#sk-discussion
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I mean weve already seen bunches of dead bugs
yo Okabe, you on the wrong wordline my guy
time is perspective
I'm in Q2 of 2023
it is currently q4 :)
It’s either Q1 2022 or Q1 2023 for sureeeee
And unless they’ve run into MAJOR problems I don’t think it would go any past 2023
I don't believe in time anymore
That's what everyone says
Look; we are approaching the 3 years mark and it would be unusual to move into a 4th year of development. But still:
an hour passed without news of SS, I've moved from Q3 2023 to Q1 2025
This stuff also happens to have been said in 2019; not just 2020
10 more seconds have passed, and I'm now in Q1 of 2026 ||scratch that, 5 more seconds past, Q2||
honestly 2022 take it or leave it
most pessimistic i could do is late 2022-mid 2023
my copium side is telling me them not updating us mid 2021 is more of a moment of "Were already at this point of the game where we can safely release in the next 6+ months, lets just fucking finish it"
Ttacco
your mother
this pretty much 
i wonder if for fearless fox they're gonna announce it alongside a release date
or if they see this chat and go: "we like this, let's do it again" :p
yeah, basically just they don't really feel like they need to update us
no point in doing an update if they are almost finished with the game
honestly it doesnt even seem like copium, seems more likely then not
Time to create and hop on the train for hoping for no SS news because it implies the game is close to completion with a relatively-decent likelihood 
no, TC said nearing release there would be more news
or, well, they hope there would be more news
they did?
oh no
Lol do you remember at E3 Treehouse 2019 the presenter said Silksong was almost done? :'D
It could be done if Team Cherry wants it to be. But they wanna keep adding stuff is what I heard
the "adding stuff" comes from people who don't have knowledge about software development, they lack the imagination to think about anything else that's part of the process
just write it so that it works out of the gate
just spam keyboard
and if it bugs out then youre just a lazy dev shigermu momto once said delay good game rush bad game pls upvote on reddit
trying to 3d model lace 
having a slightly hard time thought basing it from how she looks
cell shading

woah
Add one or two functions and you're done, smh lazy devs /s
emission+freestyle=
bruh just add AddComponent<RemoveAllBugs>().SetActive(true) its that easy
Honesty question
If SilkSong releases and you dont have money to buy it.
Will you pirate it?
no
I don't think so
Also I doubt SS is expansive (compared to the average price, in general)
pirating an indie game too is just plain wrong (pirating in general anyway)
Unless its EA
fair i guess 
I'd spend $60 for Silksong
It will be worth it
Pirating something you want to support is weird though
Pirate, then pay


