sk-discussion

[cerulean sable]

hi

[marsh ibex]

Quality of Life

[empty trench]

It doesnt work

[bleak scarab]

we might not have pogo

Hornet is too fat for pogoing

[empty trench]

We might have pogo on zoteboat

Horfat

It will be kinda hard without pogo

[bleak scarab]

They already know

[supple widget]

Plan?

[empty trench]

Grag

[supple widget]

Grag?

[agile kelp]

Grg

Gg

[sacred stratus]

Geg

[agile kelp]

Get

[sacred stratus]

Ayo wtf?

[agile kelp]

Sorry noticed the typo too late

[agile kelp]

Git

[sage glade]

hub

[sacred stratus]

I’m gonna git to ass

[olive bobcat]

fake

[agile kelp]

No its true

[stoic path]

For a fake teaser, that's a nice UI

[olive bobcat]

Thank you

[sage glade]

that is extremely convincing

[stoic path]

Kind of makes sense too, the map is probably going to be vertical

[olive bobcat]

I should really make a new map like that with all the new info since then

[stoic path]

Wait where is Bonebottom?

[empty trench]

What if citadel isnt the final area

[sage glade]

i would've liked it to be like an upside down cone type thing instead of a rectangle. the higher you go, the more freedom of exploration you have

[agile kelp]

At the bottom
Hence the name

[olive bobcat]

I wasn't sure whether or not to include it since it's a town

[stoic path]

Ah

[olive bobcat]

If towns are as big as Dirtmouth then hoo boy

[empty trench]

I think that will be the opposite

[stoic path]

Since in HK Dirtmouth starts from the 'mouth' of Hallownest, pretty sure Bonebottom in Pharloom starts straight from the ass

[empty trench]

Do you guys believe in february

[coarse leaf]

ITS COMING

[empty trench]

Show proof

[olive bobcat]

Aight, added to my "days not to check ss-disc" list

[marsh ibex]

you should add a month

February

[tribal nexus]

where did that get anounced

[empty trench]

I think that nintendo said indie world would be the last event of this year

[sage glade]

i don't think it's true

[marsh ibex]

because we are definitely getting nuked the first and the last day of february

if this is false information I’m warning you

yknow pins are a thing

[sage glade]

ppl who would nuke in the first day of feb

[empty trench]

If this is false informantion I'm banning him

[tribal nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[warm bone]

"🤨 "

[empty trench]

The next Nintendo direct is on february

[olive bobcat]

oh please no ss fans are gonna eat that one up

[tribal nexus]

oh god, fine il wait to put on my clownsuit till then

[empty trench]

Bruh i was joking

[cunning lynx]

I'm more worried about the fact that cherries have been silent all year round, what's the point of directs

[wise wharf]

everyone, no matter when ss releases, i just wanna say it has been very funny to watch the community implode every couple of weeks

[pearl meadow]

And also kinda tragic

[empty trench]

Prob we'll have no news of many games for the next few days, people always take a break in the lasts days of the year. But if leth suggests to tc smth special for the last day (31, like e3) we might get news

[hollow terrace]

Leth probably begs TC to share stuff

TC “hehe drawing bugs go wooooo”

[empty trench]

But 31 is most probably

[empty trench]

[olive bobcat]

I wonder what Coral Forest's room layout will be like

I'm thinking a big room or two that branch off into other sections

[silver oak]

To showcase games, like they always have been

Directs have literally never been about silksong

[empty trench]

Adino

[alpine crane]

No Feb silksong hornet be like that

[empty trench]

If we dont get any news on december 31 im waiting for news on january 15+

[tired lake]

hopefully news next year

[empty trench]

Tc is on holidays sign off since 2019

[shy stirrup]

Is it just me or is anyone else really excited to see the extra title screens

[olive bobcat]

yeah same

[sacred stratus]

Real main menu of Silksong confirmed

[sacred stratus]

Lucky me bcs my brain is still stuck in 2019

[empty trench]

Prob it will be similar than hk but maybe with some tc social links

[sage glade]

[velvet bridge]

Is there a place holder release for silksong marked for February 1st

Just curious

[brittle garnet]

there is a leak that has this date, but it's dubious

[velvet bridge]

LOL

Of course

[brittle garnet]

the leak is from an NVidia GeForce Now database

[coarse leaf]

ello

[brittle garnet]

it's dubious because people who accessed this database got different results for Silksong, some of them had this release date some didn't. The date also got changed to June 30 some time after the leak.

[velvet bridge]

I heard that the source got removed so I assume it has an inkling of truth

[coarse leaf]

what did i just step into

[brittle garnet]

NVidia said that this is an internal testing database but it's also dubious if this isn't just damage control

[velvet bridge]

Oh so the date changed of course it did keeps us on our toes

Exactly damage control indeed

[brittle garnet]

Some of the dates for other games turned out to be true

[fiery coral]

Wait what

[brittle garnet]

yeah

[fiery coral]

don't get me hyped

do not

[velvet bridge]

If I was to put a link in the chat would that be ok

[brittle garnet]

but I think the fact that SS's date was inconsistent and that it was changed shortly after the leak might mean that it isn't an accurate date

[velvet bridge]

I take things with a grain a salt but still keep that info with a sense of intrigue just in case

You never know

[signal crag]

oh well, we'll see eventually

[empty trench]

Did you check fireborn's video

[velvet bridge]

No I haven’t

[hollow terrace]

We need to hacked the database again

[brittle garnet]

yeah you never know, I think it might hold some inkling of truth, but it's most definitely not a final or precise date

[empty trench]

Its pretty convincing

[signal crag]

it's almost surely a placeholder simply because it's either the first or last of the month
but that doesn't immediately mean it has no meaning

[brittle garnet]

yeah, basically

[empty trench]

Geforce was like "damage control"

Im very convinced for feb

Im ready to be a clown for the third time

[brittle garnet]

well yeah, most likely damage control, but keep in mind that if the release date was true it was most likely just a rough estimate

so holding out for Feb specifically might not be the best idea

[velvet bridge]

As long as team cherry doesn’t succumb to the pressures of being a game studio it shouldn’t terribly bad to keep waiting, no one wants a repeat of cyberpunk even though SS can be patched a bit after initial release

[empty trench]

Ye but i think it should release around feb

[brittle garnet]

I'd like it to 🥴

[signal crag]

there's no reason to fear a CP77 situation for SS

[empty trench]

And most late at e3 since silksong appeared on 2019

Maybe tc use feb as announcement-month

But seems unlikely

[brittle garnet]

the announcement probably won't be very long before the release

[empty trench]

Release on feb or announcement on e3

[cerulean thorn]

I really hope it does release on feb, I have mandatory enrollment to the army in march and than I won't have time to play it 😦

[velvet bridge]

I mean it sounds like 2022 might be the year and besides 2019 had most footage for even announcing SS, just take things with a grain of salt though

Thank you for your service

[empty trench]

But im kinda worried about feb and past events, the community did a high pressure to tc

Especially on tga

[brittle garnet]

TC doesn't really feel the pressure I feel, they just don't care

[velvet bridge]

As long as we as a community don’t eat each other alive and put so much pressure on team cherry we should be fine just trust the flow

[empty trench]

Leth prob warned they and said smth for news

Thats my guess

[velvet bridge]

All we can do is speculate and datamine leaks for info

[uncut citrus]

if they really felt pressured i think they would do a blog post or something, im pretty sure they just dont care yeah

[velvet bridge]

LOL true tho

Fearless fox ???

Oh

[uncut citrus]

and i tademarked Fearlessoon™️
Fearlesssoon™️
Fearlessnever™️
Soonfox™️
Neverfox™️

[velvet bridge]

I feel they have so much passion for the worlds of hollow knight it got me thinking that a third one is on there mind on the back burner just saying

[mystic mulch]

How do you fellow kids, playing Silksong already?

