#hk-general
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what do I add?
Add professional help
WHAT THE
good idea
Any news about SilkSong dlcs ? '-'
Real
Hi chat
THE COMPLETE LORE OF SILKSONG
pharlooms is run by the capitalist goverment or the citadel. However it is not really ran by the citadel as theres a terrorist capitalist organisation controlling them by threating them w terrorist flies more commonly known as drill flies. The citadel has to fulfil their requests and make pharlooms capitalist. But they dont do that so the terrorist bees take over. The capitalist terror organisations goal is to match the gdp of the Dominican republic. The organisation also uses the death note from death note to kill the pale king as he was a competitor and they needed hius money. But then they realize geo is useless so they put radiance there cus why not. Then silkmommy creates hornet to save the day cus capitalism is bad, but everyone wants her so they fight her so they can capture her. They dont realize Hornet is lesbian and wants a baddie girl. So she finds shakra but shakra is shy so she hides with all the maps. That pisses Hornet off so she straight up eliminates shakra and takes all the maps for herself. But plot twist this parasite guy succeds caputuring her and then tries to make her his girlfriend but she rejects him and he gets so heartbroken he straight up dies. Then we hornet makes it to the citadel she realizes its a capitalist terrorist organisation but she gets thirst trapped and realizes shes straight but they tricked her and it was secretly a woman that was a man that was a woman so she gets capitalized. She is so poor she has to seek proffesional help and thus she finds the knight from the game the knight thats hollow. He tells her about how capitalists ate his brothers and that he wants revenge. But hornet the baddie she is puts him on mute and gets backstabbed by silk mommy. Hornet kills silkmommy but dies cus she plot twist silkmommy was hornets inner voice so she basically killed herself in front of the capitalists. Then the capitalists capitalises her even more and live happily ever after.
Delete it to mucvb words
Who wouldn't
no bro is fire
I ain't reading allat
Real
Who here is autistic
π«₯
Meeeeee
No me
Do you also feel like robot pretending to be human when you search about emotions on yt
I feel like an empty shell of what I once was
Damn
Same
Fym "no me" are you having an autism competition
Maybe π€
This is like this meme
name a charm that looks cool, mods included
Finally big enough massange that it compresses into a download link
Shadow slash
the lore is too big to send here
Glowing womb
Good
Omg
read it
send picture cuz i cant find ts
Someday later
pls read it
I have to sleep bro
It the charm tgat makes the shadow dash make damage
brodie this is hk general, it explicitly stated no spoilers for silksong
That*
sharp shadow?
Hey! I was gonna message a mod about posting something, but their bio says "use modmail", does anyone know where I can find that?
You seriously think ill read it rn?
Yes
No u aint sending it in images
in the lore its miss spelled
trust me it's spelled orginagnootanin
" The capitalist terror organisations goal is to match the gdp of the Dominican republic." ts is NOT in the lore gng
thats part of the lore bro
making a knight statue
have you even played skong
I hope it won't collapse
do I mod mail the lore
I remember when mods said that even if you just troll with the silksong spoilers you will be punished anyway
WHAT
That might have been deltarune server mods when ch3 and 4 came out but one of em said that
i kind of understand it
ts the hollow knight lore not skong
"The complete lore of skong"
as in skollow knight
Just stop
ok ill make ninesols lore instead
How old ar u
I genuinely wanna hear this now
le tme create it
Omg clay?
Prob not younger than @austere sundial
How much
#support-and-faq has the info you need
Guys I'm totally not younger than my new born cousin!
Who is char
Are you a furry
No?
Someone i was talking to a while ago on the server
Pfp look like one
Its lumine
You can't leave me alone can you
I can i just knew u would come back tho
Hi guys
Well we cant just assume by ppls pfps can we. RIGHT @austere sundial
Hiiiii
Look at mine
I think you can assume shit pretty well
It depends
Yeah
I thought its some dark dragon curled into a ball
Same lol
It's a bee furry
Selfi I took in vrchat

Lumine is the best
Who?
Lumine webcomic
It looks like puck from rezero
Sned
Looks like that one mario odyssey players pfp
In the webcomic theres a race of ppl with dog ears and tail who can turn to said dogs
Sounds like Agari from Komi Cant Communicate
But lumine is special like thst and is super duper better
He is cute tho
I like lumine very much
I can tell
Where is the grub?
