sk-discussion

[mortal grove]

all the flying enemies are so annoying to be honest

i speedran the mask piece with the flying bell people and somehow worked

[tall hinge]

[bleak scarab]

im using buzzshaw and oh my god I already made it to phase 2

[mortal grove]

there are other tools ????

[bleak scarab]

yes

[mortal grove]

[bleak scarab]

press i to change

[mortal grove]

somehow gruz mother is harder than lace in this demake

[tall hinge]

can someone explain zote boat to me? i think im missing the inside insight

[bleak scarab]

moss mother was so easy tho???

[mortal grove]

zote rhymes with boat thats it

[mortal grove]

she wasnt for me

[tall hinge]

actually?

people say it like it was a game that they scrapped or something

my life is a lie

[bleak scarab]

we both got diff silksets

hehe, get it?

[mortal grove]

maybe if i practice demake enough ill be able to kill lace ez when silksong comes out

[bleak scarab]

ye

flex on nubs you did lace first try

[mortal grove]

[bleak scarab]

bruh when lace does this stall thing I hate it

[mortal grove]

what stall thing

[crisp drift]

you know i thought this is hatter talking to himself

[mortal grove]

[crisp drift]

it's a hat talking to a hat

[bleak scarab]

Maybe I am

Jager are you part of my subconcious

[tall hinge]

who is jager

[pallid flare]

him

[crisp drift]

diacosiaseptahentagon

[tall hinge]

him?

[pallid flare]

yes him

[crisp drift]

also known as privacy & safety

[tall hinge]

[crisp drift]

also known as mijo

basically he is known for many names

[tall hinge]

ok

[bleak scarab]

I DID ITTTTTTTTT

[wind totem]

hey guys, i wanted to ask how can i play the silksong demake?

like download it properly

[marsh ibex]

alright so give me your credit card details and the 3 funky numbers on the back

[mortal grove]

you dont have to download it you can play it on browser

[sacred stratus]

wait what?

[wind totem]

ik but i just want the downloaded version so i can mess with the volume better and all that

[mortal grove]

[sacred stratus]

what to search in order to play the demake?

[bleak scarab]

@wind totem

[sacred stratus]

so this is not a thing?

[bleak scarab]

?

thats the link for the demake

[sacred stratus]

yeah. for some reason when I try to pick the level none of my keys work

[mortal grove]

press z

[sacred stratus]

bruh

[bleak scarab]

aww

[pallid flare]

you need a gba emulator

[bleak scarab]

you can also play straight from browser thats what I did

too lazy to download

[sacred stratus]

I can't get past the first area bcs the hitboxes are so shit

I'm trying to attack someone and I get hit even tho I do not touch them

[bleak scarab]

use the platforming to your advantage

[mortal grove]

yeah its like that

what i did was just speedrun through everything

[warped umbra]

yooo

[sacred stratus]

good idea

[warped umbra]

this is sick

[bleak scarab]

yea you rlly dont have a reason to attack enemies unless you need silk

[sacred stratus]

especially since you don't get shell shards and the fact that every attack you do has a high chance of getting you killed

[bleak scarab]

yea

beware of the flying enemies tho

I got knocked down too many times

[mortal grove]

getting hit = sent to brazil

[sacred stratus]

if I'm not mistaken someone is working on bringing back the demo as a mod for HK

[mortal grove]

project cancelled

[sacred stratus]

yeah I tried hitting them and even tho I was far away I still got sent to Brazil

[sacred stratus]

why tho?

I'm eager to play the demo

[bleak scarab]

this hit me almost as hard as getting hitting by those bastards mossflies

[sacred stratus]

dude that's so sad. the demo was out before I joined the community and now I wish I had the opportunity to play the demo

[bleak scarab]

[warped umbra]

damn fighting is so hard in this lol

[mortal grove]

hatter what if i changed my nickname to top hatter or magic hatter

[bleak scarab]

Impostera

[mortal grove]

confuse the people

[dusty nimbus]

Is there an 8bit silksong fan thing going on?

[sacred stratus]

it's a silksong demake

[dusty nimbus]

What that?

[sacred stratus]

it's not the greatest but it's the best thing we have so far

[trim estuary]

hey chaos

[sacred stratus]

basically it's the Silksong demo if it was on the gameboy

[bleak scarab]

its this thing

[dusty nimbus]

Heyo

[dusty nimbus]

Ty I'll try it out

[bleak scarab]

hope you enjoy it

[jovial gust]

thankyou fro spreading this bugged passion project of min @bleak scarab

[warped umbra]

bruh its so cool

fighting is somewhat difficult but other than that i love it, its awesome

[jovial gust]

im looking at the analytics and it already surpassed the hollow knight demake's views

[bleak scarab]

Np!

[jovial gust]

difficulty is a bit intentional in my part. its the "nes-hard" or "gameboy-hard" difficulty thing

[warped umbra]

yeah, it makes it challenging, its rly cool

i shall spread this around too, my friends will enjoy it

[broken ore]

How long has it been?🥸

[trim estuary]

Since what?

[broken ore]

Since SilkSong reveal🥸🥸

[stoic jacinth]

917 i think

[mortal grove]

whats up with the 🥸 emote

[stoic jacinth]

it slowly grows each time he sends a message

in a year it will consume all of #sk-discussion

[mortal grove]

oh god its spreading to #hk-discussion

[jade canopy]

Even if the game release ?

[stoic jacinth]

it never stops

[orchid rune]

Oh well guess its time to start throwing some vessels into the abyss

[broken ore]

The emote reflects the amount of manism of the Traitor “True” Lord in Hallownest🥸🥸🥸

[mortal grove]

[timid thicket]

Is silksong cancelled

[fleet temple]

no, it's just taking time

[tall hinge]

nope

[coarse leaf]

Yes, waiting

being patient

hope my son can see it

[timid thicket]

Why is there no release date?

[mortal grove]

cause they dont want to make promises they most likely cant keep

[tribal merlin]

because there was none announced
the underlying reason is that they're not finished

[coarse leaf]

Because they are still working on it.

[timid thicket]

How much would it take

[mortal grove]

we dont know

[tribal merlin]

until they're done, not a day earlier

I think not even TC know

[coarse leaf]

Nobody knows, including themselves

[cursive jetty]

After all this time I think I finally made peace with the fact that Silksong isn't out yet, I kinda stopped being impatient all of a sudden

[nimble pebble]

[fleet temple]

that is the final stage in the five stages of silksong

[pallid flare]

acceptance

only a few reach that stage

[cursive jetty]

I feel like I just completed my character arc

[pallid flare]

welcome to the council

[cursive jetty]

Ah yes pure focus

[short wagon]

Looking through the chat record, did Leth reveal any news about the song of silk yesterday

silksong

[nimble pebble]

[short wagon]

I feel like swearing

[nimble pebble]

Go ahead

[upbeat marlin]

Goddamnit it's not real

I got rickrolled

[nimble pebble]

Even better

[tropic mica]

What record?

[dusty nimbus]

The ultimate point of a silksong fan

When you come in this channel when you feel like it and not every day

[trim estuary]

Go ahead

[desert basin]

I haven't made it to acceptance yet, im just depressed

[signal crag]

i mean, at worst the game will still take a while to come out
it's not like it was cancelled or anything

[outer temple]

Do we know if ss will be on Xbox or ps?

