sk-discussion

[opaque sigil]

A hard but consistent boss is easier to do radiant than an easy but inconsistent or unpredictable boss

[sinful flare]

you really got skissued from a cookie damn

[left basin]

Nkg is hard at first and thats it
He is easy

[radiant wraith]

Of you think NKG is easy you clearly forgot your first playthrough

[wary copper]

markoth? never in 100 years

[brittle tangle]

Yeas, what about it? So is entirety of gaming

[radiant wraith]

It's easy now

It wasn't always that way

[sinful flare]

nkg more like just dont get hit

[left basin]

Nettle if you want your sanity or whats left of it dont do it plz

[keen blaze]

I mean I can't Defeat most Bosses in Radiant, I can't even Defeat GPZ Ascended
But NKG, Radiant ez

[opaque sigil]

or are just pandering for clout

[wary copper]

yes that's literally what i said i wasn't gonna do

[rapid topaz]

NKG took me a stupid amount of tries to beat them in my first playthrough, I can't even remember how much time I passed on it, but now the fight is way easier because I realized it's a very consistent fight

[radiant wraith]

But when Nosk is harder in radiant than PV in radiant... well, it just feels wrong, like it's harder just because it has more cheap sjota

[left basin]

Good now i can rest easily

[wary copper]

nosk's quite easy to not get hit by

[worn canyon]

Hello

[opaque sigil]

At the end of the day bosses doing 100% of your masks with a single hit just isn't how bosses were designed to be fought, so of course it feels off to fight them like that

[brittle tangle]

Well, when you actually fight it it is surprisingly hard

[wary copper]

the pure vessel has that triple swing attack which i cant even parry half the time despite having mark of pride

[radiant wraith]

Exactly, this is it.

[rapid topaz]

That's why Absrad is so scary even for the speedrunners, I've seen a lot of people in marathons calling her "RNG Queen", when you're about to finish a P5 run it's not uncommon to die in the absrad fight just because you didn't payed enough attention to their patterns

[keen blaze]

You're Hornet, Follow your own advice

[left basin]

The triple swing

[worn canyon]

Find it a bit funny that there are emotes for characters which aren’t even confirmed for Silksong, just shown in the trailor.

[brittle tangle]

[radiant wraith]

Nettle is Nettle, much cooler than Hornet imo

[frozen pulsar]

[wary copper]

i'm hornet but different and not really

[opaque sigil]

being shown in the trailer is confirmation that they're in the game.... also most of the emotes for SS characters have also appeared in blogposts or other screenshots

[keen blaze]

git gud still

[opaque sigil]

and are the only exceptions I can think of

[radiant wraith]

TC has an announcement: Sherma has been removed from the game

[wary copper]

git gud is good advice

[worn canyon]

So, you are the same “thing” as hornet, but not the same person?

[brittle tangle]

Has this appeared anywhere?

[worn canyon]

A spider is what I mean

[wary copper]

people gloss over it alot assuming it's an insult or something

[radiant wraith]

Do not git gud, you are already good, git better

[opaque sigil]

Sherma has been in the trailer, blogposts, and edge

[radiant wraith]

git the best

[worn canyon]

Specifically a pale-spider.

[radiant wraith]

git the best of all time!

[rapid topaz]

Jokes aside that's a cool philosophy.

[wary copper]

sherma has travelled the web

[brittle tangle]

U said emotes so

[keen blaze]

tbh I understand, in my opinion PV is the Hardest Boss, but Which Bosses you find Difficult Varies from one Person to an other

[worn canyon]

Git gud cookies from the grocery store, the chocolate chip cookies are the best.

[opaque sigil]

I've certainly had more issues with NKG than PV

[brittle tangle]

So has this spesically appeared enyfhere

[wary copper]

the pure vessel's not very difficult after a while, and easier by like 2 continents distance compared to the moth

[radiant wraith]

PV may be hard, but it's a fun fight, and fair enough to actually want to do it radiant

[opaque sigil]

PV is a very fun fight, one of my favorite bosses from any game

[radiant wraith]

Unlike that insufferable woman

[worn canyon]

I haven’t gotten to pure vessel.

[rapid topaz]

The "hardest" boss for me is simply AbsRad (radiant or not) but I have to admit, casually I struggled like hell on Failed Champion. I was kind of under-equipped too, like 6 mask or something

[wary copper]

i know someone who really, really loves the pure vessel fight

[worn canyon]

I couldn’t git gud.

[brittle tangle]

Do you mean... skill issues

[worn canyon]

Pretty much.

[keen blaze]

Probably found them hard cause of my Playstyle

[radiant wraith]

Not really

[opaque sigil]

Failed Champion is hard imo because he's so easy to underestimate

[wary copper]

if you keep practicing him over and over, eventually you might beat him in the pantheon

[worn canyon]

I don’t play combat games often though

This is my first combat based game

[wary copper]

oh

[opaque sigil]

If you beat pantheons 1-3 you can access PV in godseeker mode without doing P4

[worn canyon]

Hopefully I will eventually brutally murder him (:

[brittle tangle]

Yeas if

[radiant wraith]

Murder the creature

[keen blaze]

them

[rapid topaz]

Exactly. My first dream rematch was Soul Tyrant, so I assumed "False Knight dream version should be fine because that's one of the first bosses you fight". I was so wrong

[radiant wraith]

And then get prepared to murder the insufferable woman

(AbsRad)

[worn canyon]

[opaque sigil]

I do find it amusing how the dream variants are kinda inverted in terms of difficulty. LK is the easiest of them imo, and FC the hardest

[brittle tangle]

Oh I thought marissa

[worn canyon]

I think the dream thing is more psychological.

[radiant wraith]

An iconic first playthrough moment is getting destroyed by Failed Champion

[worn canyon]

You’ve already beaten the boss fight, so it will be easier the second time.

[opaque sigil]

I didn't even know about Failed Champion my first playthrough, only dream variant I ever encountered was LK because that was the one I actually had the dream nail for, and you necessarily reencounter the body

[worn canyon]

yeah I got rekt by them too.

[quartz cave]

A iconic first playthrough moment is killing quirrel

[rapid topaz]

FC is an interesting one tho because when you have enough stuff to permanently stagger them (spam spells, some nail hits, he's on the ground, you gain mana, and do that again) it becomes much more trivial. But if you don't have enough damage it's hell

[opaque sigil]

You are guaranteed to be able to do it when you encounter him, it's just not an intuitive thing to do

[worn canyon]

Mana?

[coarse leaf]

The Man who couldn't damage you is the hardest in someone else's dreams

[opaque sigil]

Soul

[rapid topaz]

yeah sorry I often call soul "mana"

[quartz cave]

Lol soul is mana now

[radiant wraith]

Juice

[rapid topaz]

just an habit in most games

[worn canyon]

To be fair mana is usually what it’s called in games

[opaque sigil]

Soul acts as mana for TK

[coarse leaf]

The-stat-in-every-game-that-lets-you-deal-big-damage is the best name

[wary copper]

fighting the nightmare king after fucking around with the troupe master, or vice versa

[worn canyon]

ok I have a weird question about lore

So a vengeful spirit is an anger spirit being launched

But how did it get angry? Was the enemy just really mad?

[cunning geode]

it’s a big blob

[opaque sigil]

It's just a lump of soul, the notion of its being a manifestation of anger was cut

[worn canyon]

Cause the knight doesn’t have emotions, so it didn’t come from them.

[lament lotus]

milm

[wary copper]

is soul goopy or like fire

[opaque sigil]

Both!

[worn canyon]

Ok that makes sense I guess

[wary copper]

boiling goop

[worn canyon]

?poll test

[cunning geode]

ideal body type

[lament lotus]

mmm tasty soul goop

[lament lotus]

💀

[rapid topaz]

A lot of people call it "Fireball" which I find it kind of amusing and that doesn't feel really out of place

[worn canyon]

Ok just want to figure our the communities stance on this:

[digital glen]

soul looks like milk with a lot of sugar in it

[worn canyon]

Is hornet void?

