put this in modding help cause I'm dumb,
I'm doing the randomizer with items randomized only with a friend and I got vengeful spirit but they didnt how would they get past the baldur blocking greenpath
#modding-discussion
split wedge
viscid aspen
can i promote my hk skin here
errant lance
probably missing something somewhere, check fury, fk chest, both shops (save sly).
barren wharf
What is the skin
viscid aspen
What is the skin
the skin i made called blood knight
barren wharf
May I see it?
split wedge
probably missing something somewhere, check fury, fk chest, both shops (save sly...
yeah we pretty much got every item (I'm 99% sure) and they got nothing lol
errant lance
What do they have
split wedge
What do they have
they have, 2 rancid eggs, simple key, quill, unbreakable heart and baldur shell, the stores dont have anything
errant lance
Does grubfather have anything and did they kill mawlek
split wedge
nothing good from grubfather mawlek is a shout tho thanks
obtuse trail
,.. mnkmn
barren wharf
Making a skin
minor tinsel
cool 
slim stag
I believe there's a mod out there that turns the player into little hornet.
swift bison
There are 2 skins, not a mod tho @slim stag
slim stag
Ok
minor tinsel
i thought there was a mod that replaced the assets
actually i guess it’s not really a mod, but it replaces the game files directly
limber ingot
hey, is there a sprite dump for hollow knight?
minor tinsel
@limber ingot #art-discussion pins
limber ingot
thanks!
charred shale
What does the "Duplicate major items" button in randomizer 3 do?
silver garden
It duplicates major items. 😖
So like Claw, Dash, Dive, and a few others get extra copies. Pretty sure it's in the read me
nocturne sky
lmao torbie this is the exact same question I asked like two weeks ago
What were you planning to make?
@viscid aspen Real nice skin, love the detail on the charms!
How long did it take to make?
knotty relic
What were *you* planning to make?
i'm not that sure but i wanted to change hornet
i don't know how much or to what but i do want to
nocturne sky
or, you know, giving her a lacy cloak
itll look pretty on her, I suppose
anyhow, it doesnt work with customknight, but it's supposed to be fairly simple compared to other things
viscid aspen
<@!293074284098748416> Real nice skin, love the detail on the charms!
thanks!
if i remember correctly, it took like 3 days
nocturne sky
stoic obsidian
Hey, is there a way to hide all the objects of a room so you only see the background?
haughty grove
casually b whipping up pale hornet with the boys B)
swift bison
Good mod idea
haughty grove
i know
slim stag
So I was thinking about creating a hollow knight fangame. It takes place before the pale king arrived and I was wondering if I am allowed to borrow background images from the game.
errant lance
as long as they arent for profit you can do what you want iirc
slim stag
My art can't even turn a profit so what are the chances of a game doing so.
Anyways thanks.
haughty grove
Here's Pale Hornet! I changed the Hornet Sentinel boss room to have a lot of stuff from The White Palace
It's my first modded thing so I don't guarantee it's that good
abstract hornet
@haughty grove Gave it a go and beat it on attuned. It might be better to change the room slightly to have both sides open but the saw moving across the entire floor (maybe a bit slower). It is beatable in its current form but it's a bit annoying if you get bad RNG with spike balls or Hornet's thread shield as you don't have much room to avoid attacks. Pogoing Hornet and the right saw blade seemed to work best with shade dashing when dived/jumped to thread shield.
errant lance
you don't need to spoiler tag here, are you looking for a skin or something?
haughty grove
<@!619626239161794560> Gave it a go and beat it on attuned. It might be better t...
Thanks for the feedback, I'll go improve it
wicked berry
has an arachnophobic mod been made for hollow knight yet? like removing those enemies entirely, or maybe replacing the sprites and sound with some other ones? is there anyone i could commission to make it?
grave valley
a skin
errant lance
its in the pins
errant lance
has an arachnophobic mod been made for hollow knight yet? like removing those en...
yes but it was a while ago give me like 15 minutes or so to find it
wicked berry
Thank you
abstract hornet
It's a good idea though - making the room smaller with having to deal with the saws is a good idea. But with its current form staying on the left is the safest with only needing to move for thread shield. Still fun though. Best of luck with it!
grave valley
I searched but could not find 😅
errant lance
stiff wolf
I'm trying to pack some spell animations with spritepacker - it will let me pack Spell Effects and Spell Effects Neutral but it doesn't see Spell Effects 2. any ideas?
apparently i fixed it nvm
minor tinsel
if i remember correctly, it took like 3 days
3 days? wow
viscid aspen
3 days? wow
i mean its not too detailed or anything
wicked berry
I used decoration to make a slightly harder sheo
tell me if you think the dark room is too much. i wanted to make it a bit claustrophobic
minor tinsel
is there a drive with all of the decoration mod levels?
wicked berry
beating it on attuned shouldn't be too challenging, but radiant might require memorizing the top platforms
i haven't heard of such a drive, no
you should make one
i should probably do it on radiant, since i made it and all
haughty grove
King's Path:
Harder King's Pass, you don't need double jump or dash until the last part
wicked berry
i can hear the saws already
@haughty grove one of the hazard respawns is on the thorns
at the very beginning of the thorns
haughty grove
Oh, I'll go fix that
wicked berry
apparently i was on a steel soul file, that didn't even register
ohhhh that's what the rectangles are for
haughty grove
That problem should be solved, here's the upgraded version!
haughty grove
Oh
haughty grove
Yeah
wicked berry
also you know you can make it so people can't double jump or dash in certain areas, right?
haughty grove
I could do that?