[uncut citrus]

now if it actually becomes a game everyone will have to give me 482M SilkPoints

[velvet bridge]

We’re not, just speculating

[young saffron]

[velvet bridge]

LOL

[uncut citrus]

everytimes they wanna use it

and ill use all of these silkpoints to fund my world domination project

[velvet bridge]

[uncut citrus]

we do a minuscule amount of trolling

[velvet bridge]

Of course in small dose’s

[uncut citrus]

[velvet bridge]

[uncut citrus]

if only jinn was turned the other way it would work way better

[velvet bridge]

Ha

[uncut citrus]

sherma one is probably the best tho

[velvet bridge]

So any indications if I can place a embedded video link here

[empty trench]

Prob u can

But maybe bot autodelets it

[velvet bridge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/qlqDA5NOWg8?feature=share

It’s a bit old but that’s where I was going based on

My thoughts on a release date but with a grain of salt

Like we already discussed

[opaque sigil]

It's a nonstatement

It's just reciting the date in the leak

The date which is nonsense

[empty trench]

Its not that nonsense

Silksong announcement trailer and hk were on february

[opaque sigil]

The notion of TC establishing a date and sharing it with a third party for no reason six+ months in advance is silly

[velvet bridge]

True but I’ve seen shenanigans before

[empty trench]

Maybe tc shared it with every gaming platform (like steam and etc) cuz they're really releasing it on feb

[velvet bridge]

Again a grain of salt

[opaque sigil]

Except they wouldn't know that that far ahead of time

[velvet bridge]

Just be patient and trust TC

[opaque sigil]

And in that case it would be easiest to just wait, no reason to give an extra date

[empty trench]

And its kinda sus cuz leth didnt say anything about it and its like the first topic here

[opaque sigil]

Leth didn't say anything about it because he doesn't have to

[empty trench]

How do you know its a 6 months+

[random granite]

tons of devs submit a release date months in advance to game shops/stores in preparation for release, it's super common

[opaque sigil]

Because the date was seen in september, 5-6 months before february, and it likely wasn't put in right before the leak (probably like 10 months or so, at least)

[opaque sigil]

Not when they can't determine it that far ahead of time

[velvet bridge]

Oh gawd what have started

[random granite]

still it's possible that it isn't exact but more a goal

[empty trench]

I still believing it, geforce did a trash explanation

[velvet bridge]

Thank you someone said it, it’s a goal if it can be reached

[trim estuary]

y’all are cuckoo

[empty trench]

Dont forget that some of the games that were leaked actually got released and prob they were 6+ months too

[opaque sigil]

If it isn't even intended to be an actual date, TC would have even less reason to give it to nvidia

[brittle garnet]

NVidia might have wanted to damage control but the database had like hundreds of games other than Silksong, just becuase a portion of games was accurate doesn't mean Silksong will be too

[opaque sigil]

Wrong

[velvet bridge]

Otherwise they can as game devs usually do bump up the release date

[empty trench]

I heard that some leaked games actually launched

[opaque sigil]

The database would only have had accurate dates for games that would release soon, it would become less and less accurate as more dates become placeholders

[brittle garnet]

even if so, you can't just apply that to Silksong, different developers have different launch strategies

[trim estuary]

They’re in different situations

[empty trench]

Ok so why nvidia would put february as a guess

[opaque sigil]

As a placeholder

Do you know what a placeholder is? It holds the place of a real date when there isn't a real date

[empty trench]

Yeah ik

[opaque sigil]

Like the steam placeholder

[random granite]

ok but why even include it in the system in the first place

[tame widget]

The truth here is we won't know the answer until it get either confirmed or deconfirmed

[brittle garnet]

database fields need to be filled out i.e. NOT NULL a lot of the times because that's just how database systems are designed

[opaque sigil]

Because it's a database, it is supposed to have data in it

Same reason Steam had a placeholder release date

[velvet bridge]

True but if they reached there goals in time you never know, it might come out of nowhere as a surprise strategy

[random granite]

yes I understand that, what I mean is, with all the other entries, why include silksong, it wasn't a required entry, they could have just left it out

[opaque sigil]

There's zero reason to think that it's a goal

[empty trench]

I heard that fireborn received an email from geforce about a database backup and it says "null" for silksong

[opaque sigil]

Because SS had no release date in any leak

[empty trench]

And other geforce guy sent a database backup which says feb 2022

[opaque sigil]

It had feb 1 as the "earliest street date"

[empty trench]

So its kinda confusing

[opaque sigil]

And it is now June 13 2021 or something

[velvet bridge]

[empty trench]

So why they changed the placeholder

[opaque sigil]

Because they can

It's for internal use, they're using it internally

[velvet bridge]

Dates can change and it’s fine

[empty trench]

But its kinda sus change it right after the leak

[opaque sigil]

nvidia can put whatever they want there

[opaque sigil]

Not really, no

[empty trench]

And all the posts about the leak got deleted i guess

[opaque sigil]

It's not like they were trying to cover it up by changing the date

[velvet bridge]

Damage control do you know what that means, fixing something to cover a screw up

[empty trench]

Thsts a good point

[opaque sigil]

Except there's no sane way to interpret that as damage control

[tame widget]

What is sus is that if the "leak" release date got replaced by "null" instead of 1st February, why wasn't it null in the first place?

[opaque sigil]

Changing the database doesn't undo that a prior entry was leaked

[opaque sigil]

It was. The thing that was not null was the earliest street date

[tame widget]

but what does that mean? "earliest street date"?

[opaque sigil]

[tame widget]

then why using it in a sentence

[velvet bridge]

Well I look at it two ways feb or June, at this point if it gets pushed to 2023 I’m going to be curious if that means they want to implement co-op

[empty trench]

As graig said, he feels that the game is already done. Maybe tc already decided february and keeps adding content until february hits

[opaque sigil]

Probably nvidia's estimate of when they would need to be able to support SS streaming or smth

[opaque sigil]

Not what he said, nor is that realistic

[velvet bridge]

Otherwise it stands to reason this Should be the year

[marsh ibex]

Earliest street date refers to physical copies

the earliest places can sell those

[opaque sigil]

TC can't just stop at any time and hit the big red release button, they still have to test the game, verify with nintendo, finish up polishing, etc

[marsh ibex]

because places like gamestop usually get those shipments beforehand

[opaque sigil]

And Graig never said the game was done

Obviously

[empty trench]

Who knows if they're doing that already

[opaque sigil]

Not you

[shy stirrup]

More content means more qa and playtesting

Also feb is waaaay to packed for ss

[random wing]

@shy stirrup I love the profile picture!

[empty trench]

I mean, he said feels thst it would already releases bug tc keeps adding content

Ok u won heres ur medal 🏅

[opaque sigil]

"The game would have already released if it was a smaller game than it was" is not the same as "game done"

[velvet bridge]

Well I’ve seen a bunch of game devs never omitting to a game being done but a deadline means they can realistically know when a good stopping point is otherwise it will be such a house game that we will be waiting until 2024

[cerulean sable]

Team Cherry:
https://youtu.be/cNEOv3xJv4g?t=11

[velvet bridge]

Huge*

[shy stirrup]

Thx!

[desert basin]

If the game is in a state where it can release, it should. Then TC can do the same thing they did with HK and add content post launch

[random wing]

My pleasure!

