Eh, he probably doesn't have any special inside knowledge
#sk-discussion
opaque sigil
pallid flare
he definitively talked with them
opaque sigil
And they said no, that may have been the extent of the conversation
pallid flare
yep
pastel silo
but the way he changed the phrasing from '' They said they are probably not gonna'' to ''I think we are not gonna see..'' as to not directly quote them ...idk sounds like they told him they won't have anything to show for a while
opaque sigil
That clip is just such a non-statement, you know?
pallid flare
told him the same things we know "we're only showing things we find worth showing"
opaque sigil
Plus that was long enough ago that a "little while" may have passed
And by this I wasn't trying to imply that a 2021 release is likely, nor that the game being done in 2021 is, just a hypothetical
pastel silo
also Leth said he thinks it's better to release a game at the start of the year but we don't know how much saying he will have when choosing it so w/e
opaque sigil
I was more thinking that it would be a bad idea to drop a game and then go on vacation for a few weeks, since that would leave nobody to fix potential problematic bugs that could arise, but yeah, competing with AAAs for attention would be more of a concern in December
random fox
Idk, i feel like ss could definitly compete with the AAA games rn
Also start of 2022 has elden ring which imo is the single most anticipated game rn
I personaly think a holiday release is possible
Expecialy since game awards are december 10th, so they could show it on there than have it release for holidays
potent plover
You guys think the release date leak is true?
opaque sigil
Expecialy since game awards are december 10th, so they could show it on there th...
it would be a bad idea to drop a game and then go on vacation for a few weeks, since that would leave nobody to fix potential problematic bugs that could arise
pallid flare
You guys think the release date leak is true?
no
random fox
> it would be a bad idea to drop a game and then go on vacation for a few weeks,...
Yeah thats the only bad part about releasing on holidays
pallid flare
for more information, look at the doc I have written
random fox
But rn we dont rly have a big holidays game right? So ss would be pretty massive
opaque sigil
There are probably a few, and more that could get announced in the two months between now and then
lone hornet
Hey guys
random fox
Well most of the big games have alredy been announced and they are all 2022 or way before holidays no?
lone hornet
AnY nEwS?¿
random fox
Unless theres some secret game im forgetting
pallid flare
?sssss
thin zephyrBOT
Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ. 
random fox
AnY nEwS?¿
No but pax is soon so the Hopium is on sale
opaque sigil
Pax is now
random fox
Isnt it in like 10 hours
opaque sigil
It's the 8th to the 10th
opaque sigil
pfft so at like 2 am pass 
opaque sigil
The latter
sage wing
im pretty sure a dude shwoed a tweet where they said there would be no silksong news at this event
sage wing
Twitter
pallid flare
Minecraft isn't an indie game by any means
opaque sigil
That's a different thing
sage wing
ohhh ok
stoic plover
My hype now 📈📈📈📈
coarse leaf
https://twitter.com/escapistmag/status/1437500648916979715?s=21
im a bit behind, but what event is this?
pallid flare
an old one
coarse leaf
oh nm then lol
stoic plover
Thoughts on if this is a boss, it’s only stated as a possible boss
sage wing
he looks sexy
opaque sigil
Seems like a boss
stoic plover
Would ask what type of bug that is but looks like it would be in the bell type area
pallid flare
that's the last judge
stoic plover
Pretty cool name if you ask me
sage wing
nah he says "g'day m'lady" and proceeds to simp for hornet in all her majestic glory
stoic plover
He doesn’t fight you as he would never hit a women
sage wing
^^ 😤
trim estuary
Thoughts on if this is a boss, it’s only stated as a possible boss
Might be something like the pale lurker
stoic plover
Holy did not know it was that big
Was gonna say it attacks you whereas pale lurker just runs away I’m pretty sure
opaque sigil
Pale Lurker will attack, also, if you get too close
stoic plover
Ahh ok
Makes me hyped, imagine being the backer aswell, worth the money even though it has taken a few years to see it come to life
opaque sigil
Yeah, the backers whose ideas didn't make it into HK are probably happy that they're getting into SS
stoic plover
As soon as I saw it say trio aswell, that’s gonna be a dope encounter, the fact that their boss will make a reoccurring appearance is also awesome
opaque sigil
The pose is a bit wonky ngl
native ivy
Did someone say clown time?
pallid flare
no?
formal karma
hoooonk
coarse leaf
is there a schedule for this pax thing guys? i think im looking at the wrong details
formal karma
(goose noises, not clown)
formal karma
is there a schedule for this pax thing guys? i think im looking at the wrong det...
1,000,000% no silksong at Pax
coarse leaf
1,000,000% no silksong at Pax
fair enough, it doesnt rly seem likely from what i can make out of it
nimble radish
theres always a chance
coarse leaf
yo lori
nimble radish
yo bhkr
cedar sedge
just finished silksong, overrated game tbh and why is this in 2d? we're in 2021 not in the 80s
nimble radish
2 dimensions is more than enough, I'd rather it was 1d
opaque sigil
smh I only play 5d games this isn't the dark ages
copper knot
sussyd
cedar sedge
10d is the way
opaque sigil
chilly nexus
tranquil igloo
just finished silksong, overrated game tbh and why is this in 2d? we're in 2021 ...
same
it wasn't all that
potent plover
I have received news that silksong will release yesterday
but only to time travelers
gilded adder
everyone
potent plover
gday
olive bobcat
SS releases February 2022
gilded adder
SS releases February 2022
potent plover
SS release date is I'm tired and don't have the energy for jokes
gilded adder
Can't wait for I'm tired and don't have the energy for jokes to arrive.
olive bobcat
Gonna be good
potent plover
yeah
pallid flare
hi aluo
split blade
i would actually be more surprised if silksong didnt release before or during feb 2022
stark estuary
Makes me hyped, imagine being the backer aswell, worth the money even though it ...
This guy seems to be related to Jinn/Jiji's "Masters".
trim estuary
smh I only play 5d games this isn't the dark ages
Dark soul ages are over
stark estuary
This guy seems to be related to Jinn/Jiji's "Masters".
And I think it's cool that we are likely to see an expansion on small plot details from HK which were not really elaborated upon.
hushed wasp
No silksong has no news or confirmed release date
guess i didnt predict that correctly
pallid flare
there's a pretty big chance that a "hey guys, I haven't been here in a long time" will be followed up with "any ss news?"
hushed wasp
Yeah
trim estuary
Yeah
hushed wasp
I just reply with no news no release date before they finish talking usually
opaque sigil
Just do ?sspsa
Give a man a fish, and all that
hushed wasp
Give a man a fish and theyll cook it probably
Or sell it
yeah
trim estuary
Teach a man to be a fish, and you get free food
stark estuary
Hi, I haven't been here in a long time.
coarse leaf
hi
stark estuary
Any ss news?
potent plover
buy a man eat fish, he day
trim estuary
Hi, I haven't been here in a long time.
Lie
coarse leaf
Any ss news?
yes
potent plover
teach fish man, to a lifetime
stark estuary
Teach a fish to man
coarse leaf
Fish a man
lapis oyster
I can smell your bones 
trim estuary
Man fish day live
potent plover
man fish day, product.
lapis oyster
stark estuary
I can smell your bones <:thehollownite:872988034570809395>
What do they smell like?
pallid flare
teach a man to day, he will fish
opaque sigil
When you use an expression and it somehow leads to the whole channel devolving into shitposting 
coarse leaf
Occam's butter-knife
pallid flare
sorry tammo but this is pretty funny
potent plover
When you use an expression and it somehow leads to the whole channel devolving i...
