sk-discussion

[marsh ibex]

Instead you guide the big boy lasers towards him

[ivory sluice]

You cant damage him, thats everything

[marsh ibex]

and that makes him vulnerable for a few hits

[opaque sigil]

because uumuu was so fun

[verbal trench]

honestly i really hope there’s boss fights like this in the game

i fucking love boss fights like that

[ivory sluice]

Play cuphead

[verbal trench]

use environment to stagger them, then you can deal damage with your needle while it’s defenseless

[marsh ibex]

Yeah clearly another boss who has a separate enemy with a fast firing rate compared to waiting for an npc or for uumuu to spawn oomas

[ivory sluice]

Sharpee just fucking pulls out a gun

[opaque sigil]

2018?

[runic adder]

I know this is a controversial opinion but I actually really like Uumuu

[coarse leaf]

Dreamy bluffs ahd...

[serene chasm]

God home uumuu is kinda interesting

[verbal trench]

also bigger boss arenas with unique ways of staggering the boss

[opaque sigil]

uumuu isn't a good boss in the way other HK bosses are good, it's more a platforming sequence than a fight

[burnt topaz]

like no eyes

[coarse leaf]

Amina!!! hii

[ivory sluice]

i HATE uumuu

[sonic belfry]

i agree

[coarse leaf]

Every SS boss fight just needs you to wait for Zote to make them vulnerable

[burnt topaz]

the pantheons make uumuu a little more interesting btu its still sorta boring

[runic adder]

I don’t think that means it isn’t a boss

[ivory sluice]

this game costs the exact same amount of money as i have on steam

[opaque sigil]

it is a boss, just plays differently

[velvet sentinel]

yea. Also jelly explosion hitbox suck

[subtle flint]

its a pretty decent game @ivory sluice

[runic adder]

Wait I misread that

[burnt topaz]

hello evan

[runic adder]

Well I don’t think that makes it a bad boss either

[ivory sluice]

uumuu is definetly one of the bosses of all time

[burnt topaz]

its a decent concept but in practice, it really should have more attacks

[tawny basalt]

Uumuu is a boss

[sonic belfry]

i'm rewatching twelve angrey men

[velvet sentinel]

guys

[tawny basalt]

Ahh twelve angry men

[velvet sentinel]

and gals

[tawny basalt]

I remember that

[verbal trench]

i don’t like uumuu at all but it’s definitely unique among the hollow knight bosses

[hoary bough]

Just one of the bosses of all time

[runic adder]

I think it’s really just the presence of Quirrel that made it fun for me, the feeling of taking down a boss alongside him felt great

[subtle flint]

have you seen eleven angery men?

[velvet sentinel]

and everyone. I'm gonna go shopping

bye

[tawny basalt]

For what?

[burnt topaz]

bye me some pie

[hoary bough]

Buy silksong

[subtle flint]

[serene chasm]

Ha e fu

[ivory sluice]

bye

[tawny basalt]

Goodbye

[ivory sluice]

buy m&ms

[tawny basalt]

[serene chasm]

Have fun

[velvet sentinel]

will be back in like 10 min smh

[burnt topaz]

stay safe

[subtle flint]

🦺

[ivory sluice]

i'm going insane, does any of you want anything?

[hoary bough]

Milk

[burnt topaz]

silksong

[runic adder]

Presentation is a big part of what makes a boss fun and I think Uumuu does a solid job with that

[burnt topaz]

something something megamind quote

[ivory sluice]

i drank 2 bottles of milk yesterday and 1 today 🙂

[hoary bough]

Bruh

[sonic belfry]

ah I hear you know this film?

[tawny basalt]

Yes

[sonic belfry]

nice

[verbal trench]

twelve angry men was a pretty good movie

[serene chasm]

I just wish uumuu wasn't completely rng based

[sonic belfry]

it was

[burnt topaz]

i wish uumuu didnt have like 2 attacks and thats it

[tawny basalt]

I wish uumuu didn’t end my pantheon 5 run

[hoary bough]

2 moves that are easy to dodge rng really doesn't matter unless you are speed running

[keen blaze]

I wish yall would stop having a skill issue.

Also bye chat

[serene chasm]

Most bosses have 2 attacks.

[runic adder]

Just get lucky better

[burnt topaz]

bye cookie

[subtle flint]

You're a Villain Alright, Just Not a Super one

[tawny basalt]

Cookie, I mean this in the nicest way possible, you are a walking skill issue

Also bye cookie, I won’t eat you

[olive bobcat]

Oh yeah? What's the difference?!

[subtle flint]

PRESENTATION

[ivory sluice]

recommend me a steam game under 2 dollars and 35 cents

[tawny basalt]

reeves is lurking

[subtle flint]

[uncut citrus]

Cookie, and I mean this not in the nicest way possible, you are a waking skissue.

[burnt topaz]

you are right now that i think about it, i guess uumuus are just boring in a fight that you already have to wait a lot for

[olive bobcat]

🌩️

[sonic belfry]

you think UumuU was tough for me? I died several times to GOD F*CKING TAMER

[ivory sluice]

skill solution

[tawny basalt]

God tamer is easy

[hoary bough]

Skissue

[sonic belfry]

i didn't know the moveset

[burnt topaz]

thats unfortunate

[verbal trench]

it took me 4 hours to beat broken vessel lol

[hoary bough]

3 things to worry about

A jumping ant

[subtle flint]

neither did i

[tawny basalt]

Also amina, you server boosted the server?

[hoary bough]

A rolling fatty and a vomiting fatty

[subtle flint]

i just jump and funny slash and won

[sonic belfry]

i didn't fight god tamer in the third trial

[burnt topaz]

uh this one yeah?

[sonic belfry]

i didn't have any experience

[tawny basalt]

Was it worth it?

[ivory sluice]

guess who just made 4 cents selling cards on steam

[hoary bough]

Yea but you can easily find out

[subtle flint]

mfw people say traitor lord is hard

[burnt topaz]

only because i wanted to get into the nitro channel again

[subtle flint]

[tawny basalt]

There is a nitro channel?

[subtle flint]

dont tell them smh

[tawny basalt]

What’s the point of it?

[hoary bough]

Just stand there and dash through his attacks

[sonic belfry]

now god tamer is my least favorite

[burnt topaz]

im not telling

[marsh ibex]

#wkroll-discussion

[serene chasm]

To laugh at us poor people

[ivory sluice]

traitor lord ls literallu jump pogo dash repeat

[tawny basalt]

God I have a server boost, I could get into it

[hoary bough]

Ranged attacks dont exist

[subtle flint]

chad

[sonic belfry]

had you stood there waiting for shade cloak to recharge?

[tawny basalt]

Do I do it

[subtle flint]

its the best channel in the entire server

[sonic belfry]

yes they do

[burnt topaz]

you are going to be disappointed
or overjoyed idk

[subtle flint]

no doubt about it

[coarse leaf]

im back chat

[tawny basalt]

Is it a emoji spamming channel?

[burnt topaz]

no inbetween

[hoary bough]

His dashes are too slow so you get your shade cloak in time

[tawny basalt]

It sounds like one

[sonic belfry]

traitor lord has orange boomerangs

[coarse leaf]

hi amina hi tonio

[ivory sluice]

why does cookie clicker cost money

[hoary bough]

If your far away from him

[tawny basalt]

Hello Evan

Hru?

