sk-discussion

[frank marten]

anyway how you doing ttaco?

[haughty brook]

Next time someome says they will "pay" an artist with exposure, just hire a hitman for the lazy hack.

[marsh ibex]

horrible

sorry i’m on my alt brb

[minor vapor]

the plurality of ttaco

[pallid flare]

why do games cost anything the devs are rich anyway

[frank marten]

cuz greed, and so the rich get richer

[pallid flare]

greedy capitalists smh

[frank marten]

the bourgeoisie should rise up, and go against EA and FIFA 2022

[copper knot]

can i commission you to make a game ill pay you with exposure with my 16 followers instagram account

[frank marten]

put like five 0s after that and maybe

[crisp blaze]

thats my job dungo

[marsh ibex]

rood

[cerulean sable]

damn right

[cerulean sable]

high five me

[marsh ibex]

no

[crisp blaze]

high five me

[pallid flare]

no

[crisp blaze]

honestly whats the point of now stealth alts now considering you can change your discord identity on each servers now

[formal karma]

you can still click on someone to see who they really are, can't you?

as long as you knew that i was ozlin#whateverwhatever

[marsh ibex]

wow this harteschalervier person is so cool

[crisp blaze]

doesnt it change the actual identity too? or it doesnt

[marsh ibex]

i should give them a hug

[formal karma]

if it did, that would be hell for moderation

[crisp blaze]

try me joker ill kick u in the shins 🥺

[crisp blaze]

ok good point

[marsh ibex]

🫂

[charred pulsar]

Hornet watch out Lace has a gun!

[mystic path]

what does ss stand for

[coarse leaf]

Sad song

[coarse leaf]

Songsilk

[mystic path]

oh

XD

[tawdry valley]

It’s fine she unlocked the parry

[charred pulsar]

Oh phew

[frank marten]

wait

so... you can parry this you filthy casual

YOU BI... not funny

gonna send that to my friend

[languid linden]

Knew it

[frank marten]

yea, he gave us up again

[trim estuary]

hkpwsndirkw

nvm

[marsh ibex]

@tough pagoda let’s not do that

[tough pagoda]

sory

[haughty brook]

So...there was a new HK update, I think?

[trim estuary]

Yeah new beta patch

Surely this means silk-

[haughty brook]

-soul?

[trim estuary]

Silksoul in hollow knight voidheart?????

[uncut citrus]

uhh i dont know if this is the place for that but its the only Silksong channel that i know so here i stitched together the demo deep docks, if i have the time ill maybe remove all the UIs but that took long enough for now

(i hope it will be in good quality, it should be but idk if discord will be able to load it so easily)

[signal crag]

Not loading for me atm

[opaque sigil]

Looks good. My discord didn't manage to load it but you can do the "open original"

[uncut citrus]

there way too much background and foreground effect tho the color change so much depending on where you are in a room so you can very easily see where it was cut

[opaque sigil]

Well, that's not a problem, really. It just is what it is

[silver oak]

I’ll take Tammo’s word for it

Idk why it’s not loading for anyone

[opaque sigil]

Would you mind if I posted a lower quality version of it for others?

[subtle echo]

Hello #hk-general

How are you doing today?

[silver oak]

Oh is it too high quality

[uncut citrus]

aight ill try

[opaque sigil]

Oh, I was offering to do it

[subtle echo]

This isn't #sk-discussion this is #hk-general shut up.

[silver oak]

It’s always a good day here on #hk-discussion

[opaque sigil]

I just didn't want to repost it without consent

[uncut citrus]

its literally 99.8Mb on the 100 the sevrer allows so yeah

[subtle echo]

there is no way this is #sk-discussion

because this is. #hk-general

[shell yacht]

[shell yacht]

pog

[opaque sigil]

(Reevers' map)

[pallid flare]

so many hornets

[shell yacht]

that other one wouldnt load

@uncut citrus

[silver oak]

Good map

[subtle echo]

yayyy more ss news

examine

[signal crag]

great map, nice

[subtle echo]

noice. vry noice

vrej

[opaque sigil]

There was a great one for MG a while ago but afaik there hasn't been one for DD, at least not one with the labels and everything

[uncut citrus]

oh well

[silver oak]

…are you role playing as a person from #hk-general ?

[subtle echo]

noooooooooo

[uncut citrus]

yes i saw this one, i tried looking for a Deep docks one but coudnt find any so i made my own

[signal crag]

This one Tammo?

[opaque sigil]

Yeah

[silver oak]

Yeah that one's gone around a few times

[trim estuary]

Nice

[opaque sigil]

The MG one seems to be a bit smoother, but that's probably because of the lighting being more consistent

And a more static background, DD has a bunch of flowing lava

[uncut citrus]

and removing the UI is annoying :I

[trim estuary]

How about using the lava to get rid of the UI

So you don’t have to worry about lava or UI

[opaque sigil]

With these maps, I like how you can trace Hornet's journey through the area

[coarse leaf]

looks good, how long did this take?

[uncut citrus]

i wonder why the it shows 5 hp before the mob and 4 after the mob

[trim estuary]

They went around and got the mask I think

See the door on the right
I think that’s where the mask shard is

[opaque sigil]

Well it can be a bit wonky if Hornet passes through the same area multiple times, which happens in DD but not really in MG

[shy kiln]

In SS, can you only heal if you have the circular thing full?

[opaque sigil]

Well, the circular thing lights up if you have enough silk to heal and are missing masks

[trim estuary]

It’s a loom now but yeah

[opaque sigil]

The thing you need to fill is the silk spool (until capacity increases, presumably)

[uncut citrus]

you can see the empty mask holder she just got hit that was kinda a joke

[trim estuary]

Oh I’m blind

[opaque sigil]

Same ig

[shy kiln]

So you don’t need to fill it up all the way; ok thanks

[opaque sigil]

Well, at first you do

Your initial spool capacity is the same as the amount of silk you need to heal

[shy kiln]

Or, 3 masks?

[opaque sigil]

You need the full starting spool to heal 3 masks, you can heal 1-2 masks at once also but it costs the same

[shy kiln]

So its worth to lose 3 masks first then heal

[opaque sigil]

Yeah, you wouldn't want to bind when you're missing less than 3 masks, otherwise it'd be a waste of valuable silk

[uncut citrus]

actually im really not sure but i think getting the screens was like maybe one or two hours but getting them together took way more time, maybe like 6? then the removal of some UI and the little mario at the bottom of the Nintendo video took a good 2-3h

[opaque sigil]

I didn't even think about that mario, it's bad enough cutting him out of screenshots individually

[sturdy spoke]

They just giving us maps now? We gonna know everything abt it before it even comes out.

[opaque sigil]

It's composed with screenshots of the demo footage

[sturdy spoke]

Ah

[uncut citrus]

its the demo so its gonna be diffrent

[sturdy spoke]

I see now

[sturdy spoke]

true

[uncut citrus]

like maybe this part of the map will stay the same but deep docks cant be this small

[opaque sigil]

Probably, those mask shards are way too easy, would make more sense to have rosary strings there or smth

[haughty brook]

Also a reminder that the map could change in stucture/art upon release in comparison with the two years demo.

[uncut citrus]

or item material

they didnt do anythng about items but the shards in the demo

[sturdy spoke]

I hope leakers don't ruin everything about the game like usual

[uncut citrus]

but in the full game they gonna be there

[shy kiln]

Its been 2 years since the demo??? God Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!

