modding-discussion

[dry snow]

and bundle it with the skin mod or something

how do you change text though

[empty saddle]

I don’t know, have never even made a mod before. Maybe there’s something on YouTube?

[dry snow]

also is it acceptable to sell custom skin mods made by you (non-twp) provided it's really good

[empty saddle]

I wouldn’t really see why not, provided it’s high quality enough

[lost karma]

no, no selling custom skins

[empty saddle]

Oh never mind I guess

[dry snow]

wait, are there official regulations on that?

[lost karma]

basically

someone came along, got their hands on a bunch of private skins

and sold them off

[dry snow]

erm i mean if i make one myself, that's high quality enough, and sell them
not anything made by anyone else meant for a challenge

[lost karma]

im not so sure

[silver garden]

I mean nobody can stop you selling something that you made

[lost karma]

ye

[dry snow]

ahh, thanks.

i just don't wanna run into trouble

and i'm in need of funds for a gaming chair

[weak plinth]

selling isn't an issue

just don't make the mistake that TWP skins did

theirs were sold by other people because there was a market for it. they closed off public access to their skins by keeping it locked behind only challenges

so.... was golden opportunity for people to sell it

instead of having an option to buy it directly from them instead

aka..... complete challenge OR buy from us for $X

[silver garden]

I don't think that was a mistake on their part

The mistake and blame lies solely on people being scummy

[weak plinth]

why not just set up a purchase option themselves

it's the same reason drugs are sold on black markets

[silver garden]

Because they wanted to encourage people to do the challenges

[weak plinth]

b/c you can't buy them "legally"

that's fine. but there was still a market for buying the skins

so people did

[dry snow]

it's how they want to do it

[silver garden]

No, you're arguing in favour of somebody selling stolen goods

[dry snow]

but people who're too noob (e.g. me) to do the challenges or joined too late and missed the challenges won't get to buy

[silver garden]

That's not the same

[weak plinth]

it's a natural state for things to come to

[silver garden]

Ah yes

The logical conclusion is to steal things

[dry snow]

and i'm in no place to hold a challenge so i'd rather sell it

besides i need some funds

[weak plinth]

I mean, yeah kinda

it's the same reason people steal food

[silver garden]

Fucking hell

What an absolutely ridiculous comparison

[weak plinth]

if they're forced into that situation, they're going to do it. we're obviously not talking about survival here

[stone vale]

?????? stealing to survive = stealing a skin for a game??

[weak plinth]

but there's still a market for it

I'm not advocating for it

[silver garden]

You need to check yourself, pal

You literally are

[weak plinth]

but it's a logical conclusion

[silver garden]

What you're doing here is advocating for it, whether you believe that or not

[weak plinth]

which could have been avoided by TWP also offering a purchase option

[dry snow]

it sort of ruins the soul of the game per se

but i'm not a good gamer

[weak plinth]

it's also gatekeeping for those of lower skill

[dry snow]

if i make a skin imma sell it

[silver garden]

I don't have my TV for sale, that doesn't mean somebody can come and steal it to sell

[dry snow]

which i probably will in june

[empty saddle]

I mean he’s saying that instead of having people steal it and sell it, you should be the one selling it so that at least you’re the one making money instead of potential thieves

[weak plinth]

your TV isn't in high demand

[silver garden]

Ah, so it's their fault for being good at what they do

[dry snow]

he's just saying that i shouldn't hold challenges

to avoid the case of

the black market

[weak plinth]

or.... hold challenges, but also have a purchase option, which you want anyways

which is fine

[dry snow]

nah. i can't beat sly why would i hold challenges

[weak plinth]

don't create a black market opportunity. or, create some other way that doesn't make black market sales so easy

[dry snow]

i'll probably ask for nitro for first come first serve
then the rest, a slightly higher price than a month of nitro

[silver garden]

Man who is absurdly rude to people asking for help also thinks that theft is the fault of the victim. 🙃

[weak plinth]

there's a reason that companies put insane controls on their products

to prevent this kind of thing

[dry snow]

i mean, this does make sense and i've thought about it

anyway i have 2 exams today and i didn't study for one of them, which is in 30min

[weak plinth]

it's a logical ending to the setup they had

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dry snow]

bye for now pls ping me

if you wanna reply

[weak plinth]

i'm not saying people SHOULD have stolen it

[silver garden]

Imma just go sell some copies of Hollow Knight for £2

No Biggie

It's TC's fault for not undercutting me!

[swift bison]

Idk who’s side to take

[weak plinth]

it's a similar thing to cosmetics in games that can be earned by either spending a ton of time in game OR purchasing the skin packs

in that case, you can't steal skin packs though, but if you're lower skill, you can still get it

[silver garden]

So your point has no comparison to the situation

Lol

They do it for the profit, not because others would if they didn't

[stone vale]

i dont really get the point of saying “they should have done this”. they didnt; that still doesnt make them at fault for other people stealing and selling their work

[weak plinth]

it was probably poor wording to say it was their fault for things being stolen. I'm saying they could have avoided the whole situation if they had just offered options

there is a market for it cuz their work was good

so offer multiple paths to getting it instead of only challenges

[silver garden]

"I worded it poorly, but I meant what I said"

Excellent retraction there

[swift bison]

Here’s what I got: if you create something that requires skill to get, then most likely somebody will get it then sell it. It’s not the fault of the creator, it’s terrible that it happens, and the people selling these should be punished, but they need to take it into mind

[weak plinth]

I get it, challenges are fun, but it also doesn't allow for unskilled people to enjoy it

[weak plinth]

yeah basically

[silver garden]

You're literally excusing people for stealing art

[lost karma]

they're not excusing it

[swift bison]

Ah I missed that in my message let me edit

[lost karma]

they understand why it was done, but it was still bad

[dry snow]

anyway i just wanna ask. there's nothing wrong with selling a customknight skin you've made yourself right
(ping me if you have objections)

[weak plinth]

nah

[weak plinth]

yes

[lost karma]

i don't think so

[silver garden]

But he's also saying "It's just the way things are, can't be helped!" which is literally excusing it

[weak plinth]

then you're missing the part where I said they could have avoided it

[silver garden]

Going after the victim for not accounting for it instead of the assailant for doing it is literally excusing the act

[swift bison]

(Why is everyone arguing on discord today)

[weak plinth]

i dunno

[lost karma]

[weak plinth]

so in the scenario they were in, where it happened

[swift bison]

Arguments in the sanctuary arguments here, arguments everywhere

[weak plinth]

they could still fix it after the fact

[silver garden]

This is called victim blaming. It is a very basic term. Look it up.

[weak plinth]

by offering a purchase option

[silver garden]

You are doing it.

Stop blaming them.

