sk-discussion

[uncut citrus]

Maybe I should just try to guess actually

[nimble radish]

moon lord

[uncut citrus]

MLs many moonlords ?

Modded two moon lord boss oh alright

[stark estuary]

Oh, you were serious. It's Mantis Lords

[uncut citrus]

Bruh

I actually never heard it

I guess ppls are used to just say « mantis lords » and me as well

[stark estuary]

You know MLs are actually children of PK because their heads look like THK's

[uncut citrus]

Seems legit

I mean hornet’s head looks like THK and she’s PK daughter so that checks up!

[stark estuary]

Yeah

[uncut citrus]

nobody mentions Herrah’s head

Herrah doesn’t even have a head right

[stark estuary]

Yeah she doesn't have a head, that's a mask.

/j

[sacred stratus]

you need a face in order to wear a mask

[stark estuary]

Sarcastic comment

[silver oak]

Hornet looks more like THK then either of her parents

[stuck robin]

Do we have a confirmed release date for ss?

[sinful flare]

How would you react if i said "no"

[brittle garnet]

no

[gray lance]

Yes we do.
Tomorrow.
Always tomorrow.

Forever tomorrow.
Until heat death

[brittle garnet]

tomorrow from n

[serene chasm]

omg team cherry is the worst devs ever and I dont understand game development. I demand I get updates everyday. If not I will assume that they are dead

[uncut citrus]

Cult blacksmith? everyone has a role now bruh

[gray lance]

Team Cherry is actually being manned by a hyper-advanced supercomputer that's generating Silksong using AI

[uncut citrus]

can i be the very much require for a soceity to work role that is meme dealer?

[brittle garnet]

Cyber Ari

[uncut citrus]

got that sick gru||z|| mother one

[silver oak]

They could at least say "we're alive," that would be valid news and be very useful

[serene chasm]

i know right

smh

[vagrant umbra]

You need to drop that PR mindset and appreciate the grindset. They are working on the game and they are alive. If something happens that’s stops development, we’ll get told. Don’t worry.

[normal hinge]

how do you know they're alive

[burnt topaz]

they updated their profile pictures hah gottem

[brittle garnet]

sigma developer grindset
make no mention of release
don't care about the fans
make your game however long you want

[orchid lake]

as much as id like more information, i appreciate the fact that we'll be able to discover a majority of the game on our own

[potent plover]

I envy people in the future that can play silksong

[verbal marsh]

beta fan asks for release date sigma goes into exile

[burnt topaz]

you can envy graig who is currently in the present and can play silksong

[potent plover]

He can?

[burnt topaz]

yeah

[potent plover]

Damb probably signed a/an NDA too

[gray lance]

"When Silksong first released, were you blinded by its majesty?"

[potent plover]

Challenge: Don't get hype when silksong releases

[burnt topaz]

impossible

[potent plover]

when I play silksong, I will be too overfilled with exitment to be good at the game

[glossy gazelle]

99.9% of the server will fail that

[serene chasm]

Im going to fail so badly

[potent plover]

I will also try to limit the hours I can play silksong each day

because I usually binge-play games

[serene chasm]

Same. I think 23 hours a day is a good amount

[glossy gazelle]

I also binge play games

[potent plover]

Yeah, I'm normally 25 hours a day but if I can just control myself-

Anyways, I want to see If I take take a month to finish any ending, becaus I want the experience to take a long time

There is one problem tho

I have 2 friends at school who also really love hollow knight

And will no doubt get silksong when it comes out

[cunning geode]

you will be barred from buying it

[brittle garnet]

It took me like uhh a couple weeks? to beat GRIME, and I'm fairly sure that Silksong will be much bigger

[potent plover]

So I may have to avoid spoilers in real life too

I don't know if the sight of silksong downloading after you buy it will be a bad feeling or good feeling

[glossy gazelle]

I don't have to worry about spoiler irl, but everywhere else will be a minefield

[potent plover]

do you guys think #hk-help will be spammed while silksong is out?

[radiant wraith]

Say goodbye to #sk-discussion for a few weeks or maybe a few months

[cunning geode]

Every channel will be spammed

Including staff channels 👹

[potent plover]

Even Rules-and-info?

[normal token]

Ttacco spams the staff channels

[cunning geode]

He already does

[radiant wraith]

Sucks being a mod tbh, you can't escape the spoilers

[cunning geode]

we can actually

we are under no obligation to be forced to stay and get spoiled on Silksong

[potent plover]

Even mod-mail, More characters means more emote requests

[cunning geode]

I made it sound like some mods are gonna leave for good

I mean that we can take a break to play the game

[glossy gazelle]

I do feel like a good number of mods are gonna actually try to play the game

[normal token]

You guys aren't?

[cunning geode]

now I am leaving because you hurt my feelings

[radiant wraith]

Server shuts down at SS release

[burnt topaz]

its kinda sad to think that when silksong comes out ill leave to play it to come back to this chat being completely different

[normal token]

[potent plover]

Wait do you have to break rosary strings at an NPC or just in your inventory?

[cunning geode]

Prolly not at a specific npc

but it’s possible

[burnt topaz]

theres not much need for doing it anywhere but shops or specific locations anyways

[cunning geode]

This is true

Unless you can bribe enemies

[burnt topaz]

id rather kill the enemies than give up my money

[cunning geode]

But I just feel like, logically, Hornet should be able to break her own rosary strings

The knight had to go to Lemm to exchange items for money because the items aren’t literally made of money

[burnt topaz]

yeah, and having to go to multiple places for both stringing and breaking the strings seems a little too convoluted

[cunning geode]

I think they talked about spending rosaries to string up more rosaries so I think the whole mechanic starts at an npc

But you can break it whenever

I don’t remember it too well

[burnt topaz]

i think they mentioned stringing at npcs and special benches only which makes sense, it adds risk and reward to it

you pay money to save money or you could save that extra bit of money at risk of dying and losing it and thats a choice youll have to live with until you get to another npc or special bench

[cunning geode]

Sounds about right then

[silver oak]

Idk when you can break them as well

If it's at any time it feels like the obvious choice is to have all your money stored

And you may only be able to retrieve rounded numbers, like 10 at a time

[potent plover]

I will turn every single rosary I get into a string, Nobody will stop me.

[opaque sigil]

It is, if you care enough about that extra security to sacrifice what will presumably be a significant portion of your money

[stark estuary]

You underestimate my power

[silver oak]

Yeah it depends on how much it costs

Does it say in Edge?

[opaque sigil]

Edge said 120 -> 100 string iirc

Which is a pretty hefty conversion cost

[silver oak]

So that's 1 rosary to string up 5

[stark estuary]

what?

[opaque sigil]

It's 120 to string up 100

[potent plover]

what?

[hexed crystal]

wait wait wait

[opaque sigil]

Or 6:5

[stark estuary]

what?

[potent plover]

what?

[hexed crystal]

any news we have?

[stark estuary]

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[potent plover]

Nope

[silver oak]

so 100 goes onto the string, and you lose 20
you're effectively only paying 20

[hexed crystal]

why someone has to do that?

[stark estuary]

[silver oak]

20 x 5 equals 100

[opaque sigil]

If you have to spend 20% of your income to string everything that's hefty enough imo to dissuade you from doing it excessively unless you're really stressing about losing money

[hexed crystal]

i already know that "they talked"? where and when?

