023, 12:32 PM

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gradle is throwing an error because the tooling didn't set some data

prime juniper Jul 4, 2023, 12:32 PM

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Assign a value to 'serverLibrariesList'.

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?

viral stone Jul 4, 2023, 12:32 PM

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No

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delete the folia folder

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reclone it, ideally into a folder directly on the top of the drive

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and then run applyPatches, make sure that that doesn't fail

prime juniper Jul 4, 2023, 12:33 PM

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wdym on top of the drive?

viral stone Jul 4, 2023, 12:33 PM

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directly onto C:/

prime juniper Jul 4, 2023, 12:33 PM

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I'm on linux

viral stone Jul 4, 2023, 12:33 PM

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oh, then that's not an issue

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reclone it and try again

prime juniper Jul 4, 2023, 12:34 PM

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ok

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It takes a while though

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nope it doesn't

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it failed

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oh it just wants to know who i am

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yeah

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it was totally my fault

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it worked now

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10 actionable tasks: 4 executed, 6 up-to-date
[panas@server Folia]$ ls
build             folia.png          gradlew      patch.bat               rb.bat           settings.gradle.kts
build-data        Folia-Server       gradlew.bat  patches                 README.md
build.gradle.kts  gradle             install.bat  PATCHES-LICENSE         REGION_LOGIC.md
Folia-API         gradle.properties  jar.bat      PROJECT_DESCRIPTION.md  regiontodo.txt
[panas@server Folia]$ cd Folia-
-bash: cd: Folia-: No such file or directory
[panas@server Folia]$ cd Folia-Server/
[panas@server Folia-Server]$ ls
build  build.gradle.kts  checkstyle.xml  LGPL.txt  LICENCE.txt  src
[panas@server Folia-Server]$ cd build
[panas@server build]$ ls
classes  generated  libs  publications  resources  tmp
[panas@server build]$ cd libs/
[panas@server libs]$ ls
folia-server-1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT-mojang-mapped.jar  folia-server-1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT-reobf.jar
[panas@server libs]$```
Wait so why do i have 2 jars?

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Which is the correct one?

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nope

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i'm dumb

bleak python Jul 4, 2023, 12:43 PM

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neither

prime juniper Jul 4, 2023, 12:43 PM

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i was looking in the wrong place

bleak python Jul 4, 2023, 12:43 PM

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yep

prime juniper Jul 4, 2023, 12:45 PM

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This jar worked. Is this a good jar? folia-bundler-1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT-reobf.jar

bleak python Jul 4, 2023, 12:46 PM

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from ./build/libs yeah

prime juniper Jul 4, 2023, 4:34 PM

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Are datapacks disabled as well as command blocks?

arctic tapir Jul 4, 2023, 4:34 PM

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yes

prime juniper Jul 4, 2023, 4:34 PM

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aww

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I tried folia today

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And I gotta say i'm really impressed

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No crashes

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and it's even faster even with a single region at ticking chickens

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even when it does lag it still responds to player input

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So you can get out of the situation

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30k chickens in one area, 0 lag in the other

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The tps was 1 in this region

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But somehow I could still break and place blocks, pickup items and move

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Literally 0 issues encountered

bleak python Jul 4, 2023, 4:40 PM

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i believe datapacks work, just datapack functions don't? haven't tried it myself

prime juniper Jul 4, 2023, 4:40 PM

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When I do /datapack it's red

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The whole command is gone

viral stone Jul 4, 2023, 4:40 PM

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people have been using some datapack stuff for world stuff

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the command being gone doesn't mean that the system was stripped

prime juniper Jul 4, 2023, 4:43 PM

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well how are you supposed to do it then?

viral stone Jul 4, 2023, 4:43 PM

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do what?

wicked mantle Jul 4, 2023, 4:44 PM

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You just put the datapack in and it'll be loaded on start. You don't need the command

haughty gale Jul 4, 2023, 9:36 PM

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is per-player-mob-spawns on by default or smth now?

