#sk-discussion
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Your all remembering to pray for silksong every night right before you turn on your hornet nightlights… right?
Totally fine
But there's no news
ofcourse
I feel so much nostalgia whenever I go into my old silksong sacrifical chamber, where I would sacrifice human victims to further the progress of silksong
ofcourse, all who dont should be hung by their entrails and their corpse paraded throughout the city
good times, good times
You shouldn’t have brought that up… ohhhhh those sweet sweet memories
Do you know how many souls that update costed?
that was like 5 months ago 
It was hard work
no it wasnt???
it was like 2 weeks ago
have we sacrificed enough souls for news at tga
It was April 
you sure?
Possibly…
Unless they did it again since
More work is needed to secure ourselves
i took this on the 10th and the next one today
pog
unless im somehow a fucking time traveler i dont think that they are the same
What's this about
Mine is still red
its the same image
Oh
mines white
tf
I bet it s a browser thing mine is white too
what browser are you using @silver oak
Are you ready to win next week guys
read?
actually a spelling mistake, yikes
h
ohhhhh
you're on the TC website, I'm on the silksong website
oh ok
they look different for some reason
yeah weird
unless i took that pic on the silksong website for some reason and im just dumb they mustve changed it
ready to watch this chat burn down
you're not helping it ttacco 
Guys, who’s best mod?
Debug mod isn't very flashy but it makes up for that in sheer utility
Ice and fire mod from Minecraft
oh you meant discord moderator
No I meant mod pizza
@hollow terrace isn't very flashy
Banned
see? not even a
in the message
TTaco is top 2 easy
Lalalalala I cant hear you
Window though 🤔
You’re banned no talking
All I just wanted was to say I like the ice and fire mod from Minecraft
B tier
I'll watch with very very cautious optimism.

Tbh, I'm ready to nothing next week 
I don't even know if Silksong will be there!
Will be where?
Graig probably said it would be at some point so it must be true
I'm very oblivious
TGA
The game awards?
oh hey the team cherry site stopped constantly saying it last updated at the instant that you check, nice
Was that intentional
can't wait to be able to read way too hard into things again
Yeah
Graig has never lied in his life
True
I don't really know what that is 
It’s an awards show but they announce games there sometimes
The name kinda explains what it is 
game isn't coming out this year 😦
Consider the following
Egg
Didn't they give pretty much all the awards to The Last of Us 2 and Among Us last year?
Silksong release date: T(B)A
Silksongs realease date T(G)A
add this to the evidence board
Where
Probably TTacco’s big TGA evidence message

