hk-general

[brave blaze]

Different genre

[hallow rampart]

Doesn’t matter, it’s a combat system

[ripe roost]

what are u guys talking abt??

[midnight oasis]

SS is marginally more complex but still not that complex (Not as a criticism that's just what it is)

[hallow rampart]

Skill expression

[bitter kelp]

Worldless is better than mio

[sharp ether]

nine sols id like to add does have a more complex system then hk 1 does

[brave blaze]

And bound to Combat systems of a different genre

[forest wadi]

but we are talking about HK, a metrovanea

[midnight oasis]

Oh I think HK takes skill I was just using the convo to plug MIO

[subtle sable]

does having a more complex combat system come with pure skill based fights with little to no memorization?

[forest wadi]

you asked for a more complex one, not a MUCH more complex one

[sharp ether]

peak game

[brave blaze]

Wanna buys a new metroidvania soon should i bzy Mio or nine sols First?

[swift light]

Peak Sols surely

[hallow rampart]

That’s the difference, HK only requires memorization

[midnight oasis]

Parry combat isn't really my cup of tea tbh I like MIO a lot more

[sharp ether]

either they're both amazing

[forest wadi]

all fights take memorization, name a boss that does not use memorization

[grim fossil]

No it doesnt?

[midnight oasis]

MIO has a block too but its got a really good map to make it more interesting

[rose hornet]

What’s up chat

[hallow rampart]

While other games have an incredibly high skill floor/ceiling while needing to memorize boss patterns

[brave blaze]

Mio it is then

[forest wadi]

pokemon, mario, ect

[sharp ether]

would you consider the dark souls trilogy to be games that require skill? (assuming you've played them)

[hallow rampart]

Hell no, even less so than HK

[subtle sable]

oh okay i guess the nail, nail arts, three spells and charms are not enough

[hallow rampart]

Dodge, R1, repeat

[midnight oasis]

The skill in DS1 comes from staying awake

[grim fossil]

Radiance, absrad, basically any soul warrior is not memorization based

[midnight oasis]

DS2 however is the hardest game ever made

[hallow rampart]

Not even close to enough, now sit down

[bleak goblet]

okay then, go beat the entire soulsborne series

[forest wadi]

but they do?

[hallow rampart]

Already have lol

[tawdry breach]

well yeah and everyone has their own set of skill they like to perform, like you for example, would prefer more mechanical moves in terms of complexity to perform against enemy boss

[grim fossil]

But they dont , high level absrad or markoth are not memorization based lol

[sharp ether]

i get what you mean but simple doesn't mean no skill at least in my eyes. while they often go together i personally dont really think they do in the context of the souls games. it is a simple system i can agree

[midnight oasis]

wym mechanical moves

[swift light]

Dodge timings are a thingy

[subtle sable]

balance is important too, overcomplicated mechanics make me dizzy

[hallow rampart]

All you need to do in any FS game is memorize the timing you need to negate the attack and then you will never get hit or die

[grim fossil]

High level absrad players dont just memorize every single pattern absrad has its execution/improvisation

[tawdry breach]

the guy below you said about timings is what I meant

[swift light]

Guy

[subtle sable]

yeah no that's not memorization that's skill

[tawdry breach]

calculating where to attack in milliseconds

[forest wadi]

yes? even markoth less so than others but you need to know what to do when he spins or the best way to doge, less memorization with smaller moveset but still

[pallid horizon]

HK and SS requires skill and reaction time, cause I heavily doubt any new person to HK will immediatly know hot to POGO without knowing what the heck it is at the first. Same goes for reaction time. Sure, Hk and SS are indeed game where you do need to memorize a pattern, but so you gotta adapt to it, same goes for when to attack, jump, pogo, do a certain move - the game makes you do all of these, and also - timing too /my own opinion on this

[sharp ether]

are perseverance and memorization not skills? to me at least they are despite the fact most anyone can get them. just like most other skills

[hybrid gyro]

Which a surprising number of people suck at
Truth nuke

[hallow rampart]

Memory is a basic human function..

Elk unreact to that

[subtle sable]

if getting the timing right after excessive trial and error is memorizarion then no one is skilled at any instrument they're all memorizing

[forest wadi]

make me

[midnight oasis]

Only if you play rollslop instead of Armored Core 6

[sharp ether]

absolutely and on its own ofc. but its not just memory its memorization and then executing that to a more somewhat more complex function

[hybrid gyro]

Rrynell you literally reacted to this-

[grim fossil]

markoth like every boss requires memorization in the sense of what attacks does he have yes, but high level markoth again is not memorizing every single possible position he can be in in every scenario and then executing what you memorize

[high escarp]

memorise an entire shuffled deck of cards right now for me real quick

[bleak goblet]

then memorize all of pi, fuckface

[forest wadi]

ALL....😨

[tawdry breach]

e standing in the corner:

[grim fossil]

collector is another good example

or gpz

[midnight oasis]

The high level markoth in question

[subtle sable]

π ≡ 0 (mod π)

[forest wadi]

no

[hallow rampart]

I agree, but when it comes to FS games, you really don’t need to do much to “execute” what you memorized

[midnight oasis]

Memorize ts

[red storm]

@nova mist

[forest wadi]

thats the easy one

[hybrid gyro]

Sotrue
Gpz is like one of the only cases where it's just pure skill, the minions aren't consistent at all and the boss changes up his variations of attacks SO much

And yet people still manage to beat him hitless itemless

[forest wadi]

its some luck yes

[grim fossil]

its not luck

[sharp ether]

and i do agree there are harder games but something not being incredibly hard/complex doesn't mean theres no skill involved. ofc im doubtful ill change your mind as im kinda barely getting my thoughts out but im still trying as best as possible lol

[grim fossil]

its entirely skill based, you can do radiant markoth 100/100 times consistently if you are good enough

[swift light]

Collector flowkey just cyclone slash

[tawdry breach]

and has way too many titles lol

[hybrid gyro]

Fair

[forest wadi]

i cant do it once in P5😔

[hybrid gyro]

Bing

[swift light]

Bomile

[potent gate]

Hi guys in new!

[covert egret]

rip

[subtle sable]

I'm in old

[midnight oasis]

welcome welcome

[hallow rampart]

You’re alright, I just don’t find the type of skill it emphasizes very engaging compared to more mechanically expressive games.

[limber monolith]

Give him the time to move😭😭😭😭

[potent gate]

DELTARUNE!?

[limber monolith]

[potent gate]

IM OLD

[grim fossil]

and even in the cases of there being memorizable attack patterns( nkg, pv being the ones that come to mind the most ) executing those patterns consistently still takes just mechanical skill lol, theres a reason people cant just do 50 radnkgs/pvs in a row after beating the boss on attuned once

[limber monolith]

IM CO-

[hallow rampart]

@subtle sable wya?

[potent gate]

Y'all got any sleedrunning tips for me btw?

[potent gate]

Snowgrave that fucking chiken

[subtle sable]

?

[sharp ether]

perfectly fair. everyone has their preferences. i enjoy its skill expression but i can see what you mean by it being linear fs

[hybrid gyro]

Learn a few simple skips

[potent gate]

Ok I'ma be back and tell my run

[midnight oasis]

getting the speedrun achievements is pretty much just memorizing where everything is and what you need to get there

[hallow rampart]

This is an example of a good faith argument @subtle sable learn you cockroach

[hybrid gyro]

Are you going for the achievement or any%

[wide plume]

Cockroach?

