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Hail and heavy rain are both very cool but just when you’re inside 
i dont mind it outide if im coming home, if im going out though its a pain
I got stuck at the train station with hail once and the train broke down and we had to walk along the tracks to the closest station 
Storms
When one happens late at night, it’s nice falling asleep to the sounds of rain and thunder outside (except those occasional times where it sounds like an explosion)
Plus, they’re very cinematic, I just think they look cool with the tornadoes and such 
((Plus plus, if the storm is angry enough, we don’t get have to go to school
))
omg it's snowstito spooky edition
Yeah I love storms, makes me just feel like a little small thing aside the big thunder
Haven't seen you around here in a bit 
Also yes I agree, falling asleep to rain is the best
I’d have to pose that the worst weather is cloudy and humid
You tell me first 
Oo I hate humid weather
“If I always say Silksong is tomorrow, eventually I’ll be right”
- some guy in this channel
I stole mine from ozlin
Lmao
He had too many numbers
He needed to be pruned
Humid and cloudy weather is just depressing but you can hopefully look forward to the storm about to come
Yesterday after school there was a massive black cloud right over my neighborhood
Like, one of the darkest clouds I've ever seen
It never rained tho 
Weather is cool
the grim?
Is that the grim reaper
oh my oh my oh my
Best story is when he new Aphrodite was cheating on him with Ares so he made a net to catch them in the act on got all the Gods to see it and they just laughed at him for being so pathetic
Where I am there is fog everywhere ( I may live in greymoor )
I thought he succeeded and they laughed at Ares/Aphrodite
Pretty sure they are laughing cos he's so shit but I can't remember
Everything is going to be okay. You have just gone off the path a little bit. Please continue forward into the fog. You have nothing to fear. Everything will be okay. Everything will be okay. Everything will be okay.
That's how I will always remember it lmao
Funniest thing about Hephaestus is that he’s unbearably ugly but also allegedly had beautiful feet.
I’m serious. there was one story where a woman/god was meant to pick out the god they wanted to marry (baldur in this case) and could only pick based on their feet behind a curtain
And ended up with Sméagol
Guy should just be happy he gets to hook up with Aphrodite at all
I think I saw something move in it, It might of been a truck but that would be strange since we live in a deep forest ( joke ) ( hopefully )
I wouldn't be surprised if he never did
Someone make a virgin Chad meme with him and Ares lol
how did that come to happen?
That is not a truck. It is a friend. It will help you find your way. All you have to do is go towards it. Everything will be okay.
Zeus felt sorry for him so married him to her
Hephestaus is literally the only god to be both ugly and crippled
God. Divine being. Ugly and crippled
and aphrodite had no say in this, correct?
what am I saying this is greece
Oh I see, I'll try find him right nkoliklp98fdptrlyflA
Well.. women didn't have much say in those times unfortunately
and sounds like hepatitis
Aphrodite had been born from the waves a few minutes previously so I don't think modern common sense had much say in this story
wait, did hephestaus even agree to that?
Mate she's the hottest girl in the universe
If I was Hephaestus I would be psyched
Actually, if I was Hephaestus I would be depressed
Man had a sucky life
Poor dude can't even kill himself
when did he try that?
I don't think he did I'm just making a dark joke.
We talking Greek Mythology now?
Nah he got thrown off of mt olympus by his mom cuz he was ugly
and then became crippled because of that
Also aphrodite technically chose to go with Hephaestus cuz he forged her pretty shit
that was like the one child hera had with zeus and she throws it off a cliff
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wtf they cant touch me son i literally have 2FA
fix your eyes weeb
Shut up earth chan
MOOOOOOOOD FIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!
mood fight
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Lizard got hacked
not bugged, just has to do with how the autodelete bot is rn
hmm
the situation is in flux right now
Its becoming self aware
Can he delete ss-discussion whilst he’s at it
to sate autodelete, we will let it prowl the server, devouring users with wanton savagery
starting with Wombat
staff members are off limits
Nitro boosters, however, are not
It is possible for the gods to die in greek mythos, it's just a really convoluted process
Hynd blood
It's also not like, DEATH death
Wait that means Graig can die
hahahahaha
Only once you beat his fourth phase tho
Is Graig a Hellenistic deity..?
Someone Said mod fighting?
Yes.
Introduce Kratos
Graigos
boy!
Boy
Alright, Graig can pseudo-die
Btw hi everyone how are you all doing?
||Im going to become this server npc at this rate||
Yeah
Doing alright
And you curly?
Heya Igna
Hi Orange
Yeah you are becoming the server NPC 
neat
great
I have to get new phrases to start conversations tbh
Noce
I've probably only watched the trailer a couple hundred times
those are rookie numbers. you gotta pump those numbers up
I think i watched it 5 times,honestly im not too updated to silksong stuff
I use this chat as an offtopic chat
I haven’t watched the trailer that many times but I’ve watched the treehouse footage heaps
I cant download the treehouse footage so I dont watch it much. Scrubbing through youtube videos isnt great
File too large?
I dont know any good youtube downloaders. Nor do I want to put the effort into it getting it
And most free ones would probably say file too big
Yup
Very true, now I can don’t have to play it and Arceus legends at the same time
I still need to achievement hunt
I still ||need to get the the eye in the main game, and meet the prisoner there||
I'll fight Kratos that wimp
Graig is the real God of War
Guy probably hasn't even done radiant marmu
probably rage quit at radiant tiktik
radiant sherma is absolute garbage
theres no way to dodge the bastards double void tendril slam attack
ugh. dont get me started on rad bell prince sherma. Seriously did TC even test him
Co op team fight with Iselda and Hornet is really good though
Ahh whoops wrong server
Ffs Sherma Prime still so hard. Can’t believe you let that shit slide Graig
Man, if I had my way HK be so much harder lol
I was against bench heals in P5
But they put them in smh

please have mercy
Actually the base game i would keep it's perfect difficulty
But the end game stuff, ramp it up
Just remove Godhome that's all I ask