I'm sorry I was just quoting a meme
coarse leaf
Caught fish, never worn
trim estuary
When you use an expression and it somehow leads to the whole channel devolving i...
True
trim estuary
Occam's butter-knife
Ocram’s butter knife
potent plover
teach discord meme, spam.
stark estuary
Occam's butter-knife
Occam's Szczerbiec.
coarse leaf
Occam's GYUTO KNIFE, SHIROGAMI 1, DAMASCUS FINISH - NISHIDA
potent plover
what
coarse leaf
this
potent plover
I have no idea what's going on
coarse leaf
me neither
potent plover
Is this anime stuff?
pallid flare
not sure
stark estuary
Occam's Personal Grooming Device
coarse leaf
Is this anime stuff?
its a kitchen knife
potent plover
its a kitchen knife
butter cutter
coarse leaf
butter cutter
you can thin slice anything you want with it
its extremely sharp and durable,
most of them last for decades
potent plover
That blade is a relic that makes whoever hold it want to kill
coarse leaf
bet Occam wishes he had one
potent plover
Just theorizing
hushed wasp
I hate this chat
Why are my facebook friends active at 23:30
Why do i have facebook installed
languid linden
I hate this chat
Me too
stark estuary
Where did Occam go
hushed wasp
i dont use facebook but its installed nontheless
pallid flare
I hate this chat even though I frequent it
hushed wasp
me with every discord chat ever
(Except for sdv that community wholesome as fuck)
languid linden
Where did Occam go
Idk
hushed wasp
What is occam
coarse leaf
Where did Occam go
Occam here
coarse leaf
What is occam
idk ive heard he has a pretty cool razor
potent plover
I hate this chat and I don't frequent it
Probably because I haven't played hk in like 4 months
tribal merlin
people don't even know how to maintain a razor any more
similar to that shirogami knife from above, high carbon steels have a soul and if you don't care for them they'll go to shit
tight linden
hey
pallid flare
hello
proud vale
Greetings
hoary pecan
Okay guys I have a theory
empty tree
your theory is wrong
hoary pecan
Silksong is almost done
empty tree
we have had that theory since june 2020
pallid flare
great theory
hoary pecan
If you go on the programmer's github, he's working on mobile app code. Which means he's probably done and its just optimisation, balancing and tweaks
empty tree
?
pallid flare
but we don't have TC's github
empty tree
link?
pallid flare
jack vine probably works on other stuff than silksong
warm bone
NO ONLY SILKSONG
pallid flare
considering that this is something for android this has nothing to do with anything
hoary pecan
Yeah, I guess the point is that he might have downtime atm, perhaps because its almost done
Like I said... Its a theory
warm bone
a game theory
empty tree
usually when its almost done is when developers are at their busiest isnt it?
hoary pecan
Yes, but not the programmer
empty tree
oh true
warm bone
he's not the only programer
pallid flare
depends on a huge variety of things
hoary pecan
Obviously, it's speculation
wheat sail
Hey guys !
hoary pecan
But I would think that if there's any big additions needed to the functions of the game, Jack would need to be commiting most of their time
tribal merlin
he's not the only programer
he kinda is tho
if they were building a car he would be the one building the motor, clutch and transmission
hoary pecan
I think you'll find that it's the WHEELS that make the car go, not whatever an engine is pfft
tribal merlin
wheels are overrated, you can replace them with pogo sticks
pallid flare
he doesn't have to be there at all times
hoary pecan
wheels are overrated, you can replace them with pogo sticks
I'm taking this to shark tank.
tribal merlin
nah Ari can work fine by himself and I assume William as well
they'll need things added to the editor as they go but I think it's safe to assume 99.9% of things they need to build the game are already done
one could say "the tools are there"
hoary pecan
I'd go as far as saying they've probably got every mechanic built into the engine
It's just the last bit of arrangement with those tools left to do
tribal merlin
well there's also optimization and unintended program behavior
so a coder will have their work cut out until release and for a good time after that
hoary pecan
Yeah, and as that "Where's silksong" vid said, they'll want to release it in the least buggy state. So will take a lot of time to polish
pallid flare
or maybe jack's been taking a break?
green kraken
taking a break in game dev?
pallid flare
yes
green kraken
no
tribal merlin
pallid flare
is that unheard of?
hoary pecan
Yyyyyyyyyes...
green kraken
lul
pallid flare
those pesky people taking breaks for their... mental health wtf???
green kraken
not saying they should or shouldnt
hoary pecan
Yeah... its kinda lame isn't it
tribal merlin
he can take a break when he worked himself to death
hoary pecan
I highhhhhhly doubt team cherry ever get overworked though
pallid flare
don't worry i'm poking a bit of fun at that
it's just that TC probably didn't take much of a break between announcement and now
hoary pecan
As indie devs with crazy moneybags, they've earned patience
tribal merlin
I highhhhhhly doubt team cherry ever get overworked though
they're workaholics and have their funds secured, what can go wrong
pallid flare
sometimes working on other things can clear up your mind
tribal merlin
sometimes working on other things can also distract you
and then you need 2 weeks to actually get back to the point of understanding you had when you were "in the zone"
taking a few days off isn't a problem tho
but taking a break of a few months is
hoary pecan
Can confirm. When I was coding I'd look back at what I did on Friday and it might as well be written by an alien
green kraken
comment the code 😦
robust pecan
I mean, his commits are pretty consistent the last 2 years
tribal merlin
comment the code 😦
that only gets you so far
if the code base gets big enough you need to read more than the comments
especially if something's not working as you expected it to
then your comments merely express intent, not what actually is happening
green kraken
have comments and clear code then even someone else may understand your code
tribal merlin
I have worked in large corporate projects so you don't have to tell me 🙂
green kraken
👍
heady iron
make so many comments that you can barely see the code itself
tribal merlin
at that point change professions and write a book
pallid flare
just write what the code should do without writing the code
tribal merlin
just write what the code should do without writing the code
that's usually what you do first anyways
pallid flare
i meant
tribal merlin
and if you're smart you then use that as comments
pallid flare
just write comments, no code, ever
green kraken
ss is just comments
tribal merlin
that's also kinda possible, it's called literal programming
but good luck debugging the resulting code
green kraken
coding hard anyways 😔
hoary pecan
That's why coding interviews always use a made up language right. To see if you get the process and haven't just learnt everything about your language of preference
green kraken
maybe but alot of the times you just code on a language of your choice or whatever language they tell you and you say your thought process
from what i've heard
trim estuary
coding hard anyways 😔
True
tribal merlin
coding something that somehow works isn't that hard, doing the right thing is
pallid flare
coding something that somehow works isn't *that* hard, doing the right thing is
isnt that always hard 
trim marten
grim mauve
neat junco
Silksong
proud vale
Getting deep
hoary pecan
Heyyyyyy guys does anyone happen to know when silksong is releasing? pre-warning, this is sarcasm
thin zephyrBOT
Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.
safe orchid
fleet temple
Heyyyyyy guys does anyone happen to know when silksong is releasing? *pre-warnin...
-10 years later
hoary pecan
I've started exercising and eating healthy to increase my lifespan and see silksong release
Pelaton? No. Silksong baby
tribal merlin
well I had porcini with tagliatelle and pecorino sauce today 
and with the amount I move at work I really don't need to work out in addition
hoary pecan
That's wayyyyy too many fancy words for my cooking ability. I'll stick to soup and stir fry lmao
tribal merlin
it's a kind of mushroom with a kind of pasta and a kind of cheese
hoary pecan
Ewwww you eat fungi. What's next, the mould in the corner of the shower for a snack? ;)
nimble radish
you know what else is fungi? yeast, the most common raising agent for bread
hoary pecan
you know what else is fungi? yeast, the most common raising agent for bread <:fe...