[cunning geode]

No

[wary copper]

i'd be more upset about the mess of being hit by a ball of soul goop than being harmed by it

[cunning geode]

moving on

[radiant wraith]

Who the fuck are "the community"?

[keen blaze]

it also burns

[worn canyon]

Good

[opaque sigil]

iirc it used to be called fireball in like a kickstarter update or something, and may still be called that in the game files, so it's not like that name came from nowhere

[radiant wraith]

Certainly not us 10 people

[worn canyon]

Yeah but you want to me ping everyone?

[shy kiln]

Hey guys

[radiant wraith]

No

[cunning geode]

You can’t ping everyone

It’s disabled for normal users

[shy kiln]

True

[digital glen]

Wasn’t descending dark called Tyrant’s Fist or something?

[worn canyon]

I know I can’t I’m just saying if.

[opaque sigil]

what? The public server with 150k+ members doesn't let you ping all 150k+ members?

[wary copper]

is shade soul made of void, if so, would it also be kinda goopy

[shy kiln]

Yeah it was
DDive was

[rapid topaz]

perhaps it's just shorter to write and simplier to memorize but yeah that would make perfect sense

[keen blaze]

Desolate Dive

[worn canyon]

You mean desolate dive?

[cunning geode]

We have nearly 180k members, pinging all at once would be very funny

[crisp drift]

can mods @ everyone

[radiant wraith]

Throw your normal pills in the trash to be able to ping everyone

[shy kiln]

[shell yacht]

go ahead and try it a few times
like 3

[opaque sigil]

admins when merch drops:

[coarse leaf]

TK cutting out tyrant's hands and eating them

[digital glen]

Dense like melting chocolate

[wary copper]

imagine the amount of random people who'd barge into the chat complaining about that ping

[cerulean sable]

do it please

i fucking beg you

try to @ everyone

[keen blaze]

@ everyone ZoteBoat is out

[cerulean sable]

3 times in a row

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

[radiant wraith]

Admins when localization files update comes to HK

[cerulean sable]

:)))

[heady iron]

this implies soul tyrant has hands

[wary copper]

does it work like bloody mary or something

[shell yacht]

[small goblet]

will this give me free elden ring?

[silver oak]

If you do it 3 times you summon the everyone beast

[shell yacht]

sure

[cerulean sable]

SILKSONG ENHANCED EDITION

[cunning geode]

Beetlejuice

[rapid topaz]

Quick reminder that we're not in April's Fool yet

[shy kiln]

Why is this channel always on the verge of a breakdown when I come?

[wary copper]

cool

[cerulean sable]

WITH A FREE HORNET HELMET FOR YOUR COSPLAYS

[coarse leaf]

He is the hand

[radiant wraith]

What the hell is even going on, why so many people so suddenly

[silver oak]

Ok this time it's just ttacco

[opaque sigil]

try it and find out
but seriously it's blacklisted and doing it 3 times will mute or ban you or smth

[fiery coral]

Hello there chat

[wary copper]

hornet hat

[shy kiln]

Yeah

[worn canyon]

Okay, so after Silksong, who do you think will be the protagonist for the next Holow knight game (assume there will be one) will it be one of out characters in Hk like quirrel or someone else, will it be a Silksong character like lace, or maybe a brand new character!?

[digital glen]

Unique

[fiery coral]

[heady iron]

maskbearer

[silver oak]

There probably won't be one

[wary copper]

i think they'll be done with hk after silksong

[tulip edge]

Mr mushroom?

[fiery coral]

Defeat the five Maskbearers

[radiant wraith]

No Hollow Knight games after Silksong

[worn canyon]

Yeah, but IF.

[fiery coral]

and collect their mask Shards

[wary copper]

silksong will be beeg, we wont need much more

[digital glen]

yeah

[radiant wraith]

Someone we don't know yet

[worn canyon]

I said in the comment

[rapid topaz]

There is a fan game being worked on called "Maskbearer" and as far as I know that involves Quirrel in it. Not official stuff but still cool

[cunning geode]

it’s no longer about Quirrel

I think

[worn canyon]

That I would be assuming there would be another even though there might not be one

[shy kiln]

That would be 1 and 1/4 masks
99 cents for one mask shard

[small goblet]

even if there will be a new hk game, i'm sure that it'll be someone from ss whom we didn't see yet/didn't see much of

[keen blaze]

ZoteBoat

[shy kiln]

Pay up

[opaque sigil]

Is that actually being worked on? Thought it was just a fake thing. Tidetale was about Quirrel, but turned into its own thing due to copyright concerns or smth

[silver oak]

Inb4 fearless fox is a silksong character

[coarse leaf]

Yeah we'll need to do a completionist run with every single detail memorised in silksong and hk to have a 1% accurate guess on the next protagonist

[worn canyon]

Alright

[radiant wraith]

Next protagonist will be young Elderbug

[opaque sigil]

grindle

[keen blaze]

I'm up to the Challenge (Oh no I don't wanna do rad HoG)

[wary copper]

adolescentbug

[silver oak]

[worn canyon]

I’m also glad ants are making it into Silksong with their absence in Hk

[keen blaze]

and lav

[cerulean sable]

Carved out of shaman stone
Earth, blood and forest of bones
They knock Crystal Peaks down
Pharlooms grating soundddd

[rapid topaz]

Huh I guess it is? From the interview it seems like it's still worked on. Maybe they just abandonned the Quirrel thing and made their own character, but it's definitely happening in the same universe than Hollow Knight story.

[cunning geode]

next protagonist is obvious
||||

[uncut citrus]

Hello everyone I’m back

[worn canyon]

[silver oak]

Tf is earthmover

[wary copper]

reev

[radiant wraith]

Next protagonist should be Melissa or whatever she's called

[worn canyon]

Melissa?

[silver oak]

Malenia

[sinful flare]

gm gc

[cunning geode]

Markiplier

[radiant wraith]

You know, little beetle girl

[worn canyon]

Where is that character?

[coarse leaf]

Myla

[silver oak]

Millibelle

[radiant wraith]

Y-yeah

[keen blaze]

Emilitia

[worn canyon]

Myla?

[coarse leaf]

Ah yes
Payday 3 hollow knight

[sinful flare]

Mbretta

[wary copper]

marissa

[silver oak]

M'lady

[slow viper]

Other games: wow the lore seems awesome, i cant wait to play

Silksong: i have no fucking idea what the story is about, i cant wait to play

[radiant wraith]

?

[sinful flare]

!

[keen blaze]

She dies, the only way for her death to not be canon in your game is to Beat Radiance Without getting Crystal Heart

[wary copper]

the characters are... cool

[silver oak]

silksong: it's a hollow knight sequel, that's literally all the info you need to be excited

[worn canyon]

That’s myla

For a sec I thought you meant bretta

[keen blaze]

Or even DDive

[wary copper]

we know garmond, zaza, lace and carmelita are in it. i'm sold

[uncut citrus]

And

[coarse leaf]

It's from team cherry, the creators of the Hit Indie Metroidvania With SoulsLike Elements Hollow Knight, that's all you need to know to be excited

[rapid topaz]

In this video Relyea is asking about Maskbearer with the people who are making it, and it's a recent thing (I let the timestamp) https://youtu.be/rDodvhIXzm4?t=692

[radiant wraith]

Aaaah I want to know more about Signal!!

[uncut citrus]

Hi Ian

[lament lotus]

hasnt maskbearer been a thing for like 2 years

[rapid topaz]

So I assume it's still worked on?

[radiant wraith]

Hello Reevers!

[slow viper]

I wanna get hk on steam so i can play mods but ill lose my switch muscle memory

[worn canyon]

[opaque sigil]

maybe it turned into a real project then or smth

[silver oak]

Hollow Knight: Silksong is the epic sequel to Hollow Knight, the award winning action-adventure of bugs and heroes. As the lethal hunter Hornet, journey to all-new lands, discover new powers, battle vast hordes of bugs and beasts and uncover ancient secrets tied to your nature and your past.

