folia-testing

[vale panther]

lol

[trim eagle]

what is this

[grave swan]

what is folia?

[leaden summit]

the copium

[dusk osprey]

am i the only one who don't know the IP?

[nova shale]

Did you make it?

[fossil notch]

thats alot

[frail saffron]

chunks not loading lul

[finite jolt]

server is full

[uneven night]

:D

[vale panther]

it's explained right in the anouncement

[soft onyx]

its really slow

[burnt quartz]

everything is going perfectly fine ✨

[nova shale]

normal. coz of the joins

[soft onyx]

spread players

[tropic grail]

lel it's dead already

[nova vector]

You learn to wait your turn on chunks pretty fast

[grave swan]

"This is a test for the new software"

[dense sapphire]

The test server was with whitelist, I try to enter again and now it is full

[soft onyx]

spread players

[vernal orchid]

/tps kicks you for chat message lol

[outer jay]

its coping alright

[surreal bloom]

so @uneven solstice where you at?

[burnt quartz]

skill issue

[outer jay]

I can actually break blocks, impressive.

[burnt quartz]

read announcement

[frail saffron]

increase max concurrent sends pls

[terse lance]

1.19.3?

[tranquil lava]

Yes.

[junior jetty]

Announcement doesn't explain anything

[vale panther]

#announcements message

[tranquil lava]

1.19.3

[terse lance]

Thanks

[tropic grail]

are any of you guys near 43k -91k? i don't know how to get back to spawn

[karmic geode]

just dont walk 🙄

[fossil notch]

LET ME PLAY WINDOWS

[vale panther]

#announcements message

[brave glacier]

New server project that scales well on more cores. Will NOT be a drop-in replacement for Paper, plugins will have to adapt

[uneven solstice]

-57k / -90k and I still have my stuff from yesterday

[surreal bloom]

There's a huge spawn radius

[vernal orchid]

dear god don't re-op jroy

[nova vector]

do not re-op jroy

[surreal bloom]

only 40km, coming

[soft onyx]

i brokew it

[timid solar]

MULTITHREADED MULTIPLAYER

[nova vector]

Folia essentially splits up the world into regions that all tick independently of each other

[timid solar]

HOLY SHIT

[dark cave]

Give us the TPS commands :C

[timid solar]

THE HYPE IS INSURMOUNTABLE

[fossil notch]

everything runs at once instead of one at a time

[lapis turtle]

kek

[halcyon knoll]

so what're we testing for?

[terse lance]

stress testing lol

[nova shale]

play survial

[tropic grail]

how many players are online currently?

[nova shale]

get some woon

250

[light solar]

tps?

[restive flame]

what version?

[uneven solstice]

400 viewers on stream lol

[wanton oyster]

what's folia?

[vale panther]

if you're not familiar with what "single" or "multi" thread is, there isn't really a way to explain that.
The most simplistic explanation that i can give is, Better performance with lower clock & higher core CPUs

[halcyon knoll]

is this a potential successor to paper if the tests are successful?

[summer coyote]

u should spread players

nvm

[outer jay]

lol

[brave glacier]

It's a list of TPSes for now, up to 250 or so (as there's 250 players on)

[surreal bloom]

Players are spread around a huge area, yes

[primal nova]

I want to chat :(

[ashen grotto]

What is Foila

[fresh topaz]

hows netdata chillin?

[surreal bloom]

Read announcements

[ashen grotto]

Where can I go read about Foila

[fossil notch]

pins (shrimple as that)

[fading wedge]

#announcements

[ashen grotto]

Oh im blind

[brave glacier]

There's a very long way to go, and most plugins will need to adapt

[frigid night]

Looks incredible

[outer jay]

my chunks are already loaded so hah

[zenith crypt]

I got coal nice xD

[true rampart]

we disabled chat in a bit of a scuffed way

[summer coyote]

lmao it takes forever to respawn

[true rampart]

so chat signing might interfere there @cosmic ruin

pins

[true rampart]

chunk gen

[manic ruin]

what version

[wide shell]

WHAT IS FOLIA

[true rampart]

1.19.3

[nova shale]

@sour token use <#ID> ID being voice ID

[wet umbra]

oh

[grave swan]

seems pretty nice though while all of these chunks are struggling to load everything else is working

[vale panther]

20.08, pogs

[fossil notch]

same

[craggy gull]

You guys are brilliant how do you solve redstone ticking across chunks? Wouldn't that be problematic?

[true rampart]

see the region gist @craggy gull

[dawn trellis]

[round umbra]

this feels so strange to play, lol

[wide shell]

WHAT IS FOLIA

[round umbra]

chunks unable to generate, but the one you're in works fine

[brave glacier]

#announcements

[nova shale]

the future of Minecraft. Threaded region

[round umbra]

multithreaded multiplayer server

[outer jay]

it put me on an island in the ocean feelsbadman

[dawn trellis]

async minecraft

[grave swan]

is this a fork of paper?

[primal nova]

So is this going to paper?

[native kestrel]

hey this isnt actually horrible

[dawn trellis]

in 3 years yes

[fossil notch]

its named!?!?

[brave glacier]

No

[quasi quarry]

is the server rc1 or rc2?

[uneven night]

tpa's not working :sadge:

[brave glacier]

Yes

[true rampart]

1.19.3

[nova vector]

oh god I'm still in the middle of an ocean from last time

[pale spindle]

Good work guys, thought Minestom would be the only option for async MC, good to see more mainstream and viable solutions ❤️

[vale panther]

1.19.3

[carmine thorn]

Can someone explain what folia is

[quasi quarry]

oh lol

[dawn trellis]

#announcements

[round umbra]

about folia in the announcements channel:
#announcements message

the message above the ping

[eternal kestrel]

What kind of hardware is this test running on?

[vale panther]

pinned messages

[primal nova]

Ok, so will there be spigot/bukkit plugin support for folia?

[karmic geode]

pins

[eternal kestrel]

LMAO

[fossil notch]

anyone want to meet somewhere?

ok

[calm tiger]

What is this software for?