[nimble pebble]

not at launch

Though Leth said they'd try for it post launch

[sacred stratus]

just buy it on Steam lmao

and bind the keys to actual comfortable ones bcs I swear to god I'm not gonna jump with the Z key

and attack with the X key

[nimble pebble]

Who uses the default bindings

[sacred stratus]

I play on Xbox but I know that the default controls on PC are weird af

[nimble pebble]

Indeed they are

I have them rebinded

On switch the controls are pretty nice though

[sacred stratus]

optimal keys:
jump with space
attack with left mouse
use tool with right mouse or heal doesn't matter which one
dash/ main movement ability with shift
secondary movement ability with ctrl

[sacred stratus]

on Xbox too they are pretty standard for platformers

[nimble pebble]

This is why plaformers are better played with controllers

[nimble pebble]

*Attacks with J

[sacred stratus]

I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just saying you're wrong

attack is always left mouse

[nimble pebble]

All keyboard no mouse is optimal for HK

[sacred stratus]

it's not a question or preference

[nimble pebble]

Attack is left mouse in games it's optimal in

Like Terraria

[wet moss]

i use left click for nail and right for dash

[nimble pebble]

Fair enough

Works for some people

[proper adder]

Hi ig

[surreal mortar]

Does anyone else prefer when attack is on the shoulder button for most games or is that just me

Like light/heavy R1/R2

But obv for hk attack on Y

[normal hinge]

ehhhhhh

[stark prism]

i had a nightmare once that silksong came out and was a generic pixel art metroidvania using the stinkyass nes speaker sound soundfont

[serene chasm]

What are you talking about? Attack is on X

[gritty heron]

[ ]

S Q U A R E

[gritty heron]

Only in shooty-shooty games

[surreal mortar]

Switch

[cloud forge]

that would be so hype

[surreal mortar]

They have attacking on the shoulder button in like sekiro, bloodborne, god of war, horizon and ghostrunner

[pallid flare]

everybody knows that attack goes on left mouse button

[surreal mortar]

I think it just makes weapons feel a bit more powerful idk

[serene chasm]

Cant you change the inputs on the switch version?

[dusty nimbus]

I put it on K...

My favourite thing

Btw K stands for Ketam.......

[reef scarab]

Are y’all playing Silksong on PC or Switch

Personally I’m going switch

[pallid flare]

does steam link count as pc

I wont own one either way

[nimble pebble]

I'll get it on Switch first then on PC later

[nimble pebble]

correct

[coarse leaf]

More than likely pc, especially since steam deck n stuff like that

[vagrant umbra]

I’ve been using a switch since last January, but after getting my dream pc, I’m not sure where to get it. I still got siblings that want to play it as well, so I guess I’ll get it for switch. I can’t be missing out on much.

Even if I did pc, I would still use my trusty pro-controller.

[serene chasm]

PC since I dont own a switch

[coarse leaf]

I still use controller

But ultrawide hollow knight is absolutely stupid and I love it

[vagrant umbra]

Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey are like the games of the decade. You’re missing out.

[vagrant umbra]

I just plug the switch to my monitor.

[serene chasm]

I played Botw on emulator and really didnt like it. Mario does look fun but Im not the biggest fan of those games. Ive never played a 3D mario game longer than a few hours

[coarse leaf]

But that gives black lines in my monitor 😅

[vagrant umbra]

Was… was it a Wii U emulator?

[orchid rune]

Wasn't the emulator laggy?

[serene chasm]

yeah CEMU. I might see if I can try it on the switch one, but Im pretty sure the game is the same

[vagrant umbra]

Some monitors have their own settings for resolution. Try messing with some buttons.

[orchid rune]

Switch one is more laggy

[coarse leaf]

It would stretch out the screen, it’s not a normal monitor it’s a 21:9

[vagrant umbra]

Wowza, nevermind than.

[serene chasm]

Nah, ran great. Only issue really was the puzzle where you have to use the wiiu gamepad to control the ball puzzle. But you just swing the mouse around till it goes in

[nimble pebble]

Lmao

[orchid rune]

Noice

[nimble pebble]

We'd all like that but you'll just have to wait like the rest of us

[shell yacht]

[nimble pebble]

[serene chasm]

bUt I wAnT SiLkSoNg nOw!

• angrily stomps ground *

[shell yacht]

ill chop ur feet off

[nimble pebble]

Calm down child

[serene chasm]

• stomps nubs on ground *

tis but a scratch

[coarse leaf]

Just a flesh wound

[marsh ibex]

imagine waiting for silksong

from the “moderators have free copies of silksong” gang

[coarse leaf]

Now that’s just a tease

A fair tease at that

[nimble pebble]

wym I'm playing it right now

[ocean mulch]

wym I'm playing it right now

[tribal schooner]

you would only miss out on potential mods

[vagrant umbra]

No mods doesn’t bother me. Crystal Obboblobbles can take a hike.

[tribal schooner]

obbles in general can take a hike

easily one of my least fav bosses. topped only by marmu and ascended markoth

[nimble pebble]

ascenkoth is fine

[vagrant umbra]

Marmu is kind of fun when get the rhythm. I haven’t figured out markoth yet.

[nimble pebble]

Radkoth is a prick though

Marmu more like *randomly clips your hitbox

[analog forge]

yeah but no mods means no custom knight

which means no starbunny hornet edition

[nimble pebble]

Custom hornet mod will be epic which is why I shall own it own both platforms

[reef scarab]

I played for three hours straight

[nimble pebble]

[reef scarab]

Radkoth is harder than radiant radiance

[analog forge]

byeah if your siblings want to play it, might as well get it on switch

[tribal schooner]

there is no way i could beat him right now. i beat ascenkoth once and i forgot to save afterword, so radkoth is like impossible for me right now

[nimble pebble]

TC makes games so nice I buy it twice

[wet moss]

i got all achieves and all rad on switch and steam
kill me please

[nimble pebble]

fair enough, he do be a prick afterall

[tribal schooner]

i think you are already dead

[nimble pebble]

I have also done that, it is pretty decent

Doing AB was

[wet moss]

i only did ab up to p4

p5 bindings is

[tribal schooner]

you guys are impressive. though ive recently gotten into the idea of grinding all the bosses again so i can beat p5. recently ive only been jumping on maybe once a week

i cant even beat p5

[wet moss]

if ss has a boss rush i hope the extra challenges arent just making everything take 3x as long

[marsh ibex]

fuck doing bindings

joycon drift can go suck an egg

[chilly nexus]

i mean all the bindings are pretty unique and encourage different playstyles. it's only really AB that's a straight up "take longer and be cleaner"

[tribal schooner]

all bindings does not apeal to me at all. also if your do all bindings without doing each binding separately do you get all the binding all at once?

[chilly nexus]

yep!

I did p1 AB for kicks

[nimble pebble]

Agreed, I don't think I'll do P5AB anytime soon

[wet moss]

is there any way to look at bindings to make them fun

[nimble pebble]

P1AB aside from Oro and Mato is actually not that bad

[tribal schooner]

thing is that if you work to do all the binding even just seprately on each pantheon and then beat markoth ascended and radiant you can pretty much beat p5 easy

[chilly nexus]

the nail binding: use spell/soul charms! the soul binding: use nail charms and (if you really want) deep+quick focus!

the other two are kinda just like, can you be clean, and can you do it without a build

[nimble pebble]

Weathered mask looks nice in my journal

[chilly nexus]

since I left zote for dead on my 111% (forget ToTF) steel soul file, I'm considering doing p5 now yeah

[tribal schooner]

quick focus works for the mask one. tho i prefer cleaner higher damage output when i play

[chilly nexus]

that's true yeah

and maybe the melody charm? tbh I used it to help me learn pv

[nimble pebble]

I remember using the Deep/quick focus charms for P4 Mask binding and just ended up doing PV hitless

[tribal schooner]

melody charm?

