#sk-discussion
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Honestly I’ve gotten worse
Tis but a scratch
I have like 800 more messages than you
God damn it
Get bodied
Well time to start grinding Fordo
And I've been gaining, you joined like 4 months before me
Well let's not forget the like 20 messages I sent on my alt when this account got locked the alt also got locked
Wot?
What is life but progressive deterioration until our inevitable demise 
Gid Gud
Don't forget the replacement of us by newer humans
sorry curly but Tammo has you beat
Eh that part ain't so bad
gonna suck for them tho haha lulz you get a dying planet enjoy
I don't think I have that many messages here

Dude you literally just said you're still a teenager
damn i lost
Yeah I figure I'm probably gonna die maybe a few years before everything goes totally to hell
You got a lot of life left in ya
Isnt half the server teenagers?
Its not the number of results but also the size of the text, tho I think there isn’t that big of a difference between most of us there
Ha
old
This is the internet why you trusting people? 
i am a teenager but i have the body of an adult
||wanna see? i kept it cool in the freezer||
Do people really do that? Go on the internet and tell lies?
Grover has no life
I was waiting for someone to bring up grover
Yes, yes they do
TTacco has Grover beat, so did 56 but they left
Three years
I am an adult but I have body of a teenager, wanna see my basement? 
Unless you're the fbi 
Then I'm not showing you
Ye I think since 56 is gone TTacco is the current reigning message champ
4 of these are lies and one of them is the truth
i can speak 3 languages
my father didnt wanna show up on my birth
i got in a motorcycle accident as a child
i really like mexican food
i shat my pants today
All hail TTacco!
do you like mexican food 
You shat your pants is the truth
But did your mother show up
motorcycle accident is the truth, too specific
im not telling which one is true
The mexican food one is true because everyone loves mexican food
can confirm, i didnt want to be there
HK server loves mexican food
Then everything is true and you're bullshiting us right now, that's the only logical answer 
averaged like 144 msgs a day
no
That's pretty insane but tbh not unachievable
I've averaged about 63 messages a day
Quality over quantity boiz
not unachievable for one day, but every day for 3 years
I average 45.8 messages a day
if thats tiny, then am i a bloody amoeba
I've sent 17x the messages you have this year 
im on about 17/day
none of the things you said are quality
What about that time i
around 15 messages a day

I'm just happy I no longer get 15 DMS a day about silksong
Turns out the red name doesn't actually mean much except occasionally having to work around the NDA
so you only get 14 a day now?
Or when you unintentionally taunt us with silksong news
You don't know about all the secret channels that are good

Actually since I didn’t join that long ago my average must not be so bad, then I only started talking after like 2 months
Not so secret now are they?
You only have about 1.5k messages on secret chats, not a whole lot
Yeah but the lols are forever
Depends on the size of the messages
If that's really a problem I'm sure we can arrange something to change that
whatd you do to stop that
Well I was gonna send a funny meme but Dyno blocked me
reply with nitro scams
people got so bored they stopped dm ing him
Yo, Graig.
That's actually pretty funny
We’ve got plenty of scam links you can rent, Graig
Nothing much, just chilling right now.
What's deaths gambit
Quality? 
Nothing posted here is quality
yeah, define quality
Joker late to the joke once again
2D Metroidvania/Souls-like that recently got an overhaul/giant free expansion that fixed a bunch of issues with the game ever since it released back in 2018 and added a bunch of new content.
it's defined relative to hk-meme
Never mind graig is based
#notsponsored
🤔 interesting
@Crewmate
Nek minnit Kotaku article about TC affiliation sending people scams
it looks quite pretty
did you just look up "from:Graig among us"
I would love to be sponsored by them tbh. I would shill the game endlessly. It's so amazing. And the devs deserve all the love and praise for sticking with their game and improving it so much.
Music is phenomenal too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6wvnjBYDkw&ab_channel=Mythocast
I do not own the rights to Death’s Gambit
No advertising in general
and its only £15, going on the wishlist
looks interesting. Not really into those sorts of flashy graphics though - with the combat I mean
damn, this slaps
It's a boss theme, if you can imagine that.
I can't
The main menu theme is really good too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjI9zcWILB8&ab_channel=JoeDoe
Death's Gambit
Kyle Hnedak - Forest Meadow
Death's Gambit Ost Playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5tOE7ZyTJPH-cZiL4jcBslQwJB1e4t6C