[potent gate]

I'm gonna do any%

[wide plume]

How is Cockroach an insult even

[midnight oasis]

But you can pogo the background objects to get to Watcher's Spire without double jump

[swift light]

Nasty little bugger

[hallow rampart]

I don’t mean nothing by it 🥰

[subtle sable]

i have no idea 😭

[wide plume]

Fair enough

[tawdry breach]

considering hk is an insect game lmao

[hybrid gyro]

Oh well in that case do not save anywhere else after ancestral up until hornet

[potent gate]

Ok

[wide plume]

Cockroaches get eaten

[hybrid gyro]

You want to save quit right after hornet

[hallow rampart]

Me when I have no pride or standards ^

[subtle sable]

why are you insulting me for disagreeing with you

[hallow rampart]

anyway pce! keep @swift light on a leash next time!

[tawdry breach]

meanwhile the grubfather:

[subtle sable]

dickhead

[wide plume]

Is that meant for me or like, answering what yu meant by it?

[bleak goblet]

don't fucking say that shit bout my girlfriend

[wide plume]

He get eaten from the inside out

[hybrid gyro]

Btw izu

[swift light]

Wsp

[subtle sable]

highkey ping the mods

[hybrid gyro]

Farm merg is ai slop

[wide plume]

rrynell is just like a fucking chihuaha lashing out at whatever looks at them

[swift light]

Wh what

[hybrid gyro]

it is true

[swift light]

[prisma fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/ai-slop-a-gif-without-reason-spamton-absolute-cungadero-ai-abomination-gif-17224729110058227858

epic embed fail

[tawdry breach]

embed fail number 923

[subtle sable]

omg russian soup

[grim fossil]

"talks about good faith arguments", "insults person in the very same message"
incredible work

[wide plume]

They may be dumb

[subtle sable]

i don't even know if i should take offence i love roaches

[high escarp]

hk gen moment

[wide plume]

Gray!

[subtle sable]

especially the green ones

[wide plume]

Why are you in Hk gen

[high escarp]

hi, I got lost

[grim fossil]

[wide plume]

Theres green ones?

[swift light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/592273977137692683/1409164589509378122/hk-gen.gif

[wide plume]

Lost Silver

[subtle sable]

pink ones too

[grim fossil]

still better then hk-disc you'd just get insulted right off the bat there

[wide plume]

Where do I find this, I only ever see brown ones

[high escarp]

and also interesting conversations about some boss fights were happening before

[gentle glen]

choose wisely
who wins In a fight
kratos or the knight

[wide plume]

The Knight

[grim fossil]

obviously kratos

[hybrid gyro]

Respectfully atleast

[midnight oasis]

hk-disc has a chill hour every day unlike this channel

[high escarp]

and I would be playing hk but I don't feel like it now

[wide plume]

"Your a poopoo head"

[wide plume]

HK disc is chiller oddly enough

[grim fossil]

actually valid lmao, when theres no one but regulars its nice

[toxic grove]

what is that answer wtf

[wide plume]

Its mostly just gameplay discussion

Not really to my liking but certainly better than here

[high escarp]

hk disc when the interesting regulars but not the weird regulars are there is good

[toxic grove]

this channel is just hell without any regulations

[grim fossil]

the dude's an immortal god that just rips through entire pantheons smh

[subtle sable]

breeders

they're quite expensive

[wide plume]

I can have Roaches as pets?

[grim fossil]

[subtle sable]

yes

[wide plume]

You right

[subtle sable]

fancy roaches

[wide plume]

Shovel Knight wins

[high escarp]

also this is the place where I share boss strats and people call me bad at hk sometimes

[tawny barn]

phases in

[high escarp]

which is interesting

[wide plume]

Are you bad or good?

[grim fossil]

yeah thats normal

[high escarp]

I'd like to think I'm okay, there are obviously better players

I might have a screenshot

ah this

[wide plume]

Does He Know?

[high escarp]

I stole the screenshot though

[shell arch]

hewwo

[grim fossil]

oh it is even pv lmao, i was just about to say how ive gotten into multiple arguments with fresh radhog clearers trying to tell me how to do PV before lol

[high escarp]

hii

[high escarp]

I've had people try to tell me how to fight marmu which I find funny

[tawny barn]

Tf2 neuron activation

[shell arch]

just skipped lacey boiiiiii

[high escarp]

but it is fun to see because you sometimes pick up new ideas when people disagree with you

[grim fossil]

actually hes onto something here tho, shrimply ddark every pv attack

[high escarp]

he was the other way

where you don't DDark at all iirc

[grim fossil]

oh well thats just big dumb then

[high escarp]

unless that was a different conversation

[midnight oasis]

real ones shriek after soul daggers

[wide plume]

Real ones can beat PV

[grim fossil]

shriek strats suck theyre too good

[toxic grove]

pv overall is an easy boss

[grim fossil]

he isnt

[high escarp]

but it is so funny because it takes me aback at this point because people in hk disc know me

[midnight oasis]

Shriek is the funnest spell so I don't mind

[wide plume]

I know

[high escarp]

like, I expect people to have different strats but not to go "you're bad"

[grim fossil]

he objectively isnt he has a comparatively high level of execution requirement

[toxic grove]

just pogo off him

[jade basalt]

U

[high escarp]

also just saying this is wrong

[turbid latch]

https://tenor.com/view/beware-of-the-blud-who-speaks-in-mustard-kendrick-lamar-mustard-67-6-7-gif-3444102233874447312

HOW DO I GET IMAGE PERMS!!!!

[toxic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-epic-embed-fail-embed-fail-gif-9875677717620262384

[turbid latch]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-sk-skong-silk-song-gif-6069929492524291916

[jade basalt]

[midnight oasis]

we're ALL clicking on beware-of-the-blud-who-speaks-in-mustard-kendrick-lamar-mustard-67-6-7-gif

[turbid latch]

NOOOOOOOOOo

[jade basalt]

Lmao

[turbid latch]

DON'T DO ITTTTTTTTTTTTTT

[toxic grove]

nuh uh

[shell arch]

does getting the cloak hardsave your run?

[jade basalt]

Wtf is this 😭

[high escarp]

shade cloak yes mothwing cloak no

[grim fossil]

yeah mods dont give that dude image perms

what the hell is that gif

[jade basalt]

Idfk

[high escarp]

I pretty much only block people for one thing and that is annoying images

[hybrid gyro]

Welllllll it doesn't force you to save in that place but yknow

[shell arch]

what about the drifters cloak

[turbid latch]

MODS PLEASE

[wide plume]

In a scale of 1 to 10, how bad

[high escarp]

I think it does

[turbid latch]

I'LL DO ANYTHING TO SEND

[toxic grove]

omfg just shut up
?tag permpsa

[grim fossil]

there is a message requirement

[turbid latch]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-discord-4chan-reddit-gif-12469709983918782970

[wide plume]

?tag permpsa

[river dome]

Why can't I access VC / Post Images?

In order to prevent Scammers and Raiders we have locked Voice Chat usage and Image permissions behind a 150 and 300 messages milestone respectively.

• If you have already reached the requirements and don't have the roles feel free to DM @quaint musk (NOT TICKETTOOL) or any available Moderator with your total message count, More info in #support-and-faq

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• Mutes, Kicks, And bans reset your score and you will have have to start again.

⚠️ Artificially increasing message count is considered spam.