[chilly nexus]

the one you get from banishing the troupe

it'll nullify like 1 in 3 or 4 hits or something most of the time

[tribal schooner]

oh i still havent used that one

[wet moss]

thats alot better then a flying cat that spits hot furballs

[chilly nexus]

i only found a use for it when learning pv really. it can also come in handy for radiant fights

[wet moss]

WAIT IT WORKS IN RADIANT?

[chilly nexus]

you used to be able to stack it before starting a fight on radiant, to guarantee a proc on your first hit

they patched that though I'm pretty sure

[wet moss]

oh ok

[nimble pebble]

Melody would be better if it cost less charm notches a charm that's about being bad to work is pretty bad

[chilly nexus]

yeah sorry bout getting your hopes up 😅 it might still work though! I just don't think you can make it guaranteed anymore

[nimble pebble]

And before you try to argue against that stalwart shell is in the same boat

[chilly nexus]

I can see someone maybe using stalwart shell while going for the fog canyon charm notch on a steel soul file (literally the only time I save scummed)

[tribal schooner]

yeah i had a habit of using stalwart shell during my inicial playthrough and i suffered for it later. what can i say face tanking is a viable strat

for the bare minimum

[chilly nexus]

if it helps people face tanking then it definitely makes the game more accessible which isn't a bad thing

[nimble pebble]

That only applies to to early game and even then it's not all that great

Since Stalwarts shell's effect isn't even that good

[tribal schooner]

i would just tell people to get good. i had to cheese grim my first playthrough, which made NKG a monster to fight. i think it took me like 4 or 5 hours to beat him

[nimble pebble]

A charm that asks you to be bad at the game to work isn't a good charm

[tribal schooner]

it needs a buff in order to be a viable charm and even then it still promotes sloppy gameplay

[nimble pebble]

It can be useful if you are bad but if you want to improve it isn't what you should be using

[nimble pebble]

Agreed

[wet moss]

whats stalwart's most effective use, i never used it

[chilly nexus]

I rationalized banishing the troupe by saying that my godmaster file will have the grimm charm, so might as well get the melody charm on this file :p (on steel soul I fought him though)

[chilly nexus]

fog canyon with the possible chain explosions imo. i've never used it either though

[hasty wren]

any news?

[tribal schooner]

i used it against grim, lost kin and a couple other bosses. it just makes it so that if you get hit your invincibility frames last longer. now if it made your dash and dive frames last longer that would be something

[nimble pebble]

You gain an abysmal amount of I-frames and you got launched slightly less when hit which is also abysmal

[tribal schooner]

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[wet moss]

did you just sspsa yourself

[tribal schooner]

no gezbo asked for news

[wet moss]

oh
didnt see that

[tribal schooner]

i guess i could have made that a reply haha

[nimble pebble]

Beating a challenge more than once because you can beat it feels like more of a power move than just brute forcing it once and never being able to do it again

[tribal schooner]

it kinda depends on what you are going for. having the skill to consistently beat it is definitly more impressive over all but some people dont play games like that. to many in fact once the end credits role thats the end and they never replay the game.

[wet moss]

people beat games and dont return?

[nimble pebble]

That's like shelving a roguelike cause you beat it once

Also personally I'd like to know if my victory over said challenge was a fluke or not

Which is why consistency feels more empowering

[wet moss]

if thats the case, do radkoth consistently then

[nimble pebble]

Also the only type of games I'd consider shelving and not playing again would be very story driven games since the story is fresh on my mind and I've had my experience but even then I might play it later down the line once more so I don't get it

[marsh ibex]

yeah

[tribal schooner]

marmu is so dumb. beating her in the game wasnt bad but after that shes just annoying

[marsh ibex]

I do

because xenoblade chronicles is good

[tribal schooner]

i totally agree. but others dont to each their own right?

[marsh ibex]

but it’s a very, VERY long adventure

[nimble pebble]

I beat it 3 times that was enough

[tribal schooner]

im lucky to win that on a fluke, i would never try it again after that

[wet moss]

not replaying 20+ hour games is fine, i just mean 5-10 hour games

[tribal schooner]

1 was enough, too much in fact

[nimble pebble]

Long story games I can understand (though personally I might return after a few years) but why would you never play a game that's entire selling point is it's replayble again

[tribal schooner]

me: playing through zelda breath of the wild for the 5th time

[nimble pebble]

Same brother

[wet moss]

y e s

[haughty ingot]

i was right

[wet moss]

what

[haughty ingot]

what

[dusty lava]

wait huh

is there actually SS news today? what have i missed

[wet moss]

some trolling might be occurring

[haughty ingot]

no

[dusty lava]

oh okay lol

[haughty ingot]

but like imagine if

[tribal schooner]

i thought maybe you were refering to apwot

[pallid flare]

apwhat?

[haughty ingot]

pretty sure it won't contain ss news

[dusty lava]

i can see it having some small details

[haughty ingot]

that depends

i'm still not sure when it'll be released

[nimble pebble]

I'd be surprised if you actually didn't know what it was

[tribal schooner]

i thought it was getting shipped out soon

[dusty lava]

nothing big, but maybe TC talks a little bit about how things are going

from their twitter it seems like people might get it any day now, idk tho

[nimble pebble]

The APWOT issue was planned before SS was announced so it's about interviewing TC

[haughty ingot]

oh that's the first time i've heard about this

[dusty lava]

idk how recent the interview actually was

[nimble pebble]

Twas in a tweet

[reef scarab]

January

[dusty lava]

ah okay

[haughty ingot]

then what's that APWOT silksong art about?

[wet moss]

wasnt that edge?

[nimble pebble]

Probably just revised Edge magazine stuff

[tribal schooner]

the interview itself took place after the announcement tho. honestly imo i want to see a question about their feelings about everyone here on discord particularly our impatience. just to troll all of us

[nimble pebble]

Yes, however the interview was planned before it was so he was never going to ask SS questions

[tribal schooner]

oh

[dusty lava]

i think it mainly will go over their process of making stuff. the type of silksong stuff that could show up would be things like how they've talked about crunch months of working on the game and stuff like that. vague stuff if anything

[nimble pebble]

They haven't taken any crunch months for SS though

They have no deadline to crunch to

[dusty lava]

i thought i had heard that? was that for HK

[nimble pebble]

HK

[dusty lava]

oh i could have sworn that was in regards to ss

[nimble pebble]

So it will be in APWOT

[dusty lava]

and yeah ik they have no deadline

[nimble pebble]

Unless they mention it they haven't crunched for SS there's not really a reason to either, like I know they're workaholics but Wilbo's got a kid I think he has to be more reserved about these things

[tribal merlin]

crunch isn't just before a final deadline. it can also be used to reach milestones

[dusty lava]

yeah

[tribal schooner]

i think they said in a tweet that they took a break after a crunch for silksong. they may not have a deadline but those guys are hard at work to finish it

[nimble pebble]

TC is the only company I know that voluntarily imposes Crunch months on itself

[dusty lava]

yeah i really hope they aren't pushing themselves too hard

[nimble pebble]

I would like to see this tweet

[tribal schooner]

and sakurai

[nimble pebble]

Sakurai is a man not a company

A legend of a man but a man nonetheless

[tribal schooner]

it was the one when someone asked about them during covid to see if they were doing alright

[nimble pebble]

Well, Wilbo's got a kid, I don't think his wife would let him

[nimble pebble]

Ah yes, the classic COVID question

[tribal schooner]

one would hope. but i dont think so they still rest as needed and i think they honestly have a blast making the game so i wouldnt stress too much about them pushing too hard. though the community as a whole could be a little more patient

[nimble pebble]

I don't stress they push too hard They're vibing while making a game while this discord is on fire

This is TC
This is the community

[tribal merlin]

I wouldn't say fire, it's more like the sickly fermentation in a biogas generator

[nimble pebble]

Fair enough cheesoid fair enough

[tribal schooner]

acurate

[serene patrol]

No news today! But tomorrow for sure

[nimble pebble]

Sure

[outer junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrcFhyqQ1UQ

gotcha guys

[bronze jetty]

sure

[nimble pebble]

I literally know the guy who runs that channel, but nice try

[pallid flare]

wasn't the guy here a few minutes ago

[brazen owl]

ss chat died

[nimble pebble]

It was like 20 minutes ago but yeah

[tribal schooner]

who runs that channel?

and is he counting since the edge magazine?