[worn canyon]

[rapid topaz]

yeah I mean they probably do that as a side project on their free time so it takes time

[worn canyon]

?afk on

[rapid topaz]

if you ask me that looks like a project probably too much promising I'd be surprised it's getting finished before silksong

[worn canyon]

/:

[digital glen]

I hope all fleas merge into one and turn into a boss fight

[uncut citrus]

Didn’t MEBI said he finished all maskbearer sprites already?

[coarse leaf]

Muscle memory of the controller? Can't you use it through steam input

[radiant wraith]

I hope you can eat the fleas

[digital glen]

this video’s thumbnail is just elderbug’s mind fucking exploding

[opaque sigil]

old HK trailers are wild

[uncut citrus]

[lament lotus]

🤯 🤯

[radiant wraith]

[rapid topaz]

Things have really changed since then

[lament lotus]

ELDERBUG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[wary copper]

no one will know you entered their mind definently

[radiant wraith]

Maybe they learned their lesson

[wary copper]

[radiant wraith]

TC I mean

[coarse leaf]

yoooo new hollow knight update?

We can kill elderbug now

[opaque sigil]

idk if it's a question of learning their lesson so much as having an established style and a better idea of how to make games contributing to a plausibly more focused development

[radiant wraith]

Showing stuff when it could end up being cut

[rapid topaz]

In those trailers you can see a sneak peak at a giant spider, also a giant slug, that's kind of funny compared to final game

[keen blaze]

Dream Diving was kinda.....
I don't know if I'm glad or Mad is got cut.

[coarse leaf]

What's better you do it by hitting his Youngerbug form in his dreams

[opaque sigil]

I doubt it's particularly easy to predict what will and won't get cut

[radiant wraith]

It's not easy at all, that's why showing a lot may be a mistake

[silver oak]

Broken vessel in greenpath
Great hopper in crossroads

[radiant wraith]

That's why they are doing great!

[silver oak]

Snail village

[quartz cave]

Imagine it was like that in the game

[coarse leaf]

snail village 😭

[uncut citrus]

I’m 79% sure hornet’s gonna get cut from Silksong

[quartz cave]

New game +

[rapid topaz]

Snail Village looked great but I understand why it gets cut. Probably too much out of place

[digital glen]

I also think this song is nowhere in the final game, it doesn’t sound like anything in the game https://youtu.be/10MQdIqalZg

[coarse leaf]

snail village should NOT of been cut

[opaque sigil]

I agree, but when you're a kickstarter game your hands are kinda tied in that respect

[keen blaze]

And no need for a 2nd Bardoon

[radiant wraith]

I would have loved to go there with some salt

[coarse leaf]

No bardoons are enough bardoons

the world needs as many bardoons as it can get

[rapid topaz]

I mean we still have some snail village stuff left, with Unn

[silver oak]

Counterpoint, don't complain when there's something in the trailer that doesn't make it in
If it's a lot of things, then there's reason to get mad if they don't say anything beforehand but the trailers are promises, not contracts

[coarse leaf]

unn is a little bitch

[keen blaze]

Yes, but Lore is something TC Won't just Give Away like Candy

[uncut citrus]

tammo unreact your zote mad emote then Rey to with it again you’re breaking the council

[rapid topaz]

they give you the best charm in the game tho

[coarse leaf]

Lies

[silver oak]

Can someone make but it's bardoon

[coarse leaf]

they call the mosskin to a place they can't even reach

she's a fucking idiot

Unn is the only good higher being you're the little bitch :ra

[radiant wraith]

She's kinda cute tho

[coarse leaf]

Do you think they would come if she was at a place where they could come

[uncut citrus]

Tammo you did it again-

[rapid topaz]

#UnnForSilksong

[digital glen]

an agent of chaos

[coarse leaf]

one LITERALLY does in game

One

[radiant wraith]

You kill him

[coarse leaf]

at least she could try

[keen blaze]

It's Radiance's Fault

[coarse leaf]

she's just lazy

[radiant wraith]

Excuses

[silver oak]

that's what they all say

[coarse leaf]

Everything is Radiance's fault

[uncut citrus]

isn’t kinda everything Radiance’a fault?

[radiant wraith]

#The Radiance did nothing wrong

[coarse leaf]

Even GPZ is radiance's fault everyone knows bretta is radiance

[keen blaze]

It's PK's Fault
It's WL's Fault
It's EVERYONE's fault but Not Unn's fault

[silver oak]

it's not THK's fault

[coarse leaf]

Unn is a bystander

It's surely not Zote's fault

[silver oak]

It's all sherma's fault

[keen blaze]

No it's Radiance's fault for not Killing Bretta fast enough

[coarse leaf]

by not doing anything she is contributing to the problem

[radiant wraith]

She is useless

[rapid topaz]

Maybe it's all Radiance fault but she isn't a bad being

[coarse leaf]

Sherma is the single creature controlling all of it

[coarse leaf]

she kills a kingdom of bugs out of spite

[radiant wraith]

Cointerpoint: she is

[rapid topaz]

In fact I think nothing is about good or bad in HK

[digital glen]

Sherma is pulling the strings all along

[coarse leaf]

radiance is literally evil

Actually, Sherma died 100 years ago, the one you see is just an AI designed by the Patriots

[keen blaze]

She lost A lot of her Power, you'd die in a Second if you were at her place
Cause she in acid lol

[coarse leaf]

she is a god i am some guy

why r u comparing her to me

[hardy gulch]

I am a god, I can confirm acid tickles

[silver oak]

There's literally a canonical in game item that lets you swim in acid

[coarse leaf]

Mosskin didnt consider themselves a part of hallownest so she killed bugs beyond that kingdom

[rapid topaz]

I mean Radiance has it's reasons Even tho subjectively, it's horrible

[keen blaze]

See? You're not a God and there are Basic Husks in HoG

[coarse leaf]

no there aren't

[hardy gulch]

Sure are

[keen blaze]

You're Godless than a Vengefly

[hardy gulch]

Lil ones

[coarse leaf]

there's no basic husks in HoG

[radiant wraith]

L + no gods

[digital glen]

There’s should be a godseeker picture saying “no gods?”

[rapid topaz]

The Knight statue appears with certain conditions in the HoG

[silver oak]

No higher beings?

[coarse leaf]

no gods?

[keen blaze]

Sharky isn't a OP Void Being tho

[coarse leaf]

prove it

[radiant wraith]

Zote should do the no Bs meme to TK

[radiant wraith]

Interested?

[coarse leaf]

i didn't even know there were statues in the background of HoG

[coarse leaf]

no zotelings?

[uncut citrus]

But it says « nor god » so TK isn’t a god
(Ignore the fact Godseeker calls VGF « god of gods »)

[silver oak]

Boss titles are canonical

[keen blaze]

WAIT NO I DIDN'T MEANT IT THAT WAY !
We aren't in Undertale understand I didn't meant it that way

[silver oak]

One sec gonna post that in lore

[radiant wraith]

Zote steals your "maiden"

[opaque sigil]

that's dependent on void heart though, without it TK probably doesn't count as a god, hence "not bug nor beast nor god"

[keen blaze]

That's Godseekers thinking you're cringe cause they aren't Void Experts

[coarse leaf]

Bretta has accused me of having her as a maiden

[rapid topaz]

I have a question about Godseeker and Godhome Lore
is TK and godseekers the only ones who came from the "overworld" and everything else came from godseeker's mind?

Like, I assume AbsRad is just a glorified version imagined by the godseeker or something

[keen blaze]

Radiance is Real Radiance

Hence the EtV ending Deleting Infection

[uncut citrus]

But doesn’t « absolute » also means like « true »
And « true » « real »?