[jade basalt]

Mods raise the image perms requirement limit specifically for that guy to 2000

[hybrid gyro]

It does

[turbid latch]

NOOOOOO PLEASE 😭

[toxic grove]

ilove when i have to seperately send shit or otherwise it just wont fucking work

[midnight oasis]

Golden age of #hk-general was when it didn't allow images at all for like a month after ss released

[high escarp]

any way you define easy it is wrong

[wide plume]

Skill issue

[turbid latch]

wait i'm just gonna type the letter a every 5 seconds

[shell arch]

okey then ill have to skip mr fourth chorus guy the old fashioned way... A MEGA JUMP

[turbid latch]

so i can send 67 brainrot

[wide plume]

Golden age of this server was before #sk-discussion existed

[jade basalt]

Spamming

[wide plume]

Please do so

[jade basalt]

Yes please do it

[midnight oasis]

God bless #ss-discussion

[turbid latch]

oh

[toxic grove]

it is subjective opinion cuz for me pv is a very easy boss

[jade basalt]

Pv and nkg are Hella easy

[wide plume]

We need to kill #sk-discussion

[turbid latch]

pv is an easy boss to beat but your first time around it is extremely difficult

[high escarp]

okay and again I'm gong to be elitist to prove a point for a sec

[jade basalt]

After beating them first time

[wide plume]

Every boss ever with the exception of Soul Warrior

[turbid latch]

what's the difference between sk and ss discussion?

[toxic grove]

ok

[turbid latch]

oh wait i'm stupid

[high escarp]

all the challenges you are trying to do rn I find easy, I don't go around saying it because that is weird

[hybrid gyro]

I remember freaking tf out on that speed

[wide plume]

Elitist Grey

[jade basalt]

Sk is silksong and ss is silksong

[turbid latch]

"Oh hey this looks like the hollow knight this is gonna be"
"A-"

[jade basalt]

Look at the position of the two s

[high escarp]

pv is a hard boss, most people struggle with it so acknowledge that you learnt it and don't call it easy

[midnight oasis]

2025 ss-disc where Silksong in 2025 was announced but not the release date was chill asf that was the funnest time to be there tbh

[hybrid gyro]

And because yknow

?tag gitgud

[river dome]

Please Do Not Give Unhelpful Advice In general, try to be as encouraging and constructive while providing tips to new players struggling throughout the game. Snarky remarks like "git gud" or "skill issue" or "just kill it" provide players with zero constructive feedback on how to progress throughout the game. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all

[wide plume]

I find it easy

[jade basalt]

Git gud

[turbid latch]

gitgud

just kill it

[jade basalt]

?tag gitgud

[river dome]

Please Do Not Give Unhelpful Advice In general, try to be as encouraging and constructive while providing tips to new players struggling throughout the game. Snarky remarks like "git gud" or "skill issue" or "just kill it" provide players with zero constructive feedback on how to progress throughout the game. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all

[turbid latch]

SHUT UP DYNO

[high escarp]

were you around when I put it in wrong like 3 times

[jade basalt]

?tag

[river dome]

No tag ![hornetgitgud](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/718227635251183746.webp?size=128 "hornetgitgud") found.

[toxic grove]

yes

[jade basalt]

Whats ?tag

[hybrid gyro]

i wasn't but that's not nearly as bad as my pinging mods when trying to pull up wiki

[high escarp]

I know you were here

[turbid latch]

i still remember when i first tried hornet 1 and then i saw like TONS and TONS of people just constantly dying and i was laughing at their gameplay saying "this is so stupid"...... yeah i'm a jerk lol

[grim fossil]

dyno prefix

[high escarp]

anyway the point is if you learn a thing don't go around calling it easy

[turbid latch]

?tag gitgud

[river dome]

Please Do Not Give Unhelpful Advice In general, try to be as encouraging and constructive while providing tips to new players struggling throughout the game. Snarky remarks like "git gud" or "skill issue" or "just kill it" provide players with zero constructive feedback on how to progress throughout the game. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all

[midnight oasis]

Don't tell but I got stuck on Hornet 1 for like a month 💔

[jade basalt]

?tag

[river dome]

**Command:** ?tag

Description: Get or create a tag
Cooldown: 5 seconds
Usage:
?tag [tag name]
Example:
?tag how2invite

[turbid latch]

git gud

[midnight oasis]

I wasn't actively playing tbf

[jade basalt]

?tag how2invite

[river dome]

No tag how2invite found.

[subtle sable]

?tags

[river dome]

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[high escarp]

because that is both demeaning to people who struggle with it and diminish the fact you learnt it

[jade basalt]

?tag yesping

[river dome]

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[turbid latch]

?tag virus

[wide plume]

#1207486627124093019

[river dome]

Windows won't let me open the Mod Installer

• If there's a Pop Up that says "Windows Protected your PC", then click "More Info" (on the left), and then a "Run Anyway" button will appear to click.
  • This happens because Windows automatically blocks apps that don't pay Microsoft and go through the process to have their app Verified by Windows.

Apple could not verify that Installer is free of malware

Type ?tag macos into chat for more info.

Installer vanishes after downloading / loads a blank screen

This is commonly because one or more issues:

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[grim fossil]

do this in the thread, not in here

[turbid latch]

I CAN JUST LOBOTOMIZE THE CHAT??

[wide plume]

Do it on #1207486627124093019

[subtle sable]

stop spamming tags here bro

[jade basalt]

How I do this

[hybrid gyro]

Does this count as spam

[turbid latch]

i was just testing

[vagrant dawn]

Probably

[wide plume]

If he keeps doing it

[grim fossil]

i mean we'll just ping mods but sure try it

[turbid latch]

i will not do it

[jade basalt]

No ping

[turbid latch]

mfs when they hear the slightest of jokes

[wide plume]

Yato what is your pfp

[grim fossil]

?av

[river dome]

asdgg0432

Server Avatar

[jade basalt]

Yes ping

[wide plume]

Mfer whats the joke here

[grim fossil]

its itachi

[wide plume]

Oh its sasuke

[turbid latch]

me saying "i could lobotomize the chat"

[shell arch]

float aquired

[wide plume]

Dope

[jade basalt]

?tage

?tags

[river dome]

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[subtle sable]

like 0 people globally find this funny

[jade basalt]

?cogfly

[subtle sable]

stop.

[turbid latch]

you incoherent bumbling bustling battling bartering BUFFOON

[subtle sable]

brother

[turbid latch]

i am SUPERIOR because i am v2

[jade basalt]

It's one of the tafs

[wide plume]

Shut up

[subtle sable]

you are 14

[jade basalt]

It didn't do anything tho

[jade basalt]

?

[turbid latch]

i love saying stupid things

https://tenor.com/view/smart-monkey-listening-monkey-speech-bubble-dumb-lion-lion-yelling-gif-977388511909412427

[subtle sable]

https://tenor.com/dqamwLj8N6P.gif

[limber monolith]

I got to pure vessel and died but its fine cus its my first time facing him😭😭😭

[vagrant dawn]

lmao

[jade basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-monkey-listening-monkey-speech-bubble-dumb-lion-lion-yelling-gif-977388511909412427

[wide plume]

Dont give him that 😭

[turbid latch]

you want me to give you some tips? i radianted pure vessel!

[midnight oasis]

Yea

[toxic grove]

e.

[jade basalt]

Pogo

[limber monolith]

Pls

[midnight oasis]

And you can practice it in HoG

[turbid latch]

everyone has a first time bro, it's chill i can give you tips

[jade basalt]

He's so easy if you just pogo him

[wide plume]

Starpengu what are your thoughts on this current situation

[toxic grove]

?tag i

[river dome]

Mod Installers

Check pins for up-to-date information!

Hollow Knight

If you are new to modding, please follow along with this video to learn how to do it

• Lumafly (Win/Mac/Linux) recommended installer
• Scarab (Win/Mac/Linux) original installer

Silksong

Silksong modding uses Thunderstore.