[silver oak]

I mean it depends at what stage of the game you're in

[potent plover]

So anyway, to increase my game time, I might spend lots of time hitting random walls and looking around in silksong to find hidden areas

[opaque sigil]

20% is 20% regardless of game stage

[silver oak]

I want SS to have replenishable shops to some extent so that you don't run out of things to buy like in HK

[hexed crystal]

would be boring imo, just don't look at youtube and the game will be 100% more fun

[opaque sigil]

imo purchasable shell shards would be a decent option

[silver oak]

Like not everything obviously but purchases that will never run out

[stark estuary]

Can't wait to play SS and see all my theories get confirmed one by one

[opaque sigil]

So like Tuk's eggs but more useful?

[radiant wraith]

Blackwyrm moved to pharloom and rules there

[stark estuary]

That's not one of them

[potent plover]

Can't wait to play SS and see my theories get ruined all at once

[radiant wraith]

No, Blackwyrm IS Pharloom

[silver oak]

maybe the caravan's shop could have some sort of replenisable item sold

which would be thematically appropriate since they're probably moving around the world

so you can restock every time you find them

[potent plover]

Do you guys think there will be consumable items? (Excluding red tools )

[normal token]

I want an NPC in Silksong to run away with your rosaries in a hot spring

[opaque sigil]

idk I just can't think of anything other than shell shards that would benefit from something like that

[silver oak]

Where'd you come up with that idea

[normal token]

My imagination

[radiant wraith]

I want a banking system in Silksong, but it's extremely bureaucratic and you have to fill 8 forms, and go to 3 different offices in order to open an account. And then you have to show your forms every month to retreive your monthly interest

You also have to wait in line to enter the bank

[stark estuary]

I concur with Ian.

[radiant wraith]

Not to mention going in debt to buy tools

[potent plover]

kill the banker

[stark estuary]

The reason Hornet's being hunted is because she committed tax fraud

[potent plover]

turns out they are an overpowered joke character that instakills you and has 1mil HP

[stark estuary]

skill issue

[radiant wraith]

Mortgage your needle to borrow rosaries to buy a special tool

Delay in paying and they take your needle and you lost the game

[analog forge]

nah, the banker dies instantly

but theres 9 other tellers, and they're all like watcher knights

except they attack all at once

[drowsy isle]

alright fun's over

[silver oak]

Fun is outlawed

#sk-discussion is now for serious discussion and speculation only

[pallid flare]

guys do you think that we'll kill sherma? (serious)

[silver oak]

no

[uncut citrus]

eh i dont think we're supposed to help em like how would this make sense

[silver oak]

(serious)

[pallid flare]

(serious)

[glossy gazelle]

Nope. If he somehow dies, I have a feeling it will be completely his fault

[pallid flare]

thank god ||(serious)||

[peak dagger]

||(serious)||?

[tall hinge]

||(serious)||!

[peak dagger]

||(serious)||... Gotcha.

[covert estuary]

anyone know when silksong gonna come out ||(serious)||

[grim forge]

That actually sounds really fun for a boss

[glossy gazelle]

When it’s done ||(Serious)||

[covert estuary]

do you have any idea how much that rounds it down? ||(serious)||

[pallid flare]

well definitely soon ||(serious)||

[peak dagger]

About a million years ||(joking)||

[pallid flare]

we don't do jokes here ||(serious)||

[peak dagger]

Sorry ||(serious)||

[silver oak]

I retract my statement, this isn’t very fun

[pallid flare]

oh... sorry ||(serious)||

[wanton eagle]

what is this ||(serious)||

[coarse leaf]

idk ||(sirius)||

[opaque sigil]

[neat forum]

anyone know when silksong will release ||(satire)||

[carmine herald]

It doesn’t actually exist

It was a fever dream

[opaque sigil]

Original

[neat forum]

[stark estuary]

Hi original I'm

[coarse leaf]

Silksomg is coming out juntember 111th trust me my uncle works at EA

[silver oak]

Necromancer

[digital junco]

when smilksung??????

[normal token]

now

Jk, when it's done

[carmine herald]

Sorry guys its canceled honret died

[digital junco]

this is so sad

[silver oak]

Alexa play Bonebottom (Silksong OST sample)

[burnt compass]

she also shrunk

[digital junco]

shrink from the acid

[carmine herald]

She thought she could swim in the acid in greenpath ||she didn’t even have isma’s tear smh||

[stark estuary]

Grimmchild killed Hornet

[carmine herald]

He would never smh

[stark estuary]

Surprised it actually hit something

[carmine herald]

He actually hits a lot of shit for me, he has saved me multiple times

[silver oak]

Wow
Grimmchild shade

[digital junco]

further evidence of murder

[vale galleon]

guys Im gonna look into the future and find out when silksong releases ok, so Im gonna drop this magic eight ball on my keyboard and see what it says
"erfrbhwkh"
...oh dear

[opaque sigil]

Grimmchild has great accuracy ||in fog canyon||

[normal token]

The most dangerous things known to man:

• Gun
• Chainsaws
  -Grimmchild in Fog Canyon

[carmine herald]

Oh yes, he hits absolutely everything there

[digital junco]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-pubg-loading-sniper-reload-gif-15505006

[silver oak]

Grimmchild has great accuracy ||when bosses are staggered||

[carmine herald]

That too, but he also sniped pure vessel out the air for me once

It was either pure vessel or sly i can’t remember which

[mystic pewter]

grimmchild has a stormtrooper's accuracy anywhere else though

[opaque sigil]

Grimmchild would never hit sly midair, it was PV

But also hitting PV midair is easy anyways

[carmine herald]

Yeah, sly moves like a bath salts addict

[tight linden]

Wasn’t expecting to see Henrick used as recently has November Lel

[vale galleon]

[insert something about silksong here]

[silver oak]

[tight linden]

If it wasn’t for the emotes the name would definitely be forgotten

[covert estuary]

cant wait for silksong to come out

[tight linden]

Citadel Knight is still used regularly tho, glad about it

I haven’t made citadel Knight art in a long time I need to again soon

[opaque sigil]

Citadel Knight kinda makes sense as a name, though, as it's a fair descriptor. Henrick is random enough to be forgettable without the emotes

[tight linden]

Yep.

[covert estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-mr-mushroom-stylerx01-slap-gif-15687782

[normal token]

What about Dave

[tight linden]

Tbf I made henrick completely on the fly so there was no thought. I didn’t even make citadel Knight I just arguably popularized it with my name

[acoustic jetty]

Anyone tried path of pain with grimmchild? Especially with the flying pogo guys?

[normal token]

I haven't and refuse to

[tight linden]

Oh I just saw the Citadel Knight Mercury connection again

Really hope that wasn’t just a wild coincidence, because I think it could be

[coarse leaf]

what is Citadel knight

[stark estuary]

Henrick

[modest night]

I can and will, you won't see me for weeks after the game comes out

so i guess it'll be like normal

[covert estuary]

bbc

[coarse leaf]

kirb r u capable of keeping a pfp for more than 24 hours

[stark estuary]

More like if the game comes out. Silknever amirite || ||

[opaque sigil]

Keeping the same pfp for a long time is overrated

[coarse leaf]

hahahah Hahaha HAHAHHAAH HEEE HEEE HEOOO HEOOOO HEE HOO

[stark estuary]

I kept the same pfp for like 6 months

[normal token]

I sometimes never change my pfp or I change it every hour

[stark estuary]

That pfp being Shine Lord/Inverted SL

And before that I had the Hive Knight stagger for a while

[fiery tangle]

frog song dlc when?
frog canyon when?

