#sk-discussion

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opaque sigil
serene chasm
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Im on a hunger strike until we get SS

opaque sigil
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rip

fiery coral
marsh ibex
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Why would a deepnest creature not tied with the weavers be related to Pharloom?

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Herrah’s not a weaver, and most weaver stuff is in the den

opaque sigil
marsh ibex
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What?

high hedge
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Silksong Theory: The Roach from Wall-E is the main antagonist. Evidence? Well theorists I’m glad you asked!
cue game theory intro

sullen fractal
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Think we'll get another christmas update?

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My hype has been dwindling down for a bit now. Maybe that's a good thing tho

high hedge
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I wonder if Game Theory will cover Silksong or if his last foray into the franchise scared him off

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Maybe he’ll give Silksong to the pope

hasty oar
hasty oar
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sometimes people come in and ask if the knight is the pale king and we gotta do the whole spiel of telling them it's not and them arguing at us

opaque sigil
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I mean it isn't that common zote

hasty oar
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idk it's common enough zote

silver oak
opaque sigil
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A number of those are sarcastic/people saying it isn't true

silver oak
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although that actually just takes into account any message that mentions the knight and the pale king

marsh cypress
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We live in a society

uncut citrus
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Yeah but what you search that there also a lot of « not » in the sentence that the search tool still show you

silver oak
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since discord search function doesn't like articles and basic verbs

marsh ibex
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It’s also simply inaccurate

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ligament

uncut citrus
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I mean

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It says « pale king » and it’s a vid of TK

silver oak
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the bottom one mentions PK and has the knight in it, I see nothing wrong

uncut citrus
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Now sure if discord search tool can actually read text like that tho so maybe the person who posted the meme says it under the meme

marsh ibex
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it can’t read the text

opaque sigil
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My guess is it's in the image name

marsh ibex
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The gif is a link

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Link contains HK

opaque sigil
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Yeah that

marsh ibex
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As in the words hollow knight

opaque sigil
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Or more operatively "knight"

silver oak
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it was a joke zote

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lore regulars smh my head

opaque sigil
uncut citrus
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Yes I checked and there no text with the gif so it gotta be in the gif link

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Doesn’t really matter anyways

fiery coral
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how dare you make a joke Necro 😡

silver oak
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no memeing in lore

opaque sigil
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Did I miss something somehow zote

silver oak
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Yes

opaque sigil
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What?

silver oak
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I won't tell you

opaque sigil
fiery coral
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🤐

opaque sigil
silver oak
opaque sigil
silver oak
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There wasn't anything, I was just making a bad joke

opaque sigil
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I guessed as much zote

crisp drift
silver oak
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It's not as bad as it looks

high hedge
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Yeah but what’s worse The Knight being the Pale King or Sans being Ness?

mental jacinth
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Sans being the pale king

silver oak
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The knight is ness

trim estuary
trim estuary
silver oak
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You have so much to live for

coarse leaf
opaque sigil
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No

coarse leaf
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but that doesn't prove that beasts may also came from Pharloom

opaque sigil
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No

coarse leaf
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beasts are mentioned in Silksong's poem

opaque sigil
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The concept of beasts is universal.

silver oak
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"Beast" is a title given to Herrah, it's not her species

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Like monomon the teacher or lurien the watcher

high hedge
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Wait so there isn’t a race of teachers

silver oak
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The watcher family

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They all have one eye

high hedge
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They’re creepy and they’re kooky

opaque sigil
coarse leaf
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if its a title, then there's a another "beast" in Pharloom then?

high hedge
opaque sigil
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I mean the Bell Beast is already there

coarse leaf
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I thought spiders are called "beasts" if its a universal title

opaque sigil
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Nope

silver oak
coarse leaf
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that includes the weavers

opaque sigil
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Just Herrah

coarse leaf
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so Herrah is the only beast?

silver oak
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yes

coarse leaf
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then why beast was also mentioned in Silksong's poem?

opaque sigil
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The only beast in the context of its use in her case

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Different use of the term

coarse leaf
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are Pharloom citizens aware of Herrah?

opaque sigil
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Only the weavers would be

high hedge
opaque sigil
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Well the weavers and anybody they told about her

silver oak
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The Addams Family

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The Watcher Family

high hedge
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There it is

trim estuary
coarse leaf
opaque sigil
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Probably

silver oak
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Most likely

trim estuary
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It is probable

high hedge
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It’d be weird if Hornet left and returned for a bit

silver oak
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Can't confirm but more evidence points to sequel than prequel

coarse leaf
high hedge
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True

opaque sigil
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It kinda isn't

silver oak
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Just don't be a midquelist

high hedge
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Truen’t

coarse leaf
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like what happened in Silksong may have inspired Hornet to protect Hallownest or something

cunning geode
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:/

opaque sigil
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There isn't enough time between the weavers leaving Hallownest and HK starting to accommodate SS being a prequel

high hedge
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Maybe it’s a really short game

silver oak
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Just by how many people are in this community now, there's probably some people who are truly, unironically midquelists

coarse leaf
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but still, we're not sure if the Weavers indeed go back to Pharloom

opaque sigil
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We are

silver oak
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And that makes me sad

high hedge
opaque sigil
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Silken charm containing a song of farewell, left by the Weavers who departed Hallownest for their old home.

coarse leaf
high hedge
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And there was one weaver left, so you can assume it was recent

silver oak
coarse leaf
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so the Trilobite isn't connected to Pharloom then

opaque sigil
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No, likely not

high hedge
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Maybe

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But it’d be weird

coarse leaf
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but why did Hornet went to Pharloom though?

opaque sigil
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She didn't have a choice

high hedge
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Like maybe void just is a huge expanse underground?