• Cogfly (Win/Mac/Linux) Dedicated Silksong installer that integrates with Thunderstore modding profiles.
  It is also possible to use well-known Thunderstore installers:
• Gale (Win/Linux)
• r2modman (Win/Linux)

[midnight oasis]

The situation is crazy

[toxic grove]

wow 1 word and it shows somt

[jade basalt]

?tag i

[turbid latch]

1. always shade dash through attacks
2. pogoing is basically always essential
3. heal opportunities are only in aoe attack and stagger

[river dome]

Mod Installers

Check pins for up-to-date information!

Hollow Knight

If you are new to modding, please follow along with this video to learn how to do it

• Lumafly (Win/Mac/Linux) recommended installer
• Scarab (Win/Mac/Linux) original installer

Silksong

Silksong modding uses Thunderstore.

• Cogfly (Win/Mac/Linux) Dedicated Silksong installer that integrates with Thunderstore modding profiles.
  It is also possible to use well-known Thunderstore installers:
• Gale (Win/Linux)
• r2modman (Win/Linux)

[jade basalt]

Oh u can heal on the spikes

[wide plume]

Crazy

[limber monolith]

Thx

[high escarp]

this channel is trying to devolve so hard

[grim fossil]

those first 2 points confuse me

[jade basalt]

And the bubbles

[white maple]

Good afternoon my friends

[shell arch]

I HATE THIS WHY DOES IT NEED TO TAKE THE EXACT PLATFOR MIM STANDING ON AT ONE HP

[grim fossil]

arent those contradictory

[earnest summit]

Hi guys

[wide plume]

Giving tips is hard

Which is why I just dont try anymore

[grim fossil]

i do not recommend it

[toxic grove]

the 2 funny words that keep flying in your head

[midnight oasis]

I shriek for spikes its goated

[high escarp]

have you lost the ability to give entry level advice for boss fights? because I'm kinda unable to be concise mostly

[grim fossil]

unless youre running quick focus

[midnight oasis]

Always bet on ddark and shriek

And pogos ig

[high escarp]

like, if someone needs help with pv and doesn't need a specific thing I'm giving 2 pages

[grim fossil]

ive never been super good at advice, i dont really visualize how i do strats i just execute them via muscle memory so i kinda suck at describing timings and like, what you even need to really do

[wide plume]

Always bet on dying

[high escarp]

if someone needs absrad I just sent 7 pages

[midnight oasis]

That's why we run thorns of agony 🗣️

[manic snow]

Oh wa oh

[wide plume]

Your a very bad person

[high escarp]

and it is then on them to find what specifically they want

[earnest summit]

Always bet on losing your geo for the tenth time because of some stupid husk

[toxic grove]

why 7 pages though

[midnight oasis]

What about my a very bad person

[wide plume]

Who tf dies to husks

[shell arch]

ookay i escaped the fourth chorus area

[midnight oasis]

One for each phase

[wide plume]

You run Thorns of agony

[high escarp]

I have 7 pages already written

[earnest summit]

Starter players

[wide plume]

On like a word or sum?

[earnest summit]

(not me)

[toxic grove]

there are 6 phases

[high escarp]

and unless someone asks for specifics they get the whole thing

[high escarp]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qC88RU8IXwrY58MpmXZs14UO1ECRUqBTo12RDVIKIYE/edit?usp=sharing

[wide plume]

Wow this is incredibly thankful

[grim fossil]

so i mostly just reserve myself to giving super broad advice without going into details at this point most of the time( because i literally just dont know the details )

[wide plume]

Help gray

[midnight oasis]

beginning phase
beginning phase + spikes
sword rain
platforms
climb
ending phase
ending phase but stationary

Duh

[high escarp]

that is probably the best way tbh

[wide plume]

THE climb

[earnest summit]

Anyone who does pantheon 5 all bindings is a masochist

[high escarp]

the entire document is help idk

[earnest summit]

Or is just filled with DETERMINATION

[wide plume]

I know, which is why im helpful you sent it

I really needed the thank

[midnight oasis]

I don't think big paragraphs are very helpful anyway tbh

[high escarp]

I just send it to everyone who doesn't run away

[wide plume]

From what

[midnight oasis]

unless you're at very high level play like P5AB

[high escarp]

52 pages of document

[toxic grove]

technically the ending is one in whole

[wide plume]

The gray files are crazy

[midnight oasis]

You get it

[high escarp]

I got help for some of it

[midnight oasis]

If we're counting climb we should count the sword rain to plats transition too

[twilit summit]

these two years MIGHT have been the best years in gaming except for ai nuking ram prices
silksong deltarune terraria hytale ultrakill

[high escarp]

genio did some editing and added healing windows to some fights

[wide plume]

E33

[midnight oasis]

The best year in gaming will always be 2017

[north wraith]

Hi guys.

[twilit summit]

nah

[wide plume]

Genius is so nice

[jade basalt]

There's also the phase in between sword rain and platforms, where you climb up to the platforms

[midnight oasis]

I'm excited for ultrakill though

[toxic grove]

alr im out im too bored

[vital egret]

P5AB ain't that bad outside of a few fights that deserve a few paragraphs. 95% of the bosses can be beaten even AB just by having a basic understanding of how to heal up

[high escarp]

everyone who I sent it to to proof read said to add pv parry information...

[vital egret]

it's really just like... zote, absrad, collector, and markoth that make it super hard

[high escarp]

everyone

[fickle pine]

Should I try White Castle sliders?

[wide plume]

Okay

[vital egret]

these legitimately food poisoned me last week so no

[wide plume]

Whats better, food poisoning or just normal poison

[grim fossil]

regarding pvs parry, i personally think its counter-intuitive to say to jump, move away and then parry, sure you technically parry but what youre really doing input wise is pogoing

holy shit its milky

[vital egret]

parrying anything as a strategy is a stupid idea IMO. It's flex, it's flash, and it's absolutely a last resort you try with an upslash if you messed up elsewhere

[high escarp]

I was sort of forced to write it before i knew how to do it myself

so technically I knew how to do it but had never done it myself

[fickle pine]

Guys I only got 3 hrs of sleep

[vital egret]

I think it is always always always better to just move out of the way

[grim fossil]

i agree

[high escarp]

that is why I didn't add it

[grim fossil]

ah, makes sense

[fickle pine]

https://tenor.com/view/mukbang-food-mukbang-gifs-asmr-mukbang-korean-food-gif-22451082

[high escarp]

but 3 people told me to add it

[fickle pine]

Ts what I wanna do rn

[high escarp]

so I folded to peer pressure

[grim fossil]

yeah id just change parry to pogo, the advice itself is good and learning parry pogoing can be helpful for consistency sake

[jade basalt]

Valid

[fickle pine]

I’ve been up for 8 hrs

[high escarp]

I think it is worth knowing how to systematically fight more bosses than that

[subtle sable]

this made me 0.71% suicidal

[jade basalt]

Wdym

[fickle pine]

Nothing to eat with tons and tons of jack in the box and Carl’s Jr adds

[high escarp]

not losing lifeblood to stupid things is half of normal p5ab imo

[subtle sable]

which isn't much but it's there

[jade basalt]

Tf is that

[fickle pine]

I’ll I have is tons of microwaveables but my mum want me to sleep

[fickle pine]

Restaurants/fast food

[vital egret]

It's worth it, yeah, but you don't really need it. The health system is generous enough that as long as you aren't turtling a corner, you have the soul on hand to bounce back even from things you aren't super warmed up on.

well, until you're up to the double damage bosses anyway

[fickle pine]

Ima go eat a slider now

[high escarp]

I'm sort of biased because I first did p5ab by carrying a lot of lifeblood and brute forcing the hard bosses

[turbid latch]

honestly healing is very tight in pure vessel, tight in nkg and relatively comfortable in absrad

[high escarp]

but also I wrote the document as a p5ab strategy explainer partly

not necessarily just as a guide

[grim fossil]

healing in pv gets better the better you get at the boss ironically, which isnt super helpful for obvious reasons lmao

[jade basalt]

Not really in pv, there's like 2 attacks you can heal on

[midnight oasis]

NKG has a good few opportunities I would say PV is the hardest

[vital egret]

hey yato, have you tried Lost and Chained in Silksong yet?