[opaque sigil]

I don't remember the hive knight one ngl

[coarse leaf]

i don't think i was in the server for that

[opaque sigil]

Hive Knight stagger is a mood tho

[stark estuary]

I think I had it in July

[modest night]

i kept the same pfp for like 3 years get on my level

[fiery tangle]

ow my back

[normal token]

I remember changing my pfp a lot to Ben 10 aliens as I say watching a Ben 10 video

[fiery tangle]

ive had mine for a while ive just been editing it to add things like christmas hats

[opaque sigil]

I refuse

[stark estuary]

Tammo's pfp changes are actually spoilers for FE games

But you wouldn't realise that without knowing what the spoiler was

[maiden forge]

Bird

[serene chasm]

bird

[tall hinge]

birb

[opaque sigil]

I suppose that's true

[coarse leaf]

berd

[fiery tangle]

ah yes i sure do love non ss discussion going on in #sk-discussion

[maiden forge]

As per usual

[fiery tangle]

i mean, we are in a chat about a game that hasnt been released yet

[maiden forge]

Not much left undiscussed

[stark estuary]

SS discussion is rarely on topic because there's really not that much to say which hasn't been said although the same could be said for #hk-lore but at least lore isn't as active

[modest night]

this channel was created like 3.5 years ago and without off topic convos it would be very dead

[coarse leaf]

i hate #hk-lore

[maiden forge]

Solksong releases tomorrow

[coarse leaf]

and everyone who regulars it

[fiery tangle]

may i ask why?

[stark estuary]

No

What happens in #hk-lore stays in #hk-lore

[coarse leaf]

^

[fiery tangle]

are we gonna get a seprate ss lore channel soon?

[coarse leaf]

probably

[opaque sigil]

When it comes out

[vale galleon]

I imagine when silksong comes out

[fiery tangle]

(and by soon i mean like 50 years becuase thats how long ss will take)

[opaque sigil]

And an ss-help

[modest night]

i hope it won't get a second lore channel

one is enough

[opaque sigil]

Spoilers

[versed pollen]

One is bad enough

[modest night]

true true

[stark estuary]

Powdered said it would

[serene chasm]

I dont see a reason for a second lore channel. SS still takes place in the same world

[modest night]

i don't get how water does it

[opaque sigil]

Don't want SS spoilers in the dedicated HK lore channel or vice versa

[pallid flare]

will we get #ss-help

[modest night]

or we could delete the lore channel

[versed pollen]

YES YES YES

[opaque sigil]

I mean you can but do you want to

[serene chasm]

If you are on lore, you are going to be expecting spoilers.

[opaque sigil]

Not for a different game

[fiery tangle]

why do people hate #hk-lore so much???

[opaque sigil]

Because

[pallid flare]

nerds

[stark estuary]

Because?

[versed pollen]

It's very heated

[opaque sigil]

They don't use it and it's low hanging fruit

[coarse leaf]

please

[modest night]

i find lore to be stupid

[versed pollen]

I managed to last longer in #hk-help then I did in #hk-lore

[opaque sigil]

#hk-discussion is as if not more toxic as lore but nobody says shit about it because people will fight you on it

[pallid flare]

#hk-discussion sucks too tbh

[modest night]

in a way that the game is meant to be interpreted personally and not have a ton of people trying to be right and be toxic when someone has a different theory than they do

[serene chasm]

Its a game set in the same world. People will be discussing how the two games are connected. Seems odd to split the two games and have people jumping back and forth

[vale galleon]

so Im guessing its a good thing this is the only chat I ever talk or even look in

[opaque sigil]

I mean that's not how the channel always is

[stark estuary]

None of you could guess what the lore regulars are actually like when all the rules are taken away

[coarse leaf]

no but u don't understand everything i say is objective truth

[versed pollen]

Looking in a channel here was your first mistake

[modest night]

oh please we get pinged because people disagree sometimes

[serene chasm]

They could also make it a rule that you have to spoil SS stuff for the first few months

[modest night]

i think it's one of the bad channels with hk meme

[opaque sigil]

Yeah there are some people who are dumb about that but that's a small portion of the users

[fiery tangle]

ive been in lore a few times and it didnt seem too bad, maybe just cuz americans were asleep or something

[modest night]

but yeah necessary evil ig because some people actually do like lore

[coarse leaf]

hk meme is terrible

[versed pollen]

I think we can all agree that hk-meme is by far the worst channel

[opaque sigil]

You can find people who suck in any channel if you look for them

[fiery tangle]

yep, its all the same meme

[modest night]

lore kinda encourages that sort of moral high ground tho

the people who know and the people who dont

[opaque sigil]

So does every other channel that's about something

[burnt compass]

i know lore

[stark estuary]

The thing is, Hollow Knight's lore has pretty much been 100% settled by now, aside from a few specific topics. It's a five year old game. Lore isn't about speculating now, but more about reciting what's known. For something to be new, it has to be outlandish and at that point baseless. This gives the impression that #hk-lore is "toxic" when in fact its regulars are actually super chill.

[modest night]

it kinda encourages people to completely drop their own interpretations, that's why i dislike lore youtubers like mossbag

yeah i do like the lore regulars, well most of them

sumwan is super cool

[opaque sigil]

If you don't want to talk about an interpretation (and maybe in the process of doing so encounter problems with it) then maybe don't talk in #hk-lore

[modest night]

i just don't like the concept of the channel

[versed pollen]

I HATE all the lore regulars (I am very racist)

[balmy pasture]

mossbag literally says that not everything he says is correct and that you should explore the lore yourself

[dusty nimbus]

Then go to lore and try to explain something to someone only for a lore regular to come up to you like:

[fiery tangle]

i dunno man balls are pretty belivable

[coarse leaf]

i hate everyone that has even clicked the lore channel

[modest night]

yeah sure but it's astonishing how many people just go oh i just watched mossbag and didn't think about it

[dusty nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-iwin-care-bear-star-power-gif-7867505

[fiery tangle]

(joke)

[opaque sigil]

Not like mossbag is the final word anyways

[modest night]

it isn't

[balmy pasture]

well most people dont care about the lore that much

[fiery tangle]

but cmon, balls doe

[coarse leaf]

Wassup in here

[fiery tangle]

(joke btw)

[modest night]

we're talking about silksong obviously

oh for sure

[opaque sigil]

Probably will

[stark estuary]

tbf 99% of the conflicts in #hk-lore arise from either: people memeing, people repeatedly refusing to acknowledge evidence, people presenting outlandish theories and then generally being assholes when those theories are refuted... It's a channel which has more rules than others, and people don't like following rules.

[coarse leaf]

that's not me

[coarse leaf]

Yhea but what exactly

[pallid flare]

#hk-lore is quite "tryhardy" which it has to be but that's what drives so many away

[dusty nimbus]

[opaque sigil]

Eh it's not like the response is always proportionate

[coarse leaf]

#hk-discussion is the worst no one can congratulate and be happy for others achievements it's just "ok now do it hitless"

[versed pollen]

I'd say the only reason this channel is chill at all is because the time that it's been given to settle. When the channel was initially made it was probably the most toxic channel in the server

[normal token]

I don't take this server too seriously to be in llore

[modest night]

damn i remember when hk disc was nice

[fiery tangle]

i dunno man seem like you to me

[opaque sigil]

God forbid you say anything isn't entirely trivial

[modest night]

that was when the server had 100k less members 🥴

[serene chasm]

They be jealous

[coarse leaf]

no that's not me man

[versed pollen]

I don't but that's because I always try to make it mean

[modest night]

people said it was even better back before the switch port

[pallid flare]

sharky

[normal token]

off-topic is chill, so chill it doesn't have slowmode

[fiery tangle]

understandable have a nice day

[brittle garnet]

Yeah, and the other thing is that if Mossbag says some speculation, now everybody will tend to mindlessly agree and regurgitate his opinion

