sk-discussion

[distant crown]

bull best theme

[brittle garnet]

It was on the Switch (I don't have one)
it was expensive
my friend had it on Switch but there's no crossplay

i decided to stick with one weapon instead of trying everything like i did in world

I started World with Insect Glaive but quickly switched to Greatsword, then HBG and then landed on Charge Blade, and dabbled in most other weapons

in Rise i'm insect glaiving

considering switching to Gunlance

probably, it didn't capture me in World

[cunning geode]

hammr

[brittle garnet]

but I kinda wanna stick with Insect Glaive

my friend was a Lance main in World and has remained a Lance main in Rise

Lance is the most underrated weapon for real

[manic minnow]

I love the fact Team Cherry has a Hornet bouquet.

[cunning geode]

she is embalmed

[brittle garnet]

Lance is the most aggressive and mobile weapon if you don't count Insect Glaive (and Switch Skills)

[manic minnow]

I guess... lol

[cunning geode]

lance is... mobile?

[brittle garnet]

yes

the core essence of playing Lance is attacking the monster literally every waking moment

and Lance gives you tools to be able to do that and respond to any monster attack

yeah Lance is the least played weapon

[gilded adder]

I want to play Rise but I tried the demo and my computer is so old it literally cannot load the proper textures and all I saw when booting up the tutorial area was a blue void.

[brittle garnet]

it's because Lance has a bit of a steep entry bar compared to most weapons

[brittle garnet]

F

[gilded adder]

Insect Glaive looks so fun though.
I know it was busted in 4U.

[cunning geode]

yeah i get how lance is super aggressive but idk about mobile

[brittle garnet]

It is quite mobile

[cunning geode]

not that its bad though, its powerful

what do you count as mobility

[brittle garnet]

guard advance, charge

those 2 are enough

[gilded adder]

The armor designs and customizing your weapons, character and playstyle is so my thing
And being able to play with friends is great
But alas, need a better PC

I could also start playing Dauntless

[brittle garnet]

the guard advance is an extremely versatile and powerful move in that it allows you to reposition and move while also not being vulnerable to attacks

[cunning geode]

cool

i just didnt know enough about lance

[brittle garnet]

I'm gonna tell you that Dauntless is easier on the performance but it's not the same kind of game

[gilded adder]

Yea, it's F2P so I imagine the grind is a lot worse.

[brittle garnet]

yeah, but also the combat system and stuff is different

it's a lot closer to dark souls than Monster Hunter is

[gilded adder]

How so? Just curious cause I never played either game

[brittle garnet]

but at the same time it's also quite forgiving

the combat is simpler but faster

in fact the hunts and stuff are designed to be very fast

(to make up for the grind )

[gilded adder]

But does Dauntless have insane aerial tactics and gameplay in the form of the Insect Glaive?

[brittle garnet]

no

[gilded adder]

Where you can go zoom and noom

[brittle garnet]

no

[gilded adder]

Then Dauntless is not worth my time

[brittle garnet]

the best you can get is a Gun-Hammer that allows you to blast-jump a short distance

(also Dauntless's combat system is extremely shallow)

(I have been following the game since open beta and it's kinda just been going downhill, in my opinion. My standards have probably increased due to monster hunter, though)

[gilded adder]

How's Sunbreak? I saw it has Mixed reviews on Steam but I'm assuming that's mostly PC issues and the like.

[brittle garnet]

idk, ask Yekane. I haven't started Sunbreak yet

but I have been hearing that it's basically "more of the same as Rise, but better"

[gilded adder]

How's the content?

[jagged socket]

i wish for silksong news with my plastic star wand

[brittle garnet]

Sunbreak is a G-Rank, so it has all of the base game monsters with new moves in addition to new monsters

[gilded adder]

I see

[brittle garnet]

Sunbreak, as a MonHun G-Rank, is kind of like a new game within a game

almost

[brittle garnet]

that's how every Monster Hunter expansion works

(I hope they don't make the new monster gear invalidate the previous gear, tho)

[valid sable]

Of course they did, it's all higher level gear, unless you mean something else

[brittle garnet]

updates

[valid sable]

oh those

[brittle garnet]

sad they made Lv1 decorations mostly kinda trash in Rise

for Iceborne it was mixed but some of the new added monsters, like Kulve, Raging Brachy and Safi, just added Best in Slot gear

uhh no

it had a gimmick skill on it

the weapons were the best dragon element weapons for some weapons

Safi Set was BiS for element

[valid sable]

Think I just ran around with ice MR Kulve dual blades

[brittle garnet]

I really wanna play element but making sets for each element is a huge pain

it's just so easy to make one raw set

and of course element is rarely even better

(depending on weapon)

Rise with rng charms

Attack and CritEye lv2 decos

I have protective polish on my current charm because IG helicopter do be eating up sharpness

at least speed sharpening is lv1 now and you can sharpen while unsheathed

you can't with other weapons?

anyway i love my little bug friend

Stun kinsect go BONK

try unsheathed next time, i guess

i mean i like yesterday found out IG has I-frames on helicopter slashes

just after you bounce up after hitting with it

i don't mean the switch skill btw i mean the red extract aerial helicopter

damn

how's horn actually

the breakdance just seems so dull to me

💀

removed both difficulty and fun from the weapon tbh

[valid sable]

I've only ever heard that horn is a ton better in Rise, lol

[brittle garnet]

it's easier

yeah basically

I liked it better in World, it was a lot harder but also more satisfying to pull off

actually Hunting Horn was the most difficult weapon to play well in World

I mained charge blade mind you

charge blade is also very fun, playing it feels like clockwork (if you play well)

[tawny basalt]

Monster hunter discussion

[brittle garnet]

I'm interested in trying out Gunlance if i do decide to switch

also Bow

[tawny basalt]

I play gunlance it is fun

[brittle garnet]

Gunlance, Bow and Switch Axe are like the 3 weapons I'm interested in learning

[serene chasm]

mh again?

[brittle garnet]

go play it so you can join in

[tawny basalt]

I play two of those, switch axe is really fun especially with counter

[serene chasm]

no thank you. but you all have fun

[brittle garnet]

[valid sable]

no fun allowed

[tawny basalt]

Okay, silksong will never come out then

[cunning geode]

no btsx episode 3

[serene chasm]

you dare imply ss is "fun"

[tawny basalt]

Yes

What is silksong then

[valid sable]

Guess we'll have to do with Linensong then

[tawny basalt]

That is also deleted from the internet

[valid sable]

Cottonsong?