[swift bison]

Mickely isn’t blaming them

[lost karma]

hes not blaming them

[silver garden]

Lol

[weak plinth]

it's the same reason HK gets pirated

[swift bison]

They’re saying that people need to take it into consideration since it most likely will happen

[weak plinth]

it sucks, but it happens

[silver garden]

Google victim blaming

[swift bison]

Ok

[weak plinth]

or any program gets pirated

usually it's for free instead of for a price

[swift bison]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_blaming

[stone vale]

isnt mickely saying “this cant be avoided except if twp had offered a pay version”

[weak plinth]

but it's a similar phenomenon

[swift bison]

We aren’t blaming them, we’re saying a way they could have avoided this

[silver garden]

"holding the victim entirely or partially at fault"

[stone vale]

isnt that. blaming them? because theyre at fault for not doing the thing that wouldve avoided this?

[silver garden]

You read that bit, right

[swift bison]

Yeah

So?

[lost karma]

for example, i really like the pure vessel skin, and the skin thats limited to skin artists only
however, both are now unavailable to me: 1. im not a good spriter, and i don't wanna make something im not proud of, all for a skin. if im gonna go through the trouble of making a skin, i want to make sure its decent.
2. i have searched high and low for any challenges thats tied to the pure vessel skin, but i have found nothing.
Now, if someone came along, and offered these skins to me, i would deny them, as its wrong......but id be lying if i said it wouldn't tempt me

[silver garden]

That's what is being done here

[swift bison]

Suggesting another thing to do for a new skin creator

[silver garden]

You have entirely missed what is being discussed here

[swift bison]

Maybe I am

[silver garden]

Yep

[swift bison]

I’ll leave now

[silver garden]

Somebody selling their own skin is entirely their own volition.

Telling people that if they don't sell their skin somebody else will is victim blaming and excuses people for literal theft

[lost karma]

Look, this is dumb.
Point is: There were reasons why the skins were stolen and sold, and there were ways this could have been stopped.
However, just because these people had reasons, and there was some logic behind them, doesn't mean it was ok. What they did was still wrong.

[swift bison]

Hold on there

We’re explaining past experiences

Stuff that could have been done to possibly prevent anything that happened

Now twp didn’t do that and it’s fine. The criminal here is the seller

[weak plinth]

so instead we should say do nothing?

[swift bison]

I guess so

[silver garden]

We should chastise those who do wrong for doing wrong?

[weak plinth]

learning from things that have happened is good no?

[silver garden]

Is that a difficult concept?

[swift bison]

At least that’s what I think I’m arguing for(?)

[silver garden]

We should prevent wrongdoing?

[weak plinth]

I will gladly chastise a shadow

[silver garden]

Not encourage everything to be up for sale like some hypercapitalist dystopia?

[weak plinth]

How can you hold a black market accountable?

[silver garden]

"If you own things you must sell them or be prepared to have them stolen and sold!"

[swift bison]

You Should

[silver garden]

No

[swift bison]

Or they might be stolen

[silver garden]

You need to sell me the place you live right now or I'm going to steal it

[swift bison]

There’s a high chance

[silver garden]

Should've seen it coming, there's nothing you can do

[swift bison]

Oooo money

Ok

[weak plinth]

people are scum. if a profit opportunity is there, they will take it.

[lost karma]

^^^^

[silver garden]

I will give you a single dollar. If you don't accept I will steal it.

[weak plinth]

i should change that to "easy" profit opportunity

[silver garden]

This is the conclusion you're leading the world towards

[weak plinth]

but good luck stealing my whole house. lol

[swift bison]

dming rn, could really use $1000

[silver garden]

Don't DM me

[swift bison]

:(

[weak plinth]

all I'm saying is, at least be mentally prepared for an adverse situation. cuz it COULD happen. it's why I lock my house. in preparation for adverse effects

this is getting way too deep into unanswerable questions

[silver garden]

But if somebody steals from you by breaking the window do you expect people to go "Well, you did have breakable windows"

[weak plinth]

it's not my fault if my house is broken into

but at least I'm making it harder for the thieves

[swift bison]

Here’s 2 sets of words
should consider
might

You should consider selling skins instead of challenges, because people might sell them

[weak plinth]

I would absolutely kick myself later if my house was ransacked and I left my back door wide open

and learn from that, and keep it locked going forward

[swift bison]

Now somebody else might trust the world more and make skin challenges, skins being stolen isn’t their fault, it’s the terrible world around them

[swift bison]

People will have different mindsets about the advice, and either option it isn’t their fault if it’s stolen

Uhh should I go now?

Got a little carried away and need to do something

[dry snow]

welp

that discussion did not age well

[swift bison]

little may be a understatement

[dry snow]

bye i'm gonna sit for the byeologi paper right now

[swift bison]

Bye

I have no idea if I’m right can somebody tell me

[lost karma]

i don't know

its wrong to steal and sell somethign that isn't yours

[swift bison]

Agreed

[weak plinth]

agreed

[lost karma]

but there aren't really any rules about selling something YOU made

[swift bison]

Yeah

[lost karma]

so, id say its in the gray area

go for it, but be careful

[swift bison]

You can give advice on it though

Learn from past experiences

Doesn’t matter if you take the advice or not, still the stealer’s fault

Well uh ttyl gtg do stuff

[cold talon]

is it possible with debug mode or somehow to have a boss repeating the same attack over and over again?

[weak plinth]

you'd have to write a custom boss mod

[cold talon]

I see. I just saw Hunt Hussle attacking pure vessel's parry and then jumping and pogoing evading the slash attack. Didnt know was possible 😮

By the way Mickely, are you the one doing pb5 ab hitless?

[weak plinth]

no

[tawny urchin]

can you hollow nut mod switch

[sturdy crest]

So is anyone here interested in making a Crystal Stag Station mod with me? I've already made some of the levels for it but I just don't know how to program in Unity.

I started with RedFrog a while a go but he got too busy

[barren wharf]

Oh hey dude I don’t know anything about programming and stuff, anything else I could do?

[sturdy crest]

not sure to be honest, I just need someone who knows programming

[nocturne sky]

Woah, nice

I'd love to, at some point

I need the practice for adding rooms anyways

And I'm working right now on multiple crystal peak themed mods

[sturdy crest]

nice, very interesting. Feel free to contact me if/when you have more time

[nocturne sky]

Sure, I'll try

Do you have any placement ideas already or just the concept layout art?

[tranquil pollen]

Does anyone knows if there's a skin mode for the knight to look like the little goat knight?

Something like this guy

[wheat elk]

Is modding hk easy?

Like, I have prior experience with various programming languages

[late lodge]

#archived-modding-development , https://radiance.host/apidocs and its fairly easy as i can do it with almost 0 programming experience.
The docs rly help

[wheat elk]

thanks!

[sturdy crest]

yeah I absolutely do, I can send it to you if need be

[nocturne sky]

Nah, I won't need it till I actually start working on it

_ _
Ok hear me out
A skin of the Knight but only a floating head

I must get to work immediately

[hexed nimbus]

rayman knight
rayman knight

[covert verge]

hey i figured out i could respawn some bosses with the debug mod but is it possible to respawn other people like npcs ?