[pallid flare]

how's it looking in #nitro-boosters

[coarse leaf]

erm

[opaque sigil]

No they're just assholes who need to rub it in people's faces

[serene chasm]

damn switch players ruined everything ||/j||

[balmy pasture]

I get what you are saying but its not really his fault tbh

[versed pollen]

WK roll

[opaque sigil]

mossbag doesn't really hold much sway in lore

[modest night]

it's the people's fault not the youtubers' obviously but still i think it's very unfortunate

[coarse leaf]

the whole channel is just WKroll

[normal token]

[dusty nimbus]

So the time period when the true nuke happened was the best period?
Damn

[pallid flare]

like it should be

[balmy pasture]

honestly I just find mossbag very entertaining dont really care too much about the lore

[modest night]

i prefer keeping a wrong interpretation of the lore than one that's been copy pasted over and over because it's "right" idk it was to piece everything together when i played the game

[opaque sigil]

All channels have problems people just like shitting on #hk-lore because dur hur easy target

[stark estuary]

idk why people think this, most "lore experts" started out in the channel by presenting crackpot theories and having them get mercilessly deconstructed (I am actually an exception )

[normal token]

I think part of what makes hk lore good is that you can make it up to your interpretation

[modest night]

no no the server had like 50k around the time i became a mod

and that was a year and a half ago i believe

[normal token]

So think void killed PK for all I care

[pallid flare]

the "no jokes allowed" rule, probably??

[stark estuary]

I get away with plenty of jokes

[serene chasm]

That too. God Master kinda ruined the community. Everyone became obsessed with fighting bosses and the pantheons. HK should be a game about discovery and not who can kill boss x the fastest. I do hope that TC decides against a pantheon style boss rush mode

[opaque sigil]

People can have their own opinions and interpretations but if you want to talk about them that also may mean talking to people who disagree

[brittle garnet]

Another thing about lore channels is that they discourage fun speculation in favor of only accepting the "true" lore, that is to say the one that most people agree on, and the ones that can be safely infered from dialogue

[gilded adder]

I think the server had like less than 500 people when I joined, don't remember how many there were when I became a mod.

[versed pollen]

Wouldn't people just do hitless runs of the entire game then

[pallid flare]

also, there's a lot of "well how did you miss this incredibly obscure lore tablet which only 0.1% of all players have read"

[modest night]

yeah i would be fine with lore if it wasn't a im right you're wrong everytime someone has a theory and then just look at the big lore doc

[normal token]

I joined this server on late 2018, dunno how much members it had by then

[opaque sigil]

Providing the text isn't an assertion that it was silly to have missed it

[dusty nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/forget-gif-5390518

[opaque sigil]

It's a "here you probably didn't see this might want to take a look"

[modest night]

old

[coarse leaf]

self proclaimed "lore experts" when i explain to them that the blackwyrm is the coliseum and lord fool is it's bug form

[gilded adder]

I am an old man

[versed pollen]

Boomer

[fiery tangle]

i dont see anything wrong with adding another one like it into ss, it may be a little annoying due to those people but nothing wrong with adding more endgame content

[gilded adder]

My bones are creaking

[versed pollen]

I think I joined a little before the server reached 40k members

[serene chasm]

I think we hit 50k in June 2019. When Sonia and Ttacco became mods

[brittle garnet]

speaking of, have you heard my theory that void is the in-universe version of oil, and it forms naturally from Soul in a similar way that irl oil does?

[balmy pasture]

wait rly

[coarse leaf]

yes

[versed pollen]

More than that, they're dissolving

[normal token]

So maybe 30K?

[pallid flare]

remember when we hit 100k

[coarse leaf]

no

[fiery tangle]

nope

[dusty nimbus]

Oh god we'll probably have to do a go fund me since Johnny is going to have problems with cataract soon due to old age

[coarse leaf]

i joined late af

[stark estuary]

Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. Who said a "lore expert" can't be a BlackwyrmBeliever ™️ ?

[modest night]

unironically i remember jokingly talking to friends about how the pale king is a capitalist and void is petrol

[normal token]

14th February 2019 was a beautiful day

[versed pollen]

I remember loving to make the joke that void was oil

[normal token]

The hype was so strong the mods couldn't stop people from discussing silksong in #off-topic

[opaque sigil]

Gotta fund the buzzsaw obsession somehow

[coarse leaf]

blackwyrm believers are the actual lore experts and the others are "lore experts"

[dusty nimbus]

What do you mean "jokingly", those are pure facts

[versed pollen]

cry about it

[stark estuary]

Precisely.

[warm bone]

Lore 🤮

[fiery tangle]

so thats why the pale king was so interested in the void, he was an american

[vestal creek]

Blackwyrm is grimm and if you think otherwise you're not considered a lore expert

[coarse leaf]

he isn't a capitalist because his currency makes no sense and can be easily exploited

[warm bone]

Wait

[versed pollen]

That's just called being a bad capitalist

[fiery tangle]

ah yes money made of the shells of dead things

[stark estuary]

This is an actual theory btw

[balmy pasture]

lore 🤮
gameing 😎

[normal token]

I more wonder how PK actually moves around the castle

[uncut citrus]

[stark estuary]

I just thought of something. There's another being referred to as a King that is rather dark and has been inprisoned in Dreams...

That's right, what if that Blackwyrm reincarnated into Grimm? Which then was banished like the Radiance in another realm, both in the Dream world and the real world. Afterall, he's a (nightmare) king, and surely an Higher Being too. He enthrall other bugs too (what's the grimm troupe?). Maybe that unlike the other light, he accepted his fate and devised a plan to reincarnate yet again instead of trying to forcefully escape.

[vestal creek]

ikr

[versed pollen]

Skill

[normal token]

Issue

[fiery tangle]

for a second i thought this was #off-topic but i looked at the channel bar and remembered that we are in ss discsion

[vestal creek]

yep

[modest night]

wasn't there a guy obsessed with plastic trees at some point in lore

[balmy pasture]

my brain is going to explode

[modest night]

or something crazy like that

[versed pollen]

Someone who lives in a parkour palace would never have a skill issue. The fact that you struggle only means that you are the one with the issue tissue

[normal token]

And how did the vessels with no dash and monarch wings even did White Palace

[opaque sigil]

Maybe shell trees? Because shellwood?

[vestal creek]

skill issue

[stark estuary]

Vessels didn't "do" WP

[fiery tangle]

who the heck is blackwyrm anyway? (other than a server member)

[coarse leaf]

helluva boss

[normal token]

My headcanon: It was impossible until PV installed debug mode

[stark estuary]

Me

[versed pollen]

Pichu I think you're just bad at games

[normal token]

I am

[coarse leaf]

imagine a wyrm, now paint it black

[opaque sigil]

Nothing at all

[fiery tangle]

then why does he have lore?

[brittle garnet]

unironically, this makes too much sense, oil is a black substance found deep underground formed from remains of ancient organisms, and void is a black substance found deep underground as well. If you remember that Soul is present in all living things, and it disperses into the environment when they die, I'd imagine that oil in HK would be infused with Soul to some extent. And soul is life-force, and void seems to have a semblance of life to it. Would be fun if it turned out void is really concentrated ancient soul from the countless remains of creatures that died.

[vestal creek]

Is an absolute crap of a show and I'm using this pfp solely for trolling

[stark estuary]

Except Blackwyrm probably isn't an actual Wyrm

[coarse leaf]

i like it tbh it's funny

[normal token]

Soapi you have not seen my first spider-man 2000 playthrough

[stark estuary]

It could realistically be a place, a formation, a title, etc. Basically anything.