So absrad true rad
Just gotta google translate it back and forth a few times-

[rapid topaz]

I don't think so. Might be, might not
at least in french Absolute doesn't mean necessarily "Truth/True" so now I'm confused

Idk about absolute in english

[radiant wraith]

Absolute is like the distance of a number to the number 0

[uncut citrus]

Wait is somebody taking something I’m saying seriously-

I didn’t plan to get this far

[radiant wraith]

Or the distance of a point to the origin

[rapid topaz]

I'm taking it seriously because that's lowkey an interesting point

[opaque sigil]

Absolute is interchangeable with true in the sense of like "true evil" or smth, not truth as in honesty

[radiant wraith]

Real Radiance

RR

[rapid topaz]

Silksong is absolute

[radiant wraith]

You are absolute

[uncut citrus]

Sams

[left basin]

Shit how do i hide

[rapid topaz]

I am absolute what's your name

[left basin]

Hey reeve

[uncut citrus]

You may not.
You can not.

[radiant wraith]

I am absolute

[left basin]

[uncut citrus]

[keen blaze]

do I change my Username just for the joke?

[radiant wraith]

Make your own decision dear

[keen blaze]

Ok I did it

[outer lodge]

Zote?

[keen blaze]

Yes I am.

[left basin]

I love this

[keen blaze]

(ok time to change it back and no one will get the joke anymore)

[rapid topaz]

Wouldn't that means Zote had dram nailed the godseeker tho?

[opaque sigil]

Zote isn't in godhome at all lorewise

[rapid topaz]

makes sense

[keen blaze]

Plus I fixed the not having a space between the | and 63/63

[keen blaze]

#hk-lore is you're being serious

[opaque sigil]

The entities that are there consciously in some capacity are Hornet, Grimm, Sheo, Rad, and probably Oro, Mato, Sly, and PV

[keen blaze]

You're in #hk-meme

2.0

[opaque sigil]

And lifeblood creature

[radiant wraith]

Say that again and I'll gut you

[keen blaze]

So basically the Pantheon Peaks and the HB / HB-related

[rapid topaz]

Oh wait I just thought of a funny problematic
what if multiple Dream Nails exists, then 2 persons decide to dream nail the same person and goes into their dream, would they be able to see both each other?

[opaque sigil]

they would, yes

because both are in that dream

[rapid topaz]

okay that's cool

I never thought about that

[opaque sigil]

moreso "the ones that indicate that they are and those under identical circumstances to those that indicate that they are" but sure

[heady iron]

ping me next time people are posting weird elderc variants

[uncut citrus]

[opaque sigil]

[rapid topaz]

the elderS is nightmare fuel

[wary copper]

[opaque sigil]

y'all are weird

[keen blaze]

(I was just finding an excuse to use "pantheon peaks")

[wary copper]

i see your memories

[rapid topaz]

I change my mind wtf is elderL

[left basin]

oh no

[cerulean sable]

ok hear rme out SIlksong boss where theres many of them but halfway they all raise their hands and create some kind of half dream dimension and they drop multiple meteors at you that would badass

[haughty ingot]

[uncut citrus]

[cunning geode]

ok hear me out
Silksong

[keen blaze]

?

[cerulean sable]

they go like

🙌

[left basin]

No

[cerulean sable]

and meteors fall down

[uncut citrus]

[radiant wraith]

That would badass for sure

[cerulean sable]

eys and hornet rolls forward and blasts people with her blunderbuss +10

[haughty ingot]

[heady iron]

what about a boss where the first phase is you running towards them as they fire arrows at you while you have allies running toward them and then second phase is them crashing down a meteor with gravity magic

[wary copper]

[cerulean sable]

BROO THAT SOUNDS EPIC imagine if you can summon sherma/?!??!

[uncut citrus]

[fiery coral]

That would be awesome Jingle, it's a very creative idea

[cerulean sable]

but sherma leaves because theyre fucking useless

[heady iron]

trobbio has returned to his world

[cerulean sable]

cloth is the shittiest summon in any Hollow Knight game

[wary copper]

sherma saw something cool and got distracted

[cerulean sable]

they literally just jump and do like 2-3 damage equiv of one hit

[radiant wraith]

Best summon is Quirrel, I think it's a must to beat Umu

[haughty ingot]

yea but at least she has personally

unlike the other ones

[uncut citrus]

Technically no

[wary copper]

she's huggable

[cerulean sable]

i like cloth as a character

but her death is boring

[rapid topaz]

maybe but you can kill Traitor Lord without having to fight at all of you let cloth do the work

[cerulean sable]

like 0 weight

unlike myla

myla i was like oh god oh fuck

[wary copper]

she kinda just dies

[cerulean sable]

cloth was, ok shes fucking dead

[rapid topaz]

haven't you had the secret achievement about letting cloth do the whole fight

[radiant wraith]

[haughty ingot]

fair

[wary copper]

poor cloth, she's mighty and strong, but gets humiliated and beaten up by anything remotely threatening

[left basin]

Like me

[keen blaze]

Yes, exept in Godhome

[heady iron]

how about a boss where everytime you try to bind they throw a fucking black fireball at you

[wary copper]

then gets fucking impaled randomly by the traitor lord before he also dies

[cerulean sable]

whch is actually why im scared of Silksong because the last thing i want is them creating a story that i dont give af uck about

[uncut citrus]

No, no, you can beat uumuu in the normal world without quirrel

[keen blaze]

Even Bringing a JellyBomb you need to wait for Quirrel

[left basin]

Kasa?

[uncut citrus]

But quirrel doesn’t do anything does he?

[left basin]

Kasa!!!!

[opaque sigil]

That's her goal tho

[radiant wraith]

Nageo nageo!

[hollow terrace]

NOOO SMALL PHARLOOM BUG DONT TOUCH THE ELECTRICAL FENCE

[keen blaze]

You can't damage Uumuu without them being Kassaaed

[cerulean sable]

im playing through remnants of the ashes atm

and holy shit i do not give a fuck about your generic NPC dialogue about "WOHAHH YOU HAVE TO FIND IN YOUR PATH TO CREATE SOME LEGACY" or bullshit idgaf, i just wanna shoot stupid inanimate trees on a repetitive environment

seriously nowadays when i see some effort to make a cool 3d cutscene i just roll my eyes

[radiant wraith]

Sounds familiar

[jovial shore]

Hello! What's going on?

[rapid topaz]

what is remnants of ashes

[keen blaze]

JellyBomb deals ∞ damage, but you need to be able to damage

[cerulean sable]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/617290/Remnant_From_the_Ashes/

Steam

Remnant: From the Ashes

Remnant: From the Ashes is a third-person survival action shooter set in a post-apocalyptic world overrun by monstrous creatures. As one of the last remnants of humanity, you’ll set out alone or alongside up to two other players to face down hordes of deadly enemies and epic bosses, and try to carve a foothold, rebuild, and then retake what was ...

Price

$39.99

Recommendations

34447

Metacritic

78

▶ Play video

[uncut citrus]

ss-discussion

[keen blaze]

Exept in Godhome Fight where they deal 100

[left basin]

Idk why iam here
Idk who iam

[cerulean sable]

i shit you not, we are like 2-3 hours into the game and so far the environment STILL looks like this

[jovial shore]

considering the last message was the steam page of From the Ashes, I beg to differ

[cerulean sable]

this is the starting area btw

[radiant wraith]

""""" Dark Souls with guns """""

[cerulean sable]

pretty much

but instead of estus its...

dragon hearts?

[rapid topaz]

Dark souls with guns, they finally did it

[radiant wraith]

What about exploration?

[cerulean sable]

that you place and absorb on your chest because...