We are no clowns!
Your really are arrogant to the ways of the silksong
Me and Graig know what’s up
Yeah he is
Graig the man with a million names...................and the ultimate troll
just wait 'til you see what Wilbo is about to do on December 9th
what
Your cool
thanks
i try really really hard and it pays off
thats what the other cool kids say
Continues to a three page long backstory
Let me guess William is going to come in during TGA say Yo and LEAVE
that's what I would do if I were him
That would be great
Team Cherry going on stage for anything would feel kinda weird since they’re usually so casual
I was there when it happened
I nearly died
that or say one of his famous William-isms "Star fruit. Dragon fruit. What other disappointing fruits are there"
Just kidding William is never coming online again
Because there will be no silksong news ever
I missed it by like 4 hours 
whatcha mean, we're getting silksong news in huffs hopium in like 8 days
He did change his discord pfp recently
True
and more importantly HE BECAME WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE
But that was after Graig sent it to him
and after I showed it to Graig 
another plot twist
Salutations
I can’t wait for the end of my sentence
hornet is gonna heal the knight in hollow knight silksong ending
reverse sealed siblings
healed siblings 
yes i pray thats what the ending is like
or maybe it will be better
do yall think ss is gonna be at game awards
Veal siblings
yes
i an required to say so my duties as a tga cult aircraft
Just reached day 200 of calling someone a nerd in the Silksong trailer comment section
Good job
mfw no soul, void, vessels, spells, the knight, or the hollow knight in the hollow knight sequel
I think is bait
IDK Leth talks about TGA a lot but who know he could de bunk it. it might not be there but I think there is a decent shot of SS at TGA's I really really hope
Please leth don't crush dreams 
It would be funnier aswell if he doesn't deconfirm and it isn't there 
well so far we're like 9 days away and nothing has happened
He deconfirmed e3 like a day before so we got time
whatever happens with tga its gonna be funny to watch this chat
if something gets announced i dont know how this chat will be
probably yelling finally and just idk
if we got a date this place would get muted
chaos
if we had a deconfirmation we likely would have had it already
so this leaves either its there or no deconfirmation and its not there
if it actually does happen i'm leaving the server and forgetting about hk until i can actually play the game 
no deconfirmation and not there tells us that the goal is to get SS off our minds for the time being, which makes sense in the world where it's far out (i.e., not even gonna be at E3/SGF 2022)
hopefully it's at TGA this year though 
feelin gloveblood
when it doubt, down some hopium
ye they've got proper grammar in the meme, let it stay 
When ppl use the right its/it's 💌
NOPE its is the plural of it It's is short for it is it's would be impropper
honestly im feeling good on tga also if it wasnt obvious
it fits in with the cycle we've had with news in the summer and winter
wym? you used the right one of them and i'm saying ty :p
you're right ||except that its is possessive||, but i think we misread each other
oh thanks
and theres just stuff pointing to it
ya leth's last messages are about TGA
I hope Leth at least says it's not happening if it's indeed not happening.
Silksong can posses its own release date it kinda has to there is no better way to word it
ye i meant the bit where you said its is the plural of it
you used its right in the meme 👍
main thing im worried about is how i will actually deal with ss news being there because its easy to think that its not gonna happen but when it happens it can be difficult to actually think that it did
honestly, the hype train is bigger than it was before e3
kind of it wont feel real
the seed was planted v early for TGA 
ye especially due to the lack of news recently
I just hope people give the game the time it needs. We all saw what happened to cyberpunk
the last ss news was edge
also anyone have an idea what happened to those blog posts leth mentioned were gonna happen sometime
Cyberpunk's development time wasn't the issue I think, it had 7 years of development
Crap its is the possessive for of it...Unless you say An Alien from Jupiter an alien from Mars and an Alien from Neptune all met each other and then the its walked to the bar
he just said he was trying to get them to do more blogposts, not that more would actually happen sadly :/
that makes sense 😛
Hey, is there any aspid like enemy shown in the ss trailer
there are enemies that throw 3 straight pins in the same shape as the aspide
Do they fly?
we only saw them grounded, but they definitely look like they could jump around like ninjas!
I mean as long as I can hit them and they won't spew attacks at me when flying I think ill be fine
Found the extended version
yooo PS Vita, TC finally living up to the stretch goals
Silent Sinner in Blue was a cultural reset
still can't believe we're getting a sequel
Spike chunsoft bought team cherry
spike chunsoft gonna make danganronpa silksong
If is not anounced in tga, I will discharge all my bait memes
imagine having hope
honestly, I'm kinda terrified of this tga build up rn
Your pfp makes this much more terrifying
join what
Same, I'm trying to be pessimistic but it's not working
can i
The idea of ss actually coming out scares me, and the idea of it not coming out also scares me
mods only have pfps of nice, gentle people
join the ranks of those who have faith that SS will appear at TGA
I have been pessimistic since the last indie world
and I regret nothing
what about my pfp
he said mods
"they said I couldn't fire a man just for being in a wheelchair, did it anyway, ramps are expensive"
-Cave johnson
i dont care i have the personality of a discord mod
doubt
but it wont

I have the personality of an egg
Hello
honestly, my biggest fear is that leth will deconfirm it prematurely, idk why but I'd rather be dissapointed at tga than find out a week before
its better than just being naturally disappointed
wich we are gonna be
I just decided to try hollow knight one day because I saw a YouTuber play it, Now this is my life.
I'll just find out when it happens
Hello 
I don't think I'll even watch it
its better like that
the only thing you will really miss is the goty announcement
Here's what I'm going to do when it happens
I'm going to go to sleep
And then I'll wake up the next day to the response
I don't have any expections
either it happens or it doesn't
that's it
it wont happen 
no, I'm not even trying to be a pessimist,
People who say it won't happen, make me angry
People who say it will make me scared
rookie numbers 
Sorry if Im making you angry then
I just got sick of people having high hopes for any event
you just have to wait patiently and let it happen, the reward will be sweet
It's fine, that was me a while ago
now
I don't have high hopes
I don't have low hopes
I
Have
Nothing
Left
to
think
Will we see any new news from SilkSong in December
some could say that you are hollow