[opaque sigil]

It's probably not, and they shouldn't

[random granite]

Games show up in stores 1-7 days in advance from the release date, with earliest street date being Feb 1st, it's not absurb to theorize valentines day as a possible release

[shy stirrup]

That was only done gor hk because funding ran out

[opaque sigil]

TC only did the HK updates because the game was rushed and incomplete at launch

And that very much affected the contiguity of the final project adversely

[shy stirrup]

^ (Graig also confirmed)

[opaque sigil]

Godhome and Grimm Troupe are janky and disjointed compared to the rest of the game

[shy stirrup]

Also, games should always release fully complete if possible

[opaque sigil]

Grimm Troupe is a glorified fetch quest and godhome is a total removal from the core game

[split tide]

Silksong is also going to be held to a much higher standard than HK at release too

[shy stirrup]

Its a bad practice to encourage game devs to release half finished games

[split tide]

Releasing an incomplete game and then filling in the blanks isn’t going to fly for SS

[opaque sigil]

Hidden Dreams and Lifeblood just tuck things in some corners

[shy stirrup]

Tc even said the small release of hk helped iron out bugs without anybstress. That will NOT be possible with ss

[velvet bridge]

Or at least with the amount of world building TC wants to do

[opaque sigil]

Content updates are not preferable to a full release of the game

[cerulean sable]

Leth himself said during calls theyd blabber about ideas and all he could reply was "Wow, I think thats cool and all but could you consider turning these into DLCs instead?"

[signal crag]

i think they even considered this in that one dev video?

[desert basin]

It is if it makes the game actually release

[shy stirrup]

Exactly. I like content updates when games come out finished, not when they were released with half of the stuff they should have had already.

[cerulean sable]

Well i dont think theyre stopping soon

[opaque sigil]

It will release either way

[shy stirrup]

U want a half finished game iver a full game?

[desert basin]

Did I say that? I said I'd rather them release the main game and add whatever extra content they want later on. Is that such a bad thing? Graig said he thinks it could have already released

[opaque sigil]

It could have already released if it was a smaller game

It is not a smaller game

[trim estuary]

[split tide]

Yeah that’s a pretty big stretch to say that that implies the game is releaseable

[opaque sigil]

Silksong could probably have been out a long time ago if it was still a dlc. That does not mean it could have released by now, being the game that it actually is

[trim estuary]

I mean you can technically release it in any state, no guarantee it’s playable

[empty trench]

Chat died again

[cerulean sable]

as it should

[latent mauve]

its been 2 years, give us some slack

[cerulean sable]

ive been waiting for games for 5 years that inevitably never come out

or came out shit

im looking at you Sonny reboot

[desert basin]

We've run out of game to talk about so we just argue about absolutely nothing because the game isn't real and TC died in an Australian bush fire

[latent mauve]

i feel like silk song could come out now and woek pretty well, depending if the rumours are true that theyre just adding stuff at this point, and not really finetuning

[desert basin]

That's what I said and I got burned at the stake

[cerulean sable]

i mean i agree they could probably churn out a reasonably decent product now but as long as TC doesnt see it as a fit enough candidate, were not getting shit

[opaque sigil]

But we're also not getting what the game could/should be

Releasing it now would just be a waste

It would reduce the actual potential of the game, even with content updates

[empty trench]

Or it can already be what it should be

[latent mauve]

theyre planning ahead, theyre making a game so big that only a quantum computer could run it, so theyre just adding stuff and delaying untill people own them

[desert basin]

You say that as if you have any idea what state the game is in, you know just as much as yhe rest of us

[empty trench]

If they've finished

[opaque sigil]

Except it isn't. If it was the date would be announced

[cerulean sable]

my main issue with added content is that sometimes it feels divorced because instead of adjusting stuff to begin with it feels more like duct taping it on and calling it a day

[opaque sigil]

If the game was done there would be no reason not to announce a date, especially since they've had two opportunities this month to do it

[empty trench]

Thats why we're guessing feb

[cerulean sable]

i kinda felt this way with GM tbh thats just my opinion

[latent mauve]

TC are gonna precept 46 us

[desert basin]

TC doesn't like release dates, I'll look for the source but I swear they've said that before

[ocean mulch]

Pikmin 4.

[empty trench]

If they're done they have some time to deal with nintendo and etc. So they can announce it on january

[opaque sigil]

They don't like talking about release dates until they're sure they can make them. If they were done with the game, they could be sure of a date

If game is done, they can pick a date and be sure they can make it

[cerulean sable]

i swear ive seen so many of the fanbase about the 2 year long announcement period meanwhile ive felt that games get announced only to get released 5 years later

[empty trench]

Not if they plan do it at an nintendo's event

[opaque sigil]

Even then

[ocean mulch]

To me it's a no brainer

[opaque sigil]

And TC releasing the game at an event is not an assurance by any measure

SS is more than big enough for an independent release

[ocean mulch]

Imagine getting games like six months after they're revealed

[split tide]

For SS specifically I’d prefer a fully finished game

[primal fractal]

TAMMMMMMOOOOOO

[opaque sigil]

Yeah, for games about exploration, disjointed updates are a travesty

[cerulean sable]

Real shit back when i was a kid my reaction to seeing a trailer is that "oh this game is probably either gonna release in a span of 2 years to 4 years"

[jade canopy]

I guess it’s the coming soon, like no one is expecting elder scroll 6 to realease before like 2024 but it was announced in 2019 or so

[split tide]

Godmaster in particular does feel pretty divorced from the rest of the game

[cerulean sable]

the only reason i thought SS was coming out soon is because it already looks finished in my perspective until, it wasnt

[empty trench]

True, but maybe they're doing final tests + tiny adds for feb

[opaque sigil]

The coming soon that was an offhand comment by a treehouse host with likely little/no inside info and no script??

[storm anchor]

Silk song doesnt exist

[jade canopy]

Yeah, but we didn’t understand that at the time

[shy stirrup]

In a way thats good because if you dont wanna do anything with it, you dont have to, but yeah i see ur point

[ocean mulch]

They just had vague talking points in treehouse

[opaque sigil]

Jumping through hoops to rationalize February does not help your argument

[storm anchor]

youre in a dream

[cerulean sable]

for me coming soon didnt have weight for me to think it was gonna release on 2019, it was how it looked

[opaque sigil]

We had all the info

[empty trench]

Ok

[storm anchor]

w a k e u p

[cerulean sable]

fyi the SS isnt real is so overdone

[primal fractal]

dream nail urself

[shy stirrup]

Even if the game was finished releasing it in feb is the dumbest thing ever

[storm anchor]

gain that sweet sweet essence from yourself

[jade canopy]

And we were really naive

[opaque sigil]

All of this was apparent from the treehouse itself

[desert basin]

How?

[coarse leaf]

why

[cerulean sable]

like, literally its the arrow to the knee joke for the SS fandom

its not funny at this point

[storm anchor]

it wont release february

[desert basin]

It's easily more hyped than elden ring

[opaque sigil]

No

[empty trench]

I'll dream nail tc so we can see if its coming on feb

[shy stirrup]

February has WAY to many bug releases

[jade canopy]

Or I guess some were

[cerulean sable]

it really isnt

[storm anchor]

the devs are gonna finish it and then say
Hey!
Lets add this before we release it!
and take another 5 months to do that

[latent mauve]

could release feb...2023

[shy stirrup]

Nah this is bait LMAO

[opaque sigil]

I don't give a shit about elden ring, but elden ring is a much, much, much bigger game

[storm anchor]

Just to add another thing again
and take another 5 months

[primal fractal]

feb 2023 more likely than feb 2022

[cerulean sable]

Were dwarfed by it lmao

[empty trench]

Why? As tammo said, silksong is big enough for an independent release

[storm anchor]

just make silk song yourself

[cerulean sable]

if were 3.4 years in dev i think Late 2022 is the sweetspot

[storm anchor]

you'd do it quicker than cherry can

[shy stirrup]

Fans will buy it, but if u want new players release it an empty month like april

[opaque sigil]

I don't think TC has to care about elden ring. It would not cripple SS sales entirely

[storm anchor]

no demo, no nothing?

