sk-discussion

[mint valve]

ah

[cerulean sable]

also marketing

[cunning geode]

if Silksong was the first game then a follow up would have been called "Silksong: 'second game'" or whatever because then people know what fictional setting it is immediately

[mint valve]

true

[cerulean sable]

Hell i remember a year later after SS revealed

[agile kelp]

Silksong:Hollow knight

[cerulean sable]

ive seen comments going
"Whats your favorite game youve played this 2020?"
"Hollow Knight, really loved the world and the atmosphere"
"Yeah same, cant wait for Silksong"
"What's Silksong
Edit: Fuck i never knew i needed a sequel in my entire life, how the fuck didnt i know about this"

now imagine if they didnt put Hollow Knight in the title

[mint valve]

I need sequal to masterpiece game

[haughty brook]

They would think Silksong is a very elaborated mod on HK lol.

[cerulean sable]

obligatory

[mint valve]

yes

[brave stone]

To bad he is no where near 112% and Silksong is forever away

[cerulean sable]

today is the year

[brave stone]

Who knows

[crisp drift]

just got Kingsoul xD

[mint valve]

I know there is no other game like hollow knight. who was cheap, big, and so much fun. hopefully silksong will be better

[digital glen]

I think i know the answer, but would you guys preffer a release date now, or that silksong shadowdropped

[stiff burrow]

It depends how far away the date would be

[brave stone]

I would like a date show drop has always seemed anti hype to me

[high hedge]

I’d prefer a date, for hype

[stiff burrow]

If it's a shadow drop now or a date in 2 years I'd take the shadow drop but if the date is in a few weeks then the date

[brave stone]

Also Jesmon forever 😛 no ban on savior huck please 😛

[mint valve]

I paid 40 bucks for security breach and got 10 hours of glitches and hiding

[digital glen]

Wow, i really tought that people preffered the shadowdrop

[stiff burrow]

I heard nothing but bad things about security breach

[digital glen]

What made Hollow Knight for me was going into the game without knowing anything

Wish that could also happen to silksong

[mint valve]

because 3% of it is fun

[stiff burrow]

This is why I don't want more Silksong news except the release date

Knowing more will make it less interesting to play

[brave stone]

Like Leth as the marketing guy and TC know the date IS the biggest deal so why not use that to drive more sales?

[digital glen]

Probably yes

[mint valve]

yea fact

[coral glacier]

Silksong will come tomorrow

[brave stone]

yes tomorrow for sure

[digital glen]

This is why i think the shadowdrop is completely off the table

[stiff burrow]

Well... technically shadowdropping is just announcing the release date is today

[brave stone]

IDK my current theory is IF the Geforce leak is close to right we MAY get the date in a early start of the year direct because there usually is one

[stiff burrow]

Yea but it's usually in February not January

[mint valve]

or march at most

or least

[brave stone]

could still happen Nintendo was not at the game awards

really

so they may want to start the year with a bang

[stiff burrow]

They marketed some already announced games in a few recycled trailers. Amazing.
Who knows, predicting Nintendo never works out

[chilly nexus]

As much as I don't want to wait till the summer given the perfect timing of SS coming out sooner rather than later with the new lockdowns and covid sitch worsening, I'm reserving most of my hope for E3, but by all means, another avenue for release news could exist

[rapid slate]

Somente knows a game like hollow knight

[brave stone]

I mean TC anin't gonna say stuff so trying to guess Nintendo is far better

[stoic path]

I doubt it'll shadowdrop, but since the HK launch trailer was released just 2 weeks before the release date, I'm gonna assume TC would do something similar with SS.

[mint valve]

Good Knight

[stiff burrow]

You mean a game similar to it?
Best I got is Ori or Ender Lilies or Rain World. They all have differences though

[stoic path]

Rain world is a metroidvania?

[stiff burrow]

Yea

I would say so

[stoic path]

Doesn't seem like one, you just explore a world around without any end goals

[mint valve]

yes

I've played

[brave stone]

Crowsworn which will be out before Silksong likely 😛

[stiff burrow]

Well it's still similar to HK in the way that you explore a huge world in a platformer

[rapid slate]

I kinda like aeterna noctis, but is too bad The animation and The sprites

[stoic path]

Me too, not a huge fan of the game, but it does have its own merits as something unique.

[cerulean sable]

ive played too much dark-ish metroidvanias at this point

so Silksong's setting is gonna be a vacation

except the vacation is headed to a tropical island where theres a civil war going on

[high hedge]

Visiting Haiti in the year…

[stiff burrow]

Oh and while it's not really Metroidvania, Reventure is funny

[high hedge]

Turns out I was thinking of the Haitian revolution

[serene chasm]

since we were speaking about character silhouettes before

[haughty brook]

Also religious fanatisim

[cerulean sable]

true true

[cerulean sable]

i love ari's char design

[shy kiln]

There is a Nailsmith in SS, yeah?

[haughty brook]

I love the idea of HK world as a concept in general, a truly surreal fanatsy world full of non humans which is kinda of wierd to think about it.

[rigid nest]

would they really announce their release date in a Nintendo event or just drop it on their channel and such?

[opaque sigil]

They could do either

[high hedge]

Peak in the right anthill and you can enter Hallownest like Narnia

[shy kiln]

Guys, anyone?

[high hedge]

But it just becomes the plot of The Ant Bully

[rigid nest]

i still find it suspicious that there wasnt any sort of update or news December

[dense cove]

there's forge daughter who makes tools. no actual nailsmith is known as per right now though(?)

[high hedge]

Maybe they’re waiting for an opportunity where they’re ready to release more news all at once

[shy kiln]

Oh, alright

[rigid nest]

yeah thats what im thinking or that they got bigger plans than a small update

[high hedge]

Sounds plausible enough

[rigid nest]

if the game was still another year out maybe then wed hear from them in december. Feels like were coming closer to the finish line

not that they owe us updates its just odd to break a pattern just feels intentional

Im just shocked by how fast time is going... soon we'll be reminiscing on all of this build up

[serene chasm]

You seem to have a good attitude about it. It's nice to see

[stiff burrow]

But also of course we get closer to the finish line. That's how waiting for something usually works

[silver oak]

Guess who's back

[serene chasm]

Necro's back. Tell a friend

[silver oak]

aka guess who lost their phone on a ski slope and hasn't been online in 2 days

[serene chasm]

oof. That sucks

[silver oak]

....

it was me

it's fine, it happens

[gritty heron]

I hope silksong fixes the late-game currency usage problem

[silver oak]

most likely using replenishing items

[gritty heron]

Ik shell shards will still be useful but i'm worried about the rosaries

[silver oak]

things that can be bought or have to be used over and over again, not just one time purchases

possibly consumables

I feel like the fleas would give you potions or some shit

[serene chasm]

Thats what Im thinking as well.

[opaque sigil]

Buying shell shards would be reasonable

Potions and things probably don't exist imo

[silver oak]

how do you know

[gritty heron]

Oh yeah that might be

[ocean mulch]

I like how the big skull crawler is a soul and shell shard refill

[opaque sigil]

Why would they. What purpose would that serve as a separate thing from red tools

[serene chasm]

their caravan boasts a bounty of flavourful
food, powerful drinks and some surprising amenities
???

[opaque sigil]

As tools

We literally see a drink that is a red tool

[silver oak]

hmmmmm
yeah that seems pretty potion-y to me

[silver oak]

you mean the syringe?