Just remove AbsBad that's all I ask
🥊
Yeah? You and what army
Me
you dont count lemon
Aw damn, okay
Me, Simo and Benji vs the entire fanbase
I liked the Grimm Troupe DLC best, you don’t scare me Graig
Yeah Grimm > Godseekers
Hidden Dreams > Everything else
you can fight grim in godseekers so godseeker is still better
You need to fight Grimm beforehand though
I cant beat p5 so godhome shit
Can’t beat P4 
git gud
Have you tried performance enhancing drugs??
You think Lance Armstrong would just accept defeat like that???
like cocaine?
Simply a difference in skill
Damn
and what're you doing to make sure we get a similar boss fight experience in SS 
"I hope they're not expecting another Godhome" ~TC ||though tbh i interpreted this as godhome in specific, and not just boss rush/refight||
||that was also pre-(supposed)-scope increase||
no P5-like stuff please
You don't like boss rush?
as long as everyone is forced to have the same P5 experience, i'm ok with it 🕊️ ||no GPZ optional shenanigans||
It's alright, just as an optional thing rather than something mandatory for completion like P1-4 were
P5 was just hell through and through
I really liked sekiro's bosh rush though with healing in between fights n' things
What makes p1-4 optional but p5 mandatory?
(assuming you mean the opposite), p1-4 count for completion percents, p5 doesn't
achievement
So, not mandatory
Godseeker best dlc
"WE" will die on this hill
the admins and Graig, fighting TC on our behalf for a boss refight/rush mode 
Unpopular opinion:
P5 was the best
It was just the best
Fight me
p4 was my favourite. I'd've liked p5 more if GPZ was either mandatory or always not there
p4 with sisters of battle and NKG would've been perfection
I just wasn’t a huge fan of the boss rushes in general, some of the new bosses from it were really fun though
I do wish gpz was mandatory, but i beat it with gpz anyway so i still feel proud
I went out of my way to finish my steelsoul to 111% (who needs totf on steelsoul 🙃 ) so i could do p5 on a dead zote file 
i don't expect most players to be as bitter as i was though about it
it probably would've taken less time to just get good at zote (but it wasn't too too fun to practice for me, and i already had steel heart)
Yes Gods & Glory is a great DLC
Lifeblood 
Boss rush would still be cool, just please don’t make them stronger plz TC
You... You get achievements for beating p1-4 though
But they arent as cool
she doesnt. she binds her wounds with silk infused with soul
what if theres diagonal upward slashing 😳
I would enjoy that immensely
Like laces upslash attack?
nah. I dont think it would be very useful and probably overcomplicate the already more complicated combat
Okay then
Hronet slashes more 'around her' whereas the knight slashes more 'in front' if that makes sense? Since you already get ok top and bottom coverage with hornet's regular slash, you wouldn't benefit much from a diagonal one I don't think
Hornet can wall run & slide hop & bhop & animation cancel & doublejump & call a ti-
imagine a game where you weren't guaranteed to always land upright on your feet like those bicycling games where you do tricks and land them, and your main character can only slash forward and backward, but there are use cases for up/down/diagonal slashes, and part of combat is balancing your character/pulling off tricks in mid-air and landing upright afterwards so you're not vulnerable while getting back up
hornet qwop
Howonet
ヾ(•ω•`)
Late, but yeah like the others pointed out P1-4 were mandatory for completion, my last sentence just meant that P5 was hell through and through even if it was optional completion-wise 😅
Although there's still an achievement for it so
not all that optional, some might say 
Mandatory for all achievements and max % yeah
Not to finish the game or anything, but ye
cant wait for radiant lace
Just followed Simo on twitter, feelin' good
Silksong
just saying but WK is difficulty spike and a boring one just my IMO fight me
id rather see what they did to multi bosses like Oro/Mato and Mantis Lords
WK as in during the first playthrough?
yes
WK ive seen is often THE wall of a lot of players
but a lot of them also didnt like the way they played out
compared to other bosses like Mantises
WK isnt a dificulty spike its a skillcheck, have you learned that pogoing is essential yet? u gon learn today
midgame tutorial 
my roadblocks were elder hu and nkg,
thats weirdly it
wrong way to spell boring but ok
Honestly it’s hard to define anything in game as a difficulty spike; given the nature of metroidvanias (especially in the case of hk) you can always move away and come back. Plus; it works as a pretty decent skill check for THK/rad/the game onward. if wk is too hard, you really shouldn’t be eyeing up the palace.
2: WK is not the only or probably even the largest wall. Lost kin and most any dream boss are catastrophic for players who get the dreamnail early/pre wings.
3: WKs actual and only point of difficulty is what makes the boss unique in the first place. The attacks are simple, overall and individual hp isn’t really much, and the developers added that chandelier boss nerf.
But yes; WK being a required boss and being accessible relatively early makes their unique mechanic(s) a pretty sizeable obstacle
I’d just argue it’s not one worth labeling it problematic.
TLDR:
I am an elitist who cares not for the novice. Skill issue. Get good. I beat NKG first try and only use fury.
Aight thats fine
I still think their asynchronous nature is boring
ball go whrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
besides, considering their infamy and the direction Oro Mato went, i doubt theyll incorporate another WK Roll style boss anyway
and thank fuck for that