Question
Can you access the workshop and the mods section in steam if you pirated that game?
adofai is only like 4 bucks how could you 🤔
Is this A dance of fire and Ice (adofai)
lace in** 3D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!**
yes! 
where money
?
i kinda understand pirating a game to try it out to see if its good
for ppl that dont wanna waste money on a game they wont like
steam refunds are pretty lenient though
i don't
Not really. Its a hard 2 hours of gameplay if I remember. That is def not enough for sone games.
refunds?
watching a bit of a playthrough works just as well imo
unless the controls are really clunky or something and you only find out when you buy the game
wouldnt you be mad to buy a game you dont like at all
refund
read what i said
you don't just buy games blindly because the art for the title screen looked cool
if you do that's your problem
something just watching gameplay dont gives an idea
it happened to me in the past with some games
gameplay looked good and fun but i still ended up disliking the game
it is, but that should be enough for most games, maybe not for a select few but people usually dont pirate games with the honest intent of paying later for them
fair enough
although! i know someone who did that
they really did buy the game later
But that’s not what we are discussing. Pirating to check the game already implies you are prepared to buy it. It’s like a free trial.
im implying that checking the quality of a game is often used as an excuse for people who simply dont want to pay
the thing with checking if the game is good is if you don't like it you still got to play it for free
hence usually, there may be those who are honest about pirating to check quality but most people who pirate dont do so for legitimate reasons other than to get out of paying for games
yea i know
Maybe in conversation. But why the hell would they need an excuse? It’s not like they lose the ability to pirate without it.
And it’s not like they need to prove their intent to someone to be allowed to pirate.
in conversation is what i mean, people wont want to admit to pirating for such reasons so theyll often try to look better to others by claiming its just for testing purposes
and like i said the 2 hour refund limit is usually fine, so why pirate?
isnt enough for some ppl
We aren’t talking about those. People who use it as an excuse would pirate anyway. We are talking about people who legit pirate to check games out. And whether it’s a bad practice.
i dont think its a terrible practice, but i also dont think most people who claim to do so are honest about their reasoning
advocate for Demos in game
absolutely
nothing is more annoying than spending 40gbs worth of download only to see that the game is unoptimized as shit
atm i just jump the shark and just try to go under the refund hour but at times i sometimes FEEL like i wanna pirate just to test the waters for a day before buying it, but never push through due to the amount of effort
Judging people’s honesty is a different conversation:) So I suppose we agree that pirating to check is fine.
thats fair, in that case yes the act itself is fine
just dont be like that guy we had in the modding help way back then
kept asking for help for the mod api to work
do you guys think its fine to pirate if you cant buy the game at all
people tried to help him but eventually noticed if he had the game on steam
for example parents dont wanna let you buy the game
apparently he didnt, and people said to buy the game first then come back, said he doesnt want to atm, because he wants to use the money to buy gunplas (basically figurines of gundam robots), then kept egging to help
Yes. It’s a bit of a grey area, but I usually just pledge to myself to buy the game when I have better situation.
people kept telling him then dont bother them for help, eventually he figured it out on his own and said something like "NVM got it working"
got banned a few months later for another similar reason
deserved lol
I mean if you're gonna pirate the game the least you could do is not then whine about having pirated the game 
like bro, if you live in a 3rd world country whos access to video games is 5 times the price then yeah i guess i cant blame you, but come on
"i cant buy it, i need the money for my figurines instead, now can you please help me?"
buzz off
Sooooo, any silksong news?
nope
Not for the past several months
Silksong?
Whats that
An everdistant utopia
If you were crying over silksong, you probably should stop hyper-fixating on it so much
I anti-pirated hollow knight by buying more copies than one 😎😎😎
hey graig
TC get heaps of emails from people saying they pirated the game but cos it was so good they bought it after lol
Basically pirating only hurts you if your product is shit
LMFAO, I did that with dont starve
No. Silksong is life.
That's why the music and movie industry hate it lmao
Or just very expensive
or if the product isn’t sold any more
I don’t care how good the game is, I ain’t paying 60€
Either wait for a sale, or pirate
I would pay 100 aud for silksong
Mmmmm. I simply can’t afford it lol:)
Dont tell them tho pls graig 😳
I feel there is some point when the excuse “there is nothing to update, they are just working on silksong” doesn’t seem convincing anymore. I really would like something to know about it.
Apart from stupid Nintendo leaks
Errr
“We have finished a good chunk of the game” is more what I’m looking for
Not specifics
Some days I doubt Team Cherry exists anymore
I told u i seen ari at coles once hes real 😳
Unless you hallucinated due to immense desire for silksong.
If you have that mindset I tgink it's best for you to just try and forget avout silksong for now
?
Well I mean, you seem like you can't deal with the wait anymore so it's best to distract yourself with something else for now
Lol
What
Although, I do wonder how many years of silence have to pass that people would abandon hope?
Dennis how about u spend ur time doing p5 hitless bro
that’s not really a statement of anything. It just says they’ve completed more of the game, which is already the base assumption
Sharp shadow only
Key word is assumption
Assumptions need to be confirmed or disproven
More wait = better game bro

What if I already did?
they literally say they are working on the game
if you work on something, more stuff gets done
Do it sharp shadow only
Show me?
TC is reminding me of Steam TF2's team rn but then again both teams are like 3 people
I mean by default unless they just aren't working on the game (which has been stated to be false many times) then the assumption would be that they're making progress 


