sk-discussion

[opaque sigil]

The specs on the steam page are placeholders, copied from HK

[fallow rock]

hey guys silksong release data was offical leaked

[random fox]

I doubt they will be much different

[dreamy zenith]

silksong may be easier or harder to run than hollowknight due to optimisation

[opaque sigil]

That being said it's the same engine so yeah, probably not worlds apart

[long nimbus]

Lol

[random fox]

Dont start this discussion again please

[pallid flare]

i give up

[rapid topaz]

I mean with my old PC I ran HK at 20 fps and that wasn't even an early patch

[random fox]

Geez

[opaque sigil]

Your old pc sucked then

[rapid topaz]

I thought I had a decent machine but apparently not lol

[random fox]

Thats some nintendo quality pc

[fallow rock]

why

[opaque sigil]

bc we've had it so many times

[long nimbus]

We just had it

[dreamy zenith]

my laptop runs Hollowknight at like 40-60 fps around there

unless theres a weird 15 fps lag spike

[opaque sigil]

You'll probably be fine, then, and you can always lower the resolution or smth if you really need to

[dreamy zenith]

yeah

[pallid flare]

run on fullscreen with lowered resolution

[dreamy zenith]

lower to 720p and play windowed for higher fps

[rapid topaz]

yeah that's probably just me then. But I was frustrated to play on this PC so I've almost done the entire game on a friends PC

[pallid flare]

it'll kill your eyes but think of the frames

[random fox]

More fps > eyes

[long nimbus]

The specs will probably be slightly increased as area size seems like it might get bigger, other than that not much will probably change

[opaque sigil]

720p for a laptop screen isn't that bad

[dreamy zenith]

yeah

most laptops are 1080p

[marsh ibex]

Eyo

[rapid topaz]

The areas that lag spiked the most was Godhome and The Hive, iirc

[marsh ibex]

Is that an SA-X pfp wiza

[dreamy zenith]

yeah

[marsh ibex]

Based

[rapid topaz]

Also Queens garden a lot

[dreamy zenith]

i drew it lol

[random fox]

My old pc died so i had to play hk in a net cafe, ngl it was pretty hype beating last pantheon with my friends watching

[dreamy zenith]

mmm nice

[pallid flare]

that sounds like such an experience

[rapid topaz]

Damn that's cool. In my country there's almost no net cafe

[random fox]

Yeah, i also had the expirience of being 2 hits off of beating it on my 3rd try, and then shutting down when i lost infront of my friends

[dreamy zenith]

damn

[random fox]

Or it might have been 4th try cuz i died to nosk twice

[opaque sigil]

[random fox]

Where i am we have quite a few, its nice going once in a while with friends and playing together, or u know, having them press something on ur keyboard to make u lose since u sit next to eachother

[rapid topaz]

don't worry I know this feeling, I have a cat that jumps on keyboard when I'm about to win something

[random fox]

Btw is steins gate good

[rapid topaz]

Yeah, funny enough I watched it like 1 month ago I feel in love with the universe and the theme

[random fox]

What is it about, also is it 24 episodes

[rapid topaz]

I watched so few animes but damn this one is great

24 episodes for the 2 seasons

[random fox]

Oh its 2 seasons didnt know that

[rapid topaz]

It's a science-fiction anime about time travel paranoïa and stuff

[random fox]

Might watch it

I have nothing to watch rn, finished everything i planned to watch

[rapid topaz]

well this might be an opportunity then

[opaque sigil]

If you're looking for a show I recommend Doom Patrol

[random fox]

Never heard of it

[opaque sigil]

It's quite good

[random fox]

Gonna look it up later

[rapid topaz]

Just to clarify, 24 for each, so 48 in total

[night hull]

Rick and Morty

[random fox]

I dont use reddit

[rapid topaz]

Also Steins;Gate is originally a visual novel came out in 2009, they made an anime out of it

[fallow rock]

hey fellows who would win in a fight lace or the huntress

[random fox]

Whos the huntress

[opaque sigil]

Lace, prob

[outer fiber]

Keep forgetting how stupidly skinny lace is. Where are your guts girl

[trim estuary]

Lace

[cunning geode]

in the headcase

[opaque sigil]

Everything is

TK is arbitrarily powerful with VH

[outer fiber]

She keeps them in her pants

[trim estuary]

Void will go om nom

[trim estuary]

excuse me

[random fox]

I wonder if we are gonna get some explanation to what heppend after ghost killed the radiance, or what heppend after the pantheon ending

[trim estuary]

Probably not, no ending is canon and they want this to be separate from HK

[random fox]

Aw

[trim estuary]

We will most likely get Mr Mushroom lore though

[outer fiber]

Car keys, wallet, all my internal organs including my heart. You know, pant things

[cunning geode]

justgirlthings

[trim estuary]

Understandable

[opaque sigil]

It isn't "no ending is canon" it's "every ending is canon"

[trim estuary]

Nah that just means silksong occurs after every ending or if you’re insane before every ending

[opaque sigil]

No single ending is canon, ie no ending is more canon than any other

[random fox]

Mans pants pockets:

[opaque sigil]

Yeah, but it isn't the exclusive preceding ending

[spice plume]

I don’t like and like the idea of equal canon-ness

It makes it so there is no solid ending, and leaves it up for interpretation, but it makes adding sequels and prequels hard

[quartz rapids]

Same but it is the way it is

[opaque sigil]

It doesn't make sequels hard unless the sequel unnecessarily tangles itself up in HK

[spice plume]

Like if sealed siblings ending is just as canon as any other, it mean ss has to be a prequel

[opaque sigil]

No

[formal karma]

hollow knight's ending has absolutely no bearing on any other kingdom, so its ending doesn't matter

ergo, all ending canon

[opaque sigil]

Hornet is alive in Sealed Siblings, and one of the first things we were shown was a seal being broken, suggesting the possibility of that on the egg being broken

[spice plume]

If hornet is sealed somewhere in canon, then your breaking canon by having her escape afterwards without an explanation

[trim estuary]

Unless shade lord is going to take over everything you’re right

[formal karma]

seal breaking bugs

[opaque sigil]

Not explaining something explicitly =/= breaking canon

[formal karma]

buuuuuuuut in every other ending shade lord doesn't exist

[opaque sigil]

Which is unlikely

[trim estuary]

True

[opaque sigil]

Lord of Shades exists in DnM and Sealed Siblings (though in the latter it sealed itself in the egg)

[spice plume]

It’s like seeing someone die then having them revived. Sure, in that universe, it’s possible people can come back to life, but it seems weird and canon-breaking

[opaque sigil]

She isn't dead in sealed siblings, she's asleep, like the dreamers

[formal karma]

yea, nowhere is it EVER stated that she's dead

[spice plume]

It was an analogy

[formal karma]

ah...., my b

[marsh ibex]

dragon ball

[formal karma]

'canon breaking' in a universe where revival is possible......????

[olive bobcat]

Sealed Siblings discussion again?