He cute
How much do I love fallout 4. Such a cool game invested almost 250 hours into it. But I need to mod fallout new vegas for it to be more playable
Door
Thabks
THE NINESOLS LORE IS DOEN
Thru a door
If u send a fxkin text wall again bad things sill h
NICEE
Ure safe for now
Send it thru to dms if u want @clever wagon
js download it
Send it in bits
ok
Kk
ip grabber
its a notes file
ip grabber
want text wall instead?
ip grabber
I swear the god
(if it isnt obvious dont flood the chat with no wall)
thats not a meme
memes r supposed to be funny I got scared
what does it classify as
i am aware thats why i sent them to #hk-meme
we all cryied in hk true ending dude
it was emotional af for me dude
i cryied for hours
@clever wagon i just finished reading it all
W art from some dude on yt
Beat ||hornet||
Hi
Hiiii
Hullo
Helloooo
yh Im not making more
I literally got cramp
Damn
holy shit that had more words than my swedish test π
Who here has youtube?
Alg it was still a masterpiece tho
Click on my profile
Ur pfp looks ai generated
It is
Damn
I'm too lazy to draw it myself
soly hcam
Go away then
Lol
@dawn sableNo advertising. Read the rules
@burnt heath he take my children ban him
Huh?
Hi again
Ima take one for the team and check it out
Hiiii
Ok ππΌ
also just for future reference any youtube channel with ai pfps makes me want to block you rather than subscribe
Mb
Hiiii @lean grove
lol
pick up a pencil. smh
Nah
Can I send images here?
lilbro that is not you
Then perish
depends on the image, just make sure you follow the rules #rules-and-info
Like bosses and gameplay and stuff
I miss @hoary storm
That cool?
how do we know he is not scamming us
who
the guy
advertising
is it not a bit sus to ask in discord for subs?
but being too lazy to get an actual pfp
its called being lame enough to not be able to find an audience in your own
idt anyone is that lame
ai generated pfp
Tell me who Iβm missing (No dream bosses, because I know those)
yeah which shows he is lazy so why would he go to a discord of a game he doesnt even play
to advertise 
@dawn sable whats second hornet in hollow knight called?
do you think they wouldnt use ai for advertising if that was a thing they could do
Im as poor as an african
Idk
so we're js racist now
Racist
No...
Same time is crazy
tho the gdp per capita in africa is low
WTF BRO
did yall expect any better from an ai pfp guy
Yes Sar
Yes
lower your standards
I expected him to have my credit card details by now
wait pls tell me them
I lsot my card deadass
Why are u racist now, just ban this guy
Can't you take a joke?
Probs 11
@dawn sable how old ru? if youre under 11 you get ban
Age btw πΌ
Cant you be older than 10y old?
Brother... I'm older
how old?
More
@dawn sable why does the sin function create waves in a graph calc
Why does the sin function make a wave
Im shit at math
how much sections does path of pain have?
cus
ive gone through like 8 and im in tears
Cuz what
Doctors handwriting
Hehe
Well that explains it!
οΈ
_ _
Hello y'all
Hellooooo π
Hru
Same
Thats nice
Why is the collector so hard in P5
Idk
Like who the fuck thought that making him spawn primal aspids is a good idea
Radiant Grimm was easier than a singular primal aspid
Lol
Why doesn't the primal aspid have its own statue in godhome
Literally massive moss charger has one
Lol literally easiest "boss" ever
Bro you just have to spam hitting it with quick slash
And it's gone in instant
Who made that boss so easy
best way to grind geo?
Up to u
get a blender and put your geo in the blender then grind them up whit the blender
alr dawg
Where is the grub at the white lady?
was it useful
yes i got -3 geo
nice
now mix the geo powder whit some water for geo juice
Personally i just die to times in a row without getting my shade and then i become rich
Thank you! Do you know the average response time?
honestly depends on the mods available and the matter at hand
sounds good, appreciate the help β€οΈ
?tag ontopic
keep sequel topics to the sequel channels #sk-help #sk-lore #sk-discussion
oh mb
So huh u gonna delete it or nah
im slow, sorry π
Its fine
Guy's
WHO WANA HEAR THE COCONUT SONG?