wicked berry
like if you put your double jump and dash ban right before the section with double jump and dash, people can hit it
haughty grove
Oooh okay
wicked berry
am i supposed to use them to get to the crusher?
haughty grove
Yup
wicked berry
this one is pretty fun. nice
haughty grove
Thank you!
wicked berry
are you supposed to be able to stand between the crushers?
haughty grove
Nah, I'll fix that too
wicked berry
also, the spike after the focus lore tablet are hard to see, don't know if that bothers you or if it was intentional
only found them by accident trying to pogo the vengefly
haughty grove
It was intentional for those sawblades to be hidden
wicked berry
i'm pretty sure it's spikes, are we talking about the same place?
haughty grove
Oh after it, yeah they're supposed to be hidden too
wicked berry
oh ok
final thing, i managed to slip into the hole after the stompers that goes to fury of the fallen. idk if that was intentional to allow people to get the charm but i thought i'd let you know about that as well
haughty grove
Oh, yeah you're not supposed to be there, let me fix that too, thanks for the constructive criticism!
wicked berry
np!
i'd love to see a lot of new content made for this game
i'd also love feedback on the paintmaster fight, but i get that not everyone wants to playtest
haughty grove
Not a lot bad about it except the yellow paint attack is very hard to dodge
wicked berry
yeah you need shade cloak
i was more concerned about the purple attack falling on you
i guess i could use the coloured rectangles to show the safe spots
haughty grove
Yeah probably
wicked berry
as for the yellow attack, you have to rely on the sound cue. he has a specific sound cue he only uses for that attack and the purple one i think. it lets you know its coming and you can jump -> shade cloak to get through
how do you get the "invusible attack helper" thingy to not show up?
haughty grove
I don't know what you're talking about, but I think the sawblades are a little much, once or twice I was knocked into them trying to dodge the purple attack's slam part
wicked berry
much as in too big or just unnecessary?
because without them sheo just gets bullied, right now they give him a safe spot
haughty grove
about like 3/4 would be good
wicked berry
so like would the right saw stop right before the first leg of the canvas or the second leg
i'll probably remove the purple rain altogether
Here's the new version. I think i made the saws smaller but I don't remember what size they were
I could also make it so that there's no dark mode and you can actually see and dodge the purple rain, but then it'll be uglier
wicked berry
runic pumice
Maître Peintre Sheo
wicked berry
that's him
wicked berry
yeah it's not meant to be insanely difficult
it just reduces your options a bit, compared to the regular fight where you can do pretty much anything you want
slow vale
the pink attack is basically negated though
wicked berry
There's a version where it isn't.
pretty sure it's rng on radiant
maybe the version i posted first isn't rng, it has smaller saws
slow pollen
idk if this is the right chat but in the item rando mod, what does world sense do, i dont understand the description
errant lance
world sense is the ability you get in the black egg, tells you the % cmpletion
slow pollen
ahhhh that makes sense, thankyou
abstract hornet
@wicked berry That looks good, but is there a way to still have paint fall for the pink and blue blobs?
wicked berry
not all of it that i could find
wait, maybe
but it's hard to see them with dark mode
abstract hornet
I suspect only pink would be an issue.
wicked berry
well, it depends on how fast you want him to be able to jump
that's the point of the low ceiling
if the ceiling is low, it'll interact with blue blobs as well
abstract hornet
True. The claustrophobic boss maps look pretty interesting.
wicked berry
yeah they're pretty fun. you have to respect bosses that you didn't have to before
the fact that you can ban abilities is also very fun
If I were to be able to keep the blob attacks, should I remove the dark room part? It won't look good, but I don't know how reactible they are with it
abstract hornet
I'm not sure, personally. You don't want it to look empty but with darkness it might not give enough time to react. It's current form is good, it just feels that you can ignore a good bit of his attacks.
wicked berry
yeah. I thought about keeping some attacks as sort of safe spots you can memorize and stand under for those attacks
*platforms, not attacks
abstract hornet
Changing one thing can lead to other things getting changed. Not always easy to make everything work.
Still, that's a neat idea for bosses! Someone else did a map for Hornet 2.
wicked berry
the problem was if you stood under them it put you into a 50/50 for getting hit afterwards, but with the new strat i can give it a shot
abstract hornet
Earlier today.
wicked berry
yeah, i tried that
It's really cool having more accessible ways to create stuff like this
wicked berry
thanks! means a lot to get good feedback on stuff like this
wicked berry
i'm starting to understand why serdea used saws and not so many thorns
there's just not that many way to design them if they can't overlap. This leaves saws as the best way to block the player - for now
wicked berry
I can't tell if I'm playing bad or if the level is too hard
abstract hornet
For what thing?
abstract hornet
I think it's very doable in the current version you had a video for.
wicked berry
oh yeah that version is fine. I'm happy with it, even if it takes away the pink attack (and the red attack, but there's nothing i can do about that one)
abstract hornet
Ah, gotcha! Which version is too hard?
wicked berry
i made one that looked like this
abstract hornet
That looks delightfully evil.
wicked berry
there were two issues with it, the problem is they combined into what I'm pretty sure is an undodgeable attack
You can only see the purple goop falling on the right and left sides, not in the middle because there's a color fill in
which is fine, just go to the sides when he does the purple attack
but if you're not in the middle, he can decide to position himself in a way that if you dash through him, you have to run under the middle part before the pink attack ends, if you dash away you go into the saw, and if you dash towards him and time it, you run into him
the only solution i could think of was like dash master and downwards dash
abstract hornet
Well, there's also descending dark.
