#sk-discussion

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haughty ingot
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late 2019 for sure this time

analog forge
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I mean weve already seen bunches of dead bugs

shell yacht
haughty ingot
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time is perspective

proud vale
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Good guess Powdered

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Also I will die on the Q1 2022 gang HILL wkroll

shell yacht
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3q 2099 gang rise up

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4th?

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idk

chilly nexus
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I'm in Q2 of 2023

analog forge
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it is currently q4 :)

proud vale
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It’s either Q1 2022 or Q1 2023 for sureeeee

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And unless they’ve run into MAJOR problems I don’t think it would go any past 2023

serene chasm
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I don't believe in time anymore

fleet temple
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That's what everyone says

tawdry valley
chilly nexus
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an hour passed without news of SS, I've moved from Q3 2023 to Q1 2025

tawdry valley
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This stuff also happens to have been said in 2019; not just 2020

chilly nexus
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10 more seconds have passed, and I'm now in Q1 of 2026 ||scratch that, 5 more seconds past, Q2||

cerulean sable
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honestly 2022 take it or leave it

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most pessimistic i could do is late 2022-mid 2023

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my copium side is telling me them not updating us mid 2021 is more of a moment of "Were already at this point of the game where we can safely release in the next 6+ months, lets just fucking finish it"

cerulean sable
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your mother

lean rampart
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sup Vis

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havent seen you in the server since you stopped the comics

chilly nexus
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i wonder if for fearless fox they're gonna announce it alongside a release date

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or if they see this chat and go: "we like this, let's do it again" :p

fleet temple
hollow sedge
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no point in doing an update if they are almost finished with the game

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honestly it doesnt even seem like copium, seems more likely then not

chilly nexus
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Time to create and hop on the train for hoping for no SS news because it implies the game is close to completion with a relatively-decent likelihood fleacrying

tribal merlin
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no, TC said nearing release there would be more news

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or, well, they hope there would be more newszote

hollow sedge
main relic
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Lol do you remember at E3 Treehouse 2019 the presenter said Silksong was almost done? :'D

rugged solstice
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It could be done if Team Cherry wants it to be. But they wanna keep adding stuff is what I heard

tribal merlin
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the "adding stuff" comes from people who don't have knowledge about software development, they lack the imagination to think about anything else that's part of the process

cerulean sable
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game dev easy bro

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just add stuff

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and it magically builds up

tribal merlin
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just write it so that it works out of the gate

lament lotus
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just spam keyboard

cerulean sable
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and if it bugs out then youre just a lazy dev shigermu momto once said delay good game rush bad game pls upvote on reddit

coarse leaf
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trying to 3d model lace shroompog
having a slightly hard time thought basing it from how she looks

cerulean sable
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cell shading

fiery coral
summer kindle
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woah

rapid topaz
lament lotus
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emission+freestyle=shroompog

cerulean sable
frozen bloom
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Honesty question

If SilkSong releases and you dont have money to buy it.
Will you pirate it?

coarse leaf
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no

rapid topaz
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I don't think so

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Also I doubt SS is expansive (compared to the average price, in general)

frozen bloom
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Team cherry if they charged a lot for ss

coarse leaf
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pirating an indie game too is just plain wrong (pirating in general anyway)

coarse leaf
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fair i guess tamershrug

rugged solstice
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I'd spend $60 for Silksong

frozen bloom
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It will be worth it

rapid topaz
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Pirating something you want to support is weird though

frozen bloom
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Pirate, then pay

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Question
Can you access the workshop and the mods section in steam if you pirated that game?

rugged solstice
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adofai is only like 4 bucks how could you 🤔

rapid topaz
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Is this A dance of fire and Ice (adofai)

fallow rock
coarse leaf
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yes! shroompog

coarse leaf
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?

upper sigil
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i kinda understand pirating a game to try it out to see if its good

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for ppl that dont wanna waste money on a game they wont like

lament drum
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steam refunds are pretty lenient though

harsh pendant
lament lotus
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refunds?

summer kindle
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watching a bit of a playthrough works just as well imo
unless the controls are really clunky or something and you only find out when you buy the game

upper sigil
lament lotus
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refund

summer kindle
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read what i said

summer kindle
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if you do that's your problem

upper sigil
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it happened to me in the past with some games

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gameplay looked good and fun but i still ended up disliking the game

lament drum
upper sigil
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vailhem for example

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or wathever that viking survival game name is

summer kindle
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they really did buy the game later

harsh pendant
lament drum
summer kindle
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the thing with checking if the game is good is if you don't like it you still got to play it for free

lament drum
summer kindle
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yea i know

harsh pendant
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And it’s not like they need to prove their intent to someone to be allowed to pirate.

lament drum
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in conversation is what i mean, people wont want to admit to pirating for such reasons so theyll often try to look better to others by claiming its just for testing purposes

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and like i said the 2 hour refund limit is usually fine, so why pirate?

upper sigil
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isnt enough for some ppl

pallid flare
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not every vendor provides refunds

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or has requirements this lax

harsh pendant
upper sigil
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some ppl technicly just straight up cant buy the game

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because of parents

lament drum
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i dont think its a terrible practice, but i also dont think most people who claim to do so are honest about their reasoning

cerulean sable
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advocate for Demos in game

lament drum
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absolutely

cerulean sable
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nothing is more annoying than spending 40gbs worth of download only to see that the game is unoptimized as shit

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atm i just jump the shark and just try to go under the refund hour but at times i sometimes FEEL like i wanna pirate just to test the waters for a day before buying it, but never push through due to the amount of effort

harsh pendant
lament drum
cerulean sable
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just dont be like that guy we had in the modding help way back then

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kept asking for help for the mod api to work

upper sigil
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do you guys think its fine to pirate if you cant buy the game at all

cerulean sable
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people tried to help him but eventually noticed if he had the game on steam

upper sigil
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for example parents dont wanna let you buy the game

cerulean sable
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apparently he didnt, and people said to buy the game first then come back, said he doesnt want to atm, because he wants to use the money to buy gunplas (basically figurines of gundam robots), then kept egging to help

harsh pendant
cerulean sable
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people kept telling him then dont bother them for help, eventually he figured it out on his own and said something like "NVM got it working"

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got banned a few months later for another similar reason

lament drum
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deserved lol

opaque sigil
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I mean if you're gonna pirate the game the least you could do is not then whine about having pirated the game pepegamaster

cerulean sable
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like bro, if you live in a 3rd world country whos access to video games is 5 times the price then yeah i guess i cant blame you, but come on

"i cant buy it, i need the money for my figurines instead, now can you please help me?"