the thing about dream bosses is that its clear you arent meant to fight them, and its (seemingly) clear that progression isnt locked behind them
this is what keeps them from being a difficulty spike
Watcher knights is a boss who is protecting a dreamer
ya know, the main objective of the game?
to be fair they don't have to be asynchronous like they are
Why are the enemies in ss attacking? They arent infected by the radiance right?
good question
I think they’re ||in some kind of curse?||
- theyre a big juicy dead or alive bounty hornet
- shes encroaching territory (ie ants)
- theyre cursed which makes them hostile (as seen the demo where theyre compelled to work but they lash out on hornet)
- having some foreigner just show up in your crib fucking shit up is not exactly a welcome person
Imagine seeing a random bug enter your homeland and destroy everything, and people cheer for them
cultist most likely wants hornet (dunno if alive or dead) but if they do want her alive, ofc they cant really implement a "captured" sequence so them just being hostile is a good enough gamey reason
imagine instead of game overs/respawn to the last bench, they just sent you to prison everytime
Gulag in fucking silksong
Maybe TC are struggling how to put the mystery of the story together without contradicting themselves

A small theory, 3 factions. Cultist who need to capture hornet for unknown reasons, might be for the connection with the weavers and half pale being. Lace, who is also a spire who wants to prevent Hornet to reach the top of the citadel, and thinks the better way is get rid of her. And the towns, who are not involved in any way with both factions and want tranquility.
Also, narrative mess up is common in novels and storytelling. Know an author who is friend with GRR Martin, and told me the reason whi Winds of winter has not been published is because martin killed a character needed for the story to follow. Kinda funny crippling himself with his own trick
Not sure if this has been said, but it seems as though the weavers have been captured for their silk (seemingly used to control the Pharloom population) however Hornet may have been captured as her silk is also imbued with soul, allowing for perhaps a greater extent of seals or control across Pharloom by the cult/royalty
Or to make greater spells/seals
How do we know hornet can make silk?
Could be some sort of political prisoner.
Not necessarily
She’s not really a weaver
before it has any endings I needs to have a beginning first
oh ok
they said somewhere that she naturally produce the silk within her shell but im not gonna try to look where exactly they say that cause last time i tried it took me 40min and i coudnt find anything
(by "they" i mean team cherry or maybe even Nintendo in the e3 im not sure but i know that mossbag also mentions it in a video)
from what i remembered both silk and soul are closely interwined
so from what i understand she can manifest silk out of soul, and the soul comes from the fact that shes a child of the PK
hornet isn't void, TK is silk
Hmmm I thought it was like the silk was coated in soul or something which augments it
yeah thats what mossbag theorised too but as far as i know we havent been confirmed anything
considering Hornet get silk from hitting enemies, i would assume she make silk from soul
then again, there's the uh puppet theory
Maybe there’s isn’t just one TTacco
maybe we are all TTacco
the real ttaco was the friends we made along the way
Hi guys
hello
That is just the background sun
- you just noticed that?
- I found an that image on reddit and tried to make it a pumpkin for october
Yeah, maybe we are
Hornet makes sill, she travels using silk in all hollow knight
Are the bugs of Pharloon in a similar state to what the bugs of Hallownest are when they are infected?
theres this haunting business
Yeah it seems like they don’t have control of themselves (some)
Hornet is not void, she is silk
but I sure hope it's not like hallownest where everyone is hostile due to the haunting, would be less interesting if it's exactly the same again
Wait, so is it something like The Radiance controlling them?
games not out how should we know
I thought someone did, ok
graig probably does
HEY GRAIG
@ Graig | Community Leader
Well there was the E3 demo, didn't one of the hosts mention the creatures were under the control of an 'unknown spell' or something?
I guess they were under the control of ‘song’
That makes sense I think
That could be an interesting plot, a song controlling the creatures in Pharloom.
Hmmm....
?
ye
💀
Bruh moment
The pain of waiting
for ss, even though we need to give tc time to make it good, still the ambition to play it is beyond and above
i will be the first person to beat ss
i am tired of waiting for silksong personally, we're trying to mod hornet into hollow knight
but i know full well its such a hard task that by the time we are done silksong will aready be out
instead of playing silksong why not play something else
maybe its just a way to keep us busy lmao
Like what, give an example of a game
there are millions of other games in the market
Thats as good as i hope ss will be
play ender lillies
league of legends 😁
i mean playing other games does not mean you can't wait for ss too right ?
This looks interesting
but if we become like graig maybe ss will release quicker
i mean we are all technically waiting for silksong bro
but instead of begging for silksong to come, play other games
exactly!
no, but you can still find something else to occupy yourself while you wait
its gonna release eventually
wait who's begging ?
honestly im just talking bout ppl in general
Kakyoin toxicity is the only thing that the lol community has to offer
yes and i choose modding hollow knight
The voice acting for hk is going to be epic
RIP all chat, u will be missed
A very late hello from me, SilkBuds ™️
Silkbuds, hear like a spider! How are you dude
hey orange
heyo
Hey doing well thanks! bit of a late study hour for me
hello
Can relate, had exam yesterday on human lefts
im sad there was no abyss expansion in Hk
Reg your pfp becomes more chaotic by the day
Exams bittersweet 
I tried to make it a pumpkin
but it just looks like a basketball
Maybe add a face on it? so it looks more pumpkiny