[opaque sigil]

Well, I doubt there'll be too many item materials, I think shell shards will probably be all we need for red tools, if only because making the player manage a ton of different resources to use tools would be a pain

[uncut citrus]

to craft them i mean

[opaque sigil]

Oh, then yeah, maybe, but those seem like they would also be pretty significant upgrades, although considering Forge-Daughter's presence I could see having one or two around

HK also kind of had a format for mask shards, they weren't usually literally just sitting there floating in an otherwise nondescript space, they had those plinths

Just having SS mask shards floating there like that seems off

[uncut citrus]

that room kinda had like 5-6 waves of 2-3 enemies so i mean its you got a bit of challenge, but i actually think think may be a craft component because you unlock the "Mask shard" at the same time you unlock Forge daughter when you beat the waves

[opaque sigil]

That's a good point

[uncut citrus]

welp tomorrow ill try to polish it a bit more but it's gonna take more than that to actually look like its not screens put together

[glossy gazelle]

You expect people to have restraint?

[haughty brook]

Dude, people will always leak something that is pretty hyped up

[frank marten]

they seek out hyped things to leak them

[opaque sigil]

I mean considering the size of SS's team leaks are unlikely

[glossy gazelle]

I’m sure that there will be a rule against that in the server at least

[frank marten]

no spoilers for the first week maybe

[opaque sigil]

Spoilers aren't leaks

[frank marten]

fair but i hope thats a rule

[trim estuary]

I will put all of the sprites on Reddit 20 minutes after release

[opaque sigil]

I mean #sk-discussion is obviously going to allow spoilers, HK channels and #ss-help may have rules regarding spoilers, as will #off-topic

[frank marten]

also fair

[trim estuary]

No silksong in #hk-general insert 1984 gif

[hazy lark]

I'm sure people will finish the game in 10 hours and not take the time to enjoy

[opaque sigil]

Probably

If it's possible, that is

I imagine you'd need to be fairly lucky to beat it on a first run in 10 hours

[glossy gazelle]

Im gonna be that one guy, who completes every possible quest line

[frank mist]

They’ll probably just make another channel called Silksong-spoilers or Silksong-no-spoilers

[trim estuary]

Why not be the guy that 100%s the game

[hazy lark]

me 2

[frank mist]

I hope there’s a NG+ feature

[opaque sigil]

What would that even entail

[glossy gazelle]

And also talks to every single npc

[trim estuary]

A lot of sequence breaking

[hazy lark]

Like silk soul? similar to steel soul

[tawdry valley]

Ari slips on a banana and accidentally hits the big red button labeled “announce Silksong release date”

[trim estuary]

Silksoul

[hazy lark]

yea yea

[frank mist]

Nah there’ll be that but NG+ is different

[tawdry valley]

Silksoul has been announced; it will likely be a gamemode for a save; not a NG+

[trim estuary]

Silksoul could be NG+

[frank mist]

Silksoul is it’s own feature doesn’t seem like it would be NG+

[tawdry valley]

NG+ in a videogame that focuses on the acquisition of new abilities as progression doesn’t necessarily work as well

[opaque sigil]

Playthrough 2 is NG+, since you know the bosses, abilities, layout, etc

[shy kiln]

Kinda, tbh

[frank mist]

I was thinking they let you keep health/damage/tools and have you unlock the sequence breaking upgrades again

[trim estuary]

I’m still hoping Silksoul is like terraria’s expert mode

[opaque sigil]

That's not exactly an engaging way to modify the game

[tawdry valley]

So you get to fight the early game bosses with endgame gear.

[frank mist]

Yeah but their health is buffed obviously

[hazy lark]

early bosses with more moves

[tawdry valley]

Like you would be able to in say; a bossrush gamemode.

[opaque sigil]

So it evens out and there's no difference

[trim estuary]

Or all bosses and some enemies get more moves

[hazy lark]

and move faster

[shy kiln]

Is that all even possible?

[tawdry valley]

What is the point of buffing out all HP to be endgame level. You are describing a subtraction of progression to justify remixed bosses

Remixed bosses can exist in a setting that isn’t NG+; namely godhome.

[opaque sigil]

Silksoul mode is supposedly a "unique" experience from normal mode so maybe

[frank mist]

I guess I would just prefer to play the game with buffed enemies instead of just do all the bosses

[opaque sigil]

One way TC could create a unique and challenging experience is by making enemies more aggressive or giving them more attacks

[frank mist]

I mean Sekiro has a bunch of late game abilities that it takes away in NG+ but it lets you keep your tools which lets you try out early stages with new approaches

[tawdry valley]

I don’t blame you; but NG+ isnt the best way to do that. Consider a challenge mode/hard mode that actually changes aspects of the game or main mechanics

[shy kiln]

I think in Horizon: Zero Dawn, the NG+ increases the health of the different enemies

[opaque sigil]

(which is what it sounds like silk soul mode is)

[trim estuary]

Ok what if Silksoul be
-some new more powerful tools
-buffed enemy health
-some enemies get more moves
-all bosses get new attacks
-ambushes get more powerful enemies instead of the regular enemies

[tawdry valley]

A drastic enough mechanism justifies letting players keep their gear; except when the gear the players get is also used to unlock the games areas

[opaque sigil]

Challenge Silk Soul mode! Once you conquer the game, test your skills in an all-new mode that spins the game into a unique, challenging experience.
For context, this is what TC has said about Silk Soul

[tawdry valley]

Which is nearly all of what a metroidvania mechanically rewards the player

[tawdry valley]

Here’s hoping

[shy kiln]

Yarr, I think it will be a different kind of NG+

[opaque sigil]

I just hope that whatever unique changes exist are accessible outside of a permadeath mode, it'd be a bit of a bummer if you can't have them without one

[trim estuary]

[trim estuary]

Are you a pirate

[shy kiln]

Yarr

[tawdry valley]

NG+ =/= harder funner version of the game

[opaque sigil]

[hazy lark]

lmao

[trim estuary]

Thats not how snailing works

[tawdry valley]

NG+ is a way to empower an undermined player.

[shy kiln]

will probably just revamp some stuff in NG+ I guess

[tawdry valley]

NG+ means keep abilities

[opaque sigil]

There may not be anything that could strictly be considered a "new game plus" mode

[shy kiln]

Ok, but my about me says something else

[tawdry valley]

Hardmode means different version of the game

Keeping abilities can’t work in a game about getting abilities

Do you understand

[trim estuary]

I can’t read it on mobile so it doesn’t count for me 😎

[shy kiln]

You can read it on mobile

[hazy lark]

If NG+ will really exist i would be happy if you could open like a area in the game you can only open in NG+ with unique enemis and a couple bosses

[trim estuary]

Where

[opaque sigil]

The only thing that could really carry over without screwing things up that I can think of would be map progress, bestiary progress, and maybe rosaries, but those are just silly to have an entire NG+ mode for

[shy kiln]

Ok fine

[shy kiln]

What if it’s like Steel Soul mode but a bit more stuff is added

[opaque sigil]

Then that isn't a NG+

[shy kiln]

Yarr, it isn’t

[frank marten]

if it adds to the game after you beat it, to me thats ng+

[shy kiln]

Wait, sorry wrong server

[opaque sigil]

NG+ implies some aspect of the previous save file is carried over

[frank marten]

i mean snkrx has ng+ but it just adds a new segment to your snake, nothing gets carried over. it is a roguelike technically so take it as you will

adds max segments sorry

[opaque sigil]

Then it sounds like they're not using the term in a manner consistent with its general usage

[shy kiln]

What if it isn’t NG+

[frank marten]

SS+ ( snake segment )

[opaque sigil]

What if what isn't NG+

[glossy gazelle]

I think Silk Soul will be the harder experience

[opaque sigil]

Challenge Silk Soul mode! Once you conquer the game, test your skills in an all-new mode that spins the game into a unique, challenging experience.
Probably

[shell yacht]

just doubles every enemy and their speed

[shy stirrup]

Maybe something like botw master mode

[trim estuary]

Every second the enemies increase their speed by 0.0001%
So in an hour they would be 1/3 faster

[shy stirrup]

Changes enemy positions

More damage

More health, and maybe different items

No perma death

[opaque sigil]

Hopefully no permadeath

[trim estuary]

If there is perma death it should be a different mode

[opaque sigil]

Or at least optional in some capacity

Really, there's no need for a built-in permadeath mode, that sort of thing could be self-enforced

Not even for achievements, the game could just track whether you've died in the playthrough

[shell yacht]

permadeath where she unravels into silk

[fiery coral]

That'd be horrifying

[frank marten]

maybe you get back with 1 mask and have to kill the enemy that killed you to keep going, otherwise ded

[fiery coral]

parts of her body just loosen and fall away and eventually she becomes no more than a pile of silk strands

[trim estuary]

Unraveled 3

[coarse leaf]

there isnt a single hollow knight fan that has a problem with playing as hornet right...?