depends a lot on who you ask
I don't know anymore
Team Cherry's blog hasn't been updated in two years
fellow TGA disbeliever?
yes
Finally
I really feel like they wont use it for anything anymore, they have other ways of communicating news
if there are news
The website crashed too many time 🥴
thats the thing
there are other ways that wont crash
Their blog was just thrown away
like Edge
Hey if we're wrong we aim for till end of december, and if we're wrong again we aim for feburary 2022, and if we're wrong again we disband
Nah, Leth improved the servers to not crash every second
its always something like that
silksong will release tommorow
if this is not correct read the message again
"Probably by the end of 2020"
"I bet by the middle of 2021!"
"We will get news in December!"
"Uhh, maybe Frebruary 2022?"
A sad entry
Cant wait to see you guys in 2024 when it releases
Cant wait to see you guys in 2024 when it releases
No I don't want to be 19 when ss releases
I basically check every day to see if There is any new news from Silk Song
If (Silksong == TGA):
print("LETS FUCKING GOOO")
else:
print("ok let's aim for Feburary")
Cant wait to see you all spam out of sadness next week
in that case we aim for February even if Silksong releases before TGA, got it
If we don't have anything by February, then I'm kinda fine with that
I'll put ss in the back of my mind and just let the year go by and see if we get anything
Botw2 ig
BTSX EP 3 hopefully
Also dead cells dlc
I feel bad for the people who have to wake up at night for tga
Oh yeah right elden ring
Whats tga
I'll just be asleep
I'll be doing homework
unless its a friday in which case i have to deal with this server
The game awards
Oh
good
It's at goddamn 2am for me
if anyone is staying up exclusively for ss
go
to
sleep
even if there is news
TGA people really said "fuck non-US people"
Why not do it on the weekend
Weekend at 12pm EST, I think it would work
No doubt some will stay awake but it's just stupid having it so late for europeans
yes
fire in the circus
makes me remember that one indie world where the chat just got flooded with clown pics
God I hate clown pics
and clown emojis*
There isn't anyone in the voice channels for once



Also how long is TGA ? Like the part where there announce games ? Do we know because I don’t really want to watch 2h of rediffusion to find there were no news
3 hours iirc
Yeah I will just come here to see the 
do they announce everything that will be there or do we wait and find out
im guessing we wait and find out
Or 
If I see a clown emoji one more time I will cancel silksong myself
me last year
I might just log off for the rest of the time tga happens, I don't want to hear anything about it until the day after
@bleak scarab thanks to you silksong is gone

I'm a pessimistic hat for a reason mate
how long is the TGA
3 hours iirc
3 or 4 hours I believe
So you have till 5am staying awake
ok wtf
I'm not doing that shit I thought it was like 1h
or I go to sleep very early and I wake up at 2am 
No
whens the tga again
9 December
Sleep at 10pm, wake up at 6am for school
just checked, seems to be 4 hours
why would I wake up at 6am for school
You don't wake up at 6am for school?
guy like me sleeps through the school day
life is going good rn so i’m doing good
Wafflez 
nice
doing alright, finally joined back the server yesterday, it was nice to see everyone again
🤔
I'm the OG hungry knight speedrunner but the shadowy elites will deny that and censor me

oh hi slazac
hi
Hiiiiii
hi chroma
No
Cause perfection takes time and no
True true
It isn't really realistic since normal development started after godmaster
The stuff before is just kinda like squeezed in during some free time
its not "supposed" to be out
nintendo asid "soon" but we know now they knew nothing
so it could be anytime really
but 2022 or 2023 are probably the most likely
for TGA that will maybe annouce it'll be out in 2022 so still 2022/2023
We will win
why would they announce a games release date at TGA
well if the game is finished they need to announce it somewhere
a shadowdrop is very unlikely
Soon could mean in like 4 years
i doubt we'll have to wait four years
Well i was convinced that the game would come out in 2020 at one point