Okay cool thanks for this... now I have to go gluten free
coarse leaf
its close to 3 years now
nimble radish
Okay cool thanks for this... now I have to go gluten free
you realize the gluten is from the wheat and not the yeast right?
tribal merlin
you know what else is fungi? yeast, the most common raising agent for bread <:fe...
yeah but industrial yeast tastes like shit so I use fermented flour as leavening agent
it's full of bacteria and different tribes of yeasts
coarse leaf
I find it funny no one talks about ss anymore, seems people are now broken
tribal merlin
wdym this is still about silksong, if you don't eat you'll die before you can play it
nimble radish
true!
coarse leaf
oh so I must eat in order to play
hoary pecan
I find it funny no one talks about ss anymore, seems people are now broken<:agon...
We're in the acceptance portion of the first stages of grief. We've put the clown makeup on too many times
coarse leaf
I see
hoary pecan
oh so I must eat in order to play
LITERALLY pay to win.
nimble radish
life is pay to win
tribal merlin
nah it's eat to play
tranquil lotus
So in silksong do you play as hornet
analog lily
No, you play as zote, obviously
tranquil lotus
Oh ok! Thanks for letting me know. Zote is pretty cool so I don't mind
viral pivot
Nah they were joking. You actually play as the godseekers who travelled through pharloom before reaching hallownest in the quest to find the pale king
mortal bay
Nonsense, we all know it's a prequel where you follow Quirrel as he searches for the kingdom of Hollownest
vague heath
wasn't it a sequel where we play as salubra?
iron spear
I've started exercising and eating healthy to increase my lifespan and see silks...
So many will die before silksong releases. Mainly because of my world domination plan.
vague heath
will silksong be a mobile game?
iron spear
Is the switch mobile
cosmic widget
it can be but it's inconvenient to carry everywhere
iron spear
You all have phones don't you!?
tidal prawn
Mostly all
cosmic widget
each jump is an extra 50 cents
vague heath
Ight, im gonna sell my legs
iron spear
Yo how much
vague heath
270K each
tidal prawn
Gonna charge for nail swings too?
iron spear
Hornet doesn't have a nail so no
tidal prawn
My apologies, needle swing
vague heath
will opening the game cost money?
nimble steppe
I will throw money towards Australia
tidal prawn
But will it make it there
nimble steppe
Set sail to sea little bottle
vague heath
I'll send a bottle to Australia when hungry knight 3 comes out
cerulean sable
ok discussion but im kinda scared about the mob combat of SS
well not scared explicitly but the mobs in HK were imo more or less the least fleshed out part of the game IMO
CoF was probably the example of them pushing the limits to those types of fights
but in traversal? theyre just ok
opaque sigil
In Edge it was explicitly stated that SS is an improvement in that regard
cerulean sable
yeah
opaque sigil
And the Deep Docks enemies looked promising in the demo, and that was an early game area
Like the jumpy shield guy and the bell heads
amber dagger
Greg
opaque sigil
MG enemies were kinda meh but that's the very first area so you wouldn't expect too much there
cerulean sable
theyre a step up so far but my other issue is if they start pushing on the idea that harder == better that theyll end up making hard mobs thinking theyre fun, but instead they end up being a slog to go through
hopefully not because stuff like devouts while "difficult" because of their timing and hard hitting nature, they werent really fun
ohhhh bait, slap, rinse repeat
opaque sigil
Complex =/= harder, though there is something of a correlation, and running past some enemies will often be an option anyways
Devouts weren't complex at all really, at least not more so than, say, the shield bearer in DD
nimble steppe
I think they did their best to avoid that difficulty = better trope
opaque sigil
I mean they did say that they wanted the difficulty to be on par with that of HK
proud vale
They weren’t so complex as they were just tedious
proud vale
Man chat do be kinda dead recently - we should start another Silkspotting game
hearty tendon
Buddy if you wanna chat to be alive, just start silkposting
opaque sigil
If there's not an active conversation there's nothing wrong with chat dying every now and then
hearty tendon
And anyway don't worry, we still have alot to discuss about silksong.
- Start discussing about pokemon
So anyway metroid dread
proud vale
There is a subtle art to SilkSpotting that only few people are accustomed with
It's basically one person takes a tiny pic from a frame of the trailer, then everyone has to guess the area/timestamp
fiery coral
hearty tendon
It's like a morning newspaper quizz
Except calling it a newspaper is an overstatement
Oh also hi unoque
serene chasm
Hello
olive bobcat
Let's talk about how SS comes out in February
hearty tendon
Sure
opaque sigil
hearty tendon
But first we need to talk about pararel universes
What if silksong got announced on February ? Will the timeline be good or worse ? Will a butterfly effect happen in that case ?
sterile sleet
Maybe it won't
olive bobcat
Join me, and ponder the question, "what if?"
warm bone
no
hearty tendon
well there would be alot of memes for it
or inside joke atleast
something similliar like pot boy from elden ring
but it's this time it's pot head
gleaming geyser
based
ashen talon
What if silksong got announced on February ? Will the timeline be good or worse ...
Everyone will explode spontaneously
worthy lichen
bruh why's it always gotta be february
hearty tendon
You can't live with your own failure
cerulean sable
lwevel up mdef
worthy lichen
y'all are obsessed with that month
hearty tendon
and where did that bring you ?
ashen talon
and where did that bring you ?
Back to u 😔
hearty tendon
Back to me
brave stone
it is the magic month when Hollowknight came out and we learned about Silksong so it is an important month
hearty tendon
atleast we get to celebrate silksong birtday if it didn't come up at that month
no, 4.130.295 
haughty brook
Shame that the higher view count of the SS announcement trailer is in the Nintendo channel and not Team Cherry's
brave roost
Well i feel that it is because most people found it on the switch and then found out it was on other systems. Possibly?
trim estuary
also it’s Nintendo
brave roost
for real though
proud vale
haha trust Curly to pop in after I mention SilkSpotting 
frank marten
silkspotting
fiery coral
not really; some just hope for news at the next event, some take that hope a bit too far and get mad when no news, some wisely temper their expectations, some others take that too far and ridicule others for having any hope
the four quadrants
so depending on who you ask, the game:
(a) could be at TGA
(b) should be at TGA 😡
(c) probably won't be at TGA but it'd be nice
(d) won't be at TGA how stupid are you for hoping, there's no evidence to support that
nvidia database leak or something
proud vale
It'll go by quickly, besides there's things to hype for in the meantime
Like Elden Ring
lament drum
elden ring
proud vale
Elden ring looks like a sick concept, I really hope it does well
(Also I hope it has Sekiro quality of life stuff)
lament drum
need elden ring
proud vale
Well I imagine they would still do the Dark Souls stat system (instead of the Sekiro stat bump system)
lament drum
yeah they just get better each game with that stuff, only time they ever fucked up QOL in later titles was removing levelling up at bonfires
proud vale
Though I found the Sekiro way so much easier as it just decides for me lol
fiery coral
I know I'll be going for the average melee build anyway 🥴
proud vale
Yeah same, seems the easiest
warm bone
str
lament drum
i love spellcaster builds but for a first time run melee builds are the better experience imo, probabpy gonna do dex or quality
after that though its whatevers closest to faith
proud vale
Yeah it sucks that you can usually only be one or the other for a whole playthrough (unless you do the full stat change)
serene chasm
Dark Souls?
