#sk-discussion
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Actually surprises by this ngl
by hope?
Death to those who DEFY Silksong
The fact people are hoping for ss in tga basically
hope is all we have
hope rarely requires rationale
Whats tga
hope is all we know
The Game Awards
The game awards
Oh,right
silksong gets an award despite it not even releasing yet
most anticipated game
geoff wouldnt rly have a better idea than us though, that was just his opinion
98 years they were wrong
đ
Ss wont be on them psure,considering how much delays it had
I sure hope so my friend
delays? a release date was never announced
Oh
Misinformation đ
đ
that would be nice but i dont think theyâd put it up purely because triple Aâs
Can I join 
Ss wont be as good as hk simply because no charms 
watch silksong be shite
TGA's contacted them in the past
shouldn't be a question of indie/AAA
there may be charms, weâre not there yet lmao
Tools are charms+
okay since the entire channel is devolving into madness and tga lets bring up something else besides silksong okay
what madness-
this is the silksong channel
fnaf 15
It's ss discussion
Tools will likely do everything that charms did and then some
is ss discussion was cleaned?
genuinely seems pretty normal to me 
it is normal
Guys itâs silksong, the real silksong!!!
not really
Blue and yellow tools seem to account for the same sorta passive effects as charms
Still charms are more unique imo
Idk maybe they haven't seen a nuke


Charms aren't more unique?
we can change that
yeah

is silksong a prequel
is ur mom a prequel
ah shit you started world war III
Do you happen to know when the next direct is and the login info for Leth's password then?
no, i am reptile
we don't know yet but a lot of people seem to think it'll be a sequel
yes deal 50% more damage, very unique
Yes
yea i've got it right here
Edge and FD dialogue heavily imply sequel
âSilksong is in another universeâ
good
Yes of course let's make spells have more damage totally creative
we can't say for sure, many believe sequel though
silksong will be set at the same time as hk
Two hornets
Ori 2 level of creativity
she has a twin
Neet then we can create the biggest nuke
canon
Her name is yellowjacket
hornetta

I'm glad ss will have forest of bones
From when did Hornet act for the MCU
TC haven't realised yet that bugs don't have bones
also guaitar needle

And we thought they learned from gruz mother..
What if the bones are actually not bug bones
You still haven't realised that the bugs don't have the same biology as irl bugs
its a game
And those are bones of actual creatures that seems to be giant for them because they're tiny
you still haven't realised yet that it wasn't meant to be taken seriously 
do you really thing forkbug is a real bug
also big moth
that blinds you when you look at it
plottwist: they're human bones 
You still haven't realised that we could put "you still haven't realised" in front of statements we gradually come up with and continue this discussion infinitely
you still haven't realised that we should stop doing this
Would be too small
there are no humans in the world of hollow knight
You still haven't realised that you're right
yet
yeet what
đ€
:(


Silksong adds human boss fight

Oh no 
i am the new silksong boss
Terrifying
You're shark
oh shit
I just realized I lost my one opportunity to say "You still haven't realised that I live in your walls"
Subnautica:silksong
i weigh as much as 1000 radiance's i would just smack it it's a stupid moth
Instant kill from any attack
how
Come out chaos 
PLOT TWIST: ELDERBUG IS THE KNIGHT FOR THE FUTURE DETAILING HIS ADVENTURE FOR HIS PAST SELF TO HEAR!!!!!!
Imagine a pistol shrimp boss
imagine a mantis shrimp boss
i meant to reply to rina
This will go down like the ratatouille grandma shooting
And this topic was why I have this pfp
YEP THIS IS PURE MADNESS
Oh no
It isn't
a mantis shrimp would obliterate the knight
Hollow Knight takes place in one of those ant cages 
A mantis shrimp could do a lot of things
The knight would devour it using void tho
Like punch Hornet to an alternative dimension
like your mom