[swift bison]

Not with debug

[versed remnant]

I don’t see how you want to “respawn” them

[swift bison]

You can save edit them back

[swift bison]

Prob stuff like nail smith

[covert verge]

yes exactly x)

[swift bison]

Save editing is the only way

[versed remnant]

Why? He only disappeares after you have maxed out the nail

[swift bison]

Or making a custom mod but at that point it’s easier to save edit

[covert verge]

what is save edit ?

[swift bison]

To kill him and save him on the same save

[covert verge]

i'd like to do the achievement

[swift bison]

Look up “hollow knight save editor”

But you’d have to cypher through a bunch of Playerdata values to do that

[fickle charm]

krill are you going for all the achievements?

[swift bison]

I’d give you the values to edit but I won’t be home for ~3 hours

[dull gull]

are there any custom knight skins other than the main 2 files and the challenge ones?

these plus the onigiri and fool challenge skins

[tawny urchin]

is their a way to mod hollow knight switch?

[late lodge]

No

[quasi trout]

I want to practice/ play against absolute radiance but i have not made it to the pantheon of hallownest, is there a mod where i can play vs [ar] regardless, or godmode so i can reach that point just once or something similar?

or a file that i can edit so absolute radiance appears in godhome hall of bosses

[covert verge]

yes

[covert verge]

ok thx

[fickle charm]

i'd just say you get the achievement when you ultimately have to run through the game again

all of those achievements are once per save file so just do the opposite of whatever you did the first time when you're doing the steel soul mode

[covert verge]

i think i'll do that but i would also like to have the nailsmith alive in my main save. i know it's useless but i'm maniacal

[dry snow]

what if
i actually replace abysshriek with abyssshrek on the sprite sheets

[dry snow]

edit the save file

i had him both dead and alive

you can change "nailsmithkilled", "nailsmithspared" and "nailsmithsheo" to true on the save, it's not so far down

put in your user1 save here
https://bloodorca.github.io/hollow/
find out where the saves are on your type of pc

i did get both achievements after the edit

[magic elk]

do it

[dry snow]

i already did

#archived-modding-development

[tight wolf]

hello! is there a mod that basically when u load up a new file its just 112 completion with everything unlocked?

[wicked berry]

You can download somebody else's completed savefile

Or you can use benchwarp mod to warp out of a godseeker savefile, if you want the world to be untouched while still having all the upgrades.

hm

[tight wolf]

ok thanks! also btw my modinstaller wasnt working

[wicked berry]

ok?

[native beacon]

last texture pack the textures weren’t aligned correctly and the character was shivering while idle, i hope this one’s alligned

note: this is a combo of 2 packs i really liked, i didn’t make the textures

[surreal crypt]

Is this a combo of Stary Knight and Daughter of Hallownest? if so theres already a full skin for it

it's called Daughter of the Stars, if you want to look for it

[native beacon]

cant find it? also, yes it is a combo of stary and doh lol

[surreal crypt]

here you go https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1yl5KBPYcQIzRwrA5zLelVBsc9UhJedCn?usp=sharing

[native beacon]

thanks!

[lofty scroll]

how do I get to saves page 2?

cant click on this or do anything

[errant lance]

]

[lofty scroll]

]

[silver garden]

Press the [] buttons or L1/R1 on your controller to swap pages

[spare lily]

is there any way to stop the screen shake when you have been in the air for too long?

i have the debug mod installed

[hexed nimbus]

afaik there is no mod that does that

[spare lily]

rip

[late lodge]

why do i have a feeling there is one

anyway i'd never find it lol

[gilded sierra]

i think using fixed cam prevents screenshake

default bind f5 iirc

[late lodge]

#hk-discussion message

idk if it works

tell me if it works (you can ping)

if it works then theres a new mod for the readme doc

[spare lily]

i tried and it didn't work :(

[late lodge]

^

[ornate cargo]

can you enter ||godhome without void heart||

[random elk]

yes

[hexed nimbus]

yes

[weak plinth]

Yes

[random elk]

the only thing in godhome that requires voidheat is p5

[late lodge]

you dont have to spoiler mark here

only in #hk-help

[turbid shard]

blackmoth mantis lords is so fun lol

[swift bison]

More of a question for #hk-help

[ornate cargo]

oh

i went in the wrong channel

[viscid aspen]

nice!

?

still cool

[vagrant orbit]

If it was Fireb0rn, I'm pretty sure that he incorrectly says in one of the showcase vids that all of the skins are here; however, only skins that TWP publicly released, and skins that people here have requested to be added, are in the two drives.

A lot of skins he's shown off are from a different site iirc

Okay, that doesn't really change what I said though lol

[viscid aspen]

#modding-discussion message glacier knight

i think

[vagrant orbit]

I was gonna ask why that wasn't added, but it looks like probably because it wasn't posted here by the author

Speaking of which, has Moss Knight been added to the drive yet?

The author posted it here, asking to have it added, like 6 months ago lol

[viscid aspen]

[rancid herald]

does anyone know where the sprites are in the files?

[vagrant orbit]

You have to extract them

I think most of them are pinned in an art channel

Otherwise you need to use GoDump

[late lodge]

It was probably not added because no-one adds it like moss knight

[late lodge]

All sprites are pinned in #art-discussion

[vagrant orbit]

Glacier didn't appear to be shared here by the author, so it wouldn't make sense to be added (since it wouldn't have permission to be added).

Moss Knight was literally requested to be added by the author though lol

[late lodge]

And bc it was probably never asked to be added

[random elk]

@ Mickey add the skin
#modding-discussion message

[covert verge]

hey i did it but nothing happened the nailsmith isn't with sheo

[late lodge]

Start a new save, use bechwarp to tp to city, give yourself geo and pale ore with debug and get nail5

[dry snow]

have you enabled nailsmithsheo (not just nailsmith spared)?

[cursive onyx]

Out of curiosity, what are the best mods to install for a modded play through?

[random elk]

Elderbug God

[cursive onyx]

ummmm ok

[long root]

Does anyone know what the Godly Nightmares mod does?

[cursive onyx]

Thats a lie.... I took damage and died

why is there no elderbug?

WTFFFF

I died an then saw elderbug fly away

aaaand my game crashed

[dry snow]

how to use godump

[random elk]

Read the readme

[random elk]

Lol get trolled

[dry snow]

i need help with using krita for customknight

how to even add image as layer

[lost karma]

so i decided to try the white palace Fool skin challenge

do i just upload that to youtube, or how does this work?