proud vale
Cause in DS3 I would get cool loot and then it's just an interesting spell that i'll never be able to use unless I respec
Indeed Curlo
Demon SoulsBournEkiro Ring hype is here for their input
stoic plover
Spell builds feel so cheesy sometimes, on one hand your a glass cannon, on the other you one-two shot most enemies without having to worry
serene chasm
Well I know nothing so I'm gonna sit this one out
shell yacht
melee seems great until you need 20 more levels to use the good strength weps or the opposite, dex build
or weird faith req hammers
proud vale
Sekiro stat system or nothing 
serene chasm
SS stat system
shell yacht
minecraft stats system
stoic plover
The weird weapons that require faith annoy me, they always look dope but it requires like 12 faith and that’s too much to put into a stat you don’t normally use for a single weapon
fiery coral
melee seems great until you need 20 more levels to use the good strength weps or...
unless you're like me and use the starting Longsword for the entire run
proud vale
Yo hit me up with that plants vs zombies 2 stat system
shell yacht
unique out here hurting my soul
fiery coral
proud vale
unless you're like me and use the starting Longsword for the entire run <:gorbbr...
I also just stuck to heavy armor and longswords
fiery coral
I started with Bloodborne, so heavy armour was the exact opposite of what I liked but yeah longswords for the win
proud vale
Well if it's coming after how well recieved Sekiro was, hopefully they're simplify it at least a little bit for new players
shell yacht
a havel monster and straightsword pleb walk into a gank
proud vale
Don't say gank, you'll summon Graig 
fiery coral
the straightsword pleb starts R1 spamming
stoic plover
Anyone played the new demon souls, really wanna check that out but you need a ps5 
fiery coral
I don't have a PS5 either 
proud vale
just get PS5, 5head
It looks really cool though with the updated graphics but I've heard some of the logistics are still kind of dated
stoic plover
To be fair they aren’t too hard to grab anymore, it’s just £450 lol
serene chasm
Don't say gank, you'll summon Graig <:shermaU:743947049472491623>
Gank Gank Gank
proud vale
I really hope that the next switch model is about that price, otherwise it could be a hard sell for people
shell yacht
To be fair they aren’t too hard to grab anymore, it’s just £450 lol
lies
fiery coral
speaking of ganks and Havel, remember that boss in the DS2 DLC
shell yacht
i still cant find one for base price that isnt a fukin tech site combo deal
fiery coral
literally just took three NPCs from the game, cloned them and called it a boss
stoic plover
lies
You just need to follow a ps5 stock tracker for a few days and trust me there are so many opportunities to grab one
shell yacht
whats DS2 never heard of it
proud vale
the second model of the nintendo DS, smh
fiery coral
it has some good bits to be fair
shell yacht
credits
fiery coral
credits
stoic plover
DS2 dlcs were some of the hardest
lament drum
worst optional dlc bosses of the series
lament drum
pay real money to fight blue smelter demon wow! thank you B-team
fiery coral
remember that godforsaken bit in Frozen Eleum Loyce
fiery coral
tiny hedgehogs at supersonic speed, hexers from above, an invader
and other stuff I can't recall
shell yacht
why does ds2 suck so much
bc it doesnt exist
lament drum
the only good dlc bosses were fume knight and sir alonne, sinh especially was the worst real dragon fight in the series
lament drum
bc it doesnt exist
god i wish
stoic plover
I have done every single dark souls boss except the one in frigid outskirts that’s how bad it was to get back to it
shell yacht
cant be a real dragon in a fake game smh
Sekiros serpent is closer to a real DS dragon
lament drum
I have done every single dark souls boss except the one in frigid outskirts that...
same, if its that bs and annoying to play why should i do it?
all that running just for a lazy duplicate boss
elfin swift
ds2 is fine and horsefuck outskirts is a meme you get around incredibly easily
but yeah duplicate boss is v disappointing
lament drum
frigid outskirts apologist
stoic plover
Exactly
elfin swift
literally just summon all the npcs to go with you they can handle anything and you almost certainly wont die
shell yacht
or or or
lament drum
worst area in all of DS, not only is it a pain in the ass tp get through but its so bland and boring
shell yacht
take the disc out
lament drum
literally just summon all the npcs to go with you they can handle anything and y...
npc summoning lol
stoic plover
My npcs fell off the cliff and died right by the boss
lament drum
take the disc out
and put a better game in
elfin swift
disappointing too. the idea of the whiteout area with scattered fortresses and buildings honestly kinda intrigues me
lament drum
shame the ds2 team couldnt execute its ideas for shit
elfin swift
blizzard rising and falling to obstruct visibility
shell yacht
gael and lapp in demon princes be like, when are we supposed to join in? after the prince is almost dead? ok
elfin swift
ds2 being a bad game is really exaggerated. it's fine. has some bumps, no worse than 1's lows
lament drum
npc summons are lame
lament drum
ds2 being a bad game is really exaggerated. it's fine. has some bumps, no wors...
not so great when 85% of the game is all lows
gleaming fog
DS2 just got memed to death because the pvp community hated the ADP stat, the game is not any worse than others
elfin swift
yeah thats a huge exaggeration. plenty of great areas, nice level design, bosses just tend to be too straightforward
shell yacht
ds2 being a bad game is really exaggerated. it's fine. has some bumps, no wors...
ds2 isnt real, it cant hurt you
lament drum
prowling magus and congregation
gleaming fog
also probably the best DLC, but not sure who here would include that
lament drum
also probably the best DLC, but not sure who here would include that
??????? how
elfin swift
lost magus and congregation is another meme, it's not even bad, no different from any other room with enemies. takes a minute maybe to kill and move on with, easy
gleaming fog
most content added, most lore added, fully polishes the game amongst the souls titles
lament drum
how does blue smelter demon beat out the ringed city
shell yacht
i usually dont exclude dlc when talking about games, idk why u would. especially old games where at most the dlc is like 3$
but ds2 bad
elfin swift
the mainline dlc areas are great to explore
lament drum
lost magus and congregation is another meme, it's not even bad, no different fro...
the fact that its considered a boss is whats laughable about it
proud vale
I've only played DS3, which was good
gleaming fog
I'm talking about it on specifically a content basis, I personally enjoyed the lore & atmosphere of ds3 DLC a bit more but I just would also say that ds2's DLC added the most
lament drum
ds2 is bloated though, is adding the most really worth it when most of what youre adding is garbage?
elfin swift
i found tracking down the lost loyal knights of loyce and then leading em into battle in the old chaos just kicked so much ass
great moment, cool level design, great boss
gleaming fog
vague statements like that don't really provide for any concrete argument against a game's quality, you'll need to be more specific than "it's bloated garbage"
elfin swift
like the sideshoot coop areas are really tiny and completely ignorable parts of the dlc not sure why you feel they really affect the experience in a serious way?
gleaming fog
i think solid arguments against ds2's quality include some of the new stats, soul memory, and level design (although, could lump level design in with ds3 too if you're making that argument). otherwise most of the soulsborne fans don't actually consider it to be bad, it just got shit on when it released and the meme stuck
lament drum
just because theyre optional coop areas doesnt mean they werent still horrible ideas
elfin swift
yeah but how much do they affect your experience of the game
gleaming fog
more vague buzzwords like "it's horrible" don't really provide anything concrete, kass
elfin swift
its not like it's thrust in your face and theyre frankly very easy to beat if you summon nocs
vestal wagon
Damn we so dry on SS stuff in here we talking about dark souls
gleaming fog
you just keep saying things like "it's bloated, it's garbage, it's horrible" without ever specifying what about it is so bad
I just gave you a few examples
shell yacht
naw some crappy on release games get big niche fanbases, ds2 still gets shit on bc its bad
lament drum
more vague buzzwords like "it's horrible" don't really provide anything concrete...
