sk-discussion

[jade canopy]

I don’t know I think a lot of person kinda ignore those beta and stuff thinking that it will never be fixed

[stiff burrow]

The previous betas had a decent amount of bug reports though
Just not this one from what I know, right?

[jade canopy]

Like some traduction have some known error that will probably won’t be fixed

[signal crag]

also that damn instant primal aspids shots was finally fixed

i wonder if that tweet TC liked was only to see how fans would react to it
like it's SO random lmao

[formal karma]

i can see it being just to rile us up, but then i dont recall TC being like that

[stiff burrow]

Would they troll like that when we have already been waiting for news for so long tho

[signal crag]

yeah, seems weird to me too, but who knows

[hollow smelt]

i dont see a liked tweet on their twitter man

[pliant peak]

could be hinting at an april release date? idk

[worldly quarry]

I mean, I dont see any reason to like an easter post from 2019 so my only guess is to troll us

[stiff burrow]

https://twitter.com/TeamCherryGames/likes
Definitely there

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[signal crag]

https://twitter.com/KaeserUSA/status/1119225462407008257

Kaeser Compressors (@KaeserUSA)

Happy Easter from our family to yours! Just a reminder that our offices are closed today for Good Friday. #HappyEaster2019

Twitter · Apr 19, 2019, 1:05 PM

[stiff burrow]

Wrong answer darnit

[signal crag]

see the people that liked it

[hollow smelt]

oh wait

thats an old tweet they recently liked i get it now

[tall hinge]

that is so random

[stiff burrow]

Yeah. A happy easter tweet from 2019

[formal karma]

'our offices will be closed friday'

[hollow sedge]

weirdest part is that its from a USA company

[worldly quarry]

Could they have accidentily liked it?

[stiff burrow]

From a company that makes air compressors and stuff

[formal karma]

no

[dusty nimbus]

I guess people will link easter with silksong for a while now

[signal crag]

a tweet back in 2019?

[formal karma]

that'd have to purposefully track down a tweet about easter from 2019

[stiff burrow]

They don't even follow that account

[signal crag]

again
i REALLY can't wrap my head around it
it's just such a random thing to do

[formal karma]

100% news

[tall hinge]

team cherry is so deep

[signal crag]

same

What makes you think that?
Just curious to see your point of view

[hollow smelt]

honestly man maybe they just wanted to like an air compressor on their private account but accidently did it on tc acc

[worldly quarry]

I mean, we all make mistakes sometimes

[pliant peak]

you can undo a like, i think they left it on purpose

[hollow smelt]

im honestly finding the most roundabout ways t o shoot down my own hype

[signal crag]

if you undo it, it's no longer visible for others?

[hollow smelt]

because like i learned with e3 if i get hyped they crush it

last time there was a hk update people were saying that development is done thing too so

[pliant peak]

i tested it, and if you unlike something it will leave your liked tab

[hollow smelt]

uhhh i think 2 updates to hk ago? or 1

so a couple monthse back

it was quite a bit ago

back when i frequented here

before/around E3 time

yeah quite a while

people were like "they are in their playtest phase"

so idk man dont count on that as a determiner

[signal crag]

well, they have playtesters for a reason
even if the game is not content complete yet, they are still likely playtesting it anyway

[olive bobcat]

Hey guys where's the ss news at

[stiff burrow]

https://twitter.com/KaeserUSA/status/1119225462407008257
Here ya go

Kaeser Compressors (@KaeserUSA)

Happy Easter from our family to yours! Just a reminder that our offices are closed today for Good Friday. #HappyEaster2019

Twitter · Apr 19, 2019, 1:05 PM

[surreal mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/palla-deserto-desert-hot-gif-6014273

[olive bobcat]

Tf is this

[stiff burrow]

Team Cherry liked it for some reason

[olive bobcat]

Neat

[surreal mortar]

It must mean something guys

[stiff burrow]

A Happy Easter tweet from 2019 lul

[noble patrol]

Silksong easter 2019 confirmed

[olive bobcat]

Remember when they liked this too

That's a ss-disc classic

[signal crag]

i can almost understand that one

[stiff burrow]

Yeah but at least that tweet was new ok

[surreal mortar]

I can resonate with that one

[signal crag]

but the 2019 one is just so random lmao

[olive bobcat]

Classic Jack

[surreal mortar]

Yeah I think William just tapped off it by accident while doing his annual Silksong deletion

[summer kindle]

i mean

2019 was a good year

fairly

[worldly quarry]

Part of me says the tweet is more logical while the other is just saying sILksOnG NEws

[stiff burrow]

Accidentally liking it while on the wrong account was understandable on the first tweet, less so with this oneee

[hollow smelt]

old tweets you dont just "find"

[summer kindle]

it was deliberate

[hollow smelt]

especially if u dont follow it

[signal crag]

you have to really search them on your own

[stiff burrow]

Especially not ones with like 5 likes

[summer kindle]

hmmmmm....... we should overanalyze it

[olive bobcat]

Damn people really stacking on this one

[tall hinge]

totally

[olive bobcat]

News in 228 days I guess

[signal crag]

beyond just them liking it to see how fans will react, i don't see much other reasons

[stiff burrow]

Come one why would they like an Easter tweet from an air compressor company made in 2019

[tall hinge]

i suppose

[summer kindle]

check first letters of sentences / tweets. go ham. letter shift the fuck outta it. count the characters. speculate on an obscure meaning based on 10 hours of digging around on wikipedia

go

[olive bobcat]

Gonna make 6 fakes outta this

[summer kindle]

do it

[signal crag]

nice

[olive bobcat]

Callin' in the whole crew, Shal on art duty, Gauthier doing the music around it, gonna be big

[stiff burrow]

Tbh it's more strange to not find this weird if you ask me

[olive bobcat]

is stupid I dislike it

[summer kindle]

my name wouldn't have [torbie] in it but i am nearly unrecognizable without

[pliant peak]

i assumed that liking the tweet was a hint to a april 2022 release

[olive bobcat]

is cool and one of my fav emotes

[signal crag]

[tall hinge]

yay

[olive bobcat]

Beehappy and beesive are like two sides of the same coin

is heads
is tails

Tails is far cooler and is always what I will bet on

[summer kindle]

beehappy seems new

[tall hinge]

yesterday?

[signal crag]

they seem mostly common tho

[tall hinge]

yeah youre right

[summer kindle]

yeah but it's still something

[warm bone]

Not really

[tall hinge]

wow that is a steady rise

heeheehee it looks so cute

[hollow sedge]

wut is this

[warm bone]

🤔

[tall hinge]

i think its other programs that had silksong in them?

i wonder if you can do anything with the sub id

yeah

[green kraken]

time to use a cyber nuke to breach the fire wall

[summer kindle]

nooo

[tall hinge]

what have i done

[green kraken]

i'll upload the current build of the game shortly after i decrypt their ip

[signal crag]

[dusty nimbus]

That would be spoilers

[stone comet]

whatthe hell is going on

[green kraken]

good thing this server has no spoiler limits

[tribal merlin]

depending on where you live that can also land you in jail 🙂

[green kraken]

i use nord vpn

[tribal merlin]

that is totally overrated when it comes to police

[green kraken]

also tin foil on my router

[tribal merlin]

it only works if you use real tin and not aluminium

[dusty nimbus]

Bummer you used your hat for it

[tribal merlin]

he's probably already brainwashed by now

[dusty nimbus]

The fbi agent is the one speaking to us

[mystic pewter]

I like . sometimes 🐝 needs a break from being

[pallid flare]

aluo can't handle the bee being happy for once

[dusty nimbus]

Fuck honey bees

[pallid flare]

no

[dusty nimbus]

I'm friends with wild bees

[pallid flare]

honey bees are bros

[nimble radish]

we have and
we had , we needed

[dusty nimbus]

Yes

[nimble radish]

perfectly balanced as all things should be

[mystic pewter]

#sk-discussion message he lied

[dusty nimbus]

Honey bees are not the endangered species of bees

Abd they have increased dramatically over the last year or so

Wild bee population decline endangeres pollination of crops and plants in general

[mystic pewter]

yeah, that weekend has passed

[pallid flare]

do you really believe graig's words

[dusty nimbus]

Since wild bees can target a specific plant and have specialised features to pollinate such flower and have a higher pollination rate for that flower while honey bees can completely fail on it's pollination because they don't possess those special characteristics

[nimble radish]

pyro used to have one of those

[pallid flare]

pero

[dusty nimbus]

Nobody gives a shit about which bee species is actually endangered and threatens out environment huh?