[ivory sluice]

her*

[coarse leaf]

im ok hbu

[hoary bough]

True true

[tawny basalt]

Pretty good

[sonic belfry]

that means you have to near him 24 F*CKING 7

[burnt topaz]

traitor lords a guy

[hoary bough]

Which is easy

[tawny basalt]

I probably won’t boost, this server doesn’t need it

[ivory sluice]

are mantis lords female? im not sure now

[tawny basalt]

Yes and no

[sonic belfry]

they are female

[hoary bough]

Sisters of battle

[burnt topaz]

mantis lords yeah but traitor lords not

[coarse leaf]

the mantis lords are i think female but not the traitor lord? idk

[marsh ibex]

Yep

[tawny basalt]

There is one male and that is traitor lord

[subtle flint]

mantis lords female

[hoary bough]

Dang men

[sonic belfry]

this is true

[subtle flint]

are there any chad PoE players in this chat?

[olive bobcat]

PoE?

[hoary bough]

Poe?

[ivory sluice]

pou?

[subtle flint]

[tawny basalt]

Are there any chad eternal ordeal players here?

[hoary bough]

Rock pet?

[sonic belfry]

also my first attempt with tribe of battle the modded boss was..........................................

[burnt topaz]

i am a pou player

[olive bobcat]

Like Poe Dameron from the sequel trilogy? Yeah he's cool, a shame Oscar Isaac had such a bad role tho

[subtle flint]

ill take that as a no

[olive bobcat]

At least he made the best of what he had

[subtle flint]

Path of Exile

[serene chasm]

Pillars of eternity?

[hoary bough]

What does it stand forrr

[burnt topaz]

oh lol

[ivory sluice]

idk what PoE is but pou>>>>>

[subtle flint]

.

[hoary bough]

Oh

[serene chasm]

Oh in that case nope

[hoary bough]

What the heck is that

[subtle flint]

[hoary bough]

Sorry i dont do mods

[tawny basalt]

But any chad eternal ordeal fans?

[sonic belfry]

yes

[hoary bough]

All i do is radiant radiance and suffer

[subtle flint]

[sonic belfry]

it took me a long time just to mod the game

[ivory sluice]

holy shit rounds but i have no one to play wiht 😦

[hoary bough]

I will never try any radiance

[sonic belfry]

there are mods other than any rad

[burnt topaz]

do radiant gorb

[hoary bough]

Yea

[subtle flint]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/238960/Path_of_Exile/

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[tawny basalt]

Skill issue, just play both sides

Do radiant gorbius

[hoary bough]

Dont know what that is never seen it in my life

[ivory sluice]

has anyone here played the spiderheck demo?

[hoary bough]

Looks mid

[subtle flint]

kids these days

[sonic belfry]

also does anyone use the new or old mod loader for hollow knight? i use scarab

[serene chasm]

All I know of path is its giant skill tree

[subtle flint]

most people use scarab afaik

[burnt topaz]

i used the old one because i havent played in a while but scarab is probably the most up to date one

that one works for the lastest patch right?

[coarse leaf]

i can't play hollow knight B(

[subtle flint]

L

[serene chasm]

Why not

[subtle flint]

not worth to play either way

[coarse leaf]

it doesn't work

[sonic belfry]

why not?

[hoary bough]

How do you go to an earlier patch

[subtle flint]

make it work

[burnt topaz]

in beta

[coarse leaf]

by it doesn't work i mean it takes 2 minutes to go from room to room and i dont have that time

[burnt topaz]

oh geez

[coarse leaf]

and sometimes when i play hollow knight takes 30-60 minutes to open

[tawny basalt]

Bye guys

[serene chasm]

Get an ssd

[burnt topaz]

in properties

[subtle flint]

might just not be HDD problem

baba is you

[sonic belfry]

go to betas in steam (if you use steam) and find the one with alot of numbers not the ones listed here (Grimmtroupe,lifeblood,hiddendreams,godmaster.)

[coarse leaf]

whats that

[subtle flint]

solid state drive

[olive bobcat]

Sorry to disturb you but Celestecord reminded me that this exists

[subtle flint]

just like a hard drive but faster and overall better

[hoary bough]

Ok

[subtle flint]

its beautiful

[serene chasm]

What is that

[sonic belfry]

its pure perfection

[olive bobcat]

Ditto Morelull

[ivory sluice]

spelunky 1 is literally a dollar

[subtle flint]

i tries spelunky 2 and it was piss boring

and overall dogshit lmaoooo

[hoary bough]

Lmaooooo

[ivory sluice]

i will snap your spine

[subtle flint]

i do not see what people like with it at all

[ivory sluice]

Spelunky 2 is one of my favourite games of all time

[sonic belfry]

I was around when netrom games where still a thing

[subtle flint]

then you are wrong

[hoary bough]

Shaw

[tawny basalt]

[sonic belfry]

white palace 2.0

[ivory sluice]

every spelunky game is amazing

[subtle flint]

dosent look very white to me

[uncut citrus]

You mean
DSSSTA 20?

[sonic belfry]

it doesn't have to be white in order to cause emotional distress

all you need is saw blades and you have white palace 2.0

[subtle flint]

well one of the key features of white palace is that it is white, no?

[ivory sluice]

holy shit i played this at an age i definetly shouldnt be playing this

memories

[sleek egret]

[sonic belfry]

look the main thing about the white palace people REMEBER about the white palace was saw blades

[sonic belfry]

cap

[subtle flint]

logros

[hoary bough]

What color were those saw blades

[sonic belfry]

white

or steel

[hoary bough]

What color is the palace

[subtle flint]

what color was basically the entire place

[sonic belfry]

white

[tawny basalt]

Green

[coarse leaf]

Red

What if sawblades are a thing with every higher being

There's a red palace for red sawblades

And shadelord's hurrying to thr abyss at the end of ETV in order to create its own Black Palace

[spice plume]

This is why #hk-lore and #sk-discussion are separate channels

[woven fulcrum]

except in lore you can't make jokes

/j pls don't kill me

[serene chasm]

Lore is serious business

[coarse leaf]

You can joke in lore

There's just a small price

It's called ban and sent to the shadow realm

[south rock]

Worth

[deep wolf]

[south rock]

Anyway are the creatures in silksong void?

[woven fulcrum]

if you say something slightly innacurate to the HK food lore you're bullied for eternity /j

[deep wolf]

[south rock]

So nothing changes?

[deep wolf]

[ivory sluice]

Sad

[deep wolf]

[ivory sluice]

Cool aspid emoji 👍

[coarse leaf]

Wtf is HK food lore

[deep wolf]

[coarse leaf]

Oh wait isn't that just Leg Eater lore?

[subtle flint]

please ban

[wanton eagle]

Banned for life

[uncut citrus]

i think thats how bans works

[glacial hemlock]

from what we're shown so far, there isn't an indication that any of them are

[coarse leaf]

10/10 for accuracy
0/10 for amogus

[marsh ibex]

@deep wolf no copypastas or ascii art thanks

[ivory sluice]

which of these is best for plantera

i have like 10 swords and idk which to use

[uncut citrus]

easy

dont use swords for panterra

[radiant wraith]

Use your fists

[coarse leaf]

why is the ascii person invalid-user

discord caching decided to pfft them the moment they left?

