sk-discussion

[cerulean sable]

jump then spam dash

[versed pollen]

Bhopping ain't in Silksong buddy

[green jungle]

yeah i thought that might be iti

[versed pollen]

Well there's also the jump hunter pogo thing that isn't too hard

[green jungle]

bunnies r in silksong, bunnies hop

[real leaf]

thats for fun movement but its v slow

[versed pollen]

Break off this guy's legs

[real leaf]

you mean another movement ok

[green jungle]

i don like hunter dhow :(

[dreamy locust]

just wave dash

[severe steeple]

there are no bunnies in silksong im afraid

[dreamy locust]

hornet killed them all 🥀

[green jungle]

i am deaf

[versed pollen]

That's fine

[heady iron]

this is why silksong failed

[green jungle]

*illiterate

[heady iron]

no cat girls or bunny girls

[versed pollen]

🙂‍↕️

[real leaf]

clawline

[severe steeple]

just like nine sols if it didnt have cat people

[green jungle]

tell me this is bot a bunny

[severe steeple]

bot a bunny

human

[green jungle]

"agile bunny of hallownest" 🥀

[hardy tangle]

hornet

[severe steeple]

does have bunny ears

[cerulean sable]

theres this other one that speed runners actually do

"jump pogo dash jump pogo dash, when you pogo you can cancel the hitstun with a dash"

https://youtu.be/h1Ok9XduhMs?t=936

[green jungle]

y do silksong speedruns have hk hud checklist

[cerulean sable]

this is a standard for a lot of speedrunners in general, not just HK

its supposed to show which sections are they lagging behind/getting better at

[green jungle]

but y is it the hk gear

[cerulean sable]

ahh

ok yeah its a carry over for an existing tool afaik?

and they didnt bother updating it because most HK high end speedrunners knows which skills are "interchangeable/analogous" to the ones in HK already

controlscheme wise, these guys would use a similar one from their HK runs

cloak is sprint, dnail is needolin, cdash is clawline, etc

[green jungle]

ohh

[green jungle]

also does the timer auto stop or do they do it

[cerulean sable]

its autostop i think

i dont know running myself

but afaik the timesplit is based on in game hooks maybe?

[neat remnant]

Split change is manually iirc

[cerulean sable]

ahhh

i am not aware of running so wasnt really sure if it is or not

[neat remnant]

Even im not sure tbh

Would take a lot of time to program auto split change tho

[green jungle]

ok

[unreal ice]

Last night i decided to finally start working on Great Taste Of Pharloom
Got the Stew and Nectar
Learnt that I need double jump for a bunch of them
Went to Mount Fay
And guess what

I finally completed Mount Fay

I was so proud of myself for completing it while sleep deprived at 2 am

[old compass]

tip: don't play silksong past 11 pm

[unreal ice]

I couldn't sleep till 3 am

[old compass]

tip: fix your sleep schedule

[unreal ice]

Somehow last night was the most i ever accomplished in the game

[unreal ice]

I usually sleep at 12 but yesterday i took an evening nap so i couldn't sleep later

[lusty stump]

Am I supposed to have more than 2 crests after act 1

[sharp slate]

in theory you can get 3 additional aka 4 total

[unreal ice]

You can go through the entire game with just Hunter right

[lusty stump]

Oof. Guess I’m not being thorough

And Hunter is the only one that can be upgraded right

[unreal ice]

Yes

[opaque sigil]

unfortunately yes

[lusty stump]

That’s so weird

To me it hints that it’s the most lore accurate crest, almost intended.

I know Team Cherry doesn’t do intent but

[severe steeple]

Phantom just jumped into me while binding 3 times in my steel soul run but warding bell genuinely saved my run

[orchid spruce]

Lorewise, that crest is the most true to Hornet's nature and Eva taps into that

[split lodge]

hunter being the starting crest doesn’t have a passive and I think it’s for the better that it’s only upgraded later rather than giving the player the fully evolved hunter crest at the beginning

[orchid spruce]

[split lodge]

Since juggling both the diagonal pogo and focus meter is harder

[lusty stump]

Am I sleeping on Hunter for bosses?