[high escarp]

now if someone goes can I have help for p3ab god tamer I have something to just send

[grim fossil]

nah, what is that? i havent finished silksong yet, ive only played until about start of act 3 and then stopped because the bosses just werent really hooking me

[turbid latch]

*one

[vital egret]

Ahhh, it's a modded boss I enjoy a lot

[turbid latch]

spike attack is gambling

[grim fossil]

i very much do not recommend pillar healing unless you are very comfortable at the boss yes

[jade basalt]

You can heal on void tendrils if you're far away from him

[vital egret]

probably the ONLY silksong modded boss I consider to be truly vanilla-worthy in quality

because it's easy enough to be AB consistent

[grim fossil]

ooh nice, yeah if i ever get back to silksong ill definitely check it out

[turbid latch]

True....

[grim fossil]

honestly valid tho, the biggest modded-boss complaint i have in hk is that the bosses are just stupidly scaled difficulty wise

[limber monolith]

Im literally doing anything but studying

[vital egret]

yeah, modded bosses by and large are really overtuned

[potent gate]

Y'all I just did a sub 30min run:3

[grim fossil]

so much of it just feels like throwing random shit at you and just assuming you'll ddark spam through it

[jade basalt]

Probably not the best thing to do

[vital egret]

SIlksong modded bosses are honestly worse

[high escarp]

while none of the people who would disagree with me before I finish this sentence are here have you heard my godhome challenge takes which people ban me from talking about

[limber monolith]

Yea

[grim fossil]

i have not

[potent gate]

I just did a sub 30 min run y'all!!

[grim fossil]

i have heard the AB-r5 one assuming that is one of them

[torn garnet]

Thats the strat

[high escarp]

and by people I mean the evil hk disc regulars who don't like the truth

[vital egret]

because a lot of them throw random shit at you hoping you'll cross stitch through it. Guess what has a 5/6 chance of NOT being in your loadout

[jade basalt]

Cool

[potent gate]

It was fun :3

[jade basalt]

On p5 right?

[potent gate]

No

[high escarp]

the main one which people ban me from saying

[torn garnet]

[grim fossil]

ah, yeah that doesnt surprise me lol, a lot of the modders probably migrated from hk afterall

[jade basalt]

Sub 30 on wut?

[high escarp]

is I think that p5ab and r5 are pretty equivalent on first clear

[torn garnet]

The game 😭 ✌️

[potent gate]

Any% glitches

[tidal grove]

Trying p3 again

[jade basalt]

Oh gj

[grim fossil]

i mean yeah i disagree quite heavily

[tidal grove]

beat grimm time for the big 4

[high escarp]

normally someone apears out of the woodwork when I say it

[potent gate]

Simple glitch

[jade basalt]

Jeez that fast

It took me like 3 hours

[potent gate]

First ever Speedrun I did :3

I'm happy

[jade basalt]

[eager coyote]

real

[potent gate]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hollow-knight-breakdance-gif-4991443249772973911

[alpine parcel]

Yo congrats!

[high escarp]

much more civil than... a lot of people tbh

[jade basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hollow-knight-breakdance-gif-4991443249772973911

[potent gate]

Awww no gifs?

[grim fossil]

p5AB in general just isnt all that hard comparatively in my opinion, r5 is in large parts just grindy for dumb mistakes that simply do not fuck you up even close to as much in AB because its so lenient

[torn garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/no-image-perms-no-image-perks-no-image-gif-12889793216262706171

[potent gate]

YAAYYY!!!

[midnight oasis]

dang lost and chained looks good

[vital egret]

yeah, r5 is harder. I got P5AB within like 2 weeks of Godmaster releasing. I didn't join R5ers until like 1.5 years after, though admittedly I got it in like... 3 days after seriously going for it.

[midnight oasis]

also looks really hard to read though 😭

[vagrant dawn]

i hope this ends up being true

[limber monolith]

Nice

[potent gate]

When do it get img perms?

[wide plume]

What that

[torn garnet]

300 messages

[potent gate]

Oh that's not bad

[vital egret]

Just at that point I was way, way better since my first P5AB clear by like double or triple

[subtle sable]

whats R5

[wide plume]

Phantom pfp haver how the P5AB going

[jade basalt]

?tags

[river dome]

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[high escarp]

I found r5 quite chill

[wide plume]

Hitless Pantheon 5

[high escarp]

and p5ab was painful in execution

[alpine parcel]

R5ers?

[north wraith]

Woah

[subtle sable]

oh hell fucking nah

[wide plume]

wth is 1221

[vagrant dawn]

havent done runs in a bit because of school
surely one more run

[tidal grove]

Made it to sentinel on more than full soul🙏🙏

[potent gate]

Would you rather do pantheon five all binding hitless or fight all bosses in silksong at once

[wide plume]

?tag 1221

[river dome]

Current 1221 Modding Resources

The Modding API is not allowed to be installed for most runs. This is used for practice purposes.

• HK Speedrun Community Discord: https://discord.gg/3JtHPsBjHD
• Video Guide 🎦
• [Basic Installation Instructions](#modding-discussion message)
• Resources Repo

Assembly Files

You can only use one of these

• Modding API: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/822611561427370054/835911691703156746/Assembly-CSharp.dll
• Modding API with Adjustable Screenshake: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1098732512844456016/1102778898430824559/Assembly-CSharp.dll
• MiniSaveStates: Github
  • Note: MiniSaveStates is not compatible with other 1221 mods, but it is allowed for IL runs.
• Adjustable Screenshake: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1098732512844456016/1100137284667445408/Assembly-CSharp.dll
  • Note: This Adjustable Screenshake is not compatible with other 1221 mods, but it is allowed for runs.

Common Mods for 1221

A ModdingApi must be installed to use these

• Debug: Github
• Benchwarp: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/822611561427370054/835455873212088360/Benchwarp.zip
• HKTimer: Github

[vital egret]

r5 = hitless pantheon 5

[alpine parcel]

BRUH

[wide plume]

Gotcha

[jade basalt]

I could do it I js don't want to 🗿 (joke)

[potent gate]

Would you rather do pantheon five all binding hitless or fight all bosses in silksong at once

[wide plume]

I wish you hope

[torn garnet]

Hahahahahah

[grim fossil]

idk i think you can just bullshit your way through a lot of AB even with only decent playing simply because theres so much healing besides like, collector and gpz

[wide plume]

[high escarp]

I can understand that people don't agree but almost no one even humors it which I find a bit unfortunate

[alpine parcel]

Should have known you'd done that already

[potent gate]

Answer the questikn phillap

[wide plume]

Whats at stake

[north wraith]

P5 all binds hitless

[potent gate]

Your 112% save

[wide plume]

Ill just re do it

[potent gate]

And all your radiant bosses you did

[midnight oasis]

My goat Beast + Injector Bands could do it

[high escarp]

practicing collector no mods ewwww

[grim fossil]

r5 on the other hand just feels like hit grinding until you get basically lucky and dont make any dumb mistakes

[north wraith]

Wait no silksong cause I'm like 3 percent done with that game

[wide plume]

I mean I did want an excuse to do RadHog again

[tidal grove]

IM DEAD

[torn garnet]

🥶 🔥

[tidal grove]

IM AT SLY ON 6 HP

[potent gate]

Hollow knight 112% file

[shell arch]

I HATE THEFUICKING CROWS

[wide plume]

What if one cant use mods

[vital egret]

r5 is """""""""""easy"""""""""""""" because you can overcharm a berserking ddark spamming build that positively crushes the whole run, but there's always the threat of getting tagged by something unexpected within the 20-30 minutes it takes and that happens a whole lot

[high escarp]

I had a mostly good time in r5 tbh not really much tragedy and it was quite fast

[potent gate]

Btw I have a 123% savefile :3

[north wraith]

My 110 hours will be gone tho😭

[north wraith]

What r ur charms

[potent gate]

And your all radiant bosses

[torn garnet]

In sk?

