sk-discussion

[fallow rock]

you mean laces brother

[quartz yew]

I wonder if there is a sort of religion these bugs follow? The bug hornet is approaching does look like the church keeper in the mossy grotto, albiet less tattered.

[wheat crypt]

Hi everyone

[alpine basalt]

You what?

[true vine]

kratos bug

[verbal marsh]

wdym by "randomness"

[radiant wraith]

Maybe Trobbio will be a quest?
"Come to this place to deliver an spectacle of a fight etc etc"

[brittle garnet]

Escort Quests would have so many problems in a game like this that I think it's impossible for them to exist without heavy changes to the escort formula

[frank sparrow]

That is because it is the most surface level interpretation of what you described- And yes you could come up with reasons but do the quests make sense like that? Does going to this specific area help Hornet with anything? Does delivering a message or finding something lost or anything accomplish something for Hornet? I don't know if it will like I get your POV and I respect it, you sound like you have thought about it and gave your reasons as to why but I'm sure

idk how to respond like i agree but at the same time

[alpine basalt]

That is a funny thought, That is clearly some bell cult. and that lady is also carrying a fitting staff with bell

[fallow rock]

had a dream where we were talking about a silksong discussion

[alpine basalt]

thats funny

[coarse leaf]

deja vu

[quartz yew]

"There's a guy who won't leave the theater alone. Please kick his ass we need to rehearse."

[brittle garnet]

Oh, then does helping this random guy with defending his house help Hornet with anything?

[frank sparrow]

why would Hornet be defending a man's house

[alpine basalt]

maybe she get dem rosarie strings

[brittle garnet]

Why even do Quests at all? Why help other people?

[quartz yew]

Money

[quartz yew]

Money

[radiant wraith]

I guess it could be a reason why some performer challenges Hornet to a fight to the death. Tho tbh, he probably kills you if you lose but survives if you win

[alpine basalt]

material, skills, rosaries, other useful objects

[coarse leaf]

hornet is a terrible person

[verbal marsh]

So @brittle garnet you think it'll be like the grubs?

[brittle garnet]

Yeah that's my way of saying that this argument:

Does going to this specific area help Hornet with anything? Does delivering a message or finding something lost or anything accomplish something for Hornet?
Is a dumb argument

That's what most quests are, help X person with something

[quartz yew]

I just love to think Trobbio was just vibing and horneg crashed through the roof and immediately just fight him.

[alpine basalt]

hell i dont care if it dosnt help hornet. I love content.

[quartz yew]

Why?

[radiant wraith]

Didn't Hornet try to kill Quirrel?

[quartz yew]

Gotta pay them bills somehow

[coarse leaf]

she explicitly states that she doesn't care if a weakling dies

[brittle garnet]

What would be like the Grubs?

[quartz yew]

Silksong might be a redemption arc.

[radiant wraith]

Typical demigod arrogance

[verbal marsh]

the quests in ss

[brittle garnet]

that's literally what one of the Quests we've seen is

[charred quartz]

the flea conductor and his fleas are the grubs

[quartz yew]

remembers greek mythology Yeah

[alpine basalt]

can u find this?

[haughty brook]

I mean, I see more of a grey morality in Hornet, as she wants to test to see if the vessels are worthy or not, otherwise they could pose a danger to Hallownest if they are prepared to deal with the Infection.

[coarse leaf]

greek mythology is just Zeus getting everyone pregnant

[radiant wraith]

Pale King is a Zeus parallel

[haughty brook]

Greek Mythology is the entire pantheon doing a whoopsy whospy.

[coarse leaf]

the Pale King wishes he was Zeus

[quartz yew]

Woman: Minding her own business
Zeus: Hey babbi gorl~

[alpine basalt]

hmm tahts lovely arch, but that description seems to have lot of possible things to discuss.

[quartz yew]

Greek mythology is drama✨

[coarse leaf]

Greek Mythology is gruesome and fucked up

[alpine basalt]

Singing pilgrims? cursed pilgrims? who are these pilgrims. And why would some "curse", "take over" the pilgrims to attack this guy?

[radiant wraith]

Anyways, Trobbio is coolest

[haughty brook]

They attack the guy because it posted cringe

[wheat crypt]

Norse mythology > Greek mythology

[mortal grove]

isnt there a doc with info against the feb leak

[radiant wraith]

How he fights is one my greatest curiosities about Silksong

[frank sparrow]

yeah but my argument wasn't about defending some guy's house? Like I used your examples because DO they benefit Hornet (and the player) in anyway? We don't know but from the gameplay pov I don't think so (it could be i could be entirely wrong but thats what speculations and theories are all about) it makes more sense to me for Hornet to be escorting someone over some dangerous areas or helping out travellers to their destinations- it progresses the story and map exploration

ALSO WHY IS THE SLOWMODE SO LONG FOR ME WHAT DID I DO
its back to ten

[quartz yew]

Well the kingdom is haunted by silk and song. So maybe radiance 2.0?

[coarse leaf]

i don't know anything about Norse mythology outside of God of War lmao

[alpine basalt]

big msgs?

[frank sparrow]

eh possibly?

[quartz yew]

Hoping it's waltz like.

[wheat crypt]

Fair

[radiant wraith]

Pulls out comically large spoon

[coarse leaf]

Thor was such a chad in Norse mythology, his hammer didn't have an enchantment for the worthy like in Marvel it was just really fucking heavy

and he was obese

[quartz yew]

Thor is fucking brutal in original norse mythology texts and I'm so glad GOW went with that direction.

[frank sparrow]

Norse mythology

[alpine basalt]

maybe the citadel requires silk from all its citizens. and if no silk (heck tax) is given this is the curse, the punishment. SEND THE TAX PILGRIMS HIS WAY!

[quartz yew]

He just pulls out a spoon and fights hornet with it.

[coarse leaf]

Baldur is cool in God of War

[haughty brook]

Norse Mythology is kinda hard to guess because all written record was made after the nordic culture was long asimilated into christianity. There is some of the original text yet but some things are definitly lost. Also, Odin is less Zeus like and more like a vagabond trying to learn stuff. The gods also are more about personalities rather than "roles" is you know what I mean.

[quartz yew]

Silksong is a metaphor for capitalism/j

[normal token]

Trobbio: You see Hornet, this is the part where I pull out a comically large spoon

[wheat crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/spoon-big-spoon-funny-mad-evil-stare-gif-17762991

[haughty brook]

Also Loki is less of a supervillian/satan equivalent and more like the personificatio of trolling. Except that trolling provoqued Ragnarok.

[quartz yew]

No one:
Trobbio when he's losing a fight:

[radiant wraith]

I mean, it's just weird, he's not just gonna punch Hornet, he needs some sort of weapon, unless he uses his voice

[brittle garnet]

they will be like...
The Tasks described in the Quests themselves will be events that exist in the world already. The mossberries you have to gather will just be around places, and you can give them to the guy who wants them without ever looking at the quest board. They will also not be tasks that divert you from the actual gameplay or exploration. So for a gather quest, you won't be like "Hmm now I will go to X room where all the quest items are, gather them and complete the quests". The Quests will be more natural, like picking up the ingredients along the way as you explore the area, not going out of your way to get them.

Hollow Knight and by extension Silksong are games about exploration, first and foremost. So I think Quests will only be tools to encourage and assist exploration. You just be doing them, getting the reward and getting back on track. It's kinda like Nosk, but somebody wanted it dead. You have to find it yourself by exploring, and Quests just give it a reward attached.

[alpine basalt]

he is a performer. A clumsy one. maybe he uses props

[quartz yew]

Yeah. Man gave birth to world enders. That's some achievement.

[radiant wraith]

He is described as a master of the stage, I don't think he'll be clumsy like Zote

[quartz yew]

He fights hornet with a spotlight

[trim estuary]

He’s clumsy but not like zote

[haughty brook]

I think Trobbio is a good performer but a terrible fighter, so he would definitly fight by being over the top and trowing all kind of bullcrap to Hornet.