I only have Hunter and reaper rn

[split lodge]

For me I see it as hornet’s own move set evolving as the three lace fights also evolve lace’s moveset

[lusty stump]

What about meta tho. Is skillful Hunter crest use OP?

[thorn pier]

yeah

[split lodge]

If you can consistently be hitless it’d be the one crest where barbed bracelet is actually viable

[lusty stump]

This is my second run through. Remind me what that is?

[atomic sparrow]

barbed barcelet? yellow tool that gives 25% more needle dmg but also doubles dmg taken

[lusty stump]

Hey I’m in citadel with no double jump or grapple. Do I keep exploring or go find one of those powers? Feeling behind.

[atomic sparrow]

go get grapple

[split lodge]

Get clawline and faydown ASAP first

[lusty stump]

Where? I can Google but

[mental snow]

Okay. I'm gonna go ahead and have another round of goes at Double Last Judge.

This motherfucker is easier than Double Phantom, but damn she's still tough as shit.

[split lodge]

Get the white ward key from songclave and go to the underworks

[timid plinth]

you need clawline and faydown cloak to explore more, so just do that

[lusty stump]

Oh so I’m not behind. I haven’t been to songclave yet

[split lodge]

For the clawline, then pass through the slab to mount fay for double jump

[split lodge]

The key is free outside if you pick it up before ringing the bell

[lusty stump]

I’ll look around before ringing thanks!

[mental snow]

Btw I'd like to see you try and fight Double Last Judge, mate

Seein' as you laughing at me

[maiden galleon]

hi goys

sorry

guys

[split lodge]

Having done so many steel soul playthroughs LJ might be the one boss I could never cheese lmao

[lusty stump]

Not laughing cause it’s easy. Laughing at you for doing it in the first place

[mental snow]

Phase 1 is pretty damn easy but Phase 2 is when shit gets real

[mental snow]

It's because it's hard. And I like hard things.

Also making myself suffer because I guess I hate myself

[timid plinth]

i dont think thats good

[mental snow]

Yeah, not really

But hey, I've somewhat convinced myself my mental health is good

Is it really? Fuck if I know lmao

But I feel good

[lusty stump]

Just picturing overlapping fire rings lol

[maiden galleon]

Wish me luck guys, I’m fighting the Silk Mother in Steel Soul mode

[mental snow]

No yeah that's exactly it lmao
No evading that

[lusty stump]

Gl

[timid plinth]

good luck^^

[orchid spruce]

[lusty stump]

dd iirc

[maiden galleon]

thanks

[mental snow]

What does the "dd" mean

[timid plinth]

descending dark

[mental snow]

Nah man I ain't doin' no Knight mod

[rocky jolt]

https://x.com/i/status/527074205708189698

Mikeal NEON ® (@MikealNEON)

This digital circus has NO SHORTAGE of clowns...

X · Oct 28, 2014, 12:27 PM

[proud plume]

yall i just got purple quill

[mental snow]

...wait, you can get a purple one?

[lusty stump]

I’m just being funny

[mental snow]

There's an Act 3 Quill???

[timid plinth]

purple quill

[mental snow]

Fuck, man

[timid plinth]

i like the red one better

matches hornet

[proud plume]

redo the game with no quill and steal tormented trobbio one

[maiden galleon]

Let’s gooo, I already defeated the Silk Mother

I finally did it after a long time

[proud plume]

how much time exactly?

[rocky jolt]

https://tenor.com/kVVBd34HZb.gif Fourth Chorus

[mental snow]

Guys, don't stand in between 2 Last Judges as they enter phase 3

They will year you a-fucking-sunder

[proud plume]

noted

[lusty stump]

Guys, don’t anything 2 last judges

[timid plinth]

how wise

[proud plume]

ima note it

[sharp slate]

did you give up on phantom?

[maiden galleon]

[mental snow]

Dude, Phantom was the bane of my fucking existence

I am NOT doing her right now

Last Judge is objectively easier

[proud plume]

wait cant the two judges just die at opposite sides and just kill you?

[timid plinth]

does the double mod double the amount of the great conchflies

[sharp slate]

yea fair, the steam from phase 3 is fucking hell

[maiden galleon]

Thanks for all the support you gave me

[timid plinth]

yw

[mental snow]

You can run through them during their death animation

[proud plume]

but the blast??