[tawny basalt]

There is nothing fun left

[valid sable]

Hempsong has gotta be fun

[tawny basalt]

This is all your fault monster hunter is still here cause it is not fun

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-world-mhw-iceborne-gif-20902033

Either way, goodnight all

[north vessel]

night

[tawny basalt]

I hope all of you have a good day

[north vessel]

You too of course

[uncut citrus]

Goodnight, Tonio

[subtle flint]

[tawny basalt]

I’m officially going to sleep but man is this chat dead

[elfin reef]

Dead chat

[shy kiln]

I LEGIT THOUGHT THAT SAID TECHNO. WOW HIS DEATH STILL HASN’T LEFT ME. 😭

[tawny basalt]

Yep, I am now technoblade

[shy kiln]

Techno back from the dead??

[tawny basalt]

official goodnight all

[uncut citrus]

[wheat temple]

Remember kids, you only YOLO once, so you better do that as ASAP as possible!

[warped umbra]

"you only YOLO once" = "you only you only live once once"

but yeah true

[shy kiln]

#sk-discussion

[uncut citrus]

i cant tell if thats a joke or if you didnt get the joke-

[subtle flint]

[warped umbra]

we do a lil bit of trolling

[tall juniper]

We are gathered here today to mourn the loss of #sk-discussion

it was a good chat

[uncut citrus]

Its just sleeping

[gusty cloak]

Man i was taking a nap and this funeral woke me up

[gilded adder]

Reviving chat powers
Activate!

[gray lance]

tools

[gilded adder]

🛠️

[coarse leaf]

i have been revived

[stuck rampart]

okay but why did capcom turn hornet into a monster hunter weapon?

[tall juniper]

real?

pog

[stuck rampart]

now i must use it out of respect

[soft creek]

Hornet has entered the chat

Ahem,

Hornet had entered the chat

why nobody care

[warm steeple]

Lol

[soft creek]

I am here to bring life to this dead chat

stop being dead chat

K I’ve done all I can do bye

[sly summit]

Hi

I came here to bring life, because I have a pot on my head

https://tenor.com/view/smieszny-pies-gif-21542123

[cerulean sable]

shape of silk

[digital glen]

silk master

[soft creek]

Heh bread

🥖

[gilded adder]

Hornet Sheeran

[cerulean sable]

true

[digital glen]

Jonny did you watched the latest BCS episode?

[gilded adder]

Yes

Episode 8?

It was devastating (positive)

[digital glen]

i think im anesthetized from episode 7 still but damn

[gilded adder]

The last 5 episodes gonna go so hard

[digital glen]

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[tranquil igloo]

🦦

[gilded adder]

otter pop

[tranquil igloo]

Dawn of the Otter

[fiery coral]

Rise of the Planet of the Otters

[shell cedar]

milkmonh

[tranquil igloo]

I haven't seen this emoji been used in a while

[shell cedar]

rilkrong

hilkhong

[tranquil igloo]

I barley see it

[sly summit]

who is Barley

[cunning geode]

im aware that searching this also just searches any mention of "zote" but trust me, a lot of it is the emote

[sly summit]

I wanna play ultrakill

[tranquil igloo]

Me bro, is there two mythicals here?

[coarse leaf]

cool

[cunning geode]

good question

i have no idea

[sly summit]

I have no moneeeeeey

but I am Kaan best friend

right Kaan?

(kaan probably hates me)

[digital glen]

right

[fiery coral]

Doesn't that also count usage of just 'zote'

Or am I misremembering

[cunning geode]

yeah thats what I said

[fiery coral]

...

I did not read after

[tall juniper]

think this shell dude is related to lemm?

[fiery coral]

My bad

[cunning geode]

is gandalf related to dumbledore?

[dense cove]

lemm uncle

[tall juniper]

wizards ✅
white hair ✅
something else idk never read game of thrones or Lord of the Potter ✅

the long bearded fellas

[elfin reef]

Maybe? Looks similar but not identical

[tall juniper]

and no shell but

[elfin reef]

It doesn’t look like the trailer guy had horns

And the arms and legs are different

They would have to go backwards to do that

Lemm’s goes forwards

Look at it again

It goes forwards and up

[fiery coral]

[tall juniper]

I killed a chat by posting

[gilded adder]

Ched

[uncut citrus]

[versed pollen]

I can see why

[serene chasm]

Cheddar Cheese

[thin sphinx]

[cerulean sable]

ok so weve talked about how

SS is gonna be religious and shit

or at least the theming of it

[thin sphinx]

what

[cerulean sable]

and weve talked about stuff like Dies Irae playing as a common leimotif in the Silksong OST

so if we based it on biblical stuff, what are the chances we start hearing horns impending bad shit happening in Pharloom

im not a theologian but from my childhood experience, horns were a significant instrument at at least, namely being a signal for the apocalypse

[sacred stratus]

Good morning everyone!

[cerulean sable]

🅱️ornin

[fiery coral]

How were your interview and exam?

[sacred stratus]

They went ok. I have another interview today

[serene chasm]

nice. thats always a good sign

[toxic sable]

Christian here! I can’t speak for other religions, but horns and trumpets typically are Biblically used to represent something important happening (i.e. the new reign of a king or the end of the world in Revelation)

[sacred stratus]

I’m Jewish and yes it’s true here as well

[plush pendant]

Another day bites the dust (yesterday)
330 more days to go

[toxic sable]

so if dies irae or something else like it is in the silksong ost that could be an indicator of religion but i wouldn’t call it certain

[fiery coral]

Good luck!