the shrimp would punch it
Therefore we get Silksong 2 electric boogaloo
a mantis shrimp teaming up with a pistol shrimp
Mouse boss fight
would annihilate the radiance
What about a hybrid boss 
we're doomed
did you guys know that lobsters pee form there face
Btw it would be cute to see something like a vampire crab
yea and they use it to communicate
yeti crab boss fight
Rosy maple moth when
Can you pogo in this game?
Mmmm that's some delicious pee Jofrey
pog boss fight
ghost crab boss fight
Kind of, itâs like a diagonal down dash and if you hit something you bounce off
he is speed
Imagine speedruns
Coconut crab boss fight would be like the deleted spider boss
no that would be Japanese spider crab
Spider crab is a weakling compared to the coconut crab, the coconut crab eats seagulls alive they're more savage
the japanese spider crab would assert dominance with its sheer lankiness
Kinda like this (red circle is hornet green thing is enemy)
Coconut crab would simply crush the Japanese spider crabs legs and reduce it's lankiness
the fuck does this mean
the ghost crab would run circles around them both until they die of exhaustion
Wait let me go compare their size
the spider crab is much larger
The crab worshippers are starting a ritual
SILENCE,BRAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Indeed
But the coconut crab is way bulkier
I mean it crushes bones and the shells of seashells and crabs to eat them
It would just crush it
hey guys can a bee hive be formed underground
Yes
okay
Play terraria and find out
you mean rip off minecraft
explode
what
Anything interesting going on?
yes hollow fables
Any news in the last year 
edge
lmao just say yes 
No
Itâs not a down pogo, itâs a down sideways very complicated pogo
what the fuck
Watching the trailer makes it pretty clear how it works 
And it isn't that complicated
Yeah? What if they donât want spoilers
Then why would they ask if there's a pogo 
they're big
âŠ
thankgod they are extinct
they aren't
w-what
Deep

very deep
Just like your mom
https://twitter.com/since_news/status/1458615736956555264?t=46s_ttJPqNNum_sjieqDwg&s=19
Happy Anniversary!!!
you're about... one day too late
1000 days isn't an anniversary anyways
Youâre about 5 years too late
spidercrabs should be a basketball players
What fun đ€©
#hk-meme??

No this is about silksong, not hollow knight
#hk-meme
what about this guy
There is no sk meme channel other than this channel
Is it #vh-meme?
#hk-meme is for HK and SS memes
Thats confusing
Petition to rename #hk-discussion and #hk-general to void heart (VH) #vh-discussion and #vh-offtopic
Not really, considering Silksongâs full name is Hollow Knight: Silksong.
wait it is?
Yes 
oh
see confusing
Not really
someone else was so...
it's the only meme channel so
The pins also explicitly direct you to post random memes in #hk-meme
i'm just confused in general i shouldn't be used as an example
Wait #hk-general allows silksong too????
Why wouldn't it
See this is why we need #vh-discussion instead of #hk-discussion, or, make them two separate channels
right this channel is a meme channel, its hardly a ss discussion since ive so many topics discussed here outside of ss
One for series discussion and one for VH in particular
#hk-general will be viable for that
But thatâs off topic too


An admin did
who?
get dunked on
At least read the channel guidelines before calling them confusing 
sans undertale
oh dang you got me, ouch my pride
But the game is called Hollow Knight, as is the series
why did i never know this
Memes should not be posted anywhere
so is the game called hollow knight or voidheart
If I remember correctly the plan (back when we though SS was right around the corner), Silksong spoilers are allowed in all channels in the Hollow Knight category except #hk-discussion. If you want to talk without getting spoiled go to #off-topic, which flat out doesnât allow any Hollow Knight content, or a bunker server.
No the game is called Hollow Knight: Voidheart and the sequel is Hollow Knight: Silksong. Hollow Knight is the series
How
Theyâre all the same
No?
Well presumably SS spoilers also aren't allowed in #hk-help either 

Spoilers tag they would be, although I also remember hearing the channel would be split following the release.
what were the changes out of curiosity
Balancing I think
Yeah.
the great schism
Using a single help or lore channel would be unrealistic
Though lore channels might overlap in subject matter a bit
We don't need another art channel or off topic channel tho
That seems over the top
Just #hk-lore and #ss-lore would be enough
Overlap is too small to merit its own channel
The full name is "Hollow Knight: Voidheart Edition"
No it isn't
Every area needs its own lore channel
The name of the game is Hollow Knight
For console versions yeah
#sk-discussion lore
Then why did they named silksong hollow knight: suljsong jusf cal it sislkdjdn 
That's the name of the edition
Yes
Voidheart Edition
The name of the game is Hollow Knight
That's what I said
Console players going crazy right now.
Notice how I put "Edition" in italics
it's just called hollow knight on steam iirc
Steam isnât canon