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buzz off

harsh pendant
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Sooooo, any silksong news?

lament drum
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nope

opaque sigil
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Not for the past several months

harsh pendant
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Sigh

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I’ll go back to crying then

surreal mortar
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Silksong?

coarse leaf
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Whats that

harsh pendant
marsh ibex
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If you were crying over silksong, you probably should stop hyper-fixating on it so much

coarse leaf
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I anti-pirated hollow knight by buying more copies than one 😎😎😎

marsh ibex
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hey graig

iron spear
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TC get heaps of emails from people saying they pirated the game but cos it was so good they bought it after lol

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Basically pirating only hurts you if your product is shit

coarse leaf
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LMFAO, I did that with dont starve

iron spear
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That's why the music and movie industry hate it lmao

harsh pendant
marsh ibex
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or if the product isn’t sold any more

harsh pendant
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I don’t care how good the game is, I ain’t paying 60€

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Either wait for a sale, or pirate

coarse leaf
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I would pay 100 aud for silksong

harsh pendant
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Mmmmm. I simply can’t afford it lol:)

coarse leaf
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Dont tell them tho pls graig 😳

harsh pendant
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I feel there is some point when the excuse “there is nothing to update, they are just working on silksong” doesn’t seem convincing anymore. I really would like something to know about it.

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Apart from stupid Nintendo leaks

coarse leaf
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Patience bro, spoils r no fun

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Going into silksong with no knowledge is more fun

harsh pendant
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Errr

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“We have finished a good chunk of the game” is more what I’m looking for

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Not specifics

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Some days I doubt Team Cherry exists anymore

coarse leaf
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I told u i seen ari at coles once hes real 😳

harsh pendant
coarse leaf
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XDDDDD

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Perhaps shermanxious

fleet temple
fleet temple
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Well I mean, you seem like you can't deal with the wait anymore so it's best to distract yourself with something else for now

harsh pendant
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It says something when we have similar advice to anxiety as for silksong wait.

fleet temple
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Lol

coarse leaf
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What

harsh pendant
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Although, I do wonder how many years of silence have to pass that people would abandon hope?

coarse leaf
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Dennis how about u spend ur time doing p5 hitless bro

marsh ibex
coarse leaf
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Sharp shadow only

harsh pendant
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Assumptions need to be confirmed or disproven

coarse leaf
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More wait = better game bro

marsh ibex
harsh pendant
marsh ibex
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they literally say they are working on the game

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if you work on something, more stuff gets done

coarse leaf
harsh pendant
ionic schooner
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TC is reminding me of Steam TF2's team rn but then again both teams are like 3 people

opaque sigil
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I mean by default unless they just aren't working on the game (which has been stated to be false many times) then the assumption would be that they're making progress palehmm

marsh ibex
coarse leaf
marsh ibex
opaque sigil
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There ya go

harsh pendant
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Yay

nimble radish
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graig is lying

heady iron
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TC is wasting 2 days per week not working on MY game???

harsh pendant
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Now watch me shift my expectations and ask for a demo:)

opaque sigil
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But the whole "unless they show that they're working they aren't working" mindset is nonsensical

marsh ibex
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asking for a demo takes time out of making the finished product

harsh pendant
marsh ibex
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if they were gonna give a demo, they would’ve given the e3 one

harsh pendant
fleet temple
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Whenever someone says "I just want them to say that they're alive" my answer is always "Do you think they've stopped working?"

opaque sigil
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Fine. the whole "unless they tell they are working they aren't working" mindset is nonsensical

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They can work without constantly having to tell their audience that they are doing so

fleet temple
opaque sigil
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If SS gets cancelled they'll announce it

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Which at this point it won't

harsh pendant
opaque sigil
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If all of TC dies in a horrible freak accident it'll be safe to assume it's cancelled zote

fleet temple
harsh pendant
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There are numerous life circumstances where public announcements are the least of your concerns.

fleet temple
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Yeah but they'd still announce it like maybe a month later

harsh pendant
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But you know, less dramatically, a hiatus is not something that is announced necessarily.

opaque sigil
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But delving into crazy hypotheticals isn't the best way to defend your stance

fleet temple
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Do you have that little trust in team cherry?

pallid flare
marsh ibex
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Me

pallid flare
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oh

opaque sigil
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And if they do take a break from development for some reason (they are human beings with families and lives) then they don't need to announce it

harsh pendant
fleet temple
opaque sigil
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The reasons cyberpunk flopped don't apply to TC, that isn't a reasonable equivocation

marsh ibex
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Cyberpunk was bad because of upper management meddling

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TC is the upper management

fleet temple
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It's never good to compare two different things that have one small similarity

harsh pendant
opaque sigil
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Equivalence, mb

nimble radish
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echolocation

opaque sigil
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It was false equivalence

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Either way it doesn't make sense to assert possible parallels

signal crag
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they are way too different to make a fair comparison

harsh pendant
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It wasn’t though. Not in the sense I meant it. Yes, specific reasons might be different. But it is a precedent for people’s trust being broken, regardless of hype and reputation. What I’m saying is that asking me whether I trust team cherry is irrelevant. I’d like some proofs regardless of trust.

coarse leaf
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Why 💀 they dont owe u anything

opaque sigil
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That's the path of insanity

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And even saying that they're working on it isn't proof

pallid flare
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the only things that they promised were that they were working on it and that it was coming

opaque sigil
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TC has no obligation nor reason to accommodate the audience in this regard, it's incoherent

fleet temple
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And let's be honest, even if they did say something like that, you'd still say that they need to give us more

opaque sigil
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The only way to prove progress beyond doubt is by releasing dev builds constantly

harsh pendant
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General bitching to feel alive

opaque sigil
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Footage and screenshots could always be fabricated, after all.

harsh pendant
cerulean sable
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someone did see Ari in the streets just a month ago

fleet temple
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The only reason people ask for news is because there's a small tiny unlikely chance that it will be the release date

harsh pendant
opaque sigil
cerulean sable
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and pretty much said "were still working on it, game scope has been larger so its taking longer, covid didnt affect us at. all. because were so small restrictions didnt even apply to us"

opaque sigil
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Yes, TC could have been struck by lightning at the same time an hour ago and we probably wouldn't know but does that really mean they need to assure us constantly that that (or something similar) did not happen

marsh ibex
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I mean I don’t really care about proof or whatever. You can want that, sure.