There ya go
Yay
graig is lying
TC is wasting 2 days per week not working on MY game???
Now watch me shift my expectations and ask for a demo:)
But the whole "unless they show that they're working they aren't working" mindset is nonsensical
asking for a demo takes time out of making the finished product
No, actually I’d take “tell they are working”
if they were gonna give a demo, they would’ve given the e3 one
Which you provided
Whenever someone says "I just want them to say that they're alive" my answer is always "Do you think they've stopped working?"
Fine. the whole "unless they tell they are working they aren't working" mindset is nonsensical
They can work without constantly having to tell their audience that they are doing so
Which leth has already stated probably won't happen
Depends on how it gets cancelled lol
If all of TC dies in a horrible freak accident it'll be safe to assume it's cancelled 
?
There are numerous life circumstances where public announcements are the least of your concerns.
Yeah but they'd still announce it like maybe a month later
But you know, less dramatically, a hiatus is not something that is announced necessarily.
But delving into crazy hypotheticals isn't the best way to defend your stance
Do you have that little trust in team cherry?
wow who's that
Me
oh
And if they do take a break from development for some reason (they are human beings with families and lives) then they don't need to announce it
Hmmmm. Yes and no? They have trust credit obviously from Hollow Knight. But do you remember Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk? One is amazing, the other is a disappointment.
Jack vine
The reasons cyberpunk flopped don't apply to TC, that isn't a reasonable equivocation
It's never good to compare two different things that have one small similarity
I’m not sure equivocation is the right word here. I didn’t equivocate.
Equivalence, mb
echolocation
It was false equivalence
Either way it doesn't make sense to assert possible parallels
they are way too different to make a fair comparison
It wasn’t though. Not in the sense I meant it. Yes, specific reasons might be different. But it is a precedent for people’s trust being broken, regardless of hype and reputation. What I’m saying is that asking me whether I trust team cherry is irrelevant. I’d like some proofs regardless of trust.
Why 💀 they dont owe u anything
the only things that they promised were that they were working on it and that it was coming
TC has no obligation nor reason to accommodate the audience in this regard, it's incoherent
And let's be honest, even if they did say something like that, you'd still say that they need to give us more
The only way to prove progress beyond doubt is by releasing dev builds constantly
General bitching to feel alive
Footage and screenshots could always be fabricated, after all.
They could. But you kinda have to ask for motive then. Just saying something can be done, doesn’t mean it is.
someone did see Ari in the streets just a month ago
The only reason people ask for news is because there's a small tiny unlikely chance that it will be the release date
You can obviously find specific reasons for Cyberpunk flopping. But only retroactively. Before it came out everyone said same things as here, no?
And the fact that there exists some possibility of TC not currently being working on SS does not mean it merits regard
and pretty much said "were still working on it, game scope has been larger so its taking longer, covid didnt affect us at. all. because were so small restrictions didnt even apply to us"
Yes, TC could have been struck by lightning at the same time an hour ago and we probably wouldn't know but does that really mean they need to assure us constantly that that (or something similar) did not happen
I mean I don’t really care about proof or whatever. You can want that, sure.
But like, the only “proof” they could give are basic statements. Which can change as goal posts move, or delays happen, or they could outright lie.
which we technically already knew
Look, If you're that concerned, just send them an email venting about it, I'm sure they loooove to hear your complaints
There is always going to be some doubt, that's just unavoidable
Unless you're sitting there in the TC office watching them work you're just gonna have to trust them a bit
Really, the only "proof" people want us just the game releasing
Or just find something else to do
"Honestly they just need to release one image and the community will be satisfied for months"
Me, watching as Edge reveal a fuckton of shit, immediately turns back to release date talk after 4 days:
you dont really have an option. youre entitled to no news.sit and wait, or go touch grass
no weeb
People: Why won't TC release a blogpost
Edge: literally has more information than all the bloposts combined
People: So where's the blogpost????
I hollow knight fans in a nutshell
Says the dude with the earth chan pfp
maybe the real silksong was the friends we made along the way
Come on, we all know it didn't take 4 days 
It started popping back up pretty much immediately. idt it really stopped, just got drowned out a bit
where game 
then starts using it to speculate that the game is finished and itll release soon
then that turns into another shitshow about how they wish TC would just give a timeframe for the release date
also some people that saw the magazine were asking if they released anything about a release date in it
Yes, because that would be a sensible place to put a date
I don't get why it's so important to know the date, like, this doesn't mean the game will be finished faster if they gave an estimated range of date for the release

For me "it's done when it's done" is probably the most logical and reasonable thing 
Shame #sk-discussion scorns logic and reason, often explicitly 
and dont even touch the reddit posts 
Well I can understand the speculations and stuff, I've done some myself.. but at some point I just came with the conclusion that it wasn't worth it. Also I started a dev class a month ago and even if I'm still a beginner, I can imagine the amount of work needed for this kind of project. From what I've seen, people seems to not fully realize how messy and complicated a project like that could turns out
Alo
Yeah, that's probably a part of it. It's often explicitly a component of why people think more blogposts is a wholly reasonable expectation
eg "it doesn't take that long to write a few paragraphs, maybe an hour or two" or something similar when in reality it disrupts about a week of dev time
I wouldnt mind if we got ss 1 week late if it means we get some news
I mean im not gonna go harass anyone cuz no news cuz thats never okay to do but its been quite a while
It would be pretty good if we got anything
agree
But like, a week adds up
Week here, week there, soon you're looking at months
and years
Plus TC doesn't necessarily want to lose that week
tldr: shuttup and wait 

I mean, yeah, exactly.
imo TC's probably as eager if not moreso than we are for release, needless delays might not be something they want to suffer
its actually taking forever bcGraigs supposed to be hand delivering physical copies
Wait if i preorder physical copy ill meet graig
I can pay Graig with french cheese and wine
I’d question your premise. How exactly some short news disrupts a whole week?
A day maybe.
It disrupts the flow of development, and they have to be exceedingly careful with screenshots and what they say, plus find fanart, etc
Again. That’s sounds pretty baseless. How exactly does it disrupt the “flow”?
I'm not lurking, I'm actively here
no I dont have a problem no I dont have a problem no I dont have a problem no I dont have a problem no I dont have a problem no I dont have a problem no I dont have a problem no I dont have a problem no I dont have a problem no I dont have a problem
new silksong leek???????
huntress gonna eat flea soup
Poggers
let's goo
flea coat flashbacks 
why make blogpost if you can make game?
why make a game when you can bully graig
why bully graig when you can bully graig
why
true
Why bully Graig when you can bully me
Dont diss daddy tammo
what