you like paying money to fight a reused duplicate boss, blue smelter demon and three NPCs?
elfin swift
i really dont think it has anything bad about it that's worse or in higher density than 1
shell yacht
combat, stats, bosses, levels, dlc, i didnt like any of it
lament drum
and having to go through a mostly empty wasteland with some of the most annoying enemies in the series?
elfin swift
you like paying money to fight a reused duplicate boss, blue smelter demon and t...
i mean again the dlc areas are massive the coop areas are tiny offshoots?
gleaming fog
you like paying money to fight a reused duplicate boss, blue smelter demon and t...
only picking out 1 DLC and one particular boss that was reused while disregarding lore and all other additions
lament drum
>only picking out 1 DLC and one particular boss that was reused while disregardi...
thats all the optional bosses, did you even read what i said?
proud vale
As long as this discussion points to Sekiro being the best FromSoftware game, I'm for it
gleaming fog
yeah Demon I wouldn't ever tell someone to enjoy it if they don't like it, I'd just argue about people attempting to purport that it's objectively bad, because I don't think that's fair nor true
elfin swift
yeah i agree
gleaming fog
Not ever gonna tell someone they're wrong for just... not liking something lmao. entirely your right
shell yacht
currently id tie sekiro with ds3 and bb just for multiplatyer being a fun part of the series but not sekiro
oh no ur wrong and should feel bad ds2 isnt even real lmao its all a prank bro
gleaming fog
soulsborne game rankings for me are a mixed bag, I can't even rate them in order because I think each game does something the best compared to the others. like for example, ds1 has the best map design
lament drum
i mean again the dlc areas are massive the coop areas are tiny offshoots?
what of eleum loyce? again, incredibly annoying enemies like the rolling fuckos that chase you halfway across the map and casters that can shoot through walls
gleaming fog
but at the same time, ds1 suffers from things 3, 2 DeS don't
proud vale
I like Sekiro more just for the better narrative (imo)
elfin swift
ds2 is very punishing if you die repeatedly because its level design and increased enemy aggro range going through areas take longer, which can definitely be unfun, and j think arguably a weak type of design if you expect players to die a lot, but can also just mean you need to readjust your strategy and not rely on sprinting through levels too much
shell yacht
ds2 also has casters with anor londo bow accuracy and thats not ok
gleaming fog
man that's a get out of jail free card LOL everyone hates that dogshit area, holy fuck
that I will just come out and say was objectively piss poor map/play design
lament drum
ds2 was made by the marketing team lmao "oh wow people just want hard game durr make hard game with hitboxes that hit the player from behind enemies"
elfin swift
what of eleum loyce? again, incredibly annoying enemies like the rolling fuckos ...
i honestly never felt eleum loyce was a bad area? lot of interesting nooks to explore, the sonic the hedgehogs are all stuck on a ground floor and pretty easy to evade, really pretty scenery, nice looping paths
shell yacht
I like Sekiro more just for the better narrative (imo)
i mean only BB and Sekiro even have clearcut narratives so
lament drum
eleum loyce was frustrating to get through, not a fan of the fact the final boss can potentially become a gank if any of your guys die during it
gleaming fog
that's actual cope imo, that area was basically a flat plane with enemies randomly scattered around. could have been made by a 5 y/o, would call it the pinnacle of "artificial difficulty" depending on your build
and alec that's me agreeing with you ds2 is overhated, but that area is just...
elfin swift
ds2 was, similar to ds1, put through an incredibly messy development process and made under an unrealistic time limit. i think it does a huge disservice to the people who worked on it and is just deadass completely inaccurate to handwave it as "ds2 bad because talentless marketing hacks made it"
lament drum
that's actual cope imo, that area was basically a flat plane with enemies random...
im talking about main eleum loyce, not frigid outskirts
gleaming fog
I was responding to alec
but I agree. Alec, it's not to shit on the creative minds and the hardworking devs who made the game, but we should acknowledge flaws considering we know for a fact the game went through a rushed and rocky development
It's a matter of time constraint rather than "man these devs fuckin suck"
lament drum
ds2 was, similar to ds1, put through an incredibly messy development process and...
its not wrong though, the death counter in majula says a lot about how the ds2 team saw difficulty in ds
shell yacht
flaw: they called it dark souls 2
proud vale
yeah and hey they seem like a studio who have certainly learned and adapted from past games. Seeing a new gen dark souls game is going to be sick
gleaming fog
they have definitely done so, I'd go into detail but it'd take an hour
but they've improved on a lot of various things as they've come along
proud vale
(Elden ring is a dark souls game, right?)
elfin swift
its not wrong though, the death counter in majula says a lot about how the ds2 t...
im not sure how 'death counter in majula' translates to 'objective fact the team on ds2 were hacks'.
gleaming fog
its not wrong though, the death counter in majula says a lot about how the ds2 t...
so you're saying "ds2 bad because talentless marketing hacks made it" is not wrong? that's a little ridiculous
proud vale
Right okay. So maybe we won't see the souls mechanics like we used to know them in previous games
lament drum
no, im making fun of the absurdly misdirected approach to difficulty and noting on the fact that a lot of ds2s difficulty is artifical for a reason
fiery coral
was watching a video on Sekiro recently, and it reminded me of how excellently they did the gimmick boss
gleaming fog
It just won't have to do with souls lore, but mechanics will definitely remain
elfin swift
all difficulty is artificial, it's designed by a developer. do you mean the difficulty is unfun? unrewarding?
proud vale
I haven't actually beaten the game so I don't know what boss that is
fiery coral
dew it
lament drum
royal rat authority, you get poisoned by those starting rats youre fucked, too bad buddy! you wanted difficulty right?
fiery coral
play it now
gleaming fog
Dude, people shit on gimmick bosses too much because "too easy" and disregard all elements of lore and aesthetic for them. I'd actually include ds2 in that, but the big whammie there is Demon's Souls
lament drum
all difficulty is artificial, it's designed by a developer. do you mean the dif...
unfair and/or poorly constructed difficulty
shell yacht
Right okay. So maybe we won't see the souls mechanics like we used to know them ...
oh we will, weapon arts, backstabs, rolls, magic, sekiros deflecting stuff, bloodbornes alt dodging and possibly gunplay. only thing not yet cobformed is a gun of any type
gleaming fog
People ALWAYS shit on those bosses but they're memorable and fun
proud vale
For reference I am up to beating the dad guy
fiery coral
Isshin?
gleaming fog
Owl?
proud vale
That sounds sick Powdered
shell yacht
wow unique
elfin swift
i couldnt get into sekiro i tried so hard but the combat bounced off me
lament drum
People ALWAYS shit on those bosses but they're memorable and fun
authority is not what id call fun, and its memorable in the worst way
proud vale
Nah not Isshin, Owl
gleaming fog
Again kass, you're like... countering my general point which includes 20+ bosses throughout soulsborne with one example
fiery coral
love that he can perform a Mikiri counter on you
gleaming fog
you gotta give me more than that homie
proud vale
Tell you what was not a cool fight: The Monk
fiery coral
pretty tanky
still owl
DS2?
elfin swift
which one there've been like four soulsborne monk fights
proud vale
So goddamn tanky wtf
fiery coral
which one there've been like four soulsborne monk fights
Corrupted Monk, Sekiro
still owl
I’m making my way through DS1 atm 
gleaming fog
Corrupted monk< Old monk 
elfin swift
if i were a monk i would simply not allow myself to be corrupted
gleaming fog
I'm 90% sure none of y'all played DeS when it first released but that shit was way fun against old monk
shell yacht
Dude, people shit on gimmick bosses too much because "too easy" and disregard al...
depends on the gimmick, aslong as the bossroom isnt full of minions i prob wont hate it
proud vale
Yo not getting corrupted? takes some balls
fiery coral
depends on the gimmick, aslong as the bossroom isnt full of minions i prob wont ...