[pallid flare]

there are some for some reason

[coarse leaf]

the fuck, hornet is both hot as fuck and cool af, hornet >>>> the knight

[cunning geode]

🤨

[opaque sigil]

Never look at steam discussion boards, preserve that innocence

[coarse leaf]

PLEASE SHOW ME

[cerulean sable]

yikes

[fiery coral]

[supple jungle]

i think the ending of silksong has been spoilered to us (i spoilered it just to be safe)

[cunning geode]

oh no Silksong becomes spider-hornet-woman

[opaque sigil]

Hornet void joke ig

[cunning geode]

with great power comes great responsibility

[spare elbow]

Oh boy glow in the dark mask skin

[coarse leaf]

does team cherry have like an office where they work

[supple jungle]

yeah

[cunning geode]

Why do you ask

[spare elbow]

In my mental image team cherry work in a giant cherry shaped office

[supple jungle]

[coarse leaf]

im in adelaide too, i might try find them and leave a box of cherries outside

[cunning geode]

hmmm maybe don’t

[supple jungle]

and maybe a note lol

[coarse leaf]

ill say its from an oblobble

[cunning geode]

that’s a bit creepy don’t you agree

[spare elbow]

Why does this remind me of the aggressive pineapple posts I saw around the Internet about leaving pineapples near people's homes

[coarse leaf]

what 💀

[coarse leaf]

yes i wont actually do it but it would be funny

[spare elbow]

I wouldn't spook TC they may not see it as a joke

[agile herald]

Honet voyd

[noble timber]

is silksong out yet?

[tall hinge]

nope

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[noble timber]

thx

[stoic path]

Quick question, which bug is Lace supposed to be?

[cunning geode]

A lacebug perhaps

[tall hinge]

blasphemy

[cunning geode]

But they don’t have to be any real arthropod

[tall hinge]

yeah the vessels and hornet arent really based on a real life bug

come to think of it, most main characters arent based off of bugs in the HK universe

[cunning geode]

yeah

just “bugs” really

[tall hinge]

smol

[stoic path]

Yeah, most bugs in HK doesn't seem to correspond to any real creatures

[glossy gazelle]

See: mossbag bug video

[twilit jetty]

Is ss released at the same time for everyone or is the switch gonna get it like a year after

[tawdry valley]

Bugs in the hollow knight universe are exclusively inspired by real world insects. This inspiration usually mostly extends to physical appearance.

Take the beehive for example; filled with normal black and yellow stripped bees that also happen to read/write books and turn themselves inside out.

[twilit jetty]

Ok then...

[tawdry valley]

Switch release and PC will release will be released at the same time

[twilit jetty]

Epic

[tawdry valley]

A console port release is almost certainly going to happen; and is likely not confirmed for legal reasons.

[twilit jetty]

Thanks

[trim estuary]

Switch and PC get it first and then the rest of the consoles will get it later

[twilit jetty]

Nice

[subtle umbra]

Nice

[autumn oak]

niiiiiccee

[coarse leaf]

<@&283547423706447872>

[nimble steppe]

<@&283547423706447872>

Thank you mods

[glossy gazelle]

Please don’t chain

[coarse leaf]

Day 694207281 of holding by breath until SS releases

[pallid flare]

quite comedic

[coarse leaf]

Fr

[pallid flare]

yes. I almost laughed

[summer kindle]

i wanted to make a joke but it hasn't been 5 years yet

[coarse leaf]

What was the joke tho

[summer kindle]

it won't be funny

[opaque sigil]

Would it be funny even if it had been five years

[summer kindle]

no

[opaque sigil]

So what's the difference

[summer kindle]

it would make more sense

[shell yacht]

youre in ss disc

nothing makes sense

[trim estuary]

Every joke is funny here!

[summer kindle]

oh right!!!! forgor

guys what if silksong has a boss that's just a human trying to kill hornet with a glass

[shell yacht]

[summer kindle]

you have to attack the hand until it stops trying to squish you

[shell yacht]

i thought this was your joke

[opaque sigil]

Wait it isn't?

Humans don't exist so that can't happen ig

[tulip stratus]

Hollow Knight's world is actually thousands of years after humanity died as bugs started to evolve so literally just Splatoon but bugs s/

[nimble radish]

why a glass

[summer kindle]

why not a glass

[uncut citrus]

a glass of milk

[summer kindle]

a glass of void

[uncut citrus]

thats just a vessel

[summer kindle]

fair

[daring loom]

heres a joke: Imagine silksong came out

[pallid flare]

haha

[coarse leaf]

ha

[coarse leaf]

Thats not a joke its a tragedy

[glossy gazelle]

Yeah Silknever is always hilarious right?

Here’s a better joke: SS being a prequel

[glass vigil]

Who knows bruv, maybe that’s their way of making another game without having to worry about all canon endings and hornet dying? If that makes sense

Jk

[mellow quarry]

wait what happened

[opaque sigil]

Probably a nitro scam

[nimble steppe]

Just a nitro scam

[opaque sigil]

It's always a nitro scam these days

Plus whatever it was it doesn't merit pinging somebody an hour and a half later to ask about it

[glass vigil]

What’s a nitro scam

[opaque sigil]

Fake free nitro links

[mellow quarry]

ah.

[mortal sage]

ayo guys do we have any idea if SS is gonna be a heavier game than HK?

[opaque sigil]

In what regard

[mortal sage]

I mean if it's gonna be more demanding to run on a pc

like i got an old ass laptop that can run HK is it gonna explode when i try to run SS?

[nimble radish]

not much I should think

[mortal sage]

ight nice

tyty

[opaque sigil]

@blazing mason

Gibson explains that starting with the clean slate of an entirely new kingdom with its own lore and new characters is another way in which Silksong is designed to be “a perfect jumping-on point for new players. We’re trying to be really, really mindful that we want this to be a game that new people can come into, and experience as their first Hollow Knight game
They aren't going to continue off of EtV

And nothing in EtV would have any effect on Pharloom anyways

[coarse leaf]

so did you beat radiance then?

[blazing mason]

Unless, we get the only connection in an extension meant for those who have played the original game.

[coarse leaf]

nice

[opaque sigil]

That would hardly be a perfect jumping on point for new players

[coarse leaf]

i still haven't

[blazing mason]

No, it's an ending. Meant to take the code from the original game.

[opaque sigil]

That's ridiculous

[summer kindle]

w h a t

[opaque sigil]

The notion of SS using HK save data is just inane

[trim estuary]

Get unstuck then

[pallid flare]

doing that would be quite cool ngl

[opaque sigil]

What would it achieve

[pallid flare]

depending on how much it effects of course

[trim estuary]

And one day

[opaque sigil]

And HK saves are going to have multiple associated endings and multiple files

[blazing mason]

Give closure to the cliffhanger. And give the real epilogue for SS.