tammo how much of ollow knight did u finish
Por que no los dos?
All of it except the flower quest and P5 because those seem like pains to do
Fake fan 
lmfao fair enough
wait a second you never did the fragile flower thing
No
isn't that a %
u know what the real pain is? radiant vengefly i literally cannot do it i dont have the patience
Did you do pop
I think so
pobres
incredible
its 1% for mask shard
I mean I've never claimed to have done 112% 
I dont know how i feel about the New Tool system
i assumed you did
Tool talk?!
I did 112% yesterday ☺️ the flower quest is very easy tbh
I'm optimistic about it, charms (and customization in general) were one of HK's weaker points imo
CHARMS ARE COOL
I disagree
They could be cooler
Probably but that doesn't mean I want to do it 
I'm not the type of guy who plays games to get 100% completion, I just do what I want to do
Good on you Tammo
unbreakble STRENGTHHHH!!!
Charms weren't bad, of course, just compared to the other aspects of HK it felt kind of dry
bruh i thought the charms are sexy as
Are the tools gonna be infinite?
No have you seen the dempo
Yellow and blue tools, probably, red tools will have finite uses between benches
Or do you need to keep buying them
Is broken AF and ruins just became the meta. I'm hoping they balance tols enogh that there won't be a set on tools / crest that is just op and using anything else is pointless
You can repair them at benches
Ohh then I'm gonna like them
You do need shell shards but they're plentiful and have no other purpose afawk
If we had to keep buying/getting them I would just not use any
Like health potions in any game with health potions
You don't need to run back to merchants or anything, yeah, that would suck 
I think the bind thing is the best thing added
SAME
Although tbh I'm not thrilled about the limited ammo ordeal but I'm optimistic that it'll work out
I'm not a fan of the crafting shards thing either
Bind is certainly a good way to change the flow of SS combat from the very beginning
They have to balance it somehow
so charms arent coming back?
Tools will fill a similar role and then some
but there anret gonna be 44 tools
Probably more
Yellow and Blue tools will likely fill the role of charms, with red tools becoming attacks and abilities
And crests themselves will have unique properties
Plus crests also seem to have passive properties. Or enhance the tools properties. The variation in SS is going to be awesome
There will probably still be a meta but with an increased range of options there will probably be more viable ones
I wonder if we will see ghost in the game
We won't
How
wym
Will there be like build paths
Like evidence
Not in that you have to unlock things in order in, like, a progression tree or something, but there will probably be build philosophies
Probably not a prequel, and even if it is that would still be contradictory to TC's messaging about SS being an independent game
Oh ok
I could see a reference to it in passing or something, though
Something vague and small so that fans of HK recognize it but it wouldn't necessarily ostracize those new to the series
That can be tough to balance but even something as unassuming as "I am without my usual tools" (from forge daughter convo) can help leverage the first game to contextualize the second without necessitating it for understanding
Like, to an old player that's a clear reference to the spikeballs Hornet had in KE, but to a new player it could just mean "weapon." There isn't really a feeling of missing something, necessarily
For example: “I’m missing my half sibling made of void” would not be a good way to reference TK
"i sure do hate the fact that my half-sibling that's the child of two higher beings that was taken over by some spicy n't sauce that murdered the whole population of hallownest's infected bugs and became pretty much a god isn't here right now"

this charm makes you shoot out spores when you heal (woah)
this charm summons small baby flukes at the cost of soul (wow)
this charm has a chance to not damage you the more you get hurt (what???)
this charm straight up increases your fucking DPS that to the point that you can destroy a lot of the bosses with it :)))))))))
do we know if ss is going to be set b4 or after HK?
Not with certainty but probably after
this means there will be more options for shitpost builds
Exactly 
Much more room to mess around, and presumably more replay value since you can go through multiple times with different general setups
Do you think there'll be more unique setup-based NPC interactions?
Similar to Defender's Crest
I could see that, especially since crests are articles of clothing, so they would probably be pretty visible to npcs
It would make sense for some to comment on them
And some tools are modeled after NPC weapons so they might have something to say
the defenders crest interactions are due to the knight smelling so bad that everyone notices
Yeah ik
passive tools would have to have similarly noticeable effects for tools to trigger dialogue
I mean even VH had a good amount of npc dialogue
That's what I meant, if hornet carrying a throwing knife tool atm gets someone to comment on her walking through town fully armed or sth
For example
I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was at least a similar amount of NPC acknowledgement of that sort of thing
Yeah but it feels different from DCrest, it feels more like Kingsbrand dialogue cuz its mandatory at some point
Fair
Whats ss?
Silksong, the sequel (maybe chronologically) to Hollow Knight
Oh
Please, call it a spiritual successor. There's no clear connection between the world of Silksong to the world of Hollow Knight.
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“And then there are also these tasks that characters – or Hornet herself – will lay out for the player.” “They vary across the world,” Gibson says, “and some of them are related to helping the residents in seeing changes and evolution to the spaces that you inhabit.” Pellen adds: “There’s more of that stuff happening this time – it’s quite a complex world.”
It does seem like pharloom npc interactions will be a bit more nuanced, along with, well, most everything
I'm so hyped for signs that don't break in one hit
What if she’s carrying a body carved into a weapon thanks to 
Well, Hornet, Weavers, hallownest seal on the inventory screen in the demo, FD conversation, that sorta thing, but yeah, the plot connections will probably not be extensive