But like, the only “proof” they could give are basic statements. Which can change as goal posts move, or delays happen, or they could outright lie.

marsh ibex
fleet temple
marsh ibex
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V-

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v e n t i n g?

opaque sigil
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There is always going to be some doubt, that's just unavoidable

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Unless you're sitting there in the TC office watching them work you're just gonna have to trust them a bit

fleet temple
marsh ibex
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:tuksus:

fleet temple
cerulean sable
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"Honestly they just need to release one image and the community will be satisfied for months"

Me, watching as Edge reveal a fuckton of shit, immediately turns back to release date talk after 4 days:

shell yacht
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you dont really have an option. youre entitled to no news.sit and wait, or go touch grass

marsh ibex
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silence nerd

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go back to your nerd basement

shell yacht
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no weeb

opaque sigil
fleet temple
marsh ibex
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Says the dude with the earth chan pfp

coarse leaf
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maybe the real silksong was the friends we made along the way

opaque sigil
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It started popping back up pretty much immediately. idt it really stopped, just got drowned out a bit

cerulean sable
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yeah it was like

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nice info

opaque sigil
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where game pepegamaster

cerulean sable
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then starts using it to speculate that the game is finished and itll release soon

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then that turns into another shitshow about how they wish TC would just give a timeframe for the release date

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also some people that saw the magazine were asking if they released anything about a release date in it

opaque sigil
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Yes, because that would be a sensible place to put a date

rapid topaz
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I don't get why it's so important to know the date, like, this doesn't mean the game will be finished faster if they gave an estimated range of date for the release

opaque sigil
rapid topaz
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For me "it's done when it's done" is probably the most logical and reasonable thing tamershrug

opaque sigil
shell yacht
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and dont even touch the reddit posts zote

rapid topaz
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Well I can understand the speculations and stuff, I've done some myself.. but at some point I just came with the conclusion that it wasn't worth it. Also I started a dev class a month ago and even if I'm still a beginner, I can imagine the amount of work needed for this kind of project. From what I've seen, people seems to not fully realize how messy and complicated a project like that could turns out

random fox
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Alo

opaque sigil
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Yeah, that's probably a part of it. It's often explicitly a component of why people think more blogposts is a wholly reasonable expectation

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eg "it doesn't take that long to write a few paragraphs, maybe an hour or two" or something similar when in reality it disrupts about a week of dev time

random fox
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I wouldnt mind if we got ss 1 week late if it means we get some news

shell yacht
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one week late compared to what date lmao thats just more gimme news crap

random fox
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I mean im not gonna go harass anyone cuz no news cuz thats never okay to do but its been quite a while

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It would be pretty good if we got anything

burnt oar
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agree

opaque sigil
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Week here, week there, soon you're looking at months

burnt oar
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and years

opaque sigil
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Plus TC doesn't necessarily want to lose that week

shell yacht
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tldr: shuttup and wait zote

burnt oar
rapid topaz
opaque sigil
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imo TC's probably as eager if not moreso than we are for release, needless delays might not be something they want to suffer

shell yacht
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its actually taking forever bcGraigs supposed to be hand delivering physical copies

random fox
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Wait if i preorder physical copy ill meet graig

rapid topaz
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I can pay Graig with french cheese and wine

harsh pendant
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A day maybe.

opaque sigil
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It disrupts the flow of development, and they have to be exceedingly careful with screenshots and what they say, plus find fanart, etc

harsh pendant
opaque sigil
harsh pendant
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:/

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Fair. Also, you lurk here way too much:)

opaque sigil
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I'm not lurking, I'm actively here

coarse leaf
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no I dont have a problem no I dont have a problem no I dont have a problem no I dont have a problem no I dont have a problem no I dont have a problem no I dont have a problem no I dont have a problem no I dont have a problem no I dont have a problem

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new silksong leek???????

shell yacht
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huntress gonna eat flea soup

random fox
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Poggers

rapid topaz
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let's goo

opaque sigil
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flea coat flashbacks agoneyes

pallid flare
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why make blogpost if you can make game?

shell yacht
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why make a game when you can bully graig

coarse leaf
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why bully graig when you can bully graig

lament lotus
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why

craggy fjord
lament lotus
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true

olive bobcat
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Why bully Graig when you can bully me

coarse leaf
pallid flare
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what

opaque sigil
coarse leaf
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tammo how much of ollow knight did u finish

serene chasm
opaque sigil
olive bobcat
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Fake fan herrahangry

coarse leaf
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lmfao fair enough

pallid flare
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wait a second you never did the fragile flower thing

opaque sigil
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No

pallid flare
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isn't that a %

coarse leaf
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u know what the real pain is? radiant vengefly i literally cannot do it i dont have the patience

serene chasm
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Did you do pop

opaque sigil
coarse leaf
pallid flare
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incredible

coarse leaf
opaque sigil
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I mean I've never claimed to have done 112% zote

minor gale
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I dont know how i feel about the New Tool system

serene chasm
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Tool talk?!

coarse leaf
opaque sigil
coarse leaf
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CHARMS ARE COOL

serene chasm
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They could be cooler

opaque sigil
serene chasm
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Good on you Tammo

coarse leaf
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unbreakble STRENGTHHHH!!!