silver oak
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so this confirms that the weavers were at least living in silksong and if they were then they're either here during silksong or it's their "old home" and they're also here during silksong

coarse leaf
silver oak
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Hornet was captured by the citadel caste

high hedge
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Kidnapped

silver oak
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How they overpowered her is a mystery that will only be revealed on release

high hedge
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They want her special silk

coarse leaf
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like she couldn't get captured if she stayed in Hallownest

opaque sigil
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She could

high hedge
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They could’ve went to Hallownest

coarse leaf
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she's more likely wondered outside Hallownest

opaque sigil
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Not really

high hedge
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It’d be weird if she did

coarse leaf
opaque sigil
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The caste members traversed the wastes there's no reason to assume she came to them in any capacity

high hedge
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She’s kind of a sworn protector

opaque sigil
silver oak
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I think after DNM she would have most likely wanted to protect the remnants of Hallownest post-radiance

royal zodiac
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silksong is cool

coarse leaf
high hedge
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Elderbug.

silver oak
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And post EtV, same thing probably

opaque sigil
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She has as much cause to protect Hallownest as she ever did

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Killing looters and whatnot

high hedge
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She was going to protect Tiso

silver oak
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Honestly with the radiance gone, she has more to protect

high hedge
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But he died from being stupid

cerulean sable
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Dunno dude, keeping watch and preserving the old kingdom she was born in sounds like a pretty decent reason for me

silver oak
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Now Hallownest could, and it's a stretch, but it could begin to support a population of sentient bugs again

opaque sigil
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Well it always did but there would be more room to grow

worthy bridge
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so uh what are we talking about rn

coarse leaf
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like giving her combat skills she wouldn't get easily captured

opaque sigil
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But she was

cerulean sable
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like i assume the things shell protect them from are looters and vandalizers

worthy bridge
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also sorry for interrupting

high hedge
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So after the Pale King died what kept the remaining bugs intelligent?

opaque sigil
high hedge
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Ah

trim estuary
opaque sigil
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The thing elevating the minds of some bugs is still there even after he's dead

cerulean sable
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@worthy bridge Hornet getting captured by the cultist and her reason to go back to Hallownest or some shit

high hedge
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Good for them. So I suppose that aspect of hallownest is safe

worthy bridge
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well probably to help new vessels to seal the radiance, but idk anything if ss is after dream no more ending

coarse leaf
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Silksong is most likely a prequel

silver oak
opaque sigil
cerulean sable
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HK's ending has little regards on what could happen in Silksong

trim estuary
coarse leaf
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because it is in Silksongs timeframe where outside bugs trying to explore Hallownest

silver oak
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Well THK was wayyy more powerful than the average bug

worthy bridge
opaque sigil
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THK is... not an ordinary case

trim estuary
coarse leaf
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because no one will guard their paths

worthy bridge
high hedge
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What if the husk was happily mining crystals not long before

trim estuary
opaque sigil
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Typically infection will mess up your innards and stuff, but THK doesn't have innards to be messed up

coarse leaf
silver oak
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Beat the 5th pantheon

worthy bridge
coarse leaf
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THK boss fight in SS? pogtamer

trim estuary
opaque sigil
silver oak
coarse leaf
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also Hornet's void

cerulean sable
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theyre seperate kingdoms, it doesnt change the fact that at the end Hornet gets captured anyway

worthy bridge
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and then there's the lore locked behind beating EVERY BOSS IN RADIANT DIFFICULTY

silver oak
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just a little bit

silver oak
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it's like 1 line of text

high hedge
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But at least there’s a chance

cerulean sable
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they can simply make things vague and itll pass of as a sequel without going through hoops

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inb4 Sealed Siblings

silver oak
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TC is no stranger to vagueness

high hedge
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They just crack that egg open

opaque sigil
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They've already done enough to allow all endings to be compatible tamershrug

worthy bridge
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except sealed siblings

silver oak
proud vale
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How's it going silkpals

opaque sigil
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Including sealed siblings

trim estuary
worthy bridge
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Hornet is in black egg, but the seal is sealed by hornet

high hedge
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Yum yum

trim estuary
high hedge
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Just crack it with a big hammer

worthy bridge
silver oak
opaque sigil
trim estuary
opaque sigil
trim estuary
worthy bridge
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I though seals of binding were inpenetrable.

coarse leaf
proud vale
cerulean sable
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also i assume the seal was made with the help of the weavers before they fucked off, which means they can always connect them as the reason they can break it again

silver oak
worthy bridge
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huh

high hedge
opaque sigil
proud vale
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Only about 13-14 days now until TGA!

coarse leaf
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You know, waiting, waiting... and waiting, it's our daily thing!

worthy bridge
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ss is canon right

high hedge
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Yeah

worthy bridge
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k good

silver oak
high hedge
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Unless they’ve jebaited us

coarse leaf
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Nah, SS isn't a sequel or either a prequel to HK

worthy bridge
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oh no

trim estuary
opaque sigil
worthy bridge
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wait a second

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pale king is a liar

high hedge
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Yes

opaque sigil
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kinda

silver oak
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Silksong is the sequel to Hollow Knight, regardless of when it takes place in the HK timeline

coarse leaf
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Pale King says the truth, but in a bad way!

worthy bridge
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one of the kp lore tablets say hallownest is the only civilisation, but farloom (pharloom?) exists

high hedge
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Not if they send the game back in time

cerulean sable
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also i hate prequels in general because i really like the idea of the world progressing past the main game's story, cuz character development and the open endedness

opaque sigil
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Yeah that one's just propaganda

worthy bridge
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I would've said that ss is pre-hk since hallownest (hn) is the last civilsation, but pale king is a liar

cerulean sable
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i just like the idea of "what will hornet do now" vs to "we know shes going back to hallownest anyway"

opaque sigil
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There were other civilizations within the region of Hallownest zote

cerulean sable
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at the same time makes you think whats happening to hallownest while ss is taking place

silver oak
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yeah having a defined start gives you much more freedom then a defined end

coarse leaf
high hedge
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Fungus Amogus

proud vale
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I wish Leth could say something about TGA notlikequirrel

cerulean sable
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he did

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it was

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:)

opaque sigil
proud vale
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Whaaat when

worthy bridge
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wait

cerulean sable
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no wait nvidia leak nv,

silver oak
worthy bridge
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what ending does ss take place after

cerulean sable
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no words about TGA yeah

proud vale
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Yeah I don't think he's addressed TGA hype

silver oak
worthy bridge
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idk what TGA is either

high hedge
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What would any remaining bees even do

silver oak
worthy bridge
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ah

coarse leaf
high hedge
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Be sad I guess

proud vale
coarse leaf
silver oak
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no
we've already spent 20 minutes on this

proud vale
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That's too long to spend on prequel discussion

high hedge
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But what is a midquel

proud vale
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19 minutes too long

opaque sigil
silver oak
high hedge
coarse leaf
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I mean, how are we going to discover if it is a sequel or a prequel if the game didn't even release? zote

silver oak
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The bees honestly seemed fine under the radiance