I mean you asked
I know. I was chuckling at your joke.
gonna get this for the music alone
seems like your marketing paid off
Yeah this looks cool
Watch the trailer too. The voice acting is amazing as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uPbBu1Dg98&ab_channel=IGN
Action Platformer Death's Gambit: Afterlife is coming to Nintendo Switch with all-new content from Serenity Forge. Prepare for new ways to slash through enemies with brand new weapons, abilities and enhancements.
#IGN #SummerofGaming
The music is good
Unlike what I listen to
Dammit I keep forgetting to redownload that game
Do it, Tammo.
Yeah I just did before I could forget again
ok, now im just confused as to how i'v never come across this
same 
I have way too many games in my steam library that I still need to play, and many more waiting on my wishlist. looks like this is being added to the top of the list
yeah, i still havent touched unworthy which is the game i got from funding crowsworn
It released to mixed reviews back in 2018 so that's probably why.
I'll take it 
Unworthy is great, played it a while back.
(I'm joking btw)
Ill get to it at some point and kinda excited to but i just keep replaying old games
If they named the protagonist soren I gotta play a mage somehow 
Is Soren the name of a mage in pop culture or something?
It's the name of a mage in one of the most personally significant games I've played
What's the game called?
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
I see
Soren was basically my favorite character too 
Ok so how do you get Crowkart
I backed the game but I realize I have no idea how kickstarter works
cant you just get crowkart?
The game now has a feature where you can test out classes before you pick one to see which you like best. There is indeed a mage class that uses a tome to attack with and scales with the INT stat.

Crowkart > Mariokart (Hasn't played either) Don't @ me 
Soren is the name of one of the 5 knights in Minecraft Story Mode
@gilded adder 
iirc he had a very large staircase in the end
Am I wrong tho
Soren is the main character of Kingdom Hearts right /s
That's Sora I think
no, but i didnt want to have to be reminded of minecraft story mode
That works
so you just asked out of nowhere
Well yes kinda
But first he lulled Ara into a false sense of security
But I'm on another server with him where we interact kinda often
So it wasn't just some rando from main asking to be in DSN
What's DSN?
you can try your luck necro
Yes it was some rando from main and mosscord asking to be in DSN
Daily Silksong News
Oh
Run by Araraura
This is a joke it's a different server
let me in to your secret servers
Regurgitate them
then prepare to un-eat them cloneboy
What one secret server not enough for you Lori
wait what secret server
I'm in like 3 already and it's never enough
What secret server are you two in that I'm not 
I would like in on whatever this is please
Not like it's really a secret one though
Gday silkbuds
I'm only in 1 secret server and all three of you are there as well
You knew before we invited you
Wait a second that was one of the reasons why we invited you 
what
I'm in more secret servers than all of you and I could be in more if they'd let me innnnnnn
Let me count
Ngl Fordo and I sound very similar
5
secret servers are cringe
yeah but people keep making them
let me in
Why be in secret server when you have the Hollow Knight right here
You're already in 2 of them, have access to the 3rd, and know about the 4th (I think)
Lori if you made a secret server I would join it
Oh crap this guy knows too
What's hk
Fordo we all know about the 4th you guys aren't that discrete 
i ment hi, sorz
is the 4th the one that's public knowledge
True
I'm also in a secret server that you left fordo
It's only common knowledge in one of the secret ones we share and the one I left
That's literally the whole point of secret servers
And some people in mosscord
And another one I know about but am not in
To leave ppl out?
I guess so 
Despite the fact that I apparently know the entire staff. Smh my head invite me already 😠
I can't dm you
I guess theres a good reason to keep servers secret, people want servers for their friends and don't want to make people they don't invite feel like they're being left out
Why are we talking about this again
you brought it up
So anyway Unn is going to be the final boss of Silksong
Oh. Right
Since she's the only HB who hasn't done something at least a tiny bit wrong yet
a tiny bit? I feel like all the other higher beings did something very morally wrong
That's why I put "at least" there
Idk!
"Ford" something looks like
Captain Ford, truck dealer near you
I'm a big fan of fords
ooh goodie
Nightmare Heart did nothing wrong
Oh yeah that exists
ehhhhhh
dunno, feel like overriding brumm's personality and taking his memories was at least kinda mean
Yeah TNH is at least slightly meanie poopie head
that’s what the point of the mask is lori
wonder who gave him the mask if not the troupe
I'm going to crap my pants
also no the mask is for covid
don't do that then you'll have to get new pants
Oh that's true, I'm in my uniform pants
That's what the mask is
That's what the point of the mask is
#hk-meme message
I'm not going to watch that because I don't have headphones
ewww. you made you go to hkmeme
I'm sorry but I'm a 900 year old so I don't get the reference
You replyed to the wrong message
it’s literally what necro said previously
I'm still not going to watch it to preserve my sanity
No
No, I wouldn't be surprised if it will come out in Febuary
That's besides the point
You mean if it didn't come out in Feb?
Go to bed
No
Wake up
It's June 2022
Silksong still isn't out yet
NO
Sure

Games take time. SS hasn't had that much time yet.
B-b-b-b-but Tammy, it's been 3 years!!!