[clear veldt]

How nice of TC to wait for prices on graphics cards to drop so I can enjoy silksong in 4k

[marsh ibex]

how is that a gotcha when the video is embedded

[wet moss]

NEW SILKSONG NEWS: the game is being worked on

[tribal schooner]

yaaaaaay!!!

[signal crag]

oh, i'm so happy to hear that

[shy stirrup]

Yall think ss will also have multiple endings?

[fleet temple]

probably

[shy stirrup]

I hope none of the endings can be accidentally locked

I know some people who accidentally locked themselves out of normal ending

[nimble pebble]

Me

[coarse leaf]

You

[nimble pebble]

It's honestly kind of dumb that getting voidheart stops you from getting ending 1

[shy stirrup]

Him

[tribal schooner]

they should have made it equipable to deactivate the extra ending

@shy stirrup have you beat p 5 yet?

[nimble pebble]

I mean it makes sense lore wise why it isn't unequippable

It's more a part of you than a charm

[tribal schooner]

lore wise what does the void heart give yout that makes entering thk possible?

[pliant crane]

y'all should release silksong now I wanna play it before I get arrested

[nimble pebble]

idk but it let's you kill rad

[atomic bloom]

if hornet wasn’t a pussy you’d be able to get into THK’s mind without the void heart

[undone nova]

PIN????

[formal karma]

uuuuh, it's unified the void, so you are one with THK, i guesss?

[atomic bloom]

[nimble pebble]

That's not how it works but believe that if you want

[magic narwhal]

Control over the void

Oh for entering THK?

[tribal schooner]

well i was thinking it had to do with uniting the void. maybe entering the mind of thk wasnt the real obstacle but rather having the nessesary force (the void) there to back you up made entering pointless, since it would leave tk inside to be killed and therefore no vessel to recieve the infection. therefore it would be a pointless attempt since he would be inevitably destroyed without the void

[magic narwhal]

Nothing that’s all Hornet

[pliant crane]

I don't think it makes entering THK any more possible than the Dream Nail does. I'm pretty sure that it's just so the void actually has a chance of beating the Radiance

[magic narwhal]

Hornet cracks the shell of THK allowing the Knight to DN the shade I guess....?

Or the infection within, not sure

[tribal schooner]

right and hornet wouldnt help unless she forsaw some way for tk to win, meaning the void heart was a necessity for success

[magic narwhal]

I mean it is

You need it to stop the Radiance

[pliant crane]

If we're being technical, at the end of the radiance fight THK's shade could just beat the heck out of her

[nimble pebble]

No it could not

[magic narwhal]

Depends how long it took for them to recover from the previous fight

[tribal schooner]

now does the knight need to hit the radiance or would she have been drowned in the void regaurdless?

[nimble pebble]

VH is what helped TK Finish off Rad THK just made it more convenient

[magic narwhal]

I think the strikes are what weaken her to the point where she can be consumed

[nimble pebble]

I think the hitting is for satisfaction of the player as in all radiance dies endings she gets murdered by void

[magic narwhal]

The Knight is essentially striking her very essence (ha) with those blows until she stops resisting

[tribal schooner]

i think it would be funny if the void is just holding her down and like " alright tk you wanna slap this brat before we destroy her?"

[nimble pebble]

Remember TK with VH is a HB

[magic narwhal]

Not exactly

[nimble pebble]

yes exactly

[tribal schooner]

what is HB?

[magic narwhal]

No, Godseeker gives us a bit more insight

[nimble pebble]

Higher being

[magic narwhal]

The statue of the Knight specifically

[tranquil igloo]

ss dosen't exist

[tribal schooner]

oh i was thinking hive blood hahaha

[magic narwhal]

“Neither bug, nor beast, nor God”

[nimble pebble]

The statue of the knight isn't the knight with VH if you mean the one that gives the void idol

[magic narwhal]

Do you mean the Void Given Form then?

[nimble pebble]

TK or LoS in DNM is void given form which is a HB and SL is void given focus which is sitll a HB but stronger

[magic narwhal]

The Knight only becomes a HB after Godhome’s ending

Well “true” HB

[tribal schooner]

did any of you notice that the diologue for the godseekers is different when you unlock godseeker mode

[nimble pebble]

Incorrect

[pallid flare]

what are all these acronyms

[magic narwhal]

By technicality they were born as one

[nimble pebble]

HB isn't inherited it's a title

[pliant crane]

okay but those last few blows could have been administered by the graphically stronger Hollow Knight's shade

[nimble pebble]

I'm going to have to drag you into lore since this isn't the channel for this

[nimble pebble]

That's not how it works dude

[magic narwhal]

Yes, and Godseeker only begins to apply it to the Knight after POH

Or her version of it anyway

[pliant crane]

And why not?

[magic narwhal]

If the Knight was a HB, she would have more interest in them beforehand

[nimble pebble]

Godseeker thinks an overgrown fly and large bush are gods it's not very valid since her definition of Gods or HB is different

[signal crag]

The Knight, Lord of Shadows, Dream No More, Higher Being, Shade Lord

[pliant crane]

There is not a single reason, lore or otherwise, that the hollow knight's shade couldn't've dealt that final blow

[nimble pebble]

It doesn't have VH

[signal crag]

maybe i got a couple wrong

[tribal schooner]

she says she was wrong though later. that they misjudged tk, and that tk was the being they were searching for all along

[nimble pebble]

[pliant crane]

Okay and? Void Heart is only used when the void consumes the radiance, not when hollow knight is hitting her in the yee

[magic narwhal]

Fine, but I think someone like WL would also notice something like that

[nimble pebble]

VH is the reason Rad dies

[pliant crane]

He does not need void heart to control his own shade, or else THK wouldn't be able to control his shade in there either

[magic narwhal]

Considering she and her husband were both HB

[pliant crane]

Yes, but the hollow knight's shade still could've been the one to hit her last, instead of us

This is why I generally don't join discord servers y'all have really dumb ways of looking at things

[rotund aurora]

anyone think silksong will be at gamescom?

or is that the wrong thing lol

is it even possible?

[nimble pebble]

she has a comment about VH I believe and Bardoon straight up implies TK's HB status

[tribal schooner]

the void heart is what unites the void to the aid of the knight correct

[nimble pebble]

THK doesn't have the level of strength needed for that

[tardy orbit]

Yeah there’s always an absurdly specific interpretation of the lore like this lol

[rotund aurora]

like i understand its stupid but i was just wondering lol

[nimble pebble]

VH unites the void under TK yes

[pliant crane]

Well then how does he have the level of strength to hold her eye open? He's really not any weaker than the knight, he just wasn't as hollow as TPK thought

[pallid flare]

the chances are lower than normal

[rotund aurora]

ik. but is it possible?

[pallid flare]

everything is possible if you believe hard enough

[tribal schooner]

the term higher being seems to be opinion based since many of the characters underestimated the strength of tk. they prove themselves to everyone including the godseeker

[nimble pebble]

TK is a HB THK isn't, that's all there is to it

[rotund aurora]

alright, thank you.