Prowling Magus and Congregation
gleaming fog
depends on the gimmick, aslong as the bossroom isnt full of minions i prob wont ...
I feel that, although I still like executioners chariot in ds2 lol
The fight isn't hard but it was unique and interesting
fiery coral
summoning minions is one thing
Elana just goes and summons Velstadt 
proud vale
depends on the gimmick, aslong as the bossroom isnt full of minions i prob wont ...
Deacons?
gleaming fog
Deacons have some of the best atmosphere, yes you said it before I could type
fiery coral
love when you first enter the fight, the gong hits and they all rise up at once
gleaming fog
Their OST 
proud vale
Yeah they were really fun and not really that frustrating of a boss (the area was hard though)
valid sable
Deacons are fun to slap around
gleaming fog
The area was really cool especially once you got inside the cathedral, those holy mace knight bros were cool as hell
shell yacht
deacons arent really minions, and theyre also made of fucking paper lmao
also my other point is ds2 has like enough minion summoning bosses to compete with the whole series listed in my name
elfin swift
deacons is fun just cause the atmosphere is so intimidating at first and then after a few minutes it feels like your wading through a mosh pit of helpless mildly inconvenient old men and are unstoppable in killing
gleaming fog
90% of my appreciation for that fight is the soundtrack, the other 10% of the setting & ambience
elfin swift
having multiple enemies isnt a necessarily bad thing though, it just means you have to adjust your strategy and approach to the fight.
fiery coral
in a boss I don't enjoy fighting multiple enemies
usually
I'd rather have the one-on-one
shell yacht
i think theres just one in BB, like 2 in ds3, 1 in DS, sekiro has ehhh debatably 2?
elfin swift
yeah normally same. tbh even ornstein and smough drove me up a wall, found it terribly fristrating
fiery coral
DS3 has Abyss Watchers and Demon in Pain/from Below
still owl
Having more than 1 enemy or boss leads to the classic chaos mode
fiery coral
both are pretty good
gleaming fog
We have to make the difference known here though, between mob bosses and O&S
shell yacht
i dont mean double bosses, those are fun,i mean minions not contributing to boss health
gleaming fog
cuz both are multiple enemies but one is much different
elfin swift
yeah defs, just meant in general in response to unique, normally dont like boss fights with multiple enemies at all
mystic path
hello
shell yacht
kindof,AW is a heavy gimmick bc one is your teammate
gleaming fog
Man all the gank bosses in ds3 were sick, cannot say the same for ds2 but I still like most of them regardless of difficulty
mystic path
whatre u guys talking about?
gleaming fog
Only one I think is a little goofy was the gargoyle fight
fiery coral
whatre u guys talking about?
Dark Souls/Bloodborne
mystic path
ahok
fiery coral
Only one I think is a little goofy was the gargoyle fight
oh yeah ripped from DS1
mystic path
oh wait-
i thought i was in the hk-discussion XD
elfin swift
i like throne watcher/defender a lot, just mechanically i found the fight v enjoyable. it felt a lot less frenetic than o&s to me, easier to control for and not get sideswiped while still having the tension of 2v1
still owl
oh wait-
i thought i was in the hk-discussion XD
Welcome regardless
gleaming fog
technically maiden astraea is a multi enemy boss 
mystic path
bye'
gleaming fog
jokes aside though, I gotta say those gimmick bosses end up being some of the most memorable
elfin swift
which gimmick bosses stand out to you?
shell yacht
AW, Monkey, OnS
gleaming fog
well for one maiden astraea, but also folks like adjucator, storm king, old monk, leechmonger to name a few in demon's souls
elfin swift
i love the lost sinner, just from the gravitas of approaching the fight, the feeling of wading through the bastille, finding the saltfort, then that final long bridge leasing to the very end of the prison, the way it actually feels like this is it, this is The Boss
fiery coral
which gimmick bosses stand out to you?
Divine Dragon definitely
gleaming fog
also shit like deacons, yhorm, gwyndolin, the pursuer, ivory king
gwyndolin especially stands out big time
elfin swift
i love to death that you can summon lucatiel for the ivory king
shell yacht
yhorm sucked imo fight me
elfin swift
the hill ill die on is lucatiel is best souls recurring mirror-to-pcs-character, sorry anri and solaire better luck next time
lose track of her after the final meeting at aldia's mansion, go through the rest of the game, go through eleum loyce reuniting the last loyal knights of the old kingdom to lead them into battle, then, right before the plunge, your own loyal knight is there waiting for you for one last battle
fiery coral
my favourite NPC in the series has to be Aldia, personally
gleaming fog
anri ain't really shit lol
shell yacht
you obv forgot the best recurring thing
plin plin plon in soul of cinders fight
elfin swift
honestly i love aldia too. the legion voice effect, the way other npcs voices fade in and out of him
gleaming fog
vendrick bros... we got too cocky...
elfin swift
i really like how the endings of 2 play of 1 as well
gleaming fog
but yea, aldia is pretty solid. some great dialogue there
one of my other fave npcs is gough
shell yacht
also for best reccuring track record its undeniably patches as the village asshole every time
gleaming fog
ay there is one guy who outdoes patches for fromsoft recurring features, but he's not as good as patches and isn't really the same character
elfin swift
the way the throne of want combines the dark lord and linking the fire ending from 1, the way the doors to the kiln physically shut between the player and the character while the herald narrates "what happens next, only you can see." like, realistically it doesnt matter what you choose to do in the kiln because cycles, but what does matter is the undead taking that choice into their hands and seizing the throne and the ability to actively shape the world, and the game separates you from your own character with the doors closing, like its their choice, not yours, you dont even get to know what it is
gleaming fog
it's the "crestfallen warrior", homie was in the king's field games too
shell yacht
yeah him
gleaming fog
i tried playing kings field 4 once lmao shit was a mistake
there's punishing and there's "I want to actually die irl" punishing
elfin swift
i really like the crestfallen knight from 2 as well, the way he offers that quiet melancholy commiseration with you whenever you stop by. really made majula feel like a kind of home to come back to
gleaming fog
majula might be best home base if it weren't for firelink shrine, the blacksmith's daughter... 