opaque sigil
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Charms weren't bad, of course, just compared to the other aspects of HK it felt kind of dry

coarse leaf
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bruh i thought the charms are sexy as

craggy fjord
minor gale
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No have you seen the dempo

opaque sigil
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Yellow and blue tools, probably, red tools will have finite uses between benches

craggy fjord
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Or do you need to keep buying them

serene chasm
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Is broken AF and ruins just became the meta. I'm hoping they balance tols enogh that there won't be a set on tools / crest that is just op and using anything else is pointless

opaque sigil
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You can repair them at benches

craggy fjord
opaque sigil
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You do need shell shards but they're plentiful and have no other purpose afawk

craggy fjord
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If we had to keep buying/getting them I would just not use any

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Like health potions in any game with health potions

opaque sigil
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You don't need to run back to merchants or anything, yeah, that would suck zote

minor gale
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I think the bind thing is the best thing added

coarse leaf
opaque sigil
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Although tbh I'm not thrilled about the limited ammo ordeal but I'm optimistic that it'll work out

coarse leaf
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I'm not a fan of the crafting shards thing either

opaque sigil
serene chasm
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They have to balance it somehow

coarse leaf
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so charms arent coming back?

opaque sigil
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Tools will fill a similar role and then some

coarse leaf
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but there anret gonna be 44 tools

opaque sigil
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Probably more

coarse leaf
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whaaaaaa

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😮

opaque sigil
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Yellow and Blue tools will likely fill the role of charms, with red tools becoming attacks and abilities

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And crests themselves will have unique properties

serene chasm
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Plus crests also seem to have passive properties. Or enhance the tools properties. The variation in SS is going to be awesome

opaque sigil
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There will probably still be a meta but with an increased range of options there will probably be more viable ones

minor gale
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I wonder if we will see ghost in the game

opaque sigil
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We won't

minor gale
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How

opaque sigil
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wym

coarse leaf
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Will there be like build paths

minor gale
opaque sigil
coarse leaf
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Aighr sounds good

opaque sigil
# minor gale Like evidence

Probably not a prequel, and even if it is that would still be contradictory to TC's messaging about SS being an independent game

opaque sigil
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I could see a reference to it in passing or something, though

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Something vague and small so that fans of HK recognize it but it wouldn't necessarily ostracize those new to the series

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That can be tough to balance but even something as unassuming as "I am without my usual tools" (from forge daughter convo) can help leverage the first game to contextualize the second without necessitating it for understanding

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Like, to an old player that's a clear reference to the spikeballs Hornet had in KE, but to a new player it could just mean "weapon." There isn't really a feeling of missing something, necessarily

trim estuary
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For example: “I’m missing my half sibling made of void” would not be a good way to reference TK

summer kindle
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"i sure do hate the fact that my half-sibling that's the child of two higher beings that was taken over by some spicy n't sauce that murdered the whole population of hallownest's infected bugs and became pretty much a god isn't here right now"

trim estuary
cerulean sable
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this charm makes you shoot out spores when you heal (woah)
this charm summons small baby flukes at the cost of soul (wow)
this charm has a chance to not damage you the more you get hurt (what???)
this charm straight up increases your fucking DPS that to the point that you can destroy a lot of the bosses with it :)))))))))

foggy dune
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do we know if ss is going to be set b4 or after HK?

opaque sigil
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Not with certainty but probably after

tough glen
opaque sigil
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Exactly sethscheme

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Much more room to mess around, and presumably more replay value since you can go through multiple times with different general setups

tough glen
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Do you think there'll be more unique setup-based NPC interactions?

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Similar to Defender's Crest

opaque sigil
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I could see that, especially since crests are articles of clothing, so they would probably be pretty visible to npcs

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It would make sense for some to comment on them

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And some tools are modeled after NPC weapons so they might have something to say

nimble radish
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the defenders crest interactions are due to the knight smelling so bad that everyone notices

tough glen
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Yeah ik

nimble radish
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passive tools would have to have similarly noticeable effects for tools to trigger dialogue

opaque sigil
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I mean even VH had a good amount of npc dialogue

tough glen
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That's what I meant, if hornet carrying a throwing knife tool atm gets someone to comment on her walking through town fully armed or sth

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For example

opaque sigil
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I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was at least a similar amount of NPC acknowledgement of that sort of thing

tough glen
opaque sigil
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Fair

bleak pine
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Whats ss?

opaque sigil
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Silksong, the sequel (maybe chronologically) to Hollow Knight

bleak pine
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Oh

tough glen
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Please, call it a spiritual successor. There's no clear connection between the world of Silksong to the world of Hollow Knight.
||zote||

opaque sigil
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“And then there are also these tasks that characters – or Hornet herself – will lay out for the player.” “They vary across the world,” Gibson says, “and some of them are related to helping the residents in seeing changes and evolution to the spaces that you inhabit.” Pellen adds: “There’s more of that stuff happening this time – it’s quite a complex world.”
It does seem like pharloom npc interactions will be a bit more nuanced, along with, well, most everything

tough glen
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I'm so hyped for signs that don't break in one hit

trim estuary
opaque sigil
tough glen
#

Did you not notice my zote at the end there

#

It was a joke, of course they're in the same world

opaque sigil
#

Well there's not really a clear connection between settings, beyond the few characters

tough glen
#

Yeah but you can't get clearer than that

nimble radish
#

since it's not a direct sequel we should call it a squeakwell

shy stirrup
#

Its totally a direct sequel timewise

opaque sigil
#

lori I will hunt you to the ends of the earth if you say that again crabgun

tough glen
#

Hornet being the protag of SS is a very clear and direct connection

tough glen
opaque sigil
#

Yeah but it doesn't establish a robust connection between the history of Pharloom and Hallownest

tough glen
#

Oh yeah I didn't mean the lore

opaque sigil
#

Oh, I did. mb

tough glen
#

Just the world itself

glossy gazelle
opaque sigil
#

I'm tired ok

tough glen
#

hornet and void

empty trench
#

*hornet is void

tough glen
#

crabgun
You asked, white hornetsip

trim estuary
dusty nimbus
cerulean sable
#

Hornet you need to go to Bonebottom Hornet

#

Hornet, Bonebottom is under attack

#

Please help us

#

Ill mark it on your map

glossy gazelle
#

I wonder how many towns there will be, Have we seen 3 or 4 thus far?