wicked berry
i actually took away spells on that map, because they would make it really easy
abstract hornet
But as long as you see where one blob drops you can kind of gauge safe spots. It's not foolproof if you have to move.
wicked berry
and also nailmaster, no spells, kinda fits
abstract hornet
Ah, that will definitely boost the challenge.
wicked berry
I mean it's not super challenging. I think on the first one the radiant took a dozen minutes
and on the new one, which is the screenshot you saw but a bit easier, it also took about ten minutes
abstract hornet
Maybe, but simply because something isn't super challenging doesn't mean it can't be a lot of fun. I think Tribe of Battle and Inferno King Grimm are really fun boss mods even if they aren't the hardest ones.
wicked berry
this would be what i have right now
I can absolutely put the black fill back in and move the right saw back where it was, it would only take a minute
I also had an idea to make the goop work in dark room, but that'll have to wait until tomorrow
abstract hornet
Gotcha, at the end of the day it's what you think will work well. Folks are probably going to have fun adding stuff to boss rooms for a while.
wicked berry
oh, right. big downside to this one is that he can get stuck if he jumps towards you at the start. it's easy to circumvent but it kind of feels bad that it's there. Not sure i can fix it either, I have no idea what causes it.
abstract hornet
Jumping from the red attack?
wicked berry
He never does the right attack if he doesn't have enough space
He jumps, lands and then gets stuck in a weird pose
it's only if his first move is a jump, and he'll never jump if you move next to him at the start, but eh
abstract hornet
Curious. I wonder if we'll find other oddities as folks modify arenas for bosses.
Is it possible to start the knight next to him to prevent that?
wicked berry
but then you could just move away before he screams
and cause it regardless
he's only stuck until he gets staggered, which i guess means I could call it a feature and make it easy mode
I'm going to call it a night for now, I'll be in this channel if I have updates
abstract hornet
Have a good night!
neon sigil
Hello, I am new here 
I have been nerding out on randos (just starting my journey 😅 ) & I'm excited to meet more people in the community! Hope this is the right channel... & hope everyone is having a good night
keen owl
https://i.gyazo.com/26929f187755f1ef62ac5d8bb5b14a1f.jpg
what a cute little fella lol
(yes that's a traitor lord haha)
rapid burrow
Hello, I am new here <:willoh:777131050027581440> I have been nerding out on ran...
May I point you towards the chat command ?role randomizer racer and the #randomizer channel for rando rando playing, (unless you wanna develop mods or something then stay 👀)
Happy you've gotten to nerd out and enjoy the mod :3
brazen elk
How to mod non steam hk
rapid burrow
what does non steam hk mean?
ripe forge
versions of hollow knight that aren’t downloaded from steam
rapid burrow
silver garden
You can only use mods on the Steam or Good Old Games versions of Hollow Knight.
Unless you specifically come up with a way to mod other versions. That'd be rad.
nocturne sky
customknight skin progress goes here, right?
burnt pilot
yeah
mortal dove
Heyo can someone send me a link to a hollow knight randomizer? Enemys, areas, itens etc. Please also tag me so i find it later, still on work
errant lance
?i
fathom wigeonBOT
Reminder: The mod installer (https://radiance.host/mods/ModInstaller.exe) and other modding resources can be found from the pinned messages.
mortal dove
ancient copper
does anyone know what happnened to the pale court mod ?
raw lichen
it is under development
mental steeple
how to i make it so that my freind can join me on hollowknight multiplayer?
weak plinth
host: has server and client mods. connects first to their own IP
guest: has only client mod. connects second to the host's IP
IP being the IP listed in hamachi
mental steeple
what's hamachi?
weak plinth
mental steeple
cheers
ancient copper
ive seen some trailers about it all the way back in may 13th is it close to realease or whats happening with it caus id love to play it
@raw lichen
raw lichen
It's not close to release
wicked berry
has anyone here used the decoration master mod?
rapid burrow
a lot of people. If you want a tutorial, fireb0rn made one I think?
wicked berry
yeah, i took a look at that
it's about the twinkle platform and the color palette
both have a green text that says "unvisable attack helper" over them
is there any way to hide or remove this
as of right now
only way i found to hide is off-screen or behind specific foreground elements
neon sigil
May I point you towards the chat command `?role randomizer racer` and the <#5827...
thank you for the help!
?role randomizer racer
fathom wigeonBOT
@rapid burrow, you left Randomizer Racer.
rapid burrow
?rank randomizer racer @neon sigil i solved it 
fathom wigeonBOT
That rank doesn't exist.
neon sigil
?rank randomizer racer
fathom wigeonBOT
@neon sigil, you joined Randomizer Racer.
wicked berry
Addendum: at the beginning of the fight, make sure to walk towards Sheo, otherwise he'll get glitched until you stagger him.
wicked berry
Has anyone made a drive for custom levels yet?
rapid burrow
I think skurry made one at some point, i dont think i personally saw a link ever tho
@elfin pagoda i think we need help
mental steeple
host: has server and client mods. connects first to their own IP
guest: has only...
it doesn't work
are there any mods that have to be or can't be enabled for it to work?
weak plinth
yes. client mod and server mod
which probably also will install modcommon by default
wicked berry
Normal sheo is in a dark room, but his pink rain is completely removed. The saws are slightly bigger.
Hard Sheo is not in a dark room, but there is pink rain. The location of the droplets is obscured on most of the screen, so you have to move to either extremity of the arena to dodge them.