[cerulean sable]

I mean im a christian too, so its i have a slight background to it 🥴

but yeah the most i remember is the revelation trumpets and the battle of jericho i think, where they simultaneously played trumpets to crumple the walls

fair enough

[elfin reef]

We hollow knight fans are so desperate we get excited over 10 day milestones

[cerulean sable]

something about trumpets creeps me out

[plush pendant]

It's just me

[toxic sable]

true, especially when the reason for it is unknown

[vivid belfry]

the dies irae isn't just a religious motif, it's used in all sorts of media to denote death

[elfin reef]

I got excited too, you aren’t alone

[toxic sable]

like a trumpet could be a good suspense builder

[vivid belfry]

like the introduction to the film adaptation of the shining for example

[toxic sable]

fair point. iirc it’s in Catholic liturgy but i hadn’t heard it much of anywhere else

[cerulean sable]

kinda side note but one of the most probably influence to why is it reminds me of a Silent Hill short novel and it depicts a flyer with a Trumpet/gun (which i assume is supposed to be thematic to the trumpets of revelations) waking up Pyramid Head

[vivid belfry]

Hey Ttaco remember that guy from Blasphemous who's all fucked up with trumpets obliterating his limbs

[cerulean sable]

which one

i havent played it for a good while so i dont remember

[vivid belfry]

the guy who signals the coming of the Amanecidas

I don't remember his name

[cerulean sable]

yeah i dont think i played the DLC

[vivid belfry]

bruh that was like 2 DLCs ago

[cerulean sable]

what i do remember is blind baby and skeleton pope

[vivid belfry]

I highly recommend you replay it, it's gotten a lot of very good content updates and rebalances

[cerulean sable]

look tbf i dont remember a lot of Blasph despite me being raised catholic so it resonated to me 🥴

well see

i think my complaint was the platforming but afaik its ok now

[vivid belfry]

including a new true ending that really brings the lore and thematics of the whole world together

[fiery coral]

oh that guy

uhh it was something with J

Jibrael

[vivid belfry]

that's it

I almost said Jabras but that's a guy from One Piece

[cerulean sable]

is that supposed to be discount Gabriel

[tall juniper]

many mids mods in chat, gotta stay still

[vivid belfry]

muted for trying to avoid the watchful gaze of the panopticon

[cerulean sable]

ngl my dream area for SS would be some fucking half sunken panopticon prison

[proud vale]

goddamn

[fiery coral]

what is a panopticon

[tall juniper]

dont mind me

[fiery coral]

could've sworn I'd read that word somewhere before but can't remember

[fiery coral]

🤝

[proud vale]

I also had to google

[cunning geode]

style of prison with a central tower purveying all the cells around it

[fiery coral]

Ah, I see

[cunning geode]

its also a sick music track from Serious Sam 4

[cerulean sable]

voila

[fiery coral]

bravo

[thin sphinx]

bearvo

[fiery coral]

this is where Grindle is trapped right

[thin sphinx]

yes

[cerulean sable]

real shit tho they were used because the idea was that putting a tower in a middle of a dome would mean that every single prisoner would FEEL like theyre being watched 24/7

[tall juniper]

1984-

[fiery coral]

[cerulean sable]

they never went into construction i think afaik

they were more like a suggestion by some philosopher on making prisons to keep everyone in check

[fiery coral]

oh good 😅

Jeremy Bentham, says Google

[cerulean sable]

no wait they were built 🥴

[fiery coral]

isn't he the guy whose skeleton is in Oxford

or something

[cerulean sable]

not sure

but nowadays theyre more of a relic of the past

[fiery coral]

okay no it's University College London apparently

[cerulean sable]

i see

[hollow terrace]

Didn’t know University College London apparently had a watchtower looking over all classes

[proud vale]

Sir that looks like a lighthouse

[tall juniper]

what can you expect from Br*tain 🤮

[fiery coral]

yeah that was my first thought too 🤝

[versed pollen]

Maybe it is a lighthouse

Get a pulse every few seconds while you try to sleep

[hollow terrace]

Bucko if there’s a tower built to WATCH over something im gonna say watch tower

[fiery coral]

Can't argue with that logic

[proud vale]

watch tower confirmed in Ss

[coarse leaf]

Hi chat

[tall juniper]

Evan

sucks I have to sleep because im about to pass out

[coarse leaf]

har har

[cerulean sable]

its a good enough drawing

[tall juniper]

well uh. good luck on whatever projects you be doing, but i must take my leave, ciao

[coarse leaf]

hi taco

[cerulean sable]

and its killing me dunununununn

alright, stop waiting

[coarse leaf]

also is ur nickname talking about like the crown of thorns or something idkk

[fiery coral]

it's a reference to the Pale King's head

[coarse leaf]

Hi unique

[sacred stratus]

Hi Evan

[coarse leaf]

❔

[wheat sail]

Hi frostyy

[sacred stratus]

Kirb

[coarse leaf]

Hi stroty

[fiery coral]

Hi Evan 🍓

[wheat sail]

[coarse leaf]

Hi kirb

[wheat sail]

hey evan hey unique

[coarse leaf]

Guys whatd u do today?

[wheat sail]

absoutely nothing

[coarse leaf]

Its like 10pm so the day is over

[fiery coral]

college assignment

[sacred stratus]

Play Celeste or something

[fiery coral]

it's 10:50 AM here

[sacred stratus]

I thought you have a summer break Unique

[wheat sail]

1;20 am

[sacred stratus]

8:20 AM

[fiery coral]

College never stops

[sacred stratus]

True

[fiery coral]

(in all seriousness it does but the break was done last month)

[coarse leaf]

Today i did a bit of cleaning, played some stardew valley, and went with my family to the mall (boring as heck)

[sacred stratus]

Ok mine will start in about a month and it would only be half a month long

[wheat sail]

i hecking love the mall

[fiery coral]

Malls are fun though

[sacred stratus]

I don’t like malls

[cerulean sable]

no its a reference on how we wear it upon our brow
and that want is not is not a need, reserved for human beings

like i get it dude, you feel like its fingers is on your throat
that pain is that all things know

[coarse leaf]

I mean like we were going clothes shopping too

[cerulean sable]

wait brb an army of the gollems is stalking now the heartlands

and theyre eating all reality

[sacred stratus]

Too many people and I don’t like shopping for clothes

[coarse leaf]

and also it wasn't even clothes shopping for me (which probs would be more boring)

[wheat sail]

i kinda like the atmosphere of a big mall

[fiery coral]

but there's more stuff aside from clothes shopping

[coarse leaf]

so basically i just stood around for 5 hours and ate panda for lunch

[wispy stream]

i too like eating pandas

[uncut citrus]

Kirbstar.

[wheat sail]

Im gonna go to the mall ight now

[sacred stratus]

I don’t really like shopping at all bcs I either feel like I waste my money at overpriced cloths or my parents’

[fiery coral]

ate panda...?

[fiery coral]

have fun

[coarse leaf]

Well actually stood around for 3 hours, and was in the car for 2 hours

[wheat sail]

you too

[uncut citrus]

Kirbstar.

[fiery coral]

I'm sorry what meal is called 'panda'

[coarse leaf]

Panda express

[wheat sail]

reeves

[uncut citrus]

Kirbstar its 1am.