There is Hollow Knight and Hollow Knight: Silksong. These games have the same relationship as "The Legend of Zelda" and "The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild"
@coarse leaf ^^^^^
This is a common naming convention
monster hunters a good example of it
I think I agree with you guys but I just said it in a confusing way 
lmao
Notably, the channel descriptions in the discord specify whether a channel is about the series or the games. This is not ambiguous
Yes.
You are correct
no that's Tammo
Tammy*
what?
If thereâs a HK channel but not a SS? It works for both. If thereâs a HK channel and a SS channel? Theyâre separated.
i am not explaining my terrible joke to u
Ok yes I agree
oh goddammit
did u just get it 
No I think they got it 3 minutes ago
Which channel can i find the mod to random rooms?
Thank you so much

Since chat is dead, https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/895313683708792892/video0.mov
bonk
i like the little slide
hey fellas would characters form hallownest enjoy food from bugaria
i'm not sure if this is meant to say Bulgaria or if it's some burger place name
Since chat is dead
She spin
spin
bug fables spoilers >:(
this isn`t a spoiler
That was probably a joke
okay
doesnt hornet have a "fuck i smashed on the wall" animation

when you sprint towards a wall
idk, but that sounds like the kind of thing that would exist. Hornet has like 3 jump animations
sprint into a wall to lose one mask of health

easy Fury triggers if it was in HK though
Easy way to die with fury as well 
zote
boat
Hey silksongers
Dark souls
Where your sword can collide with walls
Ah
hey guys would you believe that the fable giants (form bug fables) could be the higher beings
Dont you remember that screen you sent
Which one 
Lemme find it
Theyâre finding it
This one
No fall dmg, but fall into wall dmg 
Hornet may be able to survive a fall at her terminal velocity but can she survive slamming face first into a wall at full speed 
Itâs not terminal velocity if she survives
She didnât survive though? She got hit by the needle

I mean
Terminal velocity just means it's the highest normal falling speed, not that it's lethal
We never saw hornet fall from that high
Even if we saw her take the stun effect from falling
I mean the cage fell pretty far but she was probably slammed against it as it bounced off the ground, so that wouldn't just be the fall that could hurt her
I was about to talk about that
Also theyâre bugs so falling doesnât really hurt them
Sheâs only at 1hp after the fall but we donât really know if only the fall hurt her
Falling inside of a cage and getting whacked by it does though
Maybe she was already pretty beaten up in the cage
She's also weakened from being in the cage anyways, that could render her less than physically robust
Tired and weak could reasonably mean less HP
I think when the silk thing happend it broke the cage, and she escaped from it mid air
Yeah less than her 25 masks in HK
Well more her one mask in the beginning of SS
(Iâm referring to the fact that it takes way more than five hits to defeat her in HK)
I think sheâs like regaining her shtrenth during the entire game, which means the mask she finds are just giving her her original hp back so 5hp is the number she has when weakened
Well cya 
Adios
i want silksong to come out on febuary second 2022 just to meme us
Consider the following
Silksong comes out after 2022

no
only time i'll consider 2023 is in december 2022
It has been foretold
so is the release date confirmed yet?
only time i'll consider 2022 is in december 2021
no
hi I heard Silksong is cancelled is this true?
Not at all
ah ok
where do these rumors come from
I read that on Facebook
big pranks
Happy 1000th day since ss was first announced!


dang
1000 days??? I remember when it was only 500!
we come a looong way
it's crazy to think how I changed since joining this server about 16 months ago
Such little recognizable faces from the time I was most active.
1000 DAYS R U KIDDING
And we'll wait for a thousand more.
it comes out to be the 7th of August 2024
AND I WOULD WALK 500 MORE
just to be the man who'd wait 1000 days to end up with silksong
what do people think the specs for silksong will be like
because my computer sometimes struggles with base hk lmao
thank you very helpful
you need at least the Axiom 34v RED 2 Legendary Edition processer
4 nvidia rtx quadro 8000s
SS probably won't be much more demanding than HK, if at all
thank you
^
If anything having a new coder may lead to it running better
also experience
That too
they're going all out with small (particle) effects
oh yeah
My computer also sometimes gets framedrops but I've found playing in windowed often helps
Supposedly HK's code was kind of a mess, I wouldn't be surprised if SS is a bit cleaner
also the physics objects
tbh for what it is hk doesnt run very well
No, I suppose not
SS may be better optimized though
It's a 2d hand drawn game, it's probably not going to be very processer heavy
are we talking about rtx and framerates now?
If you can run HK you'll be able to run SS
yeah
Probably, yeah
ideally without my laptop heating up madly in the process
Laptops will do that anyways 
my Silkfriends