[mental snow]

Not big enough

[proud plume]

ok

[sharp slate]

most likely two judges will die close to another as well since they chase you down

[timid plinth]

you can probably just kill one last judge first and let her blow up

[sharp slate]

im glad to see someone else doing double enemies, such a fun mod

[proud plume]

i would like to mod but i have xbox vertion

[tired depot]

I have beaten Voltwyrm without silk soar

[timid plinth]

the only mod that i have on is the godhome mod

[mental snow]

FUCK
NO
NO
BITCH
FUCK

THE RING FUCKING GRAZED ME

[sharp slate]

rip lol

[mental snow]

I WAS THERE
I ALMOST WON

Progress made. We push on.

[proud plume]

use magma bell???

[mental snow]

What do you think I've been using

[lusty stump]

We continue

[sharp slate]

did you go through process of getting dice?

i assume you did

[timid plinth]

you got this^^

[sharp slate]

i was debating on it because i hate gambling minigame

[mental snow]

Of course

It's actually saved me a number of times

[mental snow]

I mean the strat is easy

[sharp slate]

fair i assume so

[lusty stump]

I couldn’t make it work so I’m waiting til he dies

[sharp slate]

ik just tedious though

[mental snow]

Fair honestly

[mental snow]

Wait like 5 seconds, then a fraction of a second later, throw the dice

[lusty stump]

What am I missing?

[proud plume]

hey have you gotten all upgrates?

[mental snow]

I could be way more specific if you want

[lusty stump]

I tried 5 seconds and I tried 14 shakes and I tried waiting for the flash

[mental snow]

In like 4 save files yeah

[sharp slate]

the tragic part about last judge as well you can only get 6 3/4 masks before last judge

[proud plume]

ok

[lusty stump]

Yeah I actually want to see if I can do it

How are you supposed to do it without the cheese tho

[proud plume]

and in the double enemys?

[mental snow]

Okay so, Hornet shakes the dice and each shake, the pitch increases. Once the pitch increases 5 times, at the end of the fifth shake, throw the dice.

Each shake has a distinct sequence of clacks (the noises the dice make). Keep that pattern in mind, wait for the fifth, then throw at the end of it.

[mental snow]

About uhhhhh....

[proud plume]

https://scripterswar.com/silksong/map

[mental snow]

Just about everything, bar Plasmium.

Which I should probably get, now I think about it....

[slim thorn]

there is also a small visual cue

[sharp slate]

its good for some sections, though i prefer curveclaw for judge

[mental snow]

I was gonna say the visual cue is a bit too brief to react to, but then again, the time window is forgiving

[lusty stump]

I’ll do this later. I’m sorta stuck in citadel til I find a Bellway

[timid plinth]

hornet grunts a little when you throw the dice at the perfect time

[mental snow]

Nah that's fair, it's a huge ass area

[ornate perch]

There’s only one in the whole citadel btw

Well 2 if you count that one sucky area

[sharp slate]

you inspired me to do another doubles enemy run its so fun, gonna try to speedrun it

[mental snow]

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

THEY WERE NOT THIS AGGRESSIVE BEFORE

What, did they just suddenly get smart and decide to kick my ass now that I'm getting better?

[sharp slate]

they were like you got good NOPE

[mental snow]

I might just enable debug so I don't need to make this runback every time

[sick vector]

Does anybody think that miremites are just so adorable??

[sharp slate]

same

save states are very nice

[mental snow]

They just lock the absolute fuck in, what is this

I just pulled off the sickest dodge of my life and then died 5 seconds after

[slim thorn]

you cant say that and then not show it

do you got steam recording on for easy clips?

[mental snow]

I mean I launch the game from Cogfly, so unfortunately not

[sharp slate]

can you get curveclaw without dash in theory?

i guess you need drifters nvm

[mental snow]

I think I've tried that, and the answer is no

[slim thorn]

isnt there an option for it to launch as if from steam?