[opaque sigil]

You can't take a HK save and say "oh it was this ending" because that's not how the game works

[blazing mason]

Only those that have the achievement for ETV.

You are too negative.

[opaque sigil]

And there's still no reason for them to do any of this in a narratively independent game

[blazing mason]

It will be independed... until we reach a point in which it could link it with what we have.

[opaque sigil]

Except it won't, unless TC makes up some contrived bs to incorporate stuff from EtV which would just be bad writing

[blazing mason]

Leaving a cliffhanger unanswered is bad writing.

[opaque sigil]

No it isn't

[summer kindle]

i mean it kind of is

[pallid flare]

sometimes it isn't

[opaque sigil]

Having an ending that leaves some open questions isn't bad writing

[blazing mason]

You must love unfinished book series then.

[opaque sigil]

HK isn't unfinished

[summer kindle]

||but like 99% of the lore in|| rain world ||l;eaves a lot unanswered i think||

[pallid flare]

especially if you have to answer it with a pretty cheap plot device in the next game (seal breaking bugs)

[opaque sigil]

EtV isn't even really a cliffhanger if you give it a second's thought

[pallid flare]

which ending was that again

[opaque sigil]

Embrace the Void

[summer kindle]

embrace the void... shit

[pallid flare]

how'd you get that one

[opaque sigil]

Godhome ending is EtV

[summer kindle]

was embrace the void the pantheon one or the normal rad one
oh ok

[nimble radish]

goteherd

[coarse leaf]

christopher nolan:

[tawdry valley]

Rainworld lore is literally almost only shit that procures questions

[nimble radish]

rainworld... lore?

[tawdry valley]

The saving grace is that there’s a lot of it; and what is actually answered so really really cool

[tawdry valley]

“”””””””lore”””””””””

[uncut citrus]

here what the steam silksong page says

[opaque sigil]

That may just be a placeholder, it's the same as the HK system requirements

[mortal sage]

welp let's hope it's not a placeholder

[opaque sigil]

Even if it is, I doubt it'll be much higher, if at all

[drowsy pike]

I doubt it will change much

[runic adder]

I’m gonna guess it’ll take up more storage but I think it’ll largely stay the same besides that

[mortal sage]

Ye sounds abt right

[brittle garnet]

What are y'all's theories on why HK is getting updated?

[nimble radish]

it's a buggy mess

[brittle garnet]

(this is just for fun speculation, don't take too seriously)

[opaque sigil]

Not related to SS, probably

[brittle garnet]

Yeah, it was a buggy mess before as well, but it's only getting updated as of this year.

Coincidentally, we also haven't gotten any news since it started getting updated.

[runic adder]

I’m gonna guess that what they’re working on right now with SS allows for more time to update the game

[brittle garnet]

Yeah that's what I think as well.

Or that they're encountering the same bugs in SS as in HK and fixing them in both games.

[runic adder]

That could make sense for some of the bugs, probably not all though

[brittle garnet]

Hmm, that's true.

[runic adder]

Like aspids spitting right after being broken out of jars for an example

[coarse leaf]

possibly less programming work on ss rn, so maybe their programmer is doing work on hk

[brittle garnet]

Although I'm guessing that SS will reuse a lot of code from HK, so bugs will carry over too if they wanna implement similar systems or mechanics.

[runic adder]

I wouldn’t be surprised if there was just more playtesting too

[tribal merlin]

my personal hypothesis is that there was a code freeze due to testing and the coder got on HK fixes and unity update

cuz it doesn't make sense to continue coding when there's extensive testing going on

[coarse leaf]

wdym testing?

[tribal merlin]

like in playtesting

[signal crag]

they have testers playing the game

[brittle garnet]

Playing the game to find bugs, exploits and balance

[tribal merlin]

yes but that's just "normal" background testing

with a handful of people

[coarse leaf]

of hk? cos there was quite a large gap between the update in 2018 and when they started releasing new patches, why would a code freeze be that long?

[tribal merlin]

no, not of HK. Testing on SS and therefore time to code on HK

[coarse leaf]

ah right gotcha

so most probably they're testing SS right now?

[tribal merlin]

the freeze and test is probably over by now

[brittle garnet]

I wouldn't say most probably, but it makes sense

[tribal merlin]

of course the small testing team is testing regularly with no restrictions on development

but that's not a testing phase

[opaque sigil]

They've probably been testing SS all along

[runic adder]

I think they’re likely done with all the main stuff in the game, most likely it’s just polishing it now

[opaque sigil]

You wouldn't wait until the end to start testing if things work

[tribal merlin]

there's a distinction between "background testing" and a "testing phase"

and yes a testing phase doesn't mean they're close to the finish line

it's just a way to know where you stand

[opaque sigil]

Fair

[tribal merlin]

and what's on your todo list next

[coarse leaf]

it would suggest though that they started the testing phase around the first patch release, so possibly 8 months of testing so far, but thats pretty heavily extrapolated

[tribal merlin]

I wouldn't say it lasted until today

[coarse leaf]

ah yh

[brittle garnet]

I firmly believe that around when EDGE released they should have had most of the game's planned content done

but it's more of an opinion, really

or, a hope

i got the impression from EDGE that there's not a long way to go, but then again some people got the same impression from the trailer so...

[coarse leaf]

I too believe the game's main content is done

[coarse leaf]

Yeah but EDGE was different

[runic adder]

Wdym?

[tribal merlin]

I haven't seen anything that would suggest to me that the main content is done

[brittle garnet]

well, what in your eyes would suggest that, theoretically?

[nimble steppe]

I guess I can understand that. Mostly polish, bugfixing and porting work

[mystic pewter]

I doubt they'll make the base game/required content much longer than hk. I would prefer that actually, so that they can absolutely cram the final product with optional areas/secret bosses (there weren't that many in hk)

for a normal playthrough

[tribal merlin]

them explicitly stating it 🙂

[brittle garnet]

many people believe there is not gonna be any expansions since they aren't limited by time, they can just include everything they want into the base game

[tribal merlin]

I'm not aware of them doing porting work on SS

[mystic pewter]

I mean like areas that are not required to visit at all

[brittle garnet]

oh wait you didn't mean DLCs, you meant optional conten- yeah

yeah i hope there's a lot of that

[mystic pewter]

like ||old yharnam|| in bloodborne or ||great hollow|| in dark souls

[brittle garnet]

that doesn't suggest, that just proves without doubt.

[tribal merlin]

well since I won't be convinced by seeing ingame images then there isn't much left

[brittle garnet]

i expected this to be your answer, but i forgot how I was gonna respond ;P

[mystic pewter]

feb 2022 pls

[brittle garnet]

like
soon, please

imo a Halloween announcement would be very fitting thematically but it's just a dream

[mystic pewter]

how would it fit thematically?

also even if it would make sense don't hold out hope

[brittle garnet]

well with all the themes of Haunting and death in Silksong

[mystic pewter]

haunting yes but death?