[signal crag]

since godmaster, right?

[cerulean sable]

tbf in a venn diagram were not really overlapping a lot of the big boys on Feb either

[latent mauve]

and remember, theyre not starting from scratch, im sure alot of stuff aswell as info can be taken from HK

[cerulean sable]

Yeah since GM

cuz graig said 2.5

then corrected himself to "after GM"

[latent mauve]

could be a toy story moment where they accidentally just deleated the game

[split tide]

I’m sure there’s also a lot more testing and bug-fixing compared to HK too though, since SS is going to be held to a much higher standard than HK at release

[storm anchor]

it looked pretty complete when shown in trailers ngl...

[cerulean sable]

I think thats where leaving the internet space is the best for them

they dont really need to give a shit

[opaque sigil]

Trailers aren't good metric for game completion

[cerulean sable]

and they can just do wtv they want with the game

[split tide]

You can have excellent trailers and still have a half-finished game tbh

[opaque sigil]

Also SS trailers did not look finished, it literally had Hornet with HK masks

[storm anchor]

looks like a very complex game

[tulip bone]

\ however much they want to add I will happily wait for

[cerulean sable]

If a game trailer uses a CGI that looks really good im 100% certain its releasing within the next 6 months

[shy stirrup]

Because theyre showing us specific parts

[cerulean sable]

because cool looking CGI == polished game

[split tide]

Just pick and choose from the good moments in the game and you got a nice trailer

[coarse leaf]

edge pictures

[storm anchor]

put it simply
silksong releases 2059

[shy stirrup]

I'll eat paper if ss comes out in February

[jade canopy]

Looking at the hk trailer I’m pretty sure they made up a lot of stuff in those trailer that were not at all in the game, like do not tell me they really done the boss fight against that huge spider

[marsh ibex]

Also we can’t make silksong faster than them

[cerulean sable]

i honestly wish they could get Graig to do most of the gameplay just to see high level sstuff

[marsh ibex]

They have assets we don’t

[storm anchor]

stop with the clown outfits on the knight
its not funny
we get it
it wont release when we want it to
dont gotta be a dick

[marsh ibex]

They have money and time that we don’t

[opaque sigil]

I think the giant spider was supposed to be an npc but yeah early HK trailers were wild

[marsh ibex]

and there was a demo in the making at one point

They gave up

[shy stirrup]

Tbf hk cut a LOT of stuff

[cerulean sable]

Like i wanna see someone doing a fucking chain pogo to a parry down to a dash then sprint jump into the air before ledge climbing and doing a grappling at someone in a span of 5 seconds\

[opaque sigil]

HK started out a very different game than it ended, imo SS may be a bit more focused. TC may have a better idea of the game they want to make going in

[storm anchor]

welp

looks like you dont get to eat that sweet succulent paper

[cerulean sable]

It was going to be a 4 hour roguelike where you get a randomized ability

If we went down that route none of us would be talking here right now

[empty trench]

Maybe the demo should be emough for have an idea about game completion

[shy stirrup]

Take a screenshot, i will do it

[opaque sigil]

which I would kinda want to see later on ngl

[storm anchor]

it wont release february so
you dont get to eat paper

[empty trench]

I mean, general things, like animations

[opaque sigil]

Not really, since it only includes basic abilities and fragments of two areas

[desert basin]

Let's just give up, game is not coming out, atleast not within the next 20 years

[storm anchor]

is it releases march then you need to eat a packet of staples

[empty trench]

True

[cerulean sable]

i dont vibe with roguelikes, if i get a Shiny Great Sword Of The Demon's Own Bloodlust +5 i wanna KEEP that shit because i earned it, not because i got through RNG that ill eventually lose cuz i mistepped

[shy stirrup]

No.

[cerulean sable]

also prefer seeing new enemies + areas >>>>>>>> being good mechanically

[storm anchor]

if it releases april you need to eat a tree

[shy stirrup]

Need a balance of both

[opaque sigil]

Fair, but I'm still curious what TC's spin on a roguelike would be

[storm anchor]

if it releases may then eat a Boeing 747

[cerulean sable]

i mean yeah best of both worlds but like, permanent exploration is my vibe

[shy stirrup]

No point in good enemy and areas if fighting them is lame

[storm anchor]

as the months go by just gradually eat bigger stuff

[cerulean sable]

like its my priority

[storm anchor]

sooner or later you need to eat the entire moon
then earth
then the sun

[shy stirrup]

Same, i dont really like roguelikes/roguelites/roguevanias/rogue whatever the fuck theyre called

[desert basin]

It would be absolutely nothing because TC doesn't make video games

[tame widget]

Then the whole Universe

[shy stirrup]

This is genius, should definitely do this

[cerulean sable]

Im like that squidward meme
I see a good 2d game with good combat

[storm anchor]

if it releases
august of 2028

[cerulean sable]

then i hear "roguelike" i immediately turn around

[storm anchor]

you need to eat everything that exists
every universe out there
you must eat god himself

[desert basin]

That's a gargantuan if

[storm anchor]

become the new god

[spark hinge]

relatable

[cerulean sable]

also honestly while currently playing Ender Lilies i just fucking want my ledge cancel

[storm anchor]

pretty sure you can beat dark souls 100% 5 times before it releases

would it be worth it?
no
is it somewhat decent to pass the time?
fuck no

[cerulean sable]

no child, im trying to dash to avoid getting killed by the stupid poison clouds, not bump into the ledge and pull myself up

[tame widget]

For real, imagine that Silksong take 10 years of development before finally being released

[storm anchor]

seems like team cherry

[desert basin]

Or it just doesn't release at all

[opaque sigil]

Original

[storm anchor]

seems like team cherry

[desert basin]

You say original as if I'm joking

[tame widget]

Team Cherry be like: "yeah so for the post game, you get to return to Hallownest & play Hollow Knight story but seen by Hornet"

[storm anchor]

i question why everyone uses that zote emoji

[cerulean sable]

Im gonna be honest, like actually be honest

Deep within me i wanna see the release just so i can get off how stale this entire community's jokes are at this point

[storm anchor]

talk to the people who make photoshops of the knight with a clown outfit
im sure people find that funny and original
haha

[marsh ibex]

they’re brittle

[desert basin]

Scope creep is a big deal, it has killed many games before

[fiery coral]

is the most versatile emote

[marsh ibex]

there’s nothing left ttacco

every single running gag has been shot

[opaque sigil]

It is very unlikely that SS will be cancelled

[cerulean sable]

for the past 3 years its only been rotating to "Its not gonna come out" or "clown outfit" like jeez either get better material or dont bother making the joke

[fiery coral]

Nothing but dust and echoes

[marsh ibex]

Everyone complains about the same jokes

[storm anchor]

He mentioned the clown outfit
thank christ

[marsh ibex]

and doesn’t make new ones

[split tide]

It’s probably new people making the old jokes

[empty trench]

Silksong is cancelled

[cerulean sable]

arrow the fucking knee jokes

[storm anchor]

its not february
you are the shaw of december
you red bird brain

[cerulean sable]

its like the easiest way to say "see im a gamer too i can make gamer references, the cake is a lie XD XD"

[empty trench]

Lol

[storm anchor]

hollow knight took
how many years to make?