you could tell me silksong was coming out in 2025 and id believe it, games take time
It's been 3 whole years, that's good, it's not like they had to come up with a whole new art style and everything, they had all that from HK
Well I guess that means they didn't have to draw any new art either
Coming up with the artstyle isn't the bulk of the work in making a game 
art STYLE i said
turns out they have contracted a song from Martin/Wintergatan to be played on the marble machine X for the soundtrack, so SilkSong can't release before he has finished it. There's only some minor problems he has to fix so I bet it's gonna be soon™ 
what what? explain pls
its a joke
I'm pulling everyones leg. Marble machine X will take probably at least 2 more years
so could silksong realistically
and Martin decided that he has to build the real marble machine after that
but I'd encourage anyone to watch him building the machine on his Wintergatan channel (no promotion) because it shows the journey and suffering of somebody trying to build a beautiful dream
delusionally*** hopelessly****
and how it takes fucking longer than anybody could have guessed
Another two years would give SS like five years of exclusive development. That's hardly a delusional or hopeless figure
art style doesnt really mean much, they still had to draw all of the art in silksong.
and 3 years is short for a game, a tiny group made a huge game called hollow knight in just a few years while even AAA game studios spend years and years making games.
hmm i watched like one wintergartan video and it was something to do with a song from a marble machine thingy ill have to see more
5 years is totally reasonable for a game like SS
you probably saw the one that's gone viral, with a machine build from wood
they meaning Ari
I cant wait for SS to ruin gaming for me
exactly, it might even be SHORT
by that you mean its gonna be so fucking amazing that every other game pales in comparison?
turns out they needed over 40 hours to make that video clip because the machine kept failing
after that he decided to build a sturdier one (and also one that would fit through the door of his atelier) to go on world tour
What else
and that's the marble machine X he's still building
I mean hollow knight damn near ruined gaming for me a few months ago so im excited to see silksong ruin literally everything for me
oh wow but yeah thats the one i saw ill have to check out more
After you 100% SS, you die because there is nothing worth living for after. Your life has peaked
hollow knight didn't ruin gaming for me, I learned to tamper my expectations pretty quickly by playing super metroid
....... I'm not waiting 5 years honestly
Well then, see ya 
In 5 years I'll be buried
ok well that's your problem
cya
because theres a perfect fine chance itll take 5 years
a 2024 release sounds good to me tbh so uh thats ur problem
I mean realistically they've had a little over half a year of dev time before the reveal trailer
And that's only if we assume they went straight from working on Godmaster to silksong
They said they started development shortly after HK initially came out, right?
they were working on silksong well before godmaster
i thought it was 2019 thats what i was going on the assumption of
it technically started just a few months after release and was being worked on alongside the content packs
they started development of "a smol $5 game" after HK, yeah
But like serious dev time only started after Godmaster iirc
yeah, that was when full time development started
I remember an AMA where they said their top priority was the Hornet DLC and then the Content Packs were second.
they could only seriously have started SS full game dev from the moment they had Jack
Who?
That's ridiculous. Why would they prioritize SS when they had content packs due to release earlier
but the time during content packs was probably a lot of trailer content
I don't know but I vividly remember them making a list on the reddit comment and it was like
- Hornet DLC
- Content Packs
- Something Else
Fearless Fox 
so if they were working on "Hornet DLC" do you count that as working on SS 
Well, at the time we didn't know it was Silksong so they kept it as Hornet DLC to avoid revealing anything.
at some point they decided they couldn't do it justice based off the HK game
they might not have known it was gonna be silksong though at the time
and it needed to be its own full length game instead of a small release
I remember them saying they decided to make it a full game very early in the development/game idea creation stage.
oh ok (you're the expert here not me lmao im just speculating)
they decided to make it a separate game, albeit a small one for $5 (Leth interview)
later on they decided to make it a full blown game
I'm by no means an expert. I just watched their one Silksong video too many times 
Oh, ok. That makes sense. I didn't know about that since I never watched that Leth interview.
lmao but yk what i mean
interesting
kinda wondering what the ss price
I predict no more than 20 bucks tbh
I assume it's the same ballpark as HK since that was a success
I expect 15$ again
I don't think they would break the precedent of 15$ they set with HK
I remember them saying they want to give everyone a chance to play their games so keeping it in the same range as HK would be keeping in line with their ideals.
they clearly don't care about the playtime to price ratio, nor should they
well, yes, it could be like 15 dollars but hk was a huge success and ss sounds like its gonna be huge so maybe theyll raise it to 20 dollars
maybe a few doll hairs more since $15 in 2021 isn't the same as in 2017
that's true but I don't think TC is having money troubles 
but yeah around $15-$20 is what a lot of people expect
Thank you, sir Wombat. 
you're welcome