[frank sparrow]

where can i get me a spoon that big-

[verbal marsh]

Well I think it'll be like the grubs where you see a plant or smth and then have to do some platforming to get it

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/trolling-troll-troll-face-apocalypse-gif-20830139

[radiant wraith]

That's where the comically large spoon comes in

[alpine basalt]

i believe they have mentioned he is a bit silly, and will be fought with clumsy music

[trim estuary]

brimstone elemental

[normal token]

What if Trobbio just dies in 1 hit

[coarse leaf]

calamitas

[radiant wraith]

I haven't read that

[quartz yew]

He hypes it up so much but dies when you slap him.

[sinful chasm]

Chat seems active,did we get news?

[quartz yew]

Maybe he thinks himself as a hero to a play and then does stuff he thinks is cool but looks funny?

[wheat crypt]

Unfortunately not

[quartz yew]

Nah we're discussing quests, bosses and npcs.

[trim estuary]

No we just get active when we’re discussing tools

[radiant wraith]

I mean, he can't be that untalented is what I'm saying

[verbal marsh]

[alpine basalt]

we didnt get news, but i reckon (at least for me) the potential news reignited some hype

[brittle garnet]

What you said is true, however escorting an NPC across the map has so many problems from the technical side, it would be really hard, and imo not rewarding to do. First you would have to:
initiate the escort. The NPC would have to follow you. If you haven't actually been where they want to go, you have to find it. The NPC goes with you all the time. And then there are the questions:
-how will the NPC traverse the map and overcome platforming obstacles
-what would prevent you from going off-track, and just having the NPC with you all the time
-How would you actually prevent the NPC from being damaged? You can't kill enemies fast enough to stop them from moving, most of the time, and your attacks can't stop enemies in their tracks.

The idea maybe sounds alright if you don't think about it, but it's just not really feasible imo.
Perhaps if the NPC could defend itself, it could be more likely, but there is still the problem of traversal and having to go with them or vice versa.

[radiant wraith]

Hornet dies by getting hit with a spoon by some actor

[brittle garnet]

Yeah, I think so too.

[fallow rock]

so spamtom g spamtom

[quartz yew]

Maybe it's more of helping travelers overcome some obstacles? Maybe like "I maybe found a shortcut, but the place is filled with dangerous foes. Could you help me clear the way?"

It'll both prompt exploration and help travelers.

[brittle garnet]

That could make sense, however that particular example would just be a Hunt quest.

[cerulean tree]

waddup

[frank sparrow]

Thats why I'm thinking it's more helping Travellers get past certain areas- or escorting them idk your idea is sound but idk if from a gamplay pov it would work- any quest in any game you get some kind of benefit from it and idk if some of the ideas you pointed out would benefit Hornet BUT that is just my opinion on the wayfarer quest, in the end we dont really know-

[quartz yew]

So maybe puzzles. For example "There's a bridge I need to cross, but someone deactivated the bridge. I don't know where to find the switch. Could you help me?"

[marsh ibex]

My ceiling

[brittle garnet]

I think escorting/tagging along with NPCs will be a thing, since we have evidence for it, but I don't think it will be via Wayfarer Quests. It will be more scripted story events imo.

[cerulean tree]

banger joke

[coarse leaf]

comedy has been achieved

[frank sparrow]

it's possible yeah

we good after our argument? ive never argued so hard before i enjoyed this

[bleak scarab]

Plottwist: In silksong you have the option to be good or evil depending on how good you are to sherma

[brittle garnet]

because in order to make an escort quest you have to build that segment of the game map so that the NPC can traverse it, and imo making a whole Quest category full of handcrafted map segments meant for NPCs to traverse would be a pain.

[quartz yew]

Silksong genocide route when

[frank sparrow]

my first playthrough: Yeets Sherma into the abyss

[cerulean tree]

i'd boot sherma

[alpine basalt]

This is a fr good point, the maps built for hornet. Not any npc. probably anyway

[bleak scarab]

You're gonna have a really (musical?) time

[burnt topaz]

youre gonna have a really offtune time

[trim estuary]

December 13th

[quartz yew]

• Lace

[cerulean tree]

youre gonna have a really sticky time

[quartz yew]

What

[brittle garnet]

Oh, no worries, It was more of a discussion, than an argument. Just explaining each other's points, no hard feelings.

But I do hope we get to fucking kill Sherma

[cerulean tree]

amen

[brittle garnet]

also I hope Hornet fucking kills Lace

[frank sparrow]

it was still fun to find out your pov definitely gave me some ideas for my own game

[cerulean tree]

but mostly sherma

[quartz yew]

I'm tired of defending. I'll let ya'll have your fun.

[alpine basalt]

lovely. 2 people discussing and concluding peacefully. What a time to be on the internet.

[trim estuary]

[bleak scarab]

I hope we get to kill everyone and not just the men but the women and children too

[cerulean tree]

not the dogs though

[trim estuary]

even the dogs

[bleak scarab]

But they're like animals!

[quartz yew]

It'll be visually striking that if you kill lace in the second fight, her blood stains the white roses.

[frank sparrow]

Ghost i shall defend Sherma in your honour even though i want to murder them for the blood gods

[cerulean tree]

spawn of satan

[brittle garnet]

It's just incredulous to me that so many people believe that TC would contradict the entire point of their game with the Quest system

[bleak scarab]

Yess

[bleak scarab]

Too bad, you'll have to defend him from me and everyone!

[trim estuary]

So be it

[quartz yew]

Like if you stay long enough a puddle forms and the roses turn red. (Or purple. Honestly what color are these bugs blood?)

[quartz yew]

Thank you.

[trim estuary]

#savesherma-discussion

[fallow rock]

ah yes the blood wrym need blood form her enemies

[bleak scarab]

"I'll destroy sherma if I get to destroy the kingdom"

[cerulean tree]

grindle would be the type of guy to own an nft

[frank sparrow]

IF ANYONE HURTS SHERMA I WILL SACRIFICE ALL FOR THE BLOOD GODS

[fallow rock]

no'

[bleak scarab]

[fallow rock]

no

[burnt topaz]

we might not have a choice but to not hurt him unfortunately

[frank sparrow]

The blood gods need to be fed people

and it will be all those who dared to hurt Sherma

[cerulean tree]

id do it even if i had the choice

[quartz yew]

He fucking would. Dammit that makes sense.

[cerulean tree]

G R I N D L E N F T

[bleak scarab]

Yea, maybe it's like myla

[frank sparrow]

i dont know how to defend Sherma- this is hard

[wheat crypt]

Silksong is cancelled. TC is making NFTs now

[normal token]

Grindle monkey nft

[cerulean tree]

forget about crushing sherma, grindle nft is where it's at

[quartz yew]

The image that popped in my head when I read that is terrifying.

[quartz yew]

He doing nft's to destroy the kingdom. Grindle is the true villain.

[cerulean tree]

i just imagine a cursed snitchbug monke baby

[cerulean tree]

anyone who owns an nft is a true villain

[quartz yew]

Silksong is a metaphor for anti-nft.

[cerulean tree]

game of the year

[quartz yew]

The final boss you fight has bought over 1000 nft's and you need to destroy each one.

[quartz yew]

HISS /j

[cerulean tree]

bad

[wheat crypt]

No

[bleak scarab]

who made the knight nft

[cerulean tree]

satan himself

[marsh ibex]

it was me

Dio

[cerulean tree]

same thing

[frank sparrow]

alright im heading to bed

night people

[cerulean tree]

night night

[quartz yew]

HO? YOU'RE APPROACHING ME? INSTEAD OF LEAVING THE SS FANDOM YOU'RE APPROACHING ME?

[quartz yew]

Night

[marsh ibex]

I can’t troll the shit out of you without getting closer

[quartz yew]

Oho! Then come as close as you like!