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i cant find it in the config

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nvm found docs

haughty gale Jul 5, 2023, 1:13 AM

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put my prod on folia, tried shennandoah at the start with 110gb, kept crashing after a bit so went back to g1 and it's fine so far

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https://spark.lucko.me/7vYJoMQmue

spark

spark is a performance profiler for Minecraft clients, servers, and proxies.

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very interesting profile tho

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#

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how

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negative mspt

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this happens too even with shennandoah

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no lag shit's fine just, weird anomalies in the profile

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maybe i will make a article or something abt what it was like to move from paper to folia and shit i find

livid crag Jul 5, 2023, 1:23 AM

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Do encourage your players to report any weird/oddball stuff if they observe any.

haughty gale Jul 5, 2023, 1:24 AM

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it's only 60 rn i didnt announce that it was back up from downtime, waiting to see if itll crash or not

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i had to do sim distance of 4 on this same hardware with all mob limits other than animals set to zero and animals at like 8 to get 20 tps on paper with 200 players

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right now i have vanilla everything except the ambient and axolotls set to 0 bc who cares about them

livid crag Jul 5, 2023, 1:26 AM

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looks like your spike happens on interval too

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idk if that's something strange happening

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or just spark being weird PepeLa

haughty gale Jul 5, 2023, 1:28 AM

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probably

haughty gale Jul 5, 2023, 9:19 AM

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how

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20.13

paper siren Jul 5, 2023, 9:31 AM

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Read here #folia-dev message

tawdry gullBOT Jul 5, 2023, 10:55 AM

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Folia

Folia is a fork of Paper that adds multi-threaded region support. Many plugins will require updating to support Folia. There is no ETA for publicly available builds.

For more information:

Folia will:

NOT be backported to older versions <1.19.4
NOT be merged into Paper
NOT be ported to Fabric nor Forge

Stay tuned to #announcements for any further info about releases.

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⚠️ Please do not share any links to builds of Folia at this time. We are intentionally not providing easy to find/obtain downloads right now - when the time is right, everything will be available through official PaperMC distributions.

safe plover Jul 5, 2023, 10:56 AM

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tawdry gull

multi-thread region?

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whats that?

viral stone Jul 5, 2023, 10:56 AM

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See the readme, etc

prime juniper Jul 5, 2023, 10:59 AM

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Does Skript work on folia?

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Because it works on paper i figured it could

arctic tapir Jul 5, 2023, 10:59 AM

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ask them

prime juniper Jul 5, 2023, 10:59 AM

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???

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This is literally folia-help

arctic tapir Jul 5, 2023, 10:59 AM

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ask the skript people

prime juniper Jul 5, 2023, 10:59 AM

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why

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why not ask here

arctic tapir Jul 5, 2023, 10:59 AM

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because its their plugin

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and they have to support it

prime juniper Jul 5, 2023, 11:00 AM

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oh

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ok

arctic tapir Jul 5, 2023, 11:00 AM

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they dont support it

viral stone Jul 5, 2023, 11:00 AM

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We cannot tell you if random software on the internet works on our platforms

haughty gale Jul 5, 2023, 11:33 AM

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most regions fine but one at like 9 tps

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i go to the region and not special

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not a lot of entities or anything

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literally one chicken around where it tps me too and no players

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all of the 3 highest util regions are places where there's nothing like no players no entities etc

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is this because the server prioritises ticking regions with entities/players?

viral stone Jul 5, 2023, 11:37 AM

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No

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it's because that region is taking too long to tick

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with 87 players and 11k entities

haughty gale Jul 5, 2023, 11:41 AM

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yea but there's like

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nothing there

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when i tp, i was expecting like idk a farm or something

viral stone Jul 5, 2023, 11:41 AM

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Look at the info?