I like that ss is trying out something new with the color scheme itâs a lot more upbeat and warm unlike the one in hk which is more cool and chill (Iâm not trying to compare them or say that one is better than the other) so Iâm looking forward to that and also donât know how im gonna get used to the larger hitbox that hornet will have as compared to the knight and also I wonder if thereâs gonna be something like spells in ss
Silk skills
The color scheme is definitely a welcome change, yeah
Getting used to Hornet's hitbox will probably just come with time and many, many deaths
like the moss area has a much warmer green than green path
And much more of it
and I donât think there was any red/orange other than the infection because the infection is supposed to stand out
more like it is in sunlight i think
Yeah SS's a lot more vibrant and a lot less...dreary. Probably reflective of the overall tone of the game, as in HK Greenpath was in decline.
Even Greenpath had a lot of blue to its color palette
As much blue as green, if not more
I wonder how theyâre gonna remake the mask shard and soul vessel mechanics
Well the mask shards seem to work about the same
well in the demo the masks looked the same
Mask Shards still exist
The mask shards will most likely stay the same and the soul vessel will just be string spool upgrades
Snails, myself included.
also wonder how hard it will be to learn the new controls
also the fact that you can actually speak to the npcs instead of just listening to what they have to say is also cool
Although how it increases may change, ie there may not be three pickups to gain a certain amount of silk capacity
will the spool just store more with upgrades or will it do something different
we dont know
Hornet might just pick up more notches one at a time, not have to gather multiple to see any change
I know, as I have the game.
I'm obviously asking @ wilbo and @ ari
also if thereâs gonna be a charm system or if thereâs gonna be something different
There's crests
Tools basically are the charm system and then some

Tools and Crests will replace charms
what about notches
That's the Crest system with its various slots.
Crests have a certain number of each of three types of slots, which tools are put in
Well four types but the fourth is weird and we don't know how it works
crests are just notches with extra steps
thereâs also blood when you stab things

and crests will also affect health and attack on their own
Crest effects seem to be a bit more varied than that
Edge alludes to a crest that grants increased shell shard pickups
Yeah, things bleed when they are stabbed, but vital fluids in SS looks a lot healthier than the infected orange ichor.
They also vary in coloration depending on enemy type
As you'd expect
orange is pretty much as bad as you can get
It's more the attention to detail that's surprising than the detail itself 
without the fanbase screaming void that is
Voidblood
If it has black blood, it's void 
This brings me to the Last Judge, you see...

Fitting emote
I know 
Fitting emote
dont worry dude you'll have a new computer when SS release, the one you have rn will stop working from age by that time 
:l
but seriously i think imma get a new one in the next couples of months so this might actually apply to me if ss comes out late 2022 or in 2023
or after 
how many times, that's last judge's eyeliner
Didn't apply it very well
Also nothing discredits the idea that the eyeliner is made of Void 
yeah there alot of diffrent type of blood you can see, blue one, red one...
cried a bit
LJ being alive currently 
that's what the fire is for
do we know when TC put in the placeholder release date for either steam or geforce?
Developed resistance. Possible AC link perhaps?
it might have not even been team cherry
?sspsa
Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. 
whoever it was then, do we know?
those that are working on the database(s)?
yeah either the steam one from a while ago or the newish one
Whoever put the data in and whenever they did it it doesn't matter. Leak is not strong indication of anything
Ya think?
Yes, Kirb. I do. I really do.
great thanks for the response that I really do not care for, a wise person once said: If you have nothing nice or informational to say, say nothing at all
Who was the nice person who said that
No I mean who was the wise person who said "If you have nothing nice or informational to say, say nothing at all"
my mom
Asking a question implies supposed significance
lol, and no
Anyways moving on
not all the time
That's not my theory, I just repeated it. My actual LJ theory goes far deeper than that.