[pliant crane]

The Knight's not a higher being. The Hollow Knight isn't either

[tardy orbit]

I don’t know where you’re getting the knight is a higher being

[pliant crane]

The knight is just like all the other vessels, so if he WAS a higher being, THK would be too. You make literally no sense

[magic narwhal]

The term God perhaps, the term HB not as much

[tardy orbit]

Is there a text snippet I’m missing?

[pliant crane]

I mean like I think he became kind of a higher being when he got the King's Brand

but even then that was just like a fraction of higher being power from the brand

[nimble pebble]

[tribal schooner]

a little yeah. i think tc wanted the lore to remain relatively open to interpretation but this server has kinda canceled the idea

[tardy orbit]

True

[magic narwhal]

Eh? I don’t think we have any evidence of the Brand giving the Knight power

[nimble pebble]

Incorrect

[pliant crane]

Ew go away. I've brought up situation after situation explaining why i believe what i belive

and then you go "The knight is HB and THK isn't. fact"

[magic narwhal]

They are unable to break the seal on WP with it, so I doubt it

[nimble pebble]

Because it is a fact

[pliant crane]

and then don't give any explanation? like omg go away

[nimble pebble]

I did give one

[pliant crane]

Quote me the lore that tells you it's a fact. Cause so far you haven't

[nimble pebble]

You didn't like it, that's not really my problem

[pliant crane]

No you didn't. Not once

[magic narwhal]

I don’t think it takes a HB to kill a HB

[tardy orbit]

Can you back this up with a text snippet describing the knight with void heart as a higher being. I wouldn’t be surprised if there is one but evidence would be nice

[nimble pebble]

not necessarily but it helps

[magic narwhal]

Otherwise how tf would Grimm’s ritual work?

[pliant crane]

"she has a comment about TK and Bardoon implies the Knight's HB status" that is speculation, there is absolutely no concrete evidence there

[signal crag]

is this #hk-lore?

[tardy orbit]

It’s #random

[pliant crane]

like all that's being asked of you is evidence and you're just like "uhh no I'm right" like are you 12?

[magic narwhal]

K, let’s stop escalating

[tribal schooner]

in reality one could trust a release date announcement any day. events only slightly increase the possibility

[nimble pebble]

hhhmmmm... Tiny thing... It evolves beyond that Wyrm. Such union in a single being. A strength before unseen. Would it too challenge nature? It could perhaps defeat it.

We should take this to lore ngl

[tardy orbit]

Interesting quote

[magic narwhal]

I think that’s just referencing the fact that the Knight is a union of 2 opposite powers

[tardy orbit]

I agree

[nimble pebble]

it's the line for having VH

[magic narwhal]

Soul - life energy, and void - necrotic (?) energy

[rotund aurora]

True ig

[magic narwhal]

Yes?

At that point they have remembered who they are

[tribal schooner]

tk is a HB because of what he accomplishes not because of any greater inherent power. at least thats how i understand it

[tardy orbit]

Yeah the unification of the void is the union bit.

[pliant crane]

oop y'all said take it to #hk-lore so I did and now none of you are

[nimble pebble]

I want to but Dragoncorn isn't moving

[pliant crane]

well then being a higher being is completely subjective and has nothing to do with his ability to kill the radiance over THK's.

[livid oracle]

anyone get the magazine yet?

[nimble pebble]

APWOT?

[livid oracle]

yes

[tribal schooner]

correct. the title higher being is nothing more than a title for one who shows greater power than the average bug. most do not rever tk inicially then they prove themself to everyone earning the title higher being. THK could very likely be considered a higher being but we have no individual in the game who explicitly considers him a higher being

[tribal schooner]

so tk is naruto? basically

[nimble pebble]

[pliant crane]

I never said he was, just that if the term is subjective like that, then TK being a higher being is NOT the reason he killed rad

[nimble pebble]

Why'd you leave lore bro

[tribal schooner]

also correct. from what i can gather THK could have also dealt the final blow but i percieve it as his role being supportive to the individual who seemed to be having success, that being tk

[nimble pebble]

THK plays a supportive role since it would not be capable of killing rad since VH is what allows TK to do that

[wary marlin]

Silksong

[nimble pebble]

Yeah that's why I asked we move to lore which most of us did but some still here I see

[tribal schooner]

there is not enough evidence to more than speculate the reason for why tk dealt the final blow vs another. in reality it is just how it played out. plus it would seem that holding the eye of the radiance was necessary therefore thk took it upon himself to do just that.

[nimble pebble]

that's your que grand

[tribal schooner]

my que? what is que?

[nimble pebble]

#hk-lore

[outer temple]

I want a physical release

[nimble radish]

I want a physical form

[nimble pebble]

A physical release of SS will likely happen eventually

[outer temple]

yay

[tribal merlin]

just print it out

[nimble radish]

print what out

[pallid flare]

the game

[tribal merlin]

then you send the 18 packages of paper over to TC to have each page autographed

[nimble pebble]

[shy stirrup]

Hk but silksong but physical = pog

[nimble pebble]

Want to look at a random tool and speculate again?

[signal crag]

Oh, sure

[brittle garnet]

whatever this is

[signal crag]

I have just the one perfect for the occasion

[haughty ingot]

man like
what are those even

[haughty ingot]

like, grenade maybe?

[signal crag]

The one in the orange circle reminds me a bit of a "Folding Karambit"
#sk-discussion message

[pallid flare]

"that tool simply struck me as bottle opener, yeah"

[nimble pebble]

Looks like a grappling hook or zipper pin ngl

[brittle garnet]

i think it looks like a knife or cutter of some kind

[signal crag]

the one at the bottom instead....the grey/iron looking object looks to be a nail of some kind.

it also has that common Pharloom symbol

[nimble pebble]

Looks like an emblem of sorts

[potent plover]

do you guys think I can manage myself to play only 2 hours of silksong each day when its out?

because I've been known to binge games for over 9 hours in my free time

[signal crag]

I actually had a similar idea, not gonna lie

Just taking my time nice and slow...

[potent plover]

hopefully I can stick to it

[white horizon]

I wont say what this seems but you can get this by yourself

[tall hinge]

it looks exactly like the saw blade that she throws out. im imagining it looks like this and then she throws it and it expands. like those lines look exactly like the lines on the sawblade imo

[nimble pebble]

That's an interesting take

[brittle garnet]

but those are blue tools, which are most likely passive, besides we've already seen the saw in the trailer, in the red category

[tall hinge]

i dont see this take a lot and i thought it was my first instinct lol i was really surprised when no one said it

[potent plover]

give me some silksong gameplay/progression theories I can put on a notepad

[tall hinge]

really? dang didnt know that

can you send screenshot of it?

[vivid belfry]

the 3 category thing is so wack because there's an inequality in how they're differentiated

[potent plover]

we know the red ones are ones you can activate, One is passive ( possibly ) and my best guess for the last is it affects hornets masks/spool meter or something like that

[vivid belfry]

red tools are all triggered by a button press and they have no other features differentiating them from the other 2 categories but like... there's not two other equivalents of active

you can't have passive and then some third thing

[potent plover]

Maybe one is for aggresive passive effects and one is for defenseive/support passive effects?

[vivid belfry]

it's two different kinds of passive but we don't know what the differentiating factors are

[tribal merlin]

active, passive and pickles

[vivid belfry]

could be offense/defense, could be stat boosts/more interesting modifiers, could be related to movement vs damage output

[signal crag]

Are Pickles canon in HK world?

[nimble pebble]

Pickle moment

[serene chasm]

Pickle Hornet

[potent plover]

do you guys think grindle will offer information for mandatory progression?