[marsh ibex]

quiet sans

[formal karma]

few different balls in the air, but yea

[olive bobcat]

You love to see it

[hushed wasp]

Well uh, steel souls death mechanic is kinda more canon imo

[formal karma]

agreed

[opaque sigil]

Eh, noncanon mechanics don't make a mode less canon

Respawn is never canon in HK

[hushed wasp]

well all the other vessels cant revive and the knight really isnt different

[formal karma]

TRUE, and rgardless, hornet can be revived if the writters of the universe says she can

[opaque sigil]

Even though she isn't dead in the first place

[formal karma]

i know, i'm just sayin

[hushed wasp]

actually, hornet is dead, shes voi-

[opaque sigil]

Go on

[coarse leaf]

[zealous fiber]

when I'm in the most impatient person competition and it's a hollow knight player
https://c.tenor.com/JLQktJiNIpUAAAAM/squoop-squidward.gif

let the devs have their time also fuck you

[midnight radish]

You just made up a person and are now mad at them

[opaque sigil]

Nobody's being impatient atm

Even if they were that's an uncalled for response

Frustration is understandable but that doesn't justify open hostility

[pallid flare]

what'd I do

[tribal merlin]

don't get jebaited

[zealous fiber]

nothing also fuck you

[opaque sigil]

Trolls will be trolls

[olive bobcat]

🛢️

[pallid flare]

oil?

[random fox]

Why this E guy so angry

[zealous fiber]

some people in my server keeps ranting about silksong taking so long

[random fox]

Who asked tho

[zealous fiber]

it also happens in this server

[opaque sigil]

ok well it isn't happening now so the point stands

[pallid flare]

this isn't helping

[random fox]

Yeah, like 1 text each event then its gone, noone rly says that stuff here, atleast that ive seen

[opaque sigil]

It happens from time to time but the majority of the regulars know better

[random fox]

Damn it i cant find my trollface gif

[marsh ibex]

[pallid flare]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/812816116887715840.gif?size=64

[random fox]

Thx

[pallid flare]

here's your gif

[random fox]

Thanks for the yif

[opaque sigil]

[spice plume]

Silksong news = nonexistent
Me = sad

[tribal merlin]

maybe remember that what you want is SilkSong not SilkSong news.
There there all better now

[opaque sigil]

Dear god that capitalization is cursed

[fallow rock]

i jsut posted a bug fables gif on the hk memes

[pallid flare]

good job

[pulsar pelican]

any new news on hollowknight?

silksong*

[fallow rock]

but the release date was official leaked

[pulsar pelican]

?!?!

[tribal merlin]

there we go again
short clarification: no it wasn't

[viral pivot]

yknow that was also apparently changed

[spice plume]

It’s placeholder

[pulsar pelican]

okay bout to say I havent seen anything about an Official date

[opaque sigil]

There is nothing official about a leak, and a third party one at that

[fallow rock]

oh okay

[pulsar pelican]

Okay thank you guys

[fallow rock]

well i feel stupid now

[pulsar pelican]

You good man

[fallow rock]

but whatever back to deprission

what

[opaque sigil]

That reason being it's a placeholder and it doesn't matter what's in that slot

[pallid flare]

also can we talk about his sources

they're pretty sketch

[tribal merlin]

null doesn't have date format

[opaque sigil]

Null isn't as useful for internal testing purposes

[tribal merlin]

that would fall through any data sanity check

which each coder should always implement

[pallid flare]

i have no idea what that means but yes

[opaque sigil]

Dates don't have 0s in the day or month

[tribal merlin]

it means that if a person inputs data the program should check if it is indeed in the realm of required data

[opaque sigil]

[icy frost]

oh ya i forgot ss was leaked

[opaque sigil]

Null as in nothing

No idea what kat is

[icy frost]

i think a game

[deft mango]

silksong

[tribal merlin]

it's the German word for zero but it coding terms it doesn't necessarily mean zero

[pallid flare]

why is it even null

[tribal merlin]

because it wasn't set

[opaque sigil]

It's associated with zero/nothingness/that sort of thing

[tribal merlin]

and a variable should be initialized

so it's the "unmodified default value" if you like

[foggy dune]

stop saying its a place holder i want to be happy for a change

[pallid flare]

choose something else to be happy over

[warm bone]

It’s a placeholder

Harsh truth > blissful ignorance

[shell yacht]

copium cant change reality

[torn star]

its the official release date

yall are just on that nopium

[warm bone]

Copium

[tribal merlin]

I'm on full fudge brownieum, can recommend

[warm bone]

Yummium

[coarse leaf]

Potassium

[ocean mulch]

Potatoes have potassium

[tribal merlin]

potatoes have nicotine

[mystic pewter]

it CAN warp my perspective though!

[elfin swift]

if it's changing does that mean like, someone from nvidia is directly going in and changing it for some reason? i'm just kinda lost as to why anyone would be changing the date in a leaked, open server

[shell yacht]

no, you warp your reality

[tribal merlin]

because it's not production data and the date is meaningless so they changed it to something unambiguous

[warm bone]

Might just be a bot

[formal karma]

ah, we're talking about the worthless leak again? nice

[pallid flare]

Ozlin this is what we've been doing for the past week

[tribal merlin]

yeah I was already missing it since it wasn't talked about for 10 minutes

[formal karma]

i know, pyro

[shell yacht]

its changing because its fake and the feb date became less believable after the direct didnt mention silksong so they made up a new date

[mystic pewter]

whats the new date?

[shell yacht]

once it changes 2-3 times yall will stop believing it and start obsessing over Pax Aus again

[tribal merlin]

June 30th 2021

[pallid flare]

we need to sacrifice someone to send them back in time

[elfin swift]

if feb really was the date i feel like it'd be even less likely they'd announce someonthing at the direct, it'd be too far off from release

[torn star]

wait whats this about the date changing. did i miss something

[pallid flare]

check the pinned comment on fireb0rns latest video

[shell yacht]

you didnt miss anythimg because there was never a relevent date

[shell yacht]

waste of effort

[formal karma]

they don't check the pins here, they won't go THERE

[languid linden]

PLEASE give us leakpsa

[pallid flare]

we need ?leakpsa

[elfin swift]

i don't think it's at all unreasonable to think the feb 1st placeholder was, at some point, a rough estimate or a goal they intended to release by

[pallid flare]

i think you're wrong but i am tired of explaining it over and over again

sorry

nothing personal

[tribal merlin]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/FTBpaA4Zz0g_VbWLr9WBxxt2-KGeGkE_8YbkDFHtzSY/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/586931790208434203/851552332570296401/THEREISNONEWS.gif

[shell yacht]

?leakPSA
leaks are never valid, youre all idiots goodnight

[elfin swift]

oh man i'm so sorry i'm not terminally online and reading every last bit of conversation in #sk-discussion

[shell yacht]

you arent missimg out dont worry

[pallid flare]

hey i told you that it wasn't anything personal

you can scroll up a little to read the last time we did that

[hollow sedge]

sure, but the placeholder still doesnt mean much

[pallid flare]

and scroll up even more to see the time before that

[tribal merlin]

nvidia doesn't get exclusive information from TC, with the date not coming from TC it's also not a goal or estimate TC had

[pallid flare]

i'm so close to actually publishing the doc i made

and then linking that instead of

[languid linden]

Thank you

[shell yacht]

if anything itscomputer generated nonsense
like if i bootup my DS lite right now i cant set the date behind 2000 or past 2012

[formal karma]

might as well, pyro

[pallid flare]

here it is, don't judge me please https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nH7Gps3KvuM-GQA3gdLwow63CxaB8lNFNoQGWFZO6vg/edit?usp=sharing

[shell yacht]

man thats a whole lot just to say
fake

[pallid flare]

people don't take that as an answer

[shell yacht]

then they can go be crazy on the reddit

[pallid flare]

they can go crazy on reddit all they want

[hollow sedge]

i dont care about the placeholder, i just want some actual news bruh

[shell yacht]

wait

[trim estuary]

Have some earliestStreetDate

[formal karma]

daaaaamn pyro that doc is comprehensive

[formal karma]

imagine not wanting to publish it.... silly billy

[pallid flare]

I feel like something's missing

[tribal merlin]

https://imgflip.com/i/5oglkw

[formal karma]

18 paragraphs of laughter begining in sarcasm and ending in genuine?