[north wraith]

I only have like Grimm radiant

[tidal grove]

Quickslash unbreakable heart and strength quickfocus

[north wraith]

And absrad

[potent gate]

And all your memories of hollow knight

[shell arch]

are there any crows in normal HK?

[vital egret]

most of the reason I despise hitless runs in general because it always feels like you're "ready" for them long before you actually nail the run because something stupid happens, just one little tiny thing

[north wraith]

Nail arts does really good

[potent gate]

No

[torn garnet]

Idfk

[north wraith]

That's sounds peak

[torn garnet]

There could be 😭 ✌️

[vital egret]

it's a puzzle that's solved way before you're actually done with it and those annoy me

[grim fossil]

ive only done about like, 10 hours of active r5 practice and like, maybe 7 or 8 of them were when i was actually decent at the game but it just didnt feel fun to me

[potent gate]

But in return you'd hate hollow knight

[west stone]

KARAMA SHAW GIT GUD

[alpine parcel]

Did you ever record your R5 run?

[potent gate]

*GARRAMA

[north wraith]

ALRIGHT STOP MAKING UP THIS STUFF I'D NEVER HATE ON HOLLOW KNIGHT

[high escarp]

I liked the just do it a little bit at a time and chip away style of it

[vital egret]

I think I youtube streamed it at some point

[potent gate]

No blows up your food memories with mind

[jade cipher]

e

[north wraith]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[potent gate]

Ee

[torn garnet]

E.

[potent gate]

Blows up vessels s with mind

[jade cipher]

i think i ate too much uranium-

[north wraith]

And quick slash kinda sucks on sly

[high escarp]

and hitless has a fairly low barrier to entry if you don't mind being bad for a bit

[torn garnet]

Relatable

[west stone]

Woah sorry I didn’t know how to spell the voice lines hornet screams into my Face

[north wraith]

Why.

[high escarp]

I went from radHoG to r5 and was fine

[potent gate]

blows up your steelsoul run with mind

[torn garnet]

You should be

[jade cipher]

what why.

[alpine parcel]

Right so it might be on your page

[grim fossil]

I can definitely see that yeah, it wasnt so bad on pv running for me because i only really did streaks and these type of super long consistency challenges in shorter bursts but yeah, on a longer grind its just so unfun after a while

[north wraith]

I'm not going through another save just to die from primal aspids AGAIN.

[potent gate]

Primal ASPIDS spit has gravity btw

[high escarp]

I think it comes down mostly to individual experiences on going for it

[grim fossil]

like youre not really resetting because you need to learn anything youre just resetting because you basically did the mechanical equivalent of getting unlucky

[north wraith]

Copper tastes good too.

[high escarp]

but I genuinely found p5ab less enjoyable and around the same difficulty

[potent gate]

The primal aspids attacks have gravity so they tilt

[north wraith]

Okay I don't know if this is true or not

[potent gate]

It is look it up

[vital egret]

P5AB is fun to me but that's also just the kinda player I am. I love limited runs and doing things with the bare minimum

[north wraith]

I haven't played hollow Knight in a while

[north wraith]

I'll just believe you

[high escarp]

p5ab after the first time I enjoy

[potent gate]

That's why they aim so good

[high escarp]

but that first clear no thanks

[vital egret]

I feel boring in Silksong because for as robust and varied as all the tools and crests are I don't use any of em and just use a stock, vanilla hornet almost 100% of the time

[north wraith]

Ye they kept sniping me in those bird bombs and that's how I'd die

[potent gate]

Would you rather date the primal aspids or the craws from silksong

[jade cipher]

eh mid.

[north wraith]

It's good for you unlike uranium.

[abstract plover]

chat

[potent gate]

Steel is peak

[grim fossil]

i found AB and r5 to be around the same level of unfun tbh, it has very cool bosses that are genuinely fun but everything in between is just mind-numbing, i just had the luck of only really trying to actually do AB when i already had like 800 hours in the game so i just first tried it after practice pretty much and never had to actually grind for it very long

[abstract plover]

whats a good charm build for grimm ??

[vagrant dawn]

p5ab has been pretty enjoyable for a first clear
constantly selling has brought it down a lot but its not too bad

[potent gate]

That steel is made from soul

[jade cipher]

charm: idk shit.

[north wraith]

What's ab?

[grim fossil]

all bindings

[vagrant dawn]

All bindings

[high escarp]

I died to absrad in it really fast so the entire rest of the time was just getting killed by the chokeponits

[north wraith]

Oh alr

[potent gate]

What's y'all fav charm? Mine is sharp shadow

[high escarp]

it felt the same as grinding r5

whereas r5 was sitting at high pb for ages then dropping to low pb and getting the run very fast

[north wraith]

I forgot the name but it's from salubras shop and it makes it so that your nail doesn't knock you back

[potent gate]

Steady body?

[jade cipher]

who is general milky dude 🥀

[north wraith]

Ye that

[potent gate]

Milk these nu-

[vital egret]

I don't really see it myself, I've definitely bit it to absrad a lot in AB attempts but I never felt as annoyed or hopeless about it because I at least have a chance to lock in, heal, and keep it goin

[north wraith]

It carried me every run I had

[jade cipher]

THESE WHAT?

[potent gate]

Peanuts

[vital egret]

r5 is like "ope, touched, bleh, reset and do it again"

[high escarp]

this is our different experiences at it I think

[jade cipher]

oh he’s general milky.

[high escarp]

I did it mid r5 grind

so I didn't know how to comfortably heal in absrad

[potent gate]

General milky nuts

[grim fossil]

yeah this echos my experience quite well i think

[jade cipher]

how tf do you even “milk” these “peanuts”.

[high escarp]

but also was good enough to only die to ab specific difficulty bosses

[vital egret]

carefully

[potent gate]

I was trying to dodge s ban

[grim fossil]

i think r5 is like, genuinely a cool challenge until you get into sub 10/sub 5 category and then its just resetting until you get a good enough run

[subtle sable]

i hate this chat sm

[north wraith]

You get banned from saying that?

[jade cipher]

ok fuck no.

[potent gate]

Fuh nah

Y'all saw nothing

[high escarp]

and r5 was I sat at 6 hit or above pb for 40 hours so I didn't reset many runs on first hit then once I got into the really low pb got it in 10 or so

[north wraith]

Suck hollow knights what?

[high escarp]

so it was mostly fine

[potent gate]

Game

[north wraith]

I got my eye on you

[potent gate]

I found the most peak siksong mod the black flash crit mid

[jade cipher]

your name is haseeb.. i think that is an arabic name.

[stone delta]

where could i find the hollow point mod?