Yeah because you were smelly
The wait could be considerably longer than anticipated.
How could you say something like that to another human being :(
ok you know what, I'm going to join the tga cult because I literally do not care anymore
Was silksong ever at tga before? Like with the demo?
No
no
random Graig event
i'm down
It's at a decent time for us Graig, 10:30am next Friday I believe
Oh shit nice...
what time zone is that
Lucky
Sup
Australia
depends on which day tga is
Oh look something's happening
its the 9th, right?
ACDT
What's up?
doing fine, i'm very bored
Oh tga
smh do non-boring things
in school?
yes
No way I'm watching TGA at 2AM
Fake fan smh smh
...unless?
Might just go to sleep at 9PM and wake up at 2AM and potentially go back to sleep at 5AM
we all watching tga together? 
Goooooooooooood evening
Good morning
Good
Goo
Go
G
Void


i have to sleep otherwise i will go insane :(
Never mind im dumb i found it
who needs sleep
How long are TGA
4 hours i think-
Broo I'd need to stay up all night
fck
4 hours of edging for silksong 
do you guys think silksong will be at the game awards
nope
Repent
im 85% sure that it could be announced at tga
Sources?
Tga cult
my thought process is- it makes sense to announce in December or January that Silksong is coming out in early 2022
because i am fully on board with it coming out early 2022
Only if it's coming out early 2022 and they know that already
not if it's announced before
and we can all agree that if it is not at TGA then there won't be news for the rest of the year