[uncut citrus]

Yeah, this is ss-discussion

[trim estuary]

Their name should have skin integrated into it somehow

[opaque sigil]

If SS sorta follows in HK's footsteps with a more subtle narrative (even if dialogue is somewhat more prominent) then at least it won't (and pretty much can't) suffer from an uninteresting story that is shoved in your face

[radiant wraith]

If the exploration it's not like Dark Souls then the game isn't like Dark Souls

[cerulean sable]

i shit you not, imagine the forgotten crossroad extended UP UNTIL the very edge of the city of tears

[radiant wraith]

Sounds bland

[cerulean sable]

except theres dungeons here and there to chunk the world but like

[hollow terrace]

Shoutouts to post apocalyptic games adding beautiful/vibrant areas than just areas with a color pallet of greys

[wary copper]

all that changes is that halfway through there are suddenly hoppers

[keen blaze]

Well even if they disagree... #sk-discussion kinda is-

[fiery coral]

but but Elden Ring

[keen blaze]

Please don't drop my pin

[left basin]

Nettle seems like you dont like the hoppers

[wary copper]

they're alright i guess
but they'd seem like they belong in the crossroads

[radiant wraith]

I will twist you and tie you in knots

[left basin]

In beta they were

[mighty apex]

anyone have some copium i can borrow

[trim estuary]

honestly the entire crossroads should be filled with giant hoppers

[wary copper]

and the journey has to get more difficult, so improvise via hoppers

[uncut citrus]

I will drop your ip...

[left basin]

nope

[wary copper]

and at the end, there are lots of big hoppers

[radiant wraith]

So basically Remnant from the Ashes is Elden Ring

[cerulean sable]

imagine this ok

you go around in red colored city with roots for 15 fucking minutes right? then you find a dungeon entrance that will progress the game

the dungeon area is usually always an underground area which is either a subway, the sewers, or some underground section or wtv that often gets used 2 to 4 fucking times

then once you get out, its back to the red colored city again

rinse repeat

[hollow terrace]

YEAH

[fiery coral]

Interesting choice of aesthetic

[radiant wraith]

Again, sounds familiar...

[hollow terrace]

I LOVE SHALLOW COLOR PALLETS

[radiant wraith]

Probably remind me of Nioh

Where every area feels and plays the same

[hollow terrace]

because it sounds like MGR

[fiery coral]

MGR YEAHH

RULES OF NATURE

[hollow terrace]

Yeah I said it, MGR is shallow

[cerulean sable]

again, its like 15 minutes of crossroads, 10 minutes of ancestral mounds, back to 15 minutes of crossroads THEN back to 10 minutes of ancestral mounds or like, something similar

[heady iron]

funni standing here

[hollow terrace]

Sue me

[radiant wraith]

I kinda expected that looking at the game honestly

[cerulean sable]

at one point we actually got me and my friends confused, until we realized they just copy pasted the same sections so it looks very similar

[keen blaze]

51.121.231.2
18.184.147.100
158.200.19.119
14.72.244.99
78.113.38.28

[fiery coral]

[opaque sigil]

please don't let the citadel be like that dear god please

[wary copper]

i knew of greenpath, so i assumed it'd become a little more colorful

[radiant wraith]

Imagine if The Citadel is Hallownest sized

[fiery coral]

That'd be awesome

[digital glen]

TC went fucking crazy

[opaque sigil]

I just don't want the citadel to be a big homogenous area that you never leave after you get there

[cerulean sable]

heres the map design for the past 3 hours btw

[fiery coral]

unlikely but hey awesome regardless

[wary copper]

halfway through there are many hoppers

[radiant wraith]

Interesting, inspired, memorable

[wary copper]

maaaany hoppers

[keen blaze]

It ain't much, but it's Honest work

[radiant wraith]

Have any of you played Nioh?

[digital glen]

A bit

[radiant wraith]

It just felt so repetitive

[wary copper]

saw charlie play it

[fiery coral]

Nioh I haven't

[radiant wraith]

It was repetitive

[cerulean sable]

https://youtu.be/85KVT6QL9B4?t=29 also i hate the dialogue or maybe im just tired of the prophetic style cryptic bs

[radiant wraith]

Same enemies in all areas

[opaque sigil]

using the same or similar enemies can work

[fiery coral]

I initially read that as "Solo, The Root Mother"

[wary copper]

most new games feel like deja vu slightly

[cerulean sable]

yeah 3 hours so far weve encountered 4-6 unique enemies

[digital glen]

the stances are cool how you can change and regain stamina, but it just feels so repetitive

[cerulean sable]

i literally wanted to skip her dialogue

[trim estuary]

So not this? (Gold is citadel, gray is hornets path, the other colors are areas

[digital glen]

i played the beginning of that game 2 times and dropped 2 times

[cerulean sable]

i actually hope we can only access like 1/3rd of the citadel early into the game

[opaque sigil]

not if all the gold is basically the same and you only have brief outings

[radiant wraith]

Nioh is different demons, zombie dudes, Skeleton with Axe, Skeleton with bow, skeleton with spear, floating skulls, and cyclops dudes

[cerulean sable]

one thing im actually hoping is they chunk larger areas into smaller sub areas

kinda like how for city of tears theres the royal wing and the soul sanctum

[radiant wraith]

Those enemies are 80% of the combat

[opaque sigil]

that would be nice

SS already increases inter-area variation way beyond what HK did, doing the same for intra-area variation would be neat too

[cerulean sable]

seriously enemy wise i like how Hollow Knight has a unique world so they can easily make different looking enemies

because frankly im tired of bandit, weird abstract monster, knight, an undead or a skeleton being the enemy

because it feels like standard RPG stuff at this point

[hollow terrace]

What about dragon monkeys

[trim estuary]

it is standard rpg stuff

[cerulean sable]

yeah and the different color palette will definitely help a lot with the variety

[opaque sigil]

I mean many of the HK enemies are soldiers and/or undead but yeah

[fiery coral]

To be fair "weird abstract monsters" can have a ton of variety

[radiant wraith]

Did Elden Ring do well with the color palette?

[cerulean sable]

at least they feel different

for me at least

[hollow terrace]

Absolutely

[cerulean sable]

because like, the setting feels very unique

they still end up with the same archetype but im just happy im not fighting another skeleton

also i hate nature so if the game is 90% forests ech

its all about those ruins babyyyy

[opaque sigil]

Well SS seems to have more naturalistic areas so skissue

[keen blaze]

:skissue:

[trim estuary]

yeah we need more above ground choral

[radiant wraith]

I want SS rooms that don't have stuff in them

[uncut citrus]

[trim estuary]

how do you feel about spontaneously combusting

[radiant wraith]

Rooms that don't have an NPC nor a lore tablet nor a collectible

[hollow terrace]

Skeleton bugs

[radiant wraith]

And most importantly not a secret room behind a wall

[hollow terrace]

Screw that I want all the rooms to have collectibles and secrets

[radiant wraith]

[cunning geode]

Secret base to place your collectibles in like Animal Crossing

[radiant wraith]

But honestly tho, too much stuff to do everywhere interferes a little with the immersion I want

[hollow terrace]

I want to go to a room expecting ONE craft able item

[fiery coral]

No more than one

[hollow terrace]

also make it have a cool looking glow

[cerulean sable]

also what i hate about some sidequest overload is 70% the rewards arent worth it

[radiant wraith]

Neko not in front of the mods...

[opaque sigil]

Does that include things like silk spools, shard statues, enemies, etc?

[hollow terrace]

wdym you don’t think that pharloom bugs carry around propane tanks in their room??

[cerulean sable]

like im grim dawn, the meta is now to ignore 80% of the quest and just beeline to the final boss because you will ALWAYS get enough EXP to catch up

[radiant wraith]

I guess there can be enemies but nothing too challenging or that demands too much attention.

Most of the time, I don't want to have to fight 5 tanky enemies every time I enter a new room

[opaque sigil]

It's not like HK is super dense in pickups and stuff or challenging encounters, there are a number of rooms that are pretty passive (something important for painless retraversal)

[cerulean sable]

id rather have 3-4 quality side quests ver 20 different "please help us if you do we will give a reward that youd get more if you do the main quests anyway"

[radiant wraith]

I do think this

[cerulean sable]

actually honestly

in terms of level design i like it when areas make sense why theyre there

[opaque sigil]

idk if that's a level design thing so much as an immersion/worldbuilding thing

[cerulean sable]

like i thought putting a store room in CoT was pretty cool as an idea to let them load material

well it kinda falls in it in some way yeah?