[coarse leaf]

wyrms are a thing

[stark estuary]

But not a Wyrm

[versed pollen]

Of course I haven't, I prefer to stay away from such casual gamers (cringe) like you 😤

[modest night]

also the thing with pale king coming in and exploiting the natives/moth people to build his oil kingdom

[vestal creek]

I mean we can actually see one ingame

[coarse leaf]

no it's a wyrm i was there

[normal token]

Okay stinky

[versed pollen]

Not very nice cringe gamer

[coarse leaf]

the old shiny white guy

[brittle garnet]

It's too perfect

[fiery tangle]

this chatis just turning into #hk-lore again

[opaque sigil]

"The Champion's Call, the Knotted Grove, the Battle of the Blackwyrm... I remember it all. I will carry those glories with me always... until we meet again."
This is literally the only mention of blackwyrm in the entire game and it's just become a meme at this point because of how often it gets pulled into weird nonsense

[fiery tangle]

you became the very thing you swore to destroy

[brittle garnet]

although I don't think PK really exploited the natives and moths

[normal token]

Okay, you're extra stinky

[versed pollen]

I dislike you

[vestal creek]

Yeah I mean talking about ss, I 100% this shit and never touched the save file ever again

[coarse leaf]

i don't think it's a place purely because they put "the" infront of it

[opaque sigil]

He didn't really, he was actually pretty reasonable to them

[normal token]

I dislike you too

[heavy magnet]

what if they DLC 6-12% more in

[vestal creek]

This shit is STRESSFUL

[coarse leaf]

what's stressful

[vestal creek]

They wont, gm was the final dlc

[versed pollen]

Silksong, duh

[opaque sigil]

steel soul

[coarse leaf]

oh right

[fiery tangle]

GUYS STOP THIS CHANNEL IS TURNING INTO #hk-lore YOU ARE BECOMING THE VERY THING YOU SWORE TO DESTROY

[coarse leaf]

ive never been in lore

[normal token]

I started a ss playthrough a few months ago, died at

[vestal creek]

cope harder

[opaque sigil]

#hk-lore ain't so bad

[versed pollen]

In all honestly Steel soul really felt like the type of thing that's: "over-prepare and win" and that's it

[stark estuary]

You can take a lore regular out of #hk-lore but you can't take #hk-lore out of a lore regular.

[fiery tangle]

its you guys who have been complaining about #hk-lore

[radiant wraith]

Saying stop is not a good strategy to stop something

[coarse leaf]

i ripped the #hk-lore out of myself, it was a weakness

[versed pollen]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[vestal creek]

oh good a smart person

[opaque sigil]

Kinda. It doesn't really change anything except make you prepare more because death costs more. At least silk soul will be better, presumably

[vestal creek]

I love you thanks

[normal token]

Shut up they were meanies

[versed pollen]

Game ended

[opaque sigil]

Ideally silk soul wouldn't include permadeath anyways

[versed pollen]

Hopefully it doesn't

[vestal creek]

My first ss death was at the hollow knight and that defeat bears shame to my name to this day

[stark estuary]

Silk Soul more like Silk SUS||(sy baka impostor)||

[normal token]

Hopefully it doesn't

[radiant wraith]

Steel soul is pretty much Hollow Knight but slower. Sad.

[coarse leaf]

ive never died in ss

[opaque sigil]

Would be pretty cringe to make significant changes to the experience and tie it exclusively to a permadeath mode

[normal token]

And you call yourself a gamer smh

[versed pollen]

My first Steel soul death was at the squit pogo in Greenpath 😎

[fiery tangle]

omg same

[radiant wraith]

Speedrun on the other hand is a wonderful achievement, loved doing it

[vestal creek]

da hell you mean slower? This game never been faster than fighting watcher knights without monarchs and shadow dash at 1 hp

[versed pollen]

The strategy is to get monarch wings and shade dash

[coarse leaf]

you generally play steel soul slower and more careful

[versed pollen]

Well, you really just need ddark. Once you get ddark every boss is completely free

[stark estuary]

I liked Steel Soul because there's no annoying Jiji and Tuk is dead.

[opaque sigil]

Or ddark

[coarse leaf]

i HATE tuk

[radiant wraith]

I played the game more passively, hesitated over every fight

[opaque sigil]

ddark busted

[vestal creek]

nah lol I just speedrun this shit

[versed pollen]

Me going to crystal peaks to unlock the win button

[normal token]

My brain: ddark makes me invincible
proceeds to die at WK

[stark estuary]

skissue

[normal token]

Do you guys think there will be a ddark in Silksong

[opaque sigil]

The only bad thing about ddark is crystallized mound which is admittedly pretty bad

[versed pollen]

I hope not lmao

[vestal creek]

My favourite achievment is embrace the void btw

[normal token]

Don't forget pre-lifeblood Flukenest + shaman stone

[vestal creek]

poh is wonderful

[opaque sigil]

There's the parry ability which will probably be broken in the same ways ddark is

[radiant wraith]

My favourite is definitely speedrun 2

[coarse leaf]

the best ending is dream no more

[stark estuary]

My favourite achievement is "Void"

[versed pollen]

I've gone through Mound enough times that is isn't so bad now. But the Crystal gun children dudes are pretty mean

[normal token]

PoH shouldn't have had every single boss tbh

[opaque sigil]

Mound will never stop being bad

[vestal creek]

poh+delicate flower is better

[coarse leaf]

ETV is not better than DNM

[modest night]

probably? i would imagine so unless they find something else to block the progression than breakable ground

[versed pollen]

I think P5 should've head every boss, but in a unique order so the first 3 checkpoints weren't boring as fuck

[stark estuary]

I enjoyed PoH but I prefer DNM as an ending.

[normal token]

That enemy and the one that throws boomerangs in queen gardens are the worst enemies

[vestal creek]

ETVDF is though and that's a fact bro

[coarse leaf]

embrace the void is the most random out of nowhere bullshit dream no more actually feels cohesive

[coarse leaf]

it's alright ig

[opaque sigil]

Oh you mean in terms of quality not good/bad ending

[stark estuary]

EtV with DF is confusing and I hate it

[vestal creek]

respectfully, I disagree

[opaque sigil]

Then yeah fair DnM is the better ending but also because godhome sucks and pantheons are bad

Suck the life right out of the game

[stark estuary]

skill issue?

[versed pollen]

Mfw P3 and P5 are actually cringe

[vestal creek]

skill issue.

[coarse leaf]

godhome is lazy

[normal token]

DNM is the best ending for me

[fiery tangle]

silk spoing

[versed pollen]

I've done All pantheons all bindings, so no it's not a skill issue

[stark estuary]

I jest. DNM is my favourite ending also.

[coarse leaf]

oh you've beat the game? now beat all the bosses in that game but consecutively

[radiant wraith]

p5 is just tedious

[opaque sigil]

Imagine turning an exploration based game into a soulless grind

[radiant wraith]

A waste of time having to kill so many bosses that are no threat to you any more

[normal token]

I for some reason did all bosses radiant too (Don't take this as flexing please)

[vestal creek]

yeah king just give me 30 mins will be done in no time

[stark estuary]

I already knew that, and I have too, but saying "Skill Issue" is an obligation and you know it

[shell yacht]

how can you like dream no more when the mindfuck that is ETV exists to keep you up at night

[opaque sigil]

#hk-discussion moment

[normal token]

Ok I admit in my past I infact did flex there once

[opaque sigil]

cringe

[versed pollen]

It would've been more fun if the checkpoints had balanced difficulty so players didn't fall asleep before beating the pantheon

[normal token]

But you can't find them since this is a new account 😎

[vestal creek]

Oh yeah true

[coarse leaf]

i hate ETV i got the ending and my entire being just went ?????!?!