[uncut citrus]

its illegal to leave hk-cord

dont you know?

[olive bobcat]

Then I'm a criminal

[uncut citrus]

me too

tho i never left this server
anywys

also good morning i think?
you were going to sleep, tho i feel like that wasnt that long ago...
did you slep enough?

[olive bobcat]

5 hours

[uncut citrus]

[sinful flare]

this trash server i will become back every second i sank in this server

[serene chasm]

I tried leaving.

But you bastards keep pulling me back

[full rune]

and now look what youre doing

its consumed you

[serene chasm]

I know. Stuck here forever now

[chilly nexus]

??sspsa

sspsa?

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[chilly nexus]

phew

[velvet sentinel]

hi chat

[serene chasm]

Hey quin. How was shopping

[velvet sentinel]

average

got food

[serene chasm]

Gwhat kind

[sinful flare]

sspsa?????????????????????????????

[velvet sentinel]

the good one

[sinful flare]

what kind

[velvet sentinel]

chips salt sticks and crackers

[serene chasm]

We need to know everything

[sinful flare]

ayo those are the good ones

[serene chasm]

Pretzel sticks?

[velvet sentinel]

probably

[silent meteor]

This is a comment I made over a year and a half ago.
Just for the context: we're discussing FNF.

[uncut citrus]

HEY I KNOW THAT GUY

Oh its you

[silent meteor]

Wait what

What do you mean 😂

[velvet sentinel]

is fall guys worth downloading?

[cerulean sable]

silksong wil have shock cavalry

only if you have friends

otherwise boring solo IMO

[velvet sentinel]

rip i guess

[olive bobcat]

It's free but no

[sage glade]

fun for a good 30 mins

[silent meteor]

I already bought it and it's 2nd game I bought. I stopped playing it because of disconnection

[sinful flare]

silksong will not have bitches

[silent meteor]

I got the full Doomslayer outfit btw.

[cerulean sable]

also yeah its like one of those "haha this is fun" for like the 1st hour then it becomes one of those repetitive games

once you know the map gimmicks

[uncut citrus]

didnt recognise you so i was like "ey thats Blue347, i know that guy" but then i realised it was you

[sinful flare]

blue347 my man

[silent meteor]

Oh good, just in time.

[velvet sentinel]

blue are you a regular?

[sage glade]

✅ blue suit
✅ 347 people in the audience
yep checks out

[sinful flare]

||dw i dont know who blue is either||

[uncut citrus]

i would say so
dont see em everyday, but see em from a while

[chilly nexus]

Silksong will have wifi functionality and be keeping track of its concurrent players' actions, Live.

This will only be relevant for Silksong's "Ancient Gong" mechanic:
At the top of the Belfry, a giant, near-fossilized bell oscillates back and forth, incredibly slowly, falling low enough to be hit by the player (after some clever manoeuvrability) for one day each year. Due to the bell's weight, nothing happens when you hit it. Instead, it's required that at least 1,000,000 concurrent players hit the bell in unison on that day to cause a reverberation strong enough to collapse the tower, initiating a sequence of events leading to the game's true ending and 7 additional secret bossfights, the third-last of which is Sherma-Prime's hidden fourth phase.

[marsh ibex]

Cool

[cerulean sable]

yes i would love to be invaded with "Silken Phantom xXxP4NTHEON_GODxXx" and one shots me with their Silk Slash

[coarse leaf]

I certainly hope not. That would be creepy as hell.

[vivid belfry]

Silksong will have The Lick

[cerulean sable]

I do not understand this reference

[coarse leaf]

Also there's no way that's true due to a GOG release and the game being an entirely offline single player experience.

[chilly nexus]

Shilk Shlash

[coarse leaf]

You won't even need a launcher for it.

[vivid belfry]

https://youtu.be/krDxhnaKD7Q

[marsh ibex]

Why are you taking a joke statement seriously

[cerulean sable]

i fucking hate music

[olive bobcat]

5CG done

Wasn't that bad actually, basically just 2 rooms

[chilly nexus]

ShilI Shliucking Shliate Shliusic

[opaque sigil]

I don't know celeste but that sounds impressive

[gilded adder]

Silksong will have body part dismemberment as part of its core gameplay loop

[coarse leaf]

?

How can you tell?

The cadence and tone of speech isn't really present in writing, so you have to take almost everything seriously that's written unless someone makes it obvious it's supposed to be a joke.

[olive bobcat]

Oh sick that's all the C-sides golden aside from chapter 8

[sage glade]

absurdity should be a clue

[coarse leaf]

Egh....It's early. I didn't read the whole thing. Just the bit about live tracking player actions at the start.

[marsh ibex]

nice job

you took the bait

[uncut citrus]

play celeste

[wanton eagle]

right

[opaque sigil]

I don't wanna buy it though

[chilly nexus]

I fixed my nickname for the good of society

[cerulean sable]

i hate Celeste

[wanton eagle]

okay fake sounds good

[cerulean sable]

not enough combat

[marsh ibex]

Celeste is a bad game yes

[silent meteor]

What are you seeing?

[wanton eagle]

why the game doesn't need combat

[uncut citrus]

Its probably worth it

[chilly nexus]

I just got Hades last week, it's pretty great

[opaque sigil]

(they're joking)

[uncut citrus]

See, Tammo, Joker doesnt like it, which means its good

[opaque sigil]

yeah probably but I'm kinda saving my money for other games

[wanton eagle]

Test your platforming skill, then try silksong platforms

You will see

oh wait...

[cerulean sable]

Celeste would be better

if t heres like

towers you can climb taht reveals the map that you have to eliminate bandit camps and shit

[wanton eagle]

so like you just want a map

[cerulean sable]

and probably add a premium currency floating in your face like i dunno, Celeste Points?

[coarse leaf]

I still love platformers, but mostly older ones.

I want a new Donkey Kong Country more than I feel the want to play Celeste.

[silent meteor]

Me waiting for topics I'm more interested in:

[chilly nexus]

and you should optionally be able to just start from chapter 9

[wanton eagle]

Is celeste even consider metriodvania?

[gilded adder]

Or Yetis spawn on the map when climbing the mountain and they're like mini-boss fights

[uncut citrus]

Its a platformer

[wanton eagle]

I agree I agree I agree

[cerulean sable]

yeah and mandatory levelling system, every fucking game needs one

[uncut citrus]

its not a mertroidvania at all
why would it be considered this way-

[wanton eagle]

my fav game is dkc2, it's old game rpg

[silent meteor]

2d platformer

[coarse leaf]

I would literally pay rare hundreds of dollars for a remaster of DKC2 on PC.

$200 on the spot.

[wanton eagle]

Idk but some metriodvania nowdays want to do platforming

[marsh ibex]

Or if to heal from attacks, you had to forage for plants and shit for the mandatory cooking subsystem

[digital glen]

i should re play the DKC trilogy

[silent meteor]

NO

[wanton eagle]

I'm with you

[cerulean sable]

yes yes i fucking love stupidly tack crafting systems that adds nothing to the game

[silent meteor]

What I want on Metroidvania games are good combat mechanics.

[opaque sigil]

celeste is a linear platformer, that some metroidvanias have platforming elements doesn't mean all platformers are metroidvanias

[cerulean sable]

venn diagram

mroe like

[coarse leaf]

This.