my most probably prediction is either the following
- Major release date news on TGA
- Post blogpost update after TGA if its not there
- December end of year blogpost
February is another matter
whether the Nvidia shit is true or not, well see
so far Leth's response to it has been a non acknowledgement
I'm still iffy about if they'll do a blogpost
i pray for a blogpost 
if it's not at TGA, then a blogpost would not contain release, so if they are just doing a blogpost for the sake of it, why not have something in the middle of the year as well?
let me wear my clown makeup dammit
I live for these speculations
yeah
Inject them into my veins
like, if its TGA its gotta be a release news
Oh yeah
if its a blogpost its most likely just gonna be an update
TGA or not, release date or not, i feel like theyll do a blogpost anyway
I still don't know if I should play it on switch or PC
I guess I can build some hopium
sure
Are you a desk gamer or a bed gamer?
I say pc, for the mods
Handheld mode is great tho
I'll get it on both platforms, possible 3 platforms. So it's just about first playthrough. I genuinely don't have mods, but I've tried several times
I don't have a switch 
Just get it on a PC
i will
It's always the better choice, except when you're being limited by price or something
but not having a switch is still sad hours
Not really
Same
Consoles can be less of a pain
Nice just emulate lmfak not like nintendo's deserving anything they get
Also emulation != piracy if you're thinking that
But it's kinda sick isn't it, imagine. We're getting a game that fully revolves around Hornet, probably fucking amazing lore with a whole new kingdom. Fully blind, from start to finish.
my friend will have it on switch rather than PC so that he can play it anywhere
Explain how?
I just hope it supports my ps4 controller
there really isn't a good, stable switch emulator, yet
You don't have to use your pc
I hope it supports my n64 controller 
I don't know, my friend got literally zelda running
botw was on wii u
Wow what a nice convenience
It really is
well, the thing about not having a Switch is I want the hardware, not the software, for the most part
And i still don't get how
Sucks for you ig
Why do you want literally the worst piece of hardware out there lol? Even steam deck is better
exclusives
Opinions people.
Something something emulation
Doesn't suck for me, i'm not suffering with hardware that prevent you from viewing your own files
You can do everything you need to do
exclusives too, yeah
And because my friend has a Switch too so I would be able to play with him
Basically handheld consoles have the huge upside of being... Handheld.
[Generic controversial gaming opinion]
Ofc, the 2-4 titles on the switch? PS titles are being ported anyway
If you just wanna whine about the switch then fine but that doesn't mean other people have to hate it
Oh of course, the ToS totally doesn't limit me from modding
I'm just saying if you have a choice between pc and switch, go for pc, i dont know why you're bringing exclusives here?
You can say all you want about consoles being bad but it's more comfortable to play in bed than at a desk, and if you say otherwise it's just confirmation bias
Where you want
Do yall think ss is gonna have a gun mod too 
I believe the gun mod person said they'll make one
Or he's at least considering it
@gun mode person
i do remember the gun mod person saying "never again, nothing on this earth will convince me otherwise"
I'm more interested in a ss randomizer
He changed his mind
times change
i know
im considering it depending if the skills arent ass to work around it
You can see so much stuff in the silksong announcement trailer. It's almost been 3 years. How fucking big is this one gonna be lol
but i thought it was funny to bring up
the charms were easy since most of them are just passives i could override
B E E G
go the easy way and just make the gun a tool
Maybe hornet can find a gun in vanilla silksong
she unironically better gets a musket
fuck I'm coping so bad on TGA
And a freaking red coat to conquer for the Queen
Already has that
I think the way I'm gonna go is, get hyped, go to bed, wake up and see what happens.
Kinda
Cry*
Red cloak is close enough to red coat
what is everyone's hyping at? TGA?
I think
Silksong
I think it's better, that way, I won't have to deal with each new announcement coming and going, getting closer to the end, with still no ss (if it isn't there)
Considering that that's the thing people haven't shut up about for like a month now, probably 
I mean there are cult members around tga so its fair to assume
no what is TGA
A cult
The game awards
if it is there, cool but I'd rather just get the result, plus I don't really care about TGA
oh The Game Award?
yes
the sussy awards
Awards, obviously.
What's so sussy about them
The
awards is what I'm hyped for
impasta
I wonder which game will win TGA 
If I wasn't poor I would have :tcArriveWithSpaghetti:ed you
What are the nominees
death loop
metroid
obviously The Last of Us pt. 2
ratchet and clank
lol.. do you guys remember june 12th
resident evil
What happened June 12th
placeholder release date
oh please not this again
Oh yeah
good to see that nothing has changed this year
We in 2022 in some moments
bUt ThIS tIMe iT's An EstiMaTe
This time we have more copium
Like 31 days
Time to get hyped
even if silksong is not in TGA we will still probably get some news this month
Maybe
doubt that team cherry wouldn't show anything for more then a year
it's TC everything is possible
Precedent has already been broken, so it's not like that's a particularly strong argument
Until yesterday TC had never gone 11 months without saying anything, either
yea but are they really gonna let us live without even a crumb of ss news for more then a year 
They could
Focus has moved from 2019 more away from publicizing the game to actually making it
TC did the legwork, they got the game into the public eye.
yea but even after they did it they still showed some news
no one said TC are good at marketing
and whats the point of getting silksong to the public eye if they aren't going to share anything for a year or maybe even 2?
For AAAs it's quiet dev -> announcement -> (maybe) flurry of news -> rd -> flurry of news
TC did announcement -> flurry of news -> quiet dev
People will know about it
That's half the battle
true but isn't it smarter to do it close to reales?
Not if you may not have time to do it between determining a date and the actual release
Also TC had little choice.
They had to announce with relative haste because SS was kinda a known thing as a HK dlc
A game taking several years to complete vs a dlc taking several years... one is more reasonable
Maybe it isn't ideal but circumstances were abnormal
true but they showed silksong like half a year after god master was released they could've waited a bit longer to show it
idk why they kept it up through all of 2019, maybe just HK habits
Obscure devs really kinda have to keep up some level of news to have any hope of not completely losing an audience
well isn't that what they are doing now?
Not really
People talk a big game about losing hype but they'll still get excited when a date is announced and buy it when it comes out
"losing hype" in the meantime isn't a problem, it's just settling in and accepting that it's gonna be a while
bitches be like
"Not buying Silksong because this entire hype is mishandled, they lost my fucking respect, and even if i buy it i wouldnt like it as much because its soured TC's way of updating us (or lack of)"
but also be like
"OMG Silksong release date hype 😳"