elfin swift
genuinely felt like someone rooting for you, personally
shell yacht
ew rooting for burning undead
elfin swift
my big gripe with firelink in 3 is how wasted the firekeeper is. its just mad to me that they didnt give her more dialogue or interactions
gleaming fog
i feel that
shell yacht
she has a kindof important side role but she talks more than ds1 keeper
gleaming fog
maiden in black remains best levelup girl, with doll at a close second
elfin swift
like she's a direct counterpart to you, chained to the fire, and the dark ending actively requires you conspire with her, in a way that feels like its two of you betraying the world together, that should feel intimate and moving and personal and instead she just feels like blank slate waifu bait
shell yacht
immerse yourself harder smh
elfin swift
im just v bitter about what couldve been done with character i feel like we really missed out
gleaming fog
i'm not tbh, none of them ever really had a giant role to begin with in any of the soulsborne games
ds2 probably had the most attention but even then I wasn't all that enamored with the character
shell yacht
firekeepers keep fire, anything extra is good for me, especially the ds3 lore "twist"
elfin swift
yeah but a huge part of 3 is that youre small and alone and are making up for it by needing others. you need the cinders of the lords to even attempt a half baked linking of the fire, you need to give the dark soul to a painter to envision and then create a new world that you have no part in, and the dark age ending isnt a dark lord thing like previous games, its something you can only attempt with the firekeeper's direct help
gleaming fog
i think the problem there is you're hoping for a positive, fulfilled relation with an npc in a souls game. the tone doesn't really suit that
elfin swift
but think about how much dialogue and interaction other characters get in comparison
shell yacht
yeah like, everyone is a corpse already and without intervention most meet a permanent end before the games over anyway
eh
proud vale
Benji's online? Hype 
shell yacht
wheres my Andre lore
gleaming fog
she's very important of course, but anything more than we got would be sort of... going against the general tone of the game, if that makes sense.
though you could make the arguement against me that having one specific NPC that is a comforting presence would just accentuate their character rather than taking away from the general feel
which imo would be a fair argument!
elfin swift
its not like soulsborne cant do emotionally meaningful characters with a fleshed out amount of dialogue though. even at firelink shrine. and dialogue that reacts to and comments on your progress
shell yacht
Andre lore 
elfin swift
andre's hammer is named lil andre, thats his top secret lore
elfin swift
she's very important of course, but anything more than we got would be sort of.....
i think if anything she stands out for being the person you talk to the most while having the least to say compared to anyone else. like a lot of characters are very openly warm and comforting toward you, greirat, karla, etc, and orhers like hawkwood and ludleth have dynamic dialogue that comments on and reacts to your actions in-game
gleaming fog
and that, i find satisfying in and of itself, without needing any additional character development
elfin swift
you could make the argument that's cause she's actively trying to stick to the script and play the role assigned her but i dont think literally giving her identical and unchanging dialogue the whole game is a very strong way to implement that, emotionally or narratively
gleaming fog
just me though... anyway bros. my bedtime coming up, so i gotta bounce. goodnight
elfin swift
oof same
proud vale
Another thing to hyped about in January is Pokemon Legends Arceus
(I hope it's well optimised for the ancient switch specs though lol)
shell yacht
i wish gamefreak learned from its fans
cerulean sable
more specifically on enemies like lace that can parry, but at the cost of it not damaging them
shell yacht
hm
proud vale
I would imagine moves like that would just go through counter, because stagger would likely equal more damage dealt to the enemy than just letting the special move go through
Would be cool though as a quick decision sort of mechanic
plucky nova
It has been 968 days since silk song was announced. Almost to 1000
proud vale
1000 is the charm
valid sable
Next announcement at 2000
frank mist
I’m honestly done worrying about Silksong cuz Elden Ring comes out in THREE MONTHS AHHHHH
proud vale
Honestly fair
bleak scarab
It has been 968 days since silk song was announced. Almost to 1000
968
we were so close to glory
frank mist
It’s been almost 3 years?
valid sable
February 14 2022 will be 3 years
worthy pilot
inb4 silksong comes out in my birthday
I appreciate the effort TC but you guys can release early don't get stuck on my birthday
dusty nimbus
pallid flare
good morning #sk-discussion
dusty nimbus
Hi Pyro
pallid flare
hi chaos
dusty nimbus
Did you burn a city or two in your sleep?(Basically did you sleep well?)
pallid flare
chaos I would rather be concerned with your citys
fast swan
helloo ss disc
pallid flare
hello
proud vale
Morning huh?
lament drum
evening
valid sable
2am
proud vale
If silksong released exactly three years after announcement that would be kind of a baller move (take notes TC)
bleak scarab
Morning huh?
Morning 
actually technically evening
wait no I forgot what it was called
Okay, afternoon
agile kelp
good evening/morning/night ss chat
ashen harbor
Hello
pallid flare
hi
charred pulsar
hi
pallid flare
mm lemon
dusty nimbus
chaos I would rather be concerned with your citys
Why?
Is it perhaps because Crete was hit a week ago with an earthquake of 5,8 magnitude?
pallid flare
yes definitely
coarse leaf
from my question before what lace's theme would sound like in the style of godhome, im now making it
so far what do y'all think?
have to fix the choir but yeah
coarse leaf
thank you 
hollow smelt
If silksong released exactly three years after announcement that would be kind o...
Hey buddy is that hope I see?
We can't have good things here
keen shoal
iron, can I have the gif of your pp?
pallid flare
wow look at the time!
proud vale
Not sure tbh I haven’t kept up with PAX
random fox
I cant find the showcase anywhere
cinder adder
qeq
coarse leaf
https://twitter.com/Stizzl69/status/1446851581815709696?t=k4M0ioAhPNglayyhP55Vdw...
What if it hits the wall
worthy pilot
cancelled
random fox
Ss or the person throwing
worthy pilot
both
wicked plume
Can’t wait for 2030! Lol
cobalt ridge
what is the probabily its not a hoax and silksong will be released feburary next year?
pallid flare
low
surreal mortar
I mean it’s not a hoax
But it probably won’t be true either
Who knows it could even be earlier
olive bobcat
https://twitter.com/Stizzl69/status/1446851581815709696?t=k4M0ioAhPNglayyhP55Vdw...
The SS political compass
hollow smelt
there wasnt anything at pax aus yea?
viral pivot
dont see anyone talking about any so i doubt it
coarse leaf
Only the ones who will stay in this chat forever till the release will have the right to play silk song....the other will not have any right for that.
wooden salmon
You know it’s bad when you have a dream about Silksong lol
proud vale
I hear that dude
Quite a few peeps on this server have had SS dreams lol, also hey Reg
wooden salmon
Hey wouldn’t it be super cool
If you could go from pharloom to hallownest after beating the game
opaque sigil
Not really tbh. Sounds like a waste of dev time imo, unless they made some big changes
And even then it probably wouldn't seem like a natural decision
And Hallownest would probably be disappointing and unremarkable after just exploring Pharloom
opaque sigil
What really???
lime radish
it's just a theory, i'm about 20% sure about it
lime radish
so far what do y'all think?
Damn, it really sounds like something that could be in Hollow Knight
Amazing
coarse leaf
dsafmafo thank you so much!
fleet temple
hornet will be in silksong
bad theory, I have a better one
hornet = pk
need I say more?
proud vale
Damn the choir is pretty cool Val
coarse leaf
its not godhome without a choir
proud vale
I wonder if there's ever a guitar in the HK soundtrack
high hedge
If you could go from pharloom to hallownest after beating the game
Silksilver
coarse leaf
I wonder if there's ever a guitar in the HK soundtrack
grimm's theme
opaque sigil
I never noticed one there but maybe
coarse leaf
it contains rhythm guitars
opaque sigil
Nightmare King or The Grimm Troupe?
coarse leaf
grimm troupe
rapid topaz
Grimm fight
proud vale
I will listen right now
rapid topaz
Isn't it electric guitare though, I can't remember
opaque sigil
I don't hear it but I'll trust that it's there, idk instruments.
proud vale
I don't hear it but I'll trust that it's there, idk instruments.