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A region is not a fixed size

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it's literally just giving you the centre coords of the region

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that region has 87 players inside of it

haughty gale Jul 5, 2023, 11:43 AM

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o :^)

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i wonder if possible to make it only have regions within a world border

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like chunky you know in the config

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are regions squares?

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or like they change all the time

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when u say not fixed size

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if there's like 102 ppl and 87 in a single region even tho theyre very spread out that means one region is way bigger compared to the rest no?

arctic tapir Jul 5, 2023, 11:59 AM

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regions are not the minecraft regions

arctic tapir Jul 5, 2023, 11:59 AM

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haughty gale if there's like 102 ppl and 87 in a single region even tho theyre very spread ou...

yes

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that’s why you want them spread out

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if they’re close together you’re better off using paper

viral stone Jul 5, 2023, 12:00 PM

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they're dynamically created by grouping chunks into regions

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if people get too close, the regions join one another

arctic tapir Jul 5, 2023, 12:01 PM

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iirc regions are basically bubbles

viral stone Jul 5, 2023, 12:01 PM

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given that you can't do stuff across regions, i.e. redstone, etc, etc; they have to by dynamic, etc; they could probably be smaller, but it creates a lot of complexity and performance overheads

arctic tapir Jul 5, 2023, 12:01 PM

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if 2 get too close they merge and become a big bubble

haughty gale Jul 5, 2023, 12:42 PM

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im guess its not configurable the settings that determine when regions merge

viral stone Jul 5, 2023, 12:43 PM

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no, it's low level implementation detail

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making it configurable would be a performance/bug nightmare

haughty gale Jul 5, 2023, 12:43 PM

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yea id imagine

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one thing i noticed

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X tps on folia doesnt feel like X tps on paper

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it feels less laggy

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big maps r way better now

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they spread out even just a tiny bit

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tps surges a by like 6 whole seconds

balmy isle Jul 5, 2023, 5:31 PM

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Hi, I heard about folia and I would like to try it but I have no idea where to download the jar file for version 1.20.1

arctic tapir Jul 5, 2023, 5:32 PM

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you compile it yourrself

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same steps as Paper

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paper's readme explains how

balmy isle Jul 5, 2023, 5:34 PM

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but I've already read the readme but I still don't understand how

timid grotto Jul 5, 2023, 5:34 PM

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did you read the paper readme or the folia readme?

viral stone Jul 5, 2023, 5:34 PM

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the paper readme says the commands you'd need, not the folia one

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just, you clone the folia repo instead of the paper one

balmy isle Jul 5, 2023, 5:37 PM

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I still don't get it.

livid crag Jul 5, 2023, 5:38 PM

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Which part you read, can you tell us

balmy isle Jul 5, 2023, 5:38 PM

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i downloaded from github folia readme.md

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i read it and still dont get it

timid grotto Jul 5, 2023, 5:39 PM

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you dont download the readme

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just open the paper readme, and follow the steps

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but clone the folia repo instead of the paper repo

daring nimbus Jul 5, 2023, 5:40 PM

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worth noting that Folia is very experimental and mostly aimed at developers right now. If you don't know how to build it, it probably isn't for you at this point

balmy isle Jul 5, 2023, 5:43 PM

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where do I find paper readme

daring nimbus Jul 5, 2023, 5:43 PM

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https://github.com/PaperMC/Paper

balmy isle Jul 5, 2023, 5:47 PM

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but where i need to change the repo

tiny gale Jul 5, 2023, 7:02 PM

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balmy isle but where i need to change the repo

do you have any idea on how to build a repo? or how github works?

tiny gale Jul 5, 2023, 7:02 PM

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daring nimbus worth noting that Folia is _very_ experimental and mostly aimed at developers ri...

as said here, this is aimed for developers, should NOT be used in prod.

haughty gale Jul 5, 2023, 9:51 PM

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balmy isle but where i need to change the repo

clone folia repo then follow paper readmes instructions it’s 2 commands to compile the jar

lost tiger Jul 5, 2023, 10:05 PM

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If you don’t know how to build folia you shouldn’t be using it

lament ravine Jul 5, 2023, 10:10 PM

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haughty gale they spread out even just a tiny bit