[normal token]

Oh Joker I really have no words to describe these 2 masterpieces? The first one is a terrifingly amazing recreation of the character you use combined by being a monkey, it's aura is indeed threatening. As for the second one it is as amazing as the first. Truly amazing art Joker!

[cerulean tree]

is this grindle's discord account?

[quartz yew]

Grindle invaded discord to spread his nfts.

[cerulean tree]

menace

[quartz yew]

Truly

[cerulean tree]

well ive officialy killed the conversation by talking about grindle nft

[quartz yew]

[high hedge]

Non Fungible Wyrms

[quartz yew]

The radiance wasn't the one who destroyed hallownest, it was PK and his obsession with nfts

[fallow rock]

zote momment

[bleak scarab]

Right clicks

[fallow rock]

but it`s 10:10 AM

[cerulean tree]

the vessels were just failed nft attempts

[bleak scarab]

time zones be wild yo

[quartz yew]

Holy shit

[fallow rock]

yeah fam

[cerulean tree]

people live in different timezones?? shits wack

[bleak scarab]

Oh my god

What have you done

[haughty brook]

People live? Shits wack

[high hedge]

That’s what destroyed Hallownest

[cerulean tree]

i have rewritten the hollow knight lore

[wheat crypt]

People?? Shits wack

[high hedge]

The vessels were nfts omg

[cerulean tree]

P?? shits wack

[high hedge]

That’s why they’re all slightly different

[quartz yew]

Imma leave now. Someone updated a manga I am reading

[bleak scarab]

Cya ghost

[cerulean tree]

holy fuck i think we've actually deciphered the hollow knight lore

[fallow rock]

AND JUST IN TIME FOR "SS-DSISCUSSION GOING OFFRAILS" ^party horn souns^ AND ITS ABOUT TIME ZONES CAN READ FOLKS THIS GOING FUN

[cerulean tree]

i genuinly dont think i've ever actually talked seriously about silksong in here

[high hedge]

What is there to mention at this point on Silksong

[cerulean tree]

yeah thats true

[high hedge]

Kinda need new info to parse eventually

[pale flare]

There’s some new jokes people come up with everyday

[cerulean tree]

like the clown emoji when people are wrong about events right?? thats really funny

[pale flare]

[cerulean tree]

[full rune]

[bleak scarab]

Yea! Like Silknever so funny and relatable right guys?

[pale flare]

Idk guys pretty sure it’s fake

[coarse leaf]

I'm definitely not crying tears of agony

[cerulean tree]

Exactly! so funny just like milksong haha

[haughty brook]

Silksnever was never funny

[high hedge]

🥛

[bleak scarab]

Facts

[brittle garnet]

I'm just really excited for all the extra content TC crammed into the game beyond what was initially planned

[cerulean tree]

wym funniest joke of the community

[haughty brook]

Cynical jokes about the hiatus stop beign funny after three days.

[cerulean tree]

i disagree i absolutely burst into laughter when the 2 words silksong and never get merged, funniest shit ive ever seen

[soft sparrow]

Did someone say Silknever??? Oh boy that joke is hilarious

[livid hamlet]

Haha

[trim estuary]

IKR

[cerulean tree]

i know right its like some rick and morty level humour, some of you wouldnt get it

[bleak scarab]

Ahahahaha!

[soft sparrow]

You have to have a very high IQ to understand it, true

[cerulean tree]

so true so true!!!

[bleak scarab]

jesus christ I just realized lower cased laugh with exclamation mark sounds incredibly sarcastic

[split tide]

I tend to just assume everything is sarcasm by default now

[haughty brook]

I have a lot of problems reading sarcams in both the internet and in real life.

[pallid flare]

ahhahahaaha!!

[cerulean tree]

haha!

[pallid flare]

that sounds so passive aggressive

[burnt topaz]

LOL!!

[pallid flare]

xD!

[cerulean tree]

"thats so funny." also a great one

[glass vigil]

Cool! Sauce please

[cerulean tree]

https://tenor.com/view/marinara-sauce-gif-7173305

[hollow smelt]

Which manga?

[glass vigil]

Nice sauce, I believe it now

[bleak scarab]

See? I'm totally gonna use this from now on

[brittle garnet]

they've said a couple times that the scope of the game has expanded during development, I think Leth said that during his interview with TheIndieGamer, and also Ari said so to a fan he met in a cafe

[coarse leaf]

One thing I’m worried about is that Silksong will have too much content. Like, we know that team cherry is adding a TON of new content to the game, probably pulling all the stops, but what if it’s just too much packed into one game?

[brittle garnet]

What's "too much content"?

[verbal trench]

i dont see why we have to worry about “too” much content, other than maybe storage

[hollow terrace]

100gb silksong game download

[verbal trench]

oh no

[coarse leaf]

Yeah, but I’m getting anxious about Silksong cause it’s taking so long

[small goblet]

well time of the development

[coarse leaf]

That too

[coarse leaf]

I didn't know that Silksong would have 4K graphics, 360 fps and motion controls.

[brittle garnet]

you still didn't answer what you mean by "too much content"

[verbal trench]

hollow knight took around 5 years to make without a huge budget, im sure development time will be alright

[marsh ibex]

HK was also rushed

[coarse leaf]

Like how when there’s just too much packed into a movie, I don’t know, I’m just stressing

[brittle garnet]

and also development troubles

[brittle garnet]

that's not really a problem in games where they aren't limited by the watch time and the player can go at their own pace

[verbal trench]

yeah itll be fine xavier, dw

[short wagon]

Already there are doubts about silkSong's existence

[coarse leaf]

Ok thanks guys

[brittle garnet]

more content is only good in a game like this

[coarse leaf]

True

[brittle garnet]

and also where most of the content is optional

[coarse leaf]

Also true

[verbal trench]

yee

i think graig has stated that the base game was already finished a long time ago, so 90% of the content will be extra percentage

i may be wrong though

[coarse leaf]

Really? That’s good

[small goblet]

so like umm... 912%?

[coarse leaf]

that makes sense...

[verbal trench]

i meant extra as in percentage not required to beat the game

[small goblet]

yeah ik

[verbal trench]

not like, over 100%

[marsh ibex]

he wouldn’t legally be able to say that

he also most likely never said that

[coarse leaf]

Oh, why not?

[hollow terrace]

as far as what TC associates have about the game being finish or being somewhat completed, there has been none

[small goblet]

well idk if this can be considered proof of northirn's words but...

[marsh ibex]

Non disclosure agreements lmao

[coarse leaf]

Ok

[verbal trench]

i just heard from someone else saying a person on the team said it

[hollow terrace]

Literally look at the statement before he said it

He just repeated what a user said

[verbal trench]

i didnt mean “just” as in i right now heard someone say it, i just say it in a part of my language (like i did there)

[ocean delta]

Guys the game is done, believe me, my uncle works at team cherry

[brittle garnet]

I think Graig might have not actually played the game for quite a while, when he spoke about SS after TGA he said that it's "only his opinion", and he's probably busy with his own game.

[uncut citrus]

So

[hollow terrace]

As far as im concerned, game’s not out? game is not finished with development

[jovial oracle]

"too much content" is absolutely a thing.

[uncut citrus]

Over 16h

[brittle garnet]

I mean that people seem to think that because Graig is a playtester he knows everything there is to know about the game in real time, but that's probably not actually the case.

[small goblet]

oh btw, who does even graig work as in team cherry?

[verbal trench]

playtester

[uncut citrus]

They said they were trying not to do that, but « too much content » probably don’t include Side content otherwise HK would have way too much content if you include doing p5AB and RadHoG

[small goblet]

okay, thanks

[radiant wraith]

I won't worry

[stuck loom]

any examples?

[small goblet]

later assassin's creed games

[jovial oracle]

mighty no9

cyberpunk

[stuck loom]

I mean if the content isn't repetitive, will it be too much content?