[tribal merlin]

btw I put the wrong year deliberately

[hollow sedge]

the date was changed to june 30th, 2021? wut

[mystic pewter]

when is pax australia

[pallid flare]

wait should I add that fireb0rn said that

[tribal merlin]

get rekt son the game is already out what are you doing here

[hollow sedge]

yeah def

[mystic pewter]

does anyone really think that the date changing really lends it any more credibility?

[pallid flare]

I think that it leads to less

[opaque sigil]

Only people who are already willing to jump through hoops to rationalize things

[tribal merlin]

how would that argument work on a logical level

[languid linden]

Eh

[pallid flare]

like half of fireb0rns arguments don't make any sense anymore with it

[opaque sigil]

Conspiratorial "nvidia is trying to hide it" thinking

So not at all

[tribal merlin]

hiding it after it was out on the internet... yeah that's a valid strat

[opaque sigil]

ikr

[trim estuary]

Me?

[pallid flare]

don't get me wrong, I really like fireb0rn, but it feels like that video was trying to be malicious in some way

[opaque sigil]

Do you interpret the date changing as supporting evidence for Feb 1?

[tribal merlin]

he's a youtuber and his youtube income is dependant on views. shall I go on or...

[trim estuary]

Uhhh

[pallid flare]

i mean yeah

[hollow sedge]

it def is misleading a lot of people

[pallid flare]

but that's a bit too much

the suggestions are staying on

[shell yacht]

the term is clickbait

and money

[languid linden]

I wouldn't say malicious exactly, I'd say intentionally misleading to a degree

[pallid flare]

yeah malicious is a bit too much

but there's another motive than informing the community

[opaque sigil]

Self-interest

Acting in self-interest isn't malicious though

[languid linden]

Paying the bills I guess

[pallid flare]

like I said, malicious was way too strong of a word

[tribal merlin]

yeah "negligent" might hit the spot better

[pallid flare]

is there anything I should clear up in the doc

[opaque sigil]

Doc?

[pallid flare]

the suggestions are on

[pallid flare]

^^

[languid linden]

doc

[opaque sigil]

Ah, thx

[hollow sedge]

"After the leak, this date became null. After my video, it seems this date was changed to June 30th, 2021."

[trim estuary]

And after this comment it was changed to December 21st, 2023 /s

[pastel silo]

why do you put speculations like:" it is possible that some employee just..." as an anti argument lol

[pallid flare]

oh yeah should probably seperate that

yeah gonna disable the suggestions

[trim estuary]

Can I spam your email with requests to edit on all 252 of my emails

[pallid flare]

yeah do that

[trim estuary]

aight

[warm bone]

History repeats

[pallid flare]

my brain is melting a little, give me a moment

[opaque sigil]

Why would anybody expect it to be out before 2020 at any point, that wouldn't be enough time to make a game

[languid linden]

It looked pretty done to most people in the trailer

[formal karma]

if it were the original plan, MAYBE 2020

[opaque sigil]

So? It's a trailer, the point is to pick good looking things

[formal karma]

but then they oopsied and whole-assed new game

[hollow sedge]

i think it was because Nintendo said that silksong would be "coming soon"

[opaque sigil]

It was an offhand comment, by no means committal

[crimson rapids]

ss mods be like

hornet with a gun

[opaque sigil]

And besides, "coming soon" in the industry doesn't mean that much

[languid linden]

Hollowpoint modder said he's not making a gun mod for ss

[tribal merlin]

warp drive coming soon

[opaque sigil]

Did he?

[languid linden]

Do you call people who make mods devs?

[tribal merlin]

you call them modders

[midnight radish]

Tbh I feel like by the e3 demo it was pretty clear the game wasn’t done, deep docks was very clearly unfinished

[pastel silo]

btw even tho the date leak may mean nothing by itself what about the cheesy Leth's response when asked about it? One could speculate that perhaps he knows that the game will indeed release somewhere around that time or even before thus he doesn't need to manage fanbase's hype and expectations even if the date by itself is wrong

[languid linden]

Too bad, they're called devs now!

[hollow sedge]

what did leth say?

[pastel silo]

check his twitter replies

[opaque sigil]

Leth said nothing

[trim estuary]

Leth said “No not really =)”

[tribal merlin]

Leth said, and I quote "Not really. =))

I'm getting fucking snailed aren't I

[opaque sigil]

He made a smily face (=)) and people took it as confirmation of february

[pallid flare]

oh yeah I might mention leth's reply

[formal karma]

also its leth... people still say 'but why did he tweet indie world?'

[pastel silo]

no confirmation lol...read what i said

[opaque sigil]

Not talking about you

[pastel silo]

okay then

[pallid flare]

he's not allowed to talk about this kind of stuff is he

[hollow sedge]

https://twitter.com/griffinmatta/status/1438950497164034048 i mean he said no

Matthew Griffin (@griffinmatta)

@Hollowknightost No not really. =)

Twitter · Sep 17, 2021, 7:38 PM

[opaque sigil]

Not really, no

[pastel silo]

yeaa but he was allowed when steam date got leaked

[pallid flare]

"yes let me just confirm the release date of Silksong"

[opaque sigil]

For all we know he got clearance from TC on that front

[trim estuary]

Leth loses no matter what

[pallid flare]

did he?
I swear he just let us see for ourselves

[pastel silo]

no he said it was a placeholder and then later he told us why did he choose that specific date

[opaque sigil]

Plus the steam leak appeared a bit more reliable than this

And Nvidia's already commented

[pastel silo]

he also warned us about no e3, and no release date info in edge ...those are less similiar but still...when it comes to fanbase getting hyped over something that isnt gonna happen he seems to step in

[hollow sedge]

steam leak? wat is this

[opaque sigil]

He's stepped in a few times, he hasn't always or even often

[trim estuary]

What if they leaked 18000 games just for silksong marketin-

[languid linden]

It was like june 2020 or something

[pastel silo]

Like he could at least say that the leak has nothing to do with the actual release..yet he reply with ....that

[opaque sigil]

Ah yes the most of all leaps

[primal oriole]

worth noting that he didn't actually explain what the date was until after it happened

[pallid flare]

where was that leth tweet again

[primal oriole]

he said it was a placeholder and hid it more than a year before iirc, but he didn't say why it was chosen for a while

[pallid flare]

I need it as source

[languid linden]

https://twitter.com/griffinmatta/status/1438950497164034048

Matthew Griffin (@griffinmatta)

@Hollowknightost No not really. =)

Twitter · Sep 17, 2021, 7:38 PM

Or did you mean the steam one

When it's ready, and yes that is the best answer we have

[pallid flare]

thanks

[limpid cliff]

An announcement will appear at 22nd October 2021

[pastel silo]

he didn't step in when people were hyped for directs but those are cases of expectations being created out of literally nothing...leaks at least give incentive and in those cases he always warned us

[trim estuary]

FAKE
It’s December 21st not October 22nd

[opaque sigil]

There has never been a leak before, and even if you did count the steam glitch that's too small a sample size

[pallid flare]

that's gonna take a while bud

[hollow sedge]

🙂 , might have 4 different meanings, even more because there are more then 4 dimensions

[limpid cliff]

We need a list with dates and people's thoughts of announcements

[pastel silo]

like when you type ''silksong release date'' in google look at what jumps onto you...he cared when people sent emails to TC regarding the satiric twitter account you think they arent bombarded now , hyping up february release date? if they don't plan to release the game by then would he really response with that?