they can price it at pretty much anything and turn a profit since it has a huge pool of guaranteed buyers
ah yes becaue inflation now silksong will be $16.80
no but they changed their professions to full time dev so it's their J
B now
pretty obviously its not going to be but I would buy silksong on the first day it comes out without second thoughts if it was 60 dollars
$60 wouldn't make sense
like studios with 1000 people working on a game for 5-6 years take that
it was their job since the kickstarter iirc
they were trying it out, they didn't know if it would succeed
if it failed then do you think they would stay game devs?
probably not
yesyes i said obviously its not going to be 
TAKE THAT!
admittedly the studios are underselling at $60
hi gelator
which means shit pay for a lot of people working on the games sadly
letarog
yeah but
yeh people think $60 is expensive and there's also a lot of shit sold at that price, but realistically a well produced game made by a big studio should be more around $100
baseline
people pirate $5 games...
i mean though
if its cheaper, its cheaper and more people will buy it, but if its expensive its expensive but less people buy it
if the studios can't afford to pay their employees then they shouldn't be in business at all 
Most people pirate because they can’t afford the game
like if a game thats 60 dollars makes 100,000 sales thats 6 million, and if a 100 dollar game gets 60,000 sales its... also 6 million. see what ii mean?
if it's too cheap then the product has a high chance to be shit, you'll destroy consumer trust and your company image
Hollow knight
: Silksong
hey click this LinK and play free online amongus!!!!!!!! amogngnsus.dkm bro ensjkjn
We all know how team cherry’s company image is in the gutter right now 
Because their game cheap
club penguin was free and that game slapped, so checkmate
if the product is good then people will also pay $100
we just had a guy here telling us he'd pay $60 for silksong, that's 3-4 times the expected price
wow i wonder what fucking hooligan said that!!
they're 3 people, not 1000, so they earn a fuckton more than the average game dev even at the price of $15
true, baby wilbo will inherit a fortune like harry potter
did u just
that implies the other memebers of team cherry die horribly wtf
I mean Ari already died and with Jack it's just a matter of time before he gets hit by a bus because nobody knows who he is
whos jack?
what
exactly
Exactly grover, it's like final destination but specifically TC
I always assume it's the flesheating plants Graig is raising is what'll get em
Mfw no one remembers Jack
mfw Chris wasn't even mentioned
chris? like christopher larkin, or some other chris ive never heard of
Yeah Larkin
Chris will deliver the orchestra to your door to play the music for a small fee
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/899711898122084412/larkin.jpg
is it just me that really likes hive knight theme or
leth is hunted down by a mob of risk of rain 1 fans whose lobby crashed one too many times
I hope the musicians are free range 
no worries they get plenty of exercise once they're playing the score
if you want free range musicians you're gonna have to pay for another 3 trucks
free range? isnt that like a beef thing
and they get fed with human welfare in mind
probably
um
nice, but does it have a bronze or delrin bushing?
idk all i know is it is wood handle and cast iron, comes with grinder. Handle screws four blades and inner attachment
it's about the part the back of the worm screw (or feed screw) sits in. When you have a device where you can't use a ball bearing for some reason you use a bushing, which is just a ring of material. And a delrin (or god beware plastic) one gets worn out years earlier than a bronze one, so I'd make sure to get a meat grinder with a bronze bushing
thats nice can we go back to talking about silksong 
the correct response would have been "sir, this is a wendy's"
so no points
silksong
holy shit i just realized ur pfp is a meat grinder 
no, it's a cheesoid
I swear you always have the randomest facts, Cheesoid
cheesoid
whats that
if its something to do with cheese im gonna go eat dinner
is that a threat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_m17HK97M8
actual origin (no trap)
Cheesoid with the factoid
Your pfp kind of looks like a sad cat trapped in a glass tube
But that's before I knew it was a robot
Also I see you are an orange again Jonny 
Yes, we have graduated from Christmas Tree to Orange.
As have I graduated from spooky Pacha to christmas Pacha
This is the full image. It's a character from Arknights.
I was talking about Cheesoid
That's a cool pic though!
Oh, my bad
You responded after my message without replying so I got confused lol
Hollowmas is an exciting time, yea.
I cant wait for Santabug to come and give us lots of toys
Love the Christmas getup Curly
🎵 Santabug is coming to town 🎵
if it's a husk guard with a santa hat and a big bag I'd run tho
I’m waiting until Thanksgiving ends before I get Merry
Carrying a big bag of infection
Thanksgiving
That’s not til the 25th…at least in the US
hi gamers
its a joke.
turkey 🤮
Friendship with gaming ended
turkey is
Okay, i guess. but i wouldnt rank it very high on the meats list
deffo ahead of ALL seafood categories and ham but other than that i dont prefer it to anything much
make it mandatory that Hornet needs to eat and rest after some time
i dont even need bonuses i just want an animation of her
on the Inn
of course before eating you need to get a recipe from
and collect all the ingredients 
Can't, TC can't animate small mouths
my theory is that they can and do but our displays simply don't have the resolution to show them
itll probably hornet shaking her head wildly while loud CHOMP CRUNCH sounds play and food soft particle effects pop out every second
we have seen mines... tool crafting... so SilkSong really is just...