I like HK, and almost certainly will like Silksong, DESPITE it's forced exploration, not becaused of it.

[marsh ibex]

[opaque sigil]

well most metroidvanias at least have some element of platforming

[marsh ibex]

combat in most metroidvanias is boring

[wanton eagle]

There's some cool game coming similar to celeste and it's metroidvania

[coarse leaf]

I don't hate exploring in games in general, but when you're game is a labyrinthian 2D maze, that's a negative. And really the only negative I have for HK, and expect to have for Silksong.

[marsh ibex]

*your

[coarse leaf]

I stand firm in that people can like the same game for different reasons.

[opaque sigil]

yeah kinda

[marsh ibex]

I mean, I take super metroid as a peak metroidvania

[opaque sigil]

HK combat is very simplistic, and the combat alone wouldn't really carry it

[coarse leaf]

I liked HK because of it's combat system, and it's gorgeous map design. But not the exploration.

[silent meteor]

I know

[uncut citrus]

i dont think anyone disagrees with you...

[marsh ibex]

Combat there is spamming super missiles and charge shots

[onyx dawn]

Certified good music
https://youtu.be/6Cs54V-F0c8

[silent meteor]

Something mixed with both platforming and Combat

[marsh ibex]

combat in HK is waiting for an opening

hitting it a few times

[opaque sigil]

SS does seem to expand on the combat a bit

[marsh ibex]

Waiting more

[olive bobcat]

https://youtu.be/0ux2MzgGQn8

[marsh ibex]

imo that’s boring combat

[opaque sigil]

more ranged attacks and maneuvering attacks so you don't need to wait for as significant openings

[coarse leaf]

You would be shocked at the amount of people who immediately jump to "this game isn't for you" if you dislike certain aspects of a game more than others, despite overall very much enjoying it. Every single person who says that phrase disagrees with the aforementioned sentiment.

[marsh ibex]

And a change to the stagger system

[silent meteor]

https://youtu.be/J3BUFM5n9KE

[opaque sigil]

HK stagger system is of pretty limited significance to the gameplay overall but yeah its purpose is kinda gone with the binding instead of focusing

[silent meteor]

The Xylophone at the start hits fucking HARD

[marsh ibex]

yo can y’all stop posting random songs

[wanton eagle]

what about this

[marsh ibex]

there’s actual ss discussion going on and you’re detracting from it

[wanton eagle]

https://imgur.com/SqiQeHb

[opaque sigil]

HK staggers existed to let you heal, SS staggers exist for a break and free attacks

[onyx dawn]

Pretty cool

[wanton eagle]

Rune Fencer

[analog garden]

I think if they removed the stagger mechanic in SS people would get upset

[digital glen]

the musics are the background theme of the discussion

[sage glade]

casually riding the ceiling

[analog garden]

especially more casual players, they need a break during a fight

[marsh ibex]

@coarse leaf don’t be weird

[dark wagon]

sick game but god damn the protag looks like the wendys logo

[sinful flare]

naww they dont

[coarse leaf]

Oh yeah, somehow, Shovel Knight is considered a metroidvania

[onyx dawn]

True
I don't think there is a single bad track in the entirety of cuphead

[wanton eagle]

It have maps bosses platforms

[silent meteor]

Something that makes the beauty art of metroidvania rooms are the parallax.

[coarse leaf]

Wait what? I was being weird?

[opaque sigil]

I'm not advocating for its deletion, I'm saying the specific motivation for it to work the way it did is gone

[analog garden]

omg Im crying

[coarse leaf]

How and why? Even I don't know that

[marsh ibex]

Yes

[silent meteor]

It feels really real.

[analog garden]

oh I agree

[coarse leaf]

.....where? and how?

[digital glen]

Ninja Gaiden gotta be my fav metroidvania

[silent meteor]

Nah there's like a level by level.

[coarse leaf]

And what happened to my last message?

[shell yacht]

HK stagger was minimal but important to the fights

[marsh ibex]

The first half of the message I deleted

Gross, unnecessary, and breaks server rules

[coarse leaf]

Alright well I don't get it, I didn't write anything weird.

[brittle garnet]

Stagger in Silksong seems to have a different purpose than in Hollow Knight (or maybe, an additional purpose)
In Hollow Knight the stagger was so you can focus safely since one hit to the boss would end it, while in Silksong, hitting a boss doesn't end a stagger, so it also acts as an opening for damage

[opaque sigil]

because it gave a chance to heal, in SS they don't need to go out of the way to do that

[silent meteor]

Metroidvania maps dont have levels tho.

[olive bobcat]

The Zero Suit Samus stuff I assume

[coarse leaf]

The entire message was just about not being into Metroid much - or Castlevania anymore, and just not being big on the HK games parent Genre even as I liked the first game in and of itself.

[marsh ibex]

sure buddy

[opaque sigil]

ofc in SS staggers still work as healing windows but you don't need much space to do that

[sage glade]

have you played 'the messenger'?

[digital glen]

yes

[shell yacht]

or setup your stronger attack
nailspam then spell
now we have so many options losing stagger would be a big missed opportunity imo

[coarse leaf]

How was that weird? It would be weirder not too.

The Messenger is great, though, it's metroidvania part is kinda disappointing

[analog garden]

as long as they dont reduce the damage you do when they are staggered

[marsh ibex]

dude

I just told you to not

[shell yacht]

take your L to modmail or get muted

[opaque sigil]

messenger is clearly not built to be a metroidvania on a room by room basis and so retreading ground is agonizing

[brittle garnet]

I mean it'd be weird if they removed Staggers, since they already showed it off and talked about it even

[shell yacht]

messenger?

[sage glade]

yeah true, having only one big exploration upgrade near the very end...

[coarse leaf]

True

[digital glen]

i think everyone agrees that the metroidvania part of the messenger is pretty meh

[onyx dawn]

Also this ok I'll leave chat now
https://youtu.be/T9Biu5I_BFM

[coarse leaf]

Sorry, I don't want to get muted. I just genuinely didn't understand what silk was saying at first with the "don't be weird' stuff. I won't bring it up again.

[silent meteor]

What's messenger?

[opaque sigil]

Messenger is a linear platformer in design that just gets nonlinear without the rooms actually reflecting that

imagine if every room in HK was a platforming challenge that you couldn't skip on subsequent travels

[shell yacht]

so setup like mario worlds

[pearl arch]

yo how dangerous is the current strain

[coarse leaf]

Egh....Idk. HK was fine for platforming but that wasn't it's obvious main purpose.

[shell yacht]

overworlds* ?

[coarse leaf]

I'm hoping Silksong sticks to what the series does well in combat for the most part.

This time with far less random exploration.

[marsh ibex]

HK’s platforming was alright

[opaque sigil]

it's a contiguous world like a metroidvania, the rooms are just not built to facilitate easy travel

[dark wagon]

silksong looks like it's gonna be more vania than metroid as opposed to hk

[marsh ibex]

I wish they didn’t do so much crap im white palace

[solemn tartan]

ain’t that what a metroidvania is about tho

[olive bobcat]

Random exploration is kinda a major part of Hollow Knight, so it's probably going to carry over into SIlksong

[silent meteor]

Oh ok

[solemn tartan]

Non linearity is a defining quality

[olive bobcat]

They want the player to get lost in HK, so idk why they'd change their mind suddenly

[solemn tartan]

dang that look good

[silent meteor]

How about a metroid-vania game but the map is generated.