[trim estuary]

[opaque sigil]

There are any number of reasons he might choose to respond like that

[limpid cliff]

You know where it's from? :)

[trim estuary]

YO MAMA

[pallid flare]

no, just that 20211 is gonna take a while

[limpid cliff]

Right, edited it

[pastel silo]

and now let's suppose that the leak date is inaccurate, however they plan to release the game by then or at most by the end of february...in that case it doesn't matter if the fanbase is getting hyped over inaccurate date because they will receive what they are hyping towards regardless, in that case his response would make a lot of sense

[opaque sigil]

Pure conjecture

[tribal merlin]

his response also makes a lot of sense if the date means nothing at all and they don't know release date themselves

[hollow sedge]

silksong may even release this year....

[pallid flare]

even if the leak is actually accurate then this wouldn't happen

[pastel silo]

also considering his past behaviour of lowering our expectations when something blew up regarding potential release date

[pallid flare]

with the entire "earliestStreetDate" thing and all

[tribal merlin]

he did that a few times and it didn't particularly help

[opaque sigil]

He did it once. A sample size of one is beyond unimpressive

[tribal merlin]

nah he did at least twice iirc

[hollow sedge]

i dont think team cherry would plan a release date 5 months out

[opaque sigil]

Two isn't much better

[tribal merlin]

yeah I just wanted to be pedantic, it's my half German genes

[pastel silo]

in terms of leaked dates, sure it happened only once, but he did it in all major cases of invalid hype culmulating....e3, edge release date, riddles leading up to release date

[opaque sigil]

Those are not all cases of invalid hype accumulation

There have been many times where he has said nothing

[pallid flare]

the edge stuff was near winter

[pastel silo]

only when people were hyping directs

[pallid flare]

and the steam leak was in summer

[pastel silo]

but as i said that's fanbase getting hyped based on nothing at all not even leaks

[pallid flare]

ari went online once, that was enough cause for concern

[pastel silo]

it's all speculation, im just saying that it's weird that he responded the way he responded

[tribal merlin]

the fanbase took down the TC SS website in february and then got excited because "the website is down, they're putting the release date in"

[trim estuary]

wow Ari on discord insane

[opaque sigil]

Perhaps but that doesn't mean any significance can be attributed to it

[trim estuary]

Oh yeah that was my favorite HK related event this year

[formal karma]

remember when TC retweeted a random tweet about having friday off? and everyone freaked out? leth didn't say anything against it so.... i guess we're getting something

[steel python]

I think about this whole leaks thing that- don’t get your hopes up but hey, if you want something to wait for go ahead? There’s no real proof it’s real is the thing.

[hollow sedge]

Ari online on discord is pretty damn rare

[formal karma]

and yet it's happened twice this month aaaaand nothing

[tribal merlin]

3rd time's the charm

[formal karma]

wait, one time might have been august...

[opaque sigil]

Ari: goes online
#sk-discussion: "It's a sign!!!!!!"

[outer fiber]

Man I don’t even care about the release date. I just want any news at all

[pallid flare]

tbf the last time ari went online we got edge

[hollow sedge]

wasn't ari online right around the time edge came out or something

[opaque sigil]

So?

[pallid flare]

or well, ari and william

[formal karma]

a month before

[still owl]

I'm on the opposite end, I want the release date. We've already seen too much of SS

[trim estuary]

insert stickman pointer raising finger to object, then lowering it meme

[pallid flare]

i have no idea what you mean

[outer fiber]

Just tell me you’re working on it... tell us how it’s going. Even if it’s not much or even at all I want to know how it’s going

[pallid flare]

oooh

[still owl]

I mean
Id be surprised if tc wasn't working on ss

[opaque sigil]

Not like they've got any other games announced

[pallid flare]

there's nothing showing that something has gone wrong

[formal karma]

they're working on it

[tribal merlin]

I assume they stop to eat and sleep and stuff

[mystic pewter]

no that will not happen

[pallid flare]

we must assume that they're still working if they haven't said otherwise

[hollow sedge]

well we know they are working on it, not how its going though

[outer fiber]

After 2020 and the fact that basically just 2 people are working on it, I wouldn’t be surprised at all by burnout

[pallid flare]

3

[trim estuary]

All I want to know is how far in development they think they are

[opaque sigil]

3 people, and by all accounts things are going smoothly

[pallid flare]

the vine was forgotten

[outer fiber]

Big difference

[pallid flare]

2 to 3 is a big difference

[opaque sigil]

Yes, it's 50% more people

[pallid flare]

especially in game development

[heady iron]

here's an hd one for y'all

[hollow sedge]

they may be in development hell rn, constantly increasing the scope of the game without being satisfied with it still

[trim estuary]

Yeah, the bells swing now

[outer fiber]

I’m being sarcastic dear... the number wasn’t that important

[tribal merlin]

especially when the 3rd one is actually the coder

[coarse leaf]

For how long has silksong been developed?

[still owl]

From what leth said, it does sound like that

[pallid flare]

this is awesome

[pallid flare]

it is

[opaque sigil]

Like 3 years or so

[pallid flare]

more people working on it -> more things can be worked on at once

[still owl]

More, if you count the fact they've taken stuff from old HK concept art

[pallid flare]

quick maths

[languid linden]

They've been fully focusing on it since Godmaster came out, I assume. They might have been working on it since before HK came out

[trim estuary]

Like the blundering obl- oh.

[outer fiber]

Regardless I heard a random tidbit somewhere that TC was working a lot of crunch days to get silksong done. Just worried for them

[still owl]

His sacrifice was necessary

[trim estuary]

They have been working on it since HK came out in 2017

[still owl]

I wouldn't worry about TC

[mystic pewter]

I hope ss has a little more required content than hk but a lot more optional areas you can just stumble upon like the hive or howling peaks

[opaque sigil]

Seeing as there's no external pressure on them, those were probably voluntary

[tribal merlin]

though they only had a unity coder from the time godmaster released so they probably didn't do too much serious stuff before that

[mystic pewter]

I still hope that they're doing OK though, even if its their own choice (which is leagues better than the contrary)

[pallid flare]

as far as we can tell, development is going smoothly

[tribal merlin]

there's a difference between using a visual scripting thingie to actual C#

[opaque sigil]

If they do extra work when they feel like it I don't see that as cause for concern

[trim estuary]

Can we get 120FPS cutscenes /s

[pallid flare]

remember that the people working on Silksong are humans too

[still owl]

Now that they have a huge budget with HK cash, and aren't eating meat ends and croissants
TC probably doing swell

[hollow sedge]

are you sure

[outer fiber]

Anyway I’m not hoping for a release date out of the blue but a gen update on progress would do a lot to soothe

[mystic pewter]

oh yeah and I want more cutscenes why is the only one that isnt at the beginning or end of the game the CoT one

[opaque sigil]

I mean there are nailmaster scenes and the nailsmithing

[coarse leaf]

It would be appreciatable for the game to come out carefully developed instead of ''rushed''

[outer fiber]

This implies there’s a TC hierarchy

[still owl]

I have good news for you Silva

[opaque sigil]

I mean Jack's the newcomer, so ig kinda

[trim estuary]

No he says 3rd because Jack was the third to join the team

[outer fiber]

Ahhhh

[pallid flare]

jack isn't part of the original crew

[coarse leaf]

what are they

[pallid flare]

wasn't there this david guy?