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But yeah now that she's dead who knows what the hell will happen

proud vale
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I think the console gamers definitely outweighed the pc gamers in the TGA nominations

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We already have a new queen in Silksong zote

opaque sigil
silver oak
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the duality of man

proud vale
worthy bridge
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ok

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if we assume ss is post-radiance ending

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then that means that farloom hates hornet

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idk might be helpful

silver oak
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  1. we can't and 2) why
opaque sigil
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It isn't after any specific ending

worthy bridge
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oh

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then I guess farloom is infected?

silver oak
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also no

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why does pharloom hate hornet again?

high hedge
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Just very stringy

opaque sigil
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Infection was localized to Hallownest

worthy bridge
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they captured her?

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lol

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wait what's the fifth ending

high hedge
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Hornet probably wants to halt string production which is vital to their way of life

worthy bridge
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there's three hk endings and a godseeker ending

silver oak
worthy bridge
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is there a lifeblood ending?

silver oak
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Embrace the Void has 2 versions

worthy bridge
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Wait seriously? They just split it?

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Well then there's actually 4.5 endings

silver oak
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Depending on whether you gave godseeker the delicate flower or not

opaque sigil
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For the purposes of SS there may as well just be one ending maggotprime

worthy bridge
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oh no I'm not going through cot with flower

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and trying to dodge THAT thing in the cot junk pit shortcut is pain

silver oak
worthy bridge
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should I beat p5 before talking here so I know what this is

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hold on

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can someone link me to an ss trailer

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I need to look for delicate flowers in it

high hedge
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It’d be funny if they also showed Elder Bug disappearing if you gave him the flower

worthy bridge
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:(

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is there... ogrim's dirt?

coarse leaf
opaque sigil
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One ending of HK, I meant

worthy bridge
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Why don't we start figuring out mechanics? Like hornets spells

coarse leaf
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Oh zote

opaque sigil
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Because they're all functionally equivalent

coarse leaf
worthy bridge
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so if I give hk a flower do I get 3 more endings

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you ok?

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yes, but if I give hk a flower do I get 3 more

silver oak
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Regardless is what happens at the end of the game, we know that Hornet is captured by the time silksong starts.

silver oak
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So yes, all endings are effectively the same

worthy bridge
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unless tc just completely changes their direction and has the game take place in hn

coarse leaf
opaque sigil
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Sealed Siblings isn't an issue groozy

silver oak
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But they say poopyhead because this is a kid friendly game

worthy bridge
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the seal breaking butterfly looks like it's made out of silk

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either that or soul

silver oak
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Repent

worthy bridge
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GUYS

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ok this probably means nothing but the butterfly appears to be radiating silk

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wait a second

proud vale
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What butterfly

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oh right those ones that break seals

silver oak
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The one in the start of silksong

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Yeah I think this has been noticed before

worthy bridge
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ok actual inference here: farloom hates hornet, which means they probably hate the pale king/herrah (who is fine with the pale king).

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wait is it spelled farloom or pharloom

silver oak
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Pharloom

worthy bridge
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lol

silver oak
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Fairlimb

worthy bridge
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what was it

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Fareclimb

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Carnival Uprising

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Pharloom is secretly the Carnival Uprising confirmed?!?!?!?

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Startling discovery shocks even the radiance NO CLICKBAIT AT 3AM

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what have i done

grim forge
silver oak
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We were this close to greatness

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If no one talks for 2 hours then silksong releases

normal token
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Ha no

silver oak
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We’re not worthy

uncut citrus
silver oak
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Murdering a judge while court is in session is generally frowned upon

worthy bridge
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guys: pharloom
farloom
farloin
farlion
farlimb
fareclimb
Carnival Uprising

cunning geode
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Pharloom
Fatlunch
Sandvich

magic thistle
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Carnival game just like that one cup head boss, therefore, silksong = delicious last course

cunning geode
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Coincidence?

magic thistle
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i see we have slightly different opinions

maiden forge
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I have reason to believe silksong releases today

magic thistle
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alright lemme hear the reasons

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alright those are some good reasons 👍

normal gazelle
maiden forge
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Indeed

normal gazelle
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do you want to share you reason?

gaunt dirge
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Is ss a prequel? I cant remember

viscid latch
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Hope that Silksong will have more info in Nintendo Indie World this time hornet420

shy kiln
gaunt dirge
viscid latch
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Edge Magazine said it's a sequel

uncut citrus
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i think they mean it as its their thrid second game, not necessarly that it comes after in the story

viscid latch
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Monster Hunter

haughty ingot
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also will TGA be only 1 day?

viscid latch
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MH Sunbreak next summer

cerulean sable
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wish they announce MH World 2

pale lion
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i recon there is more likely to be info abt silksong in a direct vs in an indie showcase and I am basing that off nothing

proud vale
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There’s a December indie direct?

copper knot
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what

empty frigate
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Didn't Leth once said they had no special agreement with Nintendo ? if so why would they reveal silksong info in a Nintendo direct rather than on their own terms ? edit : it was only about exclusivity, nevermind

feral tusk
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Anyone else able to nominate silksong for game awards on steam?

tawdry radish
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Just out of curiosity, how much do you guys know about Silksong?