[pallid flare]

no problem guy with doom pfp

[nimble pebble]

Graig is only serious when it comes to development and its process He'll troll you on literally everything else

[dusty nimbus]

Ok imma lurk

[nimble pebble]

Well, tbf is it exciting for us or for him

[hollow sedge]

a nintendo direct is probaly gonna happen in the next 2 weeks

[stray finch]

bugs am I right chat

[stray finch]

wait really

[hollow sedge]

yeah, supposedly theres gonna be a Xenoblade 3 reveal but idk

[stray finch]

woah. I'll tell my sister. she loves Xenoblade.

[trim estuary]

HK’s got a lot of bugs

[glossy gazelle]

If I had a nickel for every time someone made that joke, I could by a Sandwich from Subway

[trim estuary]

Gimme the subway sandwich

[mystic pewter]

labor day god bless murica

[signal crag]

there's even one where you can hear the entire Moss Mother music track (bad quality tho)

https://youtu.be/Z5ZeF7UxDOk?t=264

this one is too old

[formal karma]

well, data mning, and then also hype doesn't need building

[fringe swift]

might be an issue with Nintendo, too

licencing issues

[primal oriole]

Leth has actually said that they actively want to prevent getting hype up

[nimble pebble]

He's from Australia

[stoic jacinth]

data mining would break that open, they’d have to stop development on silksong to make a demo build without code that isn’t meant to be public

[formal karma]

silksong got trending when leth changed the icon on twitch- No hype building necessary

few months ago (likely?) the banner for the Silksong game tab on twitch got updated

and, of course, people were buzzing

[signal crag]

Silksong trends on twitter when there’s an indie world
For no real reason lmao

[formal karma]

oh- but bro, TC and nintendo have a great relationship!@

/j

[tribal schooner]

thats crazy that it has that much support! to trend on twitter isnt easy, and without any real effort. it like catching a wave without paddling

[tribal schooner]

its clearly better than the relationship they have with xbox or playstation. though thats not saying much

[formal karma]

yes but people use that as their only line of defense when pretending directs have news

[glossy gazelle]

Wait wut

[formal karma]

'managing expectations' was the phrase I recall

[glossy gazelle]

Ok that’s better phrasing

[formal karma]

they don't need people going nuts over nothing

[tribal schooner]

they just dont want hype until there the game is ready, otherwise they get angry fans and the crash of the hype. itll be amazing when the game comes out tho

[primal oriole]

yeah he said that they didn't want to reveal news at events or anything because it would get people much more hyped than they need to be

[signal crag]

At least, nothing that’s not the release date

[primal oriole]

yeah then they do need people to be hyped

[formal karma]

people are gonna be so sad when the update this weekend has nothing to do with release

[orchid rune]

As mossbag said they haven't maid that much blog posts neither because they havent been on the internet to avoid angry fans and all that

Wait what update this weekend

[tribal schooner]

my stance on directs is that silksong is possible and leth has said that using a direct is something he would like to do but i think its just as reasonable that they jsut announce it themselves with a random launch trailer dropped on nintendos youtube channel. they dont really need help so they could just fly solo

[signal crag]

Wait, is that about what graig said?

[orchid rune]

What update this weekend

[formal karma]

likely

[primal oriole]

I think they're much more likely to appear in a direct than an indie direct

[formal karma]

i mean i am joking about the update, but there's some silly stuff going on around here............

[orchid rune]

Oh

[signal crag]

Silksong in a indie world would steal the show from all other games tbh

[tribal schooner]

it wont show in an indie direct period. its too big now. nintendo wouldnt use ss in a indie direct its too small for something like ss

[orchid rune]

Ss is way to big for and indie direct since that same direct is made to show small new indies

[tribal schooner]

and it would benefit TC more to have it in a mainstream direct

[glossy gazelle]

Except Shovel Knight

Who I’m pretty sure was in last Indie

And he’s neither small nor new

[primal oriole]

I feel like the only reason TC would appear in an indie direct is if there wasn't anything else big they could do for a long time, but even then they'd probably choose not to to let other games shine

[formal karma]

direct for release date, maybe, but I don't think that's coming soon

[tribal schooner]

yeah but that was more of a spin off game. plus hollowknight i think is bigger than any indie rep poeple speak of, im pretty sure. except maybe undertale

[slow cedar]

if silksong shows up in a direct itd probably get its own direct

[tribal schooner]

still not that big, plus its not a nintendo 1st party title. though it does deserve one.

[slow cedar]

hmm yea thats probs true

[tribal schooner]

i mean not even zelda has gotten its own direct

[hollow smelt]

data mining im pretty sure

[obsidian juniper]

With how little ss content there Is the fandom would milk the demos in like 3 hours

[heady iron]

Daughter of Pharloom mod would be made in a matter of hours

[hollow smelt]

i mean idd prob replay the demo unhealthy much

and i know alot of people will see if there is any data that wasnt actually used ingame in the code

[tribal schooner]

we would ruin all of the begining of the game for ourselves

[obsidian juniper]

Yes, everyone would start seeking clues about what the rest of the game Is like by data mining

[hollow smelt]

actual fact

i would honestly just have so much fun with the movement

[obsidian juniper]

Yeah

[tribal schooner]

i just cant wait for the game, its gonna be so fun

[obsidian juniper]

I have decided that im getting ss as soon as it appears in ps4 shop

[night hull]

If it appears

In ps4

[spark pine]

Ha

[obsidian juniper]

Pls dont remind me of the possibility

[spark pine]

Na it should

I think

[night hull]

I hope

[spark pine]

Honestly if I was put in that situation i would just buy a switch lite

Although I’m fortunate enough to have a pc

[obsidian juniper]

cries in consoles costing a liver in my country

[analog lily]

[spark pine]

Sorry to hear that man :/

I think it will be on PS4

Maybe just not right away

[obsidian juniper]

Yeah it,ll probably go out in ps4,it Is not death yet

[obsidian juniper]

Hi ghost

[nimble pebble]

SS will be PC and Switch at launch then ports post launch later

[analog lily]

yeah, though i hope it will be soon after the release on Nintendo Switch and PC

[nimble pebble]

Probably 6 months post launch

[obsidian juniper]

I know that, the problem Is if TC decides Port it only to ps5

Also hi

[nimble pebble]

Porting isn't a slow process

[spark pine]

Staying spoiler free might be a bit of a faff when ur waiting for the ports

[analog lily]

I doubt they will do that, in fact I think that it is more likely not to come to PS5 rather than to be exclusive to PS5

[spark pine]

Even going on the discord would be a death sentence in terms of spoilers post-launch. Which might suck for lots of people in the community

[obsidian juniper]

Yeah i Will have to avoid this channel for a Time in order to not get spoiled

[spark pine]

Ya

[obsidian juniper]

Which Is a shame,i like hanging out here

[spark pine]

Even Twitter and stuff might be a bit dodgy

Let’s just hope the gap isn’t too long between release and ports

[warm bone]

twitter🤮

[obsidian juniper]

I dont really use Twitter and social media apps that much,so with avoiding hk stuff in YouTube it should be enough

[spark pine]

Nice

[night hull]

I have a pc but its very trash

[obsidian juniper]

Nosk the hedgehog

[analog lily]

[green kraken]

im ready to be spoiled

[tranquil igloo]

same

[nimble pebble]

@analog lily The minigame areas are so worth it Odgen gives you two really good garden upgrades Mochi gives you a chance to double profit when selling plorts as well as a coop upgrade and viktor gives a chicken duplicator and advanced drones not to mention all 3 give you a ranch as their final reward

[analog lily]

wow, Ok i think Viktor's one with advanced drones is the one i am going to get after I finish Odgon's one

[nimble pebble]

Ok

[barren roost]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/736153071218065508/821814544388718623/image0.gif

[tepid trench]

Nosk the third

[viral mural]

I like that nosk

[serene patrol]

No news today! But tomorrow for sure

[hollow smelt]

but it isnt friday yet!