The coconut nut is a giant nut
If you eat too much, you'll get very fat
Now, the coconut nut is a big, big nut
But this delicious nut is not a nut
It's the coco fruit (it's the coco fruit)
Of the coco tree (of the coco tree)
From the coco palm family
There are so many uses of the coconut tree
You can build a big house for the family
All you need is to find a coconut man
If he cuts the tree, he gets the fruit free
It's the coco fruit (it's the coco fruit)
Of the coco tree (of the coco tree)
From the coco palm family
The coconut bark for the kitchen floor
If you save some of it, you can build a door
Now, the coconut trunk, do not throw this junk
If you save some of it, you'll have a second floor
The coconut wood is very good
It can stand 20 years if you pray it would
Now, the coconut root, to tell you the truth
You can throw it or use it as firewood
The coconut leaves, good shade it gives
For the roof, for the walls up against the eaves
Now, the coconut fruit, say my relatives
Make good cannonballs up against the thieves
It's the coco fruit (it's the coco fruit)
Of the coco tree (of the coco tree)
From the coco palm family
The coconut nut is a giant nut
If you eat too much, you'll get very fat
Now, the coconut nut is a big, big nut
But this delicious nut is not a nut
It's the coco fruit (it's the coco fruit)
Of the coco tree (of the coco tree)
From the coco palm family
It's the coco fruit (it's the coco fruit)
Of the coco tree (of the coco tree)
From the coco palm family
It's the coco fruit (it's the coco fruit)
Of the coco tree (of the coco tree)
From the coco palm family
This is why i dont go in hk general
Thats super cool, dude
Wha..
this is why i go in hk general
Whats the fastest charm build to beat god tamer
Babystappen sounds more like a humming bird trying to squawk while its having an emotional seizure
i sing this song all the time to annoy my mum
π
A Catchy, Silly Song. . .
Real Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0AOGeqOnFY
also. felifaux pfp W
Ty
Ko ko ko ko ko nut
Am I a cornball
why
No
everyone is a little bit of a cornball
true
Is the coconut song cannon to the hollow knight
But does anyone know the fastest charm dps build for god tamer/beast tamer
Who wants to help me with my HK discord sever
The knight prob sings it after defeating radiance
Not me
Somehow sings
Sure ig
Does anyone know anything abt laptops
They cool
Do yk the asus tuf f16
I know theyre tuf f
Like fr tho or no
Itβs me, your lord and savior NKG
Nah
WHAT
I am not your husband gng π
uncs assemble! we all know who pink guy is
do any of us older individuals remember this man
Yes we all know
We know but cannot recall the specifications
Acting like your name wasnt atleast as corny
I donβt take part in your user
Want me to name yourself with my full name ,age,and credit card number
Plus the three numbers on the back
also i recommend not getting into a heated argument here, TAKE IT TO DMS! :O
Nothing happend twinπ
im just saying
congrats!
Is my name allowed here or do I need to change?
i think its allowed
Im tryna do p5 again and I just realised, over the course of playing, ive gone from "oh god its Grimm" to "at least its only Grimm"
βLordmaster69β doesnβt seem to be a bad name
I donβt see why not
Thank you giant vessel
Dont say it here
Where shall I say it, then?
Dm me
yearly? daily better
not for those tryna keep their sanity
Sorry, what does it mean to βDmβ?
I donβt understand internet slang very well
Direct messages
Thank you
Aka the message button
I understand now, thank you!
Dw
Discord is still a bit confusing for me
I probably sound like an old man using social media π
lmao its okay

Dont forget
The sun, dude
Iβd say a milk infection does not stand any chance against a god π
Yes it does
would a being designed to have no emotions care about shame
yes
explain
You are an infinite source of universal energy. There is nothing that can deplete you. There is nothing that can take you down. There is nothing that can suck the life out of you as some would have you believe, nothing. You are a universal source of energy and, as you learn about the Akene and its connection to the Akenet, you will discover that this source of abundance will continue to grow from within.
If the end of the pantheon (without the pale flower) is correct, what happened to the Hollow Knight?
does anyone have a good charm lay out for soul tyrant
Do you have abyss shriek?
Unknown
My head canon is that the Hollow Knight simply wasnβt infected anymore, and when it left the black egg, Hornet got scared, but no fight occurred
What would happen after that?
I hope he comes back in a silksong dlc
It should only take about 5 years.