Which cpu is this running on?

haughty gale Jul 5, 2023, 10:14 PM

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7950x3d

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managed to get it to this

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they still need to spread out tho

lament ravine Jul 5, 2023, 10:15 PM

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Default config setup for paper-global.yml?

haughty gale Jul 5, 2023, 10:15 PM

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i only started working on this server after they launched, i was there before i would’ve used a bigger map

haughty gale Jul 5, 2023, 10:15 PM

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lament ravine Default config setup for paper-global.yml?

no

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which ones would u suggest changing tho

lament ravine Jul 5, 2023, 10:16 PM

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I added you rq so we don’t clog up this channel

spring patio Jul 5, 2023, 11:07 PM

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Hello, I have an AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 16-Core Processor, but the chunks on folia are not being created at all. I allocated for worker-threads: 13 threads, but it did not help me. The disk speed is normal. How can I fix this problem? I have 128gb DDR 5 RAM

fair merlin Jul 5, 2023, 11:07 PM

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spring patio Hello, I have an AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 16-Core Processor, but the chunks on folia ar...

You probably shouldn't be allocating so many threads to worker-threads

spring patio Jul 5, 2023, 11:09 PM

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fair merlin You probably shouldn't be allocating so many threads to worker-threads

How much should be allocated?

fair merlin Jul 5, 2023, 11:09 PM

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I mean if you just leave it as -1 it'll do it by itself

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But can you explain what you mean by "not being created at all"?

spring patio Jul 5, 2023, 11:09 PM

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Can I set it to -1 for everything?

spring patio Jul 5, 2023, 11:10 PM

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fair merlin But can you explain what you mean by "not being created at all"?

Not generated at all

fair merlin Jul 5, 2023, 11:10 PM

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Like you're standing there and it's a void?

spring patio Jul 5, 2023, 11:10 PM

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Already generated chunks are loaded normally, but new ones are not

spring patio Jul 5, 2023, 11:10 PM

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fair merlin Like you're standing there and it's a void?

Yes

fair merlin Jul 5, 2023, 11:10 PM

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Probably need a spark report.

spring patio Jul 5, 2023, 11:10 PM

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Unfortunately spark does not work on folia 1.20.1 😦

fair merlin Jul 5, 2023, 11:10 PM

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Yes it does.

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Is it a dedicated machine running a 7950X?

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Not like a VPS or something?

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Not a Windows machine?

spring patio Jul 5, 2023, 11:11 PM

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Yes, I have it in my house

spring patio Jul 5, 2023, 11:11 PM

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fair merlin Not a Windows machine?

Debian 11

fair merlin Jul 5, 2023, 11:12 PM

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https://github.com/lucko/spark/tree/feat/folia

GitHub

spark/ at feat/folia · lucko/spark

A performance profiler for Minecraft clients, servers, and proxies. - spark/ at feat/folia · lucko/spark

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You have to build it, but there's a folia branch of Spark.

spring patio Jul 5, 2023, 11:13 PM

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I've done this before. There's an error

arctic tapir Jul 5, 2023, 11:13 PM

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there's a pr

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with a jar

fair merlin Jul 5, 2023, 11:14 PM

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spring patio I've done this before. There's an error

As cas said, go through the PRs and find the one with the jar in it.

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It definitely works on 1.20.1

spring patio Jul 5, 2023, 11:14 PM

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Yes, I saw it. There's a mistake there

fair merlin Jul 5, 2023, 11:14 PM

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I'm running it.