[opaque sigil]

that exists and it's not great

[coarse leaf]

That exists

[gilded adder]

That's just Dead Cells

[pearl arch]

dead cells sorta

[coarse leaf]

I don't remember the name tho, uhhh

[opaque sigil]

it's called chasm iirc

[sage glade]

sundered?

[dark wagon]

metroidvania roguelike?!

[gilded adder]

Oh, right, I heard about that one. Pixel art looks nice.

[opaque sigil]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/312200/Chasm/

Steam

Chasm

Welcome to Chasm, an action-adventure game in which you play a new recruit undertaking your first mission for the Guildean Kingdom. Thrilled to prove your worth as a knight, you track strange rumors that a mine vital to the Kingdom has been shut down. But what you discover in the mining town is worse than you imagined: The townspeople have disap...

Price

$5.99

Recommendations

1004

Metacritic

72

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[solemn tartan]

pixel art neat

[coarse leaf]

It wasn't Dead Cells, it was, uhh SteamWorld Dig!

[marsh ibex]

Pixel art is mid

3D models better

[coarse leaf]

Honestly I'll probably die on the hill of exploration being more fun in open world 3D games than it is in 2D ones.

I love the map of HK in and of itself - mostly because of how beautiful it is, but at the same time I disliked moving through it in alot of ways for a variety of reasons, mostly because you just constantly get lost when all you really want is the next boss.

Combat is where 90% of the fun of HK was for me.

And I expect the same to be true for Silksong.

[analog garden]

tbh its great to have optional hard platforming sections.

[opaque sigil]

good pixel art is good, bad pixel art is bad, everything in between is in between

[digital glen]

there's some platform sections that i dont like, usually the ones that use crystal dash, but i really like the white palace and PoP, part of me wishes that there were more, but maybe it's because there's only a few of them that i like them

[marsh ibex]

WP isn’t optional if you want to finish the game

[opaque sigil]

WP is at least not that hard

[coarse leaf]

Ig that's the only one that was an actual good metroidvania with random worlds and stuff, but still, the controls were very weird

[analog garden]

I mean it is tho, all endings after the first are optional

[opaque sigil]

WP is a pain in the ass don't get me wrong but it's not really obstructively difficult

[coarse leaf]

So I very much expect to like Silksong despite the exploration, not because of it.

Making a metroidvania without mazes is kinda difficult y'know

Especially in 2D

[silent meteor]

"I hated how the Metroidvania sub-genre was getting fucked by a bunch of indie studios."

[brittle garnet]

ngl I think this is just matter of preference, i liked the exploration a lot

[coarse leaf]

Hmmhmmm.....I just like to explore where I can see for miles and miles at a time, not when the entire game screen is one map segment. That's the difference I think.

[digital glen]

i have to praise HK's exploration a lot, even though the game is made for you to get lost, i never felt like i didnt had anymore places to go and was stuck, there was always some place that i would remember to back with something new to

[coarse leaf]

Exploration is fine in 3D open world games, not so much in 2D ones.

But that's just my preference.

HK is a very good game.

I expect great things from Silksong too.

In fact if I had to carry over one element from combat I liked in HK that was incredibly underrated to Silksong it would be parrying.

Exploration in Super Mario 64 tho

[solemn tartan]

I only like 2D games where you can’t explore anything at all (super mario run)

[coarse leaf]

I want Hornet to be able to Parry in Silksong - not her counter, which may or may not be a move in Silksong, but a Knight style combat parry.

[digital glen]

exploration in crash twinsanity tho

[coarse leaf]

Exploration in Crash Bash

[distant crypt]

Heyo

[coarse leaf]

The action and sound was so gratifying every single time.

[digital glen]

hey aiden

[dusty nimbus]

Exploration in terraria tho

[digital glen]

ok crash bash kinda sucks

[distant crypt]

So

[coarse leaf]

Kinda?

[dusty nimbus]

No silksong

[brittle garnet]

You also have to understand what exploration really is. It's a feeling, and the feeling of exploration is what you get when you sate your curiosity. Not only do you get it from just going through a map and physical location, it can be expanded to other stuff too. And imo the placement of assets and context clues really ramps up the exploration in HK.

[digital glen]

you cant say crash bash sucks completely, at least it's better than MP9

[distant crypt]

I need to buy 3 paintings,from diferent games maybe

[brittle garnet]

ye that's a thing

[opaque sigil]

mario party games are less games and more interactive cutscenes

[distant crypt]

Which ones do you guys recommend

[coarse leaf]

I would rather play 100 hours of Mario Party 9 than playing 1 hour of Crash Bash

[silent meteor]

I wanted something else to talk about like I am so disappointed that the 3rd Jurassic World movie still doesn't learn from it's mistakes.

[coarse leaf]

Which sounds like a nightmare tbh

[digital glen]

just imagining this, i feel so, so, so sad for you

[coarse leaf]

Perukas, would you play 100 hours of Crash Bash?

[digital glen]

no

[coarse leaf]

Like, the whole game has literally just 4/5 minigames

[sage glade]

crash bash mash lash stash gnash

[digital glen]

i would prefer 1 hour of MP9 because im not a idiot

[coarse leaf]

Wooo.

Idk if I'm the only one, but I've sometimes spent hours playing HK doing nothing but going mob to mob and fighting them very slowly, for 15 minutes or more, practicing all of their attacks until I could parry all of them 100% of the time. For almost all the mobs and bosses in the game. The sound is so GOOD and it makes your attacks feel so heavy that I've sometimes (after practice ofc) done combat in such a way that all damage is dealt from damage during a parried attack where possible.

I want my baby hornet to be capable of parrying too, in the same aggressive way - not the counter.

[marsh ibex]

We already know that’s still in the game

[coarse leaf]

Well, I don't.

I've been following the game for a few years now like rest of us, but I stopped actually reading any info dumps since the now super old info we got on a few of the games bosses I wanna say going on 2 years ago.

[silent meteor]

Well nevermind I take it back.

[coarse leaf]

I've been more or less watching for a release date and just kind of hovering in the server for most of Silksongs announcement time.

Not much more.

I find it helps the time pass quicker too - when you aren't actively looking forward to something that is.

Taking up other hobbies helps the days turn into months and years all that much faster.

[digital glen]

i dont think so

[fair granite]

If you're mostly playing for combat wouldn't a roguelike suit that more?

[sage glade]

rather suspicious looking gaps in the text

[coarse leaf]

No, I hate roguelikes and don't like perma death mechanics.

[coarse leaf]

It's actually funny how the "28 different mini-games" are actually the 4 same mini-games but with different maps

[fair granite]

You could start with roguelites then, they're more forgiving on the permadeath and usually have upgrades you can use on all your runs

[coarse leaf]

HK's combat was just really good.

[velvet sentinel]

buy dead cells

[serene chasm]

You must hate life then

[digital glen]

that's actually pretty funny

[coarse leaf]

"You never get out of life alive" was my step-dads motto for all his life. It's pretty much mine too.

[fair granite]

Hades also nice

[coarse leaf]

Egh.....maybe someday.

For now my slate of games is full this year.