[minor tinsel]

upload to youtube/some video sharing website and dm it to benji

[lost karma]

ok

um

which one?

there's several Benji's

[random elk]

Their user tag is mentioned in the docs

[minor tinsel]

server admin benji

[river vigil]

I've noticed this channel to be somewhat dead, but I'll shoot anyway

is there a mod for removing arena backgrounds in godhome?

my game runs smoothly 98% of the time, but when it comes to traitor lord and nailsage sly, framerate starts crapping

I'm guessing it's because of the intense amount of scenery

and toaster laptop

for traitor lord it's manageable as his moves are slow enough

but it's impossible to fight sly, as when he's using great slash, I don't see until it's too late

[versed remnant]

@river vigil have you tried going to settings and setting everything to low?

[river vigil]

yep

been playing that way since the beginning 😆

[versed remnant]

Ok. Well, I don’t think there is a mod like that. My advice is just use debug mod and make yourself invincible for those fights

[river vigil]

that's no fun tho lol

I'll wait and see if someone has an answer tomorrow

[versed remnant]

Ok

[covert verge]

yes

[dry snow]

oh man
you replaced all your files with the edited one right

[late lodge]

or just send the save here and i'll look at it

[covert verge]

i have to do it with all the .dat files ?

[late lodge]

only the userX files, X being save number

[covert verge]

and the files like user1_1.4.2.4 (with multiple numbers) too ?

[late lodge]

no

send the .json

[dry snow]

not really, but sometimes do that to be safe

that's how i somehow got nailsmith to work

[covert verge]

ok

[covert verge]

where do i find it ?

[late lodge]

in saves?

oh wait

[dry snow]

also try to visit sheo again after that

[covert verge]

ok

[late lodge]

you probably do not use QoL mod?

[covert verge]

no

[late lodge]

then just send the .dat thingie

[covert verge]

user1.dat ?

[late lodge]

ye

[late lodge]

@covert verge should work (go to sheo)

also delete user1_1.4.2.4.dat and any other user1 files

[covert verge]

okay

it is not dangerous for my save ?

[late lodge]

no

otherwise all my saves would be broken

[covert verge]

ohh it worked thank you so much

[random elk]

why is it 1424?

[late lodge]

?

"version": "1.4.3.2",

no 1.4.2.4

[random elk]

..

[late lodge]

typo maybe

there should be nothing wrong, as the save doesn't lie

[coarse finch]

If you benchwarp from a conveyor, you get stuck in a permanent sliding motion until you leave the save

is this commonly known?

[late lodge]

well no but not all mods are without glitches

[gilded sierra]

this is a game glitch fwiw, same happens with quitouts (on 1024 at least, not sure if it got fixed ever)

[dry snow]

that pale king skin is hilarious

[wicked berry]

So, a while back, there was debate over whether mods would still work once the new patch came out. I've also been told that modders are no longer worried about it. What happened?

[hexed nimbus]

mods will break with the release because of underlying technology, but shouldn't take long/much to make the mods work with the beta patch again

some more exotic mods may take longer because of other underlying stuff

[wicked berry]

Gotcha

~~what are the chances someone will bother to patch anyrad ~~

I'm glad it isn't as big of an issue as it first seemed.

[hexed nimbus]

shouldn't take that long

port it :)

[sweet knot]

I have an idea for a knight mod. If anyone wants to try it.

[river vigil]

bumping

[rose tartan]

I don't recall there being a mod that does that unfortunately

[river vigil]

rip

think I'll just learn unity and do it myself 😆

cuz I really want to fight sly without dropped frames

[late lodge]

why not set the quality lower

blur quality etc

[river vigil]

already done that

and playing in windowed mode

[nocturne sky]

Nah, no need to learn unity

You can go over gameobjects in the background and simply delete them

Should work

[river vigil]

perhaps I meant just downloading unity lol

tho there's still the learning curve of how everything works

but thanks for the tip

[late lodge]

you dont even need unity

[dry snow]

does modinstaller have the terribly translated mod?

[errant lance]

?i

[granite agate]

Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages.

[late lodge]

poorly translated

[wicked berry]

Has anyone tested whether making a savestate with debug mod will save how many hits you've taken for carefree melody activation?

[late lodge]

it will save everything

[wicked berry]

Thank you

[rose tartan]

New mod coming soon 🙂

[late lodge]

👀

[dry snow]

what the

thats scary...

[minor tinsel]

yooooo

the level of creativity with using existing resources to make brand new unique attacks is incredible

[river vigil]

wait I don't?

are arena backgrounds located in the local files

I'm thinking about turning on hitbox collisions so I'm not fighting on no floor lol

[swift bison]

You aren’t editing the files.....

You’re making a mod that destroys the objects in the background at runtime(when the game is being run)

[river vigil]

if it wasn't evident enough I'm no modder

not quite sure what I can do

others said downloading unity wasn't necessary

but I'm not sure how else you would go about it

[minor tinsel]

you use code to destroy all the background items

when the game is run

that way you don't edit the actual game files and make it permanent

and you can just remove the mod at any time to have the background items appear again

[river vigil]

I don't know what kind of program I would need for that

besides, I'm totally fine with permanently removing backgrounds anyway

not like fluctuating framerate is desirable anyway

[wicked berry]

i think there's already a mod like that you could work from

blind radiance or something along those lines

[river vigil]

looked it up, just makes radiance even harder

[wicked berry]

#modding-discussion message

#archived-modding-help message

[river vigil]

so the first only makes certain arena backgrounds dark, but thank you for the suggestion

for the second link

SFGrenade said he was working on a similar mod that would do the same for all arenas, but nothing yet I suppose?

[wicked berry]

you could ask sfgrenade

he might know

[river vigil]

just did so in the modding help channel, hopefully he's not mad that I pinged him with his nickname being "don't @ me"

[fallow thorn]

can someone send link to multiworld downloads

[random elk]

#randomizer

[tacit solstice]

I have a debug mod question

is the slowest timescale you can toggle to frame by frame?

[hexed nimbus]

Tbh i maybe would not have seen this if not for the @

[hard root]

do you want something slower than a single frame? O.o

[lime harness]

is there a way to inspect hollow knight ram memory and make it so we are able to advance frame by frame

[grizzled steppe]

which god damn mod makes moss charger impossible, i have several mods on and when i tried p5ab i get to moss charger and hes going at lightspeed and has a cool name

[lime harness]

i want a tiso boss fight since tc won't do it

[late lodge]

what was the name

the "cool name"

and list which mods you have

[random elk]

thats easier p5 practice

use this version

its not impossible in this version

[late lodge]

why did you do that and why do i find it so funny lol

[random elk]

why did you do that
becuase its funny

[grizzled steppe]

ok so i have to go to hollow knight > managed > mods and put the dll in that folder?

[late lodge]

ye

[random elk]

do that and delete the old one

[versed remnant]

Why would you need to do all of this for a Tiso bossfight?