Eh let's see how much damage you can do to my psychological state, I'm done with classes for today
Go for it
Alright so
Imagine a world where chests are replaced with mini 6 pack abs on each side
What? Why?
idk psychological damage
I mean it worked
Lmao
If you look closely you will see that the flames summoned by LJ are orange. These resemble the infection, which is also orange. Furthermore, if you squint really hard you will realise Hornet's legs are, in fact, black in colour. Now, in addition to the incredibly similar colouration, we must remember that fire, obviously emits light. The Radiance happens to be the literal sun, which is often incorrectly described as a "giant ball of fire". Clearly, Hornet is jumping through the flames (Radiance) and is about to attack the Last Judge. Now, let me ask you, what opposes light? That's right, it's Void, and what does that mean? Hornet is Void, a theory further corroborated by her black coloration. I have posited a similar theory before, but I would like to expand on it. First and foremost, I believe Silksong to take place following the "Embrace the Void" ending, in which Rad is killed by SL. This, combined with its close proximity to a Void being (Hornet) causes LJ's eyes to drip black goo. However, it suggests Radiance is not truly dead, as the infection has not ceased. I feel it merits mentioning that the seal-breaking flies look exactly like the one Seer turns into, and being a moth, Seer was made by Rad. Lace is seen surrounded by white bugs, and is pale in colour, so she is a Pale Being. I believe she is the reincarnation of the Pale King for this reason (Bardoon said Wyrms can reincarnate btw).
oh god I made a mistake
?hkpsa
?sspsa
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I would be grateful to hear what you think of my theory! I worked really hard on it.
I am literally incapable of thinking about that, it never left working memory, my brain said "no"
I think we might need to ping mods for a ban thatâs what I think
Never been in lore channel once Iâm a clean soul
I don't agree with it but I think it's interesting
Thanks
Ok, he's clearly trolling, but I have to admit, you made a really good valid theory
Did he
Tammo, you should know by now.
Nobody can tell when you're joking, yeah I know
No, all of my theories are valid.
everything i say is objective fact
This aged well
It was two days ago it hasn't aged
Your theory is valid because you raise a lot of good points, but in the end we all know that hornet is not void
ah yes good points
And why is that?
However, it suggests Radiance is not truly dead, as the infection has not ceased. I feel it merits mentioning that the seal-breaking flies look exactly like the one Seer turns into, and being a moth, Seer was made by Rad.
Had to work that in huh
what is void commonly described as? that's right, empty/hollow. Now, what is 99.9% of atoms, yea that's right, empty space. Think about it, everything is void.
Very good point my friend
Hmm, is it confirm that radiance made moth tribe? Like literary creating the moths? I thought the moth tribe just worship radiance that's all

Radiance did create the Moths (this is serious now btw)
Oh ok
Seer says the Moth Tribe "turned their backs on the light (Radiance) that created them"
Ah I see
SeerSong
I uh may have misquoted that
You did
iirc the former
Second time lucky 
You know, it would be cool if there are going to be a scorpion character in silksong, maybe even gruberfly!
Scorpions are cool yeah.
And they're arachnids so one would make a good rival to Hornet
scorpions aren't bug!!:!:!/89/&3&2&&-:ÂŁ4ÂŁ
they should add frogs
Sharky European confirmed 
no way
Or Jellyfish or snails or crabs or barnacles or flukes or goams or mushrooms or plants or... I think fish?
i'm pretty sure horses aren't bugs either
Oh yeah the pufferfish
Yeah Hwurmps, and there's also fish lookin things in coral forest I think?
the fish have learnt to fly dear god
nowhere is safe
Already had 
Wait... If a jelly fish is a size of a bug, does that mean almost every creatures is a size of a bug! We could meet a human in silksong!
idk there are some pretty small jellyfish irl
(and it's not like we know how big HK bugs are, they could be the height of skyscrapers and we'd be none the wiser)
Actually yeah...
hk is a kaiju game
Oh well, there's a possibility for everything
we know they're small because of some of their wing to body ratios
TC decanonized mammals, however, although this info is outdated.
Who said TC cared about being scientifically accurate?
me
Well then I got some bad news for ya 