[wispy stream]

i went to the mall yesterday to see minions

[sacred stratus]

Hi Reeves

[wheat sail]

oh yeah the mall is closed

[uncut citrus]

actually like 2 or 3

[fiery coral]

first time I've ever heard of it

[wheat sail]

yorkdale mall is a pretty huge mall

[coarse leaf]

Fast food """"chinese""""

[wispy stream]

i phased for 10 minutes at the end battle
too much sensory overload
being close to the screen didnt help

[fiery coral]

ah I see

[wheat sail]

reeves did you see the league star guardian anime thingy

[coarse leaf]

Yeah, shopping is boring + i cant really get that many clothes i actually like so it doesn't even matter anyways

Anyways i did some of cleaning my room today and i am proud of myself!!

My reward? Cleaning my room even more tomorrow!

[fiery coral]

Hooray!

[sacred stratus]

And pride

[fiery coral]

[wheat sail]

Cleanliness is a virtue

[sacred stratus]

My room is messy

But I like the way it’s messy

I know where everything is

[coarse leaf]

I was at it for about an hour and i got through 2 thirds of a shelf

[wheat sail]

like there is brown sludge on the floor and bloody blankets?

[uncut citrus]

oh no

i forgot you got nitro now

[sacred stratus]

Why is that a problem?

[coarse leaf]

My room has literally never been clean so i wanna make it clean

[wheat sail]

yeah and then you can hang up celeste posters

[fiery coral]

[tall juniper]

NO

[coarse leaf]

I feel like shit knowing theres stuff in my room ive never even looked at in my life and i know where nothing is

[wheat sail]

Hollow Knight: Return to Hallownest

[sacred stratus]

You get used to it

[wanton eagle]

The Return of The King.

[coarse leaf]

I actually kinda wonder if cleaning my room will help with motivation for projects

Like feeling all organized and having cleaning be out of the way like i might feel a bit better and actually be able to do stuff i wanna do (celeste mapping)

[wheat sail]

yeah you could start with stuff like cleaning your room, could motivate you

also having a clean room is nicer to work in

[coarse leaf]

I guess motivation is probably the wrong word

i have motivation im very motivated i just don'

I can't i don't yonwoww..

[fiery coral]

[coarse leaf]

Like i motivated yknwo

Ut like when i have everything set up and im ready to start i just don't and can't and im like ill do this next week

[old sparrow]

sekiro: shadows dry thrice

[serene chasm]

procrastination?

[sacred stratus]

I suffer from it

[serene chasm]

sa

[fiery coral]

sa

🇸🇦

[thin sphinx]

sa

[sacred stratus]

this image is funny

(tell me if I should delete it or smt)

[wheat sail]

delete it twice

[sacred stratus]

no

[wind ibex]

how long do people spend analyzing silksong trailers and reveals

[serene chasm]

4000 hours minimum

[wind ibex]

clocking more hours on ss trailers than hollow knight hits diff

[brittle tangle]

Btw how come no one ever analyses the poem at the start of silksong?

[wind ibex]

+300 hours of analyzing

[coarse leaf]

both the deletes cancel out each other

[serene chasm]

We have. Just isn't much there to talk about

[serene chasm]

Deleting twice is deleting and then emptying the recycle bin

[coarse leaf]

what if you dont have it saved on your pc

what if you use shift + del

[fiery coral]

too bad

you will delete it twice regardless

[thin sphinx]

Does that mean deleting thrice means deleting it, emptying the recycle bin and then deleting the bin?

[sacred stratus]

but what if I go straight to storage and delete it from there which is the same thing but only one step?

[coarse leaf]

what if i just delete it and then break the storage

[wheat sail]

I sleep... good night

[grave snow]

gn kirbstar

[wheat sail]

Thank you, I'll say goodbye soon. Though it's the end of the world don't blame yourself now

[uncut citrus]

Good night, Kirbstar

[wheat sail]

@grave snow

[grave snow]

[wheat sail]

Thank you

[plush pendant]

@grave snow

[grave snow]

[nimble pebble]

@fiery coral

Hello

[shy kiln]

#sk-discussion

Hey guys.

[past brook]

Hey there

[shy kiln]

Obi Wan Kenobi.

[velvet sentinel]

hi chat

you aren't the real ace btw

and don't steal freeze frames out of gifs as pfp

https://tenor.com/view/dead-cells-death-funny-gif-25837825

[quartz cave]

Well you dont steals characters from a non existent game to use as pfp

[velvet sentinel]

[uncut citrus]

Would mine fit that description?

[quartz cave]

Uh no

Becauese youer reeves

[uncut citrus]

Apparently my pfp is too spoilery and so not allowed out of this channel

Even tho it isn’t technically Sherma

...i pointed out that the same would probably be the same for Quin

[quartz cave]

I kinda agree, sherma's wedding was a big important event on silksong

[uncut citrus]

Quin if you ?av in another channel from this one you’ll get banned

[quartz cave]

do it do it do it

[uncut citrus]

Aval, your pfp is hornt from silksong, spoilers

Get banned

[quartz cave]

/?/ban Aval reason: sliksog spoilers

[plush pendant]

Nooooooooooooooooooooo

Well at least I drew it myself

[quartz cave]

/?/unban Aval

[plush pendant]

Yuyyers

[uncut citrus]

Lily drew mine, not like it was anything close to how he looks in game, yet still too spoilery?
Eh it’s useless to complain there, I’ll just not send my pfp in others channels I guess, i don’t often go there anyways

[plush pendant]

You guys go in other channels?

[quartz cave]

Are you the sliksog discussion president yet?

[uncut citrus]

Currently aiming for Admin..