Did you not notice my
at the end there
It was a joke, of course they're in the same world
Well there's not really a clear connection between settings, beyond the few characters
Yeah but you can't get clearer than that
since it's not a direct sequel we should call it a squeakwell
Its totally a direct sequel timewise
lori I will hunt you to the ends of the earth if you say that again 
Hornet being the protag of SS is a very clear and direct connection
lori it'll be funny if you say that again, do it 
Yeah but it doesn't establish a robust connection between the history of Pharloom and Hallownest
Oh yeah I didn't mean the lore
Oh, I did. mb
Just the world itself
Tammo and not realizing jokes. Name a more iconic duo
I'm tired ok
hornet and void
*hornet is void
You asked, white
TK and Silk
TC and chaotic schedule
Hornet you need to go to Bonebottom Hornet
Hornet, Bonebottom is under attack
Please help us
Ill mark it on your map
I wonder how many towns there will be, Have we seen 3 or 4 thus far?
I think skirmishes with NPCs if you anger them would be cool
Plus the caravan which was described as a "roaming dirtmouth" or something along those lines
not for hornet's character, don't forget how fast you can move with her
There's still a lot there even if Hornet can move through it faster
Hornet travelling at Mach 1
float like a bug, sting like a hornet
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Please label fakes
@ mods
wdym, thats literally hornet
I’d imagine they mostly mean it’s a roaming pit stop / rest stop
Yeah, maybe a vendor or two
I was not aware they released the demo to the public
They didnt

wait
I don't think DDX mistook that image for being from the demo
its a meme image, bad time to come in XD
sorry just came in the channel and saw that 
💀
**Papapapap
Tatata..
Tataatat
🥁
Milksong!!
**
refreshing 
Guys
Wanna see a movie?
dont send a pirated movie
Look
you weren't about to do that right

💀
Is that a thing that happens 
yes
Damn
it's ok to send a movie that's public domain though
Well yeah, ofc
what?
I have no idea
?
In Hollow Knight, the knight uses Milk to cast various thinks and is around The Milk
And in Silk Song
Its not actually Silk..
Its Milk in long thread form
are you ok