[lime harness]

those are seperate ideas tho

the one you replied to is for tas speedrunning

tho it would be cool if we had a mod that lets us do tas

[versed remnant]

Ah. I don’t think HK is fit for a TAS since a lot of things are framerate dependant and rely on RNG. If your fps is off by 1 frame it could totally destroy the TAS

[lime harness]

right

[late lodge]

hk has tas

there is a tas for hk

i've watched it

[lime harness]

but then the mod could make it so the framerate is locked to a specific number

WHERE

[late lodge]

oh wait

its only p5

https://youtu.be/kSbdycDBSgQ

still a tas

[versed remnant]

First do this QualitySettings.vSyncCount = 0

And then this Application.targetFrameRate = 45;

Replace 45 with the desired framerate

[lime harness]

yeah no i wont make a tas mod

[versed remnant]

What do you want then?

I don’t think that there is a mod for that already

[lime harness]

it would be cool if there was one tbh

i would only need the feature to advance frame by frame

and maybe the feature to record and play tas

seemingly pc games arent fit for tas

[versed remnant]

Yeah. I don’t think anybody is going to make that.

[versed remnant]

Indeed. Most pc games rely heavily on RNG

[lime harness]

if they relied on rng that generated based on variables the player can change, tas would be possible on pc

[versed remnant]

Nah. They just relie on pure RNG. I don’t think RNG manipulation is possible for HK

[grizzled steppe]

doesnt speedrun mod manipulate rng to be optimal as well as the tases or am i not understanding something here

[versed remnant]

Tases manipulate RNG be doing things in game

[grizzled steppe]

but arent most tases on games without rng

and on the few with rng its like manipulated to do the same thing over and over every retry

isnt that how it works?

[versed remnant]

Yes there are

[versed remnant]

That’s right, but they don’t do it using tools. They do it by, for example setting their name to a certain thing. Those games use a seed derived from things that you have done earlier

[grizzled steppe]

what

also its a tool assisted speedrun arent you supposed to use tools to the fullest

[versed remnant]

No. Only for the inputs.

Otherwise you could just use a tool to warp to the credits

[late lodge]

not only inputs

RNG manupulation is also allowed

[grizzled steppe]

is there like a way to find mods that arent on the modinstaller without specifically knowing they exist?

[late lodge]

the readme doc has some

if you find anymore then just tell me or mulhima

then we can add it

(the readme doc is pinned)

[gilded sierra]

the hk tas gets consistent rng by freezing the system clock using libtas, which forces unity to always start with the same seed. This does pose some issues for making a tas, since you can't ever go back to change previous sections as the seed only determines the first RNG call, and not the order in which they're called.

but it is doable, and it seems a lot of the various sync issues are being worked through, to the point where we are now getting v. convincing KP -> xroads well tases

[meager jetty]

would i ask a question about a mod here or in #archived-modding-help

i put it in #archived-modding-help for now, but was thinking it might be better here, not sure

[craggy tapir]

Does anyone know if there is a mod that disables the audio ducking / muffling when the knight is hit? I'm having trouble finding good search terms for this.

[meager jetty]

just wondering, why disable it?

[river vigil]

the music cuts out

lil annoying when you're trying to listen to a good battle theme but then

boom

two mask damage sfx

[meager jetty]

huh

i like it

also sorry, idk if theres a mod that does that lol

[dry snow]

you could just turn off sound effects but that affects all sound that the knight makes

[craggy tapir]

I understand the design decisions that went into the effect. But sudden audio ducking has always bothered me, even outside Hollow Knight, in a way that's hard to describe. [It feels like someone's squeezing my head?]
It bothered me throughout my casual runs, but I got past it. The issue is that I've been teaching my 5-year-old how to play (with the use of debug and infinite HP); so avoiding getting hit isn't really an option any more. I'd rather not enable invincibility due to the way it changes knockback.
Also, yes, it's borderline criminal to turn down the beautiful music.

[glacial prism]

I have an odd question as a non modder. Would it be possible to make blind fold mod for Hollowknight that makes it so all bosses or all required bosses follow one consistent RNG pattern/cycle? so you could plan and play around said one consistent pattern?

[hexed nimbus]

bruteforce method (basically what libtas is doing)

possible? yes, easily
will it restrict you to have only that one mod installed? yes (as in: with other mods the rng may be different)
will the rng be frame dependend? yes (as in: transtition from one room to the next a frame later than usual and you have different rng)

more accurate method

possible? probably
will it restrict you to have only that one mod installed? possibly (depends on how it is implemented)
will the rng be frame dependend? only when enemies with are on screen

[gilded sierra]

it is possible to fix enemy ai, for example QoL fixes uumuu rng to always give the same pattern

you'd just have to do it individually for every boss

[glacial prism]

the hardest one to get right would be watcher knights but at least it is possible to make the boss fight 100% consistent every time even if you die

[hexed nimbus]

if i'd do the attack pattern stuff with every boss just know that every attack will be one after another, just in the worst possible order >:)

[solid cypress]

honestly idk if thats required ive already proven that you can beat bosses that are almost entirely invisible the only extra complication youd have is knowing where your character is but limiting what you use to move makes that easier

and youd have to memorize each enemys spawn location and how they work and the paths required and where and when to click or go or what youre fighting or when youre fighting so the issue is like thats not exactly humanly possible

theres a reason not many games are blindfold played. if they are theyre generally a lot shorter and have les extreme platforming and less required fights than hollow knight

also youd die to hornet 1 like 2343274632874632784683287 times hornet 1 is hell with invisible bosses

and knockback on bosses and enemies will screw with the rng even if its the same attacks they wont land in the same spots every time

[reef pewter]

what is the "world understanding"(or smt like that) in Rando 3? I have gotten it from a lvl 2 grimkin. note, I have Hollow Point also installed.

[gilded sierra]

world sense, tells you your % on the save select screen & in inventory

[hasty grove]

hello, does anyone want a special skin in some sort of way? I have time today and nothing to do.

[river vigil]

samus aran costume /s

unless you're being serious

cuz the number of sprites one has to make looks daunting

[hexed nimbus]

the last number of sprites i heard was around 1400-1500

[river vigil]

no way

1000??

jeez

[pseudo palm]

i wish someone would make a niko skin for hollow kinght

[viscid aspen]

honestly, i am willing to make another custom knight skin but i dont want to put myself through the struggles of making the angel knight skin again

im willing to collab someone on a custom knight tho

[minor tinsel]

i'd be up for a collab if not for the fact that i'm preoccupied with a bunch of stuff including my own skin, and the fact that my terrible work ethic would make collabing with me probably worse than just doing it on your own

[viscid aspen]

i mean i have a shitty work ethic too

[vagrant orbit]

You did a lot very quickly imo lol

[cunning hull]

can someone help me with the mods

[random elk]

#archived-modding-help

[pseudo palm]

can you make a niko skin? i really like how it looks

ill help

[quaint tangle]

niko from oneshot?

[olive moat]

whats name this healthbar mod has?

[gilded sierra]

EnemyHPBar

[scenic marlin]

Just had a really random idea, but: Is it possible to make custom title screen backgrounds?