[quartz cave]

That works too

[plush pendant]

...to playtest Silksong

[quartz cave]

Can i steal your nomnom

[uncut citrus]

I got a good strategy to make it work

[uncut citrus]

Sure, I stole it myself

[quartz cave]

Yay

[uncut citrus]

@ Simo
Give me admin plz

I’ve tested before and it should work

[quartz cave]

Shh dont do it on public or everyone will get admin

[uncut citrus]

You’re right

Actually I got a better idea, I should just get transferred ownership, this way It’il look like nothing change, but I would be higher yet than mere admins

[coarse leaf]

you would still have a crown next to your name wouldn't you

[uncut citrus]

You can remove that

It can go
Unnoticed

[alpine crane]

U can actually remove it
If u make a role and make its name show on userlist

And give it to urself obviously

[coarse leaf]

reeves with owner

also gm

[uncut citrus]

Didn’t you wanted me banned
Like a day ago-

[coarse leaf]

uh

shhhhhhhh

[cerulean sable]

god imagine Silksong's tutorial being THIS direct

i know its not a big deal but when game characters gets super direct with their tutorial it takes me away from it

"Hmmm these orbs can make me bounce, maybe i should jump and attack them downward to get above that platform"

i much prefer it when its like

[velvet sentinel]

mh this wall looks like i can break it. Maybe i should attack it with my nail by pressing Y

[cerulean sable]

"These objects, these should help boost me up"

Prompt: Attack + Down Direction = Downward directional attack

my favorite is like HL2

Barney is warning you that Civil Protection is about to kick the door open and tells Gordon "Stack up some crates or something and out of the window, ill meet up with you and Dr Kleiner"

E - Interact and carry objects

and your left to your own devices

[jade canopy]

Don’t worry though, Nintendo will do us our tutorial like they always do. "Attack enemies to do damage, and then, defeat them, also press the heal button to heal and never forget that defeating enemies will grant you experience and that experience will make you level up"

[cerulean sable]

and environmental things like these feels more like they should be a show dont tell approach

[onyx dawn]

I don’t think they would do that so it’s probably fine

[cerulean sable]

ye ye ofc

TC knows the entire dont tell shtick\

if anything i expect well get more of those "oh wait, im 15 hours in the game and didnt you could do that?" moments

[onyx dawn]

I mean
Not like hornet would just randomly talk about binding

“Hmm. The wounds i bear are far too great. I shall use silk to bind and heal my shell.”

[silent meteor]

I am back, I just want to reply to that one message that I should've replied a long time ago

[wanton eagle]

[silent meteor]

wait...

Lmao

[velvet sentinel]

yes

[silent meteor]

Is this some kind of random bait you've been intimidating people?

[velvet sentinel]

also reply ping on 18 day old message smh

[silent meteor]

I already know and I should've done said it long ago and I wanted to say it.

[velvet sentinel]

?

[silent meteor]

I only warned like 2 times now I don't think a ban is still enough

[velvet sentinel]

whats your problem with me saying ban this user?

like bro mods are not gonna listen to me saying ban this user 😭

[coarse leaf]

ban this user

[velvet sentinel]

ban this user

[silent meteor]

El stoopid

[velvet sentinel]

insulted? Ban this user

[velvet sentinel]

wdym?

[uncut citrus]

It’s a joke, not like Quin was seriously asking for us to be banned

Besides if I could get banned, it would have happend a while ago-
I mean-

[velvet sentinel]

if i was asking someone to get seriously banned i would ping mods

[kindred pewter]

is that gleamlight?

[silent meteor]

Doesn't look too obvious to be a joke though so sorry.

[sinful flare]

more like

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/984925703185244200/adminsping.gif

[coarse leaf]

i couldn't be more convinced

[charred pulsar]

Yeah?

[brittle tangle]

Ban quinesse pls

[charred pulsar]

On what grounds?

[uncut citrus]

Today it’s not about banning me, but rather making me owner, pretty please

[sinful flare]

ban quinesse pls

im tired of him

[uncut citrus]

Even Quin knows he should get banned

[digital mural]

SiLkSoNg!

[brittle tangle]

Still, no

[quartz cave]

I cant agree more in my life

[uncut citrus]

Aren’t I always right?

[quartz cave]

Yes

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/984925703185244200/adminsping.gif

Give Reeves owner

[uncut citrus]

(Obviously this means I’m also right when saying I should get ownership and also if y’all could PayPal me a few hundred it wouldn’t go unappreciated, my PayPal’s-)

[brittle tangle]

Me?

[uncut citrus]

Banned for impersonation

[quartz cave]

Paypal says -) is unvalid

[brittle tangle]

Not if I ban you first

[quartz cave]

No

[celest thorn]

🤙

[brittle tangle]

!ban user @quartz cave

You are banned

[uncut citrus]

Ismoil banned

[quartz cave]

~ban user @brittle tangle

You are also banned

[brittle tangle]

You can’t ban from the afterlife

[quartz cave]

I can tho

[uncut citrus]

[brittle tangle]

$shoot @quartz cave

[quartz cave]

$unshoot @quartz cave

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/nero-confused-devil-may-cry-gif-19327844

[quartz cave]

Reeves

[brittle tangle]

Yes?

[quartz cave]

I said reeves not reeves ripoff

[brittle tangle]

Yes?

[quartz cave]

Reeves where are you did you go

[brittle tangle]

Here

[coarse leaf]

maybe reeves was the friends we made along the way

[quartz cave]

Did you die from a lot of weaverparty

[uncut citrus]

Ok fine, I’ll let the real Reeves talk

[quartz cave]

Yay reeves

[brittle tangle]

Thanks

[uncut citrus]

@brittle tangle was the real Reeves all along

[quartz cave]

Nah

[uncut citrus]

[quartz cave]

~ban @brittle tangle

[noble patrol]

Leg

[quartz cave]

Wait i need to tell the mods why i banned you 3 times brb

[uncut citrus]

Why does this chat end up talking about me everytimes i join chat anyways-

[brittle tangle]

~disable ~ban from use of @quartz cave

[quartz cave]

No

[uncut citrus]

OMG ITS LEG!

[quartz cave]

Becuese youer reeves.

[coarse leaf]

You need to stop being reeves

It's the only way

[uncut citrus]

[coarse leaf]

Break the cage of the Reeves and let the soul be free

[uncut citrus]

But what will I be, if not Reeves?

[quartz cave]

UniqueNameForMe

[coarse leaf]

idk become greg 2 electric boogaloo or something

[uncut citrus]

Good idea

That’s a pretty unique name idea

[quartz cave]

Ya

[shy kiln]

UniqueNameforUniqueNameforMe.

[quartz cave]

Nah

[uncut citrus]

I shall make it my new nickname
Surely it can’t be anyone else’s, it’s very Unique

[coarse leaf]

That's such a unique pun

[quartz cave]

LMAO

[brittle tangle]

Now it is no longer unique

[quartz cave]

Nah

But see the good way

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/madagascar-zebras-we-are-unique-unique-were-unique-gif-22812209

[quartz cave]

Theres one reeves now

[uncut citrus]

Actually since Unique’s name is « Uniquenameforme », just being named « Unique » woudnt be impersonation..

[coarse leaf]

apparently not

[quartz cave]

Smh

[brittle tangle]

[coarse leaf]

singular reeve

[uncut citrus]

One of my pawn.