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or is it just kept under wraps?

analog forge
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we have a trailer, 3 blog posts, and an magazine article

tawdry radish
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do you have a link to the magazine article?

signal crag
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if you want all info we know as of now, check the pins for the google doc with SS info

tawdry radish
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cheers guys, i appreciate it

signal crag
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is that even allowed

tawdry radish
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i got the link now so no worries lol

alpine basalt
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thats not cool yea. Support the edge

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a lotta talk on that a year ago

formal karma
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yes, it has almost been a eyar since edge...

alpine basalt
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so long.. so starved...

signal crag
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almost a whole year without news....
it wasn't THAT bad, wasn't it?
let's make it two then buzzsaw

normal token
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I should reread EDGE

normal token
formal karma
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it's okay, no 'need' to

nimble radish
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does it count as not getting news if they release without telling us

formal karma
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it would count

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game =/= news

obsidian hamlet
formal karma
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well they're wrong so don't worry?

nimble radish
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I have reason to believe they're making it up for funnies

viscid latch
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Maybe Silksong's map will 2x bigger than HK (I think)

alpine basalt
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it ´will be bigger

obsidian hamlet
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i have reason to believe hollow knight will finally release today

viscid latch
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And SS will have many sub quest to complete

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with such time to develop SS

alpine basalt
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yes. bigger, deeper. taller.

obsidian hamlet
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i mean they said that part of the reason silksong was made was because hornet's moveset made the HK map feel cramped right?

viscid latch
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maybe many ideas were removed from HK will be used in SS (Snail, Spider, Bone Forest...)

signal crag
alpine basalt
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yea qassim. Meant ot be dlc, but then like. SHit, too tall. and then domino'd to a whole game

obsidian hamlet
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bone chimney

viscid latch
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yeah, let's wait till February 2022

formal karma
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i mean we'll need to wait longer if it takes longer

viscid latch
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2 games I'm looking forward are SS & Zelda BOTW 2

obsidian hamlet
obsidian hamlet
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loved the first game

alpine basalt
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i will shit my piss if it sucks

viscid latch
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Still not finish 112% (Nightmare King Grimm & Pantheon of the Knight)

alpine basalt
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cute stand

obsidian hamlet
formal karma
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that's why people need to stop expecting the most earth shattering experience

obsidian hamlet
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cant believe team cherry isnt giving ANY info on botw2, really reggie? step it up

spring perch
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Guys what u think
Will team cherry give an update about hk ss on new years eve

formal karma
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nah

maiden forge
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No

alpine basalt
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nah

spring perch
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Well they should

formal karma
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nah

obsidian hamlet
alpine basalt
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last year was edge, january magazine. No reason for them to hit it on newyear

obsidian hamlet
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it is my prediction that team cherry will soon announce that SS was a collective fever dream

formal karma
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maybe before the year is out, maybe a little after

spring perch
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What about the nvidia leak

obsidian hamlet
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nvidia leak?

formal karma
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nvidia leak is absolute nothing

spring perch
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February it was right?

formal karma
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nvidia leak is like the Void from HK had babies with the Nobodies from KH and it was raised by my dad- the perfect storm of nothing

alpine basalt
viscid latch
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with priority release SS for PC & Switch, I belive they will give more info soon

tawdry radish
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interesting

spring perch
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@formal karma lol

obsidian hamlet
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really appreciate team cherry having an analogue for my father with the pale king

alpine basalt
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wat

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u got tossed into a well of void as a bebe?

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or is he dead. oh. damn

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Sorry

obsidian hamlet
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oh god oh fuck i didnt mean to make it serious

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my dad is alive, he is just an absentee peice of crap

alpine basalt
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welll explain urself!

obsidian hamlet
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i am going to leave now]

alpine basalt
obsidian hamlet
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on another note

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i hope i get grubfather lore in SS

formal karma
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welp, not likely

alpine basalt
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nah, now we have the fleas

obsidian hamlet
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is he a loving father or into vor

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e

formal karma
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we already know the answer to those questions

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and why is it the human condition to want more of what we already have?

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let's get ALL NEW lore from SS....

lofty robin
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Any silksomg news?

oak fable
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i dont think so

wanton crest
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Let's discuss tools

brittle garnet
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my favourite tool is Zen [bragging rights]

uncut citrus
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wait you use bebe hornet as a tool? i guess the horns are kinda pointy but still

brittle garnet
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fork

vast pecan
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ss is not coming out

uncut citrus
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...today

uncut citrus
fiery coral
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ping mods next time itssoulgood

pallid flare
#

yes

uncut citrus
#

aight

proud vale
#

Unique is very pingable

uncut citrus
#

yeah i never know if its worth pinging or not, i guess for something like that its fine tamershrug

proud vale
#

Yeah I mean if someone is being cringe, it's their responsibility to un-cringe the situation

marsh ibex
#

I mean it was literal nsfw

proud vale
#

Oh I didn't see

#

Also nice cameo on DSSN Joker shroompog

haughty ingot
#

where is leth

proud vale
#

Leth for DSSN?

tall hinge
haughty ingot
#

yea i want

proud vale
#

Eventually you will get the whole server pop

uncut citrus
#

lets hope not

#

that'll be alot of days without silksong sadgeyes

proud vale
marsh ibex
#

Leth? I believe he went to Wendy’s

uncut citrus
#

he must be really enjoying his time there for 9 days zote

pallid flare
#

that's not out of the ordinary

#

wasn't he having breakfast for a month straight?

burnt topaz
#

It must've been a bloody good breakfast

fiery coral
#

No way it's @marsh ibex from DSSN quirrelpog

marsh ibex
#

shut up you eat egg mcmuffins

charred pulsar
#

Its JoJoker!