[brittle garnet]

ah yeah, the musical motif from Dies Irae, very often used in movies to signify death, is present in Silksong too

[tribal merlin]

nah that's not enough to say it's halloween themed... dark souls and bloodborne would be halloween themed as well then...
something like dead by daylight is far more halloween themed imo

[brittle garnet]

well, it would also kinda mirror the announcement trailer, which was on Valentines Day, on the opposite end of the year

[tribal merlin]

if you fudge your maths enough then I guess it's the opposite end

[mystic pewter]

the opposite of valentines day thematically is valentines day in reality

[brittle garnet]

well, it's like uhh... 16 days off from being a perfect mirror

but it's close enough

[tribal merlin]

uuh... I think halloween is on Oct 31st and Feb 14th is 3.5 months later?

try something in April to get to the opposite end of the year

[brittle garnet]

no, i said on the opposite end of a year. So Feb 14 is the 45th day from the beginning of the year. If you count from the end of the year backwards, Oct 31st is the 62nd

[tribal merlin]

oh it's like mirroring I see

[brittle garnet]

oh, then it's 17 days off

[tribal schooner]

Plus spiders are kinda spookie perfect for holloween

[tribal merlin]

not what's usually understood by "the opposite" on a circle tho

[brittle garnet]

a circle?

[tribal merlin]

yes the months make a circle

[brittle garnet]

oh, you imagined like a circle with quarts

[tribal merlin]

just like the clock

[brittle garnet]

I just visualise months as a line

[tribal merlin]

so the opposite of "10" on the clock (or month Oct) is "4" (or month Apr)

it's obviously a circle since it starts over

[brittle garnet]

I never really thought of it like that, tbh

[tribal merlin]

a line would go on indefinitely and we'd need to invent new month names all the time

which would also be ok but we didn't do that

[brittle garnet]

well, anyways, it probably doesn't mean anything and isn't gonna happen, but it's nice to dream, sometimes

[nimble radish]

wrong channel my dude

[novel shadow]

I thought SS stood for Steel Soul discussion?

[nimble radish]

no it's silksong discussion

[pallid flare]

no silksong

[novel shadow]

Oh, I'll delete it then

[nimble radish]

understandable though, we have like 12 ss acronyms

[tribal merlin]

what's silk song

[pallid flare]

post in #hk-discussion

[upper sigil]

a song made of silk idk

[novel shadow]

I already did but then noticed this channel and posted it here because I thought it fit, I've removed it

[odd plover]

What's the tea fellas

[pallid flare]

it's you

[serene chasm]

green

[odd plover]

The idea of a merciful God is a naive one

[nimble radish]

The idea of my immense intelligence is a brilliant one

[odd plover]

As for silksong though, are there any news regarding the supposed leak (which I don't have much faith in)

[pallid flare]

no. nothing

[odd plover]

I still think it indicates that is going to be released on February

[tribal merlin]

so if the data changed to let's say June 30th 2021, would you then believe the game is already out?

[odd plover]

I just doubt it will be on first, i think it's a placeholder and they don't know which day it will actually be (presumably 14th)

[odd plover]

It doesn't matter what I think, the game will release when it does and I won't think much about the date itself

[opaque sigil]

Placeholder=!estimate

[odd plover]

I just wanna play ss man, and I'm glad they are taking the time they need

[coarse leaf]

do we have any data on how other dates in the system changed, or like a backup of the dataset, if other game dates changed to past dates, it could imply that gfn were just trying to cover it up

[opaque sigil]

You wouldn’t cover it up like that

[tribal merlin]

covering up something that got out on the internet, smart move

[pallid flare]

google "streisand effect"

[coarse leaf]

i mean, if ur using it as evidence, surely its worked?

[tribal merlin]

the "evidence" is that it's not a production database

so what the actual data is doesn't matter

[odd plover]

Will tc keep expanding hk after ss releases or just move out to other projects?

[coarse leaf]

thats also claimed by gfn though after the leak

[tribal merlin]

it's very plausible tho

[upper sigil]

doubt hk is gonna updated

[coarse leaf]

sure, but with only one date changed to go off, theres no real evidence to support it

[odd plover]

I meant the hk ip as a whole

[tribal merlin]

and in the case of TC you would have to believe they're telling nvidia, which they have nothing to do with from a business standpoint, a release date 6 months in advance

[upper sigil]

nobody knows

in the future maybe we will know

[odd plover]

Maybe they will drop a sitcom called hallownest buddies

[opaque sigil]

HK ip might be done after ss

[odd plover]

Yeah I thought so

Unfortunately

[tribal merlin]

maybe they'll come back after doing some other projects

[coarse leaf]

well gfn are the only platform associated with steam's cloud play, its possible dates are used from steam servers who have more reason to have a date

[upper sigil]

something that would be cool is getting a game for each of hollow knight endings but thats unlikely to happen

[mystic pewter]

I think TC will return to hk eventually

for a game or another form of media

[signal crag]

as long they keep making great games, i wouldn't miss Hollow Knight all that much

[opaque sigil]

Because steam dates have served us well in the past

[coarse leaf]

fair enough, but that situation was a one-off mistake though

[opaque sigil]

Was it? Pretty similar

[coarse leaf]

well the date in this situation would have been private, assuming it was connected to steam, theres not rly any reason for them to have a private placeholder date

actually scratch that, i guess there is

[opaque sigil]

The date was intended to be private before, too

[coarse leaf]

well i don't personally believe the theory anyway, i just don't think its as simple as nvidia having absolutely no reason to have a date given they are somewhat connected to steam

[opaque sigil]

Steam wouldn’t have it that early either

[coarse leaf]

yh thats kinda the main flaw in this theory

[tribal merlin]

TC themselves don't get the release date 6 months in advance

[opaque sigil]

And their being connected to steam doesn’t mean the database comes from steam anyways

[tribal merlin]

yeah there's xcom3 on it and that's gonna release like 2025 earliest if it's even gonna be made

[compact scaffold]

is it out yet

😦

[coarse leaf]

Lmao

[pallid flare]

well then update or what do you want from us

[stiff burrow]

Also the new hk patch you can already see in #hk-announcements it's probably that one

[patent field]

i had no idea they were still doing patches lol

[trim estuary]

Fallen Order 2 and Spore 2 when

Hang on does anyone have the full dump of leaked games

[green thicket]

Wonder is we will see Mister Mushroom

[radiant wraith]

Why would you want Spore 2?

[analog lily]

spore 3 when

[serene chasm]

spore 4 when?

[high hedge]

Silksong in the Spore engine

[reef scarab]

Isn’t that kinda the point?

[trim estuary]

Why not?

[radiant wraith]

Well... Spore kinda sucks imo.

Unless they can make it good in a sequel

I'd like that

[sullen fractal]

So are we officially 2022 gang yet???

This wait is hurting my feelings

[stiff burrow]

If you're part of the group who thinks TC will announce the release date only a few weeks before release, it wouldn't make sense to give up completely until a week into December or so

[old berry]

i feel like they gotta say something this year tbh

[warm bone]

I think that the game is still not ready till at least next year

[old berry]

yea

[stiff burrow]

And I think it's at least possible.
We don't really have anything to go on so

[warm bone]

based on dev time, hollow knight took about 4 years, and silksong is currently at about 3

though probably a little bit more now

[analog lily]

yeah, SilkSong probably will take longer than HK, but we're still un-certain about how much of SS has been completed

[stiff burrow]

There's also the argument that HK switched engines mid-dev and SS won't

So again, we have literally no clue and since I believe 2 weeks before release we get the date is likely I'm not counting out anything

[silver oak]

I had a poll somewhere for release date guesses

It's probably outdated now, been at least a month

One of the time periods is nearly up

[stiff burrow]

And I think polls like that are meaningless since it's literally just guessing at random

[sand sequoia]

In feb 2019 they said they had been working on Silksong over a year. So it is almost 4 years now.

[analog lily]

well the results probably wouldn't have changedd much in a month though

[silver oak]

Well it's interesting to see what people's guesses are

[warm bone]

I would like that quote, if you could

[sand sequoia]

Sure. I’ll pull it up.