[rancid crow]

it takes 4 hours to friday

[hollow smelt]

nah not for me

[rancid crow]

actually 3 hours and a half

[hollow smelt]

tc must go off of my time zone

[rancid crow]

oh i live in brasil so the time zones are a bit different

[shell yacht]

[serene patrol]

[modest night]

are you guys still hoping because ari was online 🥴

[formal karma]

They have other evidence too

A tweet they liked, too

[shell yacht]

"evidence"

[wheat sail]

soonsong finally

[shell yacht]

yall need to get off the copium and touch grass unironically

[split cypress]

wait what happened i was h

[formal karma]

Nothing happened

[split cypress]

okie dokie!

[shell yacht]

nothing happened thats why yall look crazy

[cunning geode]

Furious Earth-Chan

[trim estuary]

did that earlier today, started itching all over

[green kraken]

let me scratch you

[trim estuary]

[formal karma]

Mhmmmmm that's enough discord for me today......

[primal oriole]

if this is the tweet they liked they absolutely know what they're doing

I can't imagine this not being a plan to make fun of people

[green kraken]

This friday. I cracked the case

[formal karma]

I low key hope it's absolutely nothing

[primal oriole]

I feel like at this point it's not funny when people get disappointed in this chat

so I do hope it's something

[green kraken]

despair

[shell yacht]

its funny but i also lose hope in how smart yall are

[green kraken]

also I had the silksong build but the fbi took it away

it was fun

also Demon I like the haikuu in your about me

[cunning geode]

its lyrics from Enter the Gungeon's main theme

[trim estuary]

it is?

all i can hear is "Enter the Gun"

[wheat sail]

maybe the rapping part

[trim estuary]

theres a rapping part?

[pastel jolt]

alright so im generally interested do yall think its coming this year, next year or maybe even longer

[trim estuary]

december 21st ofc

[pastel jolt]

oh of course no doubt

[pastel silo]

considering what Geoff Keighley said before E3 about TC , I don't think we can expect ss this year

[pastel jolt]

what did he say?

[pastel silo]

there is a clip, mby someone has it

basically that he was reaching out to them but they said that we won't be hearing from them anytime soon

[green kraken]

I am not coping, but that means TC is preparing a big surprise soon

[pastel jolt]

fair i guess. I am jsut so curious bc they said that the way they make games they could stop adding at any time and wrap it up but im worried they might be going out of their way to add so much bc of the pressure from the success of hk

[marsh ibex]

Did someone say

Clip?

I deleted it

man

[pastel jolt]

also even tho its and indie and i guess technically nintendos other games are bigger but it feels like silksong is so big it should get a dedicated direct like i think animal crossing got

[shell yacht]

i dont think it qualifies as hikyu

[shell yacht]

@trim estuary you get the full song first time you beat the game

[trim estuary]

ah

it is a roguelike

[shell yacht]

yeah, roguelike bullethell

||actual bullet hell included||

[languid linden]

Wait I thought you were going to bed

Is #hk-lore that bad

I'm sitting at my desk in my PJs

7:43 PM for me

[pastel jolt]

same

[silver oak]

It's 8:45 here and I haven't started my hw yet

So, how's everyone doing

[languid linden]

Uhh speaking of homework

[obsidian juniper]

Im doing allright,and you?

[languid linden]

Nevermind I did the stuff due today

[pastel jolt]

im good just went through the bi monthly phase of a hk fan of rewatching all the ss content

[silver oak]

The way my school works, classes are on alternating days

But on Mondays you have every class

So it basically forces you to do all your homework last minute

Which I would have done anyway but now that it's necessary I'm mad

[tribal schooner]

thats what i did

i dont think i did my homework at home more than a dozen times

[wheat sail]

😮

[languid linden]

I actually did that today

[tribal schooner]

and i was valedictorian

[languid linden]

Unfortunately, hw is due at the beginning of class

[tribal schooner]

once i studied on my way through the hall and still got 95% correct on the test

[tribal schooner]

you do it in class the day before

to be fair tho not every memorizes at the same pace or level.

ive met people who studied for 5 hours a day after school, and they were valedictorian too. they were amazing

[languid linden]

I only study for final exams

[split cypress]

i studied real hard and got a 55

apparently not hard enough

[tribal schooner]

that bites, im sorry man. do you get test anxiety. that can ruin all the hard work of study

[split cypress]

i am test anxiendty

[tribal schooner]

thats rough, i have anxiety but tests dont do it for me, unless i already know im gonna fail but i think thats more frustration

and appathy

if i know i dont know the content is all but a complete waste of time when i take a test, like my AP chem test was terrible. my teacher couldnt teach a prodigy well enough to pass the test.

[warm bone]

half of the people that take an ap test don't pass

[tribal schooner]

thats how they like it. though my chem teacher to this day has not had someone pass an AP test

[green kraken]

AP in high school?

[warm bone]

yes

[tribal schooner]

i passed most of mine

[warm bone]

there is only ap in high school, it's advanced placement for collage

[green kraken]

bruh my class was doing well in math so we got AP level stuff then my marks dropped

when i was in HS

[tribal schooner]

needless to say im no genius, since i didnt get optimal scores on any of my tests but i will say that i remember thing better than some maybe most, and that im naturally and active studier and learner

[obsidian juniper]

I didnt knew that existed.
Is there a page or something where you can see the AP content?

[warm bone]

its a special program

[warm bone]

https://myap.collegeboard.org/

[tribal schooner]

i hate it when they screw you like that. i moved from one state to another and they put me in the lowest math class only to realize that i knew it all, so then i got put in the highest one for that grade and skipped a ton of algebra. now to this day my algebra needs work

[obsidian juniper]

Thanks
I wanna check how good i am compared to this

[tribal schooner]

khanacademy has alot of stuff for studying ap too if you want more stuff to see your level

[obsidian juniper]

Ok im gonna try tomorrow
Also if you practice this enough you can have an advantage in collegue?like knowing things that appear in both?

[tribal schooner]

i liked most of my AP classes but if you do too many at once you suffer more than a full time college student. they put you through alot of rigorous workloads just because they can

[obsidian juniper]

Wait It has classes to?nice

[tribal schooner]

yeah its an advantage in that way but even more is if you get a passing score or even higher you can actually get college credit from them before going to college

[obsidian juniper]

Does it applies to inmigrants?

[tribal schooner]

they would be courses offered at your high school, this is all int he states and some other countries though im not sure which ones

[tribal schooner]

i think so

[warm bone]

naw

[obsidian juniper]

Ooo interesting

[warm bone]

naw I just hate roguelikes

[tribal schooner]

ive heard its good but its not really my style

[warm bone]

they're so boring and repetitive

its a rougelike right?