[mental snow]

Actually what's the key shortcut to save a recording

[slim thorn]

idk, i have it to f10 but idk if that is default

for the last 30 seconds

[mental snow]

Guess I'll open my settings

[slim thorn]

but for longer or shorter ones i just go to the bar and trim it as desired

[mental snow]

Oh I forgot I have Always Poshanka installed

[sharp slate]

poshanka

[mental snow]

Poshanka

...why tf are there two debug mods now

I installed it and then it duplicated

Why are there two of them

Anyway

Let's see about setting up that Steam hotkey

[mental snow]

It says "The last 120 minutes" for me

Oh nvm

I didn't read the hotkey options

[slim thorn]

that is the whole recording
i have mine set to like 20 minutes and low quality cuz i dont have so much spare space

30 seconds i meant for quick clip key

like if im midgame and cant pause i hit that and then check it later
knowing i wont lose it cuz i played hours more and the recording started erasing it

[mental snow]

Had to restart Steam so it puts clips in my videos folder

[mental snow]

Yeah I know how the quick clips work

[slim thorn]

try not to put way too much time on the auto record unless you got the space

[mental snow]

I gotcha

So....

Is "Start/Stop saving a clip" just basically "save the last (x amount of time) minutes"?

Or is that a "start recording" and "stop recording" function?

[slim thorn]

is that on manual recording or what

let me check

[mental snow]

Record in background

[slim thorn]

oh i see, i was scrolling way too much

i guess that is like some manual recording of clips? but you probaby have to stop it manually i guess

idk how different it would be from manual recording

[slim thorn]

yeah i think that is the one i use, for the last 20 minutes

[mental snow]

Did a bit of research, yeah the "start/stop saving a clip" hotkey is a manual start & stop record function

Oh

Nevermind, it's just the "save clip" option if it's in the background

Wish it was a bit more fuckin specific

Anyway that's good to know

Hm

Not seeing a launch from Steam option in Cogfly

[slim thorn]

its like the 4th option after the first 3 big ones right?

[mental snow]

I only see 3 of them?

Oh wait

My dumbass didn't enable "launch with steam"

When I first started using Cogfly

...so if I just launch it now, it should let me do Steam stuff

[slim thorn]

got it in spanish but that is what i use

[mental snow]

Okay it launches with Steam

[slim thorn]

background recording for 20 mins and then f10 for easy clips

[mental snow]

Also I already configured all that

And now, I can clip stuff

Lesgo

Oh God, debug tanked the loading time lmao

[slim thorn]

as long as it isnt something that somehow lasts more than what you put your max to

[mental snow]

...I'm noticing a considerable drop in framerate.

I'll uninstall debug and its dependencies and see how much that helps.

I just heard a Steam achievement before I closed the game

Wow, Debug just had dependencies on top of dependencies

Alright, take 2

Gonna suck without savestates but at least it'll be playable

...."Recording has been stopped after encountering an error" are you fucking kidding me

It just goes back to manual recording

[slim thorn]

try to reset it by hitting disabled and then the middle option again

[maiden galleon]

its is spanish

[slim thorn]

i guess mods have an higher chance of bugging out the recording?
it also sometimes happens when you click the bar to see what has been recorded and doesnt let you see itagain until you reset it

[slim thorn]

top option of those 3

[mental snow]

See what's funny is that it worked fine with the debug mod

Then it just doesn't work when I uninstall all that

Same error.

For fuck's sake, what the hell happened

Gonna research it

[slim thorn]

idk but steam records do bug kinda frequently
is it still a beta feature?

takes a while getting used to deal with it's troubles
and remembering to switch recordings if you are on more than a game at once

[violet ether]

What's the design philosophy in barring the lv 2 Druid's Eyes to as late as the double jump (or at early as performing Beast's Needle art)? A tool that recovers a tiny amount of tempo after getting damaged--less Soul/Silk than Grubsong and requiring 2 hits to completely trigger?

[fallow sorrel]

Cuz

[mental snow]

Nah it's not beta anymore. I did a few things to try and fix it, so hopefully it's good now. Take 3.

[slim thorn]

goes from "use this if you got no other blue tools" to "somewhat decent enough as long as you dont compare it much to the better blue tools"

[mental snow]

Okay... so far so good

No error message so far

Nope spoke too soon

Ffs dude

[slim thorn]

on the recording or is the game not working?