Even the hard one shouldn't be hard on attuned, I rated their difficulty based on the radiant fights.
yeah i guess that's the best way to find out
wicked berry
https://youtu.be/pbV-is3cwv4
this one isn't as changed as the sheo fight
wicked berry
Claustrophobic Sheo - Bright Room
dry snow
i was wondering, is there a mode that allows for save states like an emulator
errant lance
debug
haughty grove
Here's part one of a project I'm doing of making the entire map make Path of Pain look average, this includes King's Pass and a little Dirtmouth, feel free to tell me what you think!
tepid tangle
Is Enraged Guardian actually hardwired to appear more in randomizers
sick pewter
OH MY GOD
slow pollen
can you still get achievements when using mods
errant lance
steam : yes
gog : no
abstract hornet
That looks neat.
wicked berry
ah, I was wondering how to do something with elder hu. Pretty neat.
Maybe cheesable, but I feel like the cheese might be harder than the actual strat
I wonder if I should tell
Well, if you equipped dashmaster, couldn't you just stand in the standing position
and downwards shade dash when the attack happens
I had the same problem with the massive moss charger map
So I made a cubby
not the most elegant solution
but it works
kind of
actually, probably not
yeah no, you can dash really low with it
lavender?
oh
hmm
I mean, i don't think it matters too much
this is still early development for the mod
and people who play this are people who want to fight the boss anyway
my sheo battle has a game breaking glitch if you let him jump towards you at the start, but no one has any reason to exploit it
hahahahah yeah
i had the same issue
are there normally spikes on elder hu's ceiling?
can you link the vid?
i meant in vanilla gameplay
your fight makes my thumb hurt
i did it!
that's fun
that's very fun
I wanna radiant it but it's past midnight
I'll give more feedback tomorrow
I'm sad that there isn't a way to disable shade cloak in the mod yet
oh, I meant making shade cloak not a thing on top of this
that way you'd have to vary your pogo height, and pay attention to the positioning of the pancakes more
ascended is dead
silver garden
You could do it in debug mode and then remove shade cloak
nocturne sky
steam : yes
gog : no
shouldn't achievements be disabled?
curious if its possible at all
shouldnt making the rings slightly faster already make shade cloak weaker?
wicked berry
uh
The thing is that we don't have any modding knowledge
We're using decoration mod
but we can't make rings faster and such
Also, TamiJo, we can disable shade cloak for ourselves but we can't disable them for whoever plays, unless we also send over the save file
Which I guess is an option but it's more complicated
frigid flint
Anybody know how to install mods on a ps4 (if that is possible)
i want the multiplayer mod
raw lichen
not possible
wicked berry
I haven't had that issue when i played around with conveyor belts
wait how did you overlap the thorns without making them all twitchy looking
...
wow ok
Good to know
I could've made the sheo fight look good
I just didn't know how things worked
oh well, too late now
as for putting them below the ground, so did I
because apparently the green rectangle is the hitbox that affects the knight and the actual sprite is what moves bosses, I guess
and you say it makes you slide
are you sure your edit menu wasn't open?
uh
hmm
maybe it's specific to traitor lord?
I tested it just now with mmc, ended the fight touching the conveyor and i woke up just fine
Also, for anyone using the decoration master mod. The background crystal you can add but not remove as far as I'm aware. I had to delete the map to get it to go away. Hitting it with the edit menu open, whether it be with spell or nail, just got it to break.
can you make a wall and then crystal cling to it just to test it?
noclip might be the reason you're moving during the "cutscene" transition between the fight and waking up
also, I'm very intrigued by that screenshot
what purpose do the disappearing platforms serve here
holy shit I have just made a discovery
pure badge
Is there a game time stopper for the speed run achievement or a sudden all map reveal? im kinda curious about this mod
wicked berry
Hmm
so it's kind of what I did with sheo
but only happens sometimes
oh, there's a video on it now
basically, I made a low ceiling so that sheo would bonk his head
the result is that he still jumps the same horizontal distance, but he does it way faster
He doesn't do the red paint attack if he has a ceiling
unless it's the first attack he does, in which case he tries and it glitches him for the first phase
not the first phase
until the first stagger
is it finished?
yeah
I actually didn't figure out that I didn't have to hide the green text that shows up next to certain object
until after I was done with sheo
I could have made that fight look so much better
like the color fill and the disappearing platforms
abstract hornet
I'll give that a try later on. Claustrophobia rooms look pretty fun.
So what you're saying is... don't get hit. 
wicked berry
"I found a glitch, but it only affects bad players so who cares"
abstract hornet
Hopefully there is a way to fix it.
wicked berry
There's something similar in the sheo fight, where getting hit into the saw may respawn you inside sheo with no i-frames, totalling 4 damage from 1 hit
Except in your case, you respawn inside the thorns?
dry snow
I mighta posted in the wrong spot so im move it here...
Okay so... I discovered that Hollow Point does not work with Custom Knight stuff
That sucks cause I found a skin that made the knight a rabbit. I wannted to make him kill bunny
If theres a way to like make them both work it'd probs take some doing huh?
wicked berry
You might be triggering a different hazard respawn point by running into the thorns at different places
I am making amazing discoveries right now
According to fireb0rn, yeah
My thought process is that maybe if you make a new hazard respawn, you could somehow fit it to have priority?