[tribal schooner]

I might try it at some point but i have quite the waitlist of games i would like to buy

[warm bone]

the only good rougelike I have played is outer wilds, and I have played and beaten many rougelikes

[nimble pebble]

I mean I hate roguelikes too but there's exceptions

[tribal schooner]

i find that alot of roguelikes do the whole diahrea Christmas light in the words of girlfriend reviews.

[coarse leaf]

song silk

[obsidian juniper]

do you pay for this?

[warm bone]

yes, a lot

[obsidian juniper]

ah

[warm bone]

its college, so its expensive

[obsidian juniper]

well f

[analog lily]

do you mean, ZoteBoat?

[coarse leaf]

sure why not

[obsidian juniper]

but can you get the ap content free from somewhere?

[tribal schooner]

you can do programs that will pay for you as long as you take the test. thats what i did. and i got a hunder usd for each test i passed

[warm bone]

🏴‍☠️

[obsidian juniper]

yeah i was asking for pages xd

[nimble pebble]

For those out there who absolutely fucking hate rougelikes what's your exception

[tribal schooner]

you can get that level content from khan academy but its limited and the course is usaully an extra fee course

[nimble pebble]

Mine are Probably Hades and Enter the Gungeon

[obsidian juniper]

i see

[warm bone]

outer wilds, but that can barely be considered a rougelike

[tribal schooner]

i dont think ive played any unless you count fps battle royale games

[nimble pebble]

That's a space exploration time loop mystery solver

[nimble pebble]

Those aren't roguelikes

[tribal schooner]

ive considered hades and deadcells. but they have the light beams everywhere and im not a fan. thats what i liked about hk is the lack of flashy effect with crisp solid combat

[warm bone]

yeah then idk, I have played and beaten hades and enter the gungeon and I have the same problem with them that I do all roguelikes

[nimble pebble]

Time loop ≠ Roguelike

[warm bone]

what makes a roguelike

[nimble pebble]

Rogue-lite: permadeath, world gen variation between runs, unlocks/upgrades between attempts.
Rogue-like: permadeath, world gen variation between runs.
True-Rogue-like: Permadeath, world gen variation between runs, top down/dungeon crawler.
Rouge-like-like: Permadeath, world gen variants, no unlocks, different genre than rogue.

Outer wilds has pre generated world gen

[tribal schooner]

you keep some progress after death but then repeat the levels. basically the more you try the stronger you get until you can beat every level

[fiery coral]

what on earth is a Roguelike-like

[nimble pebble]

A rougelike but it's not a roguelike because it's fucking nothing like Rogue

[fiery coral]

to be fair Outer Wilds does have that

[nimble pebble]

That's a Roguelite

[warm bone]

kinda

[fiery coral]

replace 'stronger' with 'more knowledgeable'

[warm bone]

I mean I can start a new outer wilds profile and beat it first try, with no previous deaths or anything

[nimble pebble]

No Unique, Grand described a Rougelite not a roguelike

[warm bone]

@nimble pebble what about risk of rain two

[nimble pebble]

Roguelite

[warm bone]

its not a procedurally generated world tho

[nimble pebble]

Of course not

[warm bone]

wasn't that a requirement

[nimble pebble]

No

[warm bone]

then outer wilds is a roguelike

[nimble pebble]

The opposite

Roguelikes/lites have random world gen between runs

[warm bone]

didn't you just say it was not a requirement

[nimble pebble]

I said pre generated world gen isn't but random world gen is

[tribal schooner]

isnt that game skul slayer of heros a roguelike? i want to try that one, can remember tho

[warm bone]

you just said it wasn't lmao

[nimble pebble]

Procedurally means pre generated

[warm bone]

lmao are you joking

[tribal schooner]

could you give an example of a roguelike then im struggling to figure out what one would be

[tribal schooner]

is minecraft a roguelike?

[nimble pebble]

No

[crisp drift]

minecraft is sandbox i believe

[tribal schooner]

right gotcha

[nimble pebble]

There is no offical path or way to play a roguelike since the world gen is random there is no set path

[warm bone]

procedural generation is world generation built on algorithms (procedures) and randomness, enter the gungeon and hades (nvm maybe not hades) are also procedurally generated

[serene chasm]

oh no. are you guys having another roguelike/lite discussion?

[crisp drift]

i mean probably better to take it to dms

[nimble pebble]

No someone is arguing against the definition of Procedurally

[serene chasm]

ok

[tribal schooner]

so it generates as you play rather than when you start up a new profile?

[serene chasm]

I was worried for the second

[nimble pebble]

It generates when you start a run

[warm bone]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procedural_generation

[pearl talon]

roguelite = unlocks of power
roguelitelite = unlocks of knowledge

[tribal schooner]

so like moonlighter when you walk into a dungeon and how a new path is created each time?

[nimble pebble]

In simple terms a Roguelike is dying then how they map is laid out changes and Roguelike is the same thing but you progressively unlock things to use in your runs

[olive bobcat]

Are we talking about how bad Roguelikes are?

[tribal schooner]

this game looks good https://youtu.be/jqk8JL76fXI

[nimble pebble]

Yes, because it's a roguelike

[crisp drift]

the difference of roguelikes and roguelite

[olive bobcat]

Never heard of a roguelite

[tribal schooner]

wait it is? ok i guess i dont mind some rogue likes then since i liked that one. i progressed too quick tho. i beat the game in like 2 weeks

[nimble pebble]

They are generally bad however there are a few exceptions just like how most turn based RPG's are bad

[warm bone]

don't get them started on roguelite-like-lite-likes

[crisp drift]

well i'm not well versed in game stuff, i just know they exist and sorta different

[olive bobcat]

Sword and Shield are bad

[nimble pebble]

Roguelike-lite-like-like-lite-lite-like

[warm bone]

so is pokemon in general

[olive bobcat]

Would you say XY is better than SM

[nimble pebble]

~~I was making an omori joke ~~

[sterile sleet]

Both aren’t great but XY is definitely worse

Though I do miss rollerskating.

That was cool

[tribal schooner]

idk they were so bad i didnt bother playing it

[olive bobcat]

I like XY personally, but it's mostly nostalgia

I have an extensive document I've been working on for a year or so of XY remake ideas (in the form of Z)

[nimble pebble]

Hard to say since my favourite ones are Gen 4 an Gen 5

[tribal schooner]

the first 4 gens were good. the series peaked at platinum and soul silver/heart gold

[nimble pebble]

Nah, it peaked at Gen 5

[olive bobcat]

Gen 5 was the best imo, though the consistency of the map is lacking

[warm bone]

yeah turn based games are just not my cup of tea, like roguelikes. I like most other genres tho

[nimble pebble]

Agreed

[olive bobcat]

And I can understand the complaints about the Pokemon designs

[nimble pebble]

And that's fine

[tribal schooner]

i feel like thats when it started going down hill. stil towards its peak but that when the designs of pokemon really started to suffer and the games started being more linear

[warm bone]

is pikmin an rts?

[olive bobcat]

But I'd be lying if I said they were bad, that shit's got me hooked rn

I'm prepping a bug team for the PWT right now

[nimble pebble]

Tbf Gen 1 wasn't that creative either

[olive bobcat]

Ekans is so creative wdym

[nimble pebble]

Electroide is an upside down voltorb

[olive bobcat]

I have so many ideas for the XY remake stuff, but idk where to start without rambling on about other stuff

[tribal schooner]

i liked x and y fine but the new pokemon were eh. and the starters final evelutions were such a let down. there was so much more potential until they desided to make them themed of human concepts like ninjas and knights

[olive bobcat]

Klefki good

[nimble pebble]

Despite Gen 7 being overall mediocre (even though my ooga booga pokemon brain likes pretty much all the games since I get to play through the story and train my mons) but my favourite mon is from there so I can't complain too much

[olive bobcat]

My boy

Most of what I know about gen 7 is Ultra Space, which makes me irritated because they wasted it

[tribal schooner]

eh. i dont like the ghost pokemon made out of objects. cause other ghost pokemon canonically poses objects already

[nimble pebble]

Nah man they were never creative, it was just a bit less so, but overall Gen 5 is for certain a peak for not only being super fun but one of their best stories which was impoved upon in b&W2

[olive bobcat]

Steel fairy

Have you guys seen the concept art for Ultra Megalopolis

[nimble pebble]

My son

[olive bobcat]

This shit slaps

[analog lily]

What is that, monstrocity?