[mental snow]

Recording

Keeps encountering an "error" and stops

[slim thorn]

did you reset it ingame and still doesnt work?

[mental snow]

What do you mean in game? Like in the Steam overlay?

[slim thorn]

yes. shift + tab i think it is?

[mental snow]

I'll try it

[slim thorn]

and in the config options

just hit disable and enable it again

[mental snow]

That seems to have worked

Thank you, lol

[dreamy nest]

I wish this game would inform us on specific choices we make

Like the fact that the ruined tool becomes a different weapon depending on which NPC repairs it

I immediately took it to forge daughter because the description said a master craftsman could repair it

[slim thorn]

maybe it never fixes the bug even if you close the game and that is why it persisted? i doubt it was bugging on game start every single time
but i guess that may happen with some mods

[dreamy nest]

Now sifting through the wiki for silkshot, I seem to have got an inferior version with no way of obtaining the other

[slim thorn]

idk that kinda has something special for discovering the differences on replays

altough finding that room on mtfay without help may not be too common

[cerulean sable]

fORUMS SHOuld be 40% longer

[mental snow]

Uh oh

Nevermind

I thought I was glitched because Hornet wouldn't get out of the map menu

Turns out shift+tab locks Hornet in the map

Because it goes into the Steam overlay in the middle of holding a button

[slim thorn]

never seen that cuz i have map to Q

[mental snow]

Pressing tab fixes it

[slim thorn]

sounds funny

but i doubt there is some funnier glitch possibilities with it

[mental snow]

So uh....

Yeah Steam recording is now fucking up

Ingame resets are no longer working

Could be the fact I saved two 1-minute clips consecutively by mistake

[slim thorn]

huh

[hardy tangle]

#sk-lore decomposing rn

[mental snow]

I'll reset

But after I send the clip

[slim thorn]

give it a second or three after pressing disable? maybe. not sure

[mental snow]

....okay I'm gonna have to dumb down the quality because the clipping framerate is like 2 fps

The clip I just hit is not watchable

[slim thorn]

i guess you should be accounting for your pc power

[mental snow]

Man I wish I could send that

Even though I died for it, that clip went dumb

[green jungle]

bro y is the journal sorted soo badly

[mental snow]

That's what I'm sayin

[green jungle]

7 years for what?

underdeveloped game

[mental snow]

Literally unplayable

[green jungle]

literally

[mental snow]

Oh btw it would appear that lowering the quality helped with preventing the error from immediately occurring

Spoke too FUCKING soon

Ffs Steam

Y'know what fuck it
I'll just record manually, fuck it

[slim thorn]

well try out stuff until you get something that works i guess

[mental snow]

I'll just record manually

Nope, even that stops from whatever fucking "error" it's encountering

Man this is more trouble than it's worth

[faint crypt]

I am doing a stealsoul run right now and I am in act 3 at 83% but I havent bought stuff from the merchant in Pilgrems Rest. How do I get ghis stuff now, where he is gone

[mental snow]

Grindle took her stuff

Now you have to pay extra for it

(I'm being serious)

[faint crypt]

Grindle doesnt have it

[mental snow]

....the FUCK you mean he doesn't have it??

[faint crypt]

I just looked

he doesnt have the thing that makes you imune against knockback

[mental snow]

Oh

[violet ether]

The three Silkshots are so unfortunately unbalanced.

[mental snow]

Sorry I got confused, I thought you meant Bone Bottom

Uhh it's... somewhere in Far Fields. Uh....

[violet ether]

In my first save file, I got Forge Daughter's Silkshot.

[mental snow]

Search around, you should find the items lying around Far Fields. I could not tell you where.

[faint crypt]

ok, thank you

[mental snow]

No problem

[lusty stump]

He’s already dead 🙁

[mental snow]

Well you shouldn't have entered Act 2

He uh
He dies

And you didn't show up to his funeral.

[lusty stump]

I’d already given up on gambling

[mental snow]

Well you can try again next playthrough

[lusty stump]

Idk if I’ll play it again.

[violet ether]

One save file, I got so incredibly bored at gambling, I almost fell alseep.

I don't know how compulsive gamblers do it, man.