[civic laurel]

https://sirkillian.gg/i/nen8oaxewtng7e3x.png horrible server, unplayable

[brave glacier]

No, plugins have to adapt. The amount of change needed in their code will vary

[thick echo]

Stuck in darkness

[fossil notch]

im 45k blocks from spawn

[steel zenith]

who killed Kenny?

[narrow stump]

anyone near 4k -99k?

[vale panther]

announcements, above the ping

[fresh topaz]

@nova shale got netdata screenshot?

[summer coyote]

spawn radius is extremely large

[fresh topaz]

(sry 4 ping)

[surreal bloom]

intended

[rotund coral]

2tb?

[primal nova]

ah ok

[round umbra]

block updates stopped?

[frail saffron]

💀

[summer coyote]

anyone near -20k -100k?

[true rampart]

mob caps are per region

[fossil notch]

im at -90k z xis

[vale panther]

does the server have issue on joining or is it just me?

[blissful charm]

this does not really work for me 😦

[hasty lava]

What is this

[manic ruin]

server is full

[fossil notch]

I had to wait like 10 seconds to join

[hasty lava]

Anyone can tell me?

[surreal bloom]

Needs to generate chunks first

[slim girder]

i cant respawn lol

[round umbra]

impressive

[surreal bloom]

Needs to generate chunks first, takes a while

[summer coyote]

im about 101,980 blocks from spawn

[hasty lava]

Hi! What is Folia?

[surreal bloom]

Read announcements

[dawn trellis]

see #announcements

[round umbra]

async mc server

[hasty lava]

Ty

[nova vector]

Since spawns are spread over the entire world you gotta gen chunks first and you're waiting in a line since so many chunks are being genned

[manic ruin]

im stck on joining world

[native kestrel]

it freezes when i go past loaded chunks but all other features work

[nova shale]

[round umbra]

my chunk is frozen

[ornate smelt]

man where the hell is coal

[brave glacier]

Amazing

[surreal bloom]

Wait for chunks to generate

[summer coyote]

wait

[blissful charm]

it is pretty bad when i generaate new chunks but if i chill at the same spot everything is alright

i can build and destroy

[nova shale]

this is Paper Staff only.

[round umbra]

i don't mean generation

[surreal bloom]

Not on this public test

[eternal kestrel]

So this is still accurate, right? This is the hardware on this test happening right now?

[nova shale]

world is NOT pregenerated. This is crazY GOOD

yes

[tropic grail]

everything is frozen for me lol

[tranquil lava]

Yes

[nimble glen]

What is the ip?

[icy sinew]

Is keepinventory still on?

[manic ruin]

i cant get chunks to load

[uneven solstice]

yes

[eternal kestrel]

Vultr, good choice

[narrow tide]

My observation

• chunks take ages to generate on account of new players joining every second
• server is running at full speed in chunks once they load

[vale panther]

what's the bottleneck? is it CPU?

[fossil notch]

5.5k 😭 😭

[surreal bloom]

For the third time - wait

[blissful charm]

yes you are right

[nova shale]

player join event takes priority to get their chunks.

[round umbra]

everything in my chunk isn't working anymore, lol

can break blocks, grass and vines stay

[fossil notch]

everything in my chunk is

[west bane]

Whats the cpu utlilization of the root server currently?

[round umbra]

it was working but has stopped for the past few mins

[fossil notch]

scroll

[dawn trellis]

monkaw

[molten bison]

[keen ginkgo]

java moment

[dense sapphire]

wat

[eternal kestrel]

Ah yes

250 players, 2TB of RAM

[true rampart]

hook it up to the minesuperior proxy aswell

[nova shale]

yes

[primal nova]

what kind of goofy ah terrain generation is this?

[lofty mauve]

Casually breaking the world record of amount of players on one server >:D

[eternal kestrel]

Record is 1400

[fossil notch]

mr beast did that at like 1k

[tropic grail]

i can't join, i'm stuck on "joining world"

[blissful charm]

it is super smooth as long i dont generate new chunks. This is insane

[paper topaz]

if you're on syscraft you deserve a veterans license

[eternal kestrel]

Oh Mr. Beast, right, even higher now

[surreal bloom]

Wait for chunks to load

[drowsy latch]

Lmfao. That is how much all four of my machines have lmfao. I have a QuantaPlex T42S-2U

[lost acorn]

what is this

folia

[surreal bloom]

Read announcements

[finite jolt]

-Xmx?

[native kestrel]

dynmap would be cool if it worked on folia

[vernal orchid]

MrBeast's implementation ("Vortex") is a ton of servers with a special plugin to emulate players across servers. This is 300 all on one single instance.

[paper topaz]

nay Use me as a nay button

[tranquil lava]

Yeah, having everything on one box is the benefit of this.

[arctic cove]

wheres this stream anyway

[fossil notch]

cool af

[tranquil lava]

Previously having even a huge server wouldn't really get you anything.

[dawn trellis]

leaf's twitch i think

[manic ruin]

phh

[round umbra]

goodbye server 😭

[thick echo]

Server closed?

[native kestrel]

server down

[karmic geode]

rip

[round gyro]

it died

[eternal kestrel]

Yogscast did 2622 in 2011 lol

[fossil notch]

bruh

[sturdy marlin]

rip

[remote spade]

Bruh I joined and it closed

[soft onyx]

yay concurrency woo

[dense sapphire]

F

[dawn trellis]

lmaoo

[narrow coyote]

🏆

[lapis turtle]

rip

[keen ginkgo]

oop

[wide shell]

LOL

[pliant mortar]

this confirms it, leaf's patch doesn't work

[dawn trellis]

true

[vernal orchid]

and this is why we test 😛

[tranquil lava]

Standby! Fixing crash.

[drowsy latch]

It's over.

He's Toast.

[blissful charm]

is this the future of paper or is this something else?