So it's milk grass
Milksong confirmed??
milk? 
Wait, Its all milk?
Always has been 
milk doesnt give me soul irl
or whats part of it
Cus you dont have a milk bar
I believe there will be at least an easter egg to milk in SS
how where buy
Craigslist
💳 💥 💳 💥 💳 💥
maybe dont send rick roll links that look like viruses in our current age of discord scams 
seriously though
ok
But now would not be a good climate to use it 
At this point I doubt mods think twice before banning for fake nitro links
just blacklist the words they say?
Btw my friend was giving away legit nitros and everyone hesitated to click it lol
Like what, "nitro," "free," etc?
Yeah sure
ah
And I imagine new ones pop up
I got that nitro
there are many many scam links you never see because they are blacklisted
what is their goal though?
so however bad you think it is - it's worse 
Probably an exponentially increasing number of them too
And some you never see because we're so quick 😎
Steal info, hijack account to post more links, maybe download viruses to your computer, probably all sorts of nasty stuff
hm probably
tell your friend to dm me Well people are understandably cautious about this stuff nowadays 
They fricking gave mostly active ppl on the server
(I was joking btw)
they are becoming too smart that looks almost convincing
because it might be real
That one was real, idt you can fake that discord thing
what
The special embed
im 
I don't think that can be faked
so you could say its like a string milk
string m**ilk **
s-ilk
silk
A new goal
It will be like
Dlscord
Discórd
Links
silksong when
In your dreams
Later
No, not that, the little window that says "you received a gift"
they did
they did?
like 2 years ago
that’s e3 bro
It's a demo 
still demo
and that’s 2 years ago
Make a time machine and go back to past to play the demo
Why would tc make another demo
Or... Just go to the future..
easy as 1 2 3
how much u think silksong is gonna cost
$15
I’m guessing $25 but I would pay $50 easily
Game wouldn't have sold well if they did
Yeah,
Considering it was their first game
lmao I think $15 was smart, more accessible more people buy n stuff
but they could get away with $30 for silksong
15 was smart, and it worked amazingly for them
unfortunately indies can’t go for more than $40 or they sell poorly
and getting an indie game at an $40 price tag can still be difficult to get sales with
Indies also don't need to be that expensive to turn a profit, with a lower cost of production
true
Plus TC has been designing SS with new players in mind so they aren't exclusively aiming for their previous audience, so $15 still seems like a better choice imo
But I'm not an expert or anything 
Plus they have talked about being sensitive to the fact that in some places even $15 is a lot of money
So I don't really see that substantial an increase
It’s a highly anticipated game, I think they could get away with charging 20 to 25 USD and no one would complain too much
i will literally pay 200 for silksong
It's not about what they could get away with
Silksong could be much bigger than Hollow Knight we don’t know that bruv, you’re comparing prices with the previous game
They have the resources to make the game as big as they want now
Doesn't mean they'll make the price as big as they want too
If price:content ratio was a priority over accessibility and appeal then HK's $15 price tag is incoherent
Even with more reputation some of their reasoning behind the pricing holds
900 IQ strat: release game at a 50% launch discount at 15$ then 2 weeks later make it 30$ so OG fans get it at the HK price and TC gets more money from a bigger game
You said it yourself, first game means no reputation to back up higher prices
Not so much now
Even with more reputation some of their reasoning behind the pricing holds
Accessibility and appeal to a wider audience than established HK fans are still a concern
Plus even at $15 SS would still be a significant financial success. HK was, and that may well end up selling fewer copies than SS will
And again, I'm not saying they couldn't go higher, I just don't expect them to
Very different
Does it sound like they plan on increasing the prices of their games significantly?
Beyond that however, raising the price of a game by say, 30% and losing 50% of a customer base is a net loss in profit
Yes, but idk if that would really necessarily translate into that much loss, especially with the game following up on HK's success
It’s in TCs best interests as an internationally known Ip as well as an indie game to not raise the price significantly or even at all for this reason
Yeah, I agree in principle
But I do think that that the downsides would be more pronounced in the case of a game that has relatively little fanfare
how much is gonna ss cost?
15-25usd
theyre literally all talking about that right now
cool
what's up with that question today
I'm leaning more towards $15 
it's so mind-bending to me that people are sticklers for that subject
they wouldnt lose 50% sales though, they def could make a higher profit above $15 but if they are prioritising accessibility thats cool too
DDX's numbers were arbitrary
^
i would literally pay $20398812382 for silksong
The point was that increasing price can decrease profit
And is also guaranteed to botch accessibility
ah mb
Both of which are things TC will consider when setting a price tag.
Accessibility is explicitly a priority
Personaly i dont care about the price they deserve it
I do not think you understand this number
I do not think they used the word "literally" literally 
exagerating is funni
he does, hes just bezos
I can't read the numbers but i will pay more
$20,398,812,382 is half of the planets GDP
i dont think so
its 20 bil though
Granted it’s circulated money;
GDP isn't money
that's quite a bit of money
A spoonful
they call me jeff bezos 2
yeee
where are you getting the money from
money laundering
i married bezos and divorced him
what wash cycle do you use?
I do it by a case by case basis
to figure the optimal settings out, google "how to launder money"
why am i getting messages from the fbi?
they're jealous, ignore them
wash your money guys
i actually run a geo laundering scheme with the help of millibelle
same. I put my coins in her, put her in a hot spring, then knock her around a bit
reminds me of experiments you would do as a kid to make your pennies all squeaky clean
this my mental state
Hornet or the golem 
both
They want to destroy things and are deeply afraid of the situation they’re in but ready to confront it
Me fishing for my keys after putting the paper towel in my pocket
Yknow when you drop the not garbage in the garbage and the garbage in the not garbage
Yeah
I got a dream that silksong came out in 6 minutes and never before have i been so disappointed to wake up
6 months**
That’s terribly unfortunate. I’ve only had one silksong dream and in it hornet was fighting the hamburgler
It was a Nintendo direct that said "silksong release date revealed! Silksong will arrive in 6 minutes!"
Disappointed as hell when i woke up
Understandably so
Same
I dreamt that Ari, William, Jack, and Chris all randomly showed up at my house for a dinner party, and Jack was exposed to actually be Jack Larkin, Chris Larkin's son
atleast you remembered Jack, right?
i mean, he was the main plot-piece ye
may 23rd
what's gonna happen on that day
:quirrelpeace:
you shall know when the day comes
time will tell what shall occur on that day
what if i forget
then all is lost
can you remind me?
:quirrelpeace:
Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. 
thats a new one
#hk-meme
Joe will probably want to collect that
They probably got it from Johnny 
the heart is so bright and smooth in that one
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/901246997422546944/there_is_no_news.gif
I'm still partial to the classics. Sometimes less is more
no news is good news
(here's hoping to the yearly dec update)
We'll get another kickstarter comment
A backer here might be feeling the urge to ask lol
December 21st 
Yeah, that doesn't work on us anymore
Grover was the one in my dream???
Yes
Just finished Inscryption and it's making me think about how quickly I will finish silksong
I think you’ll finish it in at least 3
I'd say it'll take about 5
I sometimes binge games for like 7 hours in basically one sitting
although silksong will probably be pretty long
Reminds me of ye ol xbox 360 terraria/minecraft days
We shall see
It took me like 35 hours with boss guides and walkthroughs to get to the rad ending
I'm hoping but also not hoping that the ss bosses will take me a lot more time to defeat so I can play the game more
You dont know pain till you've seen someone base nail no upgrade take down nkg
obviously wasnt me who did it, but still, sitting through that experience was a true trial
it wasn't a dream.
still the best one
#hk-discussion but what the fuck
oops
You dare speak blashpemy with the intent of poisoning the mind and will to turn us away from the messiah Grover "Gruzzer Milk" Soup? How dare you have the audacity to speak such wicked words! For shame! You shall surely boil in the eternal pots of Gruzzer Milk for these crimes against God himself.
boiled milk?
is that not normal
you blasphemers shall be frozen into gruzzer ice cream for this
no not at all
oh
One message removed from a suspended account.