[hexed nimbus]

yes

[sinful trout]

hey

um

i have no modding experience

but um

looking for some help with a 3 v 3 team based mod

on each team there is a "Pale king"

i would need a custom skin to be for a specific badge

and everyone else is a knight

[hexed nimbus]

example

[random elk]

Testing staff

[sinful trout]

the king would have all abilities and spell and soul vessels and masks unlocked

but the knights would have to collect abilities while protecting the king

bc the king does almost no damage

first team to kill enemy king wins the game

[abstract tendon]

It's great you've got a fun sounding idea. It's another thing to make it happen. It's not impossible but you're unlikely to find someone who will just jump in and help you make this happen (for free).

Which means implementation falls squarely on you/your wallet.

[sinful trout]

ik

its very sad

were prob just going to mess with save files/ multiplayer mod

[hexed patrol]

is there no modded version of soul master?

[abstract tendon]

You could start small and try to learn to mod and code. It's not hard it's just something that you need to learn. It takes some time and effort but it's really fun.

I'm not really suggesting I'll hold your hand but if you really want tips on how to start then feel free to DM me.

[vague orbit]

Hello

Is there any news on the pale court mod?

[vagrant orbit]

If you haven't used it yet, there's HKMP, which is a Multiplayer mod that is being actively developed and supports a lot of additional features.

You can do teams on it, and it supports skins. You can mostly do your idea by having the Kings use finished saves, and the host can set the damage values for PVP to be low.

[grizzled steppe]

is it theoretically possible to make a modded boss without having any idea how to make code or where to find the code you need

[vague orbit]

Im pretty sure no

but i know nothing about coding either

[random elk]

depends on how much you wanna edit

[hexed nimbus]

yes: find other people that know how to code and are willing to work with you

[grizzled steppe]

like just theoretically if you were to make an attack go a longer/shorter distance or make an attack that happens multiple times happen more times

or just like completely theoretically make a certain attack happen right after another finishes

would it be possible by just taking other code and plopping it in another place

of course completely theoretically

[river vigil]

yeah sounds like you'll have to go into the code to manually change values and whatnot

[random elk]

doesnt sound that bad

[grizzled steppe]

like the main thing i wanna know is where the fuck do i go to change something i want like theres 10 million sections

[random elk]

sections?

[grizzled steppe]

lemme open dnspy

[random elk]

you would need to edit fsms to do the things you want

[grizzled steppe]

(i use that to find the stuff but there might be something better)

oh my god where the hell did dnspy download, every single time i download something like this i instantly forget where it is

like wtf are all of these is this even what i need to open

[random elk]

maybe this isn't the way to start

[grizzled steppe]

what is

[random elk]

try doing something simplier

[grizzled steppe]

like what

[random elk]

https://radiance.host/apidocs/Getting-Started.html

[grizzled steppe]

what there? theres... a ton of stuff there

[river vigil]

yeah I'm looking through the sections and I don't see anything specifically about modifying boss behavior

there has to be a class, function, or method for say hornet greenpath fight somewhere

oh I have an idea

this is coming from a noob but

you know about those mods on modinstaller that make a boss more difficult

maybe go through those dll files and see if that's any use

[random elk]

https://radiance.host/apidocs/PlayMakerFSM.html

[river vigil]

well

now I feel silly

[viscid aspen]

sure dm me

[river vigil]

I remember reading about TC using visual scripting, but I didn't put two and two together

[dusty stone]

am i missing something or is it supposed to be almost impossible to heal with HollowPoint? you have to overfill adrenaline, but you lose adrenaline when hit. probably doesn't help i'm using randomizer so i'm fighting bosses designed with mothwing in mind despite not having it.

[dry snow]

hello, so i downloaded a mod called "Art mod" and it changed the whole language and made the text into purple blocks.

is it normal ?

[random elk]

yes i think

the readme would know more tho

[dry snow]

the language change is pretty sick but the purple blocks are not

[lime iris]

Does anyone else think that traitor god is a little stupid?

I mean, it's not a bad fight but a few things could have been done better

[river vigil]

it's eh

wish he had more than 2 close range attacks

but I don't mind

[lime iris]

I dislike how most of the attacks require you to be a little away from him, then he does thorn pillars

And you die

[river vigil]

well you should def keep a lil distance

but not so much that he'll use projectiles

[lime iris]

I find the last phase crazy because all I'm not sure what he's going to do. I got him down to two hits remaining once. It was so annoying

I have no effective way to fight Phase 3, I more or less just spam DD

[random elk]

best way to beat him is to turn on invinsibility

[green marlin]

is there a mod that adds the effcts of kingsoul to void heart?

[gilded badge]

that would be cool

insted of having to buy jonis blessing

and getting soul while standing still or just walking around

[gusty ivy]

Hey, I would like some help regarding rng in HK

I would like to trace calls to UnityEngine.Random methods (mainly UnityEngine.Random.Range())

it seems I cannot patch UnityEngine.dll itself with dnspy, because the actual implementation is hidden?

[versed remnant]

What do you want to do?

[gusty ivy]

I could patch Assembly-CSharp.dll I guess on every code that calls UnityEngine.Random.Range(), but that seems a bit tedious

I want to see the returned values

[versed remnant]

That isn’t c#. That is c++

[gusty ivy]

really? I thought that is a managed library

[versed remnant]

It might be a mix.

Since UnityEngine should be the main engine code

And the engine isn’t written in c#

IDK

[gusty ivy]

oh ok, so maybe the interface is C# then

[versed remnant]

Yeah

[gilded sierra]

https://github.com/Unity-Technologies/UnityCsReference unity source code for reference. fwiw talking about game/unity code belongs more in #archived-modding-development, you're more likely to reach the people you need

[gusty ivy]

oh yeah thanks

[cinder leaf]

Just a simple question, is there a demo of silksong on switch?

[wicked berry]

no

also... #sk-discussion ?

[cinder leaf]

I'm new srry

[barren pebble]

I can't remember but was there a mod that made the rng in the game consistent?

[vagrant orbit]

QoL makes Uumuu consistent, but afaik that's it.

My understanding is that any given enemy type needs to be individually modded to have consistent RNG, which is a lot of work.

[grave skiff]

Is there a mod with custom charms for the installer?

[low pendant]

any mods that add to the game?

or like make an extension

[grave skiff]

add to the game.

[random elk]

Custom knight

Some skins change charms also

[random elk]

Test of teamwork

[grave skiff]

thanks

[indigo venture]

Is it possible to change any sprites that aren't the knight sprites? Spritepacker has Quirrel's sprites, so I was wondering if you can edit the sprites of enemies and bosses? Or maybe other NPCs?