Hornet is supposed to be a spider
have team cherry ever seen a spider
ok but are you sufre hornet doesnt actually hide her extra legs
i think in the demo when you died you could see hornets full body and it had only two hands and two leg
and tbf PK's original form probably had like no limbs? so like if hornet is a mix from PK and Herrah that makes 4 limbs
genetiks
Yea I know, but her base body just doesn't look like a spider at all
Oh well maybe she hid it
the other are kept hidden agaisnt her body and since its pitch black you cant see them 
secret limbsđł
for emergency, use your 3th and 4th arms 
That- that's only 6 limbs tho
thatss how genetics works
(8+0)/2 makes 4 basic math duuh 
wait no
wait
mathematiks
Ok? We don't know how many limbs pale king 2.0 have
i can't tell if ur being serious or not
Maybe 4, maybe 6
Probably some
Who knows?
oh cmon i added a "thats how mafia works" gif and you still cant tell 

Plus the statue in AB has hands although that's probably not a very accurate representation
wait what statue your talking about
oh nvm
The geo fountain
Wonder how much geo's in there
yeah idk why i thought of the abyss when i heard "ab" even tho k i means Ancient bassin
also i cant type well cause im lagging and i didnt know discord is something where lagging actually matter but its really hard to tpye ugh
mans got high ping on discord
i fixed it now i left the game i had playing on background
what game
finally it dosent take 30 sec for my message to type itself after i finished typing it yaay
i completely broke discord earlier because i set my PC's time to 70 years in the future so i could cheat on cells to singularity
and you didnt see Silksong 70years in the future? aw man 

maybe if i set my pc 120 years into the future i can play silksong
Silksong 
Guys, I'm in the future. I think I went too far. Is just it me or is the sun not normally this big?
Wait, is the sun red?
no aha that's completely normal don't worry about it aha
Ok
wait so are you The Ghost Of Kirbmas, now that your not yet to come
Aha aha 
the funni right im so funni
yall mfs dont have patience

YEARS
2 years, almost 3
Iâm hopeful that ss will release by 2022
I mean my patience kinda ran out when I had to wait 3 years for one episode in a series I was watching
That's hardly TC's fault 
whatâs hardly tcâs fault
unless the episod is SS and the serie is the HK universe
It was an episode of "Vessel of Blood"

eh no it was a pokemon series that I started watching when i was like 6 and it started 8 years ago and itâs taken 8 years to make 10 episodes of it and the 9th episode ended on a cliffhanger and it took 3 years for the 10th to release 
Haha at least your show didn't get cancelled 26 episodes in 
and the episode was like 25 minutes long
Same
Same here
Hopefully none. HK's staggered release of content was disjointed and disruptive
Plus it was an unfortunate necessity which just won't be the case for SS
I think the main core of ss is already done tc is just polishing the game and adding extra tidbits to the game
the main core of the game constitutes fairly little of it if HK is any indication
or at least I hope thatâs the case
The "extra tidbits" are likely the bulk of the content
I mean like bosses story line progression items quests stuff like that
I just hope it doesn't come out 2023 or later 
Required things to beat the game are presumably going to be the minority of the content