[radiant wraith]

I don't like ETV because you literally put the whole Break the Seals thing in the trash

[fiery tangle]

honet is sus

[vestal creek]

ALTHOUGH I fucking died at xero twice
Never died at PV or nkg

[radiant wraith]

What do you make me seek the dreamers for?

[fiery tangle]

what does etv stand for doe?

[stark estuary]

One fix people have recommended a ton is having the P5 benches act as actual saves and adding a bench binding.

[opaque sigil]

The weird thing is EtV does kinda make sense but only if you know how everything works, whereas DnM is just kinda like whatever

[coarse leaf]

embrace the void

[fiery tangle]

ok thanmks

[normal token]

I don't understand like what is the difference for etv normal and etv delicate flower

[vestal creek]

YES

[opaque sigil]

No that isn't praise

[vestal creek]

void gone

[fiery tangle]

one has flower and the other dosent

[opaque sigil]

If you don't look into how EtV works it's total nonsense

[versed pollen]

This suffers the same issue as putting benches in PoP. If someone benches, and they can't beat the next checkpoint, what happens then? Do they just have to grind until they somehow do the entire thing?

[opaque sigil]

Give them a way out

[vestal creek]

but it does work as that nerdy lore ending so yes

[shell yacht]

if you do look into how ETV works its also nonsense

[opaque sigil]

eg go left to leave, right to the next fight

[coarse leaf]

the delicate flower makes me want to kill myself why can this random fucking flower do that

[versed pollen]

I guess that might work

[blazing geyser]

EtV is just a stupid mess of numerous "cliffhangers" that seem all dramatic 'oh no!' but in reality based on lore we can reasonably assume that VGFocus would chill in the abyss after escaping like it does as VGForm, and that THK would put up absolutely no fight to Hornet with how weak it is.

[stark estuary]

This is especially annoying in AB where it's 95% filler (aside from Collector) then you die during the last stretch (Markoth -> The End)

[fiery tangle]

honet sussxzy 😳

[normal token]

And fighting THK every time for Radiance can be tedious ngl

[opaque sigil]

Not on the same scale as p5

[coarse leaf]

the knight is actually big now!!!!! and hornet and THK are going to fight!!!!!! what does this mean for hallownest!!!!

[normal token]

Hornet I don't want you shouting every fucking time

[opaque sigil]

THK is made to be easily fightable

[opaque sigil]

Nothing at all

[coarse leaf]

i refuse to attempt P5AB again after dying to PV

[vestal creek]

I love ETV for just how stupid and nerdy it is and you cant change my mind

[radiant wraith]

What if hear me out, every boss before radiance

[uncut citrus]

but if she doesnt you'll never git gud

[stark estuary]

Hornet and THK probably aren't going to fight. But I agree, it's another meaningless cliffhanger.

[fiery tangle]

players: isnt it annoying that we have to fight THK every time we wana fight radiance?
team cherry: NOTED.

[vestal creek]

PHAHAHA BRO

[normal token]

And the most embarrassing part: I thought this was Hornet

[stark estuary]

The problem of EtV is accentuated further by the absolute mess that is Godseeker Mode.

That's Blackwyrm bruh

[opaque sigil]

gsm ain't that bad if you just take it at face value

[vestal creek]

Godseeker isn't canon so no

[coarse leaf]

it is

[vestal creek]

it can't be right

[stark estuary]

It is canon, canonically taking place after EtV.

[opaque sigil]

Lord of Shades returns to godhome for the hell of it.
That's it

[coarse leaf]

canonising Godseeker mode was so stupid

[stark estuary]

And therein lies the problem.

[vestal creek]

fuck my life

[opaque sigil]

Just take it as it is

[coarse leaf]

did the shade lord put the knight back together and climb back in because it wants to do it all again????

[fiery tangle]

is steel soul even cannon? how can the knight have the same thin gbut twice with no shade

[stark estuary]

You don't tell me what to do nerd

[coarse leaf]

steel soul would be the "most" canon mode

[opaque sigil]

Yes I do, dweeb

[vestal creek]

and it is really

[nimble radish]

steel soul is the least canon mode

[opaque sigil]

[versed pollen]

Stolen souls sell for a lot

[nimble radish]

what are we talking about

[stark estuary]

It has the most lore-accurate death mechanic

[fiery tangle]

but then what about the shade trap in the coloseum?

[normal token]

I wonder if SS endings will be a mess

[stark estuary]

But both Jinn and Jiji exist, and in WJ Tuk is alive

[vestal creek]

I really want to make a joke about your nickname but I'm getting banned for it.

[coarse leaf]

isn't canon

[opaque sigil]

idk why they would be

[nimble radish]

[radiant wraith]

Base HK endings weren't a mess so...

[fiery tangle]

THEN WHY DOES IT EXIST??? JUST PUT THE SHADE OUTSIDE THE DOOR OF THE MAIN ROOM

[normal token]

I don't expect them to be, just a what if

[coarse leaf]

sealed siblings is just a giant middle finger lmao

[stark estuary]

So is THK

[fiery tangle]

(the shade trap i mean)

[radiant wraith]

What if? Ending

[stark estuary]

THK ending is the least rewarding shit ever

[opaque sigil]

Sealed Siblings is just there because they couldn't really play ending 1 in its normal form so they needed a variant of it

[vestal creek]

Sealed siblings is the worst ending

[opaque sigil]

Long term it's the same as THK ending

[fiery tangle]

if the shade trap isnt cannon, THEN WHY ADD IT TO THE GAME? you could have just put the shade in the trial picking room

[nimble radish]

it's like, the bad ending

[stark estuary]

Yes.

[coarse leaf]

idk man

[nimble radish]

you know what it's like
dark souls

[stark estuary]

Both THK and SS are "bad endings"

[tall hinge]

madness

[radiant wraith]

At least in one Hornet is free

[tall hinge]

blasphemy

[vestal creek]

no lol, with Hornet seal being on the door and Hornet being inside it means that if radiance breaks out again you cant replace it, also hornet ded

[tall hinge]

heresy

[stark estuary]

The Dreamer Seals aren't meant to keep Rad inside

[opaque sigil]

Hornet not dead
Long term replacing would end up the same anyways

[radiant wraith]

If locking a dreamer inside the egg was a viable strategy they would have done it the first time, I don't think the Hornet seal is unbreakable

[coarse leaf]

why does hornet tell us she can't go in the black egg or she'll die and do it anyway

[nimble radish]

and?

[opaque sigil]

THK could kill her

[coarse leaf]

THK would get obliterated by hornet

[fiery tangle]

in the ETV ending the radiance just sorta poofs while the hk is still in his chamber so then he's just like, "huh? what happen? well i guess i can leave now" and then meets honet

[vestal creek]

But with hornet inside the egg it's impossible to replace the vessel is what I'm saying

[normal token]

I wonder how an infected Hornet would be

[opaque sigil]

Not with her weakened by the egg and THK empowered by Rad

[coarse leaf]

Rads empowerment doesn't really do much

[opaque sigil]

It does

[fiery tangle]

man thk must be incredibly weak if he is this weak while still under rad influence

[stark estuary]

Dreamer Seals can probably be broken from the outside seeing as there's seal-breaking flies which exist in the world. In either case the probability of TK getting replaced is veeeery slim.