[mental snow]

YES
YES
YES FUCK YES

OH MY GOD ID DI IT NDIEJEJS

I FUCKING BEAT DOUBLE LAST JUDGE FOR FUCK'S SAKE YESSSS

@sharp slate I FUCKING DID IT

FINALLY

I'M FREE FROM THIS ACT 1 HELL

(And now onto get ravaged by Act 2)

[sharp slate]

Eyo lets fucking go

Tbh act 2 is pretty chill imo... well... depends how fast you gun it for trobbio

[mental snow]

Oh please for fuck's sake, let me get Clawline

[sharp slate]

cogwork dancers is insanely fun imo

[mental snow]

. . . I need to make a pit stop for Rosaries.

Apparently I forgot I lost them at some point.

I have the infinite Rosaries mod. I just need to collect 1 and I'll be set.

[lusty stump]

There can only be one last judge if you think about it

[mental snow]

One must imagine the Last Judge happy

[lusty stump]

Why must they be happy

[severe steeple]

architect crest cheese unlocked. Steel soul run is now a secured victory

[mental snow]

I swear, as soon as the ending drew near, I felt like I could see the fucking code within the game

[lusty stump]

Matrix moment

[mental snow]

I felt like I planned every single action I made hours ahead of time, there was nothing I didn't see

I wanted nothing more than those fuckers DEAD

Anyway, Citadel time

[teal ridge]

Hi

[lusty stump]

Finding the pale oil was awful

[mental snow]

Hello
I just escaped a hell of my own making with mods

[teal ridge]

Why dont you make one yourself

[teal ridge]

Congrats!

[mental snow]

Thank you lol

[lusty stump]

How

[teal ridge]

Produce it. Oil is often made in living things body

[lusty stump]

P sure the game doesn’t work that way

[mental snow]

I think it's funny that if you enter the elevator with 2 masks, that entire ass elevator collapsing on you technically deals just 1 mask of damage

[lusty stump]

The whole damage mechanic makes no sense tbh

[pure nest]

random question quickly but have there been like any updates on sea of sorrow?

[lusty stump]

I bumped into massive boss. Same damage as Last Judge artillery

Like wtf

[mental snow]

Honestly, we should be questioning the durability of Hornet's shell

[unreal ice]

Bro: I don't hate myself
Bro's favourite area:

[mental snow]

How does a massive flea running into her deal as much as Last Judge hurling a fucking metric ton of citadel steel at her

[unreal ice]

Because it's huge
Duh

[pure nest]

its like shes built like a stickbug lmao

[mental snow]

The music tho
We got that Ender Lilies music

[unreal ice]

FUCK Bilewater

[mental snow]

Don't do that
You'll get at least 3 diseases

[unreal ice]

.

[pure nest]

:0

[mental snow]

You should always expect the sex joke

[orchid spruce]

omg, ender lilies fan in the wild!!!

[mental snow]

Yoooo

[orchid spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMRK2A6bXrs

[full rune]

can we not glorify nazis tho @weak trench

[maiden galleon]

Hi again

Oioioi

[weak trench]

Ohh i got some visitors

[maiden galleon]

[full rune]

we dont allow that on our server

[maiden galleon]

Xd

[weak trench]

What?

[full rune]

we dont allow people to have hate imagery on the server

[mental snow]

....Withered Foxy jumpscared me.

The 1 in 10,000 happened for the third time this playthrough.

I'm uninstalling that now.

[maiden galleon]

.

[still osprey]

🔥

[maiden galleon]

.

[old compass]

hate what now

[toxic vigil]

Hello

[mental snow]

If you finish one wave of enemies in an arena off with double enemies on, it's really awkward because the music stops playing as you kill the 2nd wave of enemies.

Like if you just accidentally leave one enemy from the 2nd wave alive and kill the first wave, you're just forced to kill the arena all again, just without any music

[candid kayak]

*awkward silence*

[mental snow]

I'm being fucking jumped in the Citadel, holy shit

[weak trench]

Ever Played or Heard of Blasphemous?