[radiant wraith]

It's not about the amount of content, it's about not ruining pacing

[verbal trench]

hollow knight had around 100h of content on a casual level, as in playing for the first time up to getting 112% and p5

[coarse leaf]

cyberpunks issue wasn't too much content

[hollow terrace]

Too much content is incredibly vague as shit, could it mean: shallow content, content that’s incredibly hard to reach, no clear direction to said content???

[brittle garnet]

by "examples" they mean "why and how too much content was bad in [example game]", not just the game titles

[small goblet]

if it is interesting and not same like killing everyone in certain spot, then i don't think it is exactly too much

[jovial oracle]

well there needs to be some closure eventually. the main story shouldn't be diluted too much.

[small goblet]

it may be like adding more quests etc, not only main story

[radiant wraith]

I just think it's about pacing, not about amounts. Doing 20 side quests between every main story event is a hit to pacing. But if distribution is right, if the content manages to keep a pace that is engaging it's fine

[jovial oracle]

although I absolutely love the grimm troupe fights, it felt too much like "side content"

[verbal trench]

i think the only time “too much content” could be a thing is in terms of complexity, like having too many abilities to keep track of that the only way to memorize it would be to look in the controls menu, but im positive silksong wont have that

[small goblet]

because it is side content

[coarse leaf]

what's wrong with side content

[modest night]

Side content would fix the too much content issue as well

[small goblet]

nothing unless it is repetitive imo

[stoic path]

I think this was the problem with Ori and the Blind Forest. The main ability, the Bash, was great fun to use, but as we got more and more abilities, it became a fight against my brain to figure out which button does which move, though in the end I mostly used Bash more than the other moves.

[hollow terrace]

I’m becoming a philosopher to figure out what “too much content” means

[radiant wraith]

It has to be managed with care that's all, it's fine as long as you don't always have 30 possible paths to take. It can get overwhelming

[fiery coral]

Window becoming a philosophy student?

[split tide]

I’d say it’s too much if the quality suffers for it

I.e. if the focus becomes on quantity over quality

[fiery coral]

'Candide: Memoirs of a Shark'

[stoic path]

Agreed

[uncut citrus]

It was a dlc, Silksong probably won’t have that because they won’t have « have » to release the game early, they can take allll their time to making it as polish and with as much content they want so there probably won’t be stuff that « feels out of place »

[small goblet]

well they might have dlcs

[hollow terrace]

Yes yes but what if that statement didn’t mean that

[hollow blaze]

when was the last time we got silksong news? ;;

[hollow terrace]

[stoic path]

Well Silksong is technically a DLC, just turned into a full game

[small goblet]

[uncut citrus]

[verbal trench]

edge magazine technically

[radiant wraith]

Problems with games don't always come from rushing you know? More time doesn't mean a perfect game

[hollow terrace]

HOLD ON

[stoic path]

Dec 2019 I think via Edge magazine

[small goblet]

dec 2020 if you include edge

[stoic path]

Oh

[carmine sapphire]

Tc isnt real

[hollow terrace]

I think we cracked the case, silksong itself is too much

[stoic path]

That was dec 2020?

[gray lance]

The concept of "Hey the main story will suffer because of x/y" doesn't really matter in a game like Hollow Knight. You literally go in, kill the dreamers, kill thk, done. The "story" comes from all of the lore sprinkled throughout npc dialogue and world interactions.

More content is great because that means more lore and more story

[uncut citrus]

Eh I’m not worried about other problems, I trust TC to make a good game

[small goblet]

graig was a lie all along

[small goblet]

yep, almost exactly a year ago

[radiant wraith]

I guess

[stoic path]

Damn

[marsh ibex]

I hate lore

[stoic path]

I hope we get SOME news this year.

[radiant wraith]

Pacing can be ruined by being overwhelmed with content

[hollow terrace]

Don’t worry we won’t

[modest night]

you know window like the game tries to go into too many directions but doesn't fully commit to any of them

[normal token]

So true bestie

[stuck loom]

well silksong is introducing quests, and I dont think we know how that affects being able to finish the game whenever

[fiery coral]

Fellow lore mod 🤝

[verbal trench]

we’ve gotten “news” from other people, like someone meeting ari at a coffee shop learning the scope of development became higher than expected, but in terms of official news on the game from the team themself (besides graig. graig is God) we havent gotten anything since edge magazine

[marsh ibex]

I mean the non mods of the server haven’t gotten news

and me

[coarse leaf]

Example: Mighty No. 9

[small goblet]

time to find my clown outfit...

[marsh ibex]

seriously guys what the hell happened to the brunch meetup

[radiant wraith]

Whatever, I'm tired of trying to guess at release dates

[hollow terrace]

A possible answer but what if the point was something else

[stoic path]

Oh, I forgot to take mine off lol

[modest night]

then idk that's what i understand when i hear too much content

[verbal trench]

i dont really understand either

[marsh ibex]

I guess too much content would be…a bloated game?

[fiery coral]

you're not a true philosopher until you overthink everything

[hollow terrace]

buy my book, 'Candide: Memoirs of a Shark' to figure it out

[marsh ibex]

Where it’s just filled with a bunch of content the game itself wears thin?

[radiant wraith]

Too much content is being at a town midgame and having 30 different options to take.

[marsh ibex]

Like stretching a balloon over your mother

[coarse leaf]

How much is it?

[radiant wraith]

It can be too much sometimes

[hollow terrace]

40 bucks

[modest night]

does that even happen? like it's the same as a movie or a book you can pick what to do or where to go or when to stop playing even

[brittle garnet]

Refer to these messages for my thoughts:
#sk-discussion message
#sk-discussion message
#sk-discussion message
TLDR: they will all be optional sidequests

[verbal trench]

i overthink everything daily. they call me aristotle

[marsh ibex]

No we don’t

[gray lance]

Depends on if the content is meaningful or not.

Having every npc have 20 "kill x enemy y times" is definitely bloat.

[uncut citrus]

If I had to guess those big bells Seal would be kinda like the dreamers, unless there’s a real order, you gotta activate like the 5 bells or something before going to the citadel so like even if your free to do which one you want first, you still have some kin of main quest to follow, if you wanna do every other piece of content first probably won’t be « too much »

[coarse leaf]

call me Plato because i will have a mental breakdown thinking about the most menial things

[hollow terrace]

I ace motherfucking English class for a reason folks!

[verbal trench]

dont give me laughing vessel it wasnt a good joke

[stuck loom]

well I dont wanna read too much about the game, but if true that's good

[modest night]

did you ace philosophy class tho

[fiery coral]

🤓

[cerulean sable]

After years of waiting nothing came

[fiery coral]

a fellow nerd

[cerulean sable]

Im a reasonable man get off my case, get off my case, get off my case

[stoic path]

It can feel bloated if too much content is given at once
Like too many paths being opened at the beginning of the game or too many quests at an early point of the game.

[modest night]

i don't think tc would do that tbh

[fiery coral]

Ttacco what song does that reference

[hollow terrace]

Uh no covid kinda stop any attempt at that

[radiant wraith]

This

[marsh ibex]

I’m so sad

[modest night]

it's not like hk told you how many paths you had available you just kinda found it by yourself

[cerulean sable]

https://youtu.be/LwE4LNP8zsI?t=51

[brittle garnet]

it's not really confirmed for the most part (except the names of the types of quests), but that's what I believe the quests will be

[fiery coral]

Hi so sad

[coarse leaf]

Hi so sad, I'm

[marsh ibex]

that’s it I’m leaving this server permanently

[stuck loom]

i dont think that's 'bloated', more like just overwhelming

[fiery coral]

Hi leaving this server permanently

[coarse leaf]

FUCK

[marsh ibex]

that’s the last straw

[modest night]

you guys ever think about what would happen if ss is bad and we've all been waiting for nothing

[verbal trench]

no it isnt thats a message

[marsh ibex]

@coarse leaf stop lurking

[stoic path]

Yeah overwhelming, that's a better word, thanks

[coarse leaf]

no

[cerulean sable]

the 4th Discord civil war starts

[radiant wraith]

No, I don't think about it

[cerulean sable]

and i am going to be the 3rd faction that kills all of you

[marsh ibex]

chad

[heady iron]

it could be an amnesia situation where the first game was only good on accident, and the sequel blows

[fiery coral]

I'll be the one to then betray you and seize power

[hollow terrace]

What if the game never told you about the 20 paths opened after the first section of the game? If… there’s nothing telling you there’s 20 options was there even 20 options to begin with?