we can make it
thats so epic
electric thread sounds awesome as an ability
believe me I tried
since spider silk is the strongest in the world it would make sense
that's why there's enemies with scissors
what, no outer wilds recommendation?
heretic 
a hat in time
baba is you, you'll be playing this for a while
sorry king i dont have outer wilds yet 
play outer wilds
baba is you good
baba is good and difficult
outer wilds is quite demanding
outer wilds is good if you have a week to spare so you dont forget anything important
the game remembers it for you
ill get ender lilies soon
or maybe just don't have a granny brain 
the ship log does a fairly good job of it, the ship log for the dlc does not
just cause i like the knight guy 
Baba is You and Outer Wilds are both excellent games
not sure I would recommend BiY to as many people, though, honestly
i mean
Outer wilds is good but my computer reallys stuggles with it so plays plays fairly slow and i have to have the quality of everything at the lowest setting
tbh I have no idea what to do in the dlc at this point in time
what about a hat in time tho 
||5 pebbles in rain world is amazing||
Lori do you need hints
true.... but not true at the same time
play return of the obra dinn, its underrated as all hell
I'm sure I'll figure something out
i only like the chill parts of 5p everywhere else can die
yes but mostly every moment of it is worth it
good luck
if you're ever stuck you have multiple OW players in this very chat 🥴 feel free to ask
definitely
its a shame i can never play it again 
but I hate when games are too short, you plan a day to do them and then you're finished early and have to do laundry or some shit
this is what happens if you dont have granny brain
oOoo
aight i removed a few more UI and also its a 2650px one so it should work fine without being too bad quality
sick
get better 
Yea I got recommended Obra Dinn and it's the only game that gave me the same sense of discovery as Outer Wilds despite being vastly different, great game
The dock key vertical area looks sick, look at the background 👀
Obra dinn was cool but my brain was way too small to fully complete it
whole area looks sick
This is really cool! 
Its really cool to see the inside and darker areas line up
the continuity in hk areas is so cool
I'll admit I definitely struggled at some points, in fact a lot of my progress was thanks to my partner as we played it together and she's way better and picking up on small details than I am 
So I guess we can pinpoint the "above" and "inside" the lava lake
||the shoes
||
Well it doesn't seem to have a singular level
I had to look that one up 
The demo does at least
There are three separate elevations of the lava level 
Some stuff took me ages to realise such as ||the numbered beds|| and some stuff I honestly just guessed/brute forced unfortunately aha
had to start writing stuff down
yeah it does seem like it, you can at least see the level where the lace fight is and then the lava spilling in the background underneath it
I didn't even realise that ||The surgeon was the same Henry Evans that gives you the watch and book until the Bargain Chapter right at the end|| because I'm dumb lmao
There might be an area below where it all collects though
I didnt either
this part here, probably extends longer
Yeah, looks like it would extend to the right
it does sorta look like a door
I can't really imagine it not being one tbh
My guess is either it's just there for the demo or it's a shortcut you can open from the other side
yea definitely a door i’d say
I wonder how long it'll take to get used to Hornet's attack range, it's massive
But ig with her increased size positioning's going to be something to relearn anyways
Maybe its range:player size ratio is similar and it just looks huge because Hornet is larger, though
Which will also take some getting used to 
I'm gonna be so bad at SS combat at first 
Watching the demo footage I'm gonna assume 6:14 was some sorta glitch
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You mean her heal cancelling?
No her pogoing and taking contact damage
Oh
That doesn't seem like it would be how it's supposed to work
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Why wouldn’t it be
I mean it could be it just seems silly to punish players for pogoing like that
ig if Hornet had hit MM higher up she might not have been hit but the same would be true if she had even a handful of frames of invincibility to get out of the hitbox
Or the idea could just be "don't do a forwards pogo against enemies unless you hit them directly on the top," I suppose
I will also point out that it looks like the edge grab Hornet has adds a lot to early game movement
boy oh boy, can't wait to learn the whole gameplay again and get destroy by most of the bosses
It does seem like pogoing shouldn't do that, it would be a little frustrating. Either that or we just have to be more careful
You can bounce backwards after a pogo so maybe that would just be what you have to do in that sort of scenario
yeah
Although in that clip idk if it would have helped
Well maybe
And there did seem to be like 2-3 frames of invincibility
sorry i was gone anyway
that was definitely a glitch
i think we can safely assume Deep docks is gonna be bigger than in the demo so since getting thought the bell room after the lace fight will probably be a new arena it would be kinda wierd that you can get the key to go pass deep docks so easily,my theory is that the key will be here but just a few rooms later after going thought the door that is where the key is at right now
Eh, I've kinda changed my stance a bit, I could see it being, while maybe not intentional, not a glitch in how the pogo works
Especially since the iframes are there and there would be ways to do that pogo without getting hit
If Katie had done the backwards pogo (which I assume isn't a special ability) then she probably wouldn't have been hit there
i always thought she got hit there because mm was moving upwards?
oh that pogo
That didn't help but even if she hadn't been I think Hornet would still have been inside the hitbox
Plus by the time the attack landed MM had stopped
yea i think its not a glitch maybe there are too little iFrames but since it was still a demo maybe there will be more in the actual game
Yeah, that's the kind of thing that would be quite subject to change
But now I can add fumbled pogos to the list of reasons I'll die in SS 
or mabye Hornet will be lauched higher and faster in the actual game becasue if you have to be lucky to land on the right place so oyu dont take dmg while pogo it will be kinda annoying
Well, as a consequence for poorly judged aim and/or moving in the wrong direction after a pogo, I'm not entirely sure taking contact damage is unreasonable
And sure it might be annoying but it would at least be fair
i mean if you dont really have time to move and take dmg right after the pogo
You can affect the direction in which Hornet bounces
like pogo works on small enemies but depending on the hitbox size you take dmg woudnt be so fair
But you do have a means of avoiding that
not pogoing?
Bouncing in the other direction
eh i guess
You can see it at like 0:45 in the trailer