[viscid aspen]

hm i dont think its compatible yet

im not the expert tho

[random elk]

Yes you can change them. #archived-modding-development would be the place to ask how

[viscid aspen]

WAIT REALLY

[low pendant]

thats not parkour

[minor tinsel]

that's literally a mod that adds a platforming segment

[low pendant]

lmao

:b

[granite flicker]

lol what's this supposed to be

[vagrant orbit]

Vsync

[granite flicker]

ah lol

[river vigil]

I have to use or else game isn't 60fps

and I don't have any problems with input lag

[vagrant orbit]

I may be incorrect here, but afaik Vsync never increases your FPS; it only attempt to lock it. And the built-in Vsync for HK has some issues, including a weird mix of dropping inputs and buffering them slightly (the delay).

Personally, I had it on for a long time before I started to actually noticed an issue with it, and that was only after I was playing rando for awhile and starting to more regularly do some more difficult things quickly, at which point the occasional inputs not going through when I expected them to was very noticeable.

If you're issue is like what mine became, in that disabling it puts the game at an absurdly high FPS, then you can either user your GPU's driver to limit it, or an external program to limit it, which is usually more consistent and recommended (which is why the menu was renamed).

[viscid aspen]

vsync sucks in EVERY SINGLE GAME

vsync prevents screen tearing on your game by individually loading the frame one by one and making the fps more stable, HOWEVER this makes what is shown on your screen not accurate to whats actually happening in the game. so if you click jump, the screen may show you jumping much later than what actually happened because its individually loading the frames

i am not a programming expert so correct me if im wrong though, but vsync just straight up sucks, especially in a fast paced combat game

[late lodge]

yes SFG made a enemy or boss (i dont recall) mod that allows you to give them custom skins, its on the readme doc (if i added it 👀)

ok its enemy's en its on there

[hexed nimbus]

i know that one

[random elk]

i dont believe you

[cunning hull]

help

can i download mods without mod installer

[random elk]

why would you not want to use the installer?

[cunning hull]

beacause this is not working

[late lodge]

whats not working and #archived-modding-help

[dry snow]

i have an idea: replace all spikes in white palace with pale king head spikes

but how do i edit the sprites

where do i find them

[river vigil]

what mod is that? doubt it will make radiant watcher knights any easier but

[river vigil]

time to blame vsync every time I die to a radiant boss

[hexed nimbus]

VSync video option

[river vigil]

that's in the base game?

[hexed nimbus]

yes, just named VSync i think

[river vigil]

yeah, but the question was what program can externally limit the framerate when vsync is turned off

cuz if I turn it off it turns into a stuttering mess

[river vigil]

like this

never seen this mod

[hexed nimbus]

that just renames the vsync text

[river vigil]

oh, I'm dumdum then

[hexed nimbus]

that depends on your machine if your graphics driver can do it, otherwise https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/rtss-rivatuner-statistics-server-download.html can do this

[river vigil]

currently going through forums, but I'll def be sure to check that out, saw rivatuner mentioned couple of times

[lilac pagoda]

Anyone know the commmand for unlimted soul?

the mod for it?

[minor tinsel]

debug mod

under cheats in the top right

i think, i forgot the name for the menu items

[fierce axle]

How do I revert back to vanilia

Modded is too laggy for discord to run at the same time

Save is backed up so Imma try and just uninstall and reinstall

It worked

[minor tinsel]

you can do revert to unmodded on modinstaller 1

or verify integrity of game files

for next time, so you don't have to uninstall and reinstall

[indigo venture]

What readme doc are you speaking of? And thank you!

[random elk]

It's pinned in #archived-modding-help

[pseudo palm]

how do i make a skinn for hollow knight

[viscid aspen]

change sprites

[dry snow]

mrmmm
progress, this is

[dry snow]

Is custom knight radius around the knight or a square

[nocturne sky]

rectangles

[nocturne sky]

eyyy, nice

[nocturne sky]

It's surprisingly easy

The hard part is making the sprites

[late lodge]

SFG made a mod for enemy's

[nocturne sky]

Ooh

Works like customknight?

[late lodge]

ye

[nocturne sky]

Interesting

[late lodge]

but not multiple skins

[nocturne sky]

Wdym?

[late lodge]

you cant switch between skins ingame

unless im wrong

which is possible as i've never used it

[nocturne sky]

Hm

Idk though

I prefer doing the reskinning manually, as it's an important part of the mods I wanna make

I don't wanna tell people to start loading up image folders just for a mod of mine

[late lodge]

lol

[nocturne sky]

I guess 'll look at it later, still

Can you link it?

[hexed nimbus]

#modding-discussion message

[nocturne sky]

Thanks

Is there a readme message anywhere?

[late lodge]

i put some on the readme doc

isn't much

[minor tinsel]

ooh what's this themed around? it looks cool

[late lodge]

pure vessel

[hexed nimbus]

hollow knight

[simple merlin]

Is there any Pure vessel skin?

[hexed nimbus]

idk

[simple merlin]

I found this on reddit

[dry snow]

What are some popular modded bosses?

[hexed nimbus]

royaldreamer, makes markoth easier

[pseudo palm]

can someone make a niko skin for me i tryed and it dident work and im tired

[abstract hornet]

Pale Champion also makes Pale Lurker slightly more difficult.

[buoyant rover]

the kid from one shot?

[pseudo palm]

yup

[buoyant rover]

i can do it

not for free tho

[minor tinsel]

@pseudo palm did you ever do this

[rose tartan]

My newest boss mod is finally done!

Corrupted Kin
A brand new boss mod that takes the Lost Kin boss fight and pushes it to 11

https://youtu.be/8vQiSoLYrao

[late lodge]

nice

[hexed nimbus]

maybe nerf the hitboxes a tiny bit

[rose tartan]

IKG also has been given an update:

• Parry Support
• Fixed a bug where troupe master grimm's text gets replaced in GodHome
• A secret new option in the settings menu
• Compatibility with Nightmare God Grimm ( your welcome Shandow 🙂 )
  https://github.com/nickc01/Inferno-King-Grimm/releases/tag/v3.0.0.0

[calm prism]

💯

[rose tartan]

And the WeaverCore Settings menu is now in the bottom-right corner to prevent conflict with other mods
https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/12601671/117055627-f8b20480-ace0-11eb-88de-7dbdb88a7d2f.gif

[late lodge]

with the yt link its ok but with the github link do <> around the link <link>

[random elk]

This is really cool

[late lodge]

oh the gif is also ok as theres something to see and its not full flasbang

[rose tartan]

yep, my bad

[minor tinsel]

HOLY SHIT THE LEVEL OF CREATIVITY

[viscid aspen]

honestly though if someone told me this was a scrapped boss for hollow knight from TC, i would believe em. this is impressive as shit

[indigo venture]

Is there an existing skin based on the hive? I thought it’d be cool to have a bee vessel with hivelings as glowing womb-spawned creatures. If not, I’d probably make one, but not if one already exists.

[stiff wolf]

I think there's bee hatchlings but I don't think anyone's done a bee knight?