[silver oak]

It's not to estimate a release date, it's to see how hopeful or pessimistic people are

[stiff burrow]

Most people are predictable. They'll just guess whatever is about half a year away
They'll never say "coming soon" or "years away". At least most won't. That is just what feels reasonable

[silver oak]

Here's the results

[sand sequoia]

https://www.teamcherry.com.au/blog/hollow-knight-silksong-revealed "And Pwoarrrrrrowza! if this one hasn’t been a struggle to keep under-wraps! Hidden behind the scenes, Hornet’s gigantic adventure has been growing (and growing and growing!) for well over a year now, with the very first pieces coming together right after the original PC release of Hollow Knight on Feb 24th 2017." 2nd paragraph

[analog lily]

honestly july-december 2022 is pretty likely

[stiff burrow]

Oh boy what did I just say about half a year away

[silver oak]

You also said "They'll never say "coming soon" or "years away". At least most won't."

[stiff burrow]

Yeah and the majority didn't so

[analog lily]

well this was before the Nivida leak so a bunch more people would think early 2022 now

[silver oak]

Ok I'm not gonna lie you're probably right
But it's still fun to do these polls anyways

I've honestly pushed my guess back since answering that poll

[stiff burrow]

Yeah it's just after a while you just see people moving their predictions so that it's always the same amount of time away.
The people who are weirdly confident about their guess are especially weird

[analog lily]

yeah, you'd think people would learn by now, but no

[silver oak]

Does this look like a place where people learn

[analog lily]

good point

[stiff burrow]

Definitely not.

[analog lily]

less than i though considering half of them are just "Silksong will release when it's ready" which is true though

[proud vale]

Silkbuds ™️ how we doing!?

[knotty sluice]

It's my birthday and I wished for silksong to drop but I'm am sadly disappointed 😞

[analog lily]

talking about a poll and how almost every always thinks SilkSong will come out in the next 6 months

[proud vale]

Happy birthday! Hopefully soon my friend

[silver oak]

I also like this one, sent roughly 5 minutes after the reveal trailer drop

[silver oak]

Happy birthday!

[analog lily]

comedly gold right there

[proud vale]

It’s always 6 months away, no matter the date

[knotty sluice]

Thank you, and I agree with your message, play Outer Wilds!!!

[silver oak]

Yeah that's what someone was saying

[knotty sluice]

Thanks

[silver oak]

I was gonna argue that we're not that predictable and then I found the results and I realized we are

Ded

[analog lily]

I can't find him though, you sure he's dead not left?

[proud vale]

Can I unironically ask what everyone’s favourite food is?

[languid linden]

Hmm

That's a tough one

[analog lily]

hmm, snails probably

[opaque sigil]

I don't really have one tbh

[proud vale]

Seconded, specifically salmon for me though

[languid linden]

Pizza, sushi, fish, and this pasta thing with white sauce and shrimp that my mom makes are all really good

The pasta thing probably has a name

[proud vale]

YOOO shrimp scampi is absolutely goated, I make it weekly

[silver oak]

Mac n cheese
The ultimate comfort food

[stiff burrow]

Turkey for me... also seafood is like my least fav thing lol

[analog lily]

mac n cheese is awful cause it stinks so much (like literally it smells awful)

[proud vale]

I think I’ve only eaten turkey like thrice and I’m in my twenties

[opaque sigil]

What do you put on sandwiches

[silver oak]

how can you have that opinion
like is that even possible

[stiff burrow]

I'm fine with some types of fish, but raw?? No no no

[analog lily]

easy mac and cheese from woolworths , please tell me where to find a good one

[languid linden]

Same but I'm younger than you

[opaque sigil]

How have you people eaten so little turkey

[languid linden]

Idk

[opaque sigil]

Wait Fordo aren't you american, you have no excuse. Thanksgiving???

[silver oak]

Zhancksguvun

[languid linden]

We usually do chicken instead

[opaque sigil]

Then how

[analog lily]

I ate turkey once at this weird dinner, I think they over cooked it

[languid linden]

What does duck taste like?

[silver oak]

chicken

[opaque sigil]

Wait seriously I have turkey like on a daily basis almost how

[stiff burrow]

Turkey is my fav depite not being American wooo

[languid linden]

@ Colonel Duck come here, I have a question

[silver oak]

quak

[analog lily]

wait people eat ducks?

[opaque sigil]

Y'all are weird, turkey's a common food

[silver oak]

Different people eat different things

[languid linden]

Yeah I usually eat steel

[silver oak]

I rarely have turkey, chicken much more often

[analog lily]

well I've never heard of eating duck so ig I eat some pretty bland food

[stiff burrow]

Yeah I also don't eat turkey all the time but I still like it most anyway

[heady iron]

duck good

[opaque sigil]

I've never eaten duck but it's a pretty common thing

[analog lily]

should i look there though?

[silver oak]

Steel is only good when you get it really fresh

[languid linden]

My family eats beef a lot

[stiff burrow]

Chinese restaurants are amazing

[opaque sigil]

Mine doesn't but kosher beef is expensive as hell, so ya know

[silver oak]

Yeah the cow is probably the most consumed livestock animal in my family

[languid linden]

Just now I had this thing that's like a desi version of beef stew

[silver oak]

A good steak is just

[opaque sigil]

You'll get sick of anything if you eat it every day

[analog lily]

that's why i hate pizza

[silver oak]

How can someone hate pizza

[languid linden]

And then during this conversation I was having beef jerky that my dad made

[opaque sigil]

Except rice, rice is pretty chill even if you have it every day

[silver oak]

Good in almost all forms

[analog lily]

well eggs are pretty good, though i find the yoke, too squishy tbh

[silver oak]

Not great, but I'll eat them over a lot of things

[serene chasm]

Eggs are great

[languid linden]

It's a good breakfast, but I prefer cereal

[analog lily]

cause i used to have it so much

[opaque sigil]

Cereal's kinda gross ngl

You take this sugary crap and soak it thoroughly in milk

[silver oak]

I eat cereal because it's easy

[serene chasm]

Yes. Sugary bread milk is awesome

[analog lily]

hmm alright, I never really cook much, just buy awful meals from woolworths like 2 minute noodles

[silver oak]

And I don't really eat sweet cereal, my favorite cereal is corn flakes

[languid linden]

Yeah I usually eat stuff closer to that

It is?

[rapid topaz]

Hi everyone

[opaque sigil]

I haven't eaten cereal in probably like 5 years at least

[analog lily]

i eat cereal with toast basically every day and i've never got sick of it

[silver oak]

All manufactured cereal is sweet a little, in the grand scheme of things corn flakes are one of the least sweet popular cereals

[languid linden]

That's not that much, at least not by my American standards

[serene chasm]

Seriously. Take buttered buns, rip them up, pour some milk over it and some sugar. So good

[opaque sigil]

2.7g is negligible

[languid linden]

There are cereals with 10 times that amount that's common here

[rapid topaz]

They tastes good, although it depends a lot on where you buy them / or if you make your own sushis

[analog lily]

never tried it, so many good food ideas from literal #sk-discussion

[proud vale]

You know not of my power

[opaque sigil]

Some sugar content in the US can get wild, yeah

[silver oak]

A single 12 oz can of any popular soda is like 50 g sugar

[opaque sigil]

Yeah I never drink full sugar sodas

[proud vale]

People want to talk here and I like giving them an excuse to

[rapid topaz]

Yeah that's... true

[serene chasm]

That is really good. I like to also add a slice of romaine

[silver oak]

Ok but here me out
Sprite is really good

[proud vale]

I’ve made sushi a couples times and eventually it turns out right

[languid linden]

Have any of you tried omelettes with ketchup? It's surprisingly good

[opaque sigil]

Diet sprite is probably a thing

[analog lily]

honestly I don't know why but i've never enjoyed eating sushi

[opaque sigil]

Ketchup is sugary tomato paste, no thanks

[rapid topaz]

I don't eat ketchup since 2 years but I love omelettes

[silver oak]

Not for long

[opaque sigil]

Omelettes are good tho

[languid linden]

Also true

[serene chasm]

Sushi is Soo good

[proud vale]

Just inject the sprite, no problem

[opaque sigil]

God I haven't had an omelette in a long time

[analog lily]

Sprite always makes me need to drink like 5 cups of water

[proud vale]

Fav toppings curly?