[coarse leaf]

you have a single pawn

[brittle tangle]

Now this is a good name

[quartz cave]

Nah

[coarse leaf]

uqn will never be the king

[brittle tangle]

Who is the current king?

[uncut citrus]

UNQ is the storm that is approaching

[quartz cave]

Reeves

[brittle tangle]

[uncut citrus]

Since when am I king?

And why did Leg react with 🎣 to that?

Leg? leg I’m a huge fan, but why?

[quartz cave]

Since 7^0

[uncut citrus]

I think I’ve only had two or three actual interactions with you, Leg, but I’ve been following your leg reaction for months now!

Can I have an autograph?

[quartz cave]

Can i also have one

[uncut citrus]

Wait no I meant « leg! » you say in chat sometimes

I was thinking about reaction and brain went

Today is truly magical

[grave snow]

oh
i got taken to the other server

I didn't know you can do that

[plush pendant]

@grave snow

[grave snow]

[quartz cave]

@grave snow i luv you

[grave snow]

[uncut citrus]

I

I don’t know how I feel about asking for Oblovle, but

@grave snow

[grave snow]

[uncut citrus]

...hello

...okay

So

About that autograph...

Could I get a nice « leg » on my leg?

[quartz cave]

Can i have a leg on the leg of leg of the leg of leg

[uncut citrus]

[sacred stratus]

I love eating legs

[onyx dawn]

[spring perch]

Any hk ss news?

[high forge]

There's never Silksong news

[dusty nimbus]

I love eating my foes

[uncut citrus]

And I love chaos

[dusty nimbus]

~~Chaos loves too ~~ You have stolen my identity prepare to die

[cedar trench]

Heyooo9o

[dusty nimbus]

Hi Anastas

[sinful flare]

ow ma gad

[brittle tangle]

I love stealing identities

[sinful flare]

gm gc ss disc

[cedar trench]

Holy ahit he fucking did it

Forget me not?????????????????

[sinful flare]

i did mother.!!!

ghost pepper carried me

[tired nacelle]

hey this isn't silksong

[sinful flare]

its the silksong dlc

[tired nacelle]

oh alright then

[sinful flare]

they made it into a dungeon crawler roguelite

[dusty nimbus]

What?

[cedar trench]

Holy shirt

[uncut citrus]

DSSSTA always get highlight because of course it’s gonna get a lot of replies and react since I ping 12 peoples to see

[cedar trench]

Highlight these n

[brittle tangle]

😇👕

[cedar trench]

True

[uncut citrus]

Ok slep Time for me

Uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Yes.
?

[kindred pewter]

I love the holy shirt

[cedar trench]

Goodnight momdnt?

[sinful flare]

highlight this ra

[wispy stream]

holy forking shirt

[brittle tangle]

😇 🍴 - 🔪 👕

[grave snow]

why would you eat a shirt

for some reason these emotes tells me this

[rotund sigil]

I really enjoyed playing HK on switch but presumably if I pick up ps5/xbsx for silksong, i'll get 4k 60fps?

[chrome wave]

Silksong is like a collective dream entity

There is no real physical proof of it existing and it infiltrates peoples minds and dreams with the promise of good stuff

It is a radiance of team cherry creation

[brittle garnet]

wdym here it is

[chrome wave]

Is that real?

[brittle garnet]

yeah

[chrome wave]

What is that

[subtle flint]

0 / 10 loaf

[thin sphinx]

omg 😱 silksong confirmed

[brittle garnet]

it's actually a weapon re-used from Generations Ultimate

[thin sphinx]

nOOOOOOOo

[chrome wave]

Generations ultimate?

[brittle garnet]

a monster hunter game that came out in 2018

[chrome wave]

Monster hunter?

[brittle garnet]

yes

this is a monster hunter weapon

[chrome wave]

Weapon?

It looks like an insect to me

[brittle garnet]

it's a bow

[chrome wave]

Does it shoot mantis shrimp?

Instead of arrows?

[brittle garnet]

it fires arrows

[chrome wave]

Arrows?

[brittle garnet]

it stopped being funny the second time

[chrome wave]

Is it not special in any Way?

[brittle garnet]

oh, sorry
Monster Hunter is a game where you hunt giant creatures and then make equipment from their skin and such

[thin sphinx]

that’s a funny silksong you got there

[chrome wave]

Do the arrows poison the monsters or explode into Spider eggsacks?

[brittle garnet]

this is a bow made from a spider monster

[chrome wave]

Does it function the same as a bow made of Wood but slightly better?

No special perks?

No unique bonuses?

[brittle garnet]

well, there's more to it

it's not a 'unique' bow in a sense you might think of

Monster Hunter has 14 weapon 'classes', bow being one of them

all weapons in the same class have the same moveset but they have some differing stats

but each weapon class has quite an in-depth moveset

and some unique mechanics

[chrome wave]

Ok So whats that bows unique mechanic?

[brittle garnet]

I'm actually not that familiar with it because it's from a game i only begun playing recently, and I use a different weapon class

[chrome wave]

Is monster hunter some sort of japanese mmo?

[brittle garnet]

mmmmm

not really

it is japanese, but it's not an mmo
it's an action rpg

it's hard to compare it to other games because it's just so monolithic

[chrome wave]

Do you explore around in run down crypts and crime ridden cities? Or haunted wheat fields?

What is the ratio of concrete materials to non concrete ones?

[brittle garnet]

but TL;DR is that you hunt monsters to make gear out of their materials, to get stronger and then hunt stronger monsters to make gear out of their materials, and that's the gameplay loop

[chrome wave]

There are no haunted sunny midday horror wheat fields of death?

[brittle garnet]

it's like, cavepunk

[chrome wave]

Ah ok

[brittle garnet]

so like primitive technology, with some more advanced machinery here and there

[chrome wave]

Are the monsters weird combinations of lizard dinosaura and other Animals? Or is it based on folklore from somewhere and stuff?

[brittle garnet]

it's... all over the place

[chrome wave]

Whats the most unusual one?

[brittle garnet]

they're mostly based on concepts, but their designs are inspired by real life animals

[chrome wave]

What kind of concepts?

Like uhhhhh an undead gambling addict?

[brittle garnet]

well, various things

[chrome wave]

Or the collective crimes of a Cave Village thing given form and will to make guilty ones repent?