[opaque sigil]

ig, I kinda think of level design as more the gameplay side of things though

[cerulean sable]

fair

i kinda merge them together

[radiant wraith]

This is true, I just don't want them to overdo density in Silksong.

[cerulean sable]

like CoT at least had a reason to be there

[opaque sigil]

imo the demo seemed to have a pretty reasonable balance so I'm not too worried

[radiant wraith]

[cerulean sable]

ie there originally was no rain, but the eventual weathering of the ceiling caused it to start leaking

meanwhile in Fallout 3 they created a fucking city around an undetonated nuclear without any near source of water or farms because...

because bethesda designers apparently just pitch wtv they think is cool and mesh it all together

[opaque sigil]

Reminder that there is a very good chance that eventually the ceiling to CoT will probably collapse and it could be entirely destroyed

[cerulean sable]

i have no doubts with TC with regards to that tho considering they were stingy with some of the benches in the first game because they said "it didnt make sense in the world"

[cerulean sable]

based

if this was a DS game CoT would somehow be at the top of Pharloom

[opaque sigil]

well good thing it's not then because that would be stupid

[cerulean sable]

THIS HAS BEEN THE SAME ENVIRONMENT FOR THE PAST 3 FUCKING HOURS

[cerulean sable]

then again you have people who hopes that somewhere theres a breakable floor that somehow leads back to Hallownest

[opaque sigil]

we don't talk about those people

[radiant wraith]

Does everything have to be brown?

Brown on brown and more brown?

[hasty oar]

Hornet digs miles of tunnel back to hallownest from pharloom: the game

[radiant wraith]

There are people that hope for more old Hollow Knight stuff instead of shiny new stuff

[uncut citrus]

Exciting gameplay!

[opaque sigil]

Grimm Troupe in silksong omg!!!

[radiant wraith]

Shade Lord as the final boss? Have you considered that we may not know the final boss yet? The same way we didn't know at the start of HK?

[frozen pulsar]

haa anybody else's chrome died

[keen blaze]

no endings canon

[opaque sigil]

also lord of shades would swat hornet like a fly, there's just zero competition

[radiant wraith]

Have you considered that it's cooler to see new NPCs than seeing Bretta, Cornifer and Quirrel come back or smth?

[cerulean sable]

someone once said that Hallownest is important to Hornet so that means it has to show up again

like i get it should be mentioneed

[radiant wraith]

Have you considered that we already fought Grimm?

[cerulean sable]

but like it shouldnt take the attention away

IMO at least

[uncut citrus]

What if Hornet becomes a HB at the end of ss-

[opaque sigil]

somebody also once said that THK had to appear since the game still has "hollow knight" in the title

[digital glen]

Warrior Bretta boss fight

[opaque sigil]

She'd probably still get obliterated

[radiant wraith]

Hornet killing Bretta in Silksong would be hilarious

[keen blaze]

Nah she gets some other OP power stronger than void that we just hadn't heard of yet

[digital glen]

Hornet will be the leader of a vessel army at the end of ss

[radiant wraith]

DESPITE ALL MY RAGE

[uncut citrus]

Tbf we really don’t know that much about HBs and all, next thing we know there might be things way more powerful than wyrms, or Voidheart TK

[keen blaze]

if it was an Option I'd probably do it

[opaque sigil]

god I hope they don't do something stupid like that to try to one up the original game

[radiant wraith]

Im still just a

[coarse leaf]

pharloom is on the moon.

[uncut citrus]

Hey, rat

[radiant wraith]

In a cage

[keen blaze]

Nah it's in "morrow"

[hasty oar]

I feel like hornet probably will get some HB-level power related to silk

[past cradle]

if u guys were to make an npc from hk to be a boss is ss, who would it be?

[radiant wraith]

No

[opaque sigil]

sure maybe whatever but saying "ha look this is stronger than void" for zero reason would be absurd

[radiant wraith]

I wouldn't

[coarse leaf]

shade cloak being

[hasty oar]

I mean like we can’t compare them because all the void is back in hallownest

[digital glen]

sly

[radiant wraith]

Do we know that?

[keen blaze]

Myla so most peoples couldn't play the Game if it was a mandatory boss

[opaque sigil]

part of the reason why it would be stupid

[past cradle]

i would choose cornifer's wife, because her dream nail dialouge says she knows how to fight

[uncut citrus]

Sherma.

Sherma was an NPC in HK, technically

[radiant wraith]

Are we sure the void doesn't extend throughout the entire world underground?

But like, just because she knows how to fight doesn't mean she's strong or anything

[past cradle]

I would feel bad fighting her tho,

[coarse leaf]

the knight spills black (void) particles when on 1 health therefore Hallownest is covered in void

[radiant wraith]

She may be only as strong as one of the CoT guards for all we know

[keen blaze]

I believe There is at least way more in Hallownest, cause there's a LOT of it OP substance in Hallownest, if there was that much everywhere would be unbalanced

[opaque sigil]

who says there's a balance

[keen blaze]

I mean Everyone would make Void Weapons and the world would explode

[coarse leaf]

theres probably very little to do with void in ss

[opaque sigil]

weaponizing void is not a trivial thing to do, nor is void something that would always be found

[radiant wraith]

Maybe everywhere else they just haven't gone that deep

[trim estuary]

I think it does

[cerulean sable]

Orbital Silk Nuke

[uncut citrus]

Oh you will feel bad for sure, if you have to fight Sherma, you will feel real bad...

[opaque sigil]

ofc if Void was universal then as of the abyss cutscene TK is basically the supreme entity in any given region

[hasty oar]

No I just don’t get why you’re mad about there being something stronger than void when there would be no way to verify that anyways

[trim estuary]

Any Sher

[past cradle]

[uncut citrus]

Inter-Kingdomial-ballistic-silk-missile

[digital tangle]

I think the opposite would be true. too much stuff in a single closed space is by definition unbalanced

[keen blaze]

Would feel like they making stuff up

[wary copper]

silkboom

[opaque sigil]

I'm saying that if the game went out of its way to establish that Hornet is somehow more powerful than TK for zero reason aside from surpassing its predecessor, it would be silly

[radiant wraith]

Void is just oil

[uncut citrus]

And that’s how Hornet can beat VGF

[hasty oar]

Ah yeah that’d be dumb

[keen blaze]

We already had the same conversation in #hk-lore-

[stoic path]

Silksoon?

[radiant wraith]

Canonically called Shade Lord btw

[trim estuary]

Why don’t it burn then

[coarse leaf]

silksus

[hasty oar]

In any case base hornet is stronger than base tk anyways

[past cradle]

void is black lean

[radiant wraith]

There's no fire in Hallownest

[keen blaze]

Nah that's the game file

[opaque sigil]

I don't think SS should try to surpass HK on, like, a cosmic scale. If anything it really, really shouldn't since the intended aesthetic is more grounded

[radiant wraith]

That was the joke

[cerulean sable]

i just want more

smokerock gatling guns

is that too much to fucking ask?

[stoic path]

Maybe

[radiant wraith]

I just want some fucking ice cream for hornet

[glad minnow]

Hello ss disc

[coarse leaf]

im hoping theres much harder side challenges, but the main game should probably be about the same difficulty

[opaque sigil]

I mean.... eh. Comparable, sure.

[past cradle]

yo

[trim estuary]

Hello Sam

[radiant wraith]

And some fucking cotton candy too

[uncut citrus]

Make them yourself/

ttacco silkpoint when?