[nimble pebble]

Klefkey

You act like Ghost types aren't haunted objects half the time

[tribal schooner]

the story was good but im not talking about the createivity of design im talking of the pokemon that ruined later design. namely the ice cream cones, the gear one, onc the pokeball mushroom

[olive bobcat]

Anyone interested in my remake of the Kalos map layout

[nimble pebble]

Excuse me but fucking klink klank was in my fucking party and I will have no disrespect to my boy

[viral pivot]

yes even though i dont know where that is since i didnt play the games and only watched the anime up to black and white

[tribal schooner]

the pokemon was not that cool and doesnt make sense

[nimble pebble]

The icecream cones were kind of weird though, though personally I didn't mind

[olive bobcat]

XY region is Kalos

[viral pivot]

ahh

[nimble pebble]

Doesn't have to be the definition of cool for me to like it

[tribal schooner]

i played bw and b2w2 but i had to ignore the ice cream cones

[nimble pebble]

Show it

[olive bobcat]

Yeah gimme a sec to redraw it

[nimble pebble]

You could just... not care about it?

[olive bobcat]

The only pic I have of it isn't clear and also outdated

[tribal schooner]

i dont, only enough to have an opinion. and not play the games anymore, since 50% of the pokemon are way too 'try hard to be creative' charizard is easily one of the best and most famous pokemon and what is it a orange dragon that has fire on its tail

[nimble pebble]

Nice

[nimble pebble]

Fair enough

[fiery coral]

what molecule is that

[olive bobcat]

That's word for word what my dad said

[fiery coral]

[olive bobcat]

Anyways I didn't show it but the climates would be moved around some

Anistar City is a lot snowier, Geosenge is probs more like a desert, stuff like that

That city on the far right is actually a new place I wanted to add

[pearl talon]

thought that was the b2w2 map for a second

[olive bobcat]

I removed Ambrette Town and for the time being am calling it "Ambrette City"

[tribal schooner]

and for the record i do see the love for gen 5, i enjoyed them alot. tho i wasnt a fan of the starters either. but other than that and a few specific pokemon it was a ton of fun and i loved the story

[pearl talon]

god be like:

[olive bobcat]

The idea is that it's a snowy town like Circhester (with heavier weather), housing the 8th gym and some good items

It also leads to a mountain above where you can find Volcanion

[pearl talon]

this isn't even HK discussion at this point so i'm gonna ask a question about ori

which mode is best to play on for a first time ori player

[olive bobcat]

Something like this is the feel I want

[tribal schooner]

normal

unless you are good at most games and platformers then hard

[nimble pebble]

My Pokemon team in Pokemon Black when I was a kid was Serperior Darmatian Boledore (I didn't have anyone to trade with to get a gigilith ) Klink Klank, Unfezent Scolipede

[pearl talon]

what are the main differences (no spoilers) between difficulties?

[nimble pebble]

Seperior was the good one imo

[olive bobcat]

Serperior gang

[nimble pebble]

Ah I see you are a man of Culture Aluo

[serene chasm]

i like mudkip

[nimble pebble]

We're talking Gen 5 Curly

[olive bobcat]

My team for Black 2 was Serperior, Unfeazant, Terrakion, Jellicent, Ampharos, and Scolipede

[nimble pebble]

I picked Torchik in gen 3 though

[olive bobcat]

I'm working on switching it around rn to better cover things like psychic and ghost

[nimble pebble]

Though since I owned both copies I went with Mudkip on the second

[nimble pebble]

Lmao we seemed to have mostly the same idea

[tribal schooner]

i went with emboar inicially now i prefer samurott. and i hate those trade to evolve pokemon. how the heck can i get gengar in fir red now without buying a whole new gba?!

[olive bobcat]

Tbh Serperior is only on the team because not having the starter feels off

[pearl talon]

speaking of pokemon i need to make two dream teams for gen 5

[nimble pebble]

Gen 5 was my first game (though I backtracked into platinum) so I wasn't very good

[pearl talon]

one starter will be snivy and the other will be oshawott, and i'm gonna hunt both the legendaries

[olive bobcat]

Hey Pillow

[pearl talon]

need 8 filler slots. any ideas?

[nimble pebble]

Truth, but I did also like it

[olive bobcat]

Isn't this shot great

[nimble pebble]

Ye

[pearl talon]

(also, @tribal schooner can you pls answer ori question )

[olive bobcat]

My Pokemon wallet before and after Black Tower

[tribal schooner]

platinum is probably my favorite game seconded closely by soul silver and fire red

i stopped after x and y

[nimble pebble]

I remember in Gen 7 for 3 out of the 4 I owned among both SM and USUM there was one save that stole my Gengar and I hated that

[nimble pebble]

Business man moment

[olive bobcat]

Do you want a comparison just for scale

[nimble pebble]

If you want

[dusty kettle]

They should make a sequel to Hollow Knight

[olive bobcat]

Pre-Black Tower, I was at like 20k
Now I'm at 1.3 mil

[nimble pebble]

[olive bobcat]

Each trainer gives you like 14k on defeat

[silver oak]

That would be cool

[nimble pebble]

Making Bank

[silver oak]

Just got a lag spike

Just got a lag spike

[tribal schooner]

gengar is one of my favorite pokemon and he gets shafted all the time. first just how to get himand second his mega evolution kinda sucks

[olive bobcat]

Just got a lag spike

[silver oak]

As you can see

[nimble pebble]

What was everyones Favourite type as a kid vs their favourite type now

[fiery coral]

Just got a lag spike

[silver oak]

My internet is being fun right now

[nimble pebble]

I used to like Fire and Steel but now I really love Ghost types

[pearl talon]

then: fire
now: ice/ghost

[olive bobcat]

I am a bug enthusiast

[pearl talon]

i also like bug a lot

[tribal schooner]

i redesigned mega gengar and a few others and they are way cooler. they take the concept of mega evolution and improve it with mechanic changes beyond temporary evolved forms

[nimble pebble]

Gengar is always the Ghost type I have on my team if Palossand isn't avaiable I love them both bbut Plaossand is my favourite pokemon period

Though in Gen 7 you could use the S.O.S system to get a Gengar without trading

[pearl talon]

gengar gets shafted all the time

[nimble pebble]

They need to bring back the S.O.S system

[warm bone]

S.U.S

[nimble pebble]

[tribal schooner]

i used to dislikethe ghost sword pokemon but its grown on me. remind me in and hour and a half to show youi guys my mega evolutions concept art. they are pretty dope

[tribal schooner]

he does what can i say. his typing could have been better too

[nimble pebble]

I think I have a Aegislash on my team in Shield

My Sword team is vastly different from my Shield team

[olive bobcat]

I was so disappointed when I learned I couldn't get Mega Scizor on my X save

[nimble pebble]

Rip

Speaking of disappointment I suddenly lost my Copy of Y out of no where and I'm still mad to this day because I owned both X & Y but I liked Y more

[tribal schooner]

i got all the mega evolutions on X with some help of a friend who like replaying his games. he just gave me everything form his y game

[olive bobcat]

Pog friend

[nimble pebble]

What's your Favourite type Aluo

Mine is Ghost

[olive bobcat]

Bug

Followed up by either fairy or water

[nimble pebble]

Ghost

[olive bobcat]

Mega Banette is good

[nimble pebble]

Followed by either Steel or Ice

I feel my second and third favourite fluctuate a lot though

[olive bobcat]

Sometimes I think about the lack of a grass type cover legendary

[nimble pebble]

Same

[pearl talon]

sometimes i think about the lack of a normal type cover legendary

[olive bobcat]

Also that Solgaleo isn't fire

Zacian and Zamazenta should be normal types because they're basic as fuck

[tribal schooner]

dragon type all the way. i forgot farytype was a thing. it totally ruined dragon type

[nimble pebble]

...