[coarse leaf]

please no

[marsh ibex]

Please yes

[brittle garnet]

I'd be disappointed, but it beats waiting for it without knowing

[fallow rock]

what in the living hell is December division mean because we knew silksong not on tga

[coarse leaf]

i'm a halo fan i've been through enough bad sequel trauma

[cerulean sable]

my issue more on content bloat is when shit starts deviating hard from the original game's vision/scope

[coarse leaf]

why am i hearing vsauce music whenever im reading window's message

[coarse leaf]

I mean, everyone in Hallownest is also a Halo fan, so

[modest night]

yeah hk would be considered overwhelming then since it's not linear and doesn't have 1 path, but it isn't because it doesn't bombard you with info and lets you find it out on your own

[verbal trench]

i have no clue what december division even means i just put it in my name cus it sounded cool

[cerulean sable]

its like, playing a minecraft mod based on combat, and then suddenly theres like 15 different mods that implements automation with nuclear power and shit

[velvet ruin]

Team Cherry knows what they're doing, the game looked amazing in the demos

[cerulean sable]

most of the time youre not gonna be touching that other half

[fiery coral]

December Division is the group of people who believe this month still holds SS news

[radiant wraith]

If you go in a direction, get distracted by something cool, get distracted again, take another path again, etc. You end up not finishing anything, and then you are stuck with tens of unfinished paths

[cerulean sable]

December news

[coarse leaf]

But a demo is just a demo

[velvet ruin]

Even if it's not as good as the og HK, it's still gonna be good at least

[coarse leaf]

Anything can happen at that point

[brittle garnet]

#sk-discussion message

[coarse leaf]

I mean, SS won't be as good as HK bcz of your experience with the first game

[modest night]

(understand: the delusional)

[cerulean sable]

it depends on what you expect

if youre looking at the perfect metroidvania then youll get dissapointed ofc

[velvet ruin]

It's pretty different from the first game

[marsh ibex]

kirby and the amazing mirror begs to differ

[radiant wraith]

Perfect is not always the most enjoyable interestingly

[cerulean sable]

but literally if you just went in with "i just want more hollow knight" i doubt itll be worst, if not just different

i fucking hate kirby

[small goblet]

unless? 😳

[uncut citrus]

Theorically yeah, but like the odds that TC mess this up somehow are close to 0

[velvet ruin]

Also there are some games where I loved the sequels much more

Ori 2 for example

[heady iron]

ori wotw is the perfect metroidvania, the creator said so

[hollow terrace]

I hate Minecraft modpacks

[uncut citrus]

Unless...

[brittle garnet]

SS will probably not feel as magical as HK because there was nothing else like HK before, while SS will not be so new and one of a kind

[cerulean sable]

did he unironically say that

[coarse leaf]

minecoins

[verbal trench]

hollow knight good game, silksong maybe good game

[coarse leaf]

That's the thing, I think that people will like SS, but it won't be as iconic as HK bcz it was their first experience with the universe of the game

[stoic path]

That's true. Lots of metroidvanias don't tell you exactly where to go, but guides you towards different paths secretly without telling the player, which HK was pretty good at. Now Silksong is a lot bigger than HK and has introduced things like Quests, Tools and probably sone other things which I have forgotten. It is very unlikely, but it can be possible for Silksong to feel overwhelming at certain points, especially for someone who might be playing a Metroidvania for the first time.

[marsh ibex]

That’s bullshit

[velvet ruin]

Yeah no, but it's a great game

[normal token]

Finally peace is achieved!

[wanton crest]

he said he wanted to do the perfect metroidvania

[brittle garnet]

ye tbh I was kinda doubting it as I was writing the message

[radiant wraith]

They can mess up, I understand you like Team Cherry, but being sure they'll do everything right with just one game made by them as data...

[modest night]

nah there were games like hk before you just haven't played them

[marsh ibex]

Like dark souls

[modest night]

oml

[cerulean sable]

i literally came from DS1

[uncut citrus]

I literally typed the same message word by word unless I said « make » instead of « do » and while I was about to send you sent yours

[marsh ibex]

HK is the dark souls of metroidvania darksouls

[coarse leaf]

dark souls is the dark souls of dark souls

[velvet ruin]

Dark Souls is just 3D Hollow Knight

[verbal trench]

i cant believe dark souls copied hollow knight :/ kinda disappointed in them /j

[hollow terrace]

Elden ring succeeds what silksong fails at… being a bad game

[wanton crest]

i'm a keyboard speedrunner sorry

[coarse leaf]

But like, HK will always be more iconic than what SS will ever be

[radiant wraith]

Depends

[marsh ibex]

Sonia it was a joke please come back

[modest night]

im here

[coarse leaf]

It depends if you played HK before SS, yeah

[radiant wraith]

I can see it deviating enough for it to feel fresh enough

[modest night]

i mean that's why i want ss to feel different

at least they can't fail if they do that

[marsh ibex]

Silksong is most definitely different

[velvet ruin]

Is there anyone who's gonna play Silksong before playing HK btw?

[marsh ibex]

it feels different when I played it at the event

[stoic path]

Ngl, I really like Dark Souls, it had a nice world to explore, challenging enemies and bosses, and-
Wait a second...

[coarse leaf]

probably

[radiant wraith]

A lot of people

[modest night]

the like 100k people who will join the server after it releases surely

[coarse leaf]

i can't believe dark souls invented video games

[modest night]

man we will get more mods by then

feels weird

[marsh ibex]

And the 50k nft bros who’ll join after december 17th

[wanton crest]

mmmh more work for the mods

[verbal trench]

ew

[coarse leaf]

NFT's more like money laundering scheme

[velvet ruin]

What happens on Dec 17th?

[normal token]

If most people will say ss is so much better, newcomers will probably get ss first

[fallow rock]

i want to get on this

[velvet ruin]

Bitcoin crash?

[verbal trench]

nfts more like Fuck you nfts

[brittle garnet]

maybe I'll finally become mod then, after passing up on all prior opportunities I won't cause no prior experience

[coarse leaf]

why would u ever want to be a mod

[fallow rock]

i'm surprized nobody joked about that

[hollow terrace]

Don’t worry we’ll get 10 copies of me! as new additions to the mod team

[velvet ruin]

NFTs more like No Fuck Thanks

[normal token]

When SS releases, nfts will invade

[coarse leaf]

nfts are based

i'm a shark and so is window so i should get mod

[hollow terrace]

No

[modest night]

damn ive almost been a mod for 2 years

[coarse leaf]

But one is smooth and the other not.

[marsh ibex]

True

[modest night]

when am i getting paid

[radiant wraith]

Based on what?

[stoic path]

What is a nft

[verbal trench]

🚳

[coarse leaf]

😔

[normal token]

How many times have you done the by now

[coarse leaf]

That's why you can't be a mod.

[dusty nimbus]

Can I be one of the copies but like the power puff girl during my creation you put too much chaos

[hollow terrace]

No

[modest night]

almost 500 times

[velvet ruin]

Damn there's still people who don't know what a NFT is

[coarse leaf]

can i be a copy i'll bake u a cake

[normal token]

Sugar, spice and everything chaos!