#

Everyone look, its JoJoker!

normal token
#

Holy shit it's @marsh ibex

marsh ibex
proud vale
#

We are in the presence of royalty

nimble radish
tall hinge
#

omg shroompog

uncut citrus
#

wait omg its the guy from DSSN quirrelpog

#

i totally didnt made the same exact joke not even one day ago zote

pallid flare
#

guys look!

uncut citrus
#

wait actually its barely more than one day ago

keen kiln
uncut citrus
#

one day it wont be a joke

#

one day we will see that green "yes" on the thumbnail and ask ourself if we didnt go crazy

#

and we would have most likely did go crazy, but still eventually we'll get news, even if its a release date in 3 years zote

balmy pasture
#

3 years seems a bit optimistic

uncut citrus
#

the release date annoucement doesnt have to be close to the release date

#

it could be annouced in 3 years and they will say "welp we're not even close to be done wait another 5 years zote

marsh ibex
#

!wiki Sharpe

mental swallowBOT
balmy pasture
marsh ibex
#

whip

uncut citrus
#

I SAID IT

#

nose attack

marsh ibex
#

One Backer boss in particular has become a major rival character to Hornet, a mysterious Assassin Bug submitted by Jaspal Boodram. Jaspal’s assassin uses its proboscis as both a blade and a whip

#

blade and a whip

uncut citrus
#

totally forgot that gif but yeah nose attack quirrelpog

#

nose whip

marsh ibex
#

Whip sword irl

#

smh

#

TC can’t even be accurate

balmy pasture
#

0/10

marsh ibex
#

I assume when they mean a blade and a whip it’s more soulcaliber

#

like this

nimble radish
#

it's also his nose
and retractable

verbal marsh
shell yacht
#

yes

cedar trench
#

the real whip swords are those plastic swords sold at medieval fairs that just wiggle around when you shake them

uncut citrus
#

i literally kinda predicted it even if that gif was aleary out i totally forgot about it and said "imagine they use that nose as a weapon" zote

glass vigil
#

But maybe that’s a bit too optimistic

hushed wasp
#

whats the boss called that was added via make a wish

silver oak
still elm
#

tools.

uncut citrus
#

Forgot the name but the caracthere is Seth, who will be both a boss and an NPC, seems pretty late game

hushed wasp
#

thats cool

normal hinge
#

npc?

#

coool

silver oak
#

sethsalute Rest In Peace Seth Goldman

uncut citrus
vagrant umbra
#

Would you rather be haunted or infected?

#

And by haunted, I mean whatever affliction is going down in Pharloom.

coarse leaf
#

Haunted

plain prism
high hedge
#

The infected get weird growths so probably the former

sinful flare
#

freee orange juice

vagrant umbra
opaque sigil
#

Depends on how bad haunting is but it'd have to be pretty damn bad

sinful flare
#

do you get free orange juice if you are infected

coarse leaf
high hedge
#

You get a free puppet show

sinful flare
#

ok i prefer being jaunted

silver oak
#

I want orange juice

high hedge
#

Would you drink your own oj

sinful flare
#

i would.

high hedge
#

Gross

coarse leaf
#

Nah, that's gross.

sinful flare
#

anything for the free orange juice

silver oak
#

You’re gross

high hedge
#

No I’m haunted

vagrant umbra
#

I wouldn’t even need a cup, just cry a little and free OJ.

coarse leaf
sinful flare
#

im jaunted

#

whatever that means

vagrant umbra
#

Haunted don’t get to let out a sick scream whenever they want.

sinful flare
#

be jaunted instead

silver oak
coarse leaf
#

Infected don't have a best friend haunting them

sinful flare
#

i hope i get a title card when they encounter me getting jaunted

vagrant umbra
#

Imagine I’m dying of old age, surrounded by my family, and when I die, a huge Radiance scream comes out along with a mask shard.

sinful flare
#

so you're brooding mawlek

tulip edge
#

I want to go out like dung defender

vagrant umbra
sinful flare
#

he defends sing

tulip edge
#

He’s a famous warrior that uses the power of autocorrect to disorient his foes

vagrant umbra
high hedge
tulip edge
#

Well, that’s a given

high hedge
#

Fair

tulip edge
#

I’d just also like it if I went team rocket mode

high hedge
#

To the sky?

coarse leaf
#

GOOOD MORNING

#

Sooo hornetsong has new updates...

1.flying moss enemies added...
2.weaver design door easter eggs added...
3.New musica
4.DAVE

tulip edge
#

Dave?

cunning geode
tulip edge
#

I see

sinful flare
#

Dave

coarse leaf
still elm
#

thanks elderbug

nimble radish
#

you guys realize that infection tastes horrible right

coarse leaf
#

SLUUURP

nimble radish
#

gruzzer milk

cunning geode
#

elderC before slurp
elderZ after slurp

crisp drift
silver oak
plain prism
#

Pizza time?

silver oak
#

It could taste sweet and silly and yummylicious

cunning geode
#

I imagine it’s similar to megaspheres.
Which taste like sludge

nimble radish
# silver oak How do you know

A thick orange mist fills these walking corpses. It has a sweet, sickly taste to it. I find it foul. After you kill these creatures, I suggest you do not eat them.
husk bully journal entry

silver oak
#

The Hunter is not human and therefore unreliable

cunning geode
#

welp, Lori pulled out the facts

opaque sigil
#

Willoh also said that the infected bugs around her didn't taste great

cunning geode
#

sweet like flavored medicine perhaps

nimble radish
#

Willoh is also not human pepogrub

sinful flare
crisp drift
#

You'll know if you drink it

opaque sigil
sinful flare
#

Whatever im drinking i

#

_ _

opaque sigil
#

I mean you might wanna stab the infected balloon before you drink it but then you should be fine

cunning geode
#

and we never heard from Kaan again

coarse leaf
#

GOOOD NIGHT... i mean... uhh GOOD MORNING... SEE YA LATER

lean python
#

Okay, I've never come to say how much I love Wombat's profile.
It's so fucking cool.

cunning geode
#

Thanks?