[nimble pebble]

I mean, Dragon type needed to be balanced

[olive bobcat]

I like that fairy type was introduced after the generation with the legendary dragons

Ok wait what

Ho-Oh is part fire, but Solgaleo isn't

[nimble pebble]

I think it's fine but idk why they're fairy type

[nimble pebble]

Correct

[olive bobcat]

Anyways brb gonna do dishes and such

Also fun fact Diancie is the only XY Pokemon to get a mega and they got it in ORAS ok byeeeeeee

[tribal schooner]

Why it wasn’t super effective against anything except itself and it made ice types more important it was just alway good

[nimble pebble]

It lacked weaknesses

[tribal schooner]

I’ve type and dragon type that’s two

[nimble pebble]

So it was broken

https://pokemondb.net/type

[tribal schooner]

Not really just a little harder to plan for. It was the jack of all trades type. Not the best against anything but not the worst against anything either

Besides now fairy is basically the new dragon type. It only has two weaknesses

[nimble pebble]

Dragon type moves were typically high in damage value and the type itself had very few weaknesses making it a pain in the ass to deal with if you didn't have an ice or dragon type in your team

[nimble pebble]

adds new type

Tbh I'd like a new type at some point but idk what it would be

[tribal schooner]

If you didn’t have a dragon type in your team you were playing wrong

[tribal schooner]

I fail to see how that is a counter argument if you could please explain haha

[nimble pebble]

Depending on the gen they were hard to get since there were few and most were end game

[tribal schooner]

Even if they had just made fairy type light type instead. That would’ve been ok

[tribal schooner]

Let the grind commence hahaha

[shell yacht]

normal was the original light type, just translations bad

[tribal schooner]

Oh I didn’t know that. Kinda wish normal type was stronger then

[nimble pebble]

Fairy types weaknesses are more accessible than Dragons back in the day would be my take but seems you just have a bias against the type so idk what to say

[shell yacht]

balancings hard

[nimble pebble]

Very true

Rock has 5 weaknesses

[tribal schooner]

I felt that the types were pretty well balanced in platinum and soul silver. At least as long as you didn’t fight Cynthia

[tribal schooner]

Ok fair enough

[nimble pebble]

[tribal schooner]

Ice type has a lot of weaknesses too. I liked that with six Pokémon you could make a team that was super effective against all types. That was a requirement for all of my teams

That made sinnoh kinda hard and johto honestly but whatevs

[nimble pebble]

Hey remember when Gen 1 Psychic type was busted

[tribal schooner]

Yeah, cause there were like 2 ghost type Pokémon and one of them sucked if you didn’t have gengar you were screwed. Dark type came to fix that tho and gen 3 and 4 and 5 actually all came with a ton of dark types

I feel like ghost type was rare until gen 5

[warm bone]

Have any of y'all played psychonauts 2, heard it was really good

[serene chasm]

nope. I dont touch AAA games due to price until they go on sale

Glad to hear its good though

[warm bone]

97% on steam

[rigid isle]

I played psychonauts 1 it was really fun

I don't have pychonauts 2 though

[nimble pebble]

Yeah it's pretty fun looking

[olive bobcat]

So Pokemon amirite

[analog forge]

double fine is more double a, isnt it?

[proud vale]

I've been inspired this morning to replay ultra moon

[analog forge]

what demons would compell you to do such a thing?

[proud vale]

Maybe I had a dream about it or something, who knows

[analog lily]

Not sure if this is a troll or that thing last week with the Guess the SS trailer image

[proud vale]

Fool

They will be in the hearts of many

[cerulean sable]

what if the saw blade is destroyable

like it has a set of health

[proud vale]

what saw blade, the ones from HK?

[crisp drift]

that would be decent balancing system, assuming you mean the saw tool we see in trailer

[proud vale]

Oh you mean the wheel?

[cerulean sable]

hornet's riptire

[proud vale]

I think it'll do a set amount of damage and then expire

[analog lily]

you mean the tool used in the SS trailer with which looks like a Buzzsaw?

[cerulean sable]

yes

[analog forge]

time to forget fool forever :)

[proud vale]

It doesn't look like enemies are smart enough to attack it

[analog lily]

Yeah possibly, there is definetly going to be some balance change to make it weaker

[cerulean sable]

we cant even say if it needs a nerf because he havent seen it in full action other than a 3 second snippet

for all we know it could go back to hornet and do 3 mask damage against her (hyperbole ofc)

[analog lily]

Yeah though 3 masks might be too much

[cerulean sable]

that was a joke

[analog lily]

Well that wouldn't actually be a bad thing to do to make it weaker

[proud vale]

Also conversely, the COST of the tool could be really high. Like perhaps it uses all of your shards or half of your shards to use

Or also has an additional cost

So if you could only use 2 per bench sit that would be fairly balanced

[analog lily]

I think there should be only 1 thing which makes it bad, like friendly fire, or high cost, not BOTH

[proud vale]

Yeah, I don't think friendly fire will be a thing - would likely make it too unpredictable to use and if the cost isn't high then it's quick spammable

[cerulean sable]

also recently watched a mossbag vid about wheres silksong and stumbled upon the ori vid, like i knew the ori dev shitted on HK in the forums but i didnt know they shitted it as far as even in the dev streams

like no offense in the game i dont really care about those but just left a bad taste

[worn coral]

Yeah they’re not great, the composer is cool though

He says he didn’t like hks pacing but loved the music and atmosphere and is looking forward to silksong

[cerulean sable]

ahh i didnt know that

[worn coral]

Even most of the ori community doesn’t love the devs

[cerulean sable]

oh really?

[worn coral]

Ori community isn’t fun in the slightest though

There are good people but the main parts of it aren’t good imo

[cerulean sable]

i just found it disgenous, like apparently the dev said that theyre perfecting the genre? or advancing it, whereas "unlike Hollow Knight where you dont know where to go, here you actually do"

which is funny because a lot of people loved that about HK, like have you considered theyre just different (same goes for HK fans that calls everything a ripoff)

[worn coral]

It’s really over the top forced uwu hugs wholesome type stuff and it’s impossible to do anything without emote spam

[worn coral]

Ori was v e r y linear imo

I didn’t like that about it, I like not knowing exactly where to go

[ocean coral]

[cerulean sable]

yeah i can understand the different taste and thats fine, just saying the way he framed it sounded like it was a huge negative to HK

[marble marsh]

yea in hk I liked the exploration and being able to go multiple paths after fungal wastes

[worn coral]

It’s one dev in particular from what I’ve heard

[nimble pebble]

I guess it's really just up to interpretation and that's his

[cerulean sable]

which is funny, because despite those HK is still wildly celebrated and it broke the steam charts just a couple of days ago

like dont get me wrong if Ari and Wilbo started shitting on their contemporaries id dislike them too

[worn coral]

Yeah

[nimble pebble]

I'm not one for games that are super platformers I like platforming but if it ihas a mega focus on platforming like Ori then I'm not that big a fan

[cerulean sable]

but the thing is
"Hey guys cant wait for you to finish your game, looks great :D" in the Crowsworn kickstarter is indicator enough for me

[worn coral]

Tc seems very down to earth, Thomas Mahler (the hk bad one) is a bit of a narcissist

[cerulean sable]

we never know as usual

then again Ari is always non existant in social media, and i guess thats for the best

[worn coral]

That’s what I’ve heard at least

[nimble pebble]

Well of course, not only are they nice guys but just like most of us were just happy to see another game like HK even if there's plenty of elements that aren't

[cerulean sable]

Wilbo is just a shitposter

[nimble pebble]

Ari just wants to eat his Croissants man

[cerulean sable]

i get him lmao

man literally does nothing but eat croissant and spend it on workring

i cant blame him

[worn coral]

Croissants are great

[nimble pebble]

He is a simple man but a good one

Man Fresh Parisian Croissants

[worn coral]

I usually just have the Costco ones

[nimble pebble]

Well when I was in Paris I got the fresh stuff so it was goooood

[worn coral]

That sounds amazing

I’ve had fresh ones a few times and they’re so good

[nimble pebble]

Welcome to TC here we have
The shitposter
Croissant man
Plant dude people forget about sometimes
The Riddler
The Troll
Music man

[worn coral]

Plant dude?