[digital glen]

Loop Hero

[coarse leaf]

I'm just not big on perma death modes in video games.

And that's all most roguelikes seem to be as it's a cornerstone of the genre.

[gilded adder]

I remember when Loop Hero was all the rage, looked cool.

[coarse leaf]

So I determined ages ago that genre wasn't for me.

[fair granite]

If youre playing hk mostly for combat then you're kinda losing a lot of the joy in it imo

[serene chasm]

Most rogues are short so dying doest suck.

[gilded adder]

Traditional roguelikes usually have a non permadeath mode though so that could be something to try.

[velvet sentinel]

dead cells has continue mode

[coarse leaf]

Idk mate. Most runs for me boiled down to "do everything and go to Godhome ASAP - then spend 150 hours there fighting Radiant Mode bosses in the statue room", and once I got to Godhome I basically never left ever.

[coarse leaf]

Dead Cells with it's 30 min sessions

Combat to me always seemed like 9/10ths the point of HK by the end.

[coarse leaf]

Oh, really? Damn, if I knew about that

[velvet sentinel]

is that long or short for a roguelite?

[coarse leaf]

Fairly long

I actually really hope there's a Godhome -esque area in Silksong too for boss refights.

[fair granite]

Yeah, but it's also metroidvania pretty centered around exploration and backtracking, unlocking new areas you couldn't before, stuf like that

[haughty brook]

Honestly, the best in depth combat systems are in hack n slash like Devil May Cry or Bayonetta. HK has good comabt for a metroidvania but in comparison its simplistic but good for its own game.

[gilded adder]

Yea, but what matters is the first run of the game where you're blind and have to explore and find things on your own. In that case, exploration becomes a big part of the game.

[serene chasm]

My two hour drizzle ror2 runs say otherwise

[coarse leaf]

If you have any recommendations I'll give them a shot if you wanna shoot me a few.

[velvet sentinel]

dead cells has a mode where you restart at the start of a level and not the entire game

[fair granite]

If that was the point why would godhome be an added dlc and not in the main game originally?

[coarse leaf]

Spelunky 2 with it's 10 hours session bcz of a secret ending

[gilded adder]

I'm still new to the traditional roguelike genre but Tales of Maj'Eyal and Caves of Qud both have non perma death modes.

[coarse leaf]

Actually, it isn't that long, it's 4 hour long-

[uneven orchid]

Do you play on Steam?

[gilded adder]

Still need to get Caves of Qud so badly but I have no mone

[serene chasm]

I do

[coarse leaf]

Imagine a Metroidvania with hack n slash combat tho

[serene chasm]

I imagine it flopping badly

[haughty jewel]

[gilded adder]

Isn't that Nine Sols?

[coarse leaf]

Sweet, saved them. I'll give em' a look sometime in the next few weeks.

[uneven orchid]

Nice, didn't know you played tbf. If you ever wanna do a couple runs let me know!

[coarse leaf]

Technically, yes

[coarse leaf]

shrug idk. But even before Godhome I got the most enjoyment out of it when I was fighting something. HK had a plethora is mob types and bosses. I hope SS has the same.

I just want enemies to kill.

[serene chasm]

Nope. 1 enemy in SS

[coarse leaf]

Then play Cuphead

[dusty nimbus]

Ass Jim the immortal

[coarse leaf]

Or even Doom

[serene chasm]

The world and exploring is what I'm excited for in SS.

[dusty nimbus]

I'm excited to explore to find Carmelita

[gilded adder]

[dusty nimbus]

Tbh I really like the design of Carmellita

[serene chasm]

Everybody does

I'm going to be really sad if we just kill her

[dusty nimbus]

I'm not that excited to fight the croissant head-shaped one

[coarse leaf]

Okay, let me ask:

• What's your favorite character design-wise?

[dusty nimbus]

Me too, I hope for a Mantis Lords type battle

[serene chasm]

In SS? Carmitta and shakra

[dusty nimbus]

Camellita

[coarse leaf]

I meant in general, but sure

[serene chasm]

Bernard?

[dusty nimbus]

I'm excited for the ants in general

[serene chasm]

Oh ok

[dusty nimbus]

Another fight I'm excited for is Hornet vs the ant Gundam

[serene chasm]

Yeah. I keep forgetting about that boss

[dusty nimbus]

Changing boss arena while fighting

[serene chasm]

Giant robot boss in the first trailer

[dusty nimbus]

I don't remember anyone who destroys the enviroment except adding hindrances in the environment being in HK

Boss wise

Maybe Radiance tbh

But it happens in intersections not while being in danger

[tawny basalt]

Radiance is a scam

[serene chasm]

The arenas were pretty static in hk

[south rock]

I love 🥔

[opaque sigil]

Rad will put spikes up

[dusty nimbus]

You love Chroma?

[south rock]

Chroma?

[dusty nimbus]

Chroma (potato)

[south rock]

Yes

[distant crypt]

Which game or series should I buy a painting of?

[opaque sigil]

soul master does destroy the arena but it doesn't really make a difference

[dusty nimbus]

Silksong

[marsh ibex]

just putting this here

For future referenxe

[serene chasm]

Thanks jojer

[dusty nimbus]

He doesn't destroy it while the fight is going on

[velvet sentinel]

dead cells

[distant crypt]

I got a hk and celeste one,I need a third

[opaque sigil]

does it between stages

[distant crypt]

Wtf was that ping

[gilded adder]

How about you midigate this ratio?

[gilded adder]

Wrong reply my bad

[coarse leaf]

hi chat!!!!!!!!!!

[distant crypt]

No worries lol

[velvet sentinel]

hi evan

[dusty nimbus]

Terraria

[coarse leaf]

CELESEEEEEEEEEEEE

[velvet sentinel]

i have a question

[serene chasm]

Hey evan

[dusty nimbus]

Hi Evan

[coarse leaf]

Crap.

[distant crypt]

Good one

[coarse leaf]

That's some bad news for SS I guess.

hi chaos hi quin hi curly

[marsh ibex]

godhome was basically just boss rushes

[serene chasm]

God home bad anyways

[coarse leaf]

37:2

that ratio :)

Ugh...some kind of boss rush area would be nice though.

[marsh ibex]

Refights could be done separately, but boss rushes were kinda lazy padding imo

[opaque sigil]

hk boss rushes were ok, locking unique bosses and endings behind poh was just silly

[coarse leaf]

Either or as I long as I get to fight them again without needing a new save file really.

[coarse leaf]

Like as a as dlc? I liked godhome but if they think that would make it blatant reuse of an already not so exciting concept its okay. Just means we'll get better stuff

[digital glen]

hi evan

[marsh ibex]

“Yeah let’s introduce 3 new bosses there and also lock an ending behind a boss rush with literally every boss in the game”

mf said not to hope for a godhome equivalent

[serene chasm]

They really should have updated steelsoul with the updated bosses from poh

[opaque sigil]

gsm does at least let you access most of the poh bosses without making you slog through it

[marsh ibex]

that doesn’t mean a godhome equiv will be in the base game

[coarse leaf]

hi perukas

[velvet sentinel]

how do this room?