[fallow rock]

DAMN

[velvet ruin]

I guess they don't scroll stuff on Twitter that much, good for them

[tired lake]

You're a senior now

[heady iron]

you should've asked to get paid, zal and ttacco have already been getting paid six figures for the past two years

[coarse leaf]

Damn, 2020 is almost 2 yo

[dusty nimbus]

Damn, well back to the drawing board

[hollow terrace]

You guys are reading the wrong message, I said ten copies of me

[fallow rock]

welcome to endgame challenger

[velvet ruin]

Covid-19 is 2 yo wow

[normal token]

I have been in this server for 3 years and I still don't have mod smh, time to learn hacking

[stoic path]

Void, void, and everything void...
These are the ingredients to make the perfect vessel!

[dusty nimbus]

[verbal trench]

guys its almost earth’s 2022nd birthday get ready to sing happy birthday guys

[fiery coral]

[coarse leaf]

Happy bday planet.

We will be getting news this month.

[dusty nimbus]

[radiant wraith]

The earth will shake under the power of Silksong release

[small goblet]

well it's still 20 days left..

[normal token]

If we both think that, we won't get news

[stoic path]

But the King accidentally added, EMOTIONS, and thus the Hollow Knight was born!

[coarse leaf]

Except I’m always right.

[normal token]

So false worstie

[verbal trench]

and? its always good to be prepared

[coarse leaf]

no politics

[fiery coral]

@ Simo mod apps when

[normal token]

If we do not get news by the end of this month I will leave

[silver oak]

Are you ever just too tired to smile

[brittle garnet]

who are the deleted users here?

[coarse leaf]

victims

[coarse leaf]

…I recognize you… where have I seen you before?

[fiery coral]

Victims of 2FA

[tired lake]

Me

[coarse leaf]

When I smile, my face hurts.

[uncut citrus]

Don’t worry you got a lot of time until silksong release

[hollow terrace]

Water yekane joker wasabi

[dusty nimbus]

Can someone who has been muted before get mod?

[coarse leaf]

dont know

[radiant wraith]

In Fez

[modest night]

joker and yekane both lost their accounts lmao

[silver oak]

Oh right Joker's first account was deleted

[brittle garnet]

ah right

[fallow rock]

what in shitty hell is 2FA

[silver oak]

I didn't realize Yekane's was as well

[verbal trench]

two factor authentication

[stoic path]

Two factor authentication

[fiery coral]

Two factor authentication

[hollow terrace]

IM LAST STANDING IN MY MOD ANNOUNCEMENT BATCH

WOOOO

[fiery coral]

Me snail

[stoic path]

Damn it

[fiery coral]

Last Shark Swimming

[fallow rock]

what is that

[heady iron]

broke: waiting for silksong to release
woke: waiting for i hate dogs and hard liquor to return

[uncut citrus]

Victory royal

[dusty nimbus]

This sounds depressing ngl

[coarse leaf]

:soulLeave:

[verbal trench]

security thing where when you log in, a code gets sent to some other app

[coarse leaf]

easy

[small goblet]

when you authenticate in a 2 factor way

[atomic sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/736153071218065508/872513112648081428/image0-4.gif

[fiery coral]

...now that you say it, yeah

[formal kelp]

[dusty nimbus]

Lmao it's the wrong one

[fallow rock]

like what

[gray lance]

[verbal trench]

tace jus look it up

[coarse leaf]

i'm a megalodon

[stoic path]

Cute

[formal kelp]

and im not an asker

[coarse leaf]

Ok, so, uhh, do you think that the term "metroidvania" is used for a lot of games that aren't really a "metroidvania"?

[dusty nimbus]

Are there others like you?

[coarse leaf]

no i'm one of a kind

[small goblet]

people call ds3 metroidvania sometimes

[brittle garnet]

the term "Metroidvania" is quite vague

[stoic path]

Toki Tori 2 is a puzzlevania

[formal kelp]

vania

[atomic sparrow]

hello Arch_Imedes 👋

[brittle garnet]

hello Andy 👋

[dusty nimbus]

It must be depressing being unable to reproduce and spending your life calling for a mate without you knowing you're the only one of your kind left

[coarse leaf]

I mean, it's a game that isn't linear and it's progress is based on getting items to continue your journey
But even then, that's too vague, yeah

[stoic path]

Literally any game can be considered a metroidvania

[wanton crest]

searching for your shoes and keys before going out is a metroidvania

[coarse leaf]

But like, if that's the thing, why Shovel Knight is a metroidvania?

[formal kelp]

because it said so

[coarse leaf]

I thought it was a 2D platformer

[brittle garnet]

Metroidvania is a style of game, not a genre

[stoic path]

Is it? I thought it was a platformer

[coarse leaf]

Hey, did you see the new Mario Kart metroidvania??

[verbal trench]

a game can have multiple labels

[tired lake]

[coarse leaf]

it's even more sad for you, there are others of your kind and you're still unable to find a mate

Window’s gone?

[hollow terrace]

No

[modest night]

yes

[coarse leaf]

Window is always here

[pallid flare]

damn, what a shame

[coarse leaf]

Window is always watching, never forget.

[hollow terrace]

Well Sonia goodbye then

[fiery coral]

we always watch

[hollow terrace]

hmph

[coarse leaf]

i'm sorry that was mean

[formal kelp]

the dd always watches

[fallow rock]

**HELLO FELLAS TODAY ON THIS EXACT DAY YOU GUYS ARE SEE ME CREATE A HOLLOW KNIGHT AU UNIVERSE!!! **

[dusty nimbus]

How are you so sure?

[coarse leaf]

you're on hollowcord

[modest night]

bye bye window have a nice day

[heady iron]

have a nice death

[hollow terrace]

What

[bleak scarab]

Huh?

[formal kelp]

nice roast

[coarse leaf]

fire in the booth

[fallow rock]

TIME TO DIE

[fallow rock]

hollow knight and bug fables]

[bleak scarab]

Interestingg

[dusty nimbus]

So everyone here is alone too

[formal kelp]

tf is a fug bable

[coarse leaf]

precisely

[bleak scarab]

Yoooo

[brittle garnet]

the only interesting game shown at TGA

[coarse leaf]

riding round in a rover

[surreal mortar]

Horizon and Elden ring

[brittle garnet]

don't care

[coarse leaf]

Cuphead DLC seems really cool tho

[surreal mortar]

🗿

[formal kelp]

whats that

agred

[fallow rock]

AND ALL OF YOU HERE ARE GOING TO HELP WITH THIS ENDEAVOR OF MINE WHICH IS GOING TO HELP A LOT BECAUSE MAKING AU STORY BY YOURSELF WHO HAS NOTHING BETTER TO DUE WITH HIS DAY MAKES IT HELPFUL

[brittle garnet]

(I do think I might get Elden Ring but i suck at Souls games so not sure about that, and Horizon is PS exclusive so it can suck my nards)

[stoic path]

Guys, finding your way to the womb before your brothers and sisters must have been a metroidvania😯😯😯

[coarse leaf]

what

[formal kelp]

fuck

[uncut citrus]

Was that

[dusty nimbus]

[coarse leaf]

that was actually a battle royale dude that was really weird

[fallow rock]

also i'm changing my name

[bleak scarab]

I mean I know nothin bout bug fables but i'll try my best

[coarse leaf]

Most of the games shown in TGA were shooters and games that have ultra-realistic graphics, which is not my thing, so

was halo infinite there

[formal kelp]

yes

[coarse leaf]

fuck yea

[fallow rock]

that was a joke ish

[formal kelp]

im not into games that arent hollow knight

[coarse leaf]

fairs

[fallow rock]

also name change

[clear salmon]

did anyone post about today's gog database update?

[formal kelp]

because clown jokes = peak comedy

[cedar trench]

countdown?