[empty trench]

Done

[storm anchor]

good

[cerulean sable]

around 4 including the port from Stencil

[brave stone]

It was in proto since like 2014

[storm anchor]

and it released 2017 right

[tulip bone]

\ if it takes ten years I'd rather them take those ten years and I'd be very excited to see what they took that time to add and refine. However long they think it needs is when it should come out, and not a day sooner for any reason

[cerulean sable]

old HK looked absolutely shit

like in comparison

[marsh ibex]

the only relatively funny joke I see is jokes about no one looking in livestreams and that’s because people genuinely forget to make that joke because they forget the channel exists

[opaque sigil]

But it was released incomplete anyways

And rushed

[empty trench]

What if it takes two

[tame widget]

they had to restart everything on Unity I think

[brave stone]

yes

[storm anchor]

it looks so much bigger than hollow knight
Tenfold
it wont be as simple as 2 years of development
3 years is generous
team cherry wont deliver

[cerulean sable]

honestly one thing i dont see mentioned often is the amount of work theyve done with the camera (Ari mentioned they spent a lot of time perfecting it in SS according to Edge)

like playing through deaths gambit at one point, the camera is very stiff

[tame widget]

If it take 10 years, they better gave us at least annual news

[storm anchor]

HAH
nice joke

[desert basin]

But do they ever deliver

[cerulean sable]

theres something about HK that just slowly pans around you while still keeping you around the center

[storm anchor]

Fuck no they dont

[cerulean sable]

camera has momentum to it

Deaths Gambit had like (unless you were on map edges) you dead center 24/7

[storm anchor]

i dont like 1 thing
and thats that they got rid of dream diving

[tame widget]

Rip young Elderbug

[opaque sigil]

Dream diving wasn't really fitting, similar issues as godhome

[desert basin]

Give up on the game ever releasing and join the depression division

[cerulean sable]

because they felt like it was

1. too much time to build on for each NPC
2. takes too much time from you actually playing the game

[storm anchor]

i'd buy the game out of spite

ill refuse to play it
and just watch some douchebag play it instead
not worth the wait
far from it

[cerulean sable]

they said the work they didnt use for dream diving was spent on just working on dream nail dialogue

[cunning geode]

don’t tell me you’re one of those people who are like “man, TC is taking forever, I can’t stand it!… but I’m still buying the game”

[tame widget]

nintendo fans

[split tide]

That sounds… counterproductive

[storm anchor]

dont compare team cherry to nintendo

nintendo are significantly worse

[cunning geode]

Begrudgingly giving TC money

[cerulean sable]

before i go tho, im still at the very camp that updates here and there are nice but not necessary and that i hate all of you and your opinions

PS i am disregarding all of your opinions as i am correct anyway

[desert basin]

I'm frustrated as hell but I'm still very excited for the game and will buy and play it day 1

I F it ever releases

[storm anchor]

very annoying to continue waiting for this shit

[opaque sigil]

Sounds like a you problem

[marsh ibex]

So then don’t wait for it and don’t buy it

[storm anchor]

good idea

now i need a new game to get hyped for

[marsh ibex]

but buying something and not playing it is just a waste of your money

[marsh ibex]

man i wonder what your problem is

[desert basin]

Bye bingus, have fun wallowing in hatred

[storm anchor]

thank you
have a wonderful day

[marsh ibex]

could it be that unnecessarily hyping yourself up for games and getting mad when they don’t appear only hurts yourself?

and I’m not saying that I like the year silence, no one does

but like, dropping a game and then asking for a new game to get hyped for right after?

[opaque sigil]

Year of silence is fine

Pretty normal

[desert basin]

It really isn't

[marsh ibex]

You’re allowed to not like a solid year of nothing

You can say “they’re still working on the game” all you like but

[opaque sigil]

Doesn't mean it's unacceptable or whatever

[marsh ibex]

cope harder

[desert basin]

Normal or not doesn't make it acceptable

[opaque sigil]

It is acceptable

[marsh ibex]

*for you

[desert basin]

You're the outlier

[opaque sigil]

Nah most games go that long at some point

[marsh ibex]

it’s not acceptable for everyone

[opaque sigil]

If you've ever waited for a game before, odds are you've experienced this before

[storm anchor]

[opaque sigil]

Because this is normal

[cunning geode]

if you can’t accept that we haven’t gotten news in nearly a year, what do you propose people do about it

Like, what do you actually want people to do.

[desert basin]

It's definitely not been good for the fanbase, we've lost out collective minds

[opaque sigil]

Not really TC's problem if a few people drive themselves crazy

[storm anchor]

more so if its worth the 3 year wait.

[desert basin]

It is

[storm anchor]

noted.

[marsh ibex]

I’m not talking about doing anything about it wombat

[cunning geode]

Not you

[desert basin]

We can't do anything about it, but TC can, and they arent

[storm anchor]

never said anything about telling people to do something about it

[marsh ibex]

I’m saying that people oscillate between either vitriolic hatred for the silence or “this is fine”

[storm anchor]

just kinda brought that up.

[opaque sigil]

TC has no obligation or real good reason to do anything

[marsh ibex]

that’s also not a good mindset

you know

[fiery coral]

Don't forget the "people are entitled morons for expecting news after a year of silence"

[storm anchor]

your banner is terrifying

[silver oak]

I did it joker
I looked

[cunning geode]

Yeah, I hear a lot of people refer to the lull between news as “unacceptable” but like… okay? What are you gonna do about it if you don’t accept that this is reality

[opaque sigil]

Not really talking about mindsets, TC just doesn't have to do anything if they don't deem it worthwhile

[silver oak]

Can I go back

[marsh ibex]

nope

[desert basin]

Those people are worse honestly

[silver oak]

[opaque sigil]

Expecting is one thing, demanding is another

[marsh ibex]

again, forward aerial

[cunning geode]

sorry but, 2D > 6H

[marsh ibex]

I will fight you

[signal crag]

curious dynamic going on here....

[desert basin]

Not demanding anything. But we definitely should have gotten something this year.

[storm anchor]

6H what

[fiery coral]

Is this chess

[marsh ibex]

fighting game stuff

[fiery coral]

No wait chess has the opposite

[storm anchor]

ha
watch 2022 pass without a lick of news
if it does have news 2022 ill put my head in an oven
max heat

[tame widget]

I've bought Hollow Knight late 2020, some people have waited since early 2019 so I can't really say things

[marsh ibex]

It won’t

[opaque sigil]

It might, if there's nothing to say

[desert basin]

I honestly would not be surprised

[silver oak]

In the end, TC hasn’t given us news in a year and may wait even longer before doing so, and people will always complain about it and want news. Nothing we do will speed up the news process and nothing we say will change the minds of those who want news, so there’s really not much point arguing about it.

[fiery coral]

I would be extremely surprised if we have two years of silence

[marsh ibex]

nah I have actual reasoning for this

[vague heath]

Sending this to you when there's news 2022

[storm anchor]

not very surprising but
you do you

[marsh ibex]

this is both the longest stretch without anything, and the game isn’t kickstarted

[opaque sigil]

Sure, it would be surprising. Not impossible, though.

[storm anchor]

Please do, my good sir.

[nimble radish]

if the plan is to market after release they might just do it

[marsh ibex]

Before they were obligated to keep telling us about these things because dead silence for a game that was almost entirely kickstarted is bad

now they have a chance to give us a chance to find areas on our own

[tame widget]

even tho we get news, some people will still be salty because they want the game right now

they are the same kind of people who complain for a game to release asap then spit on it because it has glitches

[opaque sigil]

Also they had no clout or audience

[desert basin]

Wasn't the hornet dlc thing originaly a kickstarter goal? They kinda owe it to those people

[opaque sigil]

Those people will get it for free

[silver oak]

That’s true
And also now they have a much larger fanbase, so every news drop is bound to be more stressful

[nimble radish]

give us screenshots of all the areas we've already seen to see the improvements temam cherry

[desert basin]

Doesn't really mean anything if the game never comes out

[opaque sigil]

It will

[storm anchor]

we've seen some areas already
no harm in showing them again
with any firther improvements

[opaque sigil]

No reason to assume it won't come out

[desert basin]

You don't know that, just like I don't know it won't. We know nothing

[warm bone]

😐 very funny

[opaque sigil]

And news wouldn't change that anyways

[tame widget]

it's not because we don't get any news that the game is cancelled.