[signal crag]

Yeah, yellow and blue category difference is one of the major things i wonder about

[serene chasm]

Grindle will sell hornet drugs

[tribal merlin]

pickled organs that when eaten give you a special ability from the enemy it came from

[vivid belfry]

by the way

[potent plover]

Because paying for lore seems ehhh

[vivid belfry]

I think this tool is the one that reduces the cost of binding by a notch

[signal crag]

What? You only get lore by beating the hardest platforming challenge in HK

[nimble pebble]

"Give me 3000 rosaries"
"You jump with Space"

[potent plover]

Like hints on where to go next

[chilly nexus]

Blue I'm farily confident is silk related. The icon is a line (like the silk spools), and the green tool we've seen in the blue category is likely what created the green bead on hornet's silk spool in that screen shot (so the tool is silk related). We've also seen a weaver looking tool in the blue category (likely also silk related), as well as one that looks like a mechanical thorax (likely silk related). The yellow category's symbol is a compas so just anything that isn't a combat tool and not related to silk

[burnt topaz]

You get the choice to kill him after that

[serene chasm]

Holy shit thank you!

[potent plover]

"pay me 2000 rosaries"

"Click B to pay rosaries to NPC's"

[balmy carbon]

is silksong out yet?

[serene chasm]

Are you playing it?

[tall hinge]

yes

[viral pivot]

Omg what groundbreaking advice, i never wouldve known!!

[potent plover]

[balmy carbon]

liar

[tall hinge]

[chilly nexus]

the worst is when you pay for legitimate advice but you've already found the secret they're trying to guide you to and are just like

[pliant crane]

I believe the yellow tools are passives, and the blue tools are out-of-combat active abilities (like a grapple or smth)

[balmy carbon]

i am the silksong

[nimble pebble]

[vivid belfry]

making movement abilities only swappable at benches sounds like a headache

[tall hinge]

may i play you

[nimble pebble]

I agree

[rancid crow]

gud night

[potent plover]

So like mandat

[balmy carbon]

only cool people get to play me

[rancid crow]

hello

[tall hinge]

[balmy carbon]

sorry, gotta try harder

[nimble pebble]

[potent plover]

maybe instead of abilities themselves, It aids already existing abilities, Like dashmaster or sharp shadow in hollow knight

[burnt topaz]

Population of cool people: 📈

[balmy carbon]

i mean i am a good judge of cool people

[pliant crane]

The hollow knight's movement abilities weren't charms, so why would Hornet's movement abilities be tools?

[burnt topaz]

Am I cool?

[pliant crane]

oop I replied to the wrong comment

[balmy carbon]

yes a 8.5/10

[trim estuary]

Population of dead people: 📉

[tall hinge]

because of the symbols we saw in trailers and screenshots

[serene chasm]

You're 0k

[pliant crane]

? you mean the other abilities? show me one equipped tool that gives her a movement ability

[burnt topaz]

Hornet definitely gets movement upgrades, such as the spike thing which gives her a sort of double jump but it doesnt seem all that powerful

[pliant crane]

Y'all are literally idiots. I never said that the tools don't UPGRADE the movement abilities, I said that they AREN'T the movement abilities.

[burnt topaz]

yeah, i agree with that

[pliant crane]

The spike thing UPGRADES her jump, it does not create it

[tall hinge]

yeah youre right, i meant hornet's offensive abilities, not her movement

sorry

[burnt topaz]

I only saw half the conversation, you're right

[nimble pebble]

No need to insult everyone

[burnt topaz]

literal idiots we are

[tall hinge]

arent we all

[signal crag]

That’s a tool

[tall hinge]

yes, thats what they were saying in that message

[stark prism]

What will happen first? I succesfully convert the entirety of gangnam style into a jpeg by using black magic and audacity? Or team cherry makes a blogpost?

[nimble pebble]

I'm gorb brained thank you

[burnt topaz]

yeah that, i know its a tool

[signal crag]

Movement upgrades could very well be tools,
Just permanent ones separate from the system
Like displayed in that “backpack” menu

[ember geode]

Tools sounds like it will affect gameplay so much more than charms

Not sure if that’s a bad thing or a good thing

[tall hinge]

guess we'll have to wait and see

[nimble pebble]

Good imo

[ember geode]

Hopefully there won’t be a meta of some sort

[signal crag]

As long they are balanced and all actually useful, everything it’s going to be okay

[nimble pebble]

This is a good point

[signal crag]

There will, it happens with every game

[nimble pebble]

I feel tools will be more balanced than charms now that they know what they're doing

[ember geode]

That makes 2-3 tools extremely op while others are bad/below average in comparison

But I trust team Cherry to make them balanced

[analog forge]

Metas emerge no matter how balanced

[signal crag]

Wasn’t the whole charm system made shortly before the game was out?

[nimble pebble]

Yes

I think the solution is making all tools viable rather then preventing the meta

[signal crag]

Oof, that’s probably a good reason why most are quite bad then and the best ones are also the most boring lol

[ember geode]

Some more effective than others tho

[signal crag]

Well, in different situations, yeah for sure

You can’t expect every tool to be equally good for every scenario

[ember geode]

I’m happy they’re keeping lifeblood in silksong

[nimble pebble]

Because the Meta isn't just good in HK everything else is dog shit garbage in comparison

[tribal merlin]

things quickly can get far too complex to formally balance.
Like should you take away one step from that ladder or add fries to the steak?
can't even begin to measure that

[ember geode]

I really want to know more about lifeblood and what they do, and the lifeblood beast if that’s their name

[signal crag]

All tools simply needs to feel viable for players, like having genuine options
If some are a bit better overall, then okay, but having interesting options that are also not trash would be an ideal scenario for me

[signal crag]

Lifeblood beast, it doesn’t have an official name i believe

[tribal merlin]

there's got to be some trash ones tho to teach you to think about your choices

[nimble pebble]

LBB is a HB imo

[tribal schooner]

honestly that is one of the few things that has a decent chance of showing up again in silksong

[shy stirrup]

For sure. Imo thats why pk said lifeblood cringe

[nimble pebble]

Same

[signal crag]

You mean, like, intentionally trash?

[tribal merlin]

like appealing on the surface but rotten on the inside

[shy stirrup]

Yeah thats fine but like in hk over 50% of charms are completely useless

[nimble pebble]

^

[heavy bluff]

i wonder if hornet will have some different outfits like they could change depending on what tools you have equipped etc

[tribal merlin]

didn't say HK system was good 😉

[shy stirrup]

Like who the fuck is out here using stalwarts shell

[tribal schooner]

like stawart shell?

[tidal prawn]

Anybody doing any rad

[ember geode]

Anyrad

[nimble pebble]

Apparently some people earlier said they used it

[shy stirrup]

For what?

[ember geode]

My first gameplay thought was = the more expensive it is the better the charm is

[shy stirrup]

I dont even remember what the hell it does and i eat sleep breathe this game

[tribal schooner]

i did early game

[ember geode]

That’s why I used quick focus so much

[shy stirrup]

Same with heavy blow like ik for a fact you are not using it more than once to see what it does

[ember geode]

Invincibility frames are longer when hit

[nimble pebble]

@shy stirrup it adds abysmal I-frames and recoil recovery that isn't even useful

[signal crag]

i think even TC knows that charm is a joke

but they also nerfed Joni's blessing for no real reason

[chilly nexus]

time to overcharm with soul eater, deep focus, and hiveblood

[shy stirrup]

At least stuff like flukemarm charm is situational but still sometimes useful

[tribal schooner]

that one is mostly just fun

[chilly nexus]

I unironically used king's soul for a bit when I unlocked it

[nimble pebble]

Remember at one point Quick slash was two charm notches

[shy stirrup]

Same with defenders crest. Like mid game its fairly okay

[tribal schooner]

when?!