[old compass]

❌

[mental snow]

Nope

[dapper solar]

shaw

[weak trench]

People relate and suggest it to the players who have the ability to play hollow knight and silksong

[dapper solar]

im probably going to replay silksong after i beat hollow knight again

[mental snow]

Does it cost money

Because the job market has not been kind

[weak trench]

Everything is paid in this world of internet rn🥀

[weak trench]

But privacy is a gud option

[dreamy locust]

everything is free if you yarr

[weak trench]

If u feel just to try it yk

[mental snow]

Fucking collective braincell moment

[weak trench]

Blasphemous has really pixelated graphics not like hk or ss but the story it has, won peoples hearts

[silk monolith]

you wouldnt download a car

[weak trench]

https://tenor.com/view/blasphemy-blasphemous-game-bleeding-knight-video-game-gif-26085824

Its our main protagonist of the game

[mental snow]

Alright, I gotta fight Double Cogwork Dancers now.

[silk monolith]

light work

[mental snow]

Yes I would and I'd do it in a heartbeat

[silk monolith]

same lmao

[mental snow]

Just fuckin export an entire ass truck

[silk monolith]

naurr js a sedan will do

older cars tho ion want a screen inside my car

[mental snow]

Anyway lemme uninstall the 1 in 10,000 chance for Withered Foxy jumpscare and now I am at peace

[silk monolith]

theres a withered foxy jumpscare mod for skong?

[orchid spruce]

Blasphemous 1's gameplay was so ass, so I dropped Blasphemous 2's gameplay was really good but has nothing memorable

[mental snow]

(The jumpscares got progressively worse for me. The first one was a light scare that made me laugh. The 2nd one made me fuckin jump back but still laugh. The 3rd and last one genuinely scared me.)

[mental snow]

Yeah, literally just "1 in 10000 Chance for Withered Foxy jumpscare"

[silk monolith]

lmao amazing

js increase the odds so you're desensitised

[mental snow]

There's also a mod that lets you always have the Poshanka taunt

[orchid spruce]

A lot of popular games have that

It's a meme atp

[mental snow]

Man when I go back to normal Skong for Sea of Sorrows, I'm gonna hate not having infinite Rosaries

[orchid spruce]

I think it's a proof of sanity to use the double rosaries/shards mod by default

You're not missing out on anything by grinding rosaries for one hour

[mental snow]

I play primarily on PS4

My laptop is for mods

[orchid spruce]

How unfortunate

[mental snow]

Yeah...
My laptop is on the low end and it's a hassle in general

Uhhhhhhhhhh

Double Cogwork Dancers did their battle cry without exiting their stations

[orchid spruce]

[mental snow]

Well they decided to spawn in

So

[maiden galleon]

Question

[mental snow]

Answer

[maiden galleon]

How do I access the locked voice channels?

[mental snow]

You gotta keep talking in the server. At a certain message count, you'll be able to voice chat

[maiden galleon]

Ok

[mental snow]

Okay wow, Double Cogwork Dancers is actually kinda crazy

[maiden galleon]

Ok thanks

[mental snow]

They just hit me with the elegant ass combination attack

Fuck, they unsync if they do combination attacks

[maiden galleon]

What is your favorite Hollow Knight boss?

[mental snow]

HK 1 or Silksong?

[maiden galleon]

Silksong

And hk

[mental snow]

For HK, Pure Vessel all the way.

For Silksong, it's between First Sinner, Seth and Karmelita honestly.

[maiden galleon]

Oh 👍

[mental snow]

Dude these lines in Double Cogwork Dancers are twisting my brain

[urban swan]

I wish crust king khan was more challenging

[orchid spruce]

Easier than Moss Mother

[urban swan]

Need more of coral tower area in dlc

[mental snow]

Definitely. I saw a mod called Coral King Khann or something that gave his boss fight a lot of good shit

[maiden galleon]

My favorite Hollow Knight Silksong bosses are the Mechanical Dancers and The Last Judge.

[orchid spruce]

My memories say Karmelita is the best but last time I touch Silksong fr was 6 months ago

For HK, it's Sisters of Battle

[urban swan]

Favourite boss in silksong is prolly gurr or watcher of the edge

[orchid spruce]

But I haven't mastered SOB nor PV so can't tell

[urban swan]

Simply for the designs and aesthetic

[orchid spruce]

Those are certainly uncommon picks

[maiden galleon]

Well, I have to go now guys, bye!