Seth is like "I told you to take ONE CANDY ONLY you could have avoided this"
is ss coming out in february?
Maybe
Not likely but possibly
However, very unlikely
Feb 2022 would be like 3-3.5 years of exclusive dev so maybe 
One can only hope they're porting right now
i heard somewhere it was coming in feb
You heard wrong
prob its coming early 2022 at least
No real way to know
?piss
We were saying the same thing about early 2021 a year ago
Early 2022 would be a pretty short amount of time in exclusive development
z
as leth already said
That's a general statement, not about SS
Implying SS isnt a big game
i mean, the game is at final stage isnt it?
We don't know
"early year launches for indies"
And even if (big operative if) it was, the "final stage" is long
SS is still in alpha
so what's ur estimate tammo
Probably will be out by 2025. That'd be a fair amount of dev time
big zoteboat moment
It's a reasonable estimate
That'd be around six years of exclusive development.
Thats a really long time for any game
Note that that's an upper limit of what I consider potentially reasonable
Nope
wasn't hk like 3 years
Though if they needed that much time to make SS the best it can be, Im ok with it
HK was rushed and incomplete at release, and much smaller
HK's dev time isn't indicative of what SS's will be
bruh leth just said they're at final testing but devs keep adding new things sometimes
Yeah after playing Silksong I can confirm it was not rushed
No he didn't
Leth couldn't say that even if he wanted to
Do I need to get the tweet again
Probably
true, but i wouldnt expect double the time,
Its in the upper end of average dev time. Indies usually have longer dev times but on average (from my observations) its usually around 3 years)
this way
I think you're underestimating how difficult it is to make a game on the scale of SS with a team of three people and how long it inevitably takes to do so.
Even AAA publishers who employ hundreds of people and have boatloads of reusable assets will regularly take 5+ years to make a game that's unlikely to be half as polished.
Read it again
Iâve seen this discord message of mine quoted, but out of context...
I made it during a discussion about how hard it would be for fans to estimate a gameâs release date, even if the developer said that their game was âXX% doneâ or âin final testingâ.
Careful out there! <3
1146
Read it and pay attention to the actual words
oh k
It's very clearly not what you think it is
thats a pretty poor comparison, while AAA games may be unpolished they are generally way more complex and having to parallelise work between large groups of people also eats up time, i dont think AAA dev time can rly apply here
Leth is a god damn liar, is what I think /s
Comparing things is silly. Games take time. That's all there is to it
Yeah, it's obviously not a AAA game, but that's besides the point. The point is that making a game on the scale of SS is still incredibly difficult and time consuming.
I was merely mentioning that 5+ years is the industry standard.
i'd think its alot more sensible to compare to hk dev time as opposed to an AAA dev time
I disagree
Neither is sensible. One being more sensible is insignificant
The better of two bad comparisons is not good
I didn't mention AAA dev time for the sake of making a comparison though
what really bugs my mind is how a lot of newer AAA titles are less polished, have less meaningful content and have inferior artstyle to well made indies
bugs eh
i don't think comparing to hk is unsensible, it was incomplete, sure, but it didn't take them an extra 3 years to amend it, and we don't rly know how much bigger ss is compared to hk
Yeah but yknow, money
and they did say that they want SS to be different and actually polished day 1
abandoned tramway ran like shit
and ppl keep buying this shit sigh
There's always going to be a market for flashy realistic graphics
unfortunately. IMO artstyle is more important then graphical fedelity
less polished yh, but thats gonna happen with more complex games, i'd hardly say art styles are inferior though
Both can be good if done well
eww game rant
News for SS is hardly scarce, there's been a ton of it
damn game rant, who asked
dont know just found it]\
Some people do
bruh, they rly are lurking here lol
~~There's nothing to complain about ~~
Nah believe me we really need the next game with empty way too big open world, bad quests, light rpg elements, climbing towers and a in-game shop which the game is ever slightly balanced around for 60$
take Cybershit 1977. this thing was in development for more than 7 years and we didn't get a lot of news about it till 1 year from launch
Thatâs standard. TC kinda did things in a weird order density wise
yeah instead of a steady stream there were droughts with some sudden and short bursts of info
Although ig if you donât plan to determine a date far in advance you wonât have time to do a ton of news around release
Doing that stuff in 2019 makes sense considering that
shut up and take my geo!
News isnât really scarce though, also fuck game rant
In terms of how often we got news, I'd say its been rather scarce
In terms of the quantity of news, we have quite a bit
On average
It is
Less than three years since announcement with 6 instances of news. 6/3 is⊠?
Announcement, two independent blogposts, demo, edge, riddles
each riddle can be considered a unique release of news
Arguably 7 since the e3 blogpost had its own separate info.
not really
Lori is saying since the riddles were spread out over time instead of dropped simultaneously
that they could count as separate
In the most literal sense they are separate
I think they happened close enough to be considered one thing
I would love another riddle(s)
Doesnât really matter. Average of two instances of news per year holds, and thatâs hardly scarce
I like the lack of news. Less spoilers.
Agreed
The more blind I am the stronger the feelings when I hit the wall
Q2
early
i mean evidences are saying its prob late but im just trying to be a bit optimistic
somewhere in the ballpark of 2022 seems about right
There is no evidence
also
im talking about exclusive development thing
so if i predict its not tomorrow?
I predict that silksong will not release within the next ten minutes
What about DJ Pichu's prediction?
and now, we wait 
I donât have to imagine
I would off myself
Too much memeing after that point I won't be able to take it anymore
Little peoples
Edge was better
edge was cool but not free
can't wait for 12/13/21
worth it though
you didnt even know that zoteboat exist at 2019
The info isnât exactly hard to get if you ask
yeah. But the experience of buying the digital copy myself and reading it as it came out was really unique
Certainly
thatâs something older generations did with game magazines
Closest we got to that were the pamphlets inside game CDs that no longer appear anymore
same
alright ten minutes have passed did silksong release?
I loved the pamphlets in game cds. I remember one of the original professor layton games came with a ticket in the pamphlet that you needed to solve a puzzle
Remind me, if/when Silksong comes out, it will only be available on some platforms, right?
how much is it?
kinda reminds me of the lego magazines i used to get ages ago
no cost too great
last one i got was like 12 yrs ago, so i don't have mine anymore
the free subscription only lasted until you were 9 yrs old
Are we all gonna start a betting pool if we get to two years without TC updating their website
we start paying money for dsn
can't wait until dsn gets that nord vpn sponsorship
videos gonna be longer than a minute
Hey guys
Iâve been in cryo sleep for the past year, just after reading the Edge magazine article on SS!
âŠso please tell me, what did I miss out on?!