[trim estuary]

wait if Jack codes
what does William do

[still owl]

TC is taking their lovely time with SS

[tribal merlin]

william isn't a coder

[outer fiber]

Voice act and promote

[opaque sigil]

William and Ari do everything else

[hollow sedge]

william does programming too right?

[pallid flare]

wasn't william the one doing the code?

[tribal merlin]

William is the game designer

[trim estuary]

Yea that’s what I thought

[pallid flare]

and Ari the art

[still owl]

William does minimal code, he's very much in the same position as ari, without making sprites

[tribal merlin]

Guys have you ever read that page on the TC website where they tell us how they made Hollow Knight?

[trim estuary]

Even the music

[tribal merlin]

look at the bottom
they used a visual scripting framework

[trim estuary]

No I read the unity one though

[outer fiber]

...no idea why you want to die on this hill but I’m not inclined to stop you. Go ham

[coarse leaf]

hollow knight is the second most beautifully designed game i've ever played, so i have high expectations on ss

[heady iron]

that doesn't mean there isn't a lot of programming involved

[formal karma]

i think that's why SS is taking so long

[tribal merlin]

I believe that's the same page

[pallid flare]

there is a huge difference between having 2 people on the team and 3

[tribal merlin]

at the bottom it says they rarely script themselves and mainly use playmaker

whereas Jack seems to be proficient in C# for unity, which is in another league

[coarse leaf]

So you mean that SS is taking so long due to the previous game being so highly detailed that the players have high expectations on the next game which makes the developers anxious about not being able to come up with a good game? Wdym

[pallid flare]

it's also nice that they're creating many small details

[still owl]

Whats the first?

[coarse leaf]

sotc

[tribal merlin]

SilkSong

[heady iron]

it doesn't say they rarely scripted

[foggy dune]

im going to bc even if it isnt the date it shouldnt be much later than the 1st. if its not we will prolly be told b4 then

[tribal merlin]

"While the team does have some coding experience and did write custom scripts for certain elements, they created all the enemies and interactive elements using Playmaker, a five-star visual-scripting package."

[still owl]

Cheesoid is mostly right though. William does know how to code a bit, he made websites before TC

[heady iron]

that's doesn't say they rarely made scripts

[opaque sigil]

cheesoid was paraphrasing

[tribal merlin]

not in those words, but if you read between the lines it does say they didn't code a lot

[still owl]

Or it at least suggests at the idea

[heady iron]

they kinda did tho, if you dive into the code yourself

[pallid flare]

I heard that hollow knight's code was pure spaghetti

[still owl]

Well, now its more fleshed out. Check out 2017 hk haha
Its still pretty spaghetti yeah

[pallid flare]

worse than anything many have ever seen

[still owl]

:tcArriveWithSpaghetti:

[pallid flare]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/831250080957857822.gif?size=64

[tribal merlin]

that's probably why they put an actual coder on their team for SS

[still owl]

I mean, they had a coder back then too

[pallid flare]

yeah right

that david guy no one knows about

[languid linden]

Yes

[coarse leaf]

hk code is trashy? i cant understand

[still owl]

No wait.fordo
Find the one with the graduate

[pallid flare]

was this guy's name even david?

[pallid flare]

you could say... hehe....-

that it was full of bugs, lol get it??

[languid linden]

The what

[still owl]

One sec

[opaque sigil]

Pretty sure it was David Kazi

[pallid flare]

oh yeah that was his name

[languid linden]

Who's David Kazi? I only know Jack Vine

[drowsy pike]

Is this the script for the hollow Knight fight

[languid linden]

Yeah

[drowsy pike]

Pepega

[coarse leaf]

uh

i've never seen stuff like this in scripting, interesting

[still owl]

Be intimidated

[pallid flare]

i mean

[opaque sigil]

It will bite

[pallid flare]

it works

don't fix what isn't already broken

[opaque sigil]

But is it the most efficient?

[pallid flare]

does efficiency matter in this context?

[coarse leaf]

as long as it works and doesn't fry people's pc it's good enough

[pallid flare]

if it's harmful then it might be classified as broken

[opaque sigil]

It could run better or more poorly depending

[heady iron]

it's playmaker, all thoughts of optimization have already been thrown out the window

[tribal merlin]

yeah and it's just a dream to debug

[pallid flare]

as long as it works

[coarse leaf]

disconnect every cable and connect them again

[pallid flare]

don't touch anything that might cause issues

[opaque sigil]

But sometimes something could work better

[tribal merlin]

"as long as it works" doesn't even get you in the door in IT

[cloud pike]

silksong? more like

silksoff

[tribal merlin]

they'll burn you down in the parking lot

[pallid flare]

it totally won't

[opaque sigil]

Well for SS there's nothing to break by trying to work out a better way

[fallow rock]

also who is GFN

[pallid flare]

Geforce now

[cloud pike]

geforce later

[coarse leaf]

geforce before

[tribal merlin]

Gefarce Nope

[fallow rock]

oh what does that mean

[coarse leaf]

geforce but now

[opaque sigil]

geforce nonsense

[mystic pewter]

Honestly I was originally thinking that the boss count for silksong was gonna be around the same as hk but now hearing about how TC is making the game I would say its around 50-100% larger

[coarse leaf]

why u using percentages for this lol

btw it would be good

[pallid flare]

percentages sound 85% more believable

[opaque sigil]

Percentages are easier

[coarse leaf]

tru ngl i didnt think like that

[cloud pike]

gonna be large.

[coarse leaf]

i hated the idea of having hornet as the character cuz i used to hate her as a boss
but ngl the string thingy is cool

[opaque sigil]

Hornet was a fun boss imo

[tribal merlin]

how could you hate Hornet

[pallid flare]

hornet 2 broke me the first time

[opaque sigil]

I like the mobile, smaller bosses, it feels more like a fight and less like a sequence of spacing challenges, like Rad

[fallow rock]

day by day this theard decends like deepnest and it keeps going until silksong comes out

[coarse leaf]

because of hornet 2 lol
i spent +- 5 hours trying to beat her

yes i'm bad

[tribal merlin]

yet Hornet gives you the perfect advice of how to beat her - "git gud"

[opaque sigil]

[coarse leaf]

will hornet have powers?

[formal karma]

yes

[coarse leaf]

that cool

[formal karma]

she gets weaver magic- supposedly

[tribal merlin]

she'll be over 9000

[opaque sigil]

Silk powers

[pallid flare]

she'll be a speedy spider

[formal karma]

they SEEM equipable, as well

[opaque sigil]

I'm still hoping those are augments, since I want to have multiple options for silk abilities

[coarse leaf]

mantis claw as spidey hands

except she just jumps right

[high hedge]

Silksong speedrun

[coarse leaf]

lol

[high hedge]

Currently at however many days since the announcement. Gonna be a personal best

[formal karma]

maaaaan watching silksong speedruns evolve...