[haughty brook]

I can think lifeblood syringe and the bottle of orange liquid as an example for possible flea reward.

[ocean mulch]

The syringe isn't a drink

[silver oak]

we don't know what that is tho

[stiff burrow]

Orange juice!

[opaque sigil]

It's a bottle with a stopper

[silver oak]

anyway, replenishable items
probably

[opaque sigil]

Either Hornet pours one out for the homies or it's a drink

[ocean mulch]

It kinds looks like a bottle made from a berry or sth

[silver oak]

waste of a drink

[haughty brook]

Lifeblood is a liquid and who can't say the flea caravan has drug deals.

[serene chasm]

A potion could be something in hornets inventory and not a tool per say

[opaque sigil]

And how would that be used

[silver oak]

if you chug it the power is stronger but it locks you out of the game for a few hours

[split tide]

Could be a finite resource replenished at benches or certain stops

[serene chasm]

you go to it, select it, and use it, and then it gives you a buff for a short time

[opaque sigil]

Opening the inventory screen in combat is a nonstarter, not only did that not pause in demo, but it would be horribly distracting from combat

[serene chasm]

You dont open it during combat

[split tide]

Like the usual glugging 10 buff potions before a boss

[opaque sigil]

There's also no reason to have that, it would be redundant with red tools

[serene chasm]

you do it before to prepare for a fight

[opaque sigil]

Fights aren't always predictable

[silver oak]

I assume you select it before combat, and then are able to use it from the normal game ui during combat

[opaque sigil]

So like a red tool

[serene chasm]

Like a temp fragile strength

[silver oak]

shut up and let me have my drink

[serene chasm]

drunk hornet please

[ocean mulch]

Guys fleshmancer confirmed we have the crest system and the kitchen system

[haughty brook]

I think all consumable items are going for the red tool category

[silver oak]

I did?

[opaque sigil]

Insofar as those are consumables, probably

[ocean mulch]

Dunno how shell shards are supposed to repair every tool

Is hornet using transfiguration

[opaque sigil]

There are also things like rosary strings though, and maybe some sorta rancid egg analogue

[ocean mulch]

What are organs

[opaque sigil]

In the spirit of the rosary strings, there could be an item that instantly restores the rosaries currently sitting in a cocoon

[haughty brook]

Open your chest and find out/jk

[silver oak]

My assumption is that TC is trying their hardest to simplify everything, so a lot of what we think about will not be as complicated in the final game

[opaque sigil]

One would assume so, having a needlessly complicated game would be bad design

[ocean mulch]

Oh really? Then tell me why does the bobbin not light up sometimes when we have full silk

[opaque sigil]

Being at full health

[silver oak]

graphical bug?

oh true
yeah probably

[opaque sigil]

What that icon is is an indicator of whether you can bind, you can't bind at full health

You'll also see, if you look through the Edge screenshots, that they're all consistent with that

It's only lit if Hornet has the silk to bind and is missing at least one mask

ie under circumstances where she can bind

[silver oak]

there are a few bars that are shorter than the one you start out with, which seems confusing

[haughty brook]

I'm intersted how Grindle (the thief) system will be designed. Does the player can select what info they want to hear/read before paying him?

[ocean mulch]

Oh you're right
So they changed it from how HK works

[silver oak]

they may have just made it shorter, unless we saw a super early game scene in EDGE

[opaque sigil]

They changed it even from the demo, it didn't have that feature

[ocean mulch]

The demo is really just a demo

It'll be interesting to see the final product

They changed crests too from to trailer

It's a mystery wether they did that during riddle days or they just used the wanderer crest

[haughty brook]

Still waiting more info on how the Huntress and Grindle gimmicks gonna work in the final game.

[ocean mulch]

For some reason I don't have a bell town screenshot

[digital glen]

Sekiro has this kinda of stuff

[ocean mulch]

Grindle is very clear
You pay him for info

[opaque sigil]

Huntress just seems like a fetch quest giver

[ocean mulch]

Grander Gather

[digital glen]

Sekiro has both random info that you can pay, and specific info that you can buy

I guess it's gonna work like that

[ocean mulch]

And nothing grindle says will be helpful

[digital glen]

I can easily imagine how it would work

I wonder if there other NPC's that you can buy info

[haughty brook]

Well yeah, I know that, but its going to be randon like or the player can select what info they want to hear. Also, could Grindle do other functions related to his "profession" as a thief, like maybe opening some doors or even seeling dispoable simple keys like the ones in HK?

[fringe pulsar]

[digital glen]

Would be funny if Grindle leads you in a deathtrap

[opaque sigil]

Having repeatably purchasable simple keys would defeat their purpose

[digital glen]

We don't know yet

[fringe pulsar]

who is henrick

[serene chasm]

fan name for this fella

[wheat sail]

delicious

[proud vale]

Kiki

[haughty brook]

Background object number 20857

[proud vale]

Something that sounds like Jiji

[hidden gulch]

jejune

[opaque sigil]

Lunch

(emote is part of the name)

[digital glen]

chunky boy

Is that from the gif of the fleas?

[haughty brook]

Yes

[digital glen]

So i guess this their ride

There werent many bugs that other bugs ride in HK

I recall now only the Stag

Oh the God Tamer as well

We've seen two in silksong so far i think

[haughty brook]

I would call the creature that the God Tamer rode more of a wild animal while the Stag was more of a "thinking" bug.

[digital glen]

Well, Zaza seems to be more inteligent than Garmon

But we don't know if it talks

[digital glen]

And this one we have no idea

What even is a wild animal in the world of hk

[haughty brook]

Thinks like gruz mother and similar kind of creatures like the tik tik are the wild animals of hk

[primal hill]

Humpy

[high hedge]

Hmmmm

Think we’ll get more lifeblood lore?

[serene chasm]

maybe. everything is a maybe

[high hedge]

I think so, definitely more opportunities to dive deeper considering it persists into Pharloom

Perhaps learning what that big creature was

[fringe pulsar]

Oh

[solemn thorn]

NIntendo Direct in february

[serene chasm]

Imagine thinking we'll get anything from a direct

[solemn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-rogers-nightmare-clown-gif-5401671

[solemn thorn]

Hollow knight 5th anniversery

[serene chasm]

ok. Because TC is always doing something for HKs anniversary. And if they did, they would probably just do it on their own with a blogpost.

[solemn thorn]

m

[glossy jackal]

I just want more void/pale/essence lore, we literally got like 2 words from pale king and like 3 phrases from WL

[polar marsh]

When is that

[fleet temple]

24th feb

[solemn thorn]

The day Hollow Knight realesed

[fringe pulsar]

Was there anything from TC in feb of 2021?

[fleet temple]

no

[fringe pulsar]

What about 2020

[serene chasm]

nope

[glossy jackal]

TC has no voice to speak

[serene chasm]

They dont really do anniversary posts. They did one for the 2 year, in March

[solemn thorn]

m

[fringe pulsar]

Don’t care what anybody says, I’ve said it last year and I’ll say it again, this year is the one.

[analog lily]

well 5 years is a big milestone

[glossy jackal]

Replace year with child and you got PK

[serene chasm]

They might do something, sure. But I wouldnt expect it in February

[solemn thorn]

everyone should get the role ripbozo

[analog lily]

well it could just be an anniversary post, and not SS

[solemn thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-rogers-nightmare-clown-gif-5401671

kill me

[glossy jackal]

We live under the assumption that SS is actually being developed right now

[ocean mulch]

Does someone have a bell town edge shot

[serene chasm]

Just show up after 2 years and post about HK.