[brittle garnet]

uhh that might be like, the in-game folklore associated with a monster, for example

but the monsters are just kinda animals that live in that universe

[chrome wave]

Ah So its just Godzilla monsters with no supernatural explanation

[brittle garnet]

well they're not godzilla sized

it's a fantasy world, so the monsters are just the natural animals in that world

they have various pseudoscientific explanations for their abilities

across all games there's like uhh... ~400 different monsters

[tawdry valley]

🤓

Monster hunter world is a game about killing and kidnapping monsters while wearing their skin in order to wear their skin

[brittle garnet]

maybe more like 300

[brittle garnet]

uhh that's a loaded question

[tawdry valley]

It’s great, go play it if you find the idea of hunting something terrifying and many times your size interesting

[subtle flint]

So its basically dauntless but probably better?

[brittle garnet]

it's the game that Dauntless tried to replicate

[subtle flint]

Dauntless got piss boring

[brittle garnet]

i know, it's because they kinda shifted their target audience since launch

[subtle flint]

i played it at launch, really liked it

[brittle garnet]

it's kind of a mindless hack and slash right now

[subtle flint]

took a break, came back and it was

[brittle garnet]

but you're hacking and slashing big creatures

[brittle garnet]

these are hardly the most unusual ones

[tawdry valley]

Like, take your pick man

[brittle garnet]

we also have JET DRAGON

(this is probably the most over-the-top monster of the entire series, tho)

[subtle flint]

please tell me the pseudoscientific explanation for a jet dragon

[young saffron]

Literally me

[brittle garnet]

so in the monster hunter world there is this element called "dragon element" which is some kind of weird energy the in-universe society is not advanced enough to understand, and this monster expels this energy from channels in its wings to propel itself

[subtle flint]

lol

[silver oak]

Monster Hunter? In my chat?

Unacceptable

[brittle garnet]

the monster itself was inspired by falcons and jet planes

the second most unusual monster in the series is a giant silk-producing mantis that built an even bigger mech suit from scavenged materials, and it operates it by puppeteering it with this silk

[silver oak]

Silk? Puppet? Mantis?

[brittle garnet]

yes

[silver oak]

Sounds like hollow knight to me

[subtle flint]

SILK SONGN!"HJN!GH!!!PIUGT!GHH!

[silver oak]

Awesome

[high hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-hungy-reginald-monster-house-me-when-im-hungry-gif-13345871

[brittle garnet]

it has a mech suit

[high hedge]

That’d make it extra crunchy

[sacred stratus]

oh yeah I remember hearing about this monster

[brittle garnet]

yeah the crunch when it flattens your body against the concrete would be extra audible

[high hedge]

A worthy challenger

[brittle garnet]

(it's the final boss btw)

[high hedge]

Oh wow

Interesting choice for a final boss

[brittle garnet]

yeah it is, usually final bosses are dragons, but this one was a bug

[high hedge]

I assumed Monster Hunter final bosses were more akin to giant dragons

[sinful flare]

i see a funny clock thing at top left what game is this

[high hedge]

Neat buggo

[brittle garnet]

Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate

[sinful flare]

holy shit

[brittle garnet]

the clock thing at the top is how much time you have to beat it

Monster Hunter be like:
Go kill god. You have 45 minutes

[sinful flare]

i mean hk speedrunners can kill a moth dream god in like 35 minutes i cant see why you cant kill god under 45 minutes

[sacred stratus]

speedrunners:

[heady iron]

monster hunter players when they hunt the monster

[vale dome]

Cool news
I won an emote competition along with many others in a tf2 server

[quartz cave]

Cool

[vale dome]

Omg hi Ismoil

[quartz cave]

Omg hi MisHu

[vale dome]

It's pronounced "Mishu" 🙄

[quartz cave]

Oh so so so so sos sosossososo sorry 😔

[vale dome]

It's okay

[subtle flint]

[lilac sapphire]

Omg hi help regs

[north vessel]

S-s-

[vale dome]

Kalimera Pascal

[wanton eagle]

surrounded

[vale dome]

OMG
JERMA???

[north vessel]

:00

[sinful flare]

jerma985

[silver oak]

Fuckin pokemon

https://youtu.be/xU3BiUMUkc4

[trail orchid]

Hello guys

Just joined

[silver oak]

Hello

Welcome to the server

[trail orchid]

I played the first game a while ago and the thing is... while I love the combat I'm not the biggest fan of more vague metroidvanias (level design wise) which is why I vastly preferred Ori

I've been wondering... is there a chance Silksong would streamline some of the more confusing aspects of the first game?

[silver oak]

Wdym vague level design?

[trail orchid]

Like needing to both mark every important thing on the map as well as remember what the hell that thing is

Or else returning to it to check and make sure

Sometimes being disappointed that you haven't unlocked the right thing yet

[silver oak]

Idk I think that’s a pretty subjective metric

[trail orchid]

Face palming in case you forgot to mark it

I like how Ori removes all this general headache

100% it without a guide is a treat

[silver oak]

I think HK is a really well executed metroidvania in part because of the lack of handholding

[trail orchid]

And like, in Hollow Knight the entire beehive area for example is almost impossible to find without a guide or by complete accident, no visual quo or anything

[silver oak]

The point is to find your own path

[lilac sapphire]

Mishu kalimera- well kalo mesimeri!

[trail orchid]

I feel like the lack of handholding works better in Souls games which have comparatively more linear design and not gigantic maps like here

[silver oak]

I liked ori as well, but that game (especially the first one) railroads you a lot more than HK to the point where some people wouldn’t call it a metroidvania

[trail orchid]

I mean people call Batman: Arkham Asylum a metroidvania, so...

[marsh ibex]

[sacred stratus]

Ori is great but honestly HK is just better imo'

[silver oak]

Doesn’t linear design by definition mean it is handholding in a sense?

[marsh ibex]

no

[silver oak]

Anyway, if you’re looking for an experience closer to Ori I don’t think you’ll find it in Silksong sorry

[trail orchid]

Yeah, but if you want to take that logic to its inevitable conclusion, even something like having the option to heal is handholding

[sacred stratus]

the definition of a metroidvania is not well defined so some people consider certain games metroidvanias while others don't

[marsh ibex]

eh not really in my opinion

[sacred stratus]

Dark Souls for example

Blasphemous

Ori

[marsh ibex]

A lot of the time I kinda just bummed around and eventually found the correct way

but when I did get new abilities

[sacred stratus]

so many games

[marsh ibex]

I usually remembered where

[lilac sapphire]

Tbh I think most people found the hive on their own

[marsh ibex]

like “oh I have dive”

[sacred stratus]

nah I found it online

[marsh ibex]

I can break things below me

Wow there was a purple place that had something below me

[lilac sapphire]

You are not most people then

[trail orchid]

In that case, what's the problem with the map being more friendly like in Ori? If it's not a problem for you guys then what's the harm of it being more accessible to others?