you just perfectly described nintendo fans
did i really sound like that :/
Not you, other people have said things like that
good i thought i was sounding like an asshole lol
your lack of faith is disturbing
wait is anyone saying they're not going to buy SS because the game is taking too long or something
Also, imagine punishing yourself for TC not giving out news by not playing the game 
It's happened once or twice
seen some people like that in the silksong trailer
Im fine with TC taking as long as they want on the game. The single gripe I have is that they said 'coming soon' at the end of the trailer, which at this point is misleading
that was nintendo not team cherry
"Coming Soon" is industry standard language 
yea i think leth said that he didn't even know that it said coming soon
And that wasn't in the trailer, it was probably just an offhand comment by the host, I don't think that was meant as an official statement
"coming soon" means nothing, it's just a way of saying "we don't know when it's coming out" it's no different from "to be announced"
Exactly
i would prefer "to be announced" then "coming soon"
Perhaps but those statements are used pretty much interchangeably
same. 'coming soon' is easily interpreted as 'within a year-ish'
and that's what TC did
I mean I understand why that would be, I just don't think it's reasonable to be upset with Nintendo because the host at the treehouse made an offhand, probably unscripted comment
if people were really using that to figure out the release date, then they were already as desperate as we are now
That was more then 2 years ago now 
I mean people can hardly be blamed for interpreting 'coming soon' as 'ooh, it's probably close by :D'
There was also the "game looks ready" mentality but after like a year of real development tops, one trailer, and a barebones demo I don't think that was realistic
Nor can the host be reasonably blamed for saying it
It was an unfortunate if understandable misunderstanding, there doesn't have to be somebody at fault.
oh absolutely yeah, I'm just saying it can hardly be said that people were being unreasonable or too desperate in thinking 'soon' to mean soon
Oh I'm not saying that
Although didn't they also say that it was "wrapping up developement"?
She was probably guessing
It was weird that SS had a playable demo as early on as it did
yea that was always my argument when i was saying that ss would be coming soon
I mean... there had still been less than a year of real development at that point, there being a demo doesn't change that. They just made the demo during the early stages
An unconventional move, but one that could be deduced at the time
oh wow silksong discussion in ss discussion
We know that the scope of Silksong has increased significantly during development, so that must have played a part in why the demo was out so early
Probably
they expected to be done way sooner
when the trailer for silksong was shown tc said that they had worked on it "in well over a year" so when the demo was shown I thought that silksong would probably reales in a similar time frame as hk
But even without scope creep I can't imagine they ever thought they were almost done in 2019, at least not after they realized it was a game and not a dlc
Jack Vine didn't join TC until like 2018, so they can't have really started until at least then
oh I didn't say they were almost done, I'm just saying that it might've been out by now or even in 2020 if they kept to the original scope
And they were split between godmaster and SS until mid-late 2018
or at least that's what they planned for
Yeah but to be fair developing multiple things at once is not exactly uncommon for games
For a team size of three making meaningful progress on two projects at once isn't super realistic imo
at all
If you had enough people to be working on both simultaneously then maybe
Not really, most teams work on multiple features and aspects at once, even small teams, this can be easily expanded to two projects, especially ones so similar
God master wad also kinda glitchy
and especially if the main one (Godmaster) is so small
Either way godmaster would impede SS development pace
Still splitting time and resources
Like, it's really unlikely that even the previous updates weren't being worked on alongside Silksong
There's a limit to how much they could have done without their coder
SS was probably being worked on, but more likely in the same capacity their next game is, accumulating ideas.
highly unlikely
Why
they wouldn't have so much done in the trailer if that was the case
They didn't necessarily have much done aside from what was shown
yeah but that amount of art assets, enemies, etc. is not something that could have been done in 3-4 months
it must have been done alongside Godmaster
Ari's a quick worker, and the art could have easily been started before rigorous development
yeah but that defeats your previous statement, making art assets is more than just accumulating ideas
Yes, but that time is not equivalent to a year's worth of exclusive focused development
By the time godmaster was in the works they could have started actually making SS
But not so much the other HK updates
they did say that the very first pieces were being put together right after HK released
so base code, core mechanics etc.
You're not giant enemy fool, how are you the lord of fools 
The base code would probably have been overwritten altogether now that they have a new/more experienced coder
idk why Jack would choose to work with the mess that existed before he got there
GEF was merely an imitation, I was called Lord Fool back when he was still Gorb
Well he had to work with the mess for godmaster but for SS he doesn't
I reject modernity
maybe, but this isn't certain
Nothing is certain we are pretty much just speculating
and they still had the base of HK to look up for code, and both Ari and William have coding experience
Whether they have experience is kinda irrelevant
HK code quality is supposedly bad (aside from godmaster, which is better)
the coding for hollow knight was significantly improved in the lifeblood update btw
yeah, but before the trailer was done, they still had art assets for a huge amount of areas, enemies, and they even had at least some area layouts
if not most or even all
The trailer itself says little about area layouts. They probably had a general idea of where things go but that isn't saying much
They drew a few sprites and backgrounds but many of the backgrounds got changed anyways so those weren't final
well, there are certain shots in the trailer which remained the same that we saw later
most we've seen have been changed in some capacity
and the backgrounds didn't get "changed" they got "improved", the art assets are still there, only some are slightly modified, and some are new
So they weren't done
They were mostly done
They said in the reveal video: ''We have been sitting on it for a while'' and ''It's a big game, and still growing'' - this alone gives an impression that they already had quite enough stuff done
The handful of rooms we saw, maybe
I don't think it's an instance of the background not being done, more like Ari wants to improve upon them
You think that the rooms we saw were the only ones that existed at the time 
No but they don't mean that all rooms are present in that capacity
If they wanted to showcase an environment in the trailer but didn't have that area fully prepared what would they do aside from refine a specific room to look pretty
Then show that off
well it's a given that not all rooms would have been finalized, but the art assets still would have been made