[fringe pulsar]

pk, pale king

[ocean mulch]

👍

[solemn thorn]

Atleast Bendy and the dark revival is coming out next month

[fringe pulsar]

Wait is that his name, is his name pale king

[analog lily]

who the pale king, cause that's his name yes

[glossy jackal]

The one from hallownest, yes, father of hornet who will likely not be mentioned at all in ss

Because despite being raised by a god Hornet only ever cared about herra

[solemn thorn]

a god who is a dumbass

[serene chasm]

PK wasnt really involved with Hornet's upbringing

He just banged her mom and peaced

[solemn thorn]

m

[fringe pulsar]

white palace

[glossy jackal]

How do you know this again?

[solemn thorn]

Isnt that a jojo refference

[analog lily]

tc would never make a jojo refrence

[solemn thorn]

Did you read part 6

[serene chasm]

everything is a jojo reference

[rotund aurora]

Pretty sure white lady was mostly involved. Pale King could've been tho, just not stated/

[solemn thorn]

yep

[analog lily]

No
i've never read jojo but i can tell you tc wouldn't make a refrence

[glossy jackal]

WL was only involved in the creation of the vessels, Hornet was likely raised by PK since herrah became a dreamer

[solemn thorn]

They did with pale king

and herra

[analog lily]

well WL did raise hornet as seen in the nursery room

[fringe pulsar]

What

[solemn thorn]

Hey you know another game that i have been wating for since 2019 botw 2

[opaque sigil]

Neither WL nor PK raised Hornet, she was a gift to deepnest in accordance with the terms of their arrangement

[glossy jackal]

Fair enough

[fringe pulsar]

What about Vespa

[opaque sigil]

She had nothing to do with Hornet

[fringe pulsar]

What

[analog lily]

well there is a theory about vespa training hornet, but there's basically no evidence

[solemn thorn]

go watch mossbag dammit

[fringe pulsar]

I do, I just forgot

[coral glacier]

mossbag is great

[glossy jackal]

Mossbag doesn't have the final say on the lore

[solemn thorn]

m

[analog lily]

tell that to the majojrity of the hk community

[coral glacier]

mossbag is our only lore youtuber

[fringe pulsar]

The name hornet though

[solemn thorn]

you guys gonna buy the new bendy game?

[analog lily]

a happy coincidence

[agile kelp]

Theres matpat

[coral glacier]

Off topic and no

[glossy jackal]

Hk community is an echo chamber, it's filled with game theorists

[shell yacht]

less than zero evidence. three queens idea is contradicted by game logic

[coral glacier]

[analog lily]

oh god just shut up

[fringe pulsar]

lol mossbag made a video on matpat

[coral glacier]

Matpat isnt real, he cant huet you

[serene chasm]

It is?

[feral tusk]

where is this from

[solemn thorn]

he fucked up the lore. But he is a good youtuber

[hidden stone]

No just no

[coral glacier]

Silksong

[serene chasm]

One of the screenshots from the edge article from last year

[analog lily]

well yes he makes good theories
but makes a lot more bad ones

[feral tusk]

[solemn thorn]

ratio

[feral tusk]

thanks

[analog lily]

this isn't twitter remember

[fringe pulsar]

[feral tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/enel-one-piece-ratio-declined-gif-23865218

[glossy jackal]

You sure about that?

Try saying the knight is hollow in lore chat

[analog lily]

well...
no

[hidden stone]

Too lazy

[fringe pulsar]

Try saying that five times

[feral tusk]

hk lore chat giving you at least 57 reasons that zote is actually hollow, not the knight

[shell yacht]

try getting muted

[glossy jackal]

You mean cancelled?

[shell yacht]

no i mean muted

[agile kelp]

This may be ss chat but its not a mental assylum

[feral tusk]

debatable

[solemn thorn]

why is this community like this

[fringe pulsar]

Ass

[glossy jackal]

because no silksong

lore starvation

[solemn thorn]

ok then can't you guys just wait

[agile kelp]

We're also just naturally like this
Its in our nature

[split tide]

You expect people here to be remotely sane

[hidden stone]

No

[solemn thorn]

a little longer'

[feral tusk]

feb 1st, yes or no

[solemn thorn]

Iv been waiting for botw 2 for 5 years

[fringe pulsar]

If ss doesn’t release right now I will do absolutely nothing

[glossy jackal]

I mean, people probably would if there was any reliable estimate on when silksong can come out

[solemn thorn]

I have no sanity

[serene chasm]

Not buy it?

[analog lily]

been waiting for the sequel of the game before it was released
makes sense

[agile kelp]

What the hell is sanity? There's only copium

[hidden stone]

Do you people want a random question about hollow knight or not

[solemn thorn]

wait how old are you?

You should know what sanity means

[analog lily]

sure

[hidden stone]

How many of you people think hornet is void

[agile kelp]

I am of legal age to be using discord?

[hidden stone]

Let’s see where this goes

[solemn thorn]

100% waifu 0% Void

[feral tusk]

100% frend, 0% anything else

[solemn thorn]

Your 11 aren't you

[analog lily]

i can guarantee 1
not me though
trust me

[agile kelp]

No

[hidden stone]

I was just watching that video mossbag made

[analog lily]

tbh no is a kinda childish name but idk

[solemn thorn]

nice

[fringe pulsar]

Not our fault team cherry created such an interesting world

[agile kelp]

Its really just an inside joke between some irl friends

[hidden stone]

Yeah it is

[fringe pulsar]

Nothing happened

[cerulean sable]

i felt the top of direct fall off
hype everyone in there

[glossy jackal]

imagine that whenever silksong comes out nobody is interested anymore

[hidden stone]

I will wait until i am dead

[solemn thorn]

accurate

[glossy jackal]

TC should really be hyping this shit up to maximize earnings

And to have a reliable playerbase ofc

[hidden stone]

By the way has anyone noticed that on the trial thingys have roserys on them

[ocean mulch]

Ah yes let's hype up a game for two years

[solemn thorn]

Does anyone still watch lego ninjago?

[glossy jackal]

Some games did it for way way more time

Teaser trailers sneak peeks official community interactions

Random lore drops

[opaque sigil]

Eh, only reason to do that is if you need to

[shell yacht]

[opaque sigil]

Giving away information about the game can be counterproductive, especially for a game about exploration

[shell yacht]

im gettin me pasta

WhAt iS tC doIn tHeYrE killiNg tHe HypE fOr tHiS gAmE i CaNt sHuTuP AbOuT

[fringe pulsar]

At the least a check in would be nice or even a hello

[opaque sigil]

TC also doesn't have the manpower to keep up constant publicity without development suffering

[hidden stone]

English

[opaque sigil]

Not really

"Hello" doesn't really mean much of anything

[fringe pulsar]

Dude

[kind drum]

they didn't announce it 5 years ago though

[fringe pulsar]

They haven’t made a blog post in two years

[opaque sigil]

That's fine

[glossy jackal]

Literally have someone once a month interact with the community, or even do stuff for the anniversary's

[fringe pulsar]

Yeah so a hello would definitely be something

[opaque sigil]

Not like blog posts are the only sort of info anyways

[opaque sigil]

That's inane and time consuming

[grim forge]

leth

[opaque sigil]

But Leth and Graig are here a good amount so you get what you want anyways

[kind drum]

pain.