Well, experiment with it I guess? Like make a copy of your map and then edit it until something works
I'm working on something right now, so I can't help
This game has sliding physics on bosses ❤️
I meant I can't help by trying out stuff on my side
I'll still try to help with the little knowledge I have
can you show me where you normally respawn and where you respawn when the glitch happens?
unvisable
but a lot of items get "unvisable attack helper", I think it just shows you the hitbox for where to hit to delete the item
coincidentally, that happens to be the item hitbox that affect the knights on the conveyors
ohhhhh
that makes sense
yeah, I was really confused about those because I thought "what's the point of color blocks if theres big green text over it"
i figured it out when I saw it disappear on the conveyor belts
would there be a way to make dark room nosk not be completely rng? I'm making something else right now, so dark room isn't really an option, but I still think it could be fun
yeah, that's what I meant
It goes away after you reload the room
So I kinda wish I had used it
but now I know
yeah
I might try to figure it out later
right now I'm trying to make something incredibly ambitious
fun fact, nosk will climb any vertical surface you give him, and he will slide down and gain great momentum from slopes
(((:
it's great, because I have so many other tools I can also use!
hexed nimbus
a true jump n run, nothing else
wicked berry
nahhhhh that would be boring
This is going to be so much more fun
pog
another fun fact is that you can hide boss movement using the color fill
this might turn out to be complete garbage
but if it does i'll have experience to make a good one
wicked berry
we're using a specific mod made to add decor elements to a level
originally built to make platforming segments
We just decided to make boss rooms with it, but we can't change the boss itself, remake the room, etc
we have limited options
Oh my god the gates work too
wicked berry
there's so much jank I can do I don't know what to include
I think I'll go with "technically you can dodge this consistently"
I'll also make an easy mode I think
swift bison
Hmmmm
Boss editor
What if
Playmaker editor
But in game
So you can edit bosses
wicked berry
That's an option?
swift bison
Good idea
wicked berry
Hm
I'd like to remove the stuff that's there, but that's probably just part of decoration mod, just not implemented yet.
wicked berry
Thanks
swift bison
Where do I start
lol
There’s so much to do
Does playmakerEditor.dll work when in game?
How should I add a button to edit a enemy’s fsm
So much
Ok I’m having some ideas
You enter in the name for a object and the name of the fsm on the object
Then you press a button and the editor pulls up
Once done editing, I’ll have some fancy code compare the changed version to the original and make the changes on room load.
Easy
wicked berry
oo
I don't know if it's possible but I love it anyway
It doesn't look bad, I know, but he moves
let me record it
oh wait maybe you can just ddark spam it, nosk doesn't have much health
Well, they're for atmosphere
but they also hide his movement
I wanted to make them lower, but this is hard enough
Honestly this is a very nerfed version of what I wanted to do
I'll explain it after I share the video, otherwise it'll be hard to understand
ok, there might be a safe way to hit him
so attuned may be consistent
dammit hold on there's a glitch
i don't know
but now it's getting broken give me a few minutes
I just realized I can force camera follow and put shit off screen
swift bison
?saves
fathom wigeonBOT
Saves
Windows File Paths: (Assumes Default Steam Install Path, Adjust accordingly for DRM Free or Non-Standard Steam Path)
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wicked berry
:v smart
I think I fixed all the bugs
now to see if I can beat it
I'm not even close
Ooooh yeah I want to make one like that as well
Once I'm done making worse gpz
winter garnet
How do the challenges work
wicked berry
uh, except he got glitched and this time I have no way to fix it
also, I'm calling it worse gpz because its movement is fun
except right now it's just doing the ceiling attack over and over and nothing else
winter garnet
Are the challenges like community challenges or what
wicked berry
depends. skin challenges? Yeah
winter garnet
So if 1 person does it everyone gets it?
wicked berry
holy shit he stopped doing the ceiling attack, what happened
oh, no
i didn't get what you meant
winter garnet
Are they all made public eventually
winter garnet
Oh
wicked berry
I'm kind of thinking it's possible to be consistent on attuned
but i'm also getting frame drops
True, but then my nosk couldn't be in it 😦
Just kidding, please don't put this in a pantheon
winter garnet
I want the ornigiri skin so bad but the challenges are way to hard for me
wicked berry
you'll get there in time
wicked berry
@dry snow https://youtu.be/XnLKPmA-IJo
Ok, attuned can defo be consistent because of low hp
now for ascended, all I would need to do is remake the middle platform, right?
nope, it's a completely different map
I'd need to remake the whole arena
making it harder would be easy
i held back on this
abstract hornet
I for one look forward to whatever craziness you come up with.
wicked berry
absolutely you can
and i guess so but the point of this isn't to make anyrad 3.0
I still want the fight to be fair
Because you're right, I could absolutely make this 100 times crazier. I had plans to.
I mean that'll come later when I remake the absrad fight
I have a lot of ideas for that
but now I'm trying to get more used to the tools I have before I do that, because i want that one to be insane
Well, there is one thing I was trying to do at the start
Which was to use those spears that come in and out of the ground
To make his movement even more janky
by turning them upside down
yeah
The other thing I wanted to do, and that I now know is possible even if it's extremely hard
Is make him climb wayyyyyyy up the sides
and then do a pachinko machine
with the twinkle platforms
but that's actual rng
although
they're the disappearing ones
the mod calls them that
when you click the little arrow to the left of the UI
Oo
Wait is there a way to make one way gates
Because you could make it so people had to run laps around flukemarm
and they only get a few hits on the top every lap
yuh huh
OR
WAIT
What if you had a series of gates and levers
And the way to hit flukemarm is to open all the levers
but to open each lever you have to hit the previous one because it's guarded by a gate
because you can make one lever open two gates
oh my god static bosses are so cool
I never thought I would say this
You genius
let me try to make an example
but I need to ban abyss shriek on my nosk map first
it shows off the color fills 😦
annnd it's cheese
wait, I'll try to demo it
Yeah, when you scream it makes the outline really obvious
minor tinsel
can you make a lever close one gate and open another?