[fallow rock]

it's like hollow knight but paper mario bug version with less depression

[brittle garnet]

literally every game in the Database was updated

[formal kelp]

then I dont really care

[cedar trench]

ill take that as a yes

[formal kelp]

can anyone send me the gartic server btw

im kinda board

[small goblet]

if you are optimistic about 13 dec
if you are pessimistic about 13 dec

[cedar trench]

kinda

[coarse leaf]

I'm not optimistic or either pessimistic

[formal kelp]

I dont believe that the blogpost will be exactly on the 13th of december, but I am hopeful that there will be some sort of blogpost this december

[fallow rock]

new name same fool

[small goblet]

they have to have a rest one day or another

[hollow terrace]

no no no no

[formal kelp]

and from that blogpost I am leaning towards a possible early to mid 2022 release but

[bleak scarab]

We shall always be there!

[hollow terrace]

im waiting for christmas

[formal kelp]

all I want for christmas is

[brittle garnet]

christmas blogpost

[uncut citrus]

Silksong

[small goblet]

"coming soon" tweet

[uncut citrus]

News at least

[fallow rock]

join us window join our division

[brittle garnet]

seems like Leth failed to convince TC to make more blogposts

[formal kelp]

TC isnt the type to leave us in the dark for too long

like they wont show much but they'll show something

[small goblet]

haha

[formal kelp]

it hasnt been 1 year yet

[normal token]

What if we also go 2022 with no news

[small goblet]

10 days more, 10 days less

[uncut citrus]

Unless they do it like in the next few days that’s a year

[formal kelp]

unlikely, but if so, cope

[small goblet]

i don't think so, it'll too much

[formal kelp]

if they dont show something ill just believe the game isnt going anywhere

and then just when I forget, release date

[hollow terrace]

I'll celebrate of having no news for a year

[fallow rock]

windows join our cause

[hollow terrace]

honestly a win win situation for me

[brittle garnet]

the lack of news is helping keep hype in check
the less news the less I think about Silksong, making the wait more bearable

[formal kelp]

if we dont get anything this december then thats just depressing

[small goblet]

strange that still no one made a site "there has been no silksong news for X days" considering how crazy we are going

[coarse leaf]

but it's a lose lose situation for the server as a whole

[formal kelp]

theres a YT channel tho

[fallow rock]

then we all go to TC workspace and twist there legs into making silksong

[brittle garnet]

https://issilksongout.com/

[coarse leaf]

No.

[formal kelp]

ss-discussion organised flight to australia

[hollow terrace]

news in december: i was right the whole time about december being a consistent month of news, no news in december? well I was right for having the prediction of no news in a year

[formal kelp]

this isnt about being right or wrong tho, its about hope and desparation

[small goblet]

oh wait, thanks

[hollow terrace]

it's for the ego boost

[uncut citrus]

There could be news in December but after the 1year Mark, I see this as an absolute win

[formal kelp]

if u need one then thats sad

[fallow rock]

will i be on daily hollow knight: silksong news

[formal kelp]

can we board a plane and fit everyone

[fallow rock]

yes

[formal kelp]

how many people can a plane fit

[uncut citrus]

Then we fight on the plane

[formal kelp]

"TGA might not be a lie"

[digital junco]

[formal kelp]

whats fumo

[heady iron]

fumo nuts

[formal kelp]

[silver oak]

This comment sent me down a rabbit hole of reading every announcement message in this server's history

Does anyone know who the oldest remaining mod is

[coarse leaf]

Simo

[formal kelp]

why r u snailing I was pointing out hes an admin not a mod

[silver oak]

[coarse leaf]

But he was the first one in the moderation team

[formal kelp]

but hes not a mod anymore

[coarse leaf]

But he was

[true vine]

silksong comes out when nth speaks again

[formal kelp]

ok but simo isnt the only admin, so why snail

[true vine]

this is a silknever joke

[silver oak]

what if... what if @ nth

[sinful flare]

I never knew nth existed 👍

Myth nth speaks once silksong is out 👍

[formal kelp]

can I pign them

[silver oak]

I've heard about them but they stopped talking 6 months before my time

[sinful flare]

You probably shouldn't

[formal kelp]

sad

[sinful flare]

But if you did ping nth, I doubt anything would happen at all

[silver oak]

I was so young and naive, one year ago

[coarse leaf]

Character arc:
From a fool to a clown

[sinful flare]

My personality changes once a wek

[brittle garnet]

silksong comes out when TeethyFish speaks again

[coarse leaf]

That is, in 10 years.

[sinful flare]

Silskong comes out when (Random user) speaks agian

[brittle garnet]

[uncut citrus]

Silksong comes out when I speak again

[coarse leaf]

Say something now

[uncut citrus]

Silksong is ou now

[coarse leaf]

Ah yes, Silksong

[uncut citrus]

out*

[silver oak]

silkspeak

[silver oak]

Silksong is oui

[random fox]

Hello.

[coarse leaf]

Silksong comes out when I get to 50 snails in my message.

[silver oak]

You weren't it

[coarse leaf]

That is: It's never going to happen

So, just give up!

[silver oak]

Just post a funny meme during TGA

[hollow terrace]

Be a shame

[silver oak]

what message is that

[hollow terrace]

If someone erased it

But mod abuse is no laughing matter

[coarse leaf]

this

[fiery coral]

uh yeah definitely 😅

[gleaming palm]

Ah what a great sight

[fiery coral]

imagine abusing mod powers haha

[hollow terrace]

[uncut citrus]

Here I linked it

Now time for me to get even more snails

[coarse leaf]

Don't do that

[small goblet]

just 4 more 🐌 ..

[silver oak]

I can give you , take it or leave it

[coarse leaf]

Can I have mod please?

[fiery coral]

The direct approach

[coarse leaf]

[uncut citrus]

That means yes right

[coarse leaf]

HA! No, to be a mod, you need to at least have 15 snails in your message!!

[gleaming palm]

I to this day claim that I was the reason you got this many snails

[small goblet]

🐌🐌🐌🐌🐌🐌🐌🐌🐌🐌🐌🐌🐌🐌🐌 that's enough?

[silver oak]

what

[coarse leaf]

🗿

[fallow rock]

the fuck is this

[silver oak]

I would like to know that as well

[coarse leaf]

The history of how my message became the most snailed message in Hollowcord.

[coarse leaf]

A giant spider profile picture…?

[fallow rock]

no

[coarse leaf]

Yes?

[gleaming palm]

That was the day Pale Knight got the most snails on Hollowcord

[viral orchid]

Is it the 13th that people are speculating that there will be news from Silksong?

[velvet ruin]

There won't be

[true vine]

no

[fallow rock]

it's ill form johknee and ill

[silver oak]

Massive Antagonist Jester

[gleaming palm]

It’s a joke mainly I believe

[heavy dune]

When ss releases and there's a post about it in the discord everyone needs to snail it

[true vine]

YES

[silver oak]

That will not happen

[true vine]

not a very funny one

[silver oak]

The hivemind will be too strong to control

[heavy dune]

The hivemind will snailll

[uncut citrus]

We believe in December news, but the 13 really isn’t more likely than any other day

[true vine]

the newsless year cult doesn't believe

[coarse leaf]

Don’t argue with the people of this channel. Nobody knows what they are talking about. Only I do! And I DEMAND that there will be news this month!

[silver oak]

It kinda is?

[true vine]

you're tired, get some rest

[velvet ruin]

After TGA I'm convinced Silksong is dead

[heavy dune]

Wot

[nimble radish]

yes master

[coarse leaf]

You’re irrelevant, get some homies

[heavy dune]

I will convince you there are 5 lights

[nimble radish]

why are so many of you hypers in the chat today

[velvet ruin]

Holy flukemarm you discovered hot water

[heavy dune]

@teamcherry

[viral orchid]

[coarse leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/heman-skeletor-evil-laugh-evil-smile-evil-grin-gif-18376753

[heavy dune]

*improved

[velvet ruin]

I was a hyper as well before TGA

Now I'm dead inside

[heavy dune]

Tga was a false hope, I never really Believed in it

[spice wigeon]

What happened

[heavy dune]

Uhhh

[spice wigeon]

Good news? Maybe?