Moss grotto isn’t a town
Starting town 
graig what
graig's so good at the game he's done bonebottom skip on every test run without realizing it
Graig accidentally builds the entire moss grotto town without ever leaving it
wait what
Why does your nick read like the twitter bio of a middle aged politician
Yeah
True
he's listing people that have played silksong
I think it took me around 28 hours with guides to get rad ending as well
i didnt use any boss guides though just guides on where to go, also I had shade cloak before fighting watcher knights which made them alot easier
you start in the moss grotto and then reach bonebottom hence starting “town” not starting “area”
Graig why didn't you attend my dream dinner with TC (even Jack and Chris were there)
dunnoh it feels like you'd have to handcraft some pretty darn good spaghetti to even apply for an audition to apply for dinner with Graig
Lmao it took me like 90
Absolute Gamer right here 
it's not a race
also the quicker you finish the less value for your money
suck on dis
...cussion
of course. What did I say?

tell that to my 45 speedruns
i will absorb the speedruns
well what if it were 45 long runs? hmmm?
on a non-shitpost note, I don't think playtime is a good metric for qualifying an experience
time spent in a metroidvania wandering around and hitting dead-ends is not as valuable as time spent fighting bosses and exploring new areas
that's why HK is good, it drastically reduces the amount of time you fuck around without knowing where to go
playtime is my rule of thumb for minimum value for money. A game has to at least get me through as many hours as it cost bucks
compared to something like super metroid or circle of hte moon
otherwise I'm getting scammed
binding of isaac confirmed biggest ripoff of all time
idk if this applies to all games though, my fav game is inside and that was like 6-7 hours for $20
you should sue them
FELLAS THIS HAS COMING FOR A LONG TIME AND I PICKED THIS CHANNEL FOR THIS ONE PURPOSE TO MAKE SOMETHING FUNNY THAT WILL RIVAL HOLLLOW KNIGHT MEMES SUBREDDIT AND WILL PLACE US SUPREME LEADERS OF THE HK MEMES LORDS AND ALL THAT GIT GUD SHIT can we make a original meme for hk memes because those people don`t know whats funny anymore after so many "me when BEANS"
silknever
ask #hk-general idk
i`m not typing that mess back
Copy & Paste
Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V
ctrl-c,ctrl-v,alt-f4
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
That's the look I'm going for lmao
You gotta add in "Community Leader" or smthn
Holy shit yes
idk if that would fit
graig do you really have 3 kids
he only has 2, TC members are only allowed a number of kids equal to the games they've worked on
Ahhh it's perfect
oh
My name is red now?
I am Team Cherry?????
What if I've worked on more than Two TC games?? 
Return to Booty Grotto
they should make a name for that rule....two child policy?
we all want this and you know it graig
then does that me does that mean we are getting HOLLOW KNIGHT 3

Graig leads this community like no other
hollow knight π
Hollow Knight Ex plus Alpha 2.5 -final edition-
Hollow knight alyx
HOLLOW KNIGHT AUTO IIV SAND ANDRAS
final remix
Hollow Fantasy XII
VR hollow Knight. You play a vessel than gets yeeted into the void by the PK
And that's the whole game
60 dollars
VR doodle jump but with a hollow knight skin

The fanart you posted a few weeks ago says otherwise
And then the next TC game you play as lace and her rival is again a half sibling and so forth
Hollow hearts: chain of siblings
then the lacenet ship would be much more CONTROVIESAL
It's siblings all the way down
And then Hornet gets stuck in a washing machine
And sometimes gotta help her get out
if you halve the siblings each game we get less sibling for our money 
The washer knights, it all comes full circle
Hornet and 6 watcher Knight standing behind her
Excuse me, it’s washer Knights