[coarse leaf]

it's literally weaker than it was before it took in the infection

[vestal creek]

It's actually negative if we look at thk case

[opaque sigil]

It is. It can barely stand without her

[radiant wraith]

It uses the sword as a walking staff in ETV right?

[opaque sigil]

Yeah

[coarse leaf]

it's honestly a miracle that THK can still fucking walk after all those years

[fiery tangle]

then why does it walk around in ETV ending

[opaque sigil]

What ian said

[vestal creek]

Also like why tf is thk nail broken?

[coarse leaf]

it's joints must be fucking killing it

[fiery tangle]

oh right i guess yea

[vestal creek]

my man was fighting fuckin walls or what?

[fiery tangle]

i mean, he is pretty old, so old he lost an arm

[normal token]

Anyways gn y'all

[radiant wraith]

I like the idea of Hornet waiting outside the egg in ETV and TK never comes

[fiery tangle]

age i guess, same reason he lost his arm prob

[stark estuary]

Wear

[opaque sigil]

Well that was probably from the infection damaging the shell, not age

[vestal creek]

gn

[coarse leaf]

night

[stark estuary]

[opaque sigil]

Not gonna lose an arm from getting old

[vestal creek]

Yep

[fiery tangle]

[stark estuary]

THK's arm probably rotted off yeah.

[vestal creek]

Unless he had a gangrene from smoking infected sigs or shit

[stark estuary]

Vessels don't even age in the biological sense

[coarse leaf]

their shells can probably decompose though

[opaque sigil]

Vessels don't do anything in the biological sense

[vestal creek]

Yeah that's the point of them

[radiant wraith]

Ghosts don't age after all

[stark estuary]

You think?

[vestal creek]

They are still shells

[coarse leaf]

i would imagine so i'm not entirely sure

[vestal creek]

void cant but shells can

[stark estuary]

They're magical, HB-derived shells though

[opaque sigil]

I mean if the shells were gonna decompose in that amount of time TK would probably not be doing great

[nimble radish]

tk can heal if they want

[opaque sigil]

Also much older shells persist, like the ac bugs

[coarse leaf]

oh yea true

[stark estuary]

PK's shell is also still fine and it's assumed he had an indefinite lifespan

[vestal creek]

pk is a higher being bro

[coarse leaf]

can decomposition even happen in the dream realm

[vestal creek]

that's a different level

[stark estuary]

And the Vessels' shells are derived from his

[opaque sigil]

[vestal creek]

they are derived from his soul, not directly from his own shell

[stark estuary]

That wasn't my point. Vessel shells are reffered to as "Pale" and "Holy", they are his biological offspring.

[coarse leaf]

the cast off shell isn't in the best shape and it's just been lying there so something must be decomposing it

[opaque sigil]

From his shell moreso, being the shells of his biological children

[vestal creek]

My head cannon is that pk and wl souls are the shells and void is everything else

[opaque sigil]

That's true in the more figurative sense

[tranquil igloo]

NAHHH FR? DAMN I DID NOT KNOW THAT YOURE A HK LORE EXPERT 🥶

jk

[vestal creek]

you didnt have to go passive aggressive on this.

[tranquil igloo]

I'm playing

[coarse leaf]

hi playing

[vestal creek]

I'm dad

[tranquil igloo]

this is why you're named sharky jk

[stark estuary]

Anyway, Vessels' shells don't show any signs of decomposition, so there's no reason to assume they do. Also, THK was meant to seal rad indefinitely, if it could have just rotted away while it was in there then

[coarse leaf]

i'm not "sharky jk" i'm sharky

[opaque sigil]

If decomposition is a thing it takes a very, very long time

[tranquil igloo]

I edited it because the fucking cool down is fucking 9 secs

[opaque sigil]

like not even just for vessels

[vestal creek]

anyway, I'm gone

[coarse leaf]

hi go-

[radiant wraith]

Bye

[vestal creek]

gn

[coarse leaf]

night

[stark estuary]

[radiant wraith]

We are everything!!

[coarse leaf]

imma head out for a bit too

[stark estuary]

AC shell preservation techniques

[opaque sigil]

I mean there are still plenty of hallownest age corpses that are in decent condition, so around as old as the vessel corpses

[radiant wraith]

Sleep well, SS tomorrow

[signal crag]

maybe a bit later than that

[radiant wraith]

SS relatively soon

[stark estuary]

Silknever.

[radiant wraith]

Silksoon

[gilded adder]

Silkalways

[cunning geode]

Silksolitude

[sinful flare]

silkuhhhidkwhenlmaobutitsgonnareleaseatonepoint

[opaque sigil]

Silkever

[stark estuary]

You missed the 'n'

[opaque sigil]

I didn't

[sinful flare]

he didn't

[stark estuary]

You did.

[sinful flare]

nope

[radiant wraith]

Silkshot

[sinful flare]

i silkshat myself

[opaque sigil]

[stark estuary]

Silk(BIG)SHOT

[nimble radish]

snilkever

[radiant wraith]

Big Silkshot in fact

[sinful flare]

no

notlikequirrl

[stark estuary]

Oh look, we made the same joke. The difference is you are a snail, and I am not.

[radiant wraith]

Yeah...

[sinful flare]

he was just adding

[radiant wraith]

I have an idea tho

Yes.

[stark estuary]

Who's the snail now?!

[uncut citrus]

bruh

[radiant wraith]

Who's the snail now?!

[uncut citrus]

i dont think thats how it works

[stark estuary]

Wait no!

[radiant wraith]

Wait no!

Defeat

[stark estuary]

[radiant wraith]

[opaque sigil]

5D Chess: Discord Edition

[tranquil igloo]

when the godseeker mentions discord

[stark estuary]

True

[sinful flare]

sigh

from the looks of it, we're looking for silksong in space again!

[radiant wraith]

Maybe we'll discover the Silksong on the moon

[stark estuary]

What if Silksong is the moon

It’s been there the whole time, it’s not real, and the government is waiting for the right time to release it.

[sinful flare]

what if silksong is in another solar system

[signal crag]

then that's gonna take a while...

[radiant wraith]

actually I think Silksong is mars. The moon is Hollow Knight, the dark side is Blackwyrm and the light side is the Pale King

[hollow sedge]

1 week left

[sinful flare]

...yeah, a few years if we go as fast as light

[radiant wraith]

I'll be more hype tomorrow when I deflate like a balloon

Not before that

[signal crag]

you really believe tomorrow, huh?

[covert estuary]

ill do one more run of the game

[radiant wraith]

No no, it's just that I deflate tomorrow

[covert estuary]

haven played it in like 2 years, i need to catch up before the sequel

[radiant wraith]

TGA is the release in my religion

[serene chasm]

tomorrow?

[signal crag]

mhm, okay

[hollow sedge]

whats so special about tommorow

[radiant wraith]

I deflate

[signal crag]

just do your thing then

[radiant wraith]

Alright thanks

[sinful flare]

it hasn't happened yet

gigabrain

[winged yew]

that its friday tomorrow

[formal karma]

all fridays mean news, duh

[tranquil igloo]

imagine reading the dialog in hk

[winged yew]

oh thought it meant french fries

[formal karma]

i mean.... now that you mention it I DO eat french fries on friday

usually

i eat french fries on friday as often as there isn't news.....

[low shadow]

Good evening

Where Silksong 🐒

[full rune]

in development

[sinful flare]

where development

[full rune]

house

[sinful flare]

cant fin it

[full rune]

same

[covert estuary]

is silksong gonna have dlc?

and are they gonna cost?