and the layout
In trailers you show the stuff that looks good, not the stuff that's indicative of the status of the project
The art assets and the layout would not necessarily be made, and even if they were they would not necessarily be final or without significant changes
it seems kinda weird that so many rooms from the same areas were shown, then
why would they spoil the entire game years before release tho
They may have had more assets for some areas and therefore had them more ready to show off, also what Sonia said
maybe those rooms are the only ones thats polished
If you have most of MG done it's easier to show off the MG rooms that are mostly done
This doesn't mean that every area is mostly done
i guess, but we'll never know for sure
look at the Terraria 1.4 mod loader
unless they tell us, i guess
i was wondering why the port was taking so long
turns out they were rewriting everything from the scratch instead so they can achieve peak optimization
That's the point. You can't infer with reasonable confidence that the game as a whole is mostly done just from the trailer
It could be, or the next room over could be a blank expanse
oh I'm not saying the game at large was mostly done
I'm saying that the development before the trailer was not insignificant
yeah i wonder how much they accomplished in 2 years
Significant is subjective. It wasn't nothing but it wasn't nearly as much as a year of focused dev would be
Aside from just the resource splitting, swapping between two projects constantly just isn't the optimal way to work
Especially when one has a more pressing time concern
maybe theyll add coyote frames 
I've never needed them but sure maybe
Ledge grab already is a qol thing for platforming so it's not out of the question
You did say that it's unrealistic they could have done meaningful progress during Godmaster development
Meaningful as in enough that a year and a half of it could be enough to infer relatively proximal release
that's so vague and uninformed that I can't fathom how you would even attempt to judge that
People did
It wasn't a good argument
Which is what I've been saying
How efficient TC was wrt SS during godmaster dev is ultimately a tangent
Even without godmaster it would've been unrealistic
iirc they had Sly and the nail/paintmasters done during hk release
yeah, they just didn't know where to put them
Any silksong news yet?
no
Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. 
A ton
they meant new ones, I'm sure

#hk-announcements and pins would answer that too
There's also the possibility that they haven't seen an instance of news
In any case, checking #hk-announcements would suffice to determine the answer to whatever question was intended and then some
also asking is ridiculous in the first place so like who cares
#hk-announcements doesn’t announce the very important news that Graig mentioned TGA, which totally doesn’t confirm ss will be at TGA
Maybe silksong is taking So long because playmaker is swapping more than Just the variables in all the enemy AI.
I pray never to see the day that #hk-announcements falls that low
#hk-announcements is only for reputable and confirmed news 
Sorry Graig
One day i'll let him write in that channel
The day silksong date is announced you gotta let Graig announce it for once it’s actual news 
8 more days 
It is the last say of December. TGA had no mention of Silksong, and not a single word from Leth or Team Cherry. All have lost hope, no more is left for Tammo to extinguish, Taco has no more hype left to spread, the channel was inactive for days. Until suddenly, 10 minutes from midnight, you hear a pinging. The light of hope shines within, as you open the Hollow Knight server and see it. A ping... In #hk-announcements! You gasp in exhileration as you open the channel and feast your eyes upon the first sentence:
"Update 1.5.78.11845 is live!"
ngl getting tired of being characterized as anti-hope but whatever
I mean I get why people think that but it doesn't make it less irksome
Oh well
at least you can take solace in the fact that you are one of the 2 people in this chat I remember from the top of my head
what are people
good question
human beings
who is graig
will we see Silksong news before the end of the year?
only team cherry knows
Release probably not
Hell even they might not
Release date however 😏
Although they probably wouldn't do anything too impulsively
Release date
Imagine
I would probably get a heart attack if that happened
If that's a risk then I hope it doesn't 
It's a sacrifice i'm willing to take
8 days to go before moderators have a bad day 
'cause that's happening no matter what
ugh thats like 192 hours away
I'll be sleeping through half of it 
Bold of you to assume it'll only be for the four hours or however long
There's always the aftermath 
if it's the good kind of chaos I don't mind
forget the 'if' it will be the good kind