aight ill check casue i dont know how much exactly you can affet the pogo
It would take some forethought to do but that seems like a reasonable thing to expect of players, especially after some time with the game. Maybe not for MM, but that isn't a super hard fight and there's a bench right there
pogo in SS seems way more interesting than in HK
Definitely
you can also cancel it to jump mid air
plus the fact its horizontal it will be way harder to master than the pogo of hollow knight
heal was already op now it's fast as fuck
Well, at least it isn't a weird angle, it's 45 degrees. Easier to eyeball than 30 or 60 or whatever
yeah but you have so much fewer iFrames
its for faster pace combat
The heal is much stronger, really. It's about equally efficient and nigh instantaneous
Hornet honestly looks fun to play
Absolutely
There is also a run ability so no more 'shift shift shift shift shift shift shift sh-'
And the dash also has its own modified attack that strings directly into a bounce
Maneuvering seems a lot easier yeah
The fact that you can sprint into an attack into a pogo back into a sprint is pretty exciting ngl
The versatility will make traversal a blast, even if it might not be super useful for heavy combat like challenge rooms and bosses
with that fast pace and all those versatile abilities i cant imagine how much fun will be the fight with those three bosses
and yes i've been looking for the word "versatile" for 5 min
Sometimes words just elude you
I will say that I'm not convinced that the scholarly trio is a set of enemies that compose a boss encounter, but they could be
They could be a recurring ambush that leads up to a boss fight with them
it
The idea of enemy cooperation is interesting though, most I can think of in HK would be the Oro and Mato and ML/SoB boss fights, where they kinda just attacked at the same time
for the thrid time this week ._.
TC says it somewhere but this time i know where
I was very surprised that the MLs actually worked together sometimes
Yeah but in a fairly simple manner
Yeah. Plus considering that they work together I assume it would be a more complex fight, which generally I would expect to take place later on in the game
i love those kind of fight where you gotta dodge and attack so quickly like the sisters of battle where you gotta fight 3 bosses at once too
but this time they wont be the same so it will be way more complex
Silksong fights are gonna be faster as well so 
Fast fights are the best fights
Well there's a difference between fast and hectic
Hectic can be annoying, especially in a game where you can't take a ton of hits
well it depends if you can control the situation or if you can get hit at anythime if your unlucky
The latter is more what I was referring to
like when those infection folly thingy spawn into you when doing a boss radiant ._.
btw i hope there will be some kind of godhome in SilkSong doing a boss rush there would be sick
Well, supposedly TC said not to expect another godhome but that could mean a lot of things
They said no godhome but that doesn’t mean no boss rush, don’t expect it though. Hopefully boss refights are a thing
Yeah, I'm kinda apathetic about a boss rush, admittedly, but a refight mechanic is something I'd really like to see
i mean its hard to make a canon boss rush, its aready pretty nice they managed to make one in Hollow knight
I mean even HK's boss rush didn't make sense at times but yeah
GPZ 
Very disappointed quirrel is not worshipped
(ik it says something about why GPZ is in godhome but thats doesnt make that much sense)
Yeah there are a lot of weird little things that don't totally make sense 
But overall it holds up unless you scrutinize it extensively
I'm sure TC could figure out a way to make a canon boss rush if they wanted to, though
but maybe someone will make a bossrush mod for SS
Modding that would be easy maybe probably not
Just make it spawn the next boss after one dies
just recode all the bosses 
Yup!
Some bosses may need specific arenas, like the golem
Daughter of Hallownest
Hmmmm
I'm not saying modding in a boss rush would be impossible, I just don't know enough about the extent of what's possible/doable without an absurd amount of work to be reasonably sure that it is
will probably add a mode like the GSM to Shaman Stone SikSog
They could, that could work.
But even then some people might not like it being excluded from the base mode
I wonder if the final fight of this game will also be sad like THK
Godmaster mode should have just been the main game but with optional bindings and other restrictions.
So just like a challenge run 
Yeah but like mandatory
That's not really comparable to a dedicated boss rush mode
Well yeah but the boss rush mode is already integrated into the game
So there’s not much point in it being it’s own thing
GSM isn’t really a dedicated boss rush tough, is it?
mabye they could just add godseeker but then that would mean its a sequel and neither of both godseeker endings killed godseeker witch would be wierd if godseeker survived with all the void
Boss rush and HoG
I mean regardless it’s a pretty boring mode
It makes it easier to access with all abilities. You could say the same about challenge runs, they can just be self-enforced so there's no point in building a mode for them
I really hope silk soul mode has more to offer
Sounds promising from what tc has said so far
dont forget about eternal ordeal
What's interesting about Silksoul?
most important part
Is it just steel soul but hornet?
I wonder if silksoul is part of what's taking so long. Since it's gonna be more unique as its own game mode than steel soul and just permadeath, it's like they're balancing 2 games almost
Silk Soul mode is supposedly a "unique and challenging experience" but we don't know what that means exactly
Team Cherry said that it’s gonna put more of a spin on the game then what steel soul did for hk
Kay
they speciafically said it will be more than just no respawn
And it’s gonna be more ambitious
Interesting
I wonder if you can do silksoul without the permadeath
Hopefully it won't have built in permadeath, since it would be annoying to be unable to access the other changes without it
and more than just a few tweaks (like steal soul jhin) (did i spell that right?)
ye permadeath only works if you already know the game
I wonder if there will be mechanic similar to thorns
And especially since silk soul is supposed to be meaningfully harder permadeath wouldn't work well as a mechanic
if they're making other changes to gameplay, it can't be permadeath anymore
it will be tho
We don't know that
I hope there’s normal mode, silksoul mode and then an optional permadeath slider for each
Or just self-enforce permadeath 
Delete the game
What if it gives enemies new ai.
Imagine if Bellflies shoot at you 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv6CRPqkpuU
just go to 11:00
A casual run-down by Ari and William on the details of Hollow Knight: Silksong
Hollow Knight: Silksong is the epic sequel to Hollow Knight, the award winning action-adventure of bugs and heroes. As the lethal hunter Hornet, journey to all-new lands, discover new powers, battle vast hordes of bugs and beasts and uncover ancient secrets tied to y...