pallid flare
#

haha

cunning geode
#

Tim Chungus really let us down

dusty nimbus
#

Hello

#

Wait my question is for another channel cya

pallid flare
dusty nimbus
little vine
#

how do tools work

nimble radish
#

said the human

little vine
#

like are they just charms but for movement or

nimble radish
#

they're what's replacing charms
not just movement stuff

#

in fact only thing that we know of currently to do with charms and movement is pogo

little vine
#

isn't there one that makes you grapple to enemies

#

or is that just a normal upgrade

opaque sigil
nimble radish
#

you can pogo tools
therefore they are movement related tools

opaque sigil
#

Oh the sting shards

#

Yeah

marsh ibex
#

Grapple wouldn’t be a tool

#

It’d probably be a skill

#

Like her gossamer storm

#

Skills would be the spell equivalent

rough cedar
nimble radish
#

yeah

normal token
#

Venom as in the movie?

chilly nexus
#

I hope there's some news today, I can't wait to see what's on DSSN

sinful flare
#

venom is pretty good

#

not the movie

silver oak
#

I definitely hope this statement won't come back to bite me in the near future

chilly nexus
#

na tbh i agree, that's a valid sentiment

#

likewise with part 2

brittle garnet
opaque sigil
#

More of a complete rework than expansion

#

imo, at least

silver oak
#

Its got a different name and everything now

tall hinge
#

yeah its more of a new spin on the idea of gameplay customization

opaque sigil
#

Which tbf the charms sorely needed

silver oak
#

I think tools feel more active than charms, almost every charm gave a passive buff but tools can actually affect the world and enemies

rough cedar
#

Hmm. Im a little sad to hear that i was excited for the idea of new charms alongside the tools

silver oak
#

Well we’re probably gonna get charm-like tools

rough cedar
#

But i understand why, that would be a lot of work to properly implement enough charms that are unique, alongside new tools too.

silver oak
#

You know, extra health, more damage, more silk pickups, etc.

opaque sigil
brittle garnet
#

well, like, part of the tools will most likely fill the same role as charms, yeah

still elm
#

have you guys seen the new crowsworn clip that got posted on twitter

#

the sound design is perfect

silver oak
#

Send it

sinful flare
#

send it here i am super curiou

digital junco
#

when i'm curiou

signal crag
silver oak
#

mmmmm sound

#

also elevator copied from Hollow Knight???? Hollow Knight ripoff??!?!??!??

pallid flare
#

that looks awfully a lot like hollow knight hero_thinkhero_thinkhero_thinkhero_thinkhero_thinkhero_think

tidal hearth
#

must be a rip off 🙄

trim estuary
#

sleyes*

nimble radish
#

unlike hollow knight
the elevator is fast

steep basin
#

Crests and tools are different sides of the system

velvet ruin
#

Animations in Crowsworn look absolutely amazing

steep basin
#

I imagine there will be nail art style abilities

latent sonnet
#

when is silk song B(

modest night
#

the roll looks kinda awkward but the rest is nice

analog forge
#

ngl i watched it for like 2 minutes before i realized it was a loop

silver oak
#

For everyone but you specifically

analog forge
#

milkmusic

#

nylonmelody

stark estuary
#

?sspas

cedar sedge
#

silksong?

modest night
#

honestly i don't get all the praise crowsworn is getting

opaque sigil
#

It looks ok ig

#

atm it's hard to say more than that

modest night
#

from the clips it looks like i'll have a very same-y experience from hk playing it but i guess it's early development

nimble radish
opaque sigil
#

tamershrug An experience reminiscent of HK isn't a bad thing

modest night
#

no i mean it doesnt seem distinct

pallid flare
#

I think people are trying to compensate for the shit show it got when it first got announced

opaque sigil
#

Even if it is an HK clone a good HK clone would still be a good game

nimble radish
#

something like hk sounds pretty great to me, can't play hk forever

modest night
#

i guess i just want something new

opaque sigil
#

Me too but something old done well isn't bad either

#

If a game were to promise the same experience as HK I'd pick it up in a heartbeat

modest night
#

not saying it's bad

opaque sigil
#

Yeah ik

modest night
#

just yeah not what im looking for ig

opaque sigil
#

I get what you're saying

modest night
#

it's weird it's getting so much praise when gleamlight got killed on the spot for the exact same thing

opaque sigil
#

Gleamlight supposedly was poorly executed

pallid flare
#

whats with the poop reactions?

opaque sigil
#

If Gleamlight had been good the story might be different

modest night
#

i mean i think that's probably a direct consequence from the backlash it got

#

someone being stupid don't pay attention to it

brittle garnet
#

Gleamlight looked bad :/

pallid flare
#

it looked and felt bad

modest night
#

yeah but my point is it didn't get backlash for looking bad

#

it got backlash for looking like hk

pallid flare
#

I feel like it got backlash for being similar to hk but being incredibly unpolished

slow heart
#

Yeah I don’t exactly get the Crowsworn love.

modest night
#

yeah

pallid flare
#

looking like a cashgrab and stuff

modest night
#

weird 180 from the community imo

opaque sigil
#

Compensation for the initial outrage may be a factor

haughty ingot
#

i don't understand the sudden distaste myself honestly lol

#

is it because people say it looks too much like hollow knight?

nimble radish
#

I assumed gleamlight was already out when people started to hated it

slow heart
#

No, it was hated for a while before hand.

modest night
#

gleamlight looked like a very unpolished indie game that got terminated most likely because of the hate it got when the trailer dropped

#

maybe im being too king but like yeah

#

strange

haughty ingot
#

if anything gleamlight was a poor attempt of a cash grab

slow heart
#

As someone who has Gleamlight, the unpolish is clear and seems identical to the original trailer of it.

haughty ingot
#

crowsworn to me still looks like something with lots of passion poured into it

slow heart
haughty ingot
#

huh, really?

slow heart
#

Yeah, fixing bugs, adding polish. It’s weird.