Bouta start my daily P5 run any tips?
Whats the fastest charm dps build for god tamer/ beast tamer
anything but beating act 1 silksong bosses atp π₯ (nine sols final boss spoiler btw)
god tamer aint that deep lilbro
js use dedive
The mf boxing me up like atomic bomb vs baby
son π
dedive when he rolls and js pogo him
yes
Shaman stone, spell twister, and use abyss shriek when you can (mostly when he moves with the orbs around him)
D dark better
But not for the tyrant
tysm
Yeah
What?
im not getting this ass placement for monomon gang
Does anyone know where I took my profile picture >:)
explain
white palace near workshop?
No
lol u have maps for white palace and godhome??
nah it spawns me wit them'
path of pain?
Where
Tyler the creator is a cool guy
i just got dash in white palace 
Where in path of pain
@warm shard heβs spamming
Flooding*
Noice
Hi every one is just join
im playing hollow knight in vr rn 
I
I beat Path of Pain today
qbout half way
Am at kingdoms edge and I hate it for one reason
?
what is this diddy blud doing on the calculator bro π π₯
And that's cause of the primal aspid
ayo bro DAB ME UP
also
just use shadecloak diddy blud
its so easy
just be patient diddy blud
OH NO GABRIEL APOSTATE OF HATE IS TYPING
THE EASIEST BOSS IN THE GAME
Ok
SHIVER MY TIMBERS
why am i doing better playing in vr than i normally do...
WHY IS IT INPROVING ME? ITS STILL (technically) XBOX
i love kingdoms edge because i love fighting people in a colloseum
i alr beat hornet
and getting money
Idk what to do now
bro trial of fools is ez
greenpath or kingdoms edge
are you in greenpath
Yea
Ik
if you want shadecloak, your gonna need desolate dive, crystal heart and kings brand
maybe monarch wings aswell
and mantis claw
How to get the,
js say u gon need everything
you can do it without crystal heart because pogoing is more goated
the ,?
i can tell you the requirement and location
?
mantis claw needs shadecloak / mothwing cloak aka the dash. its located in the fungal wastes.
Help how to go to fungal wastes
You have to keep going down after getting dash
have u beaten hornet?
Yea
okay so dude
do you have forgotten crossroads map
because your gonna need it
the red circle is where youβll have to go
ill send you a map of greenpath too so you can find your way back
first i have to make sure, are you at where you fought hornet
because if you are, stay there.
rebzzy? hello?
are you at hornets place in greenpath
Yea
because im gonna need you to go back and follow the path leading towards the hunters journal
but dont go to hunters journal if you dont want a book with all enemies and their names
I want it
so i go for the book first
yeah, then you can go up
after that?
and stuff
go into forgotten crossroads. ill make ya a map
do you have it
the map for forgotten
Yea
good so
I got it
you got compass too?
the line under grub leads from greenpath
go all the way down, make a right, go down and go through the left door
today i have made what i consider great progress
(as in im not STUCK in the city of tears anymore)
So im on hollow knight still mid game of the lake place after i finish this game is silksong worth it
i just found a new area :)

hi guys
Hello
hru?
YES
wirth it
Cuz i bought it when i got hollow knight
Gud
nice to hear that

guys can i ask u for smth?

my little brother download hk for free but the skin its grimm?
did little bro pirate it
idk
Ask what website he downloaded it from
LOL
k
steamunlocked most likely
Yeah thatβs a mostly safe website
he say mediafire or smth like that
how old is he broπ
Nah probably a virus ngl
20 dollars aint that much
15
what
the game for consle and pc right?
how he download it in mobile ._.
i will sent a photo for the game
Baright
i love hk when i play it
ehhh
._.?
im mixed
Could be a virus maybe not
yeah
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VQfY9YeKZoo silksong won golden joystick pc game of the year LETS GOOOOO
Silksong wins pc game of the year!
yh
Ok yeah I donβt think thatβs a virus
The version he downloaded just came with a mod
@sand minnow master i need your help
igtg cya guys
Where is the map guy?
Failed champion?
guys, my hollow knight dont open after i install the lumafly for skins
somoene can help me?
Yea
where are you
I need him for s map
what area
idk men
tell me what it looks like
YO SOME DUDE JUST BEAT P5AB IN VC
WHICH IS GOOD, PERFECT.