wicked berry
you can't close gates yet
minor tinsel
oh
like, i was thinking maybe you put a bunch of levers on flukemarm
and when you attack her through an open gate, you hit the lever which closes the current gate and opens another one
maybe a bit annoying though
i kinda want to try making a decoration mod markoth
idk though
it’s probably just be budget royal dreamer
tepid wasp
how do I downlowd a skin
minor tinsel
can levers trigger anything?
like can they trigger thorns to appear
and also can decoration mod objects deal damage to bosses
wicked berry
Ok, I'm going to try to demonstrate my idea
either I video it or I stream it
oh god I just fought nosk and he jumpscared me
I like, saw him climb one side of the arena
so I went to the other
and then as i reached the end he just dropped in front of me. straight down, not even at an angle
And then immediately went back up as i ran the other way
https://youtu.be/2UUKnIQnkEo @dry snow @minor tinsel
Could be tweaked by putting the levers in the wall and having more room to play with
you could even make it a platforming section
wait, can you activate levers with spells?
tepid wasp
can I get a mod instaler link
wicked berry
If so, you could make it so that you have to use spells to activate them
wait no because then you can hit flukemarm
@tepid wasp in the pinned messages
I know right
what are you working on
Wait, shotgun the hollow knight
dibs
He has sound cues I want to play with that
because PV doesn't have enough
I wanted to make it so that you only had a small area in the middle to move arouund in
and then all of the sides would be black and obscured so you had to rely on sound
but pv doesn't have tells enough
oh yeah slopes are awesome
Especially with goo
Wait, how would the watcher knights work with slopes
would they jump
They don't 😦
wait, do you think I can start stuff inside the ground and push them out with the spears
minor tinsel
chrome that’s really cool!
maybe if there was some way to make the gate close after a bit
wicked berry
wait, do you think I can start stuff inside the ground and push them out with th...
I CAN
It pushes them out
You can now make whatever ground you want for your arena
well, except all spikes
wicked berry
Yeah, I thought about sporgs
For absrad phase 6
and probably a line of spikes to keep you from going above the screen
and disappearing platform parkour for phase 5
and alternating platforms for phase 4
I just need to think of something for phases 1-3
maybe a really slow saw off the side
that being said, can't think of anything with watcher knights
for sisters of battle?
Something really easy would be a spike floor, but that's kind of boring
how about a laser
How about two lasers
One for if you jump and one for if you're on the ground
and so you have to alternate between being in the air and on the ground
and if you want to control the timing of the lasers, you can use the disappearing platforms and put them in front of the lasers
And if you let the lasers last their full duration, the player has to full jump full double jump dash to avoid them
or pogo
so it's pretty fun
let me see if I can pull a pro gamer move to make ascended nosk
and to make sure you don't get hit before you can move, you can make a little gate with a lever below the ground and then hit that as the fight begins
yeah
is the laser idea interesting at all?
Time to see if I'm a genius
What
I'll check it out in like 2 minutes
try placing it outside the blue rectangle?
but that's just the hazard respawn
it's there because there are spikes in the arena
uh
maybe it's bigger for mantis lords?
Man I want to look
I am an evil genius
I managed to copy paste my layout onto the ascended arena
Yeah, I copied the file into a text editor, replaced all instances of the area's name with the other area's name, then pasted that into the new document I had just made by placing a couple saws
now i have the opportunity to make it a lot harder
but let's not yet
I'll wait until someone beats this on radiant, if ever
I lied i made it a bit harder
a lot harder
I had to
ascended arena
Yeah but also people are better than me at the game
also like spell spamming and all that
only abyss shriek is forbidden
I'm fine with someone beating this with ddark spam
But I don't think it's necessary
I mean yeah this is probably as hard as absrad to radiant
oops
shade dash it is
He goes faster if you hit him
hahaha
I'm just putting this boss out with the disclaimer that it might not be possible
I was wondering if those would work like that
wait, what's the difference
ah, gotcha
unbind attack on your controller and keep it only bound on your keyboard
quaint patio
I love how this mod is stealing the spotlight from all others as of recently
wicked berry
I mean now everyone gets to make mods
that's insanely cool
that's like a full complete new game
quaint patio
mods are cool
wicked berry
That's like if people modded mario
and you added your own boss to mario
and then someone else made a kaizo
quaint patio
but being creative is another level
wicked berry
and then someone else made a recolor or new sprites
quaint patio
Hollow Knight became Mario Maker
wicked berry
and then someone comes around and says "Hey, I made Mario Maker"
I mean kaizo is cool
but mario maker is kaizo but more
did you know you're a genius
also, modded arenas for base game bosses?
oh my god we're eventually going to kaizo the entire game
the technology to make rooms come in whatever order we want is already there with room randos
We can make a new game with hollow knight
this is actually hollow knight maker
what
Yeah but not just remake all of crossroads, remake everything. You can make it only ten rooms long, or a boss rush of exactly the bosses you want, or anything
actually anything
didn't redfrog say that was also part of their plans? I don't want to put any pressure on them though
but like they mentioned enemy and boss customizers
What's a good name for the insane nosk
Night Terror Nosk?
Night Terror Nosk - Attuned difficulty
Night Terror Nosk - Ascended and Radiant difficulties (harder arena)
- This one may be impossible. It's the same concept as the attuned version. I think it's possible, but I can't guarantee it, so use your judgement. I'm not changing it anytime soon, because I think it's pretty fun right now.