[marsh ibex]

Said mode you only get access to after doing three pantheons

So

[opaque sigil]

those three pantheons are not nearly as painful as PoH tbf

[serene chasm]

Alt f4

[coarse leaf]

Make brain worke

[opaque sigil]

and unlocking gsm earlier would have issues with potentially allowing access to bosses before somebody encounters them in the main game

[coarse leaf]

dash to the first thing, quickly jump up, dash propel yourself from the 3rd and then go all the way over to the 4th, where u fling urself to victory

I'd still like a boss rush in the game but oh well

[blissful oriole]

You are not

[velvet sentinel]

ah ok thanks

[blissful oriole]

Womb basically acts as a flying nail hit

Except for Uumuu, that acts differently

[opaque sigil]

refights are kinda just a qol feature

[distant crypt]

Do you know the Game journey?

[dusty nimbus]

Not a fan having those connected to steam achievements

[opaque sigil]

steam achievements overall are meh

[dusty nimbus]

Wot?

[trim estuary]

You made me lose the game

[coarse leaf]

I don't think a games real ending should be locked behind a boss rush mode or anything - but having it be an option for fun would be nice.

[serene chasm]

I just don't want 90% of the game to be a boss mode

[opaque sigil]

hog would be fine

[distant crypt]

What

[trim estuary]

Look up “the game” on Wikipedia

[digital glen]

you have to use a dash into the third one on the right and get the momentum to go to the left one

[serene chasm]

@trim estuary

[opaque sigil]

journey is a neat experience

[trim estuary]

Every 2 weeks

[fiery coral]

Apotheosis

[haughty brook]

The ending in Godhome is not the "real" ending of HK. TC themselves said it. Embrace the Void is just an extra reward for those that compelted the Pantheons.

[distant crypt]

I still don't know that you mean

[serene chasm]

Hey Unique

[stark prism]

is that the one where you go from a random article to an article about uhhhhhhhhhhhhh using only embedded hyperlinks on the wikipedias?

[opaque sigil]

etv is also just narratively nonsense

[marsh ibex]

Source?

[distant crypt]

I lm thinking about buying a painting of it

[dusty nimbus]

Greek word in English go brrrrrr

[marsh ibex]

Ohhh

[fiery coral]

🦝

[marsh ibex]

My bad I misread yav

[velvet sentinel]

how are u(2x)nique

[marsh ibex]

I thought you said godhome wasn’t an ending

[subtle flint]

[marsh ibex]

Yeah there aren’t any canon or real endings

All of em are canon

[shell yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[fiery coral]

I'm doing good Playing Untitled Goose Game

[dusty nimbus]

:Honk:

[coarse leaf]

I do have to question how that works since some are contradictory to others.

[shell yacht]

dying to a tiktik, canon ending

[subtle flint]

[fiery coral]

honk

honk honk

[marsh ibex]

you don’t acknowledge any of the endings and silksong can follow after any of them

[opaque sigil]

It’s a very aesthetically pleasing game

[marsh ibex]

That’s how you address it

By not addressing it

[dusty nimbus]

Honk honk (peace was never an option)

[digital glen]

kinda like this @velvet sentinel

[serene chasm]

Oh no. Ending discussion

[shell yacht]

none of them contradict anything, and the most "problematic" ending leads to silksong the easiest imo

[velvet sentinel]

ye i did it

[coarse leaf]

Right but like....we follow Hornet in Silksong. Some of the endings see Hornet permanently trapped with The Knight.....so....how does that work.

[distant crypt]

I almost got every achievement

[shell yacht]

none of them contradict anything, and the most "problematic" ending leads to silksong the easiest imo

[distant crypt]

It is very pleasing

[olive bobcat]

Sealed Siblings leads to SS through the existence of seal breaking bugs

[marsh ibex]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgzlVc4LM4J6_DfuscZ4AaABCQ

[haughty brook]

All of the endings in HK are in a way or another "the protagonist manages to stop the infection" now how effective it is and what methods they use to accomplish it are a totally different thing.

[blissful oriole]

Love that game

[digital glen]

at least the drawing was cool right?

[trim estuary]

No it’s the game where you’re not supposed to think about the game

[coarse leaf]

Huh.

[shell yacht]

dammit zip

i had been winning

[trim estuary]

The only way to win is not to learn

[burnt topaz]

i am going to win by erasing my memory

[olive bobcat]

Amina McGucket

[fiery coral]

I just got past those two gardens owned by the old man and the painter woman

not sure how far in I am

[gilded adder]

Unique

[blissful oriole]

uhhhhhhhhh uhm

[burnt topaz]

unironically spoilers

[fiery coral]

Jonny

[blissful oriole]

probably like, more than halfway, i can't remember

[fiery coral]

Ooh, I see

[blissful oriole]

those were HARD to Speedrun

[sacred stratus]

you mean "being an asshole" simulator?

[marsh ibex]

Only a spoiler if you know the character and the series they’re in

[olive bobcat]

Gravity Falls has been out for 10 years it's fine

[coarse leaf]

if sheo was a woman this'd sound like hk

[burnt topaz]

oh my god 10 years

[coarse leaf]

2015 was 7 years ago

[coarse leaf]

Stop reminding me. I feel old.

[olive bobcat]

There were people born in 2015

[shell yacht]

how is that even a spoiler ive seen GF and that name is not in my memory

[blissful oriole]

1922 was 100 years ago, feel old yet?

[fair granite]

That moment when a show with only 2 seasons is better than most Disney shows nowadays

[stark prism]

nah it was like probably 3 years ago at most

[olive bobcat]

Have you seen the reel of Disney's attempted changes

[coarse leaf]

I mean, Amphibia and the Owl House are really good

[opaque sigil]

Gravity Falls aged well

[burnt topaz]

yeah its hilarious and pretty sad

[olive bobcat]

But are they GF good

[velvet sentinel]

disneys attempted changes?

[trim estuary]

(No)

[fair granite]

Wasn't owl house cancelled? Or am I thinking of smth else

[cedar trench]

hey-ho

[burnt topaz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYp0O-rle20

[coarse leaf]

Nope.

Mostly because of disney changes, but nope.

No fictional character in history in animation stands up to Grunkle Stan.

I want him to teach kids swears, 10/10, would vote for Mayor.

[coarse leaf]

It was, bcz Disney was just

[marsh ibex]

Wasn’t cancelled, it was gutted

[trim estuary]

Define gutted

[fair granite]

Rip

[marsh ibex]

Final season got reduced to several 44 minute specials

[olive bobcat]

Disney found the little gay people in their computer

[trim estuary]

Oh

[coarse leaf]

Burglebezzlement totally real crime.

[marsh ibex]

Like..3 of em

Because it didn’t fit the disney brand

Jokes on them though they got the most well animated kiss scene ever

[burnt topaz]

insane

fr ive seen some owl house clips, the animation can get really good

[marsh ibex]

And I’m pretty sure tom barkel did that one

Same guy who helped with monkie kid

[olive bobcat]

The openings are really good looking

[coarse leaf]

The animation for Owl House gets good during either important story segments or during fights. It's fine otherwise, but damn does it get good for fights.

[olive bobcat]

I wanna go back to the shows like Adventure Time and Regular Show where each episode just does whatever the fuck

[cedar trench]

^^^

[coarse leaf]

I will say that I don't necessarily agree with everything the creator puts in Owl House, but the vast majority I do, and it's a fun show.