[potent gate]

Yes it is

[vital egret]

when I was trying P5AB, this was where I quit. I was having decent fun just throwing an attempt at it every few days and lowering my hit count, then I hit 11-ish hits and was just finding it very annoying cause I wasn't really improving anymore.

[jade cipher]

you are either arabic or pakistani.

[potent gate]

Pakistani

[jade cipher]

ah.

[potent gate]

It's hard here being s hollow knight fsn

[vital egret]

But it wasn't done at the time so I kept trying, and the SECOND, just frame 1 when someone else completed the challenge I bailed and never looked back

[jade cipher]

same here 🥀

[potent gate]

WAIT FR!!

[jade cipher]

is the economy great here

[high escarp]

r5ab is just the most soul crushing

[jade cipher]

yeah.

[potent gate]

DAP ME UP GNG

[high escarp]

worst challenge

[north wraith]

It sounds terrible.

[grim fossil]

yeah i remember cant blame you for it either, r5AB just takes both challenges that i already think suck and combines them into one

[stone delta]

does any of you know where hollow point mod it i need help

[high escarp]

with r5 you speed through until p4 section

[jade cipher]

“what???”

[potent gate]

I found an amazing silksong mod

[north wraith]

Idk where it is

[jade cipher]

ok

[potent gate]

The black flash crit mod

[jade cipher]

black flash in silksong? 😭 🥀

[north wraith]

Also if you can don't spoil silksong for me

[potent gate]

It turns the crit of wanders into black flash you cns even have the canon black flash muktiplier

[high escarp]

people could use it as a torture method tbh

[pastel nova]

Ello guys

[jade cipher]

oh shit its 10 pm and AND I HAVE MY EXAM SHIIIII-

[north wraith]

I have it beaten on my save but it's real torture

[north wraith]

YO GOTO BED

Or study

[jade cipher]

im so cooked its my last exam im fucking cooked ngl 😭 💀

[potent gate]

Just tell your parents you had no mind to think

And no will to bresk

And no voice to cry suffering

[high escarp]

surely

[north wraith]

?

[high escarp]

well first of all no reasonable person would do it

[north wraith]

Oh no no I'm not good

I didn't truly beat it.

[high escarp]

I know, "surely" was leaning into it

[near cave]

hello guys hk newbie here i saw the pure lake skip on a yt vid and now after a bit more research i think mightve missed a hornet cutscene cuz of it should i just reset the run for the full story?

[alpine parcel]

'no reasonable person' is a very amusing thing to read. But also doesn't feel wrong

[north wraith]

Like I was testing a glitch I saw that makes people invincible and I tested it on p5 all binds

[high escarp]

it feels true

[alpine parcel]

Exactly!

[high escarp]

although where the reasonable line is who knows

[subtle sable]

farewell golden or p5ab

[high escarp]

I think fwg is probably somewhere between p5ab and r5 from what I know and have tried

(again see previous opinion of mine but if I am separating them then fwg is going in the middle somewhere)

[alpine parcel]

Well just as one man's trash is another man's treasure, I imagine one HK player's reasonable is another's unreasonable!
I know there's been some things I've seen when I first got into HK years back that had me go "That's insane. I'd never try that."
And here I am now thinking "Yeah I could probably do that."

[high escarp]

anyone better than me is unreasonable and anyone worse is bad, clearly

[subtle sable]

idk fwg pisses me off worse because it's longer

on second thought is it longer?

[high escarp]

fwg is like 20 minutes

[subtle sable]

what's the psychology behind it feeling way more stressful

[alpine parcel]

there ya go, that's the spirit!

[dreamy glen]

I know this is a hollow knight place, but has anyone played Five nights at Candys recently?

Cause they're pretty damn good games

[high escarp]

fwg is a hitless run not a low equipment run

and hitless is more stressful as a general rule

[subtle sable]

r5ab when

[high escarp]

hopefully soon

but I'd been spending a couple of hours reclearing r5 charmless first

just to feel less bad

[subtle sable]

do you hate yourself 😭

[high escarp]

a good question

I don't think so

and in my defense I did reclear charmless in like, 4 hours

[subtle sable]

thats inspiring

[high escarp]

the problem is r5ab is just charmless but with 40% less damage and severe soul storage restrictions

anyway I can't do too many attempts in a short time because r5ab earlygame is a drain on my sanity

[alpine parcel]

I never felt compelled to even consider p5ab until after I beat SS and did my 2nd playthrough of HK. Cause by then I was like "ya know I'm actually feeling pretty confident in myself"

[high escarp]

I never finished act 3 of silksong

[wide plume]

Did you not like it

[high escarp]

I found it tedious

[wide plume]

Odd

[high escarp]

I am going to finish it one day

[alpine parcel]

I believe in you

[red storm]

@celest cairn

[alpine parcel]

You can overcome tedium and do it.

But also relatable! I remember having to take a couple breaks when I was getting thru Act 3

[abstract plover]

i am loving silksong man

[high escarp]

I just didn't find acts 1 or 2 hard so I am extremely underequipped

and suddenly traversing is unpleasant

[quaint meadow]

wsp general

why PUT AN slow-mode here there's no one talking always bro

[alpine parcel]

The curse of servers for popular games

[vital egret]

slowmode I think is more a preventitive thing. It's not that traffic is too much that it's needed, it's that there's always a chance some kid can just drop in and start spamming their ass off to disrupt things

[alpine parcel]

Ah right, or the scam bots who join and spam @ everyone with "CLICK LINK FOR MR BEAST BEASST GAMES ONE HUNDRED DOLLAR GIFT CARS"

[fickle pine]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-hello-andrew-gif-3091015989928111603

[pine wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-gif-22247756

[woeful bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-company-don-quixote-so-true-true-limbus-gif-8253418184755438916

i have a hole in my shoes

[limber monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/ihaveaholeinmyshoes-i-have-a-hole-in-my-shoes-hey-dad-can-i-get-new-shoes-of-course-buddy-gif-17691330662127410900

[fickle pine]

Hai

Any1 here???

[distant swallow]

hey fella

[distant swallow]

me ig

[fickle pine]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-predator1987-travolta-john-travolta-travolta-lost-gif-16290647927209436198

Oh yay

[north wraith]

Hi y'all

[fickle pine]

Hi

#CHATREVIVAL

[distant swallow]

hey hey

i think everyone here is just bored af

[north wraith]

Whatcha wanna talk about

[distant swallow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hollow-knight-hollowuser-degisikhesabmis-Tra7SLmdViyDkRwxSG

[north wraith]

I'm not really I Js got here

[fickle pine]

All of my kingsoul builds (most are ass ik)

[distant swallow]

well i am lmao

[pine wagon]

pilliows are underrated, debate me

[distant swallow]

why would you use kingssoul

[north wraith]

Glowing womb

[fickle pine]

Idk

I liek it

[north wraith]

I use the floor as a pillow

[distant swallow]

fr relatable

ima take a quick dump brb

[pine wagon]

you mean, no pillow?

[north wraith]

The one with soul eater and the one with shaman r good tho

[fickle pine]

Oh I call that the soul master build

[north wraith]

👍🏻

[north wraith]

Okay

[fickle pine]

@chatrevival

[pine wagon]

the fact anyone uses kings soul is concerning

[north wraith]

I only had 1 build for half of the game I played

[fickle pine]

https://tenor.com/view/twisted-bud-silksong-hollow-knight-hollow-knight-silksong-hollow-knight-silk-song-gif-7966014659090672519

[north wraith]

Kingsoul best charm in the game even better then shaman stone🔥

[fickle pine]

Guys should I do radiance? (I struggle on mawlek bc I don’t know how to hit ham and how to dodge)

[fickle pine]

They’re pretty good together

[pine wagon]

😭 🙏 buddy, in what world is kings soul good

[fickle pine]

With grubsong and weaversong bc ur a soul generator

[dark sluice]

Guys go to art gallery to see what im trying to make

[north wraith]

Grubsong kingsoul

[north wraith]

Uhhh sure.