Sorry dad
Oh shit
EVERYONE RUN
Simo can you ban these guys all talking lewd stuff
Yeah anytime man
yeah but if they had used the right washer the chandelier wouldn't have fallen down
Will work on it now
best admin 👀 👍
wait i said nothing lewd, i'm watching my sis play animal crossing
One of these days some new person will show up while simo is “banning” people and think he’s being serious
oh god i don`t want to get ban this sever is amazing i don't want spend my time on the paper plane discord]
[
yes yes I see
Tell me more
and if you ask the paperplane discord sever is a thats about transformers and just do other stupid mess
then don't fold under pressure

it`s funny and things get stupid for a while until somebody post about go bots
i won`t because silksong news and this group is good
also the mods on this sever are actual cool
I feel bad for anyone taking anything said in this channel as serious
what
dude why are you taking pity on people, that bothers me, r u fr?
wait did someone say "news"? https://cdn.frankerfacez.com/emoticon/240443/1
everything here is super cereal
I'm ngl, I thought you were talking ab my dumbass comment in #hk-discussion
Yeah I don't actually feel bad
oh I was actually getting worried
But as community leader I have to pretend to
But in reality it's funny
Big respec
also the mods on that sever don`t do anything but for this sever they actual interact with you
oh no
you are always loved graig
Graig is best boi
it was a bad pun lol
why spinning fast food?
We do need this game tho, the crowd is antsy
why not?

Did someone say antsy?
fair
because the have good sources of POTASSUIM🍌
antsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsantsants
i was about to suggest someone play deltarune and then this happened
I did a bad, oops
are you alright
suck
dude don't push your luck
What would Pharloom's sports team be called?
thats what happens when your deprived of silksong news
wow joker anti-fun
LACERS BELLS
cringe
yeah
far loomers
kek
mhm
this one of the rare seniro where a mod is talking with people and making a lot of good friends
Is this serious???
someones getting amogused
You decide
No
french 
joker can you like
Perhaps the community leader can handle this 
and subscribe
Couldn't Dr Manhattan have just wiped his memory of the truth lol didn't need to obliterate him
and ring the bell
It’s about sending a message
and don't forget to share the video
trolling purposes basically
Doctor Manhattan doesn't give a shit though
My stats say only 15% of you are subscribed
I don't want to get a real job so can you guys PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE subscribe
Will silksong be like what super Mario 2 was to super mario bros? 
your job has play in the name
||no shade though, just for the sake of the gag||
Hey man my job is actually really hard. Some days I even have to go into TC office and hang out with my friends
Graig | Professional Player
I assume you also partake in the croissants?
The grind is real
croissants filled with spaghetti 
You guys have bought me lunch so many times
i Can't imagine the emotional and Physical stress you must go through
Thanks and keep buying the game ffs
spaghetti filled with croissants 
Glad we can fuel your Taco Bell dependencies
Depending on how much a lunch costs for you, we've each only bought you like 2 lunches max
But thank you for appreciating us 
We should just use lunches as a new universal currency
What is going on here
graig bullies us for lunch money
It's like how people used to trade with livestock
Ah, the usual
"I'll pay you 2 chickens for that axe" and then you pull out 2 live chickens from your pocket and slap them on the table
Graig changes economics forever circa 2021
if bullying results in a 40 hour long fun indie game maybe i should get bullied more often
Unsure whether to shroompog or elderC

fine
ur fat
awesome, now wheres silksong
this is also the second time someones made a fat joke to me
it takes 4 yrs of bullying
hey, for all i know, u have the physique of a greek god
I am 5 foot, so a short greek god
Hephaestus
Bardoon > Any other NPC
is Bardoon better than Hornet and the knight?
Hephaestus was a gifted smith, but he was also kind of a jerk
To be Hephaestus you also need a receding hairline
I said ANY NPC
Hornet is still an npc
those are the only playable characters I'm pretty sure
well hornet isn't playable yet so she still counts
I guess so
what about the knight though
They are not playable
That is the player character
he's fine for now
we play as ourselves
controlling the knight
The knight has no agency and therefore does not exist lore wise
i know, i was asking in terms of whether bardoon was better than the knight specifically
So confusing
if that was confusing, good
because I pulled that all out of my ass
that is completely untrue
Joker, you're not in lore anymore
you’ve been trollege
Wow
oh yes
I'm not a gnelf
I'm not a gnoblin
My life is no longer a lie
are you a gnome?
well we can all agree that hornet is ___
we all have been gnomed
true
hornet is the most of all time
Horney
I agree, Hornet really is one of the characters of all time
no we have been coconut malled
no :(
what
how could you
These are all proper reactions
yep
Hornet puts the horn in horney, but that’s just a theory
A horney theory
stop making this worse
?
out of web
Web 😏
Where does her silk come from?
huh?
Her shell
Where is this going?
Crickets
hollow knight cloth reference?
oh you just mean this channel is dead
ched lol
dammit mods. I wanted the free nitro
What’s everyone’s favourite type of weather, and why?
I’m sure you can find a link somewhere
Sleet because it’s l33t
Damn I wish I got snow around Christmas 
It’s great for a Christmas aesthetic, but it can be pretty annoying most of the time
True but the feeling of being a little too cold and warm is a little better than being a bit too hot and then cool IMO
True a slurpee on a blazing hot day does hit the spot