[hidden stone]

Is cool

[grim forge]

everytime you see leth in chat you're getting it

[solemn thorn]

yes they did

[opaque sigil]

So that was like 5 days ago

[split tide]

Edge was last year, and that was bigger than a blog post

[hidden stone]

Well sometimes less is more

[opaque sigil]

It's been five days since Leth has shown up to say hi

[grim forge]

silksong cancelled!!!!!!

[opaque sigil]

So clearly no, you wouldn't give a shit if they showed up once a month, since they already do it more than that

[split tide]

TC doesn’t “have” to do anything in any case, except potentially to actually deliver silksong for backers

[opaque sigil]

Sure it's Leth and not Ari, William, or Jack, but that's not what you specified

[shell yacht]

every member of TC could say hi in this chat and youd all be bitching again in twelve hours

[opaque sigil]

.

[grim forge]

true lmao

[hidden stone]

Righty

[kind drum]

they retweeted in november? lol

they still alive then

[wheat sail]

I shoulda got some pajama pants

[hidden stone]

Thats good

I hope we get some good music for silksong

[wheat sail]

Most likely at least a few bangers

[prime hull]

Still waiting....

[wheat sail]

20XX

[silver oak]

they were long gone by this point

and yes, I do realize it was only 2 minutes

as soon as they had any sort of pushback they were gone

[serene chasm]

Comparison of the different HUDs shown in the edge screenshots

[silver oak]

you finished

or did you finish before and I haven't seen the full thing yet

[tawdry valley]

Very nice

[silver oak]

are the top ones from the trailer?

[serene chasm]

I had one made before, but it was very unorganized.

Nope. all edge screenshots

[barren roost]

twelve minutes more like (god I can't read)

[silver oak]

the wonder of hyperbole

[reef scarab]

You’ve also had like three games in between then lol

[unreal whale]

Wdym "pain"?

[formal kelp]

2 years ago

[unreal whale]

Oh. I didn't notice that. I thought that was recent, tbh.

[open abyss]

One month till February. And maybe we will see some news

Or not

[pastel nebula]

[rough skiff]

Nah probably less waiting time if the release date is true (probably not) gotta rekindle the silksong train with an announcement 1-2 weeks before release, so potentially news next week

[rocky jewel]

Possibly some news in the first Nintendo Direct which could happen between February-April

[sage glade]

based on what

[sage glade]

i have a hunch that limiting your spool like that is probably an analogue to overcharming

at least i think those small notches on the spool are limits. they showed a version with a bead on the spool before

[cerulean sable]

Obligatory Silksong gotta up their bloom game

[sinful flare]

brightness 200%

[chilly nexus]

I'm probably gonna remote play silksong on my phone just for the juicy OLED display

[fluid orchid]

Got a switch OLED, I can do that as well

[chilly nexus]

tbh i want one just for SS

[surreal crown]

I'm in a similar train of thought

Normally I'm pretty skeptical of wishful thinking, but for some reason news in February / March just feels right.

[sinful flare]

Just hope you got a good internet

[surreal crown]

That thumbnail in the Nvidia leak keeps me wondering. If it's true then Silksong will be one of the games available to stream for 'GeForce Now'. I just think it would be weird to claim that a game that isn't even out yet is available for your streaming service if it wasn't planned for.

And there are still loads of games not on 'GeForce Now', so it's not like it's a proactive measure that includes all upcoming releases.

[signal crag]

Is that thumbnail official material?

[surreal crown]

Yeah. fireb0rn's video covers it about halfway through (I think).

I haven't really seen anyone else talk much about it

[signal crag]

That’s an interesting insight, but for now i’m on the “everyone just likes to mess with us” mood

[sage glade]

the data isn't really related to geforce now. if you ever worked with any nvidia games tech like for example dlss, your game would show up in the data

[modest night]

oh yeah were there games with a dec 2021 date in the leak

[surreal crown]

Hmm? I was talking about a thumbnail found in the Nvidia leak.

[modest night]

easy way to check if we'll get anything

or was it only about 2022

[sage glade]

hm must have misunderstood. which thumbnail?

[surreal crown]

Both 2021 and 2022. Most dates seem to have been speculative, as Nvidia claimed, but I also don't know how many of them had an attached thumbnail like the one Silksong had. It would be useful information, but.... I'm not gonna be the one to go and get it

[modest night]

so were any of the 2021 dates correct?

[surreal crown]

A thumbnail found in the Nvidia leak that has "GeForce Now" over the title image of silksong.

[modest night]

smh i'm not getting it either

too much effort

but someone should

[surreal crown]

I went through some of them and yeah. Some were right, others weren't. Some games that leaked weren't even announced yet.

One game got a release date a month later and was on the exact date listed.

[modest night]

so yeah 100% confirms it's the devs' placeholder dates and there is no reason to believe it'll be the release date for ss 🥴

oh well you can hope chat

[surreal crown]

[lost coyote]

well it's always dependent on the individual situation with the devs and the game itself, but yeah it looks to be more likely to be a placeholder

[surreal crown]

And a placeholder from the devs doesn't mean that they won't keep adding things, thus prolonging the release date

[sage glade]

most likely when submitting a game, nvidia requires you to put in some date, doesn't have to be accurate at all

[lost coyote]

Feburary still seems like a plausible time they'd want to release Silksong though, perhaps they wanted to aim for February but werent sure when exactly so just put 1st

[surreal crown]

February is also the date for HK, so they could've just put that month if they anticipated they'd be finished sometime early next year this year. Feb. 1st in particular is definitely a placeholder date.

[lost coyote]

yep, and also February is when they released the silksong trailer

[signal crag]

We are pretty sure it’s a placeholder, since it’s the first of the month

[drowsy isle]

what do you mean the game won't be shadowdropped next month

[signal crag]

But if it’s a completely meaningless date, that’s to be seen

[surreal crown]

voiddropped

[fleet temple]

Shade dropped

[lost coyote]

it would make a lot of sense if team cherry dropped silksong into the void

[analog forge]

Descending drop

[sage glade]

desolate drop

[formal kelp]

the date itself is a placeholder, but the timeframe (aka around february) can be accurate, we dont know

[alpine zephyr]

bro i just got dm advertised for a nft server XD

[fleet temple]

yeah, the nvidia thing being a placeholder doesn't deconfirm feb but we'll have to see what happens then

[formal kelp]

it confirms more than it deconfirms but we cant know

[cerulean sable]

im not even putting any basis or weight on the nvidia leak on feb, im here more or less just for the anniversary

[fleet temple]

true

[alpine zephyr]

school work yay

nearly done tho only history test

[coarse leaf]

yoow what's poppin' January Jesters

[feral tusk]

February fools waiting for feb 1st

[sacred stratus]

June jollies

[edgy sleet]

silksong coems out on the 4th of feb, because, i mean like why not

[cerulean sable]

July Justiciars

[fiery coral]

June Jejunes

[coarse leaf]

I just bet on a direct in feb, March will be the date prob

[formal kelp]

silksong trailer: 14th feb
hk release: 24th feb
ss release: 34th feb?

sounds about right to me

[coarse leaf]

Like 21st March would be cool cause thats my birthday

Like thats ever gonna happen

[cunning geode]

The release date has to come out on someone’s birthday

[cerulean sable]

and we need to kill em

[fleet temple]

and the game will release on someone else's birthday

[formal kelp]

we sacrifice all those born in february if ss doesnt release

repeat for every month until december 2022 when we all die

[tropic mica]

I think trailer in feb and release on hk birtday, or trailer on hk birthday is the most probable is something where to happen in feb

[formal kelp]

if not, cope

[tropic mica]

Don't you mean repeat till january, or do we sacrifise those in advance to please TC

[formal kelp]

yes.