HE STREAMED TS
ALL BINDINGS?
YES DUDE
THATS LITERALLY LIGHTWORK
k bro
Go farther down and too the left
Thatβs where cornifer is
"lightwork no reaction"
so just keep going down till you get to an area with a bunch of mantis guys with a crack in the ground
because i literally practice by doing radiant grimm
He gotta get the map bro
ohhh
Aura
tuff
How to beat soul waerrior
I wish there was a journal entry for absolute radiance
It doesnt rly make sense that there isnt any
Its just dream version of radiance after all
Whats radiance
Final boss
U rly wanna know or i shouldnt spoil u
How do i beat soul warrior
well guys I think I might going to fall back to square 1
P5?
I don't have any sort of practice to abs rad
Oh its ur 1st time
I think back to the drawing board after this fight
Lol alright, well she takes a lot of practice
Yep, i died to her like 5 times at the end of p5, and i still didnt beat p5 lol
Hey hey, gl for the practice, she gets consistent after a while (except last phase)
Max Grimm child for radiance trust
Grimm child carries
I spent like 2 days trying then second tried it with Grimm child
that's fine I'll just pogo outside the zone I know the balls disappear instantly if I am outside
ARE U FR
I know this through fireborn's run
Is that rly the way of doing it???
yes the balls expire instantly if it leaves the screen
which is very weird in that case
On p5? Or just in the boss list
Bruh I just finished nosk heβs easy but it takes so long
holy CRAP GUYS I JUST WENT THROUGH THE DARK OBBY PART IN CRYSTAL PEAK WITHOUT A LAMP
And is it like easy to do
Nice
yeah just kkeep pogoing radiance
if you know how to do vengefly pogo juggle then you're set
Ill train it ty
But she keeps teleporting tho
Shouldnt that make it annoying as shit
you would be surprised how high fucking double jump cover distance
Bro ure a genius
don't thank me thank the speedrunners
like fireborn
I thank whoever gives me the advice and that was u
Hello everyone
hi
PEAK OZEN PFP DETECTED
HELLA YEAH
Also hi and congrats on path of pain
Dude that part is so stress full lol
They deal 2 dmg these fuckers
Spells do carry tho
yeah i spammed spels
gg
Insanely impressive
To have gone that far without dying
Ik
Rly?
Im dyinG tO a Really hard Boss
Das me
nuh uh
Tf you mean Nuh uh
you heard me
Hello
if you say so
Feral baby Hornet :3
tiktok
Uhhhh don't ask
YSK
@high python is a murderer
yeah probably
Kk
that's clickbait or i don't exist
use it
let me dreamnail you
is anyone going to do something about the clickbait thingo above?
I dunno man
i would but i don't know who to ping
<@&283547423706447872> we have clickbait here
stop using gmail 
no
hey im stuck in crystal peaks and its lagging me just enough that my imputs are to delayed to get out, does anyone have any tips
yahoo!
Guys should I get unbreakable heart or unbreakable strength first
strength is really good
I say strength
bro GildedGuy possessed me in this replay (yomi hustle shyt)
like i cant reach any exits and my spawn is stuck to a bench keeping me here :(
What happens if you have 2 fragile charms
which one will divine take
no clue but i don't know why you would leave it to chance
hey guys
so uhh shayy happened
he lost 70,000 subscribers in thirteen days
i cant find an emoji to fit this
im really sad abt this one
i actually watched shayy
im gonna leave
use this a topic
who
*They
Pls don't misgender ppl behind their backs, even if they did bad shit /gen
I think pronouns should be the least of the worries here when the topic about them is how their SA'ing people
The headline isn't an exaggeration
hi guys
You play as the main character in a game called "hollow knight", You infact happen to be hollow, You are also a knight. What is the name of the character you play as?
THE VESSEL
I was thinking "The Knight" but the vessel works too
no the vessel is his actual name
nope i know my facts
what is this
idk hit it
ikd what else todo
It does go doyoyoyoyoing
yo wsg guys
i only lost one steel soul run to being afk unpaused in deepnest
found the shrine of belivers
Bruh are u playing on mobile?
Um
Is that possible?
Yes
How?
What that mean?
Wait can u actually play on mobile or are u playing on a fake?