[arctic cove]

found it thanks

[vernal orchid]

this is also why this isn't public yet lol

[surreal bloom]

Fork of Paper

[brave glacier]

Separate project

[soft onyx]

this means nothing

[halcyon knoll]

Is there even a way to merge Folia into Paper or vise-versa? Or at least a compatibility layer for Bukkit/Spigot/Paper-built plugins? This could significantly increase server performance (and massively change hardware requirements) but I worry that a lot of plugin devs may give up if migrating is a large job.

[thick echo]

Huh, why do I get a much more sensible error message?

[zenith crypt]

I didn't find the treasure chest in time 😢

[arctic cove]

no it is a separate project

[surreal bloom]

With plugin compat impossible

[arctic cove]

it breaks every plugin

[agile kelp]

https://i.imgur.com/SkImFbe.png

[vernal orchid]

it's very explicitly seperate, and has no intention of ever merging

[tranquil lava]

Folia is a fork of Paper.

But you'll have to redo plugins to work for Folia specifically.

[raw mural]

lef fix server

[blissful charm]

will it be merged with paper? what separate project is this?

[manic ruin]

what storage devices does it use

[fossil notch]

"it hased to save ALL the chunks" sqlite to the rescue!!!

[surreal bloom]

specs are pinned

[remote spade]

Just ctrl c it destroy the chunks

[agile kelp]

nice ad

[brave glacier]

It won't, at least for now. This project's name is called Folia

[daring rover]

with what -Xmx value does the server run?

[halcyon knoll]

She's back

[paper topaz]

if you want the jar go to #paper-dev and press ctrl + r

[dawn trellis]

2T

[cosmic fern]

Already done now 😂 With prime

[manic ruin]

in

[uneven night]

when JRoy talk show?

[digital willow]

lol

[fossil notch]

they shared it in paper chan server I think

[dawn sluice]

Raid Level and storage backend?

[remote spade]

4 chunks !

[plucky otter]

What is folia?

[graceful kite]

dual core (literally) minecraft

[echo bear]

we killed auth servers

lovely

[daring rover]

chan server?

[dense sapphire]

https://gyazo.com/8b4e77b8ae3d582d2487b61ca2dc5c3f ah, yes...

[tranquil lava]

See #announcements

[marble cloak]

Chunks loaded very fast here

[surreal bloom]

read announcements

[dawn trellis]

#announcements

[nova shale]

vanilla client moment

[uneven night]

uhh yes

[outer jay]

Had a decoder exception when joining just now btw

[hollow nebula]

I will say the chunk loading was very slow

[daring rover]

and not vanilla too

[tranquil lava]

Q: What is Folia?

A: #announcements message

[true bay]

Would stuff like tpa work with foila sperating chunks

[echo bear]

image encoding incorrect; client bug

[dense sapphire]

Fabric with optimization mods 👀

[sage wave]

got that same exact thing

[plucky otter]

Ok ty guys

[quick tartan]

Kamillaova sussy baka

[halcyon knoll]

Is there any technical way that they could be merged? I say could, I don't think they should.

[icy bear]

-keeps getting kicked for chat validation failure-

-cannot even chat-

[round umbra]

everything will break

[surreal bloom]

if you want plugins to keep working - no

[karmic geode]

im curious on the network throughput on the test server

[nova shale]

home crafted WITHOUT NoChatREport (most popular modpack added it for no reason!) https://modrinth.com/modpack/kami-chan-optimized-plus

[brave glacier]

Chat is disabled

[idle thorn]

aYO

[earnest wagon]

what is folia?

[vale panther]

Pinned

[surreal bloom]

read announcements

[icy bear]

I gathered that but I'm still getting kicked for validation failure XD

[sage wave]

oh hi

[paper topaz]

What is Fiola?

In geography, My World
In history, My King
In mathematics, My Solution
In mythology, My God
In astronomy, My universe
For The Blind, It's Light
For The Hungry, It's Bread
For The Poor, Wealth
For Me, Everything

Upvote if you cried

[vale panther]

do we have a bot to auto-reply to "what is folia" messages

[dawn trellis]

clearly not

[blissful charm]

soo how does this work with redstone? especially when redstone is between two separate regions?

[surreal bloom]

we have logical thinking

[fossil notch]

what is folia (no cap)

[languid zodiac]

mhm i see

[idle thorn]

ok ima ask a stupid question, what is the ip

[round umbra]

hax, get banned

[foggy jewel]

ip is rt.spottedleaf.io

[surreal bloom]

regions join together

[surreal bloom]

read announcements

[round umbra]

the one in #announcements

[fading wedge]

Gonna end up needing an auto response for all the “what is folia”

[zenith crypt]

I found a diamond 😄

[round umbra]

everyone asks what is folia, but never how is folia 😢

[lament pasture]

😫

[fading wedge]

What about why

[round umbra]

why is easy

[tranquil lava]

Haha I put it in the pins :)

[manic ruin]

put it on cracked and ill give u way more

[tranquil lava]

rt.spottedleaf.io is the server address

[stray tartan]

Spambots are not a useful test

[surreal bloom]

nobody is going to read that

[humble orchid]

Missed the message prior about Folia but I am excited to see what kinds of gains can be had from this

[tranquil lava]

Reading is for suckers!

[tranquil lava]

No thanks!

[stray tartan]

Yes, by breaking all the PVP plugins so you don't have to play anymore

[eternal kestrel]

Was the server actually using the entire 2TB of memory, or was that just allocated to the JVM and not actually being used entirely?

[lament pasture]

If and when Folia does come out. I bet everyone is gonna want me to support it lol. I’m just sitting here preparing myself how the api might be implemented lmao

[worldly blaze]

curious regarding the nature of this test, are the chunks pre-generated or are they being generated as we mess around?

[sick raptor]

what are the server specs

[halcyon elbow]

😭

[surreal bloom]

it's how Java works

[round umbra]

is this instance just for this test?