Sherma199: "/givve Sherma199 255 19"
Sherma199: "/give 255 19"
Sherma199: "/give Sherma199 377 19"
Sherma199: "guys how do you spawn smokerocks"
/kill Lace
damn this boss fight's so easy idk why u guys suk so much lmao
DA_STEEL_ASSASSIN_9292: "This boss fr isnt even hard yal just suck tbh"
D4ughter0fH4llownest: "u literrally have an Power V enchanted gilded pin ofc its an easy fight stfu"
sv_cheats 1
noclip
Easiest platforming level of my life
tgm
Guys
honestly id prefer damage buffs being tied to temporary consumables
rather than "heres a flat 50% increase as long as you equip this shit"
so whats the lifeblood injection then
a golden apple?
apple juice with blue food coloring, I knew it
Im totally with you on that one Ttacco
How would they decide when to end the buff though if it’s temporary
you dont
you drink it
andd for 30 seconds you literally destroy people
then limit it to like -2 tools per sortie, and bump up the shard cost while youre at it
I'm okay with a 10 second powerup if it can be used mid-fight
I'm just worried I'll stockpile the shite out of them
hornet douses her needle in gasoline, then lights a match
I think I would prefer the attack bonus being based on hit count rather than time
makes it more consistently useful between skill levels
yeah i can get behind that
pine resin
boo you dark souls fans ruin everything
YOU ruin everything
thanks 
Speaking of Darksouls ||big tree boss tips||
also i wish games had more something to elements other than "oh this one is resisted by this thing" etc
usually though they at least add something like ice = slow, lightning = stun, fire = dot etc
Darkspore had this thing where instead of elements making you more powerful against certain enemies, if an enemy was the same type as your hero they would be stronger against you
iirc
so it was still a defense thing
I like the different element types in Hades, there pretty varied compared to most games
like theoretically poison and doom are just slightly different versions of DoT but the way they're implemented gives them much more pronounced variation
d..doom
that's also why I'm kinda disappointed by status effects in dead cells, fire poison and bleed are just the same thing but you can stack them separately
TF2 has afterburn and bleed. Bleed is more dangerous and less things can remove it but literally only 5 or so weapons inflict bleed and they never committed to making the status very interesting
shame
Slay the Spire does poison very well though
yeah bleed is essentially just fire but better "burst" potential though
poison in Slay the Spire goes through blocks and deals damage equivalent to its level, which is also how many turns the poison will last and it goes down by 1 after activating each turn
the poison vs doom thing in hades is a cool dichotomy (although technically poison is actually hangover)
hangover is a proportionally small amount of damage that hits enemies at a consistent tick rate and can be stacked up to 5 times by default
doom is a much larger amount of damage but it takes a full 2 seconds to activate, only hits once, and can't stack
My favorite loadout for scout is shortstop, guillotine, wrap assassin, because's the most annoying thing I could think of. It's genuinely almost non-lethal, it's just unfathomably annoying
👴
respect your elders
I wouldn't mind as long as you don't mind me being excessively bad
whippersnapper
everyone else is excessively bad to the eyes of a moderator 
no obv i dont care
SS TF2 server when?
Where are you from Wombat?
East Coast U.S.A.
thanks
happy hunting
thats a bit rude
How else will I gain your powers though?
asking nicely
Oh shit. Didnt know that was an option
Absorption, copy cats, etc
Also sorry for making that a bit too dark
is ok
I wonder what group lace is part of
The Shins
Possibly the steel assasins but I wonder if there are any other theories
This is somebody's artwork team cherry featured in one of their blog posts, I noticed team cherry title it as "something ancient awakens"
Just thought it might be worth discussion
Legend has it, it used to be used for mining resources, resources that were used to make giant golems, which were used to mine resources, which were used to make giant golems
I can't tell if this is a reference to something or actual silksong information
you know this character appeared in the silksong trailer, right?
also "something ancient awakens" just seems like a cryptic hint to the boss in question
I know it was in the trailer, I'm just talking about what its titled as ( starved for silksong over here )
Mechanical golems in hollow knight were used to mine crystals
These crystals, as far as we know, were near exclusively used to make more golems
I see now
even If we know know this thing is ancient, It doesn't add much since the deep docks sounds to be pretty ancient itself
This is the plot of Titanfall
I love this logic
build golem
use golem to mine more crystal
turns out crystals are only really useful for golems
build more golems.
cycle repeats
There's actually probably a decent explanation
On one of the older gameplay demos of HK, crystals were in where we now find soul totems, and used to give soul
I imagine since the golems seem to be purely mechanical, crystals power a lot of the elevators and machinery hidden around Hallownest
There's a chance a whole area was based on this idea, this idea was then changed, but they didn't wanna get rid of the idea
What remains, is a large scale mining operation that funnels into the kingdoms trade hub, except the crystals no longer have an actual narrative purpose
This is all speculation off of 3 seconds of ancient gameplay though. So take with a spoon of salt
did not know about this, very cool 