[coarse leaf]

silksong 130% 11:36:24

[languid linden]

Watching SS lore evolve is gonna be fun

[high hedge]

Whoever beats Silksong first has to quickly announce that they have the best speedrun

[languid linden]

In the beginning of HK, people unironically thought Hornet was Void

[coarse leaf]

yall think SS is a prequel to the story or a sequel

[languid linden]

sequel

[high hedge]

Prequel slots in easier

[opaque sigil]

Not really

Chronological sequel makes more sense, narratively neither

[dry valley]

sequel

[languid linden]

Before you say SS can't be a sequel because of SS, SBBs exist

[formal karma]

think its a sequel but i typically argue in favor of prequel

[opaque sigil]

[nimble radish]

2 hollow 2 knight

[hollow sedge]

a sequel would have a lot more mystery storywise, especially since some of the hollow knight endings leave a lot of questions*

[tribal merlin]

it's probably not a narrative sequel

more like it takes place after the events
but likely not going into detail and explanations

[livid oracle]

I cant wait to fight hornet again in SS

[hollow sedge]

if thats the case then i dont think it really matters if silksong is a prequel/sequel storywise

[opaque sigil]

I mean it matters in terms of viable SS endings

[hollow sedge]

it doesnt really matter since the events arent significant too hollow knight

[tribal merlin]

a prequel would take away the possibility of Hornet being fuckin dead at the end of SS

[opaque sigil]

Or otherwise committed to staying

[livid oracle]

My guess is its a sequel, story is loosely tied but I think it will have to do with her mom and the weavers

[hollow sedge]

oh that's true, i dont think its a prequel storywise anyways

[dry valley]

shadow hornet

[wraith terrace]

Upside down hornet

[tribal merlin]

that's just Australian Hornet

[opaque sigil]

Claude Hornet

[tribal merlin]

oh wait...

[orchid river]

Has anybody else had a dream where SS came out and then you woke up…

[opaque sigil]

Not me

[wise quest]

Literally today

[orchid river]

Lucky

[wise quest]

Came here to check

[fallow rock]

because its personal lord to the creator

[pallid flare]

what does that mean

[wraith terrace]

What’s an SSB?

[opaque sigil]

There is no verb in this sentence

[livid oracle]

Wouldnt it be right side up hornet then?

[opaque sigil]

Our Hornets are upside down

[livid oracle]

Exactly

[orchid river]

https://youtu.be/fWAX7GnXSDI this is so addicting to watch

[mystic pewter]

SAD-ist before DreamSMP 👍
SAD-ist after DreamSMP 👍 (they are very talented)

[orchid river]

Yes

[pallid flare]

based

[dry valley]

super smash brothers

[opaque sigil]

I assume it was supposed to be "SBB," as in "seal breaking bug"

[wraith terrace]

Oh I see

[pallid flare]

I thought it was Sealed Siblings

[mystic pewter]

tammo why does your pfp change so frequently

[opaque sigil]

Because

[wraith terrace]

Both kinda work

[opaque sigil]

In context it only makes sense as seal breaking bugs, you wouldn't say "sealed siblings is a possibility because sealed siblings exist"

[wraith terrace]

I misread I think

[fallow rock]

yeah i only change my in a month

[pallid flare]

i only glanced at the message

tbf its 1 am

[languid linden]

Oh wait I meant SBB

[opaque sigil]

[serene patrol]

[fallow rock]

super banking bros

[languid linden]

Sure

[serene patrol]

Super bmash bros

[fallow rock]

hornet for smash

[tidal prawn]

Silkbsobng

[crimson rapids]

silk song grub song and weaver song yes

[red solstice]

i had a dream where team cherry did a direct for there games in like 2045 and didnt show silksong they showed a patch for hollow knight and a weird farming game

[orchid river]

RIP

[tribal merlin]

Graig's Gardening Imperium

[formal karma]

I had a dream where people were all reasonable about silksongs development and news

[midnight radish]

Why do people keep coming in here saying stuff like this nobody is being impatient

[pastel silo]

yea like imagine being excited for updates for your most anticipated game

if that's being unreasonable then I don't know what is

[opaque sigil]

Blatant straw man but ok

[warm bone]

I love me a strawman

[midnight radish]

I mean I just see more people come in here complaining about others being impatient than people in here being actually impatient

[opaque sigil]

Lucky you ig

[serene chasm]

Usually when people are complaining about impatient people its because someone just complained about TC taking too long or some bullshit like that

[midnight radish]

Yeah well this one was completely unprompted lmao

[chrome imp]

I just see people either memeing about it never coming out or telling TC to take all the time they need, or a combination of both

[pastel silo]

Usually all it takes is for someone to express a desire for news tho

[proud vale]

Morning Silkpals ™️

[serene chasm]

Hi Orange

[nimble radish]

morning ornaage

[midnight radish]

Yeah I definitely see some people with very interesting ideas of what being impatient means

[proud vale]

Hope everyone's doing well

[warm bone]

honestly I see more people complaining about people complaining about people who complain about news

[spark pine]

I live in Scotland so it is far from morning

But good morning anyways

[nimble radish]

it's morning in scotland

it's after midnight at least

[proud vale]

Is the weakest link on yet?

[spark pine]

Yeah 12:51

[opaque sigil]

Technically morning

[spark pine]

If you wanna be weird about it yeah

Not exactly going to have breakfast anytime soon though

[proud vale]

I used to live there and the weakest link would be a highlight of the day

[opaque sigil]

Why not

[proud vale]

Also a crisp can of Vimto

[opaque sigil]

Don't let society hold you back with its bullshit, eat breakfast at 1am

[spark pine]

Can’t say I’ve heard of it, I’d it a game show or something?

Sounds familiar

[proud vale]

Haha yeah it's a pretty old game show

[serene chasm]

Are your originally from scotland orange?

[spark pine]

They have vimto diluting juice now and it slaps so hard

[proud vale]

Nooo we just lived there for a while when I was a kid Curly

[formal karma]

You are the weakest link. Goodbye

[opaque sigil]

Man all game shows really do look the same

[proud vale]

Vimto diluting juice? like cordial?

[rapid topaz]

scary show

[spark pine]

Yeah

[rapid topaz]

Imagine being the weakest link

[serene chasm]

cool

[stiff burrow]

Ever heard of 101 ways to leave a game show?
Certainly looks different-

[proud vale]

:weakestlinkF:

[spark pine]

As a Scottish person I can confirm that Irn bru is a 6/10 drink

[proud vale]

Yeah it was okay but Vimto better imo

[spark pine]

100%

[serene chasm]

Next you are going to tell me that you dont wear kilts all the time. What else do you lie about?!

[spark pine]

I do actually own a kilt

Only for special occasions however

[serene chasm]

Like fighting the English?

[spark pine]

Can’t say I do no

[proud vale]

I was fighting the english when I was a kid over there bro, get your act together

[spark pine]

I’ll sort them out next time I see some

[proud vale]

hahah what's a flock of the english called

[spark pine]

Idk

Wanks

Hopefully there aren’t any English in this chat

[serene chasm]

Is this supposed to be a joke, Orange?

[cerulean sable]

obligatory shoehorning hallownest to be part of pharloom is lame

[proud vale]

Yes

[formal karma]

Yep

[serene chasm]

Agreed. Subtle references would be the best.