[pine wagon]

its five notches, for passive soul at a low rate

[north wraith]

Soul eater kingsoul and grubsong equals soul maker

[pine wagon]

its honestly, a very garbage charm

[fickle pine]

With grubsong and weaversong it’s quicker bc the weavers get soul too

[teal geyser]

Hello world

[pine wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-hello-andrew-gif-3091015989928111603

[fickle pine]

Thx

[north wraith]

Your welcome

[woeful bobcat]

hi quirrel my buddy

u still owe me my rosaries

[limber monolith]

Hai

[limber monolith]

Uuuuuhh

[teal geyser]

He's the goat so he doesn't owe anyone anything

[woeful bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-stare-meme-angry-gif-14312537171363175004

[limber monolith]

OH LOOK AT THAT MY SESSION WITH PURE VESSEL HAS STARTED I NEED TO GO

[woeful bobcat]

oh buddy

[teal geyser]

I'll give you some rosaries just tell me how much you owe

[woeful bobcat]

1500 rosaries.

[limber monolith]

[teal geyser]

I got 3k bro

[woeful bobcat]

gimme

[teal geyser]

Alright buddy here you go

[woeful bobcat]

halfies

thank you bradar

[unique sundial]

Fuck me

97% bro 🥀

[teal geyser]

No problem bradar

[limber monolith]

Damn

[teal geyser]

If you say so

[woeful bobcat]

sorry

[teal geyser]

Where do we meet?

[unique sundial]

I didn't mean literally

[teal geyser]

Bro can anyone help me test something in jjs?(Roblox)

[unique sundial]

Alg

[teal geyser]

Oh

[unique sundial]

Nowhere and never

[woeful bobcat]

wait yall play jjs?

[teal geyser]

Sometimes

[fickle pine]

Lil white palace skip ( I think)

[teal geyser]

I wanna see how its like to get sealed with a custom kenjaku moveset

[unique sundial]

I don't even know the abbreviation for it

[hybrid gyro]

Helo

[teal geyser]

Jjs is Jujutsu shenanigans

[woeful bobcat]

jujutsu shenanigans

[teal geyser]

Yo

[unique sundial]

It might be the intended way by the looks of it

[woeful bobcat]

nice

[fickle pine]

I think so

[knotty skiff]

Hey guys I'm here cause the official mc discord is shut down for a bit

[fickle pine]

Xd

[unique sundial]

I forgot how white palace looks like but eh

[teal geyser]

Hello hotshot

[knotty skiff]

Hello

[unique sundial]

Alright ppl who just joined the chat, can u give me your reaction to this?

[fickle pine]

Yea I found the intended way

I found a skip

[knotty skiff]

Nice pfp did u draw it

[teal geyser]

You're unlucky as fuck

@woeful bobcat can you help me test it in jjs

[unique sundial]

So true bro

I even recorded it

I can send it rq

[teal geyser]

Bet

[fickle pine]

This part of my skip thing is tricky tho

[unique sundial]

Wait i just have to crop it since the whole video is 10 mins long

[eager coyote]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1283602046573875294/1365538264764649492/togif.gif

[teal geyser]

Damn

[woeful bobcat]

sadly, nope, i found it in pinterest

[woeful bobcat]

pass me ur user

[knotty skiff]

Oh

[teal geyser]

Dm so i can explain what i wanna test

[woeful bobcat]

alr

[untold oxide]

@eager coyote im starting to get it now

Im starting to understand his pattern

[cloud charm]

i have played sekiro, lies of p, demon souls, bloodbourne, LOTFallen, E-Ring n DLC, i have never thought of playing a roguelike or castlevania style 2d game ever, until i played Ori which i love and praised so much and now i got so much suggestions to play Hollow Knight and i must say this is one of my best, Top 5 soulslike, Top 1 Medtroidvania games ever! i cant wait to play Silksong

[pastel nova]

Why tf can this ugly fatass frog use spells

[unique sundial]

Aight bro here is the video of this unfortunate percentage 🥲

@teal geyser

I'm on mobile btw

[teal geyser]

Yea wait im doing sum

[unique sundial]

Aight

I let the last fucking dash orb too early 🥀

I almost never died there during practice mode

But ig the nerves got to me 🥲

[river socket]

where is quirrel.

[fickle pine]

Should I do POP?

[pastel nova]

WHY TF CAN GROAL USE SPELLS
anyways
Hi

[hearty kindle]

what if the old stag is actually multiple stags that just so happen to dodge each other in the stagways and they never find out

[wide plume]

Crackpot theory

[hearty kindle]

it would be really funny though

[wide plume]

Not really

Only one of them would get to see their home again

Only one of them would get slightly less depressed

The rest would all be still depressed thinking they are the last of their species

[hearty kindle]

no because you are the only one that calls them and when you go to the stag nest from other places the others go there too

[wide plume]

But they dont know the way

The whole thing about jogging Old Stag memory is because only Stags remember where their nest is

[hearty kindle]

yeah but couldn't the knight just tell them the way to it?

[wide plume]

If the other stags (In this theory) even heard the bell, they would not know how to get there\

[hearty kindle]

since it already knows from going there

[wide plume]

Yeah but why would it

Also they cant really voice it

[hearty kindle]

ringing the bell signals the stags where to go so they all probably hear it when you ring the bell to go back from the stag nest

you have to buy the stag station and then ring the bell to unlock it

[wide plume]

The Stag Nest is always open for Stags

[rigid jewel]

How can I beat p5 markoth and finish it with decent health

[wide plume]

they dont know the way there, is the thing

[hearty kindle]

yeah but they can hear the bell

[wide plume]

And they wouldnt know how to get to the bell

[hearty kindle]

how else would they know that your in greenpath or something if you don't ring the bell

[wide plume]

Thats Greenpath

[hearty kindle]

they can clearly hear it from far away

or literally anywhere else

[wide plume]

Of course they can hear it, they know the way to THAT stag station

they know the way to every other stag station by memory, aside from Stag Nest

Thats why when they hear THAT bell they know where to go

Their minds are simply so jaded due to time, even if they heard the bell from Stag Nest only the Old Stag that has gone to Stag Nest actually knows how to get to the bell ringing

[shell arch]

now its time for THE MIST

[wide plume]

Yeah, but theyd need to do the whole storyline again

[unique sundial]

Use dash slash to get him to phase 2, then use spells to destroy him

[pastel nova]

Why
Just why

[wide plume]

?

[pastel nova]

Why can groal use spells

[rigid jewel]

Oof

[wide plume]

They killed a shaman or sum

[unique sundial]

Yea, he did

[pastel nova]

Ohhhh

[distant swallow]

hey fellas 👋

[spark blaze]

hlo

[rigid jewel]

Hey

[teal geyser]

@unique sundial where's the gd level you sent

Im back

[unique sundial]

@teal geyser

[teal geyser]

Damn bro You're so good

[potent gate]

Y'all when can I post in memes?

I have a peak meme on me

[manic snow]

the humble #hk-meme channel m'lord

[subtle sable]

he said when 😭

[subtle sable]

you've sent 67 messages

[polar vault]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-if-sorrow-silksong-tomorrow-hollow-knight-gif-12013056154277092895

[subtle sable]

you need 300 for images

[polar vault]

im going to kill you bro