[stray tartan]

iirc the JVM heap size was 512GB

[surreal bloom]

generated rn

[eternal kestrel]

Not even an answer, thanks

[surreal bloom]

read pins

[stray tartan]

It was using like 4GB when someone was showing that

[uneven solstice]

they are not pregenerated, which is why chunk gen is kinda the bottle neck

[sick raptor]

damn

[worldly blaze]

wow, this is absolutely insane then

[true rampart]

we're not even using 1 of the CPUs

[worldly blaze]

this tech is so overpowered

[sick raptor]

it can actually use more slower cores

[dawn trellis]

1 one
thanks michael

[nimble glen]

future is here lol

[stray tartan]

EPYC is actually useful with this 😛

[spring light]

What CPU we on?

[stray tartan]

So long as your players aren't building a town together

[round umbra]

specs in pins

[true rampart]

2x 7713 @spring light

[compact mountain]

[spring light]

That's a nice cpu

[echo bear]

what does chat disabled in client options mean

[true rampart]

the server is taskset to specific cpus to avoid hyper threading & the second CPU for NUMA penalties

[fossil notch]

I remember an anarchy server where that legitimately happened with like 50+ people who never met before and it was so fun

[honest thunder]

$5k server

[true rampart]

chat is disabled atm

[echo bear]

oh

[sick raptor]

any tabtps or such

[echo bear]

well you have my IP now

[sick raptor]

or way to view stats on server performance

[surreal bloom]

@echo bear where you at

[echo bear]

spawn

[carmine depot]

dude has more ram than most people have storage 💀

[dawn trellis]

leaf's chunk system is bad for folia

[civic laurel]

hello michael give us some food thanks

[outer jay]

yeah chunk loading is pain, would be better if more people were grouped together

[uneven night]

let's rewrite the chunk system :trollface:

[nimble glen]

Can I tp to you oskar? 😄

[sick raptor]

didnt chunk gen get buffed to scale to like 256 threads?

[surreal bloom]

the spawn radius is literally so huge you could be 50km away

[soft onyx]

i died

[nova shale]

whats your name?

[outer jay]

Im surprised how smooth entity ticks are

[halcyon knoll]

If you want people to pre-gen the world, give us all /fly or give us all elytras and fireworks

[soft onyx]

but i cant respawn

[nimble glen]

anyone at spawn I can tpa 🙂

[spring light]

Are there any commands IG?
tried /tps already

[round umbra]

chunk gen isn't the test

[echo bear]

-49772.12 72.00 -91644.29 230.70 5.10

[surreal bloom]

wait for chunks to generate, takes a while

[eternal kestrel]

What does the utilization represent? I assume it's something like a calculation of how the server is performing / how the server could theoretically be performing

[soft onyx]

i got kicked

[magic ether]

do it do it do it

[soft onyx]

"an error occured with your connection"

[wind bison]

I'm curious to see how much bandwidth this server is currently using with 300+ players

[blissful charm]

give us food pls

[drowsy latch]

Is this impl written fresh or is it on top of Paper or smth?

[surreal bloom]

104km ,sorry not coming XD

[dawn trellis]

paper fork

[sick raptor]

server is dead alread, chunks take like 10m to load

[true rampart]

likely not much since people are spread

[true rampart]

no

[nova shale]

who need food? at me for your names!

[echo bear]

we need pl3xmap!

[true rampart]

chunk generation & system bottleneck

[nimble glen]

sounds like an you issue tho

[dusk osprey]

will we be able to customize how many blcoks/chunks will define each region PER world?

[true rampart]

the actual server itself is doing fine

[surreal bloom]

@nova shale i'd like 20 mc nuggies

[oblique stratus]

whats a folia

[halcyon knoll]

Yeah, but once chunks are generated, a second test can be run to find the "true" TPS and usage of a more real-world scenario

[dawn trellis]

@oblique stratus read #announcements

[surreal bloom]

pins

[soft onyx]

now i cant rejoin

[brazen sky]

Whats the specs of the testing server?

[sick raptor]

ah yes. chunks

[echo bear]

server is running suprisingly well

[dawn trellis]

pins

[dawn sluice]

100% is full usage of one thread. 1800% = 18 threads full load

[echo bear]

no lag

[round umbra]

chunk gen isn't linked to the tps

[burnt quartz]

[pale spindle]

The Folia experience:
1.8: "The server requires 1.13+" (paraphrase)
1.13.2: "Outdated Client! Please use 1.19.3"

[brazen sky]

That seems absurd

[soft onyx]

my account is fucked

[native kestrel]

i died and now im in an abyss nvm

[dusk osprey]

🤓

[zinc thunder]

how does it scale if you gave less threads?

[narrow stump]

https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-epyc-7713

of CPU Cores 64

of Threads 128

Max. Boost Clock Up to 3.675GHz
Base Clock 2.0GHz

1kU Pricing 7,060 USD

damn that's nice

[oblique stratus]

ohhh it's an independent religion where Chuck gets a tick pool

[gritty bobcat]

ah yes, world

[surreal bloom]

wait fo rchunks to generate

[dawn trellis]

religion lol

[oblique stratus]

not sure why he'd want a pool of ticks

[brazen sky]

350 players with 2 TB of ram seems easy lol

[oblique stratus]

but it sounds cool

[eternal kestrel]

I thought the server was running on 128 threads or something ridiculous, is it limited to only 18?

[native kestrel]

keep inventory is on?

[drowsy latch]

How come this isn't just next gen of Paper, why has it got it's own name?

[slim girder]

how are people finding people

[vale panther]

RAM doesn't really matter in this case, they're trying multi threading

[pale spindle]

🙂

[surreal bloom]

because it breaks plugins

[fossil notch]

when can mojang just contract paper to make vanilla server

[oblique stratus]

gotta fold ya paper
fold ya = folia
duh

[sturdy marlin]

where is everyone

[eternal kestrel]

Experimental, in development, will break existing plugins, other shiny buzzwords

[dawn trellis]

everywhere

[surreal bloom]

accurate name

[soft onyx]

my game refuses to connect now

[round umbra]

ty for hat

[echo bear]

ah yes, truly a paper supporter

[fossil notch]

😭

[echo bear]

not sure why i got that

[burnt quartz]

/give

[soft onyx]

who has perms

[wind bison]

This is really impressive, well done team.