[silver oak]

When I'm at my laziest I will often eat a slice of bread straight from my fridge

[proud vale]

Guys use this tip: basil and scrambled eggs

[silver oak]

No toppings, no modifications

[opaque sigil]

Nothing wrong with that

[silver oak]

Just a slice of bread shoved into my mouth

[languid linden]

I have some basil growing in my backyard so I might try that soon

I highly dislike cold bread

[analog lily]

Does anyone else also just go to the bakery and buy a ton of bread?

[languid linden]

It's less the temperature and more the texture of it

[serene chasm]

Nothing specific. I like dynamite rolls. I will admit I don't like the kind that has the sea week on the outside. Love sushi but hate seaweed

[coarse leaf]

I'm gone a few hours and this turns into a cooking channel I love y'all

[languid linden]

I can't drive so no

[silver oak]

There's not a bakery in my town, we just get supermarket bread

[analog lily]

me who lives like 3 minutes away from a bakery

[opaque sigil]

Bake it yourself then

[languid linden]

I would do that if not for my digestive issues

[proud vale]

I just knew everyone loves to talk about food from experience

[serene chasm]

But I don't have a stone oven

[silver oak]

Can confirm, have eaten food

[proud vale]

Nooo bbq sauce all the way for eggs and bacon sandwiches

[opaque sigil]

Get one then

[rapid topaz]

anyone here tried "Boeuf Bourguignon" ? It's beef meat with vegetables (mostly carrots) cooked in a pot with some red wine. I love it

[opaque sigil]

And send me the pizza

[analog lily]

aren't stone ovens like a grand?

[silver oak]

Over email?

[languid linden]

Okay I gotta go soon

[silver oak]

If so cc me please

[proud vale]

Have not tried

[opaque sigil]

No, can't eat an email

[languid linden]

My parents sometimes make pizza with tomatoes and basil and it's great

I wish he had conversations like this more

Mayo is good

[analog lily]

what on earth is pepperjack cheese

[opaque sigil]

Spicy cheese

[silver oak]

Orange came in with the food question and activity here increased by like 3x

[vague heath]

sounds good

[languid linden]

It has some spicy peppers seed thingies in it

[opaque sigil]

Pepperjack cheese is amazing

[languid linden]

It's pretty good

[analog lily]

I don't think they sell that at my local shops

[indigo nymph]

It appears youve never had a blt or left over thanks giving inbetween to slicea of bread

[opaque sigil]

I think you meant to say amazing

[rapid topaz]

Mayo made at home is one of the best sauce I have ever eaten. Also, choose the mustard wisely

[analog lily]

what on earth is that
I think we live in different countries cause i've never heard of that

[opaque sigil]

It's a chain

[indigo nymph]

Hollow knight sandwich song

[silver oak]

Someone had an idea for a bot that would go on food blogs and say "Great recipe, but it's soo much better if you replace [ingredient in recipe] with [random ingredient from list of 10,000]. I know it sounds weird, but just trust me."

[analog lily]

that kind of sounds pretty funny tbh

[opaque sigil]

I used to love going to trader joe's as a kid

[silver oak]

So like "Great recipe, but it's soo much better if you replace the strawberries with mayonaise. I know it sounds weird, but just trust me."

[analog lily]

wow, well i still have baked bread so it's fine ig

[serene chasm]

God damn Americans

[opaque sigil]

Hey we may suck overall but TJ's is just good ok

[silver oak]

Recipe: Chocolate covered strawberries

[serene chasm]

Joe is a cool dude

[opaque sigil]

That's the one intelligent thing we've done

[silver oak]

The senate Joe's

[obsidian juniper]

hi everyone
how are you all doing?i see chat has revived

[analog lily]

also I remember hearing about stardew valley recipes being made it real life, they seem ***intresting ***to say the least

[serene chasm]

Trader Joe 4 president

[silver oak]

Food

[rapid topaz]

Unpopular opinion : fast foods aren't always that fast

[analog lily]

food talk turned into Trader joe talk

[opaque sigil]

Or food

[silver oak]

There's a great video about making every recipe from BotW

[opaque sigil]

This one was funny yeah

[analog lily]

I remember as a kid waiting like 45 mintues for a crappy made happy meal

[analog lily]

wow, though they are probably not avaiable in AUS

[obsidian juniper]

i mean unless youre eating a living cow its not gonna move much ||/s||

[opaque sigil]

Where did you hear it, mcdonalds website?

[rapid topaz]

why did they put mcdonalds and burger king everywhere in the world

[opaque sigil]

bc capitalism

[silver oak]

It's in a series called Unraveled on Youtube, it's legitimately one of the best/funniest game series on the platform

[obsidian juniper]

who is trader joe?

[silver oak]

Highly recommend

[analog lily]

idk some food chain

[proud vale]

Chat res chat res

[analog lily]

seems pretty cool, I might check it out

[opaque sigil]

why is trader joe

[serene chasm]

Where is trader joe

[proud vale]

The Frankenstein of chat

[rapid topaz]

does Joe have a mama ?

[obsidian juniper]

orange is jesus because he resurrects the dead chats

[opaque sigil]

whence trader joe

[proud vale]

Hahah yeah true, not a bad price to pay though

[silver oak]

Art thou Trader Joe??!??

[proud vale]

How ya’ll feel about yum cha?

[silver oak]

That's true with all fruit juice

[analog lily]

also has anyone tried raspberry crushed so much it turns into liquid? it's not that bad actually but it's pretty expensive to get a cup full of it

[serene chasm]

Trader Joe, Trader Joe. Where outh thou Trader Joe?

[rapid topaz]

what even is a Mangosteen

[silver oak]

No, it's actually Mangosteen's Monster

[rapid topaz]

I know Mango but..

[proud vale]

Damn no one knows yum cha

[silver oak]

It's a common mistake

[analog lily]

has anyone tried jack fruit? I had it once and it was awful

[silver oak]

Ok: opinions on Grapefruit

[proud vale]

It’s like Chinese food that comes around on trolleys and you can pick what ever you want - almost like a sushi train except for dumplings and pork buns

[silver oak]

I know people really like grapefruit but to me it tastes like poison

[rapid topaz]

Grapes makes wine so it's instantly good fruits

[serene chasm]

I hate grapefrui

[silver oak]

Like spit-out levels of bad

[proud vale]

Oh wait it’s Cantonese

[obsidian juniper]

tbh i dont like alcohol
like,any alcohol

[cunning geode]

there’s a joke to be made here about how everyone here is politely discussing fruits compared to the savagery of Silksong discussions

[silver oak]

Grapes and grapefruits are different things

[cunning geode]

thanks?