[cerulean sable]

ive seen a lot of people hoping its a thing

like you a break a wall then boom

hallownest

[proud vale]

It doesn't make lore sense

[opaque sigil]

bruh but we see the citadel bugs taking Hornet through the wastes

[proud vale]

We blatantly see the guards carry Hornet a fair way from HN to Pharloom

[hollow terrace]

Hallownest is narnia

[cerulean sable]

yeah the intro kinda implies its a long ass journey

and weavers were mentioned to have left their home, would be awkward to see that home be like 3 steps way from hallownest

[opaque sigil]

Not enough fundamentalist christian overtones

[proud vale]

There will certainly be subtle references to the PK, the Knight, void and Hallownest but I don't think they would tie them together that closely

[opaque sigil]

PK and Hallownest, sure, TK and Void, no reason to expect so

[proud vale]

I mean we already have a nod to void kind of in the form of Sharpe

[opaque sigil]

[hollow terrace]

Maybe they took a really long side path from the normal 2 minute walk to pharloom

[proud vale]

There's some kind of T intersection with HN and PL

[midnight radish]

Hallownest and pharloom are just two neighbors backyards

[proud vale]

But I think it would be a huge missed opportunity to not at least have really subtle easter eggs toward those elements, but I would want to have to work to get them

That's kind of a great thing in sequels

[opaque sigil]

I just don't see Void coming up naturally

[proud vale]

I'm sure TC have studied what makes sequels great and how to best subtly nod to previous games elements, especially ones that are open ended and maybe don't have a solid answer per say

[worldly dune]

just take a bike to pharloom its that easy

[serene chasm]

Character: Man today sucked
Hornet: You think your day sucked, try seeing your entire kingdom and everyone you know get infected because and Moth god got angry that her people forgot her and started to get into peoples dreams and my dad who was the king of Hallownest decided to create a bunch of hollowed out vessels with the queen, who isnt my mom, my mom was the queen of the weavers in Deepnest, to find the purest one so he could force the radiance into the vessel and stop the infection. Well that didnt work and Hallownest fell into ruin. So yeah. Your day didnt suck

[analog forge]

Tbf that didnt happen in a day

[proud vale]

Hahah nice - oh yeah also my mum died to have me be half higher being

[analog forge]

That happened over years and years

[serene chasm]

[midnight radish]

Do you think silksong will take place in one day like hollow knight

[worldly dune]

probs not

[shell yacht]

HK didnt

[midnight radish]

Wasnt it confirmed that it did

[shell yacht]

no

[proud vale]

Also Wilbo has posted on twitter I think three days in a row, release must be close

[midnight radish]

I swear I’ve heard that it all takes place in one night before

[warm bone]

the day stuff again

[serene chasm]

Yeah. It just doesnt have a day night cycle so how long it takes is unknown.

Day/Night cycle in SS please

[midnight radish]

Guess I’m wrong, though it would be cool if it was

[shell yacht]

the stasis is metaphorical, long night is because the two light gods are dead

[analog forge]

Which 2 light gods?

[opaque sigil]

PK, Rad

[midnight radish]

I mean maybe but I like to imagine it’s all in one night because I enjoy games like that

[analog forge]

Radiance isnt drad though

[proud vale]

I'm not sure if a day night cycle would work lol because all the light sources are not from the actual changing sun

[shell yacht]

she sure as hell isnt illuminationg anything anymore

[opaque sigil]

She's (partially) sealed away

[shell yacht]

daynight cycle underground

[midnight radish]

Something about the break of dawn at the end of a dark game is satisfying for me

[serene chasm]

I know it wouldnt, but now Im picturing Pharloom at night and it would be so cool looking

[proud vale]

What, isn't rad definitely dead

[opaque sigil]

It's a cavern, it'd look the same

[shell yacht]

not during the game or in 2 endings

[serene chasm]

She is both alive and dead

[proud vale]

Oh no, we're falling into hk-discussion territory

[serene chasm]

no worse. #hk-lore

[warm bone]

ew

[proud vale]

oh shit, I wouldn't go that far but you're kind of right

[opaque sigil]

#hk-lore is fine

[warm bone]

shut up

let us blindly hate

[opaque sigil]

No

[shell yacht]

ill blind you instead

[agile ivy]

ok but mossbag is cool tho

[proud vale]

Eventually there's gonna be an ss-lore channel and that would be pog

[serene chasm]

I fear no channel, but that thing. It scares me

[opaque sigil]

ss-lore and ss-help

[proud vale]

ss-meme

[warm bone]

🤮

[opaque sigil]

idt an ss-meme would be necessary

[serene chasm]

silksong will be too cool to meme

[warm bone]

best to keep the filth in one place

[opaque sigil]

Like how the art channels and #hk-general could both be dual-purpose

[livid oracle]

I personally just don't see how they could do a prequel but that's just me

[agile ivy]

Prequel into a sequel

[livid oracle]

I imagine they would want to expand on the lore of the first game and a prequel doesn't really let them do that

[shell yacht]

they cant do a prequel people are insane

[tulip drift]

silksong-modding-development & co. incoming

[agile ivy]

First we go through pharloom then HK normally, Godmaster ending, then we go from there

[opaque sigil]

Reasonable conclusion, flawed logic

[livid oracle]

I could be wrong, but that's just my opinion

[opaque sigil]

SS is a "clean slate" wrt that sort of thing

[frigid basin]

topic?

[midnight radish]

What if there’s a flashback to hallownest

[livid oracle]

How is it a clean slate

[pearl meadow]

Someone say lore?

[opaque sigil]

New kingdom new lore

[frigid basin]

yay

[pearl meadow]

Wouldn’t SS-lore just be discussed in regular lore? Since spoilers are allowed in there

[livid oracle]

I just feel like there's so much to expand on from the first game but maybe they are doing something totally different

[opaque sigil]

From Edge

So Team Cherry is not out to make a more difficult sequel, then: they’re hoping for it to be a “comparable” test of skill to Hollow Knight, Pellen says, while Gibson explains that starting with the clean slate of an entirely new kingdom with its own lore and new characters is another way in which Silksong is designed to be “a perfect jumping-on point for new players. We’re trying to be really, really mindful that we want this to be a game that new people can come into, and experience as their first Hollow Knight game – that it sits alongside the original game, and the difficulty also sits alongside the game in that way.”

[warm bone]

or they could just not expand on any of it

[opaque sigil]

HK's narrative is finished

[marsh ibex]

there’s also not much to expand on

[opaque sigil]

I mean there's plenty that they could expand on but not much that merits it

[midnight radish]

Hollow Knight 3 will be horror themed and only have one enemy and will end with a fire

[marsh ibex]

a lot of things that aren’t answered wouldn’t really fit in the game yknow

it might feel like the end of a series that feels the compulsion to cap off every loose end

[midnight radish]

And then they’ll make a hollow knight 4 which completely ruins the lore because the animations in hollow knight 3 weren’t good enough

[serene chasm]

It wont be all knew things, but they will teach you about the stuff you need to know and not expect you to know about it by playing HK. Like Weavers from example.

[opaque sigil]

I mean they would have to in order to make it understandable for new players

[proud vale]

They also said that after they make other games they may eventually come back to the HK series

[pearl meadow]

Did they?

[opaque sigil]

Maybe not in those exact words but something like that

[pearl meadow]

Ah, cool beans

[opaque sigil]

Nope

[livid oracle]

HK: Zotes Revenge - 2041

[midnight radish]

How much will silksong sell within 10 minutes of releasing

[untold inlet]

leaked silksong

[opaque sigil]

Whatever that is it doesn't belong here

[steep verge]

ok

sowwy

[serene chasm]

you cant just drop a link like that and expect people to trust it.