olive bobcat
#

We've seen 4 so far

#

If we're going by Dirtmouth sizes, 4 towns is a lot

trim estuary
#

I think skirmishes with NPCs if you anger them would be cool

opaque sigil
#

Plus the caravan which was described as a "roaming dirtmouth" or something along those lines

coarse leaf
opaque sigil
#

There's still a lot there even if Hornet can move through it faster

silver oak
#

Hornet travelling at Mach 1

coarse leaf
#

float like a bug, sting like a hornet

olive bobcat
coarse leaf
#

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

silver oak
jade canopy
#

@ mods

coarse leaf
tawdry valley
opaque sigil
#

Yeah, maybe a vendor or two

tawdry valley
viral pivot
#

They didnt

opaque sigil
viral pivot
#

wait

opaque sigil
#

I don't think DDX mistook that image for being from the demo

viral pivot
#

its a meme image, bad time to come in XD

#

sorry just came in the channel and saw that zote

coarse leaf
#

💀

frozen bloom
#

**Papapapap
Tatata..
Tataatat
🥁
Milksong!!
**

chilly nexus
frozen bloom
#

Guys
Wanna see a movie?

cunning geode
#

dont send a pirated movie

frozen bloom
#

Look

pallid flare
#

you weren't about to do that right

frozen bloom
coarse leaf
#

💀

opaque sigil
cunning geode
#

yes

opaque sigil
#

Damn

nimble radish
#

it's ok to send a movie that's public domain though

opaque sigil
#

Well yeah, ofc

frozen bloom
#

Move over..

cunning geode
#

what?

pallid flare
#

I have no idea

frozen bloom
#

🦴

#

I have a major breakthrough

lament lotus
#

?

frozen bloom
#

In Hollow Knight, the knight uses Milk to cast various thinks and is around The Milk
And in Silk Song
Its not actually Silk..
Its Milk in long thread form

cunning geode
#

are you ok

lament lotus
dusty nimbus
#

So it's milk grass

old flare
#

Milksong confirmed??

coarse leaf
#

milk? pog

frozen bloom
#

Wait, Its all milk?
Always has been cartergunleft

lament lotus
#

milk doesnt give me soul irl
or whats part of it

frozen bloom
dusty nimbus
#

I believe there will be at least an easter egg to milk in SS

lament lotus
frozen bloom
lament lotus
cunning geode
#

seriously though

fervent salmon
#

ok

frozen bloom
#

There is a discord nitro link thats a rickroll

#

But it looks more like those scams

opaque sigil
#

But now would not be a good climate to use it zote

#

At this point I doubt mods think twice before banning for fake nitro links

frozen bloom
#

Insta-ban

lament lotus
#

just blacklist the words they say?

frozen bloom
#

Btw my friend was giving away legit nitros and everyone hesitated to click it lol

opaque sigil
#

Like what, "nitro," "free," etc?

cunning geode
#

we already blacklist scam links

#

they just have a lot of them

lament lotus
#

ah

opaque sigil
#

And I imagine new ones pop up

frozen bloom
cunning geode
#

there are many many scam links you never see because they are blacklisted

lament lotus
#

what is their goal though?

cunning geode
#

so however bad you think it is - it's worse feelspkman

opaque sigil
#

Probably an exponentially increasing number of them too

fiery coral
#

And some you never see because we're so quick 😎

opaque sigil
lament lotus
#

hm probably

frozen bloom
opaque sigil
#

tell your friend to dm me Well people are understandably cautious about this stuff nowadays tamershrug

frozen bloom
opaque sigil
#

(I was joking btw)

lament lotus
pallid flare
#

because it might be real

opaque sigil
#

That one was real, idt you can fake that discord thing

lament lotus
#

what

opaque sigil
#

The special embed

lament lotus
#

im pepegamaster

opaque sigil
#

I don't think that can be faked

warm bone
olive bobcat
frozen bloom
coarse leaf
#

silksong when

frozen bloom
olive bobcat
opaque sigil
#

No, not that, the little window that says "you received a gift"

coarse leaf
#

#teamcherrygiveussilkong

#

I’ll even take a demo

lament lotus
#

they did

coarse leaf
#

they did?

lament lotus
#

like 2 years ago

coarse leaf
#

that’s e3 bro

opaque sigil
#

It's a demo tamershrug

lament lotus
#

still demo

coarse leaf
#

and that’s 2 years ago

frozen bloom
#

Make a time machine and go back to past to play the demo

opaque sigil
#

Why would tc make another demo

frozen bloom
#

Or... Just go to the future..

lament lotus
#

easy as 1 2 3

coarse leaf
#

how much u think silksong is gonna cost

opaque sigil
#

$15

coarse leaf
#

I’m guessing $25 but I would pay $50 easily

frozen bloom
#

They could have charged like 80$ for hk itself

#

Even free dlcs

opaque sigil
#

Game wouldn't have sold well if they did

frozen bloom
#

Yeah,
Considering it was their first game

coarse leaf
#

but they could get away with $30 for silksong

opaque sigil
#

15 was smart, and it worked amazingly for them

coarse leaf
#

unfortunately indies can’t go for more than $40 or they sell poorly

#

and getting an indie game at an $40 price tag can still be difficult to get sales with

opaque sigil
#

Indies also don't need to be that expensive to turn a profit, with a lower cost of production

coarse leaf
#

true

opaque sigil
#

Plus TC has been designing SS with new players in mind so they aren't exclusively aiming for their previous audience, so $15 still seems like a better choice imo

#

But I'm not an expert or anything tamershrug

#

Plus they have talked about being sensitive to the fact that in some places even $15 is a lot of money

#

So I don't really see that substantial an increase

glass vigil
#

It’s a highly anticipated game, I think they could get away with charging 20 to 25 USD and no one would complain too much

opaque sigil
#

Maybe but that's a 33%-66% price increase

#

Substantial and not really necessary

coarse leaf
#

i will literally pay 200 for silksong

opaque sigil
#

It's not about what they could get away with

glass vigil
#

Silksong could be much bigger than Hollow Knight we don’t know that bruv, you’re comparing prices with the previous game