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As are others.

arctic tapir Jul 5, 2023, 11:15 PM

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https://github.com/lucko/spark/files/11859192/spark-bukkit-folia-mc1.20.jar.zip

spring patio Jul 5, 2023, 11:15 PM

#

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Such an error is always

#

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Problems only with generation

pseudo ibex Jul 5, 2023, 11:43 PM

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spring patio

Spark 1.20 doesn’t seem to be working. Not even the profiler works

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At least from the jar from Luck I saw and tried.

keen fable Jul 5, 2023, 11:52 PM

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The wrong jar was uploaded. Compiling the branch works fine, just pick the right jar

spring patio Jul 6, 2023, 12:02 AM

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keen fable The wrong jar was uploaded. Compiling the branch works fine, just pick the right...

Yes, you're right. I'll send the spark profiler right away

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https://spark.lucko.me/SkHqbq7G8v

spark

spark is a performance profiler for Minecraft clients, servers, and proxies.

arctic tapir Jul 6, 2023, 12:08 AM

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this is folia help

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not kaiiju

spring patio Jul 6, 2023, 12:08 AM

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Okay, I'll repeat it in Folia

arctic tapir Jul 6, 2023, 12:09 AM

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how tf do you get negative mspt

fair merlin Jul 6, 2023, 12:09 AM

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Why are you running a fork of Folia anyway?

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What does a fork of Folia even have that would make sense to run it?

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Folia is like 3 months old.

spring patio Jul 6, 2023, 12:09 AM

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fair merlin What does a fork of Folia even have that would make sense to run it?

Linear region format

fair merlin Jul 6, 2023, 12:09 AM

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No idea what that is.

inner swift Jul 6, 2023, 12:09 AM

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arctic tapir how tf do you get negative mspt

I've seen this in a few Folia sparks, curious what it is

spring patio Jul 6, 2023, 12:09 AM

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fair merlin Jul 6, 2023, 12:10 AM

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Anyway we only support Folia here, yeah. So I guess feel free to see if the issue happens on Folia. If you're using something which messes with Folia regions I wouldn't be surprised that you're seeing weird behavior.

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If that fork has some support Discord maybe ask them.

spring patio Jul 6, 2023, 12:15 AM

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The usual folia has the same problem

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https://spark.lucko.me/YHKmYaMzs4

spark

spark is a performance profiler for Minecraft clients, servers, and proxies.

fair merlin Jul 6, 2023, 12:17 AM

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spring patio The usual folia has the same problem

You see the same issue? You're standing on a chunk edge and chunks aren't generating?

spring patio Jul 6, 2023, 12:17 AM

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Yes

fair merlin Jul 6, 2023, 12:17 AM

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And you have no plugins installed?

spring patio Jul 6, 2023, 12:18 AM

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viral stone Jul 6, 2023, 12:18 AM

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does increasing the view distance do anything?

fair merlin Jul 6, 2023, 12:18 AM

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Weird that it's not showing plugins in the spark report

viral stone Jul 6, 2023, 12:18 AM

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can you walk into those chunks?

spring patio Jul 6, 2023, 12:18 AM

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I had seven. I set it to 3, but the problem didn't go away

spring patio Jul 6, 2023, 12:19 AM

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viral stone can you walk into those chunks?

I can, but I can't move around there

viral stone Jul 6, 2023, 12:19 AM

#

er

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that doesn't look like a valid folia version

spring patio Jul 6, 2023, 12:20 AM

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I generated it using github actions

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https://github.com/ImNotSoftik/Folia/actions/runs/5433764821

GitHub

Merge branch 'PaperMC:master' into master · ImNotSoftik/Folia@e2818a2

Fork of Paper which adds regionised multithreading to the dedicated server. - Merge branch 'PaperMC:master' into master · ImNotSoftik/Folia@e2818a2

fair merlin Jul 6, 2023, 12:21 AM

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That's running Github actions on a repo that isn't our repo, though.

keen fable Jul 6, 2023, 12:22 AM

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dont post kaiiju issues on folia discord pls <3

fair merlin Jul 6, 2023, 12:22 AM

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Which has other patches too.

spring patio Jul 6, 2023, 12:22 AM

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fair merlin That's running Github actions on a repo that isn't our repo, though.