pallid flare
#

redemption arc

haughty ingot
#

still, i'd be surprised if they pull a no man's sky

modest night
#

selling an unfinished game is shit but killing a game for looking like hk and backing another one that does the same thing is definitely weird imo

haughty ingot
#

i doubt this game is entirely fixable

modest night
#

honestly im not expecting a lot from crowsworn new experience wise

#

from what ive seen so far

#

i'm sure it'll play well and all but yeah

haughty ingot
#

i'm just worried crowsworn might end up being too small or too short

opaque sigil
#

If they try to hit the 2023 date it probably will be

modest night
#

they'll delay it

#

most likely

haughty ingot
#

wasn't it late 2023?

slow heart
modest night
#

i don't believe 2023 being the max

wintry bay
#

I think crowsworn has potential but it depends on how the developers execute it

silver oak
#

They raised over a million dollars, if they make it too small people will literally riot

haughty ingot
#

if it is late 2023 then i think it's about the same development time as hollow knight

opaque sigil
modest night
#

also i'm a bit worried about the game not being fun in the sense that unworthy wasn't

haughty ingot
#

but then again, the large budget changes things now

modest night
#

you think crowsworn will actually try to implement plague doctor elements to its gameplay or is it just a crows look cool design

opaque sigil
#

The latter

modest night
#

unlucky

cunning geode
#

i wanna stuff herbs and nice smells in my beak mask

modest night
#

hopefully the next indie game that has an actual plague doctor as a protagonist won't get the gleamlight treatment for looking too much like crowsworn

cunning geode
#

in that case they should shoot for the actual original plague doctor outfits

opaque sigil
#

tbh imo the whole notion of stealing ideas and making clones of games is just dumb

#

If a game is ostensibly "stolen" but it's well made, it should just be evaluated on its own merits

#

Unless it's literally entirely copied

silver oak
#

Playing as a medical person in a metroidvania would be interesting

modest night
#

yeah

nimble radish
#

theres only one way to cure this plague, a gun

orchid rune
#

what do you guys think that the overall sotry of cs will even be

modest night
#

i want my poisoned weapons and smoke screen potions

cunning geode
#

Smogsworn

nimble radish
#

ok that react was automatic, this is a bot

opaque sigil
#

Probably

silver oak
#

Hasn't this guy been banned before?

opaque sigil
#

Probably feelspkman

orchid rune
#

if he actually healed people we could get some pretty wholesome scenes but it looks like hes just going to shoot and kill everything i guess

modest night
#

well he is now

silver oak
#

Anyway, you mostly get damage or movement based protagonists, so a support character in a metroidvaniawould be pretty unique

slow heart
#

I’ve tried having a similar conversation to this one in Crowscord to the amount of success you could guess I would get.

cunning geode
#

okay but for real if our character is also able to master the art of "healing the plague" that would be sick

#

pun intended

modest night
#

yeah

#

an actual plague based indie game would be cool

orchid rune
#

if it was a healing protagonist i think the game would need a great story

cunning geode
#

for all we know the story to this world could be "the plague was way more fucked up"

silver oak
#

Imagine Hollow Knight but instead of killing The Radiance you just introduce free healthcare

modest night
#

lots of stuff to do that seems interesting

wintry bay
#

maybe if you put certain herbs in your mask it could give buffs

orchid rune
#

because gameplay wise you couldnt do much maybe you could like heal dead beings and create armys idk

#

have you seen the elevator clip?

cunning geode
#

"curing" enemies as a gameplay hook to converting them to your side to fight other enemies

modest night
#

imagine throwing leeches at enemies

cunning geode
#

imagine

#

leeches

silver oak
#

okay this is like an actual idea tho

#

Like this could legitimately be cool if given to the right people

modest night
#

yeah

orchid rune
#

wait which one

cunning geode
#

leeches

#

leeches

modest night
#

alright we should tell the crowsworn people to actually make their game feel more unique with that

silver oak
#

Let's just tweet at Mongoose Rodeo and tell them they should totally change what their game is about

orchid rune
#

the leeches one or the curing one?

modest night
#

all of it

#

actual plague doctor game

cunning geode
#

leeches

wintry bay
#

leeches as ammo instead of bullets

modest night
#

deaths gambit death will always look the coolest anyway if they don't do anything with the design and just used it because death cool i'll be sad

cunning geode
#

we'll just have to wait and see

#

when i get my free copy i'll tell ya all about it feelspkman

modest night
#

imagine if you had a humors balance to maintain

#

or something based off that

#

damn there really is a lot to do with that theme

cunning geode
#

sonia I already have a humor balance to mantain

modest night
#

same 😔

silver oak
#

I feel like humors has a different definition in this situation

cunning geode
#

i mean, you know what the humors are

#

right

opaque sigil
#

Pseudoscience groozy

cunning geode
#

yeah

modest night
#

i think wombat was just kidding anyway

cunning geode
#

wrong. i have no humor to kid about humors

#

no humors

modest night
#

so true

nimble radish
#

early medicine was funni

silver oak
#

humor humors

nimble radish
#

"just let some blood out idk, maybe it'll help"

cunning geode
#

more like old European medicine specifically

wary timber
#

ikb4 there’s another void well at the bottom of pharloom

#

and shade lord knight is gonna pop out to say hi in game

cunning geode
#

:|

modest night
#

what was american medicine like before colonisation

#

i guess herbs or something??

silver oak
#

but like seriously an old medicine/plague doctor based metroidvania could be seriously awesome

cunning geode
#

im sure the natives knew their stuff

#

still do in fact

nimble radish
#

probably like most medicine pre discovery of things like microbiology feelspkman

silver oak
#

taking inspiration from cultures across the globe

#

maybe you could have an upgrade progression where you learn the medicines of certain cultures

cunning geode
#

we dont talk about what american medicine is like now though hollowface

modest night
#

yeah i wish crowsworn would do something like that instead of the old and used all the enemies are zombies because of a random disease/bad guy

cunning geode
#

hey i said no talking

opaque sigil
cunning geode
#

dumb dumb

opaque sigil
#

Pain

silver oak
#

banned

modest night
#

what did discord do to the font btw

opaque sigil
#

Is it different?