1:07 timestamp
proud vale
Larkin making midi-metal over here
rapid topaz
I think there's chances SS soundtrack have guitare as instrument, because, well, string instrument
coarse leaf
so you can hear it properly
opaque sigil
Grimm Troupe music is like 1 step away from doom ost
coarse leaf
youre giving me ideas 
opaque sigil
youre giving me ideas <:PoppoHyper2:679006340257021972>
Whatever they are, go for it 
Grimm Troupe x Doom can only go well
coarse leaf
doom style grimm theme
tbh ive only ever made one doom-esc remix and this was it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nas6CIFBb70
proud vale
Nah bro big band swing grimm theme all the way
coarse leaf
i feel like i could do it better, so heres the chance to do it
opaque sigil
tbh ive only ever made one doom-esc remix and this was it https://www.youtube.co...
Hell yeah
proud vale
That's SO sick, I love the funky time signature of the song
coarse leaf
making metal with funky time signatures is challenging 🥴
opaque sigil
It sounds great tho
coarse leaf
these are well.. these are hard times if you catch my drift
proud vale
Dang Chris's voice sounds just like Ari's
wait hold on I realise that's very out of context ~ Christopher Larkin has a youtube video in which he explains some music software stuff and his voice is similar to what I've heard of Ari's
opaque sigil
smh Orange just thinks all australians sound the same 
proud vale
Noooo you gotta trust my opinion even more because I am Australian
Surely the lemons have something to say about this
rapid topaz
The lemons ?
fast swan
bruh someones been streaming hk for 20 hours
fast swan
The lemons ?
admins
rapid topaz
oh okay
wary marlin
Silksong
worldly dune
Neversong
opaque sigil
or just don't wait for anything specific
pallid flare
Tammo aren't we all waiting for christmas
opaque sigil
Why would we be
pallid flare
because we always got something near christmas didn't we
I know it's a bit silly but
pallid girder
~~or just don't wait for anything specific~~
I’m an SS fan, I need to have hope
opaque sigil
because we always got something near christmas didn't we
I mean that's like twice, not a super robust sample size from which to infer a pattern
proud vale
Did we get something near last christmas?
pallid flare
edge
proud vale
Ah true, bruh this has been such a damn quick year
olive bobcat
Oh did Pax happen
opaque sigil
The indie showcase did, yeah
viral pivot
XD
proud vale
Aluo is nothing sacred
olive bobcat
Stuff like that I am just unable to do
opaque sigil
Aluo is an agent of chaos
pallid flare
I mean that's like twice, not a super robust sample size from which to infer a p...
i'm probably just being stubborn
viral pivot
idk, hopefully theyll say something but probably wont be any major news
coarse leaf
i'm probably just being stubborn
im hoping for christmas too lol
wanton crest
How is Silksong listed as similar to Outer wilds in Steam ?
is it just because I played it ?
proud vale
exploration
wanton crest
kinda vague
opaque sigil
Exploration, indie, atmospheric
jade canopy
tbh there's a 50% chance of "indie" being enough to bring two game together
wanton crest
maybe cos the two games has similar fan base ?
agile kelp
How is Silksong listed as similar to Outer wilds in Steam ?
both are masterpieces, idk about outerwilds but people say its a master piece
opaque sigil
Or maybe the games have an overlapping fan base because there are certain elements that both games do well
agile kelp
also you spent 53 hours on hades? does it take that long to complete the game?
opaque sigil
There's way more to do than just finish the story
tribal merlin
it's a roguelike which means you can replay it quite often
wanton crest
also you spent 53 hours on hades? does it take that long to complete the game?
haven't finished it 100%
wanton crest
both are masterpieces, idk about outerwilds but people say its a master piece
and outer wilds is really cool, scary but cool
cerulean tree
greg changed his name?
tribal merlin
outer wilds kinda reminds me of myst and riven to some degree
opaque sigil
Graig changes his name a lot
tribal merlin
so if you like outer wilds and haven't played those then there you go
opaque sigil
Myst didn't really hold my interest the way OW did
I think the way OW handles navigating the puzzles adds a lot to the game and Myst just didn't have that
proud vale
Outer Wilds is a profound challenge to indie developers everywhere to develop a better exploration game than it.... can't be done
rapid topaz
For some parts in Outer Wilds, I had Talos Principle/The Witness vibes
Idk exactly why, probably the atmosphere
They are all in my top 5 puzzle games, for the design mostly
But outer wilds is probably like in 1st or 2nd position
opaque sigil
tbf OW is kind of a non-traditional puzzle game
nimble radish
I like how outer wilds uses each of the planets' unique traits for the puzzles
tough garnet
cant wait for this game to come out in the next 10 years
opaque sigil
I mean yeah, it'll probably be out in the next 10 years
fiery coral
speaking of puzzle games allow me to introduce an obscure indie gem called Manifold Garden
proud vale
Unique - Origins 2021
opaque sigil
~~speaking of puzzle games allow me to introduce an obscure indie gem called Man...
Looks cool, might get it
coarse leaf
gungeon
rare kindle
the final prize of squid game is silk song, do you compete
fiery coral
Squid game?
opaque sigil
Netflix show
fiery coral
ah
viral pivot
ive heard of it but idk what its about
opaque sigil
Like a weird game show where the contestants die
nimble radish
game about squids
fiery coral
Discord, video games, books and academics occupy enough of my time as it is
opaque sigil
I didn't watch it tho so idk really
fiery coral
Like a weird game show where the contestants die
oh
tall hinge
the final prize of squid game is silk song, do you compete
no
opaque sigil
Money ig
tall hinge
i havent watched the show but im guessing its people that wont survive without the money anyways
opaque sigil
idk seems kinda silly to me ngl
But hey ik you have good taste in games so I'll lend your recommendation some weight and maybe watch it
opaque sigil
ig sometimes good shows have seemingly absurd/inane premises
fiery coral
I don't know, watching people die in (I assume, since death seems to be part of the draw) increasingly gruesome and horrifying ways does not seem like my idea of a good time 
coarse leaf
Well it depends on what kind of person you are
proud vale
Similar to the draw of the Saw movies in a way, though alot more tolerable
ANOTHER ORANGE
opaque sigil
I don't know, watching people die in (I assume, since death seems to be part of ...
I mean yeah but if the show has, like, interesting social commentary regarding the importance of money in modern society it might be worth it anyways
coarse leaf
ANOTHER ORANGE
No its me I just changed my pfp
agile kelp
I mean yeah but if the show has, like, interesting social commentary regarding t...
I think it does
proud vale
Ah you're the crow orange?
coarse leaf
Yeah
nimble radish
box chessing
nimble radish
5D chess with multiverse time travel
coarse leaf
I see, I apologise for my outburst <:notlikequirrel:468938934307520512>
You dont need to apologise lol
proud vale
5D chess with multiverse time travel
yeah that
Or conversely I can race you to land on the sun station in outer wilds
opaque sigil
#sk-discussion 5D chess tournament when
pallid flare
soon I hope
fiery coral
start with something simple like 1D first
full rune
i move my pawn to tower of valni to train until it's a queen
fiery coral
Or conversely I can race you to land on the sun station in outer wilds
now remove 'station'
nimble radish
Or conversely I can race you to land on the sun station in outer wilds
wait you can land there?
coarse leaf
How would 1d chess even work
fiery coral
Yeah
opaque sigil
wait you can land there?
Not easily
fiery coral
There's an achievement