[nimble pebble]

Flukenest got nerfed to shit

[shy stirrup]

You got an extra notch? Just slap that on

[tribal schooner]

that sounds op

[nimble pebble]

A while back before it got nerfed

[ember geode]

My friend used it as a joke and it made him win so many bosses somehow

[pallid flare]

remember when steady body was good? me neither

[nimble pebble]

Always has been

[signal crag]

steady body is.....a weird one

[chilly nexus]

imagine running strength, mark of pride, shaman stone, and quick slash all in one

[shy stirrup]

It makes the game harder imo

[ember geode]

I don’t get the hype behind steady body but if people like it then I have nothing to say about it

[tribal schooner]

crystal gaurdian didnt stand a chance

[nimble pebble]

Steady body is stupid broken with Quick Slash

[shy stirrup]

Like maybe its usefull for tmg and nkg but like its 2 notches

[shy stirrup]

It is?

[tribal schooner]

no one stands a chance

[nimble pebble]

[signal crag]

i don't think it's bad, but nullifyng the knock back you get from hitting enemies is definitely an impactful thing, not sure if in a good way or not

[ember geode]

I’m guessing it’s good against the bosses that get knockback

[chilly nexus]

go steady body + heavy blow for the memes

[tribal schooner]

that makes sense

[signal crag]

but yeah, it's a charm that can work well in certain builds

[chilly nexus]

steady body heavy blow quickslash mark of pride

[tribal schooner]

that might be a viable strat for marmu

[signal crag]

glowing womb, on the other hand, despite having a neat concept on paper, in reality it's just worthless

[chilly nexus]

marmu is legit one of my least consistent bosses in the game

[nimble pebble]

Strength Steady body and Quickslash is the ultimate "if it stays still for 0.5 seconds it dies" add in whatever else you want in there with your left over charms

[chilly nexus]

marmu and gpz

[tribal schooner]

that needs a serios buff in damage or something

[ember geode]

“Yo these guys look like me how cool”
“They take soul ”

[signal crag]

mainly for the damage that's just not worth it, the fact that takes away soul that could be used for spells or healing is even worse

[nimble pebble]

Clips your hitbox

[chilly nexus]

glowing womb feels more like a handicap than a charm ye

[nimble pebble]

The only time I use Glowing womb is for meme builds

[signal crag]

just a damage buff would at least make it an actual choice to consider

[chilly nexus]

like you're basically forgoing all control over your soul

[nimble pebble]

Like that one time I beat Rad Absrad with a full minion build

[tribal schooner]

makes me think a charm that shrinks your hitbox would be interesting

[chilly nexus]

and using notches to give that up

does it at least deal the same damage as a shaman stone shade soul?

[tribal schooner]

that is funn

[signal crag]

also i really don't want another fragile strength type of tool, more damage is alright, but there needs to be an actual cost for doing that

[nimble pebble]

Got to love how Marmu just randomly clips through your Nails hitbox and slaps you

[signal crag]

also her bouncing physics it's sooo bad sometimes

[coarse leaf]

Gwomb? Close, about 31 dmg less

[signal crag]

in some cases, she doesn't even take knockback properly

[tribal schooner]

guys a charm that shrinks your hitbox but that also reduces your damage output

[nimble pebble]

You know it was cool that the recent update fixed instant aspid jars but it would be cool if they fixed Marmu's hitbox clipping

[signal crag]

it's the nail range the same tho?

[tribal schooner]

yes

[chilly nexus]

a glowing womb joni's blessing run would be pretty cool actually

[tribal schooner]

if you nerf to much for it then it ruins the advantage

[nimble pebble]

Oh we know, it just isn't happening

[chilly nexus]

like just forgo spells and healing

[shy stirrup]

How bout they fix FUCKING BROKEN VESSEK AND PV FALLING ON YOU WHEN YOU STAGGER THEM AND FUCKING KILLING YOU THESE PEICES OF SHIT

[nimble pebble]

[signal crag]

so....making bosses not stagger if they are up in the air?

[nimble pebble]

Reminds me of "Unavoidable chin move"

[signal crag]

oh, is that an actual thing? didn't know about that

[shy stirrup]

Just make it so u dont take damage by walking into them when staggered

They didnt i lost a p5 run to that last week

[signal crag]

that....could be a solution for sure?

[shy stirrup]

I sharp shadowed into him and he fell on me

Or just have the boss launch all the way across the arena

Atl like 80mph

[nimble pebble]

I agree with the initial stagger shouldn't do damage but if you walk into the boss staggered on the ground that's really your fault and I don't think a corporal being should be capable of being phased through just because you make that mistake

[shy stirrup]

Ah i play on switch so i thought u meant that nvm

[tribal schooner]

lost kin drives me crazy with that crap

[shy stirrup]

Yeah that works too

[nimble pebble]

Epic

[shy stirrup]

Thats why bosses with no staggers or weird staggers are poggers

[nimble pebble]

I like that staggers continue even if you hit the boss during it in SS

[signal crag]

yeah

[shy stirrup]

I like the dazed animation too

[signal crag]

especially since now you need to have the spool full to heal, you might need those last few hits to heal

[shy stirrup]

It makes it a lot clearer even tho it was already clear

[nimble pebble]

Same

[signal crag]

lmao

maybe instant dash could save you there, but a few frames that it doesn't deal damage to you would be very appreciated for these kind of situations

[reef scarab]

For every purchase of Silksong ari gets one croissant

[shy stirrup]

French? Cringe

[nimble pebble]

Seems like Lace tries to concuss you with a backwards headbutt

[reef scarab]

Agreed but higher being Ari loves croissants and we must respect him.

[signal crag]

oh well, this was interesting
Off to bed i go, good night

[nimble pebble]

Ari likes Croissants can't believe you didn't know that smh

🥐

[tall hinge]

🥐

[reef scarab]

Every member of team cherry is a higher being

[tribal schooner]

highest being actually

they are the gods that created the gods of hk

[grand crow]

still waiting for silksong

[nimble pebble]

Aren't we all

[shy stirrup]

Yall remember grindle

He was poggers

[nimble pebble]

"Give me 3000 Rosaries"

"You jump with space"

[tribal schooner]

i want a haggle system for that stuff

graig is on

but when gridle says 300 thousand i want to be able to say, il give 2.5 rosaries

[nimble pebble]

"5 bucks final offer"

[reef scarab]

A lot of what he says might be lore stuff, possibly?

[tribal schooner]

grindle is like alright well played

[reef scarab]

Mossbag is gonna drain his entire bank account on grindle

[tribal schooner]

just like all lore From TC very hazy

[haughty brook]

Maybe Grindle can help guide trough quests or things like by asking specific questions because Hornet can actually talk to people.

[chilly nexus]

SS lore should also be a ton easier to figure out though with it likely involving physical, currently existing characters, and hornet's being able to talk. we don't need to connect too many metaphysical dots with magic or beings that are overly magical (at least compared to HK)

[rancid crow]

im thinking on giving up on ss and on ss news

[nimble pebble]

Hornet can talk

[rancid crow]

yeah

[tribal schooner]

dont give up ss could come out tomorrow or get a release date

[reef scarab]

Yeah I just hope I understand what’s going on this time

[nimble pebble]

Maybe, who knows

[formal karma]

i mean, yea give up on news and find something else to do- there will always be news... someday

[nimble pebble]

[formal karma]

i just picked up axiom verge, for instance

more filler for the silksong waiting room........