haha 
Yeah...that was the last news we got 
did i miss out on hahas? meaning funny dev jokes? 
yeah..
no, i mean like what about any updates after that article 
who is crowey?
Literally nothing
Edge 2020 was the last piece of information about Silksong we got
i can't believe we're less than a month to getting the release date guys
âŠback to cryosleep then đ„Čđ„¶
False, there's a 10 second slowmode so it was more than 2 seconds
A decade passes in front of you in the blink of an eye
you caught me
đą
Silksong released and people played it, shortly after that climate change took over the planet you wake up due to no one being around to repair your pod
farewell, cruel world
i can't hear you, i've farewelled into the timeline that SS has released in
ÂČ
TGA is next month 
silksong is tomorrow
You desperately try to reach a computer and get a copy but the internet has gone down a long time ago like many other services like electricity and water
Itâs misdirection; a false reaction
it's me trying to manifest news in its purest form 

speak it into existance, you know the thing
Silksoon, silksoon, silksoon
Is âletâs talk about toolsâ still a relevant meme here
Si
You lament your final moments as the toxic atmosphere destroys your lungs and skin thinking you could have waited instead of going in the pod at least then you could have played silksong.
"tools" is a tool itself (a reel)
Yâall zote emoji clown on them but someday this will be said and be true
write the full book and sell it for 10 dollars
Can I get a copy
Tbh I think there would actually be a market for it 
everyone who zote-emote's silksoon and the like are pushing silkosong further and further away from existence
collective consciousness is everything
im here for announce zoteboat
what does tga mean
ye i don't think we'll be waiting till E3 2022 hopefully
the game awards 2021 (on Dec 9th)
The Game Awards
Didn't realize TC was actually a tulpa 
The title would probably be like *The last pilgrim of Pharloom" and have a mc that's a silksong fan who got bored of waiting and go in the pod only to find the world destroyed
and when is that?
pog
December 9th iirc
Yep
the message immediately below your first question cuz i'm psychic
December 9th, which lines up perfectly with December 21st, which was also the Gods and Glory release date
dont its releasing at tga
I got into hollow knight in early 2020, I feel bad for the people whoâve been waiting the whole thousand days lol
This is relatable
i got into it in August so im good

i can't wait to play elden ring tomorrow
elden ring release is tmrw?
Wait, it releases tomorrow? I thought it came out next year?
i feel bad for the people who didnt play zoteboat yet
But I already spoiled the ending so I'd have to change it significantly and add more details on what they're thinking in their final moments or instead add details of how their death happens
it comes out in february 2022 ye, there's just a closed network test
im zoteboat's tester
Oh nice lol
Will the boat sink at the ending?
the great zote is there, he wouldnt let this happen
@iron spear I'll give you my elden ring network test code in exchange for SS beta-testing privileges 
I wanna know, and does Zote survive or die due to Brenda taking all the space on that floating door?
he dies as a true hero
He wouldn't let it happen, he would be the reason for it to happen
Wait. Thatâs illegal.


do you remember all zote's precepts?
shh, no one needs to know
Not really
no you dont. Thats why you cant understand, fool
I remember that he says to eat so that you don't die
And that he's greatly sleep deprived
good
Also I remember he has daddy issues
Imagine instead of Zote we get his father's cameo

Why not his mom so the next time we meet him we can legally say âYO M-â
Because there's no mystery towards his mom
Too bad
Gn
Does the game exist? Asking for some friends.
Yes. It exists on TC's computer
See ya
Come back on December 9th instead to watch the nuke
December 9th will be the wildest party of the year ye