modest night
normal token
#

I don't see a difference

modest night
#

but only when people are typing or bold text

opaque sigil
#

Weird

pallid flare
#

there's a ban appeal server?

normal token
#

I am not sure if this is in a different font or not

modest night
#

it is

#

it's awful

fringe plume
#

This is something that Deserves Discussing; What in hell are the Purpose of Multiple Crests when Most Players are just gonna find the Best Crest and the fastest way to get it

opaque sigil
#

Because what the best crest is will probably be subjective

cunning geode
#

maybe its because its not French

opaque sigil
#

Between differing special innate abilities and tool slot counts comparing crests 1:1 may not be possible

nimble radish
#

probably gonna be more than one best crest

#

it's even possible that they're gonna be about equal

silver oak
cunning geode
#

thats the hope anyways

fringe plume
#

Well They can’t really Vary the Crests much without having like 2 Slots for each type

cunning geode
#

have you played the game yet

fringe plume
#

No, but still

cunning geode
#

we dont know all about what crests are capable of

silver oak
#

The crests will also have bonuses and buffs for using each one

#

We think

fringe plume
#

That could be cool but then that makes people not cares about certain Crests

nimble radish
#

yeah

fringe plume
#

Unless they make Wanderer the Stock one and have no Upsides or Downsides

viral pivot
#

Yoo Necromancer you did daily ss news?

silver oak
#

Yeah shroompog

pallid flare
#

what the fuck

wintry bay
#

maybe crests will be similar to charm builds from HK? Like healing, spells, or nail

silver oak
#

Me and Jacoby asked Ara and he just said yes

viral pivot
#

niceee

silver oak
#

So it's a joint one

viral pivot
#

I like how you got the representation of the TGA cult after JoJoker was like "dont join any cults"

fringe plume
opaque sigil
fringe plume
silver oak
#

Yeah like you could have a balanced crest or maybe one with 3 of one type and only 1 other one

opaque sigil
#

Wanderer appears to be the base crest, and therefore may simply be the weakest one

#

With the intent that you swap off it as soon as you get something better (ie anything else)

silver oak
#

So like 3 offensive ones, but only a single tool from the other categories
Is that better? Worse? It's up to you to decide

lapis forge
#

did you guys forget to pick up the Big Mac in the Overgrown Realm of Silksong? apparently that can actually make you lose the game, and you won’t be able to fight the frigid husks more effectively

fringe plume
#

Then that will make it Obsolete unless the others have ungodly Downsides

native ivy
opaque sigil
lapis forge
fringe plume
#

Ok…

silver oak
#

I think the more important thing is that no tool gets outclassed by another, the crests are probably a little less important

#

If you have a tool that's just a better version of another one, that's bad

opaque sigil
#

I've kinda changed my mind about tool obsolescence

silver oak
#

But a crest that's straight-up better than another makes sense for a later stage in the game

opaque sigil
#

I think if a tool has higher "tier" (for lack of a better word) analogue with similar use cases it would be fine to let earlier ones fade out of relevance

coarse leaf
opaque sigil
#

eg if the javelin is usable in the same sort of way straight pin is, imo it could be fine to let the former replace the latter. That would incentivize players to use new things

wintry bay
#

I guess it would depend on play style, like certain crests are better for a tank build

opaque sigil
#

Well I doubt tank builds will be viable at all but generally yeah zote

#

Edge called them themed loadouts which imo is a fair way to look at it

wintry bay
#

yeah, hornet is normally supposed to be fast but its just for example

opaque sigil
#

Yeah

opaque sigil
stark estuary
#

I'd be fine with fewer crests so long as they'd scale to endgame.

opaque sigil
#

Yeah that's the idea

#

Or if they don't need to scale

nimble radish
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the tool menu scolls up and down yeah?

stark estuary
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Red tools won't scale, but there would probably be a handful of endgame-viable ones.

nimble radish
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which means you can have wayyy more tools without an issue than you could have charms

nimble radish
stark estuary
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Yeah I imagine there'll be more tools in SS than there were charms in HK.

opaque sigil
nimble radish
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I'm pretty sure it does from the screenshot

opaque sigil
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Yeah, it's probably just messy to use

sinful flare
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i haven't played silksong

stark estuary
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You're missing out

sinful flare
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oh

stark estuary
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Just kidding, it sucks.

fringe plume
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Silksong isn’t even out yet

opaque sigil
native ivy
fringe plume
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I’ll just r/Whoosh myself

nimble radish
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a way of "pinning" your favourite tools to the top of the list would be nice

sinful flare
stark estuary
fringe plume
opaque sigil
native ivy
nimble radish
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the charms weren't a scroll menu

opaque sigil
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There are more than a screen's worth of tools

native ivy
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scroll menu? why

stark estuary
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There are about six tools in the game.

opaque sigil
nimble radish
native ivy
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eww

coarse leaf
opaque sigil
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And that's just a small, small sliver of the tools in the game

native ivy
# opaque sigil

thats not final
but huh i guess the pin thing would be good then

nimble radish
# opaque sigil

oh and the tools are sorted by colour vertically, I'd prefer horizontally

opaque sigil
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tbh I would prefer if they could somehow sort the menu so as to not have to do that, maybe have a page for each color that is opened when you select a slot or smth, but if they gotta do scrolling then so be it

native ivy
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they should just make it like the charm menu

stark estuary
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Probably too many for that

nimble radish
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depends on the number of tools

native ivy
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they can just make the icons small

opaque sigil
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They also have to have space for the crest itself

stark estuary
opaque sigil
native ivy
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yeah i guess

opaque sigil
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I wholly expect that this menu will be a tad unwieldy at times

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But like that's a small grievance

native ivy
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crests and tools should be separate pages on the menu maybe

opaque sigil
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The systems are super interconnected, idk if that would be possible

nimble radish
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but you have to equip to the crest

stark estuary
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What's everyone's favourite tool thus far? Mine is easily the "Blade of Blackwyrm".