Hello, Sam

[radiant wraith]

And most definitely some fucking burger

[cerulean sable]

i dont want to put an effort animating hornet

[digital tangle]

I don't think silksong would take much longer to be honest. voice acting is usually the last thing a developer would do, and as we know the voice of the main character has already been fully recorded

[cerulean sable]

thats a fucking pain

[past cradle]

being honest tho

[trim estuary]

[opaque sigil]

hornet spritesheets gonna be like 3 gigabytes

[radiant wraith]

This ain't voice acting as you know it

[glad minnow]

[past cradle]

with the delay of botw 2, I think they're saving ss for a new console

[trim estuary]

this is uh
void acting

[radiant wraith]

This voice acting doesn't need dialogue to be finished before the acting

[rapid topaz]

best thing about hollow point is being able to lift you higher in the air when firing down

[keen blaze]

The "Voice Acting" is SHAWW ADIBO GARAMA

[opaque sigil]

Hornet had voicelines in the demo so no, recording lines from the VA isn't the last thing they do

[coarse leaf]

maybe in normal games but they're just gonna reuse lines

[uncut citrus]

That doesn’t mean anything? Hornet’s voicelines are just random sounds, there isn’t any established language, so they could just make 200 different lines and fill everytimes she talks with them

[trim estuary]

Only reason that voice lines would mean that they’re close to finished is if they have unique voice lines for cutscenes

[past cradle]

depending on the amount of cutscenes and actions it could take a while

[opaque sigil]

even then it wouldn't mean that

[radiant wraith]

TL;DR it doesn't mean much

[keen blaze]

I think there is at least some sort of Bug Language, kinda.

[rapid topaz]

Hornet isn't the only one that have voice lines

[radiant wraith]

What does tldr mean anyways

[past cradle]

in summary

[uncut citrus]

Not what I was talking about

[trim estuary]

unique sound for hornet running full speed into a wall (this was in the demo)

[opaque sigil]

"too long, didn't read"

[keen blaze]

bro the message is 5 word long

[stoic path]

Let's not forget that Hornet's VA is done with her part. There is still probably more VA who had yet to finish their part.

[radiant wraith]

We don't know

[opaque sigil]

Hornet's va has probably been finished for a long time

[past cradle]

I still think its being saved for a new console

[rapid topaz]

saved?

[radiant wraith]

What?

[past cradle]

well with the situation with botw 2

[trim estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/895313683708792892/video0.mov

[rapid topaz]

oh right it's saved for the Switch Pro !

[uncut citrus]

#sk-discussion message

[digital glen]

fake, hornet speaks portuguese
guarana = Brazilian fruit
shoo = saying to a dog to go away
Edina = woman’s name

[digital tangle]

I am talking about the development stage. I might be wrong but you usually start recording voices after already building the main game. as far as I know (and I might not know much) most games use placeholders until they finish the core of the game and start adding aesthetics at the end

[stoic path]

Yeah, TC might be hiring more VAs as we speak, for juicy lorr

[coarse leaf]

wtf does saved mean

[radiant wraith]

This isn't Nintendo Sweetheart

[past cradle]

shah? egale?

[coarse leaf]

being exclusive?

[radiant wraith]

Guarana is Brazilian beverage

[coarse leaf]

also now that im awake, goodnight silksong discussion

[radiant wraith]

[trim estuary]

shoo is multi language then

[coarse leaf]

sheo is made of void

[rapid topaz]

I think they meant something like "They wait for a new console to release the game" so it's preserved until then

[stoic path]

Your pfp is a baller

[past cradle]

i just realized we don't have any nail master emojies

[opaque sigil]

[stoic path]

Isn't Switch pro also the same software? Why would they wait for the pro version? Unless SS is like 10 GB large

[past cradle]

oh dang

[digital glen]

the beverage is more famous than the fruit but Guaraná is originally a fruit

[stoic path]

Looks like ladybugs

[past cradle]

looks like a lychee

[radiant wraith]

[rapid topaz]

Idk that's not my argument was just reponding for the "saved" thing

[coarse leaf]

I mean... instead of waiting on all platforms just for the spro they could've already released for pc/xbox/ps if they had already completed it

i don't think there's any reason they wouldn't

[past cradle]

its a switch og

[opaque sigil]

they're not waiting for a new system obviously

[coarse leaf]

doesn't mean much when they can still get good sales on other platforms

[rapid topaz]

Unity is pretty much convenient to make console ports so I'm not worried about that.

[radiant wraith]

Waiting for a new console for a game that is not console exclusive seems dumb af

[stoic path]

Isn't initial release going to be on PC/Mac/Linux and Switch?

[trim estuary]

they’re waiting for fortnite to finish their side of the collab so they can release Silksong and the fortnite skin at the same time

[stoic path]

And PS4 and Xbox later?

[opaque sigil]

Switch probably also isn't going to be replaced any time soon

[past cradle]

but most video game distributers have the games made on their console first then ported later

[random fox]

Where do ppl think the beverage comes from

[radiant wraith]

Besides, the game still being in development because development takes time is not an unreasonable idea at all

[trim estuary]

Oranges

[random fox]

I see

[keen blaze]

Shhhhh

[rapid topaz]

Perhaps a new version of the switch, reimagined, but I don't think a brand new system will be out until a long time

[past cradle]

what kind of cursed skin would they make?

[coarse leaf]

TC doesnt have "their console", they arent nintendo
also they've already announced PC will be day 1

[digital glen]

Coca Cola is extracted from the earth’s core

[radiant wraith]

Shushing me?

[trim estuary]

hornet

[opaque sigil]

Supposedly the switch is considered to be approximately halfway through its lifespan as of late 2021, so it's going to be a while before it's regarded as obsolete

[past cradle]

how tho?

[trim estuary]

[past cradle]

[rapid topaz]

yeah I agree

[coarse leaf]

also TC isn't gonna benefit off not releasing it on an older console if they begun dev on that console lol

[opaque sigil]

Nor would Nintendo benefit from (or necessarily be capable of) pressuring TC to hold off on releasing

[random fox]

Coca core 😎

[coarse leaf]

they can always port it to newer ones when the newer one actually comes out, it's not like they're nintendo and will gain money by making people buy the newer one

[radiant wraith]

Well, don't judge me, Guarana could have been made with an herb like Coca Cola

[stoic path]

Game development always takes more the time you think it'll take. Want to finish a game in a year? Nope, 5 years, take it or leave it

[opaque sigil]

The flagship games for the next console are probably going to be things like zelda and mario, bigger names that are exclusive to the company

Not silksong

[past cradle]

i'm just hoping ss won't be a p5 scenario

[stoic path]

Who thinks SS will release this year?

[radiant wraith]

Pantheon of Hallownest?

[coarse leaf]

the people who think SS will release in 2022

[burnt topaz]

I dont know anymore maybe, maybe not

[stoic path]

Damn

[keen blaze]

No canon Ending if that's what you mean

[past cradle]

we're just wishing at this point

[keen blaze]

If you mean Boss Rush, I hope it have one

[radiant wraith]

It has always been wishing

[past cradle]

[rapid topaz]

Idk hard to say. It's been in development for more than 3 years now iirc so I'd say 2023 seems reasonable but that's just hopes at this point

[keen blaze]

Not with Godseekers, but maybe a noncanon mode

[coarse leaf]

howwow knyight zotbot coming in twenty never

[radiant wraith]

Do not use the pleading emoji

[burnt topaz]

[coarse leaf]

nothing seems reasonable Unless The fbi finally lets me reverse time and stalk TC so i can keep track of dev 😡

[stoic path]

Everything is releasing 2023

[radiant wraith]

I'm glad we don't have a server version

[past cradle]

AAAHH

[burnt topaz]

hello ian
i forgot you had certain tendencies towards the pleading emoji

[past cradle]

I'm still wating for botw 2

[random fox]

Ill eat ur femur

[coarse leaf]

The dead cells sprite outlines are releasing this year which is the best thing to happen in gaming history

[radiant wraith]

Well, now you remember. Also hello Amina!

[random fox]

Dead cells collabed with sprite?

[stoic path]

What is a sprite outline?

[rapid topaz]

I mean I don't really care when it releases, better let them take their time, it's an exhausting and pressuring job

[random fox]

Sprite logo

[coarse leaf]

Sprites but with an outline

[random fox]

The drink

[past cradle]

void

[coarse leaf]

No the textures

[stoic path]

Huh? What about the sprite logo? Is dead cells gonna be on the logo?