#

They have the resources to make the game as big as they want now

olive bobcat
#

Doesn't mean they'll make the price as big as they want too

opaque sigil
#

If price:content ratio was a priority over accessibility and appeal then HK's $15 price tag is incoherent

#

Even with more reputation some of their reasoning behind the pricing holds

coarse leaf
#

900 IQ strat: release game at a 50% launch discount at 15$ then 2 weeks later make it 30$ so OG fans get it at the HK price and TC gets more money from a bigger game

glass vigil
#

Not so much now

opaque sigil
#

Even with more reputation some of their reasoning behind the pricing holds

#

Accessibility and appeal to a wider audience than established HK fans are still a concern

#

Plus even at $15 SS would still be a significant financial success. HK was, and that may well end up selling fewer copies than SS will

#

And again, I'm not saying they couldn't go higher, I just don't expect them to

#

Very different

#

Does it sound like they plan on increasing the prices of their games significantly?

tawdry valley
#

Beyond that however, raising the price of a game by say, 30% and losing 50% of a customer base is a net loss in profit

opaque sigil
#

Yes, but idk if that would really necessarily translate into that much loss, especially with the game following up on HK's success

tawdry valley
#

It’s in TCs best interests as an internationally known Ip as well as an indie game to not raise the price significantly or even at all for this reason

opaque sigil
#

Yeah, I agree in principle

#

But I do think that that the downsides would be more pronounced in the case of a game that has relatively little fanfare

little cairn
#

how much is gonna ss cost?

tawdry valley
#

15-25usd

cunning geode
#

theyre literally all talking about that right now

little cairn
#

cool

pallid flare
#

what's up with that question today

opaque sigil
formal karma
#

it's so mind-bending to me that people are sticklers for that subject

opaque sigil
#

I mean yeah we don't have any solid answers

coarse leaf
opaque sigil
#

DDX's numbers were arbitrary

tawdry valley
#

^

coarse leaf
#

i would literally pay $20398812382 for silksong

opaque sigil
#

The point was that increasing price can decrease profit

tawdry valley
#

And is also guaranteed to botch accessibility

coarse leaf
tawdry valley
#

Both of which are things TC will consider when setting a price tag.

opaque sigil
#

Accessibility is explicitly a priority

coarse leaf
#

Personaly i dont care about the price they deserve it

tawdry valley
opaque sigil
#

I do not think they used the word "literally" literally zote

formal karma
#

exagerating is funni

coarse leaf
coarse leaf
tawdry valley
#

$20,398,812,382 is half of the planets GDP

coarse leaf
#

i dont think so

tawdry valley
coarse leaf
#

its 20 bil though

tawdry valley
#

Granted it’s circulated money;

formal karma
#

GDP isn't money

pallid flare
#

that's quite a bit of money

trim estuary
#

A spoonful

coarse leaf
coarse leaf
burnt topaz
#

where are you getting the money from

pallid flare
coarse leaf
#

i married bezos and divorced him

serene chasm
pallid flare
#

I do it by a case by case basis

#

to figure the optimal settings out, google "how to launder money"

coarse leaf
pallid flare
summer kindle
#

wash your money guys

coarse leaf
#

i actually run a geo laundering scheme with the help of millibelle

chilly nexus
#

same. I put my coins in her, put her in a hot spring, then knock her around a bit

burnt topaz
coarse leaf
#

this my mental state

opaque sigil
#

Hornet or the golem zote

coarse leaf
#

both

trim estuary
#

They want to destroy things and are deeply afraid of the situation they’re in but ready to confront it

past kettle
coarse leaf
#

Wow, that's... specific

#

but relatable 😔

past kettle
#

Yknow when you drop the not garbage in the garbage and the garbage in the not garbage

#

Yeah

dim shadow
#

I got a dream that silksong came out in 6 minutes and never before have i been so disappointed to wake up

past kettle
#

That’s terribly unfortunate. I’ve only had one silksong dream and in it hornet was fighting the hamburgler

dim shadow
#

It was a Nintendo direct that said "silksong release date revealed! Silksong will arrive in 6 minutes!"

past kettle
#

That’d be sick

#

One can dream

dim shadow
#

Disappointed as hell when i woke up

past kettle
#

Understandably so

chilly nexus
#

I dreamt that Ari, William, Jack, and Chris all randomly showed up at my house for a dinner party, and Jack was exposed to actually be Jack Larkin, Chris Larkin's son

pallid flare
#

atleast you remembered Jack, right?

chilly nexus
#

i mean, he was the main plot-piece ye

dusk bay
#

may 23rd

pallid flare
#

what's gonna happen on that day

dusk bay
#

:quirrelpeace:

dusk bay
burnt topaz
#

may 23rd?

#

thats over half a year away

dusk bay
#

time will tell what shall occur on that day

burnt topaz
#

what if i forget

dusk bay
#

then all is lost

burnt topaz
#

can you remind me?

dusk bay
#

:quirrelpeace:

burnt topaz
#

oh

#

so long, joco

nimble radish
#

@stoic turret

#

?sspsa

thin zephyrBOT
#

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. hollowpins

stoic turret
#

when

#

epic

burnt topaz
#

thats a new one

warm bone
#

#hk-meme

dusty nimbus
opaque sigil
#

They probably got it from Johnny zote

burnt topaz
#

the heart is so bright and smooth in that one

opaque sigil
still owl
#

no news? thank god!