also if you do want to use color theory, crystals used to be more white than pink in the earlier versions, so them containing soul would make sense.
William and Ari of Team Cherry take you on a brief tour of the Forgotten Crossroads in their upcoming game Hollow Knight.
Well yeah, that too.
Check it.
that or very very unlikely, TC was like
it does something but we have 0 clue as to what 
hmmm yes. Video. (not loading)
“Yet Unspecified mechanic”
Ah.
nw saw the YT video anyway
TLDR: crystals used to give soul before soul was even named
Geo was still referred to as fossils though. So that's cool
The comments on that video are interesting
Lots of people acting like they’re better than everyone else cuz they played HK
Most of them are 4-6 years old on my end, lol
comment from this video
It's funny because ori released in 2015 and this video of HK in development was posted in 2014
and ori 2 copied hk
guy is just dumb or baiting
it has to be a troll
ye
i see someone mentioning they miss the sidestep
elden ring gameplay tomorrow wooooo
but when i played the beta that Graig released this year, it was so unintuative
like its better to just turn around and dash
its not like the game has a turn time
without lock-on, there's no reason to have sidestep/backwards-dashing yeah
a 2 combat game with lock on, though, would be interesting
she jumps into the background z axis
the hubris of the denizens of pharloom is that they can only travel in a single z axis
rendering hornet, invincible
what
oh no not the dreaded z axis
oh god, geometry?
Drag and drop hornet to the top layer of the game art and just walk past all the enemies
ya know
x axis is left and right
y axis is up and down
z axis is "in" and "out"
the people of hallownest are unable to move pass the z axis
they are stuck in the purgatory known as "0" z axis
TC codes using Z-axis height, theta, and psi... it's polar coordinates y'all, not this cartesian schtuff
well i fucking hate math so you cant really do anything for me
silksong speedrun strats?
Increase your theta and only theta
I was there too!
Frightening
crystals are told to contain a similar power to soul but way less power, but safer to use so idk if it still could be soul changed by the crystals or if it means its a totally diffrent kind of power
love this game
Hiii phrax
why play squid game when you can play crab game
i was gonna make an amazing joke where i go onto risk of rain 2s mod loader r2modman, download a hollow knight mod and then say "the new silk song leak is looking sick" but there is no hollowknight mods and now im just sad
ok i know this likely fake but just checking in, silksong didn't quietly release did it?
it didnt 
Nah, this place would've exploded if it did
I thought as much
how do you get discord to say you're playing something like that
eh
dont know dont care
You change the name of the application your using in discord
We just have to wait till 3rd week of december guys zote
Milksong?
no guys remember the 21st night of September is the release date
it's 24th of Febuary smh
when silksong releases, our combined hype will restructure the sourcecode of the universe to permanently delete ss-discussion's slowmode and the option to turn it on. it will be impossible to read anything
the entire world will collapse
I pity the fool who's here then and not playing Silksong 
buddy
how do u do, fellow humans 😄
Decently enough, how're you on this fine morning/afternoon/evening/whatever it is for you
silksong when pls 😩 😩
When it's ready
I swear there are people in this chat or hk-disc which will just gift someone hk if they contribute well to discussion
Hey I only did that once and just because I had an extra steam key 
Yeah if people really like the game and have money to spare then it’s not a big thing
For them at least
But presumably the date will be announced a few weeks before release so people'll have time to get hold of $15
15 bucks ARE 15 bucks
oof thats like 60 in my currency
you mean with equivalent currency conversion?
ok tbf i spent like 100 on genshin by now, i can cough up 60-
yah, when i bought it on switch it was like 60 smthn
no I mean if a cheeseburger costs let's say $2, then in your currency it would cost $8 equivalent?
so 4x more expensive?
i think the conversion rate is smthn like 1$ = 3,something zł
nah that's just the numbers and doesn't tell you about buying power
Considering that they said "oof thats like 60" I assume that is a significant amount
like $15 is around 1500 yen but that's not like it's 1500 dollars equivalent
oh polish yeah
polish gang
If 60 wasn't a lot I'd probably say "oh so like only 60" or smth
about a quarter conversion from usd
Two months until the last news drop anniversary WHOOOOO!!
sobs im hoping that one leak was at least somewhat accurate i want silksomg
ok so 60 PLN seems to be around 3 McDonalds meals
Well if development is anything like Hollow Knight, they got a scope creep that has them adding new stuff until they feel satisfied with the content. Unfortunately (or fortunately?) they don’t have anything like the pressure from backers to release any time soon.
smecks my hands on the table SILKEE NOW
so it's the same ballpark as $15 but may be harder to get for Polish people
So no release date means development could be that they are still adding stuff.
development doesn't just mean adding stuff
@proud vale Yekane's playing Outer Wilds too now 
Amazing.
Dev interviews and etc has shown their approach to finishing Hollow Knight was adding content in finished segments, and keep adding stuff until they were satisfied, that’s their own definition of scope creep, and how stuff like the hive and charms got added.
Silksong is no different to this approach.