Yes its pirated
Bruh u pirated it?
Who tf said that lol
U couldnβt spend ten dollars?
Okay I beat the radiance
I just wanted to try it ok? I didnt know i was going to get addicted like thatπ π π π
that was fun
Les go!
lol
Nuh uh
That one
under there
This one bro
tuff alberto fernandez
can someone help me beat trial 1 in the fools thing join hollow knight 2
does dying in Godhome end a steel soul game
What heights do I have to reach to make this
one of those turning reactions, except Ive never seen someone do it with Quirrel
FINALLY
No
is it just discord though
I just spent like 15 minutes getting ||great slash|| without even knowing what it was or anything because like my thought process was "oh hey I remember a path I couldn't get down earlier and I think I could get down that path with this new ability I got!"
Its really cool tho
like, is discord lagging or just loading stuff really slow
yeah lol
oh i should do this
Relatable
lmao
u get pretty good bragging rights if u do
maybe give it a quick Ctrl + R if you haven't already
Chat be honest is ||great slash|| actually even useful or was that a waste of time
Idk
hello gays
Welcome
why is bro so cute
ismoil i made an art :3
Wrong reaction ignore that first one
true
@olive ermine
it definitely is, but it has specific niches
It's 1 am for me
Which skin is better?
9am
Will I be able to make it to get this i just need pantheon 5 done then steel mode
yeh
Thanks madladdonut π₯Ή
my tip for p5 is to practice markoth, gpz, nkg and pv until you can do them without too much thinking since they're so late into it
Okay thanks dud
Gpz?
grey prince zote
thats chill
i did p5 on my first playthrough without doing gpz bc hes way too unpredictable
Also should train sisters of battle
train all of them until you can get them on ascended i say
Radiant*
you do not need that much skill to do p5
I beat them all on radiant on steel soul except gpz
And except markoth with sly and watcher knights
Still good
I use melee build so bosses for me are easy
Sooo
I think i should do the same thing but in dead cells
Defeating all bosses hitless
i only did concierge in that game lol
that game is so hard bruh
yeha i only did this on my main save
I did 5bc and collector hitless
I always get hit on Grimm because I try to dodge the bats like nkg
I just lazy to publish this photo again
Soo?
If youβve been waiting forever for Hollow Knight: Silksong, this oneβs for you.
Hereβs a full mashup of the best Silksong memes, Hollow Knight memes, and funny reels from the community β all in one place. From Hornet boss fight jokes to βwhen Silksong release date?β pain, this video is a love letter to every fan still waiting on Team...
These all suck bro
Lol
what r these
Iβm not sure but it might be purity and happy couple?
purity?
If you donβt have it then thatβs it
no as in
how is it achieved
happy couple ik already
Kill nailsmith
oh for fucks sake
now I have to kill a gay beetle AND I cant do these both on 1 save
Yeah
gh
guess I could use a regular game for purity
and then continue ma steel and save him
could even do the regular first, for just a lil more practice before steel
btw
when Hornet joins the fight against THK, how long will she be able to just hold them there until they break free or she drops or smt
Should i play hollow knight or study for tests
study
Probably not long because she gets weakened in the black egg temple
Damn alr
welp i just cracked my entire phone screen 
tho its Saturday not school time
Fair point that means i should not study. THANKS
play games
Goat
Also i kinda played sk before hk
So hk is so easy for some reason
Radiance is a childs walk
Absolute radiance is hell reincarnation
my friends threatened me if i played sk before i beated hk
empty threat
though I would suggest beating hk first if you've already started it
im like early middle game, also one of my friends knows where i live
lay traps 
good idea
does beast journal go towards percentage?
What build do I use for mantis lords
Im using sharp shadow but shape of unn works better
Hello
Actually shape of unn dodges hitbox so yay
hunter's journal does not count for %
ok thanks
I don't lol, but nice
I just use the same set for everything, that being, strength, shaman, quick slash, steady body, and dream wielder
Yeah really simple and effective
hi
Hello fall
Ok here is a message from our previous conversation
I 100% silksong
And now im playing hollow knight
@young otter
the 2% left i need is colo 3 and p4 π
ahh
those were y last two percents as well
remember to use nail arts in the colosseum
NMG helps a lot there
quick slash and quick focus carried me through it on the attempt i beat it, i recommend using those