#

more reasons not to spoil myself KEK

serene chasm
#

no news is good news

still owl
#

(here's hoping to the yearly dec update)

serene chasm
#

We'll get another kickstarter comment

cosmic widget
#

A backer here might be feeling the urge to ask lol

trim estuary
dusk bay
#

Do not folloow the teachings of the false prophet grover

#

Spelling hard

fleet temple
trim estuary
#

Grover was the one in my dream???

dusk bay
#

Yes

potent plover
#

Just finished Inscryption and it's making me think about how quickly I will finish silksong

trim estuary
dusk bay
#

I'd say it'll take about 5

potent plover
#

I sometimes binge games for like 7 hours in basically one sitting

#

although silksong will probably be pretty long

dusk bay
dusk bay
potent plover
#

It took me like 35 hours with boss guides and walkthroughs to get to the rad ending

#

I'm hoping but also not hoping that the ss bosses will take me a lot more time to defeat so I can play the game more

dusk bay
#

You dont know pain till you've seen someone base nail no upgrade take down nkg

#

obviously wasnt me who did it, but still, sitting through that experience was a true trial

vivid belfry
burnt topaz
dry narwhal
#

oops

blazing geyser
# dusk bay Do not folloow the teachings of the false prophet grover

You dare speak blashpemy with the intent of poisoning the mind and will to turn us away from the messiah Grover "Gruzzer Milk" Soup? How dare you have the audacity to speak such wicked words! For shame! You shall surely boil in the eternal pots of Gruzzer Milk for these crimes against God himself.

nimble radish
#

boiled milk?

summer kindle
#

is that not normal

nimble radish
#

you blasphemers shall be frozen into gruzzer ice cream for this

pallid flare
summer kindle
#

oh

lavish delta
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

trim estuary
vivid belfry
marsh ibex
iron spear
#

Starting town hornetshock

pallid flare
#

graig what

vivid belfry
#

graig's so good at the game he's done bonebottom skip on every test run without realizing it

trim estuary
#

Graig accidentally builds the entire moss grotto town without ever leaving it

neon talon
#

wait what

silver oak
trim estuary
#

Yeah

coarse leaf
silver oak
#

1 Graig, 1 wife, 3 children

#

shopping list

#

makes for a good stew

vague heath
#

i didnt use any boss guides though just guides on where to go, also I had shade cloak before fighting watcher knights which made them alot easier

clever bear
chilly nexus
#

Graig why didn't you attend my dream dinner with TC (even Jack and Chris were there)

tribal merlin
#

dunnoh it feels like you'd have to handcraft some pretty darn good spaghetti to even apply for an audition to apply for dinner with Graig

silver oak
tribal merlin
#

it's not a race
also the quicker you finish the less value for your money
suck on dis

silver oak
#

...cussion

tribal merlin
#

of course. What did I say?
feelspkman

summer kindle
#

i will absorb the speedruns

tribal merlin
vivid belfry
#

on a non-shitpost note, I don't think playtime is a good metric for qualifying an experience

#

time spent in a metroidvania wandering around and hitting dead-ends is not as valuable as time spent fighting bosses and exploring new areas

#

that's why HK is good, it drastically reduces the amount of time you fuck around without knowing where to go

tribal merlin
#

playtime is my rule of thumb for minimum value for money. A game has to at least get me through as many hours as it cost bucks

vivid belfry
#

compared to something like super metroid or circle of hte moon

tribal merlin
#

otherwise I'm getting scammed

vivid belfry
#

binding of isaac confirmed biggest ripoff of all time

coarse leaf
fallow rock
#

FELLAS THIS HAS COMING FOR A LONG TIME AND I PICKED THIS CHANNEL FOR THIS ONE PURPOSE TO MAKE SOMETHING FUNNY THAT WILL RIVAL HOLLLOW KNIGHT MEMES SUBREDDIT AND WILL PLACE US SUPREME LEADERS OF THE HK MEMES LORDS AND ALL THAT GIT GUD SHIT can we make a original meme for hk memes because those people don`t know whats funny anymore after so many "me when BEANS"

vague heath
#

silknever

pallid flare
fallow rock
#

i`m not typing that mess back

pallid flare
#

Copy & Paste

silver oak
#

Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V

tribal merlin
#

ctrl-c,ctrl-v,alt-f4

silver oak
#

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

iron spear
silver oak
#

You gotta add in "Community Leader" or smthn

iron spear
#

Holy shit yes

silver oak
#

idk if that would fit

fallow rock
#

graig do you really have 3 kids

tribal merlin
#

he only has 2, TC members are only allowed a number of kids equal to the games they've worked on

iron spear
#

Ahhh it's perfect

fallow rock
#

oh

silver oak
#

My name is red now?
I am Team Cherry?????

iron spear
#

What if I've worked on more than Two TC games?? yeeshaw

silver oak
#

Return to Booty Grotto

coarse leaf
pallid flare
#

we all want this and you know it graig

fallow rock
chilly nexus
#

Graig leads this community like no other

tribal merlin
#

hollow knight π

iron spear
#

Hollow Knight Ex plus Alpha 2.5 -final edition-

coarse leaf
#

Hollow knight alyx

fallow rock
#

HOLLOW KNIGHT AUTO IIV SAND ANDRAS

pallid flare
#

final remix

silver oak
#

Hollow Fantasy XII

iron spear
#

VR hollow Knight. You play a vessel than gets yeeted into the void by the PK

silver oak
#

And that's the whole game
60 dollars

chilly nexus
iron spear
#

Wouldn't it be cool if Hornet and lace are sisters

#

Born to the same mother.

coarse leaf
silver oak
#

The fanart you posted a few weeks ago says otherwise

iron spear
#

And then the next TC game you play as lace and her rival is again a half sibling and so forth

silver oak
#

Hollow hearts: chain of siblings

fallow rock
iron spear
#

It's siblings all the way down

#

And then Hornet gets stuck in a washing machine

#

And sometimes gotta help her get out

tribal merlin
#

if you halve the siblings each game we get less sibling for our money feelspkman

covert pond
iron spear
#

Hornet and 6 watcher Knight standing behind her

silver oak
#

Excuse me, it’s washer Knights

charred pulsar
covert pond
silver oak
#

Oh shit
EVERYONE RUN

iron spear
#

Simo can you ban these guys all talking lewd stuff

charred pulsar
#

Yeah anytime man

tribal merlin
charred pulsar
#

Will work on it now

tribal merlin
#

best admin 👀 👍

chilly nexus
#

wait i said nothing lewd, i'm watching my sis play animal crossing

silver oak
#

One of these days some new person will show up while simo is “banning” people and think he’s being serious

fallow rock
#

oh god i don`t want to get ban this sever is amazing i don't want spend my time on the paper plane discord]

silver oak
#

[

harsh jewel
harsh jewel
silver oak
fallow rock
#

and if you ask the paperplane discord sever is a thats about transformers and just do other stupid mess

coarse leaf
harsh jewel
fallow rock
#

it`s funny and things get stupid for a while until somebody post about go bots

fallow rock
#

also the mods on this sever are actual cool

iron spear
#

I feel bad for anyone taking anything said in this channel as serious

pallid flare
#

what

chilly nexus
#

dude why are you taking pity on people, that bothers me, r u fr?