You’ll know on December 21st
Is that the conspiracy date
Why the 21st again?
coping
Going a step further than steel soul mode doesn't necessarily mean they'll keep permadeath
Grover confirmed it wasn’t a dream and that the voices were real so
Yeah perma death would be kinda dumb if it changes gameplay
But wait, there’s a third mode called Steelsilk-
December 9th*
True (apex I’m looking at you)
December 9th is the date we'll know by
Well, Steel Soul arguably didn't because it didn't really change much
I love those random world seeds from terraria that shake up the gameplay a bunch
Made the game a horror game
I love the idea of Crimson and Corruption and wish that the Candyland (alternative to Hallowed) had existed
yeah thats why they wanna add a bit more like maybe just little easy to implement stuff that will change the gameplay enough for it to not feel too much like normal mode
But since they're making more significant changes permadeath doesn't quite make as much sense
I think it will probably just be what I said where you can select permadeath on top of each game mode
HK's steel soul changes were all due to the permadeath mechanic, if they're changing things up for SS that means deviating from that
and ig its not confirmed that it wil be permadeath but they saying they are gonna take HK steal soul and change it, considering steal soul is really 90% diffrent from normal mode by the fact its permadeath i kinda assume it will also be perma death
I think there will definitely still be a permadeath mode though
Even if it’s not silk soul
They could be iterating on Steel Soul in that it's a different, harder mode unlocked after beating the game, not in that it follows specific mechanics from its predecessor
Although steel soul wasn't really materially harder, as silk soul will presumably be
yeah but its only harder by being perma death, but maybe they just mean it will be harder?
my only thoughts are: silksoul will not be permadeath on its own. permadeath only makes sense if you're already familiar with the game, and if they're making the game feel new again, adding permadeath on top of that wouldn't feel good for the player. Whether or not there's permadeath at all in SS I don't think about too too much (am chill either way)
Silksong but the steel assassins are replaced with Jiji
Well tbh 4 is probably enough imo. One for an active game, one for a silk soul game, one for a hypothetical gsm analogue, one for storing a save
Slot 1 or 4
and the killing/not killing the nailsmith and killing/not killing zote achivement
Why would you need to keep those indefinitely
Like after doing those achievements you could safely delete it
i dont like throwing away stuff like save
Godseeker mode too but the maybe 3rd gamemode of SS will take its spot
I mean sure but you don't really need a ton of saves and having them could end up eating away at storage and stuff
and if there a godseeker mode in SS then we need more than 4 saves
Plus on Switch you can have multiple profiles, on PC you can back up your saves
Yo i deadass just got dumped, tc release ss so im not sad anymore 🥺🥺🥺
😭😭😭😭😭
If SS has more modes then I could totally see it having more save slots, but if it doesn't idk why they would add more, HK's number was fine for me. I did have to delete a save now and then (which I don't generally love doing) but I never missed them
And games that let saves build up ad infinitum (or have a high cap) are even worse to deal with
Nice talking to ya
Nice talking to u too tammo
cya 
And then there was silence
And Then There Were None
carceral
nobody typing in chat = 1st indicator SS is out
they wont release SS until #sk-discussion is silent for a whole 48 hours
gsm?
godseeker mode
when the release date is first announced everyone will probs be like "OMG FINALLY ITS COMING AAA" and then when its actually out people might bid goodbye until its done and then silence with the occasional chat about stuff in ss
why would there be a godseeker mode? Just curious
not sure, i honestly dont even know why godseeker mode exists in hk
you can unlock all of godhome fine on a normal save, why would anyone ever use a godseeker save?
Read the convo, it has context 
ive personally never found a use for it
Just as a way to have the boss rush mode ready at any moment
It's easier
a way to refight the bosses without haviing to replay the entire game
that already exists in HoG
Steel Soul makes way less sense than gsm 
oh youre talking about godseeker mode itself rather than godhome sorry my brain isnt working
ngl only use ive had for godseeker mode on the whole is fighting bosses like winged nosk before i unlocked them in the pantheon
but im tryna radiant a lotta bosses on a godseeker save so 
though i cant really be bothered to do bindings on other pantheons on it
nah steel soul is a good challenge mode, gsm has an odd balance in terms of accessibility, you have to finish p3 to unlock it, by which point most people are already at the end of the game and have unlocked most if not all upgrades, and if people can then do p4/p5 the steps required to get everything in a base game save from where they left off after p3 clearly arent an issue for the player in quesion
Steel Soul barely does anything
how is permadeath a small change
it adds a nice challenge and replayability
Permadeath can be self-enforced
it changes certain mechanics
Only Jinn and Tuk, which are just part of the permadeath change
egg = money
godseeker is literally just a maxed out save except youre locked in godhome and forced to use grimmchild, also cant mess with kingsoul
the charm stuff is minor but either way its still an annoying restriction that isnt an issue on normal saves
The merit of godhome is ultimately irrelevant anyways idk why people keep bringing it up
Godseeker mode, I meant
oh yeah, i agree
i couldnt care less for another gsm, another godhome is i hope a certainty at this point given how handy boss replayability is but gsm itself is useless
more like godhome exclusive boss
@opaque sigil
o&m, sheo, sly, pv, sob, nosket, absrad?
is anyone else thinking about how TC just did a patch for HK, and what that could mean for their currnet schedule? Vis-a-vis silksong?
Whether or not godseeker mode is useless is immaterial
the patches started nearly a year ago
what im saying is is that there hsnt been one in some time. and now there was just one
That's not true
maybe they do it when theres a gap of no coding for silksong or maybe they just want a break from coding silksong idk
There was one in August
not according to steam
heck, maybe there have been many on switch console. missed
They've been updating the beta all year, it's no surprise that they eventually updated the main branch
Let me dream you flippin flicky flicky willy donker!
im trying to keep my hype levels at a sustainable minimum until this marvel falls into our hands
this is my status now, this is too good lmao
And inferring significance without cause is a sustainable minimum?
wrong wording buckaroo. Wondering. Suspecting even just for the slightest chance for significance.
Small talk. Hoping to find common ground before me with fellow fans
you seem cool jacob