[untold raptor]

anyone know if the rumours about ss being released in feb are true?

[formal kelp]

no one knows

[untold raptor]

Don’t forget to draw the pentagrams

[cunning geode]

It’s been almost a year since February, so I’d say no

[tropic mica]

Well we have leak, so not sure, but some other games in that leak where True, but feb 1 is a weird data so not sure

[fleet temple]

The only issue with a feb release is that elden ring and horizin forbidden west come out in that month, so ss might be overshadowed
if that is true then I could see them releasing in march and announcing in feb
that is assuming that they are actually releasing soon, of course

[formal kelp]

does overshadowing really matter

[heavy magnet]

silksong will crush them

[formal kelp]

having a bunch of games come out early 2022 would be a good thing, probably

[coarse leaf]

i dont think TC cares if it gets overshadowed by anything but leth might convince them to release it later idk

[tropic mica]

Hmmm yes that could be True, but bepending on the state they could choose to launch early feb in so People play ss before those games since both horizon and elden ring are massive and probaly not being finished in a month

[formal kelp]

but TC are unpredictable so

[untold raptor]

wait another thing will ss come to mac bc steam shows only windows

[tropic mica]

This

[fleet temple]

I think they said it will come to mac

[untold raptor]

oh okay good i won't need to go broke for ss

soooo how many sacrifices do we have?

[tropic mica]

At least 30000

[cobalt fog]

February

[untold raptor]

seems like a good amount

how many of them are born on a blood moon tho?

[alpine zephyr]

ello

[untold raptor]

hello hooman

[alpine zephyr]

hooman i think u have mistaken me

for i am grub god

[untold raptor]

then explain grub anatomy to me

[alpine zephyr]

no u wont understand

[untold raptor]

i need answers

[alpine zephyr]

hahahahahahahahaha no

[untold raptor]

[alpine zephyr]

ima play hollow knight on scratch XD

[untold raptor]

ooo

that's nice

i totally didn't forget what scratch was

[alpine zephyr]

I WON WOO

i am gonna send the poer of all 46 grubs on my dog cus he is just banging at the door and when i open he runs away

[untold raptor]

poer?

[alpine zephyr]

sorry half asleep i meant power

mantis lords has an epic theme prolve me wrong

hollow knight does in general

[untold raptor]

go sleeeeeeep

[untold raptor]

naughty dog

[alpine zephyr]

its 10 am tho

[untold raptor]

10:46 am here

[alpine zephyr]

and i had online school so i did all my work

epic

[tardy folio]

i dreamed that silksong was announced on january 19 lmao

[untold raptor]

try to get sum rest

[alpine zephyr]

i had 9 hours its enough for me

[untold raptor]

i see a prophet is here

[tropic mica]

Maybe you are a prophet maybe you are wrong only time will tell

[untold raptor]

i slept for 2 hours so i take it that 9 is good enough

[alpine zephyr]

yes

[untold raptor]

welp have a good day imma go sleep or pass out

[alpine zephyr]

good nigh-

[heavy magnet]

sleep is for the weak
...goodnight everybody

[alpine zephyr]

XD thats why i dont sleep much

[fresh zodiac]

started another ss bet
if there is ANYTHING THIS YEAR
i will start with animation

[grave oxide]

ANYBODY SANE HERE?

[fresh zodiac]

nope

[grave oxide]

When is the next clown partty??..!

[split tide]

Whenever the next event is probably

[grave oxide]

[alpine zephyr]

isnt this chat pretty much a circus?

[grave oxide]

No December info is strange

[carmine sapphire]

hi folks

[grave oxide]

Anybody got some new copium?

[small goblet]

guys, you remember that thing about date in gog?
forget it, it's just current year, here's how site looked on 11 dec

[rocky jewel]

Yeah, figured it out

[coarse leaf]

Yo

[acoustic jetty]

oh no, i missed the release it seems

[wary marlin]

Silksong

[young saffron]

silksong

[carmine sapphire]

(real)

[rotund yoke]

Is silksong set in the time before hollow knight?

[ocean mulch]

Princess KnightPlay

[coarse leaf]

no

[wary timber]

ss takes place 40 years after hk

[woven rampart]

40 years and 1 month to be specific

[lean compass]

Amogus

Ok goodnight

[carmine sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-group-chat-dead-chat-chat-died-chat-ded-chat-revive-gif-23811786

[alpine zephyr]

ikr

[formal kelp]

sneackers yum

[tired lake]

News this year?

Istg if I'm at the end of the year coping about ss not being released I'm fr hopeless

[lime sparrow]

are the rumors i've been hearing about february been confirmed or are they probably fake?

[modest night]

it's a placeholder date, so basically it means nothing

they could not hit the date or hit it we don't know

[formal kelp]

date is a placeholder, february timeframe - possible, but unknown

[lime sparrow]

right

[modest night]

so it's just like every other day

[lime sparrow]

makes sense

[sage glade]

[formal kelp]

well its not, since someone would've had to put that date, it could be just a placeholder, it could've been a date they were trying to hit or just a general february timeframe guess

but with no confirmation it means nothing

[coarse leaf]

the first is the most likely to be just a placeholder since its not really that exact of a date compared to any other day In February and its still possible they have no intent on releasing it soon

[lone bough]

So silksong in Feb?

[fiery coral]

🥴

[dark thunder]

God I hope

but if it ain't out then, then it'll be out at some point

[carmine sapphire]

theres no way ss will release in feb, around may sounds more realistic to me

[alpine crane]

i just want it out Q1 or Q2 of this year , otherwise , after 2 years so i can actually play it

[carmine sapphire]

same

[dark thunder]

Fair enough, how come you don't think it'll be febuary?

[sweet lotus]

what happens after Q2 this year?

[alpine crane]

nah , it's just me , don't worry

[carmine sapphire]

i dont know, sounds too good to be true

[dark thunder]

Fair

[sweet lotus]

everything alright friend?

[alpine crane]

army starting Q3

[dark thunder]

Bruh

[alpine crane]

won't exist at home obviously

anyway , 22 days left for luminous avenger IX2 , so hyped for that game

[sweet lotus]

which country, if I may ask?

[lament lotus]

must be the best nuts he has tasted lmao

[alpine crane]

u may ask , but i don't have to answer , sorry

[sweet lotus]

don't worry, didn't want to sound too curious, it's just that I'm from a country with an obligatory army service as well 🙂

[coarse leaf]

_ _

[nimble radish]

excellent

[sage glade]

you're back

please gib more nfts to NOT screenshot

[uncut citrus]

dane

like pronounced dan

[alpine zephyr]

Beeto the rolly beetle thing

[stone wyvern]

Herbert

[sinful flare]

cool fella

[sinful flare]

the god of destruction

[lean compass]

Maybe ss will come out in June

January going by too slow time needs to hurry up

[barren owl]

hey guys I have hacked into the mainframe, nintendo direct second half of january, silksong early to mid feb you havent heard it from me

[gilded wagon]

i saw that information week ago

[small goblet]

damn this pic goes pretty hard

[sinful flare]

according to nvidia leak!