[nimble pebble]

Jack Vine

[warm bone]

they forgot about him

[worn coral]

Forgetting? Is that a dark souls reference???

To the furtive Pygmy (so easily forgotten)

[nimble pebble]

There's a memeing about him not existing so yeah

[warm bone]

I am literally playing dark souls rn

[worn coral]

Which one

My favorite is 3, 1 is good too and I’m going to start 2 once I beat outer wilds

[dusty kettle]

Lmao what if they made the hornet dlc into its own game

[nimble pebble]

2 isn't made by Miyazaki so it's a big divide on whether it's good or not

[worn coral]

Yeah it’s kind of strange that they did that

[nimble pebble]

I believe it was so he could work on Bloodborne which is a banger of a game

[edgy basin]

what does one do in blighttown?

[worn coral]

I’m not allowed to play because funny blood and my dad hates all violence

[cerulean sable]

Social Media breakdown
Chris: "Support other artist and music rights, also check out this cover"
Jack: "This HK fanart is sick also currently playing Animal Crossing"
Ari:
Wilbo: s̶̝̉ǎ̵́w̵̙̃ ̷̪̅t̷̘͗w̵͌̓ò̶́ ̵̠̑b̴͙̈a̴͎̔b̷͑͝i̷̜̍e̴͐̍ŝ̷̭ ̵͖͛t̴̽̽o̸̍͝g̷̣͘ĕ̴̒t̷̄̉h̶͛̅e̴̒̓r̸̻̐ ̸̛͠ǎ̵̒ň̷̐d̵́͗ ̵̆͆c̶̋̎å̴͆l̸̒͒l̷̛̕ ̷̋̈ī̷͚t̵̊̕ ̸̌̽a̴͐͘ ̸̀̏r̸̹͋ë̷́̈v̵̳͘è̴̍r̷̔͝s̴͎͒e̷̘̋ ̸̇̇s̴̓̿ó̸̞l̶̛̚o̵̒mon

[nimble pebble]

Accurate

[serene chasm]

Ari posted a bit on neogaf pre HK

[worn coral]

I’ve never played animal crossing

[serene chasm]

same

[cerulean sable]

oh yeah forgot about that

also TC mentioned having played Final Fantasy and Yakuza in APWOT

[warm bone]

3

[nimble pebble]

I've only played New Horizons

[cerulean sable]

and they mentioned how detailed the food is in FF

[nimble pebble]

I thought this was Fearless Fox for a sec

[worn coral]

Best one

[cerulean sable]

and said how "it was unecessarily detailed but it still was, and i love it"
then continued talking about how the little things that might not feel much adds up a lot to the experience

[warm bone]

yeah Im invading rn

[serene chasm]

That section made me think theyre adding sitting and world interaction into SS

[cerulean sable]

yeah yeah

[worn coral]

Invading is fun

[nimble pebble]

Oh no does that mean Fearless Fox will be a JRPG or Brawler game

[cerulean sable]

small interactions ranging from stuff like Myla getting infected to White Lady commenting to you wearing Defender's Crest

[cerulean sable]

finally

[nimble pebble]

[worn coral]

What is fearless fox

[nimble pebble]

I don't like either genre but I hate JRPG a lot more Brawler is just hit or miss for me

[nimble pebble]

TC's newest trademark and likely their new IP

[worn coral]

I’m still a bit confused

I’ve never heard of it

[nimble pebble]

Personally I'd like to see Fearless Fox be a Puzzle Adventure or Adventure RPG

[nimble pebble]

It's in the list of TC trademarks

[worn coral]

It should be a soulsborne

[serene chasm]

paper mario like

[worn coral]

Papermarioborne

For games similar to paper Mario and Bloodborne

[nimble pebble]

Paper Mario is a decent style of RPG though if we're talking Mario RPG's then the Mario & Luigi series is better imo

[worn coral]

I’ve never played it

[nimble pebble]

The Mario & Luigi series is Goated

[warm bone]

they're pretty good

[nimble pebble]

I just wish Alphadream didn't make a poor decision and go bankrupt

[serene chasm]

I think I played a mario rpg on gb advanced. twas pretty good from what I remember.

[nimble pebble]

I sooooooooo want a Switch M&L game

[proud vale]

BROOOO I could really use a mario and luigi partners in time switch remake

[barren roost]

it has satan eyes?

[proud vale]

Oh but paper mario is certainly superior

the wii version anyway

[dusty kettle]

I wish the Nintendo Co. Ltd would just release good games, consoles, and customer service at a fair price

[analog lily]

fair price?

[shell yacht]

release games?

what was the gap on Metroid

Zelda

or Mario titles, not counting remakes ports or mobile platform spinoffs

[tight wedge]

I WANT SILKSONG

[shell yacht]

too bad

[analog lily]

[worn coral]

Really??

[tight wedge]

TAKE MY MONEY

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[proud vale]

Yeah true nintendo charge so much for everything

[analog lily]

shut up please

[tight wedge]

goddamn ok

[edgy basin]

2-3 years per game??

[shell yacht]

other M released 3 years ago?

what was the last main zeoda before botw

[edgy basin]

there was a metroid game in 2016

[proud vale]

Yeah they kind of dropped metroid in favor of other titles

[shell yacht]

im dumb but i dont remember one

[edgy basin]

Metroid federation force

[worn coral]

Didn’t they make it a shooter or soemthing

[edgy basin]

it's a shooter?

[shell yacht]

samus returns is farmiliar, MP FF is not

[worn coral]

What’s Metroid prime 4

[shell yacht]

so like 10 yr gap

[edgy basin]

what's the difference between Metroid Return of Samus and Metroid Samus's Return?

[shell yacht]

one if not both are remasters possibly on dif pkatforms

3ds titles tend to get new names for no reason

[edgy basin]

its a remake of return of samus apparently

[nimble pebble]

G.O.A.T Greatest Of All Time it's an expression ~~Though you're probably joking ~~

[mortal grove]

oh to be a game dev to a successful indie game buying lots of croissants

[crude galleon]

Sad but true

[coarse leaf]

Hornet is void

[analog lily]

Time to be sacrificed to TC

[coarse leaf]

But she’s void there’s proof

See

Ok I’ll stop meming around, she straight up says she does not share the same void the Knight does

[nimble pebble]

Correct

[warm bone]

very funny and original joke

[analog lily]

you have been forgiven for your crimes by admitting your incorrectness

[coarse leaf]

I can’t believe mossbag once thought Hornet was void too

[analog lily]

he did?