[carmine herald]

Most likely

[dusty nimbus]

It's just the youtube video watching function

[carmine herald]

They deserve the money though

[dusty nimbus]

I don't expect content packs, since the dlcs for HK where for content that they didn't have time to implement

[sinful flare]

Nice

[dusty nimbus]

And silksong seems like it won't have such problem

Pitta, I wanna die

@tall hinge please kill me I am suffering from too much cringe consumption

[pallid flare]

chaos you ok?

[dusty nimbus]

Clicking on the watch together was such bad idea

[sinful flare]

It's just skurry

[dusty nimbus]

Holy Fuuuuuuuuuck

[covert estuary]

i just hope the DLCs are gonna be free, not cos i dont wanna pay but because im not allowed buy expantion packs

[dusty nimbus]

I got aborted due to cringe and I'm out of the channel

[sinful flare]

What

[carmine herald]

Ah good, get in the fryer then

[sinful flare]

Oh god

[dusty nimbus]

Only if it's an air fryer

[tall hinge]

it asked me to let youtube take control of my discord account HELL NAH

im outta there

[dusty nimbus]

I didn't even see that, thanks pitta

I disabled it right away, no way I'm giving youtube authority over my account

[pallid flare]

I hate that they took out all music bots for THAT

[opaque sigil]

You probably misread the terms

[dusty nimbus]

No, I just didn't read them

[pallid flare]

based

[opaque sigil]

pitta

[tall hinge]

Tammo

[serene chasm]

DONKEY!

[sinful flare]

True (Use fredboat while you can)

[pallid flare]

what

[sinful flare]

Fredboat is a music bot and it's still functioning 👍

[pastel nebula]

[trim estuary]

What was it

[silver oak]

🎵 Donkey Kong December 🎵

[proud vale]

DK got buffs yesterday in smash ultimate

[serene chasm]

Nice. All 12 DK players will be happy

[proud vale]

Me included

I reckon he’s the most popular heavy to play

[silver oak]

Are you a smash pro Orange

also does anyone else here watch Dunkey or just me

[serene chasm]

I sometimes watch his videos if they pop up in my recommended but I dont actively follow him.

[silver oak]

I would recommend watching his latest video just for the fact that it's called "Donkey Kong December"

[trim estuary]

Why are you a roomba

[silver oak]

GER

Also do you like
Actively read old GEF posts

[trim estuary]

No

I was looking for Waluigi

[silver oak]

again I must implore
why

[trim estuary]

Was going to ping him and ask “real?”

(He likes DK games)

[silver oak]

who

Fool?

[serene chasm]

Its sad that they never really made that many DK games. And never brought the series into 3D. I bet it would have made a really good 3D platformer

[trim estuary]

Waluigi

[charred pulsar]

Donkey Kong December

[high hedge]

Then it just becomes Banjo Kazooie

[dusty nimbus]

DKD

[silver oak]

Doin a Donkey Kong video every day baby

[uncut citrus]

Reminds me of that time my phone autocorrected to like « pale kong » or something instead of pale king

[naive flax]

Hot Take: Silksong will release a day after TGA.

[dusty kettle]

yo

[warm bone]

https://youtu.be/vC5JnJD9KzY

[trim estuary]

Simple solution: re enable them

[bronze monolith]

Before Summer 2022 is my guess.

[hollow sedge]

December is Silksong's month 🎆

[serene chasm]

you gotta believe

[scenic coral]

feb release easy

[cerulean sable]

fuck i didnt get to update you didnt i?
were winning obvs

[serene chasm]

Soon we shall take over

[rapid topaz]

Hey can I join the TGA cult

[cerulean sable]

finally caved in ey?

Well we still need our resident Import and Export Manager

[burnt topaz]

whats the current list of tga cult members?

[cerulean sable]

so uhhh you can take it if you like doing spreadsheets

#sk-discussion message

its outdated btw

[rapid topaz]

I can be TGA spreadsheeter, no problem

[burnt topaz]

i like how the nvidia leak is in reasoning for formation

[cerulean sable]

not the major one

but its there

[rapid topaz]

tbh most of the argues writed in this message concerning TGA are quite convincing, I mean it's not very significant but I'm still a bit hyped

[coarse leaf]

theres also a comment from graig as evidence

so yh, we're rly scraping the bottom of the barrel

[rapid topaz]

"Lack of clear definitive comment on the said leak by Leth" sorry I'm late but, what does it mean? Leth said something about that?

[cunning geode]

he smiled

[rapid topaz]

oh

[hollow sedge]

surprised I havent joined yet 🗿

[coarse leaf]

someone asked him to comment on the leak and he said no, i think

[rapid topaz]

secrets

[hollow sedge]

the leak doesn't mean much, lotta inconsistencies

[coarse leaf]

probably

[rapid topaz]

Isn't there this side-project called Fearless Fox too, that would be cool to see news of what this game is about

[burnt topaz]

thats probably not coming for a while

if we arent getting any silksong news, fearless fox news wont be here until long after silksongs release

[rapid topaz]

I think It's not that uncommon to work of another project at the same time as the main one, but I understand the reasoning. Silksong is particularily greatly awaited I don't know why they would continue Fearless Fox in the same time

[olive bobcat]

FF news 1 week after SS's release

[burnt topaz]

and then tc goes dormant for 4 years

[rapid topaz]

In my opinion it's probably just something they wanted to experiment with ideas that doesn't fit in SS

[olive bobcat]

Ngl Amina from an angle I thought your pfp was Remy the Rat

[burnt topaz]

i am remy

[olive bobcat]

No fucking way

[burnt topaz]

remy i make the ratatouille

[olive bobcat]

"Now, we don't know if TC is alive or dead until I open the blogpost"
"I make-a da Silksong"
"Shut up"

[cerulean sable]

we just need update TC

"were alive"

ok thats nice anyway dcan you g8ive us a timeframe please like a release date or how mahy percent the game is done please i just want a relase date

[olive bobcat]

Were not we're therefore they are dead

[rapid topaz]

worst thing to realize is that half of December sounds like half of Deception

[coarse leaf]

didn't even release ss b4 they died, smh, no consideration

[random granite]

Just put SS in a box and it's either finished or still in development until TC opens it

[rapid topaz]

they better develop an AI that develops games automaticaly

[olive bobcat]

"Hey gang, just a quick update today. We are on our deathbeds. Silksong will pick up development by ICLA. Team Cherry out."

[coarse leaf]

icla?

[olive bobcat]

BDSP and Pokemon HOME devs

[coarse leaf]

ohhh right

i looked it up and was like why tf would the international commercial law alliance develop ss

[trim estuary]

i cooka da meatball

[coarse leaf]

I wonder if silk song will have dlc like hollow knight did

[opaque sigil]

Not like Hollow Knight did, if at all (which is unlikely imo)

[trim estuary]

prob not

[opaque sigil]

HK's updates were the product of an inability to fully complete the game prior to release

[trim estuary]

they might be like "oh that would be cool to add" after releasing silksong

doubt it tho

[opaque sigil]

I mean they probably want to get on with their next project

[red girder]

wait for legit team cherry is done

[serene chasm]

No. Did anyone say that

[languid linden]

With Silksong? We don't know that. It might be true, it might not

[red girder]

o ok

[heady jolt]

i think its definitely safe to say a majority of silksong is done however theres probably still work+playtesting to do

could always be the possibility that they are mostly finished and are just waiting for tga to announce release but i doubt that

[gleaming palm]

Honestly I’d be ok with no Silksong dlc. Kinda want to see what that “fearless fox” game that they copyrighted the name for would be

As long as Silksong is a complete game, then dlc is just an add on that isn’t necessary to have a good experience

[trim estuary]

Simo is playtesting silksong again

[opaque sigil]

Possibly