[cerulean tree]

😍 he's so cute!!1!1😍 im gonna make a fan account

[mystic elk]

Do we hope, that there will be no character like Salubra in Silksong?

[burnt topaz]

You don't like being smooched

[alpine zephyr]

It’s a free portable hot spring

Just for the price of spending time getting all charms and a kiss

[split tide]

and to always hear her "uuuUUUuuUUUUUuuUUUU" when resting at any bench

[alpine zephyr]

Free beats to vibe to https://tenor.com/view/shade-lord-of-shades-default-gif-23970240

[upbeat pulsar]

I just realized the December division lost

[true vine]

you're late

[barren owl]

give it enough time and we will all lose, clown troupe grows ever stronger

[surreal mortar]

January division unite

[cerulean tree]

more like january jokers cuz they make me laugh with their tomfoolery

[true vine]

we do a little crying

[small goblet]

january jdiots

[tough glen]

GUYS GUYS GUYS
MARCH 12TH
FOR SURE
ITS JUST A RANDOM DATE I PICKED RN

[true vine]

omg

[cerulean tree]

real and true im betting money on this

[true vine]

moving on

[true vine]

same, I'll bet -20

[cerulean tree]

does that mean i have to pay you if it gets released on that date?

[severe mural]

ye

[copper nest]

I swear I see this conversation a lot on here

[quartz yew]

Hello

Recently been thinking if we're ever going to get a path of pain equivalent in silksong and now I have a few names for it

1. Martyr's ascension
2. Journey of suffering
3. Pilgrim's end

They're not very creative but it's interesting to think about it.

[cerulean tree]

i actually really like 1. and 3. , 2. is also good but a more copy/fanmade-like

[fleet temple]

I'll just call it steve

[sinful flare]

hey guys i think its gonna release on 54th myrlacg

[quartz yew]

Ah yes.

[burnt topaz]

I disagree

[true vine]

or you can call it "The Wait"

[quartz yew]

Yeah second one was made on a whim

[cerulean tree]

i will simply call it "big walk"

[quartz yew]

The jump

[burnt topaz]

Path of hurt

[cerulean sable]

"Sherma's Shitshack"

[quartz yew]

Path of ouch

[trim estuary]

[quartz yew]

That's the face he makes when he sees you entering it.

[alpine zephyr]

Depression ( yes the name is depression)

[burnt topaz]

Welcome to my shitstack, now die

[cerulean tree]

thats the face he makes when hes filling the shack

[quartz yew]

[trim estuary]

[cerulean tree]

i will say this till i die, i'd kick sherma's ass to the moon

[quartz yew]

Nah that is the face he makes.

[cerulean tree]

nah this is the face he makes:

[burnt topaz]

Shermaprime

[cerulean tree]

shermapoop

[quartz yew]

I made a joke here a while ago:

Question: What do you think will be cut from the game?

Someone: Maybe-
Sherma haters: Sherma. In half please

[cerulean tree]

i agree

[quartz yew]

The evil flea face is my most favorite emote in this channel. It oozes chaotic energy.

[cerulean tree]

like a sick magic trick gone "wrong"

[sinful flare]

As long as reever is not here i can say that i can beat up sherma in a first fight

[fleet temple]

watch sherma become the most loved character when ss comes out

[burnt topaz]

Because he's a witch who manipulates the masses

[trim estuary]

[cerulean tree]

reever is a sherma defender, disgracefull behaviour

[trim estuary]

[quartz yew]

I still stand by this. Sherma will be adorable and ya'll are gonna be called out on your hating.

[trim estuary]

SS, more like Save Sherma

[cerulean tree]

i will not let him

[quartz yew]

This has such ominous energy to it

[cerulean tree]

SS, more like Sfucking choke Sherma

[burnt topaz]

And we will stand by our point as well, no popular opinion will sway us

[cerulean tree]

**good. **

[sinful flare]

Starve stogether

[alpine zephyr]

Sherma looks like the sensei from Kung fu panda

[quartz yew]

Jojo's bizzare adventure music starts playing

[quartz yew]

You mean fucking Shifu???

[cerulean tree]

i will just bend space and time to make it possible to curbstomp sherma

[burnt topaz]

The sad fact of you using the Japanese term instead of both the Chinese term and his actual name

[cerulean tree]

he will simply not survive

[alpine zephyr]

I don’t know at this point

[alpine zephyr]

Like I said to you my brain is completely destroyed right now

[quartz yew]

I will cry if we get the option to kill him like the nailsmith thing

[alpine zephyr]

I had 3 tests today all made me struggle

[burnt topaz]

I'm still gonna

[cerulean tree]

like in squid game when they get shot in the head

[alpine zephyr]

Ye

[alpine zephyr]

Gonna do what?

[burnt topaz]

Cry

[alpine zephyr]

Yay I used to do that every day 🙂

[quartz yew]

I like your profile pic. Is that sherma?

[burnt topaz]

No it's his long lost cousin germa

[cerulean tree]

i wouldnt have a second thought when killing him

[trim estuary]

jerma

[cerulean tree]

jerma?? fuck

[burnt topaz]

It's his long lost cousin Jerma986

A completely unique jerma variant

[cerulean tree]

the only one in the sherma bloodline that will survive

[alpine zephyr]

Why did u do 986?

[quartz yew]

You get to fight him in silksong but instead of fightimg you normally he just pulls out a fucking gun and kills you instantly.

[alpine zephyr]

It was so close to my numbers

[burnt topaz]

Doesn't know jerma

[alpine zephyr]

You should know by now that I still don’t understand much of anything

[quartz yew]

You disturb his sleep while visting the city and he pulls out a glock.

[alpine zephyr]

Why 986 then

[cerulean tree]

im gonna crush sherma under a big boot

[burnt topaz]

I don't have to explain myself

[alpine zephyr]

Please do

[burnt topaz]

OK in dms

[alpine zephyr]

Ok ty

[cerulean tree]

"refuses to elaborate"

[true vine]

"leaves"

[quartz yew]

There's 28 days left till february.

[burnt topaz]

Let's go

[quartz yew]

I hope we don't get radio silence again.

[burnt topaz]

The sooner its February the sooner it's the end of the year

[quartz yew]

One more month closer to the end of the year

[burnt topaz]

And the sooner it's the end of the year the sooner tc can go on break again

[quartz yew]

Indeed

[alpine zephyr]

I just want a game to play again

[north jasper]

replay hk for 100th time

[cerulean tree]

you should really try this underground indie game Hollow Knight, you probably haven't heard of it but its great

[trim estuary]

so called “free thinkers” in the HK discord server when someone asks for an indie game recommendation

[alpine zephyr]

I have

[burnt topaz]

Don't you have game pass, there's a buncha games on that

[wary copper]

after enough hollow knight it becomes hollow

[burnt topaz]

Deep

[wary copper]

no its hollow

[alpine zephyr]

All the ones on there don’t interest me rn

I completed all the ones I like

[marsh ibex]

Skul Hero Slayer

[alpine zephyr]

I wanna finish no mans sky but my friend who has the save files game pass ran out

[shell yacht]

fuck i forgot to actually buy it, i wonder if its still on sale

can you finish NMS??