[marsh ibex]

I don’t know what you mean by accessible since I haven’t played ori

[sacred stratus]

I'm most people bcs everyone is my alt

[trail orchid]

I mean, just the fact that everyone always has the compass charm equipped should tell you that it should have been a default feature

[silver oak]

We’re not really in a position to change that tho

Yeah compass is a special case

[marsh ibex]

I mean compass I agree with

[sacred stratus]

I don't consider metroid dread a metroidvania

[silver oak]

Most people think it should have been free

[sacred stratus]

funny enough

[marsh ibex]

opinion invalid

[sacred stratus]

too linear

it's linear in disguise

[lilac sapphire]

For most hk fans it's just more fun to get lost and try to find your way

[trail orchid]

Which is why I'm asking if you guys think the devs are gonna make it more streamlined in this game

[marsh ibex]

so is the start of Hollow Knight frosty

[sacred stratus]

HK is a lot less linear

a lot lot less

[silver oak]

Which I responded to here

[trail orchid]

I'm all for getting lost but in a game that's as hard as this finding as many upgrades as possible is pretty important

[lilac sapphire]

I think it's gonna be a little bit less linear but still more akin to hk than ori

*less non-linear

[trail orchid]

I don't think I'm asking for something less linear, just something less confusing

Look at open world games, for example

[marsh ibex]

I think that compass will be integrated into the map

but other than that I don’t see many changed

[vivid belfry]

HK is famously one of the least confusing metroidvanias that doesn't just tell you where to go

[trail orchid]

Fallout New Vegas is probably the least linear game ever and look how non-confusing it is

[marsh ibex]

because it works pretty well right now

[vivid belfry]

Play super metroid and you will see how generous hollow knight is with progression paths

[marsh ibex]

you go and fight two bosses in crossroads, you get vspirit, you go and enter greenpath, explore and fight hornet, etc

[sacred stratus]

I think you need to restructure that sentence bro. it's hard to read

[lilac sapphire]

That's what I meant, sorry

My mind is all over the place

[marsh ibex]

it’s pretty not confusing at the start

And eventually you have outright goals to go towards which are marked on the map

[trail orchid]

I did, and I agree, but I think Ori for example went ever further and I would prefer Silksong to do the same

[sacred stratus]

true. that's one of the reasons I stopped playing halfway through

[marsh ibex]

I need ori examples

[vivid belfry]

Ori is barely a metroidvania

[marsh ibex]

because I haven’t played it and don’t plan on playing it

[celest thorn]

ori is really good

[trail orchid]

I'm talking more about collectable upgrades and side quests than the main goal

[sacred stratus]

Ori 1 or 2?

[vivid belfry]

It's linear and has map markers so it's functionally the same as a traditional platformer structure, there's no exploration element

[celest thorn]

both games are great

[vivid belfry]

Ori 1. Ori 2 is much better in this and other respects

[sacred stratus]

true

[trail orchid]

HK also has map markers, they're just manual

[marsh ibex]

Why did you not say this at the start

[trail orchid]

I'm mainly talking about Will of the Wisps here

[marsh ibex]

Now I look like a dunce

[trail orchid]

One of my favorite games ever made

[marsh ibex]

I blame grover for this

[vivid belfry]

Not comparable

[trail orchid]

Why not?

[tawdry valley]

Linear design means you have only one path, it doesn’t necessarily mean you have no ability to fail, no options, no risk, or no control

[vivid belfry]

Because Ori tells you where to go at every step of the way, and hollow knight does not

[lilac sapphire]

Yeah the ori games aren't really metroidvanias to many people, maybe it's just not your genre

[tawdry valley]

That was meant to be a message reply

[marsh ibex]

IE modern sonic levels

[trail orchid]

What do you guys think of Hyper Light Drifter? Is that a metroidvania?

[tawdry valley]

Ori is a 2d platform with metroidvania elements. You can’t exactly modify your route

[trail orchid]

What about the 2.5D Zelda games?

[vivid belfry]

It's not even a platformer

[tawdry valley]

ie you have one path

[brittle garnet]

no

[trail orchid]

Do you have to be a platformer to be a metroidvania???

[tribal merlin]

yes

[vivid belfry]

Yes

[trail orchid]

Besides, I thought Symphony of the Night was inspired by Zelda

[marsh ibex]

You can be inspired by zelda and also be a platformer

zelda isn’t only dungeon crawling and combat and puzzles

[vivid belfry]

You can't be part of a subgenre if you're not part of the same genre

[marsh ibex]

it’s also a vibe

[trail orchid]

I thought the most important part of this genre is having interconnected design and a map that you can explore for many secrets

[shy kiln]

May I please make a your mom joke? Please?? 🥺

[marsh ibex]

no

[trail orchid]

Where you tend to backtrack

[lilac sapphire]

I don't really agree with this, genres and subgenres can overlap

[shy kiln]

[shy kiln]

Hey Newton over metre square.

[vivid belfry]

A metroidvania is a (usually) nonlinear platformer with an interconnected map and progression based on movement upgrades

[trail orchid]

In HK, how is getting to the final boss non-linear? Are there different methods to doing so?

[tribal merlin]

both metroid and castlevania are 2d platformers. That's why dark souls isn't a metroidvania

[shy kiln]

Many.

[vivid belfry]

Literally yes

[lilac sapphire]

Literally every playthrough is different6

[trail orchid]

Because compared to something like an Obsidian RPG, I'd say not really

[coarse leaf]

This is the moment to link a random GMTK video

[shy kiln]

I mean you can’t really compare one game to another to see if there is more than one way to reach the final boss.

[brittle garnet]

there are many different permutations on in which order you can complete Hollow Knight

[trail orchid]

You have to collect or activate X and Y which are in fixed locations, no?

[coarse leaf]

Also, I'm not sure if "methods" is the right word, but there definitely are various paths

[tawdry valley]

You can enter CoT last out of every area

[vivid belfry]

that's because open world RPGs don't have progression

[trail orchid]

People were comparing Ori to HK while claiming Ori is not a metroidvania 😐

[brittle garnet]

yeah but the order and how you get to those locations is not the same every time

[tawdry valley]

Open world and webbed progression are different

[marsh ibex]

I mean, you came into here while comparing the games

I don’t think that’s a good comparison to make