discord server romance blossoming
don’t be weird
yes king 
ok my b
sozzy wozzy
meet my by the crystal peak, oh kass, you wonderfull mass of love that i surely could not pass. Ill find you the prettiest crystal, like glass with the hum of brass, that surely not even myla's finds could surpass
Anyways, digression aside, I don't want to explain the entire conversation leading up to the statement white replied to but suffice it to say that in context it wasn't an assertion or suggestion that SS will have a godseeker mode analogue
It was only mentioned because we were talking about save slot counts and I was commenting that HK's save slot count was adequate and in order to compare more directly I mentioned a hypothetical godseeker mode analogue because HK had one
afawk SS only has two game modes, and I don't see a pressing reason to have more necessarily
the mods will kill us jacob
um 😳
can we make a gc? i wanna watch u 2 make love while i stare intently from the closet
okay let's uhh


talk about something else

hello pitta
how do you know kass is of the female gender


this is 2021. anyone can be a baby gurl. Now. Before i get muted

@lament drum goes by he/him but I'm sure he doesn't mind a bb girl from time to time
you dont know that

uh tools right??ß
bro...
ssssssssssssssss
does silksong have a grapple hook
bro...
bro?
i wish hornet would make me her bbg from time to time 😔
uh....
She's an insect
thats a spider man
its 2021 bro wtf
I don't know what a bbg is but I truly know what tools are
she's an arachnid
love is love.
i hate this place
wait nitro boosters are lost kin now?

Invertebrates are questionable love interests in my book
huh they just changed that
i accidentally started a revolution in #wkroll-discussion lol
what the fuck did you do
they're metal fans now???
killed wkroll
YOU KILLED HIM!
this is disgusting
how could you!
yes, justice for bv


wkroll is eternal
you monsters

bv suffered more tho, wk have 6 of them for support
you can't replace wkroll forever
damn german

wk shall rise again from the ashes
To preserve wkroll eternally...
bv will destroy wkroll
bv is a mere pebble in front of wk
Wkroll will sneak into the dreams of current nitro boosters and cause an infection
wtf is bv
wk are a bygone relic of the past, now is the era of bv
nitro boosters already infected by bv
through their sacrifice, #nitro-boosters will last eternal
broken vessel 
not infected, enlightened 
oh i just call it vv 
I cat spell
Vibin vessel
vessel vibe
WAIT NVM I DID SPELL IT RIGHT
🐱
WAIT NO