[alpine zephyr]

No that’s the whole point

[shell yacht]

[alpine zephyr]

Well kinda there is a story but unlimited play

[shell yacht]

i knew they updated it alot after the shitstorm of a release, u made me think it had plot all of a sudden

[alpine zephyr]

There’s a story

Kinda

[north jasper]

lore deeper than hk lore

[alpine zephyr]

It’s fun to just make vechiles and then run over your friend for fun

[north jasper]

just like irl

[alpine zephyr]

Ye wait wo-

[true vine]

Genshin Impact

[burnt topaz]

Did you run him over?

[north jasper]

no, dont do it

[trim estuary]

jail

[alpine zephyr]

Got ar 45 and Hu Tao maxed out I think I completed my goal

[burnt topaz]

I don't know what some of those words mean

[alpine zephyr]

I was run over now I am re born as a grub let’s go

[true vine]

ah

[trim estuary]

They have an AR45, I’m assuming that’s a gun, and they have a max level character

[true vine]

unfortunately I understood that

[alpine zephyr]

Adventure rank

[burnt topaz]

I don't think genshin has guns

[true vine]

it does lol

[alpine zephyr]

It means I wasted like 2 months of my life

[burnt topaz]

What kind of guns

[trim estuary]

Bad game then

[true vine]

one enemy has a fire musket

[burnt topaz]

That's pretty cool

[true vine]

anime

[north jasper]

hollow knight guns where

[trim estuary]

Hollow Point

[burnt topaz]

That already exists

[north jasper]

except mods

[alpine zephyr]

I have a dragunov and a Luger maxed out they shoot arrows

[trim estuary]

Exception

[burnt topaz]

What you didn't unlock the guns part yet for completing poh all bindings

[alpine zephyr]

Easy brb

Done

[burnt topaz]

You got the guns?

[alpine zephyr]

Ye

[little tendon]

i think hornet should have a gun as a tool

just pop a cap in the final boss and win

[trim estuary]

shoot lace

[little tendon]

now that would be epic

[haughty brook]

I mean, Hornet can use the equivalent of a grenade so its pretty close.

[alpine zephyr]

Ww3 hornet?

[haughty brook]

More like World War Spider Woman

[alpine zephyr]

Yes

[carmine sapphire]

welp

[barren owl]

my only worry is that Hornet's movement will not be as precise as knight's
she looks a bit clunky in the footage we've seen

[marsh ibex]

?

how can you glean that from footage and now playing it yourself

[trim estuary]

skill

[haughty brook]

I mean, people accostumed to Ghost/The Knight movement in HK will find some difficulty to get used to Hornert's.

[marsh ibex]

yeah but my thing is that they specifically said clunky

[haughty brook]

For what I saw in the demo (which is actual gameplay played by other people apart from the developers themselves) it seems Hornet has good control over her movements.

[copper nest]

Only thing I will miss is that it looks like Hornet can't pogo

[trim estuary]

She can kinda

[opaque sigil]

Hornet movement looks very dynamic

Hornet can definitely pogo

[haughty brook]

I mean, the idea of Silksong is to play a distinct character than the Knight/Ghost in the previous game, so definitly her movement would be distinctible from the Knight.

[copper nest]

But not like downwards, it looks like it's always at an angle from what I've seen so that's gonna be tough to judge where to strike to pogo

[opaque sigil]

It's a 45 degree angle, it's barely different, just move a bit to the side

[copper nest]

Time to math XD

[trim estuary]

It’s a 45 degree angle, innit

[opaque sigil]

45 degree is very intuitive

[copper nest]

I'm sure I'll get used to it the more I play but it looks like it's gonna be a big learning curve

[opaque sigil]

If it were like 30 or 60 or something then yeah, that would be annoying, but 45 is just a quarter of a circle

[haughty brook]

Still my favourite move from Hornet is when she uses her needle to graple and then uses her weapon to "surf" it. Like, is so over the top but it fits Hornet's character so much.

[marsh ibex]

quarter of a quarter right?

or

wait

[opaque sigil]

Eighth

[marsh ibex]

no wait yeah I’m right

[barren owl]

half of a quarter

[marsh ibex]

damn it

[opaque sigil]

Like it's very easy to predict where the dash would send you

And the hitbox isn't so small that being a bit off will make you miss

[marsh ibex]

I just like her pogo flip

[trim estuary]

Oh yeah what if you went the other way

[opaque sigil]

Pogo flip is very nice, yes

[copper nest]

I like the flip

[burnt topaz]

The flip is cool and dashing after looks fun and stylish

[haughty brook]

Is there any image of Hornet uses her grapple ability in the clocktower area? I can't find it for some reason, at least one with good quality.

[trim estuary]

Sprint jump is better than flip

[marsh ibex]

can hornet wavedash tho

[trim estuary]

I see, thanks

[opaque sigil]

That was only in the trailer but I can probably get a reasonable image

[burnt topaz]

That'd be pretty cool actually

[marsh ibex]

i could

make it a gif

[barren owl]

sure you can predict a jump like that, but pogoing in place is almost impossible
also diagonal move has a certain distance so you have to make sure it doesnt end too soon or ull just get hit

[opaque sigil]

Gif is also doable

[copper nest]

Also gotta hope you don't go to use it and go off the edge and all way to the bottom of an area

[sacred stratus]

plz let me out of here

I'm stuck in this zoom class for more than 3 hours already

[opaque sigil]

You don't need to pogo in place

That would be very counterproductive to SS combat

You shouldn't be able to pogo in place

[barren owl]

well platforming then

[haughty brook]

My advice, embrace the torture and fear until its done.

[trim estuary]

Do we know if the down pogo just keeps going or does it have a set distance?

[opaque sigil]

Has a set max distance probably

[trim estuary]

Dang

[opaque sigil]

You can platform with the upgraded pogo

Also here

Does that suffice

[marsh ibex]

Rude

[haughty brook]

Yes

[marsh ibex]

why is it so crusty

[keen karma]

She does a flip tho so it's cooler

[barren owl]

do we know how thats aimed, is it some sort of lockon in general direction?

[desert gulch]

I think it’s either left or right

[opaque sigil]

Seems like a prescribed angle, maybe with a bit of lock on, but probably not that much, since in all instances we've seen it's at pretty much the same angle

[keen karma]

I don't think it's lock on, maybe it just has a bigger hitbox

[marsh ibex]

Fuck it just take the vid

internet is being problematic

[trim estuary]

Wingsmould part 2

[opaque sigil]

It's also used near pukebug but it's not any different there, same angle, just dashes towards a wall

[keen karma]

Yeah I just think it's a general direction that latches onto anything in range

[opaque sigil]

Having to aim abilities beyond left/right would kind of be bad imo

It would make an ability slower to use

[barren owl]

ye, especially during those fast platforming parts

[opaque sigil]

And make you disrupt movement to use it

[barren owl]

maybe some sort of soft auto aim, like hades with ranged weapons

[opaque sigil]

Well Hades compliments a manual aim, but sure, something like that I could see

[marsh ibex]

not soft if you’re on consoles

[copper nest]

Ah, I thought it would be like, it would only attach or hit things at the angle from where you are, you need to be precise where you are for it to lock onto an enemy

[opaque sigil]

You probably need to be precise in some capacity

But it looks like it should work against enemies approximately level with Hornet

[copper nest]

So timing really is going to be annoying

[opaque sigil]

Like here the enemy is basically horizontal

If that's what you have to be to hit the attack, then fine. Not hard to eyeball, really

[haughty brook]

I think maybe there is a soft lock on for the grapple ability.