[chilly nexus]

maybe you'll understand even before the game is out 👀

[tribal schooner]

im looking at ori and axiom verge

[formal karma]

both are rgeat, i recomend both

for entirely different reasons, of course, but still

[reef scarab]

I hope silksong’s story isn’t based around another kind of infection

for real metroidvania infection plots are waayyyyy overused

[tribal schooner]

which should i play first

[warm bone]

we already know it's about a curse right?

[formal karma]

some sort of curse, yea

[reef scarab]

Wasn’t that said by a treehouse host though?

[chilly nexus]

In team cherry's words, pharloom is haunted by silk and song, so there'll likely be some sort of 'infection' type thing(s)

[tribal merlin]

I think TC calls it a "haunting", curse may be inaccurate

[reef scarab]

I just hope it’s a lot less like an infection

[tribal merlin]

with all this pandemic stuff everybody should love infections by now

[chilly nexus]

it's less disease that kinda just arbitrarily spreads, and more things that are being used/abused by others to exert control

[nimble pebble]

Haunting is a haunting

They are haunted by it

[tribal merlin]

Hornet is basically ghostbusters

[pallid flare]

isnt that the knight

with its dreamnail and all

[tribal merlin]

then Hornet is ghostbusters 2

[nimble pebble]

No, the infection is a literal infection

[tribal merlin]

it's a figurative curse, not a literal one

[nimble pebble]

We did that for an hour once

We got shut down by the mods

Nah it was back when we first invented it

[orchid rune]

So nww topic what are your thoughts about the citadel

[pallid flare]

shiny

[orchid rune]

I think it's great mostly the clock tower

[formal karma]

it's gonna be cliche.... is my guess\

[orchid rune]

Yes shiny is a great opinion

[pallid flare]

if it's not shiny then i'm boycotting

[nimble pebble]

Same

[coarse leaf]

The infection acts similar to the zombie ant fungus, it forces the bug to do something until its dead, pheramones play a big role in ants and eusocial insects, and this fungus is able to build its own will on the ant, just like the infection is taking over the bug minds.

[nimble pebble]

The infection reanimates though

[coarse leaf]

You mean make the bugs bigger?

[nimble pebble]

And the haunting seems to be puppetering

[nimble pebble]

No, it brings dead bugs back to life

It does infect some live bugs but it does reanimate

[coarse leaf]

Give an example of a bug that is brought back to live that is not a void being

[orchid rune]

The husks

[nimble pebble]

90% of the generic husk type enemies

[formal karma]

yea... a lot of enemies are 'zombies'

[orchid rune]

Broken vessel I think

[coarse leaf]

Yep that checks out, its much more advanced

[formal karma]

cordyceps is what you're thinking of, and it's WAAAY more than ants...

[warm bone]

its like, all the bugs

[coarse leaf]

The reason enemies in ss are harder is because they are puppetiered,
The way the radiance gives commands to infected bugs is by saying to them thier goals, we can see this in mila her will is getting overriden by the radiance, the radiance does not have full control over the infected bugs, its more like its saying commands, the curse however completly controls the body moving it like a puppet meaning the creature behind is not saying commands but is fully interacting with enemies or automatically interacts with enemies.

Thats my theory

[pallid flare]

I think that the infection makes them stronger, not the fact that the radiance is controlling them

it's a bit weird to explain

[orchid rune]

In code geass Lelouch geass gives abosulte orders but there s that one kid that can control people like a puppet

[coarse leaf]

Please elaborate

[pallid flare]

ok so

[warm bone]

#hk-lore time

[pallid flare]

... should we move?

[orchid rune]

Maybe

[pallid flare]

yeah let's move

[warm bone]

[storm wren]

I am tired of wating for any news. I know the developers are busy making the game but we've been without news for months

I love hollow knight and I know they are taking their time but they should update us more often

[nimble pebble]

It's not they should it's you think they should

[uneven orchid]

Yea well, that's just like, your opinion man

[tribal merlin]

also consider you'll pay them for SS in the future, not for news now

[storm wren]

k I just wanted to say it

[uneven orchid]

They'll update us when they feel there's a sufficient need to. I know that wait is frustrating but it's really best that they focus all their efforts and work on the game. As far as I'm concerned progress is more important than constant updates. We know they're working hard so the best we can do is be patient.

[pallid flare]

me want silksong >:(

[storm wren]

We all want silksong lul

[cunning geode]

just focus on other things

the game won’t come out any faster if you worry about it

[pallid flare]

wombat you dont get it

we need news, doing anything other than waiting is fruitless

[tribal merlin]

it's like with boiling milk - it'll never boil if you look at it.
you have to leave the room for it to actually boil over and make a mess

[cunning geode]

I don’t think that analogy really works here

[pallid flare]

its beautiful nonetheless

[tribal merlin]

well I was gonna make cheese with that milk , just be thankful I used it in this chat

[shy stirrup]

I mean tbf we get news more frequently than a lot of other upcoming games

[tribal merlin]

but for some it's never enough
they start complaining about "no news for 2 years" 2 weeks after we get news

so really what's the point in putting the work into giving out news

[storm wren]

well at least it wont be literally no news for 2 years

[cunning geode]

More news than BTSX Episode 3

[storm wren]

also for some, which i dont think its the majority

[shy stirrup]

Like breath of the wild 2 literally didnt get any news for 2 years. Ss is at least getting news 1-2 times a year

Which imo is enough

[warm bone]

prime 4

[shy stirrup]

At least we got confirmation of restarting development

Nintendo rarely ever just straight up says it

[analog pike]

is the tweet that leth sent gone from twitter

the one about team cherry ganes

[pallid flare]

dunno, check for yourself

[analog pike]

i cant find it

what is leths twitter?\

[shy stirrup]

Matthew griffin pretty sure

Or @griffinmatta

[warm bone]

https://twitter.com/griffinmatta/status/1427807882490224640

Matthew Griffin (@griffinmatta)

@TeamCherryGanes Hey, could we ask you stop impersonating Team Cherry? They're starting to have issues with confused and concerned fans, as a result of your Tweets.

They want to put all their energy into finishing Silksong right now.

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Twitter · Aug 18, 2021, 1:41 AM

[vale fox]

Hey, is silksong out already?

[warm bone]

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[serene chasm]

are you playin it?

[vale fox]

I wan to

Want*

[serene chasm]

You will know when its out. All HK fans have a sixth sense regards to SS coming out

[shy stirrup]

The day ss comes out i will become joker from the movie joker

[hollow sedge]

another day without silksong

[analog pike]

i saw hk announcments and jumped out of my seat, and then i clicked on it and a wave of depression hit me

[warm bone]

if its silksong, you'll get @ed

[analog pike]

yeah yeah yeah yeah eya= hlkghlghoarp iuthaglkugh89ru

so um

whats up guys

[pallid flare]

the sky

[shy stirrup]

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

[analog pike]

you got me so good

so um is there any chance that in the last two seconds when i stopped thinking about ss, it may have come out????

cause that would be great

[nimble pebble]

Ss news machine. Broke

[knotty sluice]

Is it out yet

[warm bone]

?sspsa

[thin zephyr]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong is in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[knotty sluice]

Ur point

[vivid belfry]

I mean that's the whole point

there is nothing to read into the text

[knotty sluice]

Ok

[earnest fox]

the games not done yet thats the only info that we got meaning that it'll prolly not get a 2021 release date. Nothing new pretty much

[knotty sluice]

I am Seth

[marsh ibex]

?

As in you’re RPing as the character seth from silksong?

cuz that’s against server rules

[earnest fox]

the knight guy?

[earnest fox]

hallow knight like hollow knight