[coarse leaf]

Yeah in his Hornet isn’t void video

He said that he said Hornet was void in his Zote video

[analog lily]

oh wow, well then I will have to rewatch that to make sure

[mortal grove]

wtf is dsuield doing there

[cerulean sable]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HollowKnight/comments/pgareg/ok_now_i_understand_why_fire_hates_this_guy/ obligatory i am not looking forward to bosses that do this in Silksong (at least set the invincibility or the time they do this)

[coarse leaf]

Who’s the Druid with the green cauldron again

[mortal grove]

dont have a name

[coarse leaf]

Well what if she tries to dip Hornet in the cauldron because she’s a toon

[warm bone]

i'll just jump hornet into the cauldron myself

[peak dagger]

Hallo hallo any new news on Silksong?

Since like a week ago

[haughty ingot]

hopefully we’ll see less of this with how TC say that there’ll be less of this “mythical” aspects in silksong

there’s that one moment in the Seth gif where he kinda jumps back and vanishes

but maybe it’ll be something more akin to mantis lords vanishing or something? hopefully?

[cerulean sable]

as long as theyres good opportunities of attack

hu is just straight up invisible 50% of the time in my experience

and not being able to attack back while you wait for their iframes to disappear is lame

[haughty ingot]

grimm/nkg have a similar problem, though it’s not as bad as hu

[cerulean sable]

grimm is at least consistent with it

theres a variety to it and most his attacks can be damaged

except for NKGs spikes because he disappears

[haughty ingot]

honestly the best bosses are the ones that can be attacked the most

[proud vale]

True but the smaller bosses have to compensate for low health pool by having i frame time

[coarse leaf]

are we going to fight Maggot Prime in Silksong

[grim forge]

Definitely

[signal crag]

I mean, i still see SS being out in 2022 no problem, doesn’t seem that pessimistic

[fringe whale]

So, I had a thought. Seeing the multiplayer mod in Hollow Knight isn't too weird. It just looks like multiple vessels. But, multiplayer in Silksong? Seeing Hornet clones is not going to look right.

[grim forge]

I'm honestly surprised anyone is still holding out hope for this year

[rich fractal]

Scenes when it drops 2023

[worldly dune]

Hornet is made out of vantablack wtf u mean

[lapis pivot]

hornet is a sentient black hole

[hollow smelt]

Nah man hornet is a puppet controlled by an ant

[sharp peak]

she is in fact three kobolds in a red trenchcoat

[coarse leaf]

💨

[grim forge]

Why

[coarse leaf]

💨

💨

[sharp peak]

💨

[coarse leaf]

ok seriously this outdated scam message is bad <@&283547423706447872>

[sharp peak]

I am honestly not sure what it means
I was just going along with it

[coarse leaf]

I was talking about the nitro scam

[sharp peak]

ok gotcha

my bad

[coarse leaf]

nah its fine

I like your variation of the maggotprime fart joke

[cerulean sable]

destroyed

[coarse leaf]

yay

[sharp peak]

💨

[cerulean sable]

also pls dont emote spam or else i will find you where you live and proceed to replace your entire fridge with expired vegemite thank you very much

[coarse leaf]

oh no not the accursed vegemite

got it

[tribal merlin]

since it can't get worse, does vegemite become better when expired tho

[worldly dune]

wtf

i never tasted vegemite is it just australian nuttela

[sharp peak]

dont know
but replace that with frozen pizza and we are fine

[fleet temple]

already done that

[cerulean sable]

frozen pizza is unironically good

[cerulean sable]

but why

[tribal merlin]

umh... it isn't?

[sharp peak]

especially hawaian

[fleet temple]

[cerulean sable]

bro i legit eat frozen pizza

because i cant be assed to reheat it

im not wasting my time reheating it when at the end of the day its gonna turn into calories regardless

[tribal merlin]

put the frozen pizza in a blender to make an epic pizza ice cream

[worldly dune]

i like hawaiian pizza tbh

[sharp peak]

yes

[late yacht]

I eat frozen Hawaiian pizza

:)

[coarse leaf]

im excited to see more ants in Silksong

its almost like the npcs that were given little focus in OG Hollow Knight (the Weavers, the unused vessel peeps, the God Tamer herself) have more focus on their races in Silksong

[neon talon]

They were given plenty of focus, maybe you just didn't focus on them

[coarse leaf]

I meant the fact that the God Tamer is the only ant in HK1

[worldly dune]

lol

[coarse leaf]

the weavers have a lot more focus including a mini area and a charm, so maybe I shouldnt have mentioned them in this light

[hollow smelt]

Wait whi h enemies in hk were ants?

[coarse leaf]

just the god tamer herself

I mean just like every other bug she's based off of something and she looks the most like an ant

[mortal grove]

hello friends i am here

[errant hemlock]

hi

[proud vale]

Vegemite expires?

[nimble radish]

god tamer is a roach

[iron spear]

Oh wow it actually does

Well I mean... It has a use by date

Probably doesn't actually expire

[mortal grove]

oh my gosd shoe reveal

[tribal merlin]

SilkSong RELEASE DATE LEAKED 👀

[proud vale]

It's a guide for the weak willed to bow out

[hollow smelt]

I hate that this is what i thought aswell before i read the context

I hate myself kekw

[low nebula]

orugncirf h o w

[coarse leaf]

came on, saw your message, then saw the image
back to waiting 😔

[warped umbra]

LMAO

[lament drum]

vegemite is nowhere near nutella, its not chocolate at all

and all those people calling vegemite bad need to be aware of how much theyre putting on

i may be biased as an aussie but its absolutely fantastic

[worldly dune]

Im not aussie so

[lament drum]

if you can find it somewhere where you live i highly recommend trying it

[worldly dune]

I mean like everybody in the world just slaps nutella on bread and eat it

But yeah

[bronze jungle]

Did you beat p4?

[worldly dune]

No

||PV|| is screwing me up i should get better ||charms|| for it

Everytime he swings his ||nail|| and i ||shadow dash|| to him and keep getting hit

[mortal grove]

no need to spoiler

[mortal grove]

stop lol pogo instead

[rotund cloud]

The easiest way to beat PV is to be incredibly patient when attacking (it works for me)

[fierce grove]

Whose pv

Wait pure vessel

[bleak scarab]

Pig vegetable

[rotund cloud]

^^what he said

[worldly dune]

Jacob

Also spoiler

WAIT

[fierce grove]

Someone should donate a ton to the Kickstart to get pig vegetable

[bleak scarab]

ss discussion has become hk discussion now

[worldly dune]

this isnt help omg im dumb

[bleak scarab]

its fine, hope you beat PV

[nimble radish]

putting a space in doesn't mean it's ok to say

[fierce grove]

I spent 45 minutes thirsting for ss news

[worldly dune]

me too

[fierce grove]

I learned about the crest system which sounds fucking awesome

[worldly dune]

Anyways i should go back

[fierce grove]

To what

[worldly dune]

Watching youtube

[fierce grove]

Ah

[sacred stratus]

yay chat ded

[stark void]

So grimm troupe

How could it be possible in ss to have the grimm troupe back if hornet isnt a wilder of a dream nail?

Any ideas

[olive bobcat]

I doubt they'll show up

[worldly dune]

Yeah

[fallen void]

Ohhhh, TC. Or some say, Team Cherry...
Do you hear our prayers?
Grant us Silksong... Grant us Silksong...
No, we shall not abandon the dream...!
No one can delay it...! No one can delay it now!

[worldly dune]

no

[fallen void]

OOOOHHHH! Majestic! Developer is a developer, even in Australia!
But alas, not too fast... Development swirls and churns unending!

[worldly dune]

Spider died

[cerulean sable]

easy

they shouldnt

[mortal grove]

is this some kind of reference im too uncultured to understand

[mortal grove]

No troupe

[night hull]

It sounds like seer but talking about tc

Oh

[fallen void]

Yeah, it's dialog from best boss of the Bloodborne.

[olive bobcat]

Hand it over... that thing... your "original joke"