[analog lily]

also I remember hearing about someone enjoying sultanas

[proud vale]

Shhh, you’ll snap them out of the food discussion trance I have them in

[olive bobcat]

Gonna start selling fake ideas as NFTs and make trillions

[silver oak]

We've gone on from foods in general, it's gone on for like 20 minutes at this point

[obsidian juniper]

this conversation is making me realize that idk half of the fruits chat is talking about

[cunning geode]

Then look them up

[nimble steppe]

Jackfruit

[analog lily]

that might be for the better tbh

[silver oak]

What is a apple

[serene chasm]

How do we feel about cherries

[proud vale]

Mandarins are the real goat though, despite my namesake

[nimble steppe]

I remember not being big on alcohol before I was a bartender

[silver oak]

There's a brand of sparkling grape juice called Martinelli's that amazing

[nimble steppe]

That stuffs great

[analog lily]

Also olives and onion are really good basically everywhere

[silver oak]

You are/were a bartender? Cool

[rapid topaz]

Mandarins in winter are cool

[opaque sigil]

Onion yes, idk about olives

[nimble steppe]

Onions yes. Olives absolutely not

[analog lily]

nah, they are were they should be, just like sly

[rapid topaz]

Onions are great

[proud vale]

Bruh as you get older you will appreciate the wonder of good olive oil in pasta

[opaque sigil]

Olive oil =/= olives

[nimble steppe]

Olive oil is not equal to olives as a fruit

[proud vale]

Ah yeah true I guess tammo

[opaque sigil]

You don't use olive oil and olives in the same contexts

[rapid topaz]

wait is olive oil a real thing

[nimble steppe]

One of the best ways to do pasta is a black pepper olive oil sauce

[silver oak]

Onions are good, olives are salted puke capsules

[analog lily]

also speaking of onions (but not really) I remember when i was 6 I bit into a chili seed and went beserk

[rapid topaz]

jk

[nimble steppe]

Bananas are flowers

[cunning geode]

Oh thank goodness

[serene chasm]

Is that because you learned how to mix drinks, or its such a stressful job and you started drinking more

[proud vale]

Like Caccio e pepe?

[analog lily]

I didn't notice them so idk

[nimble steppe]

Mostly the former

[glossy gazelle]

We are talking foods now? Ok

[silver oak]

Take out the word brilliant and you've got it

[proud vale]

Bananas are actually herbs

[nimble steppe]

I found I really enjoy gin and whisky

[glossy gazelle]

You know I wonder what foods hornet eats

[analog lily]

and tomatoes are vegetables

[opaque sigil]

Tomatoes are fruits

[rapid topaz]

they are fruits

[analog lily]

wait what, in school they said tomatoes are vegetables

[nimble steppe]

But yeah, cocktails are so fun to make

[silver oak]

Tomatoes are scientifically fruits, but officially classified as vegetables

[analog lily]

I think my school lies about a lot of things

[opaque sigil]

School lied

[nimble steppe]

Being in my position I can straw sample stuff I've never had before

[serene chasm]

School lies a lot

[analog lily]

cucumbers are vegetables though

[nimble steppe]

The right old fashioned is delightful

[opaque sigil]

Although actually idk that fruit and vegetable are mutually exclusive

[serene chasm]

Don't fruit grow o. Trees

[silver oak]

Strawberries and raspberries are both not fruits

[rapid topaz]

They are likely cooked besides other vegetables, but it's technically a fruit.

[hasty wren]

Monthly check, any news?

[glossy gazelle]

?sspsa

[silver oak]

f r u i t

[glossy gazelle]

Why did that not work

[hasty wren]

Understandable, see you next month

[silver oak]

?sspsa

[analog lily]

is that a new GIF? seems weird compared to the previous one

[glossy gazelle]

Dafuq

[silver oak]

Bot is dead

[rapid topaz]

?salsa

[analog lily]

also don't you dare turn this into a SS conversation

[serene chasm]

?sspsa

[analog lily]

melted cheese F tier

[opaque sigil]

Cheese is good overall ig

[glossy gazelle]

Ladies and gentlemen ?sspsa died on this day

[opaque sigil]

I'm a fervent feta fan

[serene chasm]

Cheese is the food of gods

[analog lily]

oh cool, intresting ig

[rapid topaz]

Depends of the cheese honestly

[proud vale]

Damn chat is fast

[silver oak]

Cheeses are super varying in flavor but overall good

[proud vale]

I look away for like 30 seconds I can’t find my place

[opaque sigil]

You did this

[serene chasm]

Cheese is gouda

[analog lily]

well woolworths cheese anyway

[silver oak]

I like a good brie

[rapid topaz]

I mean there's like hundreds of differents cheese, technically

[opaque sigil]

I don't know that I've ever tried havarti, or at least I don't remember what it tasted like

[proud vale]

Only cheese I can tolerate is mozzarella

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[nimble steppe]

Cheddar

[glossy gazelle]

That lag

[analog lily]

where do i get this cheese?

[silver oak]

Literally 3 minutes

[opaque sigil]

[rapid topaz]

well that doesn't even surprise me x)

[proud vale]

Bots getting sloppy

[serene chasm]

My life goal now is to try all that cheese

[analog lily]

like can i buy that cheese, as in the same style of it?

[glossy gazelle]

My favorite cheese is the good ol’ cheddar

[silver oak]

"World's greatest cheese resource" is a phrase I never thought I would hear

[analog lily]

oh ok

[glossy gazelle]

I also like American and Swiss though

[proud vale]

Maybe there’s a cheese tasting delivery subscription service you could sign up to

[opaque sigil]

That sounds like it would be a thing

[glossy gazelle]

England apparently

[silver oak]

My town is so weird
We don't have a bakery but we have 4 coffee shops within 5 minutes walk from eachother and a cheese shop with an annual cheese parade

[analog lily]

I just skipped to the end for no reason and found President brie cheese,

[glossy gazelle]

Ok how do you expect me to know that by heart

[silver oak]

They literally pull out a giant 8 foot wheel of cheese and parade it around town

[opaque sigil]

ig there's just no demand for the 🍞

[rapid topaz]

I think my favorite one these days is 'munster', from a center region in france. But I think I couldn't sort my top 15 list

[silver oak]

And it's a big deal

[opaque sigil]

munster's good

[proud vale]

Let’s crowdfund curly a flight to the cheese parade guys

[glossy gazelle]

It’s not like I live near a cheese store

[analog lily]

I don't really live in a town, just kind of on the end of a corner near a local shopping centre where i used to work at a bakery, guess that's whyi like bread so much

[silver oak]

You're aus right?

[analog lily]

yeah

[glossy gazelle]

I’ve always wanted to try Camembert cheese though (I fudged up the spelling lol)

[serene chasm]

I want to go to an authentic cheese maker

[rapid topaz]

The cheese's universe can be quite surprising sometimes

[opaque sigil]

Damn y'all making me want cheese now

[analog lily]

well time to eat some sliced cheese for cheese talk

[proud vale]

Relating to cheese, what’s everyone’s favourite pizza?

[serene chasm]

Same. Wish it wasn't so expensive

[silver oak]

Go eat your sliced American in shame

[opaque sigil]

I don't have cheese

[glossy gazelle]

Pepperoni

[analog lily]

I hate pizza so expect me to try end this pizza conversation

[proud vale]

Pepperoni also my favourite, absolutely goated

[opaque sigil]

Banana pepper and feta

[glossy gazelle]

Yes I know I’m a casual

I thought it was called bleu cheese

[proud vale]

A cheese by another name is just as sweet?

[analog lily]

maybe you should open a cheese shop selling authentic blue cheese

[silver oak]

There's a place near me that makes a "burger pizza" which is no sauce, cheese, hamburger, onions, ketchup and mustard

[opaque sigil]

[silver oak]

It's unironically delicious

[rapid topaz]

Just come to france, it's free (well not really but most of them costs very few )

[analog lily]

wait isn't ketchuup sauce though

[glossy gazelle]

Weirdest thing I’ve heard today

[proud vale]

Sounds like an abomination

[coarse leaf]

Garfielf

[glossy gazelle]

I knew Pizza hut tried a Burger pizza at one point

[opaque sigil]

I can't say that that wouldn't kinda work