[cedar trench]

regular show fans trying to get fuel for the lawnmower

[coarse leaf]

God I miss regular show as well.

[shell yacht]

regular show was the inside of a stoners mind

[coarse leaf]

"The pelvic thrust of death...one of my favourites".

[olive bobcat]

The world 10 minutes after Mordecai and Rigby order a pizza

[coarse leaf]

"A bunch of baby ducks, send em' to the moon - soda machine that doesn't work, send it to the moon."

[digital glen]

what the hell

[coarse leaf]

Also as a man in his early 30's, I relate to Benson in alot of ways I didn't as a teenager and young adult.

[olive bobcat]

Overruled judge, or is it overcooled? 🎸 🎵

[trim estuary]

I agree

[olive bobcat]

Even Gravity Falls has a main direction but still does a bunch of random shit on the way there

[coarse leaf]

Same. Adventure Time especially was probably the greatest animated show CN ever produced, and if I'm honest, one of the top 3 ever from the big 3 networks of CN, Nickelodeon, and Disney.

It got away with some stuff that I don't think I can even say in discord these days.

[olive bobcat]

Definitely

[coarse leaf]

Okay, I got two new backgrounds done today, two new fights today

[cedar trench]

AT was like the holy grail of my childhood

i grew up in like weird fucked up media with SPM and AT

[pastel phoenix]

Shaw

[marsh ibex]

Eh

[coarse leaf]

I grew up on a mixture of western animation and anime - I watched Princess Mononoke as a kid with my dad and it changed my life forever.

[coarse leaf]

Regular Show tho

[marsh ibex]

Adventure Time could’ve been better

[olive bobcat]

Joker everything could be better with you

[cedar trench]

like?

[digital glen]

yooo

[shell yacht]

it could kept going for ages but they ended it well

[cedar trench]

[marsh ibex]

the first season was tonally off with the rest of the show and makes rewatches harder

[coarse leaf]

AT could've been better in some ways....yes. Especially in regards to actually giving us an answer of who Finn settles down with eventually insteading of teasing a romance for 5 seasons, swapping to a new one, just to muck it up a few seasons later, go on a kissing spree, only to get....ugh....how can I put this....attacked...by LSP, get with Huntress Wizard, and then leave us hanging at the end.

Personally I always wanted the question of who Finn ends up with at the end actually answered.

[cedar trench]

idk man its mostly just intro you can skip it if you want

[spice plume]

We talking about adventure time?

cool. I’ve recently been sucked down the missing 411 rabbit hole

[olive bobcat]

My issue with AT is how the spacing of the episodes near the end affected pacing

[coarse leaf]

And also, the world of Adventure Time was genuinely horrifying when you peel back the fun art style.

It was a Post Post-Apocalypse Nightmare Hellscape with about a 3rd of the planet exploded, and terrible beasts around every corner.

[olive bobcat]

Because the episodes were coming out slower it meant more stuff had to be included, so the whole war arc feels really rushed for what should be a major event

[coarse leaf]

When you think about it, not many shows were as dark as AT was in the west.

Also, season 1 AT was wild. Tree Trunks first episode was amazingly odd. I wasn't aware cartoons on CN could use the word "sexy".

[dusty obsidian]

Hey hey hey, im back

[coarse leaf]

Welcome back.

[dusty obsidian]

Thank you

[coarse leaf]

We seem to have died all of a sudden.

[cedar trench]

yo

[dusty obsidian]

Seems so

[velvet sentinel]

yes

[dusty obsidian]

Sup

[velvet sentinel]

hard celeste rom

[coarse leaf]

[dusty obsidian]

AYYY QUIN!

[velvet sentinel]

[dusty obsidian]

[velvet sentinel]

wait

[dusty obsidian]

[cedar trench]

[marsh ibex]

@midnight fjord don’t

[burnt topaz]

[dusty obsidian]

16/17 shermas agree with this toothpase

[cedar trench]

WHAT.

[velvet sentinel]

dustbunny skip but no dustbunny?

man hitboxes are weird

[cedar trench]

amina you cant drop this and not expect me to cry

[dusty obsidian]

Wh

Wombat

[burnt topaz]

then cry

[digital glen]

wai wha

[dusty obsidian]

Imma go now

[cunning geode]

Yeah?

[velvet sentinel]

Wombat

[dusty obsidian]

I HAVE SUMMONED HIM

[velvet sentinel]

i made fanart

[dusty obsidian]

Wombat

[solemn tartan]

shal???

[cunning geode]

I saw that the first time you posted it

[velvet sentinel]

took me 3sec hours

[cedar trench]

[velvet sentinel]

oh thought you left

[dusty obsidian]

The hours are worth it for this masterpiece

[coarse leaf]

The animations for the new fights are done

Also, wait, I didn't send the animated version

[cedar trench]

new stuff new stuff

[velvet sentinel]

@coarse leaf is this the c4 skip but here? I crouch dashed

[olive bobcat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/677990379148017735/993660199825068062/YOOOOOO_HES_BALLINNNNN.gif

[coarse leaf]

There you go

[coarse leaf]

c4? madeline uses explosives in celeste?

Also, Shandow, did you see your fight?

[midnight fjord]

13, forge daughter, and jaune VS Giovanni, yuuki, and shadow queen

[coarse leaf]

This fight, Silksong person

[midnight fjord]

This is nothing

[coarse leaf]

Yeah, those are just the backgrounds!

[coarse leaf]

The one in the middle looks like someone fused a fat bullet with a bell.

[velvet sentinel]

?

[midnight fjord]

Forge daughter from silk song

[cedar trench]

what does this have to do with anything

[midnight fjord]

Then jaune from bug fables

[ripe geyser]

Is Lace the only known track at the moment?

[south rock]

Shaquille O'Neal

[midnight fjord]

The middle is yuuki

[coarse leaf]

hi chat

bye chat

[south rock]

Hello chat

Bye chat

[olive bobcat]

Bye guys

[velvet sentinel]

chat is gone now

[south rock]

I stole chat

[gilded adder]

I'm the man who sold chat.

[velvet sentinel]

prove it

[south rock]

Yeah prove it

[velvet sentinel]

also how much we worth?

[south rock]

Lemme see receipt

[south rock]

Eh like 2 walnuts the most

[coarse leaf]

The man who sold the chat

[wispy stream]

undertale music

[coarse leaf]

Truly the metal gear reference ever

[south rock]

Memories broken

[velvet sentinel]

the truth goes unspoken

[uneven orchid]

I've even forgotten my name

[radiant wraith]

No Metal Gear Solid in this chat

[fiery coral]

I don't know the season, or what is the reason

[coarse leaf]

For some reason, these designs I made are kinda funny ngl

[fiery coral]

Agreed, hence Metal Gear Rising

[opaque sigil]

No metal gear solid, just metal gear rising

[velvet sentinel]

im standing here holding my blade

[radiant wraith]

Same thing and you know it

[fiery coral]

very different

[radiant wraith]

[fiery coral]

A desolate place (place) without any trace (trace)

[uneven orchid]

I will not stand for such slander

[velvet sentinel]

its only the cold wind i feel

[fiery coral]

It's me that I spite as I stand up and fight

[velvet sentinel]

its the only thing i know for real

[fiery coral]

THERE WILL BE BLOOD

SHED

[velvet sentinel]

the man in the mirror nods his head