[soft onyx]

.

i cant join now

[past sand]

hmm, can't seem to rejoin

[surreal bloom]

join and wait for chunks to generate, may take a while

[manic ruin]

the chunks im in are lagging kinda bad

[vale panther]

chunk generation limits

[past sand]

nah it disconnects me

[manic ruin]

i estimate like 10-15 tps

[past sand]

i'll send a screenshot

[manic ruin]

chunks are all loaded

[oblique stratus]

okay so how do I join

[manic ruin]

its mobs and stuff moving slow

[surreal bloom]

Address in announcements

[vale panther]

they're not pregenerated, it's just having a bad time generating for 300 players

[outer jay]

aw they already murdered the dragon 😦

[true rampart]

for whoever asked how much bandwidth it's using

top is incoming

[neat fossil]

yeah these chunks are NOT loading

[true rampart]

bottom outbound

[boreal lake]

Where can I find out what Folia is?

[manic ruin]

i just said my chunks are all loaded

[wind bison]

Wow, thats really impressive

[soft onyx]

somethings going on

[remote spade]

L

[brave mango]

rip

[dense sapphire]

F

[nimble glen]

kicked

[lunar zephyr]

L

[wide shell]

bruih

[sturdy marlin]

noooooo

[native kestrel]

rip

[manic ruin]

lllll

[neat fossil]

F

[pale spindle]

ah, that might be why chunks loaded slowly

[dawn sluice]

That's nothing tbh

[median vector]

f

[echo bear]

lmao

[lone thorn]

bye

[unreal kestrel]

Oops :)

[remote spade]

I almost finished my nether portal 😦

[brave glacier]

#announcements , above ping

[lone thorn]

oops

[sour token]

Time to stretch and drink =^]

[pliant mortar]

this confirms it, leaf's patch doesn't work

[lone thorn]

also it seems to be 00:37

[old badge]

Wait there was 300 people on the server?

[fresh topaz]

how big is the map? @true rampart 😂

[lone thorn]

oops

[unreal kestrel]

Seemed pretty smooth once the chunks were generated, nice job

[vale panther]

@karmic geode (you asked for this)

[echo bear]

good advert for velocity though too haha

[dawn trellis]

this also confirms his chunk system is the bottleneck

[round gyro]

WHERES OKIEE I MISS YOU ALREADY

[ornate smelt]

rip my little house

[tranquil lava]

Standy (again)! Re-starting server.

[dense sapphire]

I was finishing the stairs of my multi-wood house 😭

[hallow belfry]

Rip the hay bales I raided

[manic ruin]

so far rollback i had so much loot

[remote spade]

L rollback

[brave mango]

5min rollback rip

[civic laurel]

can i move in, i have netherite, i robbed michael

[wind bison]

I know, I was just saying how impressive it was given how many players there were. Would have thought it would be a lot more than that.

[round umbra]

my chat is faster than an audi

[sick raptor]

so is chunk generation parallelization also planned?

[echo bear]

some playerdata not saved

[sturdy marlin]

my inventory got rolled backi but not the world

[outer jay]

rolled back playerdata pog

[karmic geode]

Ty

[remote spade]

Only half of my region got rolled back

[nimble glen]

I) am no longer at spawn!

[remote spade]

Wait nvm

[nimble glen]

rip

can I tp someone at spawn?

[magic ether]

just a few more players guys

[nova shale]

LOL

[surreal bloom]

your data probably got deleted rn, the spawn radius is ridiculous which is intended to spread players a lot

[languid zodiac]

yay

[nimble glen]

It did lmao

[spring light]

set chunk viewdistance to 32?

[nimble glen]

all my shit gear lost

[surreal bloom]

already struggles to generate chunks

[lone thorn]

oops

[vale panther]

does pregenerating fix that?

[lone thorn]

how am i mining whilst dead?

[surreal bloom]

yeah

[olive storm]

where everyone at

[wet umbra]

I mean the server has more than enough cores right? :p

[nova shale]

yes

[tranquil lava]

Yeah we just didn't want to pre-gen.

[lone thorn]

i guess the way the screen works has changed because i'm pretty sure it should be opened the frame the health is zero or something

[surreal bloom]

imagine pregenning when people are spread hundreds of thousands blocks away

[graceful kite]

good chunk loading

[tranquil lava]

We pregenned a very very very large map

Which took like a week+

But for this wanted to have no chunks pre-genned

[deft marsh]

this is actually incredible

[slim mulch]

neat!

[manic ruin]

k

[nimble glen]

Lemme tp someone at spawn xD

[graceful kite]

got a Horse

[tropic grail]

it's quite interesting how despite the chunk generation being complete crap at loading, the general gameplay experience of breaking and placing blocks is actually quite good, very well done guys

[spring light]

kill all mobs will chase players away

[olive storm]

man

[vale panther]

chat is disabled

[surreal bloom]

don't use chat

[olive storm]

i used tpa

[nova shale]

Mojang chat report moment

[surreal bloom]

or commands

[olive storm]

ahh

[vale panther]

lol

command is a type of chat, soo

[surreal bloom]

chat disabled with duct tape and glue

[fickle marsh]

how big is a compute region?

[deft marsh]

There are actually animals too omg

[vale panther]

vanilla mechanics are present

[echo bear]

md_5 👀

[manic ruin]

i actually got a small base going

[echo bear]

jroy behaviour

[drowsy latch]

Spagetti

[warm island]

who should i tpa to, to get near the stream :D

[onyx lynx]

I'm not on the server (too lazy to start MC) but how is the TPS right now on the Server or the TPS per Thread.... (idk actually)?

[echo bear]

what was jroy's IGN

[manic ruin]

im *near * it

[fossil notch]

pins

[tranquil lava]

TPS is "good"

[slim girder]

this is working pretty good

[nova shale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1083640315497418842/1083907424416710737/image.png

[fossil notch]

above 20 🤨

[onyx lynx]

🥹

It's a dream.....