tribal merlin
serene chasm
#

everything here is super cereal

covert pond
iron spear
#

Yeah I don't actually feel bad

pallid flare
#

oh I was actually getting worried

iron spear
#

But as community leader I have to pretend to

silver oak
#

But in reality it's funny

covert pond
#

Big respec

fallow rock
#

also the mods on that sever don`t do anything but for this sever they actual interact with you

trim estuary
chilly nexus
#

you are always loved graig

covert pond
#

Graig is best boi

coarse leaf
trim estuary
#

why spinning fast food?

covert pond
#

We do need this game tho, the crowd is antsy

harsh jewel
serene chasm
#

carmelitablush
Did someone say antsy?

trim estuary
fallow rock
silver oak
trim estuary
covert pond
#

I did a bad, oops

pallid flare
#

are you alright

serene chasm
#

suck

marsh ibex
#

enough with the shitposting

#

understandable

silver oak
#

dude don't push your luck

serene chasm
#

What would Pharloom's sports team be called?

fallow rock
charred pulsar
#

wow joker anti-fun

fallow rock
#

LACERS BELLS

charred pulsar
#

cringe

marsh ibex
#

yeah

trim estuary
silver oak
marsh ibex
#

mhm

fallow rock
# charred pulsar cringe

this one of the rare seniro where a mod is talking with people and making a lot of good friends

trim estuary
#

someones getting amogused

silver oak
naive flax
#

No

trim estuary
#

french wai

pallid flare
#

joker can you like

proud vale
#

Perhaps the community leader can handle this zotewheeze

coarse leaf
iron spear
#

Couldn't Dr Manhattan have just wiped his memory of the truth lol didn't need to obliterate him

charred pulsar
#

and ring the bell

proud vale
pallid flare
#

and don't forget to share the video

opaque sigil
#

Doctor Manhattan doesn't give a shit though

chilly nexus
#

My stats say only 15% of you are subscribed

iron spear
#

I don't want to get a real job so can you guys PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE subscribe

proud vale
#

Will silksong be like what super Mario 2 was to super mario bros? zote

chilly nexus
iron spear
#

Hey man my job is actually really hard. Some days I even have to go into TC office and hang out with my friends

silver oak
#

Graig | Professional Player

proud vale
#

I assume you also partake in the croissants?

silver oak
#

The grind is real

tribal merlin
#

croissants filled with spaghetti huntresschef

iron spear
#

You guys have bought me lunch so many times

harsh jewel
iron spear
#

Thanks and keep buying the game ffs

silver oak
proud vale
#

Glad we can fuel your Taco Bell dependencies

silver oak
#

But thank you for appreciating us grublove

proud vale
#

We should just use lunches as a new universal currency

potent plover
coarse leaf
silver oak
potent plover
silver oak
#

"I'll pay you 2 chickens for that axe" and then you pull out 2 live chickens from your pocket and slap them on the table

proud vale
#

Graig changes economics forever circa 2021

burnt topaz
proud vale
burnt topaz
burnt topaz
#

this is also the second time someones made a fat joke to me

coarse leaf
coarse leaf
burnt topaz
#

I am 5 foot, so a short greek god

silver oak
#

Hephaestus

harsh jewel
#

Bardoon > Any other NPC

potent plover
marsh ibex
#

Hephaestus was a gifted smith, but he was also kind of a jerk

high hedge
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To be Hephaestus you also need a receding hairline

harsh jewel
high hedge
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Hornet is still an npc

potent plover
harsh jewel
potent plover
burnt topaz
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what about the knight though

marsh ibex
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They are not playable

high hedge
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That is the player character

harsh jewel
marsh ibex
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we play as ourselves

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controlling the knight

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The knight has no agency and therefore does not exist lore wise

burnt topaz
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i know, i was asking in terms of whether bardoon was better than the knight specifically

high hedge
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So confusing

marsh ibex
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if that was confusing, good

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because I pulled that all out of my ass

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that is completely untrue

silver oak
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Joker, you're not in lore anymore

marsh ibex
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you’ve been trollege

high hedge
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Wow

silver oak
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I'm not a gnelf
I'm not a gnoblin

high hedge
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My life is no longer a lie

harsh jewel
potent plover
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well we can all agree that hornet is ___

pallid flare
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we all have been gnomed

burnt topaz
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true

pallid flare
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hornet is the most of all time

high hedge
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Horney

silver oak
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I agree, Hornet really is one of the characters of all time

harsh jewel
burnt topaz
potent plover
harsh jewel
high hedge
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These are all proper reactions

potent plover
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If Cornifer is Corny then Hornet

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Yeah, That.

harsh jewel
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yep

high hedge
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Hornet puts the horn in horney, but that’s just a theory

high hedge
potent plover
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?

burnt topaz
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out of web

harsh jewel
high hedge
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Where does her silk come from?

burnt topaz
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huh?

marsh ibex
potent plover
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Where is this going?

high hedge
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Makes sense

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I also store Spider Silk in my shell

harsh jewel
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Crickets

potent plover
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oh you just mean this channel is dead

pallid flare
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ched lol

serene chasm
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dammit mods. I wanted the free nitro

proud vale
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What’s everyone’s favourite type of weather, and why?

high hedge
high hedge
proud vale
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Damn I wish I got snow around Christmas grubsad

high hedge
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It’s great for a Christmas aesthetic, but it can be pretty annoying most of the time

proud vale
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True but the feeling of being a little too cold and warm is a little better than being a bit too hot and then cool IMO

high hedge
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Fair, though I do like an ice cream on a hot day

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Or a slushy. Just something cool

proud vale
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True a slurpee on a blazing hot day does hit the spot