The closer we get to tga the less i think we will see ss there 
hope is what has brought me disappointment
I wish 
whats tga
The Game Awards
ok
outrageous
insert light mode joke
Dst pfp 
Any news?
It's a cool character come on 
at least it isn't compact mode
that's...a lot of tabs
I never said it's not cool
its my school laptop, its mostly schoolwork
||I don't have to||

Unique uses compact mode?! 
goodness no
What if
https://open.spotify.com/track/6qWKxzkGaEnYavQeKwa7KV?si=265543d82a9a4ccb obligatory Silksong please go fucking wild with your Violin OST
That's Silksong OST!
TTaco is lying to us 
i cant wait for all the silksong music 
speaking of violins https://open.spotify.com/track/7fKHeJdwHroMIGBwtnuLDg?si=f34b715099f24306
yes I will take any opportunity to share Vivaldi pieces
gam awardes
You misplaced an e somewhere, it's the gam awardse
thanks

Has anyone tried remaking the Lace fight in HK Voidheart yet?
probably not
Hmmmm
im sure making a brand new boss takes a lot of effort so like 👎 but there have been brand new bosses made in hk so it could be possible
Someone put propeller knight from shovel knight in HK so
Lace fight in HK would not be a viable fight
Exactly
HK and SS are very different games, things designed for one would not work well in the other
i thiiiink redfrog was working on something like that? could be wrong tho
want me to ask redfrog
Yeah exactly
actually redfrog is offline
But what about taking part of both, introducing hornet vs knight multiplayer mod
Your saying that but you know some person will make it work somehow
Yeah I checked their message history, they have Lace AI done
interesting
Doing it is besides the point
Ability isn't the point
now there's a hk modding server so checking redfrog's message history wouldn't help in my opinion
Why would someone add Lace? Because they can
why would someone make a mod where you
because they can
Then how well it works isn't important
if it was, stuff like AnyRad wouldn't exist
Anyrad at least pulls from material built for the game
Hello
Hello


The basic attacks of Radiance make sense to be dealt with by TK
The way the fight is structured is still built around TK
Maybe the radiance had something to do with void before she was forgotten
?
are you referring to the whole "ancient enemy" thing
What does it have to do with anything 
We’re referring to gameplay not lore 
they put a cuphead boss in hk too
Hey @opaque sigil nice black knight pfp, he is a good shovel knight character
I wanna get that game at some point
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah cool black knight pfp yeah
I have a feeling it won’t come out the 1st of February though, because why not drop it on the day hollow knight came out?
my pfp is a king knight pfp
That’s the 22nd or 23rd I think
Nvm
I honestly can't tell if that's a joke 
24th
Hornet is cool
Hey @opaque sigil nice black knight pfp, he is a good shovel knight character
Yes
I want to buy her some ice cream in Silksong
Yes
No
Y
Hey @opaque sigil nice pfp idfk who it is
Why wouldn't you want to give Hornet delicious food?
hey @opaque sigil nice black knightpfp, he is a good shovel knight character
Because my hunger is at 37
Hey @opaque sigil nice pfp
Well, Hornet hasn't had an ice cream in centuries
is it only me or does @opaque sigil have a nice pfp?
Well, maybe not centuries but a long time
okay let's not spam ping him 
It's fine, I don't mind so long as it doesn't get too out of hand
The funny thing is the character in my pfp does sometimes go by the name "Black Knight" 
Which is probably obvious from the design but still
Nice status, I approve 
Baba is me not you 😡
Spend all my rosaries on ice cream 
No rosaries for tools 
Spend all your rosaries on tools that make ice cream

Tools to make ice cream?
Why not
I'll be sure to always equip those
When the boss is too hard, just give them brain freeze
I'd rather use it for Hornet
Why not both
Just give the boss some ice cream and Hornet and the boss can have a nice time eating ice cream
Don’t give it to Lace though she’s mean
Great idea!
Eh doesn't seem that great
Huh what
This does concern me (Curious)
So eh, TGA is on the 9th of this month?
YES
Yep
8 days until silksong news
Gam awardse
dont sound so sure now