[midnight radish]

My guess is at least a few tens of thousands of copies

[untold inlet]

it's the 5th(?) most wishlisted game on steam rn so probably accurate

nvm down to 6th

[opaque sigil]

Not to mention the switch audience

[untold inlet]

but new world releases literally tomorrow so

[midnight radish]

6th actually

Also what the fuck is party animals and why does it have more wishlists than silksong

[serene chasm]

Furry Gang Beasts

[untold inlet]

stoopid cause not silksong

[midnight radish]

I mean I’m just saying that because I’ve literally never heard of it

And I’ve heard of nearly every other game on the top wish listed games

[serene chasm]

It had a demo a while back and apparently a lot of people liked it

[fleet temple]

by liked it you mean a bunch of popular youtubers played it and people joined the bandwagon

[opaque sigil]

Close enough

Effect's the same

[torn star]

party animals demo was really fun

no fricking clue why tf it isnt out yet though. it was perfectly playable and that was like over a year ago. what could they possibly be adding to it god only knows

[olive bobcat]

Spiderheck demo

[elder steppe]

what are your guys best switch metroidvania recommendations to play, while waiting for silksong? 💞

[gray lance]

Hollow Knight

[fleet temple]

hollow knight

[elder steppe]

🧍🏻

[warm bone]

super metroid

[elder steppe]

something that i haven’t played already🥲

is elder lilies worth it?

[gray lance]

Real answer: Blasphemous

[elder steppe]

saw it on yt the other day looked quite nice

[midnight radish]

Being real, ender Lillies is like, not bad? I guess?

[olive bobcat]

mario

[midnight radish]

I played it through all up until the final boss and just couldn’t go on because it’s pretty unbalanced

[vivid bison]

Ender Lilies was great for me

[midnight radish]

I didn’t hate it or anything but i really didn’t like it either

[warm bone]

while I would not classify outer wilds as a metroidvania, I still believe it scratched the itch of a world that opens up the more you explore

[fleet temple]

you should play botw 2

[vivid bison]

Blasphemous was ok but I’m not huge on insta death obstacles in souls-like platformers.

[elder steppe]

i‘m looking for something with a deep and complex story line that leaves room for lots of fan theories just like hollow knight😭

[warm bone]

outer wilds

[cerulean sable]

also blasph platforming with its movement style made it a slog

no offense to blasph ofc, it was good

but like, the platforming was kinda ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[vivid bison]

The platforming wasn’t great and I nearly tore my hair out with the Bloodstained crossover

[warm bone]

since when did mods have an orange emoji next to their name

[vivid bison]

Along with the fact that the game barely told you what to do for anything that wasn’t the main story. Any side objectives or items were up in the air.

[cerulean sable]

just now

[vivid bison]

Oramge

[warm bone]

odd

[serene chasm]

I guess. Didnt really follow it, thats just what I assumed happened.

[vivid bison]

I really wanna see how Crowsworn does

[serene chasm]

Im sure it will do well

[vivid bison]

Red panda!

[vivid bison]

[proud vale]

WHAAAT there's an orange for the mods now

[warm bone]

ye

[cerulean sable]

cherries get the logo

[proud vale]

What about admins?

Lemons?

[gray lance]

Did you play it before or after the patches? Apparently it got a big patch to adjust the platforming

[cerulean sable]

ive been telling them to get lemons because thats our nickname for them for a long time already

[warm bone]

nothing for admins yet

[cerulean sable]

before

might replay it again, but by then it felt sluggish

[proud vale]

yeah they should definitely get lemons

[warm bone]

I agree

[serene chasm]

I too concur

[gray lance]

Same. Apparently they added coyote-time and all that good stuff, along with nerfing some of the worse jumping sections

[cerulean sable]

aight

ill replay it sometimes

maybe with rain world

but im never gonna finish rain world tbh :^)

[proud vale]

#sk-discussion message

[serene chasm]

same. Then again I get an hour in and just get bored/quit

[warm bone]

have any of you guys played everhood

[cerulean sable]

just saw ManlyBadassHero play it way back then

[olive bobcat]

When do I get my name emoji

[serene chasm]

Nope. This looks like undertale guitar hero

[midnight radish]

I played a bit of it, could never get into it

[warm bone]

you should, its good

music slaps too

[serene chasm]

I shall wishlist it

[warm bone]

its only $15 I think

wait no its $10

[serene chasm]

10.99 for me. But I just got a bunch of games recently so I want to play those first (he lied to himself)

[warm bone]

CANADA

[serene chasm]

Eh

[cerulean sable]

i was gonna get Eastward but peeps said it felt like errand work with the dialogues and shit

[blazing geyser]

That guy is pretty cool, showcases a lot of horror games you wouldn't really hear of.

[cerulean sable]

looks like the only game ill be playing is the battle brothers dlc 😔

[cerulean sable]

ive been watching him since 2014 actually

[blazing geyser]

Ah fuck did I not turn off ping

[cerulean sable]

the only youtuber that didnt fall off

[blazing geyser]

Oh dang, I only started watching earlier this year lmao

[cerulean sable]

i dont really mind reply pings no worries, unless you keep doing it or the traffic channel is low

like, if you use it to get my attention then yeah i dont mind (hell i encourage you cuz i usually forget)

but after you get my attention, i prefer not getting pinged (cuz you know, im already 'talking' to you), but yeah

[blazing geyser]

Ic, ic

[cerulean sable]

anyway yeah love him, only youtuber i still watch since 2014

[charred pulsar]

Yeah

[opaque sigil]

[warm bone]

pog

[cerulean sable]

stuff like cr1tikal changed, not for the worst but i miss the old style eras of game content which he still does. it helps he plays really niche games without being annoying (and hes a completionist)

he NEVER overreacts like most mainstream youtubers

[blazing geyser]

I like how he's just, chill playing those games. No over the top reactions or annoying outros. It's just nice to fall asleep to, funny as it is, considering he plays horror stuff lmao

[cerulean sable]

right right?

[olive bobcat]

Is Eastward that one game Chucklefish helped with

[cerulean sable]

he has a very calm voice, other youtubers tends to "WOAHHH WHAT THE uFCK?????!!?!? NO WAYYYYY?!?!? HIT THAT MFING LIKE BUTTON IF THAT REVEAL SHOCKED YOU"

well tbf Eastward was just published by Chucklefish

the devs were entirely on their own afaik

[warm bone]

for that same reason, I like report of the week's food reviews

[olive bobcat]

Yeah I just remember them posting a trailer

[cerulean sable]

this is running on empty. fooood, reviewwwww

[serene chasm]

Yeah. Its published by them

[blazing geyser]

Yeah

[cerulean sable]

yeah, on top its really nice to see these small niche indie games you never see covered

they usually never get exposure

so like you also discover something brand new from him

[acoustic jacinth]

my dad is actually ari gibsons son and he said that silksong is being released yesterday

[cerulean sable]

there is another youtuber lets play that had a soothing voice, only to discover he was uhhh
well... i dont wanna say but lets just say i was devastated when i heard of what he did

[proud vale]

Let's goooo lemon time

I will be an orange in name only lol

[cerulean sable]

simo give nitro boosters their own roles too

[serene chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/le-lemon-lemongrab-run-rip-shirt-gif-14815358

[acoustic jacinth]

are will and ari on this server btw

[blazing geyser]

Ah. Another nice youtuber (albeit not one who plays games) is NileRed. Does dumb shit like burning diamonds into carbon dioxide and carbonating water with it

[acoustic jacinth]

or is it just leth

[proud vale]

Ari and Will are on this server but they show up extremely seldomly

[cerulean sable]

they are

[acoustic jacinth]

cool cool

[cerulean sable]

might check em out

[proud vale]

Or maybe they're just invisible all the time, who knows

[cerulean sable]

Ari never replies most of the time

Wilbo however shitposts at a few point

as given, have you seen his twitter?

[proud vale]

Ari has no desire to be social

[acoustic jacinth]

no where tf are will and ari's social medias