[soft onyx]

is this setting handled client side or server side

[blissful charm]

who is md_5?

[haughty canopy]

[vale panther]

the spigot guy

[bronze blaze]

there's no catchup right now though so that tps reading is alot more impressive than it looks

[graceful kite]

mods i found a fly hacker (kennytv)

[blissful charm]

ty

[echo bear]

@surreal bloom what's your IGN

[surreal bloom]

not in-game rn

[bronze blaze]

the number reads diff

[drowsy latch]

Bro md's message is fake 😭

[surreal bloom]

same as here tho

[shadow rock]

lmao

[onyx lynx]

The guy who created Spigot

[echo bear]

we can tpa

[vale panther]

server isn't offline mode, so, lol

[fresh topaz]

/tellraw

[surreal bloom]

if you want to tpa into my bed

[uneven solstice]

dragon might be dead, if she didn't respawn since yesterday

[surreal bloom]

[true rampart]

nah i killed it yesterday

[surreal bloom]

no dragon 4 u

[manic ruin]

k

[cosmic fern]

WTF

[soft onyx]

What gc are y’all using

[true rampart]

shenandoah

[drowsy latch]

folia gonna remplace paper in the future ?

[true rampart]

no

[dense ibex]

shenandoah gc goes hard

[vale panther]

gc casually deletes 4 hundred gigabytes of garbage at once

[keen ginkgo]

that's fucking insane...

[bronze blaze]

blockposition be like

[vernal orchid]

when y'all are done serious testing, can you /gamemode creative @a?

[cosmic fern]

How many players a possible at a normal paper server ?

[surreal bloom]

someone will crash the server

[nimble glen]

I managed 100 without lag

[drowsy latch]

💀

[haughty canopy]

Is the source open yet?

[manic ruin]

ewww rain

[true rampart]

no

[slate hearth]

Don't have my PC ATM, how's it looking?

[true rampart]

good

[nova shale]

0normal MC server is around 60~80 on Vanilla config. This apply to all paper fork too

[bronze blaze]

blockposition is def taking up hella ram id guess

[surreal bloom]

See the live, #announcements

[remote spade]

Woah

[haughty canopy]

Can it show how many mobs are spawning?

[remote spade]

My portal spawned ina. Fortress

[sick raptor]

YES

[bronze blaze]

especially with how many chunks would be being loaded from people walking around everywhere like they are right now

[soft onyx]

Does it normally?

[blissful charm]

is there a way to get food?

[bronze blaze]

this is so cool man

[surreal bloom]

@nova shale food request here

[graceful kite]

huh, that doesnt look right

[nova shale]

I need MC name @surreal bloom

[manic ruin]

lol im just outside the dead region

[echo bear]

auth servers keep on dying

[nova shale]

I cant give food if I dont know who you are lol

[manic ruin]

tempted to go inside

[cosmic fern]

You think it is possible to make with Folia Lobby/Survival Server with more as 500 players

[graceful kite]

i think server died

[blissful charm]

Rambo_senpai

[old badge]

My chunks are frozen too...?

[vernal orchid]

jroy did something

[manic ruin]

oh i think my region just died

it was fine a few seconds ago now its dead

[surreal bloom]

Please wait while the server breaks and restarts again

[tranquil lava]

Standby while we debug :)

[uneven solstice]

nice thing is that the rest of the regions is still alive

[blissful charm]

this is sooo cool

[tranquil lava]

SOMEONE did something and one region has died.

[graceful kite]

what happened

[vernal orchid]

lemme grab this from the very first private folia testing session 😛 https://f.u11.io/ASlPmS

[manic ruin]

ofc the one im in

[dawn sluice]

Guess this depends heavily on the usage. Survival is quite different to a classic lobby.

[spring light]

Wait. Could you implement per-region reboots?

[slate hearth]

Ironic, I asked how it's looking and it crashes a minute later

[slate hearth]

Suppose I was asking to jinx it

[surreal bloom]

cheater

[nova shale]

xDDD

[nimble glen]

^^

[manic ruin]

dddd

[native kestrel]

server closed again

[uneven solstice]

whats up with the stone pickaxes though

[vernal orchid]

reboot

[dense sapphire]

F

[sick raptor]

crash again?

[dusty jay]

I always blame Larry!

[manic ruin]

join the vc its not a crash

[nimble glen]

restart

[spring light]

We look forward to another test just like this one tomorrow night after a debug session

[vernal orchid]

this was a deliberate reboot I believe

[stray tartan]

@shrewd quiver I found a bug, I don't have /gamemode

[tranquil lava]

Restarting, will be back up shortly.

[nimble glen]

lemme join your quest bro! xD

[sick raptor]

can we get spark/timings access?

[graceful kite]

F

[raw cipher]

wow Great work paper team

[stray tartan]

spark doesn't work

[sick raptor]

or /mem, or anything lik ethat

[true rampart]

spark doesn't work

nor does timings

[vernal orchid]

there's a timings link somewhere here iirc

[sick raptor]

flip

[nimble glen]

not in use atm no

[wooden matrix]

Very cool work.

[civic laurel]

fix it michael

[vernal orchid]

...

[graceful kite]

can we get a top-down web map of chunks colored by region to see the batching/distribution in action?

[oblique stratus]

that was fun

[true rampart]

fix deez nuts

[civic laurel]

skill issue

[manic ruin]

how fast is the ram

[nova shale]

[true rampart]

definitely not now lmao

[slate hearth]

Is the test server running any other plugins?

[drowsy latch]

what is this?

[true rampart]

only chunky

[dusty jay]

I'm sorry you're not running Paper so you'll need to get support where you got your "Folia" server jar!

[tranquil lava]

See pins

[nimble glen]

yeah brb...

[shell gazelle]

So, weird question, could I get the minecraft server seed?

[slate hearth]

Fair enough, pre gen work alright?

[surreal bloom]

yes

[vernal orchid]

although this isn't pregenned

[blissful charm]

does mc seed work like they normally do?

[flat cairn]

This is revolutionary

[cobalt tinsel]

What is folia?