Look at Duke Nukem Forever

wait no wrong exemple

[desert basin]

Wasn't trying to be

[storm anchor]

Ayo
Duke Nukem?

Time to kick ass and chew bubblegum?
but you're all out of gum?

[silver oak]

The chance of it releasing is much much much higher than of it not releasing

[opaque sigil]

"TC isn't giving us updates so the game may never come out" is not a strong argument

[nimble radish]

and Im' all outof ass

[marsh ibex]

oh yeah bro

[silver oak]

Especially since they have backer characters and bosses in the game still

[marsh ibex]

They created several areas for no reason

Ysee that’s also a bad faith thing

[storm anchor]

most of the areas i bet they wont use
and will spend time making replacements or new ones entirely
pile more and more and more on top of what is mostly done

[marsh ibex]

They made all those art assets

[silver oak]

But why
Why tho

[marsh ibex]

you know silksong was created because they had too many ideas for base HK and hornet was too big?

[desert basin]

I mean, development could not be going well, we don't know

[marsh ibex]

HK had cut content because they were rushing

[cunning geode]

I’m gonna assume you meant “rooms” and not “areas,” McGringus

[storm anchor]

rooms, areas
rooms i guess
Apologies, Wombat.

[marsh ibex]

and they had money crunches

[silver oak]

Oh that makes more sense

[opaque sigil]

Appeal to ignorance. Shocker

[marsh ibex]

there’s gonna be cut rooms probably but not entire area

[opaque sigil]

TC doesn't have to prove that development is going well.

[silver oak]

Snail village

[marsh ibex]

I mean…they work from home, we haven’t been told anything about covid. Not much could be going wrong

[storm anchor]

P l e a s e

[tame widget]

like the hidden room with the giant white pillbug at the very beggining of the game

[cunning geode]

at least, I can’t imagine any areas of Silksong we have seen will be cut, they all look really solid so far

[opaque sigil]

There will always be unanswered questions about the internal development of silksong. That's fine.

[cunning geode]

Perhaps stuff behind the scenes

[storm anchor]

i wanna see giant snails

[desert basin]

Omg you're one of those "tc doesn't owe you anything you entitled moron" people aren't you

[marsh ibex]

really the only issue would be the music and I don’t think that’s a bad thing

[sinful flare]

What does the source code look like

[storm anchor]

if it has bangers ill forgive team cherry

[opaque sigil]

We don't and shouldn't need to know everything that's going on

[marsh ibex]

We’ve already been given two bangers

[storm anchor]

oh yeeeeah
Ahem, excuse me
W h i c h o n e s ?

[opaque sigil]

Ad hominem. Shocking

[marsh ibex]

goddamn lace slapped me hard

[storm anchor]

moss grotto and lace or

[tardy raft]

Lace and Bonebottom

[storm anchor]

Bonebottom?

[marsh ibex]

lace, bonebottom, moss grotto was pretty good too

[tardy raft]

Moss Grotto is present in the demo as well

[storm anchor]

I like the look of moss grotto

[warm bone]

it's true, they don't

[signal crag]

also theme of Moss Mother, even if there are very few clear examples

[cunning geode]

No

[storm anchor]

Lemme try find the soundtrack...

[opaque sigil]

They owe some backers a final product

[tardy raft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6b-lWhn8pg

[marsh ibex]

idk if sniggles is still working on the moss grotto music arrangement, they probably are unless they got pale courted

[desert basin]

Both of our arguments are baseless because we know nothing about the development. Neither of us have any ground to stand on

[warm bone]

I doubt this person is a backer

[tame widget]

I know that Team Cherry doesn't owe us anything, simple mortals, but I personally do think that small updates on the development are kinda good to prevent a game community from overexaggerating their descent to hell, like what is happening right now

[opaque sigil]

Probably not

[storm anchor]

ooo?

[silver oak]

Bonebottom is so nice
It’s better than Dirtmouth imo

[empty trench]

This discussion is getting cringe

[opaque sigil]

I'm not making an argument based on the circumstances of internal development

[lone bough]

Any news?

[silver oak]

You’re cringe

[marsh ibex]

https://youtu.be/zRs58D34OLY

[tulip bone]

\ a game series I follow once did monthly development blogs. Eventually they petered out into semi-monthly, then quarterly, then stopped updating entirely. Five years after the last development blog, eight years since the previous game, it released, and it was the best of the series by a huge margin. It was worth every day they took on it, and the amount of attention was obvious in every second of gameplay, every mechanic, every corner of the gameworld. Silence isn't a bad thing. It means they're focused on development, and it will show in the final product

[storm anchor]

I swear all of hollow knight songs sound somewhat sad or calming

[desert basin]

Of course not

[empty trench]

We are cringe

[marsh ibex]

nkg be like

[desert basin]

Christ this chat just needs to be deleted

[opaque sigil]

Development will inevitably hit some hiccups, that's fine

[marsh ibex]

I think you need to stop getting tilted over tammo a little

[storm anchor]

Ah
I guess thats fair

[opaque sigil]

Nothing goes 100% smoothly

[cunning geode]

I answered this and you deleted your initial post..?

The answer is no

[opaque sigil]

TC doesn't have to tell us if they hit a setback, they can just handle it

[silver oak]

They’re in denial

[storm anchor]

it'd be nice to tell us what causes a delay
than just delay it

[opaque sigil]

They wouldn't be delaying it

[surreal crown]

I mean you're totally right. It's annoying seeing people here state their beliefs as fact, instead of mere suggestion. This is a speculation thread after all.

[empty trench]

Theres no release date so theres no delay

[storm anchor]

i doubt that for an unknown reason

[desert basin]

Is Tammo always like this? Im not active in this chat normally so I have no idea. They seem not very fun to be around

[marsh ibex]

no

[opaque sigil]

The only reason we would have any cause to expect an explanation would be if a release date was pushed back, and even then they wouldn't really have to tell us

[storm anchor]

i have no idea who tammo is but
im getting mixed signals here

[silver oak]

That’s mean

Tammo’s cool

[marsh ibex]

you are also getting pretty rude

So chill out

[opaque sigil]

If they have to spend an extra day or two fixing something, they don't really need to tell us about that

[marsh ibex]

tammy back off

[warm bone]

tamb

[marsh ibex]

yeah

tammy

[silver oak]

Tambourine

[storm anchor]

t

[signal crag]

lmao

[cunning geode]

I love Silence of the Tambs

[desert basin]

I've never intended to be rude and I apologize if it came off that way.

[high hedge]

Zote keeps appearing in the game for some reason so they keep having to patch him out

[marsh ibex]

it’s fine

[weary vapor]

Is silksong out yet

[silver oak]

No

[storm anchor]

you cant get rid of zote
He is a high and mighty being

[cunning geode]

This is a real herobrine moment

[storm anchor]

wherever you go
zote follows...

[marsh ibex]

imagine being able to tap a button and zote randomly appears in cutscenes, like big the cat in sa2

[tame widget]

now I expect every Hollow Knight updates to end with:

-Removed Zote

[surreal crown]

Ask that infected over there

[storm anchor]

we had mr mushroom so
can we get a zote ending
please

[silver oak]

The “Removed herobrine” was pretty funny tbh

[storm anchor]

Please do
zote is an annoyance
i wouldnt mind removing him

[opaque sigil]

Maybe once or twice

[silver oak]

Mr mushroom 2

[cunning geode]

It never worked either, which was a shame

[storm anchor]

i dont care if he reappears in silk song

[warm bone]

imagine if microsoft made minecraft an x-box exclusive

[storm anchor]

at least i get a year to play hollow knight without zote in my way

[silver oak]

Do don’t like running gags?