that they didn't talk publicly about problems they encountered and how they solved them doesn't mean those didn't exist
I'd say "adding stuff" is just max 50% of developing a piece of software
What I’m trying to say is that no release date means that they don’t plan on releasing anytime soon and are still in a scope creep phase.
the first part is true, the second part has no evidence
It doesn't mean that
but imagine: silkee tommorow
They last few blogposts have them talk about it.
That they have no absolute release date does not mean the scope of the game is still increasing
wdym do you know the date of the last blogpost? 
in one of the Leth interview he talks about how TC keeps adding more and more stuff, lemme 2 sec im gonna try to find it
I… ouch… oof…
also again, if they're not talking about something that doesn't mean it doesn't exist
they just don't talk about their problems in public
what they show is what they want to show and they make it look good
Yeah, showing various bugs and whatnot that arise during development is hardly a good way to get people to buy your game
or going "yeah so we did that crest and tool system but after 8 months it grew into an abomination and we're now in the process of reworking it into something more realistic"
or "Graig can't get past the tutorial so game is maybe too hard" 

Graig is game journalist
its always in the same ballpark, given steam adjusts their prices based on region
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7NgnKRJRBE
there it is
1:38:29
Thanks so much for joining us for this VERY special Interview with none other than Leth from Team Cherry & Mongoose Rodeo! Leth has been part of the Team Cherry team since before the launch of Hollow Knight, and plays the key role of Marketing/PR for the amazing Team Cherry team. He is also now working with Mongoose Rodeo, on their super excitin...
15 seconds · Clipped by SANEGOR · Original video "Last Life: Episode 7 - BETRAYED" by Grian
I do not think this is ss
das funny but why in #sk-discussion
right then
I had to share this hilarious moment here
does the community believe ss is coming out in february
Yes
Why though
Some do
izz probs a placeholder
Isnt ss discussion a random discussion anyways?
its not an impossible release date but its not like it was confirmed, just a hope for now
but i'm not giving my hopes up
if you listen to the interview closely you'll hear Leth say "whenever I join a team I try to..." so he's talking in general and not saying "Team Cherry keep adding more and more stuff".
He's basically saying to be mindful of scope creep and surely he will have talked about that with TC as well.
I think a february ss release would be nice
just wondering whether otptimists are the majority or minority. thanks for the info
yesterday would also be nice cuz then I'd be playing right now
It's not about optimism
do not confound optimism with blind faith
like let's say you owe $10000, optimism would be "I can find a job and pay that off in 2 years", vs blind faith "I'll find a suitcase with $10000 on the street tomorrow"
I haven't really been around since the optimism/pesimism divide in the community so I'm using those terms
Those terms are poorly applied
probably
yeah some people tend to call everyone a pessimist that doesn't have blind faith
And it's easier to make "optimist" sound good
he's talking about how TC's call go and how they have more and more idea and he's "like wow this is... i mean i love hearing it because thats the fun part of the creative process but it's also kind of like we havent figured that out yet or are we just gonna keep adding stuff"
I wish
my point is he's not saying "TC are adding more and more stuff" as somebody claimed above 😉
he is in conversation with them about scope creep but that's not the same at all
and I'm sure that's not all they're talking about
i mean they are adding stuff otherwise there woudnt be a game, but if rn they are done with the game and just adding little details or if they havent even finished the structure yet is speculation
I think we'll see some news in december or early 2022
in my opinion the HK updates signal a change in development phase, in classical terms going from alpha (adding/constructing all the foundations of content they want in) to beta(fleshing out/testing/making sure stuff works/adjusting)
but yeah that's speculation, although not completely unfounded
and it still means probably no SilkSong in Feb
for a small studio there also may not be such a distinct line between phases as there would be in a big studio
so they could be in "beta" but still go "oh yeah but what if we put this in that would work nicely"
Unless TC is just taking a break, I think SS is mostly complete
I hope 
but what do you mean by "complete"
a software past alpha is "mostly complete" but not in a state to be released to the public
Content, art etc. for the game 90% done
And Ari not having the feeling to redesign everything
Complete as in assets I think they mean
Ye basically