[coarse leaf]

Man, TGA hit you that hard in the feels? I know the feeling

But it has happened too often to the point where I no longer feel any shame - and besides, news is still very much possible this month! Just believe, my friend. December is the time where you should retain your hype!

[dreamy lava]

Tomorrow blogspot, I believe

[true vine]

no

[coarse leaf]

Better way to enjoy waiting SS: Don't care about SS until it gets an actual release date

[heavy dune]

The 13th is the anniversary or something right?

[velvet ruin]

I was more convinced this time than for every other event though

[wheat crypt]

Why tomorrow?

[true vine]

it's probably the 12th for them

[dreamy lava]

I'm a HK fan, I just pick random dates based om nothing

[heavy dune]

Keep the hope alive!

[wheat crypt]

Oh, I forgot timezones exist. Gotcha

[true vine]

and for 2 years tc posted a blogpost on the thirteenth of december

not 2020 though

[true vine]

timezones be damned

[nimble radish]

2020 we got something else

[heavy dune]

Edge wasn't that long ago guys

[coarse leaf]

Let me instill some reassurance into you: We have always gotten news in December every year - and later during Christmas, Team Cherry will take their break and probably reach out to us about their progress!

[heavy dune]

(Troll)

[nimble radish]

you're right

[coarse leaf]

Ok, so, uh, Spiritfarer is a good game?

[viral orchid]

The worst year to be a Hollow Knight fan

[true vine]

doesn't mean we'll get news this year

the 13th pattern was broken last year
and the june news pattern was broken this year

so who's to say that we won't go newsless?

join the cult

[velvet ruin]

Even then, Edge was announced around the 14-15th I believe

[nimble radish]

I'm not joining a cult

[true vine]

we speculated it'd be there since early december though
and that's past

[nimble radish]

I'm in a cult, the shut up about news and discuss silksong cult

[coarse leaf]

The pattern was broken, but it was made up for via EDGE. It could keep going!

[hexed prawn]

Come to the 2023 crowd. We have cookies.

[wheat crypt]

If there is news on the 13th I'm reading all 137 pages of the Silksong google doc

[true vine]

we have choccy milk

[coarse leaf]

It's a genuine question

[random fox]

I mean im fairly sure that we will get smth december, even if its just "game delayed to 2022"

[nimble radish]

yeah

[coarse leaf]

I'm interested in the game but idk if it's really that good

[heavy dune]

I need to draw myself a new pfp for Clownery

[coarse leaf]

Join the December News, February Release Institution. We have facts and logic, as well as the correct opinion.

[nimble radish]

we don't have to discuss silksong
we could talk about something else
just not about news please

[true vine]

if fool is in a cult then the cult will never win

[coarse leaf]

Just bcz some game is in TGA, it doesn't mean that it is good

[velvet ruin]

That implies having a release date of sorts, I doubt they'll do that if they're not 100% sure of finishing the game in time

[coarse leaf]

But honestly, I already saw people talking great things about that game, but idk what is that really about

[true vine]

remember that game that had the most stereotypical trailer ever seen? about some magic or something

yeah
perfect example

[coarse leaf]

You’ll never win precisely because you never join my cult! The reason why I always fail is because there are never enough supporters to back me up.

[true vine]

didn't your February cult get really big at one point...?

[random fox]

I doubt we will have to wait until 2023, if they arent giving it to us this year which they prob wont they will prob just say delayed to 2022

[coarse leaf]

Not big enough!

[true vine]

it had like half of ss discussion in it...

[coarse leaf]

We need to go FURTHER.

[true vine]

the hype train would crash if you did that

[velvet ruin]

I said the same thing in 2019 and in 2020

[random fox]

Huge difference between 2 years in development and 4

[velvet ruin]

That's true

[viral orchid]

Silksong spoilers: Hornet will be in the game

[coarse leaf]

I shall serve as the leader for this endeavour that all of us will strive to complete - none of you shall bow down to me, for I am the one who will serve you all. A comrade to his colleagues, we will reign VICTORIOUS!

[wheat crypt]

Source?

[random fox]

Idk why some ppl here think they have 90% of the game unfinished and that it will take them 10 more years

[true vine]

no sources, move on people, just another poorly thought out rumor

[random fox]

Like "oh no news that must mean they just started working on it and it will likely release 2222"

[upper wind]

No shit, you're kidding

[viral orchid]

i am the source 😎

[true vine]

I don't trust you

[coarse leaf]

News! This month!

[random fox]

Untrust worthy source

[unique gazelle]

[coarse leaf]

facts brother,
true my friend

[uncut citrus]

yes when i said "we" i meant like DD cult

[coarse leaf]

The disbelievers will do NOTHING but drag us down!

[random fox]

Btw is 13th tomorow or monday

[coarse leaf]

Ignore those with doubts, for they are led astray.

They have not a single drop of humanity left in them! They have given up hope!

[true vine]

said fool in the december cult

and every other cult

[true vine]

that is accurate, yes

[coarse leaf]

the crowd cheers

[unique gazelle]

How many times did you overhype this place, btw?

[uncut citrus]

also cmon steam, really had to remind me like that

[viral orchid]

Silksong is like Banjo Threeie

Does not exist

[velvet ruin]

I mean, it's better to be optimist than pessimist imo

[coarse leaf]

It’s not overhyping if I am shouting the truth that is overlooked!

[velvet ruin]

Sure you get disappointed really often, but at least you're not devoid of emotions

[wheat crypt]

If you're a pessimist you're either right or positively surprised

[random fox]

please halp

[nimble radish]

pessimists aren't emotionless they just get disappointed less

[coarse leaf]

Soon enough, you can overcome disappointment. I am as alive as ever - even after TGA!

[unique gazelle]

This is the internet, we all lost the ability to feel emotions long ago

[nimble radish]

pessimism vs optimism is stupid anyway
we all believe some things will happen and disbelieve others

[radiant wraith]

We all want the same thing

[wheat crescent]

The next thing will be February Gang?

[random fox]

No, december

[wheat crescent]

After December

[wheat crypt]

February fools

[coarse leaf]

December news, February release!

[uncut citrus]

you mean "L'éspoir de Février"

[wheat crescent]

I'm in

[random fox]

December news january release

[coarse leaf]

after december will be nothing, for we will surely get news this month!

[coarse leaf]

[nimble radish]

it's certainly possible

dutch

[random fox]

This better not be in a language that starts with F and ends with rench

[coarse leaf]

Why must people act so skeptical when they themselves have nothing else to contribute to the conversation?

[random fox]

What

[wanton crest]

engl*sh

[nimble radish]

I'm literally british and you still broke the chain

[uncut citrus]

@coarse leaf i literally already linked this to you with a ping, do you even pay attention to your pings

[coarse leaf]

I assure you all, this is the ONLY way we shall succeed!

[viral orchid]

Brazil>>>>Germany & France

[unique gazelle]

Okay you can say that in easier words Fool

[nimble radish]

she's not english

[random fox]

Anythimg > france

[coarse leaf]

Pings are irrelevant! Only news!

[wheat crypt]

They did reveal the release date for HK 2 months before release, right? That would line up with news this month and release in february

[civic mesa]

GUYS GUYS WOMBO DREAM A.I. DREW ME A PICTURE OF SOME IMPORTANT SILKSONG SPOILERS

[random fox]

Bazil gemany fance?

[wanton crest]

you're all perfides anglois anyway

[velvet ruin]

Bazil>>>>Gemany & Fance???

[coarse leaf]

Two weeks*
But who cares, TC may or may not try out a different strategy.

[viral orchid]

That's what I thought

[wheat crypt]

Oh, ok

[unique gazelle]

So is this just #off-topic2 nowadays?

[nimble radish]

nowadays

[random fox]

Yea

[marble marsh]

mostly

[wheat crypt]

Pretty much

[coarse leaf]

No. This is #News-Imminent-Discussion