[opaque sigil]

Not that running gag, at least

[opaque sigil]

I mean if they could have they might have

[latent mauve]

mr mushroom could be a recurring character

[opaque sigil]

But like once it's on pc you can't really remove it

[storm anchor]

this went from a heated argument about silksong news not being released to talking about herobrine
I like this
This is nice

[silver oak]

They’re already heavily promoting it on game pass

[cunning geode]

I once had some kids try to convince me that Minecraft was originally a mobile game

[warm bone]

aren't they making elder scrolls 6 an xbox pc exclusive

[latent mauve]

ye

[tame widget]

We may see him in Silksong

[storm anchor]

the old mobile game was
very
unique....

[tame widget]

Maybe even Fearless Fox

[silver oak]

I first played it on a phone back in like 2011

[storm anchor]

What would his purpose be
To reveal hollow knight: Zote edition?

[opaque sigil]

Mr Mushroom is kind of a meta character so yeah, he could appear in any TC game potentially

[cunning geode]

Ah, so you were one of those kids. Sorry but you were wrong

[storm anchor]

you play as the mighty zote
you cant attack
the enemies just kinda bounce you around
you're also invincible
the few times you can attack you do 78374823462863 damage
capable of beating radiance in a single blow.

[tame widget]

He seem to make reference to Team Cherry old works so why not

[silver oak]

Oh no, my feelings!

[opaque sigil]

Different iterations of the Master Herald in all future TC games would be a neat little thing

[storm anchor]

I see celeste
Dark souls 2
hollow knight
T w i c e

[warm bone]

those are basically all the same game

[latent mauve]

one can dream

[storm anchor]

Oh nnononononono my friend
you got dream and nightmare mixed up

[tame widget]

Zoteboat real

[storm anchor]

ngl tho
the knight would have been torched if
forest of bones existed

hornet doesnt care
she has obsidian feet

[marsh ibex]

Forest of Bones probably has actual lava

[tame widget]

Hornet is obsidian

[marsh ibex]

As opposed to only hot rocks like deep docks

[storm anchor]

Thats where my question comes in

[latent mauve]

zote would be fine too, precept 48 bbyyy

[tame widget]

not void
nor screen transition
Obsidian

[storm anchor]

HOW
THE FUCK
would there be lava in deepnest
i can only guess that deepnest is quite literally that of an ant nest
but better

[marsh ibex]

like the lava flows in deep docks does fat damage

deepnest could just be closer to a hypothetical core

[storm anchor]

i question what bug lace is
unless she isnt a bug

[latent mauve]

im glad they didnt add FoB, it doesnt fit with the atmosphere of hk today

[storm anchor]

I'd love it

[latent mauve]

looks interesting in SS, and i think itll work better here

[tame widget]

Deepnest is what you see when you move a rock & reveal all the bugs who were under it

[storm anchor]

if it replaced deepnest then i'd be satisfied

[storm anchor]

Ew

[opaque sigil]

FoB might have worked in HK, depending on execution, but it seems better suited to its purpose in SS anyways

[latent mauve]

you mean you dont like all the spike pits and darkness?

[storm anchor]

haha
no

i also dont like spiders

nosk is cool
everything else isnt

[latent mauve]

you aint gonna like ss then haha

[storm anchor]

ah
thats bad
thats real bad

[tame widget]

[latent mauve]

[storm anchor]

hive is one of my favourite areas

[tame widget]

Hive Knight screaming at Hornet for no apparent reason

[opaque sigil]

I kinda doubt SS will have arachnophobia triggers

[storm anchor]

has such a nice aesthetic to it
very small area
B e e s

we never saw wasps
so

[opaque sigil]

Like weavers are very cartoony. Deepnest had some weird skittery stuff that is more understandably offputting

[storm anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/trollge-troll-the-day-of-reckoning-gif-19655212

welp, it was nice talking with y'all
adios

[ripe crest]

good morning chat

[latent mauve]

my guy time travelling

[opaque sigil]

Timezone moment

[empty trench]

Zoteboat moment

[dusty obsidian]

Public animal enclosure-urine-mother

Its the abridged version of zoo-wee-mama

[latent mauve]

i.. im not sure what to do with this information

[burnt topaz]

Chat doesn't understand timezones

[latent mauve]

timezotes?

[warm bone]

wtf is a timezone

[burnt topaz]

[latent mauve]

theres the boy

[burnt topaz]

[latent mauve]

we need a ZB discussion channel

[burnt topaz]

#sk-discussion can be.... flexible

[latent mauve]

its not like theres anything new to talk about

[tame widget]

Help Zote fixing his boat & travel to the farthest lands known to bugs: Botopia!

[burnt topaz]

Bugaria 🥴

[shy stirrup]

hey guys what do u think about tools

[latent mauve]

the perfect game

[latent mauve]

TC just ripped off charms from HK

[opaque sigil]

As an iteration of the charm system I think they have promise

Although I do have some concerns about balancing, but hopefully TC has learned their lesson

[burnt topaz]

Objectively wrong

[shy stirrup]

i hope most tools are actually useful unlike hk

[tame widget]

Tools seems to be chad charms

[latent mauve]

looks like it could be alot more involved as well as combos

[shy stirrup]

discovering combo charms in hk was so cool

[opaque sigil]

Yes, although they were unfortunately mostly novelties at best

[dusty obsidian]

Guys i just hacked into team cherrys computer and saw this:

[opaque sigil]

Although making synergies overly powerful also would be problematic

[latent mauve]

i can imagine alot of the fintuning is making sure one combo cant just zote a boss

[shy stirrup]

god every time i think about this game i just get more and more excited

even though ill probably be 89 when it comes out

[latent mauve]

perfect

they should make zote the second game, i cant wait for the 3rd one to be him

[tame widget]

In Zotebote, you don't have charms nor tools, you just have your ego that you have to upgrade

[shy stirrup]

i wonder if this discord will be kinda quiet when ss comes out cuz i imagine a lot of people will try to avoid spoilers

like im not touching this discord at allwhen ss comes out

[marsh ibex]

it won’t

[dusty obsidian]

The highest tier makes enemies not even bother to attack you, which makes you think that they are scared

[burnt topaz]

The data miners will be busy posting here

[latent mauve]

you just keep building your boat out of thousands of lifeenders

[dusty obsidian]

Then you journey across the zote moat

[tame widget]

speaking of Lifeenders, it can't hurt enemies, you only can push them.

[latent mauve]

the zote boat mote?

[dusty obsidian]

The zote boat moat note

[shy stirrup]

kinda sucks that the mods will get prolly spoiled when ss comes out

[tame widget]

You have to defeat bosses by accident, like they stab themselves with their own weapons, or a stalagmite fall on them at the right time

[burnt topaz]

I'm pretty sure most of the mods are gonna play ss too

[dusty obsidian]

Or they choke on life ender, the zote boat choke

[latent mauve]

some people might get the speedrun achievement first time and those people scare me

[dusty obsidian]

Hmmm

[shy stirrup]

they will but i wouldnt be surprised if a lot of them get spoiled of late game stuff. Especially because trolls are probably gonna start posting unmarked spoilers

[tame widget]

there is a 0,5% chance that Lifeenders deal 1 damage because of the wood splinter

[shy stirrup]

im gonna play the game as slow as possible. literally just take in everything

[viscid moat]

me too

[shy stirrup]

im gonna sit on the title screen for like 10 minutes just listening to the music

[viscid moat]

also gm yall!