-You start inside the ground. Jump to get out. You should be able to hit him a couple times from in there if you want to practice him with less health (:
No idea
Now, who else did I want to do
THK is one
Rad/Absrad is one
Overworld Gorb maybe
Oh, flukemarm should absolutely have breakable walls
quaint patio
god
I hate how the knight sometimes accelerates at the speed of light after pogoing
wicked berry
in what context
quaint patio
pogoing
wicked berry
we don't have to talk if you don't want to
wicked berry
I just got so tired trying to make a meme. This is the biggest dumbest waste of energy
ye
i know
(:
My friends came over
I think the best part is I could technically bring this over to any room
It just looks like I made an overlay on the video though
This could technically count as a challenge since it restricts your vision
I'll try making a flukemarm fight
oh. are you using spells?
they make it way faster
shaman stone shade soul after the "meet in the middle" attack
wicked berry
oh
yeah
been there
i just realized I tried to tell you how to fight your own boss
that was rude, sorry
well, not entirely your own but you get what i mean
Like me with nosk?
yay (:
wicked berry
Wait does flukemarm also have to be feasible within a p5 run
I... hmm
It's right after a checkpoint, right?
Well it's just I haven't tested it yet
I guess we're making this for good players
Ok I think I'm done with the base version of the fight
now is the part where I can decide to make it insane
So, there are currently 12 levers to hit in order to reach flukemarm
all spells are disabled
I guess I can allow ddark
in order to activate the levers, they need to parkour around the arena
I tried to make the platforming not too tight
but I also suck and gauging these things
Uh let me try
The levers are inside the walls so you can't hit them from outside
my idea to make this harder was to add like sporgs or crawlers inside the lever holes
That way it would get progressively harder as you progress through the fight
I don't even know how doable this is right now, I should probably test it
oh, you could totally cheese this with glowing womb or minions
I'm fine with that
if you're willing to be that patient
Well, first issue, you spawn into a saw
might want to fix that
also, the first lever is the only one you can access
aka behind the breakable wall
bottom right
ah, I should probably set hazard respawns
haven't touched those yet
also, I should probably mention that uh
yeah, it's hard enough
I've ended up cheesing my own level
i mean, part of it
still lost though
I mean this is still pre alpha
we're going to be doing this again
with better tools
i mean we're still getting enemy customizer
and if they don't finish it, I will commission someone else to do it
Yeah, something that affects the player and not the enemies would be nice, whatever it is
i mean for now we're just going to keep getting better at this yeah
goodnight
this is the most fun i've had with a game in a while
wicked berry
Flukemario Kart
this one isn't as hard as nosk, but harder than sheo
I'll record a clear tomorrow
but I did clear this, it's very doable on attuned at least
with charms
if curious, it's the same as earlier, but I added a small platform on the red dots and made it so flukefeys could pass easier through the bottom because it was too much of a safe spot as it was.
vast prairie
kind flower
Cant you just pogo in the middle of flukemarm?
kind flower
The center, yeah
kind flower
Its in godhome so you probably have to get off the spawning platform the moment you enter
wicked berry
Technically, you can. Prolly harder than doing it intended. I can fix it pretty easily anyway
wicked berry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUBVHwyCnx0 @lean pebble
lean pebble
wicked berry
@white ruin
white ruin
fast blaze
Does anyone have the jotaro skin? or complete pale king skin?
minor tinsel
here is defiantely the pale king skin
fast blaze
@minor tinsel Thanks
hexed nimbus
@minor tinsel reminds me of the time i had this piece of garbage as a custom skin (i'm sure you can imagine how great it looked)
minor tinsel
lmao
hexed nimbus
if you want to see it for yourself (images directly inside)
minor tinsel
hmm i wonder how it would look if i just upscaled a picture of rick astley and used that as void spells
wicked berry
I'm starting to feel self conscious about the flukemarm map. I don't know if it's fun
daring rain
errant lance
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hazy sentinel
Is there a mod that puts the pure vessel in his armor in the fight
swift bison
No
nocturne sky
Who are TWP? I know they make skins, but that's about it
tacit epoch
Hey, lf someone to try out multiplayer mod. English/russian mic, EU.
DM me
analog sierra
I forgot how to use the modding thing, What file do i have to select to be able to use it? And do i need to boot the game up once?
Ive done it before but thats a while.
sweet bolt
to install mods need to be the original game?
analog sierra
Im using the discord install,
analog sierra
to install mods need to be the original game?
And yes, Dlc is allowed with it
minor tinsel
Who are TWP? I know they make skins, but that's about it
group of artists who make hk skins (mostly from china)
here's their yt https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXXcJQvlKn7rvHQP-ttXaBA
nocturne sky
Who here that I know are a part of it?
minor tinsel
almost no one
poppy-twp is
idk if methylpalladium is, i think he's associated with them though
wicked berry
Benji and methyl are the two I know that gave out TWP skin(s) to challenge winners
split junco
wicked berry
Does anyone know how many in game units long the nail is?
quaint patio
saws
hexed nimbus
the worse part about this is the godseeker thing behind the soul thing
wicked berry
I love this
high beacon
How does the mods affects the game? Can they corrupt the game files?
hexed nimbus
the potential is there, yes
high beacon
I suspect that
Few days ago I installed a mod it was perfectly fine and BAAM. Game crashed. I reopened the game after the crash and what I experienced was horrible lag. Laggy menu etc
I reinstalled the game but still the issue remains, got any solutions how to fix it?
hexed nimbus
sadly no, never heard of anything like that before
high beacon
Yeah everyone says that
hollow cloak
if the game files were corrupted and you reinstalled the game the corrupted files wouldn't be there anymore
hollow cloak
well I don't know I don't have enough info from you to give you an answer
high beacon
Thank you
thick meadow
I have never done p5 and I just did it with a gun mod and got the achievement,, but at what cost
wicked berry
which mod was it anulot
high beacon
Easy mode, I installed only that one
swift bison
@high beacon did you open mod installer after reinstalling the game
swift bison
¯_(ツ)_/¯
high beacon
It’s just weird
barren wharf
Yeah
scarlet jewel
I haven't been on here for quite a while but does anyone remember when there were some people who were making bossfights for the other 4 great knights?