[indigo venture]

I should do that

[fading ivy]

I'm excited to see how the mechanic of the stage-wide infection works in code.

[river vigil]

wait that's a mod in the making?

sign

me

up

tho hearing city of tear's happy music while the infection is taking over the city sounds wrong

[stiff wolf]

Think they're referencing a part of this.

[river vigil]

ah okay

[dry snow]

[late lodge]

bluetooth salubra

[dry snow]

personally i'm not bothered by it but understandable

[sharp raft]

gotta say

i like that corrupted kin mod

very well done to whoever made it

[hexed nimbus]

@rose tartan (sry for ping, but the appreciation goes your way)

[sharp raft]

yea most of the bosses mod are either "make existing attacks faster" or "put in another enemy" or something like that

but it really shows that a lot of thought went into this one

also those completely new mechanics that i never even imagined seeing from mods

almost wish that was the vanilla lost kin

[hexed nimbus]

i just won't ask what that pfp is

[sharp raft]

his pfp seems to be the letter N

[hexed nimbus]

already resolved

[quasi sedge]

hey, does anyone know of a mod that lets you tweak things like damage taken and dealt?

[weak plinth]

no

[quasi sedge]

[weak plinth]

you can change your dmg in save files

and you can change max health in saves

[quasi sedge]

ah yeah i gues

but i more meant like being constantly overcharmed

[weak plinth]

but there is no mod that dynamically changes every enemy's dmg

you could probably set overcharm state too

in save

[quasi sedge]

hell mod does it but also removes nail upgrades

quite annoying

[quasi sedge]

oh awesome

yeah i guess that works

[swift bison]

Just don’t change your charms in game

[weak plinth]

^

[swift bison]

Tmk that recalculated notches used

[weak plinth]

changing charms will update it

[quasi sedge]

yeah kind of a pain to do

could make the mod myself lmao

[random elk]

Imagine using notepad

[weak plinth]

done

[river vigil]

sweats in using notepad to adjust global settings like a noob

[hexed nimbus]

notepad is enough for most

• it starts really fast

[swift bison]

Yeah

[onyx salmon]

Bug ?

[hexed nimbus]

yea, i think the knight being a bug is canon

[onyx salmon]

lul

the charm bug and because of that i have an infinite dash

[late lodge]

infinite dash is a feature of blackmoth

grubberfly's elegy is a very late game charm

[onyx salmon]

its very cheat overpowered

and, okay xD

[simple merlin]

I made Hollow Knight's Knight as the original Hollow Knight (pure vessel) Obviously it is badly done because I did it in 5 minutes XD

[next flax]

I think it looks good maybe making the coat slightly more blue to reflect his design

[sinful bison]

would there be a way to change the sprite of a single enemy? i wanna change a sprite of an enemy to something else but idk how

[swift bison]

Sfgrenade made a mod for that a while ago

[sinful bison]

oh did they?

what was it called

[swift bison]

This I think

It’s not on the installer, you can get it by downloading the file, then using the manually install mods button on the installer

[sinful bison]

okay

thanks!

[slim tree]

Can someone make a version of the Knight with the horns of the dead vessel found in the Mothwing Cloak room in Greenpath?

[swift bison]

Nah

I won’t

Not good at art

[slim tree]

lmao

I was just thinking of a skin of the knight with the Greenpath Vessel's horns and possibly a light blue cloak.

[scarlet moss]

i could possibly do it

[slim tree]

[barren wharf]

I was actually doing that

[slim tree]

Really?

[barren wharf]

Yeah. Looks like I never told you about the project

[slim tree]

hm

K cuz I really liked the Greenpath Vessel's horns and wondered if anyone was working on a skin for it.

[fickle charm]

do you want a mod that only makes you take double damage?

[quasi sedge]

Yeah

that’s all it does

[nocturne sky]

Aren't there like three different people working on something like this

it's the most requested vessel skin there is

right after that is the one with the horns facing down

[harsh oar]

How easy is it to make a custom skin?

On phone or iPad ^

[nocturne sky]

if you're skilled then it's probably simply tedious

but it's probably easier on pc because of all the tools you can use

[silver garden]

You literally just draw each sprite.

And you need about 1,000 to make a reasonably workable skin

[harsh oar]

oh no

[viscid aspen]

speaking of skins, i am ready to make another skin

i legit thought that i wont want to make another skin after angel knight but here we are

[nocturne sky]

Eyy, nice

Any ideas already or do you want us to throw you some?

[viscid aspen]

throw me fuckin ideas

[nocturne sky]

Well

This is kinda for selfish reasons

BUT

It will benefit a lot of people

Do you think you can make one where the knight's cloak is only the black framework?

Leaving the colored areas transparent?

This will basically allow anyone to take it and paste any color pattern at all into it

As for actual skin ideas

Going for something with probably the same complexity as Angel Knight

[nimble lichen]

https://prashantmohta.github.io/HollowKnight.SkinRemixer/

You can do that already on this tool I'm working on

[nocturne sky]

Oho

Nice, nice

thanks dandy

how's multiplayer going

Anyways back to the skin ideas

Maybe something with a little spiked crown?

[nimble lichen]

Have some personal stuff so laying low for a bit

[nocturne sky]

Those always look cool

[nocturne sky]

Ah, good luck then

[nimble lichen]

I'd love something with separate layers for eyes , horns etc so that making detailed masks is easier and then you could recolour and remix skins easier.

[nocturne sky]

Oh, like that thing where people make vessels

uhhh

vessel maker

or something

[nimble lichen]

Yes vessel maker

[nocturne sky]

picrew?

I think

not sure

[nimble lichen]

But for in-game sprites

[nocturne sky]

So how does the remixer work?

I looked at it, not what I'd've expected

[nimble lichen]

I made a basic mask for knight.png effects , so currently you can remix the attack from one skin and put it onto another skin aswell

And recolor the effects

And cloak on default knight sprites

[nocturne sky]

Wait so you already have a wire framework outline sheet?

I;d love it if you can give it

Actually

How long did it take to make?

[nimble lichen]

It's a really rough mask, probably not of much use beyond recoloring

https://github.com/PrashantMohta/HollowKnight.SkinRemixer

It'd be slashmaskinv.png in here

[nocturne sky]

Hm

It looks odd

Is it the black areas?

[nimble lichen]

Yes the black parts are the parts that will be affected by the recolor / skin swap

[barren wharf]

So something like that?

[nimble lichen]

He looks super cute I think

[barren wharf]

Thank You!

[viscid aspen]

didnt you already send this

[barren wharf]

Using it as an example

[viscid aspen]

when will you finish a skin

[barren wharf]

It depends on if I am motivated to work on one

[viscid aspen]

fair

[paper peak]

Any chance anyone could make a local multiplayer mod? I want to get someone into the game, but he doesn't want to play it alone, and the online multiplayer mod isn't to our liking.

[late lodge]

well its possible

but hard