[latent mauve]

damn annother time traveller

[burnt topaz]

Gm

[dusty obsidian]

ζφτε βθατ

[tame widget]

I'm just gonna try to kill the big white pillbug for hours just to find out that you only can kill it will tools you get near end game

[burnt topaz]

Dave

[tame widget]

The tool is called the Dave killer

deal 999999 damages to Dave
& 0 to others enemies

[burnt topaz]

D:

[dusty obsidian]

Costs 5000 shell shards to craft, only get one ammo

[tame widget]

You also get an achievement: "The onst whomst ended Dave"

description: you killed Dave, are you proud of yourself?

[burnt topaz]

Thia is particularly funny because you can only hold so many shell shards at once

In the demo it was like 400 I think

[tame widget]

I think it will be possible to get more at once, with upgrades

[burnt topaz]

No doubt

[tame widget]

At one point, it will be like Geos, you don't need them anymore but you keep collecting them

[latent mauve]

im excited to see the amount of builds people come up with, as well as the BS acronyms we start using.

"Alright so to beat WPZ make sure you have the 3CT with ZK, BZ and WW attached"

[digital glen]

Today we are analyzing the Silksong Reveal Trailer 0:14 / 2:09

[lament lotus]

mhm yes very fancy

[pallid girder]

I miss TC calling us “gang” in their blogposts

[latent mauve]

i wonder why theyre bringing hornet to PL

[random wing]

Same

[pallid girder]

Eh?

[eager orbit]

the bugs in that shot are hollow knight fans who found their favorite character

[pallid girder]

What’s FL

[latent mauve]

its not zote, so how can they be fans?

[latent mauve]

pharloom

[pallid girder]

They were always so funny :’)

[pallid girder]

Ah lol

[random wing]

Honestly Singapore and Bellgium are way better names.

[pallid girder]

Hope we get more blogposts soon…

[random wing]

Same

[fallow rock]

why

and now hollow fables thoughts

[pliant jackal]

Any news in 2021?

[digital glen]

Its a tradition at this point

One second per day

Get ready because next 4 seconds are just Hornets face

[pliant jackal]

Has anyone done compilation of all the news we've gotten this year so far?

[pallid girder]

I mean I can summarize it pretty quickly: none

Just Graig saying that silksong is really awesome and TC just keep adding to it

[pliant jackal]

That was fast service, thank you very much.

If someone can gather all the news in 2022 it would be helpful indeed.

[pallid girder]

Tbf the only actual news we’ve gotten are those in the edge magazine but that was almost a year ago

[pliant jackal]

maybe we can have them sorted out somewhere for easy access.

[pallid girder]

If you need a refresher upon what we got to know in the edge magazine, check out mossbag’s vid

Maybe by the end of the year as they did with edge?

That could count as a holiday wrap

[coarse leaf]

I hope they do something at the end of the year 😔

[ocean mulch]

New year's sing-off

[dusty nimbus]

I wish they'd nuke us all that would send us to 2022 with a blast

[tame widget]

Youtube Rewind but Team Cherry

[lucid imp]

It will never come out

[glossy gazelle]

Did they even really do much this year? I mean it’s about to be the Yearless News

[latent mauve]

this years recap on silksong news: nothing

(still love you tc)

[carmine sapphire]

cant wait for february for silksong to not release

[empty trench]

Its releasing on feb

[hasty sundial]

Hopefully

[latent mauve]

theyd for sure have announced it by now though right?

[carmine sapphire]

we could get one on february

[alpine zephyr]

Ss is becoming the new anime s2 that never comes out

( still will wait forever tho)

[barren roost]

there was a dead cells hollow knight crossover?

[carmine sapphire]

ss is that one time when as a kid you ask your mom if you can get something and she says not today

[hasty sundial]

Yeah they did

It was pretty cool

[alpine zephyr]

How get the nail in dead cells?

[surreal crown]

HK's release date was announced 2 weeks before. Silksong could come at any moment reasonably.

[civic timber]

a room in the first biome

[small goblet]

search in first location, but next time #off-topic

[alpine zephyr]

Oh ok sorry and ty

[alpine zephyr]

That’s why I don’t sleep 🙂

[small goblet]

np

[night fog]

this is what i get when i google when is silksong coming out, did team cherry announce anything or is this just some post made to get clicks

[warm bone]

[small goblet]

don't trust game journalists

[gray lance]

Based off the Nvidia leak. Said that Silksong is releasing February 1st. More than likely just placeholder.

[night fog]

oh really? nice

[haughty brook]

Also gaming articles doing shitty clickbait

[gray lance]

If they did want to shoot for a Feb release it makes sense. Would be close to, if not on the anniversary of the game being revealed

[silver oak]

It really doesn’t matter, we’re off topic most of the time anyway

Why is that an moment

[small goblet]

because is the best emoji

[latent mauve]

Its how we feel inside

[wheat sail]

overusing

[random wing]

I have no idea what that emoji even means.

[small goblet]

it means

[random wing]

Is she crying or something?

[tame widget]

agony

[silver oak]

how it cuts like a knife

[static rose]

Is there an explanation for why the silksong demo isn't public

[viral pivot]

probs cause it doesnt reflect the actual game anymore

[cunning geode]

because it was hosted physically at an E3

[small goblet]

possibly because of data miners

[cunning geode]

and yeah data mining is a good reason

[static rose]

Sad

[cunning geode]

cry about it

[small goblet]

like disassembling hk didn't take very long i think, and ss engine is same so i guess it wouldn't be hard to find out everything about ss, tc don't have enough to cut out EVERYTHING mortals shouldn't see

[wheat sail]

I shouldve brought my kit to e3 and sucked the data from the switches

[small goblet]

yes of course there's no one looking at you while you plug your thingy in switch

[static rose]

Ofc ofc

[wheat sail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4bmtG3qA00

[random wing]

Knew it.

[small goblet]

what the fu-

[random wing]

Yes

[small goblet]

well i guess e3 guys learnt something from this and won't let it happen later

[tame widget]

as I said earlier today:

Nintendo Fans

[random wing]

Awkwardly looks around.

[wheat sail]

He didnt actually steal the files but was very close but they closed the booth

its a cool video

[small goblet]

argh spoilers /j

[wheat sail]

hornet sacrifices herself to save pharloom in the end and beats the evil

[random wing]

I doubt that.

[trim estuary]

skill

jk, luck

[small goblet]

isn't it guaranteed on like first or second run?

[pastel nebula]

[tame widget]

[analog vortex]

Another dead cells player

[small goblet]

sounded like dead cells players are fucking monsters

[alpine zephyr]

I only just got the game idk why tbh

It’s on game pass so free XD

[pastel nebula]

You guys are right

[wheat sail]

dead cells players are monsters?

[pastel nebula]

Check vc and you will know why monsters

[empty trench]

Any news

[chilly nexus]

covid cases are up

[burnt topaz]

Where, or just in general

[latent mauve]

where i am atm theyve skyrocketed

[coarse leaf]

same

[burnt topaz]

I haven't been keeping up with the numbers where I am but they can't be looking good after the holidays

[latent mauve]

[burnt topaz]

And it hasnt even been new years yet

[coarse leaf]

in uk we've got double the number of cases compared to when we were at the peak

[hearty plank]

And omicron is getting worse as well

[burnt topaz]

We do?!

[coarse leaf]

idk, we hit pretty high numbers even right before omicron cases, probably just winter

[coarse leaf]

yh lol

[burnt topaz]

Yeah holiday season brings that out of people

I know it gets pretty packed in places during new years and Chinese new years so we've got a good couple of months ahead

[coarse leaf]

and just general cold weather makes it worse