[random fox]

No the drink

[past cradle]

void sprite

[coarse leaf]

You're the drink

[radiant wraith]

Yes, because I'm sweet and tasty

[random fox]

They made a sprite skin and sprite bottle weapon

[random fox]

Im neither

Ppl arent sweet in general its more a savory flavour, and they arent tasty

[coarse leaf]

Basically now i'll finally be able to know that the protagonist is different from random fucking walls at 3am

[radiant wraith]

You are not the drink, you are the snack

[vocal stirrup]

I get that TC is just trying to avoid crunch time but I beg that they maybe atleast release a demo (maybe a polished version of the e3 demo) so we can all get hyped maybe please 🥺

[radiant wraith]

Nah

[random fox]

Too big to be a snack, maybe a lunch

[vocal stirrup]

Dinner

[radiant wraith]

Very well then, you are lunch

[rapid topaz]

Quick reminder that TC don't owe you anything
just in prevention

[random fox]

Dinner works too

[coarse leaf]

How do you know they're avoiding crunch time tbh

[radiant wraith]

I don't know if TC is avoiding crunchtime

[random fox]

Quick reminder that pointing out obvious things isnt that amazing

[radiant wraith]

I wouldn't be surprised at all if they are crunching already

Which is sad I guess

[opaque sigil]

somebody has said that they have done that in the past, can't recall who

[random fox]

Mfs be like "they will release ss when its ready" like bruh

[rapid topaz]

Hah you're right on that

[radiant wraith]

Please TC, take a break!

[coarse leaf]

They owe me hornet void lore in zot70boat

[radiant wraith]

We can wait

[random fox]

Reported for toxicity and harassment

[past cradle]

i will turn u into lean

[coarse leaf]

Can't turn lean into lean

[random fox]

I hate lean

[radiant wraith]

Please TC sleep 8 hours a day and spend time with your families

[random fox]

No

[past cradle]

💜

[radiant wraith]

Lean is a cool language

[past cradle]

L E A N

[random fox]

22 hour work day with 2h sleep, food and drinks are optional

[radiant wraith]

It has the axiom keyword, isn't that cool?

[keen blaze]

OmG thAt UndeRtaLe ReFerEncE ?!!!11111

[coarse leaf]

Void Tea is also banned

[random fox]

Void briish ppl malding

[rapid topaz]

140 hours of work a week, 50 streches every days, 100 km running every monthes

[random fox]

Id prefer no movement outside of programming

Whats the lowest amount of sleep a person can live with

[rapid topaz]

Depends

If you want to live 2 weeks or not

[past cradle]

5-6 hours i think

rough estimate

you would still be really tired tho

[radiant wraith]

Truthfully and seriously now:
If they want to crunch, I guess that's fine if it's their decision. Passion and a wish to keep going with the project.
What is awful is trying to push Team Cherry to work faster and finish faster, much worse if it actually works and TC starts crunching just to deliver the game quicker.

[keen blaze]

0-0 hours, quickly followed by lack of alive

[random fox]

Ok since they dont need to survive after ss release its gonna be 2h sleep every day, with automatic feeders and water being delivered directly into them with a tube, and no movement outside of programming which they will do 22h a day

[radiant wraith]

Wanting TC to hurry? Wtf are you asking them to do?

Work more? Is that it?

[opaque sigil]

"Just release it now and finish it in updates"
(something that has been said unironically)

[random fox]

Look at message above

[radiant wraith]

Cool

[random fox]

Average twitter user

[rapid topaz]

"patch 3.0 : Hey we've finally added the final boss of the game"

[opaque sigil]

monster hunter rise moment

[random fox]

Final boss is graig

[coarse leaf]

Ah yes

[keen blaze]

Good, I've been stuck on the door where everytime I passed it the Game Softlocked

[random fox]

What if the real ss is just rocs odyssey

[coarse leaf]

Imagine new save data format every update

[past cradle]

my eyes couldn't handle that

[radiant wraith]

I think Team Cherry probably don't let themselves get pushed around by the communities complaints. But imagine if you were them and you have so many people complaining at you like that.

[coarse leaf]

And there's godhome
And completionists

[opaque sigil]

I mean what they seem to do is just avoid perceiving that as much as possible which is probably the best call

[random fox]

TC are in a bunker with no connection to outer world so the messages dont get to them

[past cradle]

how would you rate god home? 1-10?

[rapid topaz]

high 7

[opaque sigil]

3 ig

[random fox]

10 cuz thats how many times it took me to beat poh

[rapid topaz]

or 8

[radiant wraith]

4

[opaque sigil]

HoG is a fine QoL feature but pantheons are unremarkable

[keen blaze]

Nah they're in Australia and they don't fall due to the silk holding them, we've discussed that already.

[rapid topaz]

(I feel like godhome is a very controversial content update)

[random fox]

I think its fun, poh is really the only shitty thing

[keen blaze]

I think it's fun, no downsides

[past cradle]

poh?

[keen blaze]

P5

[radiant wraith]

It breaks pacing if you find it before finishing the game

[still owl]

It is, it’s still one of the best parts of the game for me.

[random fox]

U shouldnt need to do a boss if u beat it like 3 times in a row, so if u got to markoth 3 tries in a row ur runs should just start from there

[wispy stream]

@chrome imp im downloading omori

[radiant wraith]

Yes, but you can still enter and try some pantheons

[random fox]

Dont u like uhh need to beat radiance for it

[past cradle]

ok, the fights are very boring, but very good story, message, and art style

[crisp drift]

Godhome... gameplay wise HoG is good, not the best
pantheons are kinda just there with PoH being painful

but the worst thing is of course, TC introduced a game mode that gives a hell lot of headache lore wise

[radiant wraith]

Don't think so

[daring hemlock]

Any new news on silks song or shall I crawl back in to my moist cave

[rapid topaz]

well with the "It's just more content, nothing mandatory" in mind I think it's all good. Godhome does very well.
but with the "it's a tedious way to complete 112%" side I can agree aswell.

[keen blaze]

no

[radiant wraith]

I just wish it was just the separate gamemode, I don't like it being connected to the main game

[keen blaze]

1. no
2. they were talking about Godseeker, not p5

[random fox]

I wish PoP and p5 gave a %

[coarse leaf]

5 for the bosses and hog

[wispy stream]

no spoilers please
im downloading it as that person said i might like it i just wanted them to know im playing it lmao

[random fox]

Ah ok

[past cradle]

ok

[small goblet]

hornet dies, have a good time

[crisp drift]

NO
P5 gives % is one of the worst thing you can do, imo

[keen blaze]

No, cause the achievement would feel less meaningfull with "Pure Completion"

[coarse leaf]

even tho a lot of pantheon bosses could have been placed outside godhome

[rapid topaz]

It is for me aswell. I had a lot of fun in it so I can't really give it a bad note

[still owl]

P5 doesn’t give percent

[random fox]

Wdym?

[radiant wraith]

What is this about?

[daring hemlock]

the sealed siblings ending doesn’t necessarily confirm that

[cerulean sable]

this is the 2nd time weve been in a dungeon like this

[keen blaze]

Well it wouldn't be the "Hardest" Achievement (according to most peoples)

[random fox]

New dababy event in fortnite

[coarse leaf]

pantheons should have been a configurable gamemode where you can "queue" bosses, the godhome music should've been optional, and the cool bosses shouldn't have been gated behind doing every other boss 2+ times

[still owl]

Same here, I enjoyed the brutal challenge that was all bindings

[past cradle]

why do u hate urself?

[rapid topaz]

Yep same lol

[radiant wraith]

Bindings just seems unfun

[random fox]

They arent tho? Outside of pantheons u can do a boss without going tru others

[still owl]

Nah, called pushing and improving

[radiant wraith]

Or slow rather

[rapid topaz]

I guess it's just subjective