[opaque sigil]

Maybe a little

[copper nest]

Doesn't seem too annoying then if it can do that

[opaque sigil]

Maybe the grapple has a larger hitbox than it might otherwise appear to

[haughty brook]

Yeah, because Hollow Knight isn't a 3D game then the grapple ability should have some characteristic that facilitates its use so not to frustrate the player.

[opaque sigil]

Well I don't really think it needs a larger hitbox than it appears to have, but in the frantic combat of SS I could see that being effectually significant

ie regardless of whether I think that's a necessary addition, it would probably be noticeable

I know I've missed VS in HK

[small goblet]

this grapple will be hard for dpad players

[opaque sigil]

And missing a grapple will be even more problematic than missing a projectile because it moves you

Where missing a normal projectile would only penalize you for the cost of using the projectile, missing a grapple could also put you in a disadvantageous position

[barren owl]

thats my thoughts, in HK u only lose control of the knight during the dash
here we have so many movement abilities it seems

[opaque sigil]

Well yeah but there doesn't really seem to be more stuff that locks movement necessarily

Or at least the frequency with which you use those abilities as opposed to those that don't doesn't seem higher to me

[barren owl]

i mean diagonal dash and subsequent bounce seem to be locked

[opaque sigil]

I guess pogo kind of locks you but only for a short time, and the bounce isn't control locked, you can move and dash and whatnot

And you spent a lot of time in combat dashing anyways in HK, so that's not really a super new thing

[barren owl]

ye i bet they playtested and polished it a bunch its just a concern since we know so little

[copper nest]

Yee

[frozen bloom]

oi i just had an amazing idea

[opaque sigil]

HK spells also froze you for a moment, and silk abilities are kinda similar in that regard

[mint valve]

Good morning. 7th day on discord and 5th day in 2022. any silksong

[frozen bloom]

Wouldnt it be super cool if lace's fight was synced with the music?

[opaque sigil]

But the main reason I doubt you'll spend nearly as much time not moving during SS combat as in HK combat is binding

Focusing could really dictate how a combat encounter goes

[lost coyote]

cant believe they brought back the godhome bindings from HK that's crazy wow

[small goblet]

it'll be really hard to implement, and even harder to implement unpredictable boss with music syncing

[opaque sigil]

It would be cool if they did some boss/music syncing but I'm not sure Lace is the best fit for it

[cerulean tree]

waddup

[opaque sigil]

Maybe Carmelita (since she's evocative of a dancer)

[copper nest]

That would be too hard with each players skill with the game though, everyone messes up in different moments unless the player has to be on the beat with the music like in a rhythm game which SS is not

[frozen bloom]

yep, but it could be like a small tiny mock animation of something that matches with those higher tunes lace music

similar to wand choreography

those thingies

[opaque sigil]

It's not a rhythm game but bosses falling into a rhythm of sorts happened a good deal in HK, if they built a boss like that and then modeled the music after that natural rhythm, the effect would be interesting imo

[marsh ibex]

The only way we’ve seen that is THK fight which basically halts the fight at a point

and even then the entire thing wasn’t synched

[opaque sigil]

More thinking of Mantis Lords and the like

Like if their music was synchronized with their attacks

[stoic path]

Mantis lords is a good fit for a rhythmic fight

[opaque sigil]

Because it is a rhythmic fight

[stoic path]

Yeah there movement is pretty much consistent

[opaque sigil]

So imagine a similar fight, but with music that is built around that consistent movement

Seems like it could be a cool effect

[copper nest]

I swear, Mantis Lords are the only fight I don't hate in the game. Like I only hated the trek to them but always loved the fight

Every other I have hated fighting them and loved it when I was over. I was sad when I beat Mantis Lords and so happy to fight them again

[digital glen]

There's gotta be a game that has adaptive music that changes with your performance

[small goblet]

i think you can technically kind of "synchronize" music with boss by replacing bosses' sounds with some chords, but meh

[opaque sigil]

Mantis Lords are the only fight you don't hate?

I mean I get not liking all the bosses but only ML?

[copper nest]

I have hated so many fights. I suppose Hornet 1 I liked but first timing it, I hated it. But I suppose I like that fight too

[true vine]

sad soul master noises

[digital glen]

Like if you are in a a string of atacks without taking damage, another instrunment gets introduced

[fiery coral]

[opaque sigil]

Not trying to be rude (sorry if it came off that way), just surprised

[digital glen]

Theres a game that kinda doss that, but i dont remember

[opaque sigil]

There are definitely some. I think DMC does it?

[small goblet]

you can only hate bossfights in hk because of frustration on first playthrough, but later?...

[fiery coral]

Yeah DMC does

DMC5 at least, from what I've heard

[small goblet]

style meter in hk bosses would look weird

[digital glen]

I love games with adaptive music

[opaque sigil]

Well yeah but that's not really what anybody's suggesting

[sullen fractal]

So I guess now we're hoping for news some time in february?

[fiery coral]

Hope, yes

[marsh ibex]

I don’t

[stoic path]

Hollow knight has adaptive music too, but the tone changes usually in different environments

[fiery coral]

hopefully no one's expecting anything

[copper nest]

I find ML much fairer than a lot of the fights, the patterns is much easier for me to get and learn. More fair to dodge the attacks.

I find a lot of other fights either too hectic or I struggle learning patterns for them as it's erratic and changes up a lot or (funnily enough) I can't sync it to the music like with ML.

TMG does come close but the dash attack screws me up every time

[marsh ibex]

I hope there’s no february news

[opaque sigil]

I just think that especially with the strong musical theme in SS and bosses with very explicit musical connotations, having bosses that utilize music in a more involved capacity would be a fitting thing

[small goblet]

i firstly (in dec) believed in feb news, but now i only hope

[digital glen]

I don't know of that's adaptive music

[stoic path]

Isn't it?

[sullen fractal]

I hope the only news they bring is that silksong is cancelled and they're charging us for hollow knight again

[opaque sigil]

HK has multiple area themes, one of which plays during combat, one outside of it, so that's kind of adaptive music I guess?

[digital glen]

It's just the areas music

[serene chasm]

I'm expecting everything. I put my fist child down as a bet that we will get SS on Feb 1st

[opaque sigil]

HK doesn't have super adaptive music though, aside from PoP ig, and maybe the grimm fights, arguably

[digital glen]

Oh i guess the combat variation could be kinda of a adaptive music youre right

[stoic path]

Well I mean, it is one whole track which smoothly transitions when going from different locations in the SAME area

[barren owl]

I hope they stopped working on it and ran off to australia or something

[sullen fractal]

So I guess the big months are february, e3 TGA and New years?

[opaque sigil]

Grimm fights play more intense versions during the pufferfish attacks, and PoP music changes as you go along

[sullen fractal]

and also every nintendo direct or small announcement

[digital glen]

can the combat music begin at any point of the current music or it just begins another?

[fiery coral]

I have made a note of that

[opaque sigil]

I think it transitions between them smoothly and at a corresponding point

[small goblet]

hope you're not for real

[opaque sigil]

Pretty sure it's like two versions of the same theme, and it just swaps between them

Like the rain/thunder variants in 3H

[serene chasm]

Tbt I'm not really expecting anything. They're just a little shit and this is the best way to get rid of them

[stoic path]

There is adaptive soundtrack in the game during normal exploration. For example, in Greenpath there are sections where the more strings is plays, but also areas where only the main melody plays.

[small goblet]

poor child then

[barren owl]

city of tears famously