fair merlin Jul 6, 2023, 12:22 AM

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spring patio

Yes but it's their fork, there are changes in it.

spring patio Jul 6, 2023, 12:23 AM

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Okay, I'm going to run it without change

viral stone Jul 6, 2023, 12:23 AM

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doesn't look like theres any changes between that fork and us that would be relevant from a first glance, but 🤷‍♂️

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I generally like it when stuff actually lines up with our software

fair merlin Jul 6, 2023, 12:23 AM

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Yeah it might not be anything major

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But yeah, when testing big weird shit would be good to have an actual build of our stuff.

viral stone Jul 6, 2023, 12:24 AM

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a small view distance will cause some potential side effects with the calculated settings for some stuff

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I'd probs try setting values form the advanced chunk system stuff

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otherwise, idk

fair merlin Jul 6, 2023, 12:24 AM

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I mean that linear region stuff could definitely be the cause of chunks not loading.

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Becuase it's gotta compress and decompress stuff.

fair merlin Jul 6, 2023, 12:25 AM

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spring patio

Also re-run with spark with --threads *

pseudo ibex Jul 6, 2023, 12:25 AM

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keen fable The wrong jar was uploaded. Compiling the branch works fine, just pick the right...

Thanks!

fair merlin Jul 6, 2023, 12:25 AM

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I dunno if that fork is going to mess with the world at all which might make testing on Folia invalid, but worth a shot at least.

spring patio Jul 6, 2023, 12:26 AM

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I will now reset the world and put Folia absolutely unchanged

fair merlin Jul 6, 2023, 12:26 AM

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Yeah that's the best test. If you can reproduce there and run spark with --threads * then can look

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How far out did you need to get before chunks stopped loading?

spring patio Jul 6, 2023, 12:27 AM

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Good

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At about 100 players, it's starting to happen

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However, there are no problems with loading already created chunks

fair merlin Jul 6, 2023, 12:29 AM

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Real players or bots?

spring patio Jul 6, 2023, 12:30 AM

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fair merlin Real players or bots?

bots

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bots that just stand still

arctic tapir Jul 6, 2023, 12:30 AM

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are they spread out

spring patio Jul 6, 2023, 12:30 AM

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100k bloks

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random spawn

arctic tapir Jul 6, 2023, 12:30 AM

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screenshot /tps

fair merlin Jul 6, 2023, 12:30 AM

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Yeah, get a screenshot of tps along with the spark report.

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Make sure to run with --threads *

spring patio Jul 6, 2023, 12:31 AM

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ok

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https://spark.lucko.me/WbGdeZO1f4

spark

spark is a performance profiler for Minecraft clients, servers, and proxies.

viral stone Jul 6, 2023, 12:36 AM

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gen rate

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SUSmane

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idk how that's calculted, but, I just kinda wonder if you're in a bad luck position where others are overburdening the chunk gen stuff as-is

fair merlin Jul 6, 2023, 12:37 AM

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spring patio ok

Can you paste the Paper config?

viral stone Jul 6, 2023, 12:37 AM

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annd missing thread info

fair merlin Jul 6, 2023, 12:37 AM

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And yeah need thread info.

spring patio Jul 6, 2023, 12:37 AM

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https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/60e959f718b04aea9aa8a56d4a303f0a

spring patio Jul 6, 2023, 12:38 AM

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fair merlin And yeah need thread info.

I set it to -1 everywhere.

viral stone Jul 6, 2023, 12:38 AM

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I mean in spark

fair merlin Jul 6, 2023, 12:38 AM

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^

spring patio Jul 6, 2023, 12:38 AM

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Should I have installed this?

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/spark profiler --threads *

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I ran it like this

viral stone Jul 6, 2023, 12:39 AM

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apparently it didn't accept the threads arg

fair merlin Jul 6, 2023, 12:39 AM

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Oh

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It's --thread *

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Not threads

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That's my bad.

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No s