[echo bear]

you can crack the seed anyway

[warm island]

can we get some fancier webmap, like bluemap, because the server is beefy enough to run it nicely

[bronze blaze]

are yall profiling then?

[true rampart]

yes

[bronze blaze]

with like jfr

[surreal bloom]

pins

[shell gazelle]

Ugh, work? Damn... xD

[manic ruin]

found a bug in the region that died

[tranquil lava]

And we're back!

[cobalt tinsel]

Oh, it is THAT thing!

[sharp jay]

It’s back

[cerulean escarp]

plugin support here is nonexistent. no existing plugins will work without modification

[manic ruin]

where do i report bugs at

[cerulean escarp]

just here for now. they will be recorded

[round umbra]

#folia-testing

[manic ruin]

@austere seal

didnt mean to ping that

[brisk fog]

Bluemap reads region files, it does not use API iikr

[warm island]

bluemap is cool, it reads chunks from world files and can run standalone via cli, so it would probably work

[nimble glen]

yeah

[surreal bloom]

the exceptions are all in the console and are probably valuable enough feedback

[cerulean escarp]

ah, did not realize they had a standalone version

[coral glade]

disaster but a fun one

[manic ruin]

well i broke a block when the region died and then the server restarted,blocks were still broken, but didnt drop

aka i lost my bed

[agile kelp]

am i seeing chiters here??

[slate hearth]

I imagine some plugins would still work without modification, if only a few?

[dusty jay]

Paper is just anti-bed

[granite dock]

😩

[dusty jay]

YOUR FAULT

[remote spade]

If anyone wants to go to the nether you can TP to legendarybob13

[magic ether]

h

[junior gull]

lmao ender dragon

[main bronze]

end portal jumpscare

[remote spade]

L

[honest thunder]

chunk generation are faster now

[sick raptor]

that a crash?

[civic laurel]

i made a house https://sirkillian.gg/i/s3n2orgxt53b984w.png everyone is invited

[slate hearth]

Yeah that makes sense

[nimble glen]

Was in then it died xD

[dire forum]

wonder if we can expect to see many existing plugins adapt, or if we'll eventually see a new plugin ecosystem emerge around this

[ornate smelt]

fancier than mine

[trim zodiac]

o yeah bluemap is cool yea

[sick raptor]

100%

[marsh pawn]

kicked instantly as soon as the end portal was set up

[civic laurel]

😂

[surreal bloom]

likely Folia-specific plugins will start popping up

[modern hound]

u guys need to add a tab menu with tps information

[nimble glen]

[manic ruin]

cool on all MY devices besides ultra low power school chromebooks

[nimble glen]

https://tenor.com/view/nether-portal-minecraft-portal-cool-gif-21449671

[coral glade]

Can you spin up a queue server that when server goes down we go to queue and when server goes back up it gradually lets people in?

[true rampart]

effort

[surreal bloom]

why

[agile kelp]

pointless

[coral glade]

agree

[daring trout]

effort

[quick tartan]

or you could just click "auto rejoin"

[onyx lynx]

Which version is the Test Server?

[true rampart]

1.19.3

[sick raptor]

1.19.3

[quick tartan]

fellow anarchy player

[vernal orchid]

some of us are good boys who aren't hacking

[agile kelp]

fellow nerdge

[round umbra]

lol

[agile kelp]

chiters

[coral glade]

Can you disable chunk saving? We are not on smp here...

[fallow moth]

Would autoreconnevt be considered hacking

[soft onyx]

Stop

[manic ruin]

nice

[surreal bloom]

Use the channels for intended purpose

[remote spade]

Why

[fleet elk]

I mean if a plugin were to do something stupid it's going to do something stupid.

[nimble glen]

sent request

[modern hound]

why the fuck is the chat disabled

[surreal bloom]

We're here to test, and saving the data is an important part of the testing

[rose sparrow]

i loaded back in with items i died with earlier?

[true rampart]

to prevent people saying slurs in chat while someone is streaming

[agile kelp]

no need to moderate

[tranquil lava]

Too much work to deal with debug and policing chat

[ornate smelt]

@civic laurel https://i.yive.dev/Z6jQYzsDkKLX1UE9.png there, I beat your house with a golden apple

[nimble glen]

hit u by accident

[steel zenith]

GG paper guys, and hats off to Leaf. I'm off but good luck with the bugfixing 😄

[modern hound]

is a tab menu with tps gonna be added or nah

[manic ruin]

nah

[surreal bloom]

definitely not now

[echo bear]

uh i am literally not dying

[modern hound]

why

[surreal bloom]

because rn nobody is going to work on that

[modern hound]

how u know how its performing then

[brisk fog]

Because there is no Api yet to grab local TPS

[surreal bloom]

staff has a command

[agile kelp]

if its not lagging it works

[modern hound]

let everyone use the command 🙂

[surreal bloom]

it's been disabled to prevent people spamming it

[civic laurel]

https://sirkillian.gg/i/68m2bq6hxueqqufy.png

[agile kelp]

if you dont notice major lag, i think thats mission success

[brisk fog]

There are client mods allowing to see ~TPS

[manic ruin]

!!!genoieus!!!

[spring light]

Those client mods seeing TPS don't work on Paper-based servers. Fabric only

[soft onyx]

Is there a timeline for when this will be released

[true rampart]

when it's ready

[modern hound]

is cheating allowed

[soft onyx]

Sooo no

[quick tartan]

Paper still sends time packets

[sage wave]

guessing it'll be soon™️

[junior gull]

oh my golly gosh im lagging

[civic laurel]

me and my beloved https://sirkillian.gg/i/edtj28bhzknd4flr.png

[tranquil lava]

No.