cat
cat kitty cat cat kitty cat cat
I hate this chat
I love you too
samue



wkroll will perish in the face of 
This is counterfeit
i have no money sorry
Can you go bowling with bv?
bv is a mere bug that will be squashed in the presence of wk
This is piracy
im sorry were broke
wk are old and decrepit
bv is temporary
the age of bv has arisen to destroy wkroll
is it
the age of bv shall last a mere moments WK is enternal and shall cut down the age of bv in seconds
yes grab them by the horns and flip them down the aisle
the strength of bv lies in #wkroll-discussion, we have ultimate power there
but the old one is miles better
the old has run its course, bv has come to replace that which is aged and weak
you probably like the new discord logo design
nah
Trollface
Immortal snail
Wojacks
all of these have died and been revived
minecraft
but you forget the most obvious example of all
Ur mom
the very platform we all are using right this moment killed and replaced skype
sometimes new is better, yes
We support murder
but not this time
@fiery coral @warm bone @proud vale
Apparently the names for the in game files in Outer Wilds

Huh 
Micolash 
Very cool
Gehrman

just saw it linked in the HK sub
Amygdala

That's the uuuuu wooooo guy!
need bloodborne
Coulda just left TTacco blissfully unaware smh
Now you should cry and feel bad because i posted something before you
ok but why 
Feel my superiority
feel my 240 per shot dps scrub
Somehow that only creates more questions
That’s a lot of bloodborne too
noface
❤️ bloodborne
oh wow, thats so weird
Bloodborne 
need bloodborne
"Like you did with the vacuous Rom... GrAnT uS eYeS.. gRaNt Us EEeEEyEYEyeYyysSSsSSSSssss"
u tellin' me to need something that isn't a necessity?
i need bloodborne
I want to play bloodborne
it's fantastic
except for the defiled dog
literally why did fromsoft go "yeah let's make this"
Is that bloodborne’s poison swamp?
Ah yes, Bloodborne.
I still haven't played ir after trying to beat Dark Souls Remastered 😅
I want to give Bloodborne a try, but I've heard it's harder.
there's a defiled chalice in the game where your health is cut in half. and one of the bosses in it is a boss that you've seen before and would normally 2 shot you, but now it one shots you
chalices are like mini extra-content dungeons
you basically end up spending the whole fight running away, booping the dog on the nose once, running away, booping once, occaisionally runninng in different directions for different moves... it takes forever
Thankfully chalice dungeons are optional
And even if you do them the Defiled ones are pretty far in
ye like the last few chalices are scaled the same way ng+'s would be, but I just kinda wanted to hit them all before beating the game my first playthrough 
Blasphemous has a NG+ mode that basically adds bindings
Never attempted it 😎
chalices are basically dungeons with bosses that you can add bindings too yeah. The defiled one just has a built in binding
try em! they're pretty fun to explore and you get great loot. no h8 though if you don't feel like going past the defiled chalice
So you get all your upgrades and use items/spells, but you can either:
+Turn your Hp refil flasks into mana refil flasks
+turn your healthbar into health pips. (Slow large hits are now weaker, rapid weak hits are now deadly)
+sword damage lowered but spell damaged increased+slow mana regen
Or all of the above.
There was a time I literally took to reddit trying to mooch off of someone with the last chalice already unlocked, so i could get the platinum without doing the defiled dog :p
if you co-op the last chalice boss on someone else's accnt, i think you still get the trophy
I meant Blasphemous' NG+ bindings, ha 😅
😅
I've done the chalice dungeons
got the Platinum
I would join in this bloodborne convo but I have never actually played the game
doesn't and never will have a ps4 gang
No
you can! i think the service is psNow or smthn
ok yeah new plan for everyone who hasn't played bloodborne: find a week that you're free, sign up for the 7-day psNow free trial, download bloodborne on your pc and crank it out
idk if psNow includes dlc though, and the bloodborne dlc is Necessary
Or I could just not 
nah i only like the souls games in theory
What? Lmfao
omg there's literally a gif of Lady Maria's visceral attack, it's that iconic
idk how to spoiler gifs though so won't post it, but you can find it by searching Lady Maria
Same way you spoiler images 
Weird
No dlc + it’s a subscription service
no dlc is a rip, but there's a free trial
but you can also remote play from a ps4 with dlc for free
30fps + streaming it to my computer
I’ll wait for it to come to pc, or emulation
However long that may take, I’m not in a rush
i'm like 90% sure it's never coming to pc
unless they remake it in 10 years like demon souls, but even that was an exclusive again for playstation
I will never buy a Sony product
Emulation then ig
And emulation's def gonna take quite a few years to even be playable, on yknow, absolute high end hardware
ps4 emulation is definitely not ready yet
I mean PS4 is coming on a ten year old console so it's just a matter of time
wait has it been 10 years already
Like 2013 or smth, so 8.5
I rounded up a tad but you get the point, it isn't a new console
Do you feel old yet?
not really
Emulation will come, only a matter of time
Emulation is the king of game preservation, that’s why it’s so good for the market
if you remove the "for the market" part, I'd agree 100% :p but with the market bit, I don't think I follow
It prevents companies from trying to sell us the same game over and over, makes it so they need to make new games
*cough Nintendo *cough
Until they yknow, dont care and push out remastered after remastered for 60$ anyway