Did they ever finish their mod?
scarlet jewel
Ooh ok
swift bison
Still under development
scarlet jewel
I just remember seeing one of the wip animations and it looked really good
swift bison
In the history of the modding channels you can find all kinds of small recordings of the battles in action
Along with other spoilers like what some of the new charms do
rapid burrow
how long since that was "announced" with teasers anyhoo?
barren wharf
You know, I actually may make a Custom Knight for that DLC. I just gotta get a response from the creator
swift bison
@barren wharf what dlc?
raw lichen
wow that's amazing
wicked berry
ooo
barren wharf
It looks a bit choppy though
wicked berry
A bit but I do like it
wicked berry
i mean if you want it to be less chopy you could like trace it with smoother lines?Not sure how you draw
barren wharf
My friend actually gave me an idea design so I did it based off of that
Btw that is the skin I am making for the Pale Court DLC. Just gotta make sure the creator of it agrees to this
wicked berry
yes
dry snow
cool skin idea 
barren wharf
Thanks @dry snow
wicked berry
oh
i finished the nosk mod
well, I didn't beat it
but I made every attack dodgeable
I'm debating whether to upload a video of the fight or letting people figure it out
because I think the fight is fun
but it's kind of hard
I don't want it to be discouraging
one thing I will say
There are spikes below the ground on the sides
so you can pogo
it's pretty necessary
I guess I'll make a quick demo
Here is Very Harder Nosk
wicked berry
finite herald
Since lightbringer existed, it's possible to make the knight shoot projectiles
so perhaps an Aspid Knight mod is in order
turbid sigil
hello someone can help me?
hexed nimbus
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turbid sigil
I try to install the skin but when playing I don't see
silver garden
Do you have Custom Knight installed with the mods it needs?
I have snprcore (or whatever it's called), ModCommon, and Vasi, I think?
So get those also if you don't
Also make sure it's in the correct place. Should be:
Custom Knight -> [Folder with the name of your custom skin] -> Image files.
silver garden
So inside the folder called Rainbow Knight there is just a bunch of PNG files, right?
Just to be certain. Not another folder inside that.
swift bison
@turbid sigil that’s because the images for stary knight are in a folder inside the skin folder
fleet raft
can anyone suggest the best randomizer settings to start out with for HK?
plucky pilot
Help i wanna play as homie
errant lance
There's a video on YouTube on how to install custom skins
jolly grove
silk junco
You know, I actually may make a Custom Knight for that DLC. I just gotta get a r...
I already responded you on youtube, but will say it here too just in case
if you want to make the skin as a separate thing, we dont have a reason to stop you, but we dont want to add custom skins to Pale Court
one of them being that custom skin is already a separate mod
neon scroll
is there a mod where all the bosses are unlocked in hall of gods
errant lance
godseeker mode
hexed nimbus
vanilla game
rapid burrow
just download a save
think there should be something in hk speedrun.com resources for that
or something
or somewhere else and i just completely forgot where 
wicked berry
graig has one with all bosses on ascended. either in this channel or the one above
I'm pretty sure the challenge skin save for onikiri also has everything unlocked
rapid burrow
?saves
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Saves
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autumn shadow
Where are the grimmchild's animation sprites
in the game files
neon scroll
@rapid burrow where do i drop the file
rapid burrow
in your save files folder
make sure to backup anything before overwriting if it matters to you
neon scroll
where is the saves folder im in the hk folder
also if its a file which is completed then im fine
@rapid burrow
wheres the save file folder
rapid burrow
read the comment saying exactly where they are right above
neon scroll
@rapid burrow
rapid burrow
?saves
neon scroll
where
fathom wigeonBOT
Saves
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neon scroll
its not there
rapid burrow
?
wicked berry
oh god I've made an oversight in this fight's design
you don't actually need to dash through nosk
god dammit
wicked berry
it's fine, it's not as big a deal as I thought
scarlet jewel
Does anyone have any recommendations for mods to try out?
errant lance
?mods
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sly fulcrum
Does anyone have any recommendations for mods to try out?
enemy randomizer
barren wharf
Hi guys
dry snow
I was thinking about making a second playable character, even if it would be hard af
wicked berry
that would be cool
hexed nimbus
dry snow
The idea would be that you'd play a character with two nails, who regenerates hp by attacking
He would be a character who constantly wants to be in the think of it and is rewarded for smart movement and exploiting weak points
wicked berry
it's hard to live up to legends of the past
wicked berry
i don't know what that means
errant lance
basically he plays correctly
wicked berry
i got that I just don't get what in the thick of things means in this context
like... wouldn't that just refer to being in a boss fight?
dry snow
You could play passively, or shoot spells or whatever
I just like smacking stuff with the nail and being all up in the bosses' grill
So the character I idead up would be all about that
wicked berry
oh, neat