but technically overall from all the work that has to be done on the game that could still be around 50% done

even if all the assets have been added in
?
looks at edge compared to trailer and demo
bro the funniest shit is coming in here and getting SS news from some dudes guesswork about progress.
This
Honestly everything Ari did was add lines to all the metal assets
That wasn't really redesign it was just enhancement
yeah
Oh you mean redesign redesign overhaul redesign
well at least I explicitly said it's speculation 
Or is it?
Mine was just speculation too
Hey, vsauce, Micheal here
apparently around the time they started updating HK their programing software, Unity , got an big update so that might be the reason they went back to update HK (then i saw this on an YT comment so maybe i should fact check)
yes definitely the unity update was an incentive to do that, but they wouldn't do it if they didn't have the coding time to spare
it's better to have all your games on the same unity version because that makes maintenance so much easier
also some HK bugs may have been easier to fix in the new version
Jacky jack
you mean Jorge Vino, their lead programmer 
Jack needed a beanstalk and an axe to code ss

Choma
Google Chroma
chroma papas
Hollow chroma
https://youtu.be/JldMvQMO_5U heavy trolling
Join us at 3 PM CET/7 AM PDT on November 4th for a 15-minute #ELDENRING Gameplay Preview. Countdown begins at 2:45 PM CET / 6:45 AM PDT.
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Tw...
10 minutes
it says 7
nah I'll watch it in 6
nah let's do it in 5
Wait what the heck is this
"ELDEN RING - Gameplay Preview"
I also have to guess the assets are done or close to done, but bug testing and polishing can take a while, which is why my hopes aren't skyhigh
Oh and it’s legit?
I think so?
yes it's legit, you get free nitro from watching that's how you know 
What’re we watching
EldenKnight: SilkRing
stfu this is now an eldenring channel
Elden Ring watch party channel
I already bought 2 pounds of Pogs
why are there so many countdowns
12 minute countdown
https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v2/114836/static/light/2.0

Music tho
They have a point though
wow
the 10 minute countdown into 15 minute countdown is an unbeatable combo I must admit 
well played
10 into 15 true combo at 0%
it's like they knew my armor has 0% countdown resist
yeah the music makes you feel like you're gonna die 10 times to the first trash mob in the game
I needa learn more bout elden ring
Ah, that’s why the music fits the game so well 
story written by GRR Martin
Not the entire story
well the whole framework of the story and key aspects of it
Wut I thought it was written by Tolkien
Alright let’s go
is elden ring DS part 2?
no
are they connectedeither way bro this is epic
it's not even in the same universe
they're connected by the dev studio and director but that's all
ohh
also DS2 and DS3 have been out for a while now
if you hold a controller it almost feels like you're already playing 
Wow that is a nice looking map
you got a nice map g
or seeing it's a FromSoft game
"wow a map"
thats epik but #art-discussion
Bro the forest lighting looks gorgeous
you know we're talking about something else right
yeah what are yall even talking about?
elden ring gamplay preview is live
Also @proud vale nice pfp 
Cheers 
its november 
All I want for Christmas is
NO
YOUUUUUUUU
No more
ohhhhhhhhhhh baby

Silksong 
why do you do this to me 
To simply make you suffer after months of not being here
On christmas I gave you my heart
I don’t want a lot for Christmas
because it's not christmas
EldenRing
close enough
its november 
It's the beginning of November
It looks good
There is just one thing I need
At least wait until we are 3/4 through
which is a november with no christmas
Exactly
Can I still see the new news of Silk Song before January next year
too optimistic 
Silksong at the fortnite direct
i knew that... i didnt even have forest in the render
Just messing around bro
Do yall think its gonna be in ps5?
Eventually, unless some compelling reason arises for it not to be
Yea i thought so ... i know it took a while for HK to be on ps4
Eventually, unless all PS5’s suddenly explode
Or, like, Sony demands an exorbitant sales fee or the porting would be more trouble than it's worth 
DAMMIT I MISSED THE CHRISTMAS SONGS
shouldn't you be glad
I think it would be funny if we'd ban half of that
That's 50k members since like March, damn
"To celebrate reaching 150k members, the staff here on Hollowcord unanimously decided to enroll pruning!"
wait no that'll get rid of like 2/3 of members
If I leave the server before they do it
And then rejoin after
I won’t be banned 
What's the point of pruning anyways? Is it harmful to have inactive people in the server?
pruning only kicks people actually
and uh it depends on the server really
we dont do it because there isnt any real reason to
but its technically a good way to gauge "active" members versus "people who joined and just dont do anything"
I guess but why would you need to 
idk
hello fellow Silksong anticipators, it's really been a while since the last news
It’s only been like a year
It's longer than we've gone before but not alarmingly so
I accidentally watched a silksong video recently and got hyped for it again 
pruning sounds annoying if you joined a server just for its emotes
Especially since this server has so many
nitro user problems aren't real problems
Sad 
we will purge half of you all
Cool
do it
you misunderstand what he said
we will purge half of everyone here
you will all be vaporized from the waist down
oh that's not good
Even me?
Silksong is a lie created by the gonverment

You should rename yourself to TTanos if you do it
Time to invite some alts!
56
57
i havent even completed the greek alphabet series
8 months 
i wonder whens the next time we get silksong news
What does pruning even mean?
death
turning something into a prune
Idk ask ara
Any new milksong news
?sspsa
Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. 
@ ara what does prune mean-
idk ask ara
Prune is a term for a grumpy old lady
Therefore when you're pruning something, you're turning it into a grumpy old lady
pruning in this context is kicking every member that hasn't contributed (for a while)
Oh
Yes, when you get kicked you get turned into a grumpy old lady
I can confirm firsthand that this is true
I went from a teenager to 70 years old
Well good thing I don't have that issue
Το ποιο;
noio
Translation: The what?
Ha old man, you won't even be able to play silksong because of your hands!
Ha and you think you'll live long enough to play silksong 
I'll just use my tongue then
I snapped your tongue
Oh that's why my gum tastes weird

Oh ye I also stole your legs but ignore that
Huh no those weren't my legs
hey who stole my legs
Those were Fives' legs
Oh ye, it was Pyro's legs
oh you can keep them
there are a sight too many legs around here
Did you know there are around 2 legs for every person
on average there's less than 2 legs per person
Clearly they outnumber us by far too much and many should be removed
yet still I have 2, so I must be above average
Wait that's true
I don't think hornet needs more than one leg