[brisk fog]

Well, as you can see cheat clients can do it still ^

[soft onyx]

Do we know if command blocks work

[magic ether]

imma head out but it's been really cool seeing a project like this actually come to fruition and work™️

[sharp jay]

Rubber band time

[spring light]

It won't be accurate

[vernal orchid]

I don't think so yet

[quick tartan]

welp
I guess no more time TPS measurement

[surreal bloom]

seeing as most of the commands don't work afaik then no

[remote spade]

My client crashed going back to the overworld

[sick raptor]

@civic laurel you should accept my tpa

[soft onyx]

Sounds like a fun challenge

[tranquil lava]

!ban 894299149602803783 Troll

[copper spindle]

:raised_hands: Banned LionZ#3787 (Troll) [3 total infractions] -- ocelotpotpie#5943.

[remote spade]

W

[dawn trellis]

lol

[granite dock]

beat me to it

[true rampart]

and that is why we disable chat

[dawn trellis]

LARRY

[tranquil lava]

^

[spring light]

We just need /tps command in game

[agile kelp]

ripbozo

[surreal bloom]

[bronze blaze]

does the entitytracker activate its own copy per region or is it global across the entire region pool

[tranquil lava]

We don't want people spamming tps right now

[modern hound]

💀

[granite dock]

git push origin true-reactive when

[spring light]

What's the downside?

[dawn trellis]

it's been a long few days away from computer

[sage wave]

Brigadier kills itself

[granite dock]

nw nw

[brisk fog]

Cheats are against Discord TOS

[dawn trellis]

[spring light]

English?

[modern hound]

utility mod

[dawn trellis]

command dispatcher

[quick tartan]

it's not cheating if it's not disallowed

[brisk fog]

Ahhh, utility is fine

[surreal bloom]

the code to handle command usage

[tranquil lava]

Not sure what that is

[quick tartan]

mfw creative mode funny NBT beehive

[modern hound]

one of the most useful mods

[civic laurel]

BRO

michael blew up my house im crying
https://sirkillian.gg/i/n76e7at527w28gn2.png
https://sirkillian.gg/i/n0te3o1r72lot20a.png

[agile kelp]

man...

[civic laurel]

ban him

[stray tartan]

wow I can't talk either 😦

[dawn trellis]

some kid trying to be "smart" by showing off their cheat client

[true rampart]

it's the paper anarchy server

[dusty lagoon]

what what

[true rampart]

chat is disabled intentionally

ignore the msg

[surreal bloom]

@true rampart is this the Paper Sponsor SMP?

[dawn trellis]

tellraw moment

[dusty lagoon]

I meant this

[tardy orchid]

someone is using tellraw, not a real message

[vernal orchid]

for posterity https://clips.twitch.tv/CarefulCautiousPigAMPEnergy-jhdf3riG1aT012Wy

[fleet elk]

here, have a trombone.
https://images.gamebanana.com/img/ss/wips/569ad689a9aee.jpg

[civic laurel]

thanks, i appreciate it!

[agile kelp]

that will go into use

[hidden cloak]

Huh?

[sullen harness]

Why do you need that many resources 😂😂

[pseudo pine]

bedrock

[remote spade]

Magic .Rhoswell

[sullen harness]

Geyser

[agile kelp]

geyser i see

[modern hound]

whats it using

[sullen harness]

Why do you need those insane specs 😂😂

[true rampart]

specs in pins

[true rampart]

well we don't

[civic laurel]

bees bugged? who would have thought...

[ornate smelt]

why do I feel like killian is involved with that crash

[granite oasis]

truth

[fleet elk]

Well, bees are bugs so not really a surprise.

[civic laurel]

[sullen harness]

Lmao is it just to see what’s software and what’s hardware?

[modern hound]

so how many cores are being used at once

[bronze blaze]

as many as regions

• netty

[cerulean escarp]

no. there is a thread pool for regions

[slate hearth]

Wait don't you mean threads?

[cerulean escarp]

it is set to 18 right now iirc

[tranquil lava]

18 threads for regions right now yeah

[sullen harness]

Look here for cpu utilization

Each 100% = 1 thread

[cosmic fern]

I need more satisfiyng stats of the computer

[agile kelp]

why not 1 for every player

[bronze blaze]

ah my bad then i figured it was basically left unlimited cause of the specs of the machine

[echo bear]

hoppers not working

[slate hearth]

Does that redstone run into the back of it?

[surreal bloom]

or you just don't know how to use redstone /s

[fleet elk]

Now we see the real reason folia performs well.

[echo bear]

wait it might be the redstone

[fleet elk]

lmao

[slate hearth]

It probably is

[echo bear]

oops

[vernal orchid]

yes that is absolutely the redstone lol

[slate hearth]

That locks the hopper lol

[modern hound]

pov you hyper load chunks

[spring light]

what's the significance of 85?

[agile kelp]

what would that pov be?

[slate hearth]

How would this handle limited threads?

[stray tartan]

The 85 is probably how many to show 😛

[drowsy latch]

Geyser should only break with folia if you try and pick-block a banner as a bedrock player lol

[spring light]

How does he know it's 85

[surreal bloom]

because he literally made it

[stray tartan]

85 is just more than it has

[vernal orchid]

it displays how many regions currently exist in /tps

which was 85

[spring light]

Wouldn't it fluctuate?

[vernal orchid]

he checked right before saying 85

[spring light]

Oh if it shows, fair enough

[modern hound]

are chunks pregenerated

[haughty canopy]

can't die

[surreal bloom]

well this is meant to scale, so if you have few threads or your players will be in close proximity you likely want Paper over Folia

[brave glacier]

Iirc you can't starve on difficulty easy

[surreal bloom]

they literally have 0 hearts

[vernal orchid]

heh folia is top 6 minehut SMP currently lol https://f.u11.io/dPBWxL

[brave glacier]

Oh oops

[echo bear]

drop the hprof file

[true rampart]

@tardy orchid @solemn sand

[manic ruin]

lol i have been in the vc and now im joined to watch this

[peak cedar]

is the server performing gud?

[vernal orchid]

take moderation callins from sponsor/boosters 😛

[round elk]

amazing house

[vernal orchid]

*vc callins

[spring light]

doEntityCramming

[hexed valley]

wait whats the address didnt hear it

[surreal bloom]

#announcements