[orchid spruce]

byebye

[urban swan]

I don’t rank bosses off of difficulty cus if you play the game long enough everything is easy

[wind gate]

Someone definitely made a modified cogwork dancers to include green prince and the other thing

[urban swan]

I rank off the location how to get to them and overall aesthetic of the fight

[orchid spruce]

Well, I kind of rank them based on boss quality

[urban swan]

I mean that’s also very opinion based

Some people think groal is a good gauntlet for others it’s just tedious and not fun

[placid citrus]

ye some1 def did it with architect

[placid citrus]

groal is PEAK

[urban swan]

I like him aswell

I think groal would have a much better reputation if not for the run back

[orchid spruce]

Well, there's always subjectivity but dismissing any useful degree of objectivity would be misguided

[placid citrus]

the enjoyment of the whole game is subjective

[urban swan]

In HK my faocurite fights were Mantis lord and oro mato

[orchid spruce]

Everything is fundamentally subjective

Morals are subjective but we pretend they are objective because such pretense is useful

[urban swan]

Okay this is getting very outta topic

Point is you won’t find a vibe like watcher of the edge anywhere else in the game

[placid citrus]

ye exactly so there ain't any degree of objectivity

[placid citrus]

that's just #sk-discussion always

[orchid spruce]

pretentious objectivity* would clarify better

[silk monolith]

morals should be objective highkey

[orchid spruce]

and there will arise a degree of objectivity when we're operating within a construct

[placid citrus]

they can't be tho

[silk monolith]

my morals are peak everyone should follow me

[placid citrus]

bro figured out morals

[urban swan]

Should we

[mental snow]

Double Cogwork Dancers have been doubly defeated.

[placid citrus]

gg

[mental snow]

And yes
I almost died to the phase where he's lonely.
The nerves almost got to me.

[orchid spruce]

double the homophobia and pass it to Hornet

[placid citrus]

is that last phase fully scripted? like did both move at the same time?

[mental snow]

Alright chat, let's see if I remember how to get to Whispering Vaults

[mental snow]

No, they moved in different directions

[urban swan]

For pantheon dancers they should bring back the dead lover and speed the whole fight up

[placid citrus]

IF we get the same pantheons from hk

[mental snow]

We're obviously getting some sort of boss rush mode.

[urban swan]

We’re definitely getting smth like a panth as the last update

[mental snow]

Perhaps not Pantheons, but a boss rush all the same.

[placid citrus]

ye but we don't know if it'll be the same

[median fractal]

Its pretty much confirmed lol

They aknowledged our want for one on an interview

[mental snow]

Obviously it won't be the same

[kind tide]

Erm, FELLAS?

[median fractal]

They know we want it and they will do it

[kind tide]

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-cute-dance-hollow-knight-silksong-gif-2885488124335295136

[orchid spruce]

I love to pretend I know what I'm talking about

[kind tide]

shaw

[kind tide]

[urban swan]

Would be cool to see a shop keeper in silksong to be an panth exclusive fight

[orchid spruce]

Boss rush is guaranteed sort of

[median fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-the-knight-roaring-knight-knight-black-knife-gif-8688560492526146057

[placid citrus]

absolute mort would be PEAK

[median fractal]

I wnana see the seamstress lol

[kind tide]

The only thing guaranteed is the mental unwellness of users in this discord channel

Prove me wrong

[orchid spruce]

None of the shopkeepers really matter though lmao

Unlike goatsly

[placid citrus]

y u attacking my goat grindle like that

[median fractal]

Absolute grindle

[orchid spruce]

demon of greed will go so hard

[urban swan]

Grindle swarm fight

Just 100 grindles

[sage umbra]

what is that lmao

[placid citrus]

we get the eternal ordeal but it's just grindle

[tired depot]

I do not like how Granny Silk gives me flashbacks of Radiance....

[old compass]

if grindle appears in godhome I will-

actually idk what I will do...

[placid citrus]

y

[median fractal]

Fakeout because he gets killed by a mawlek in the new dlc

[orchid spruce]

spam refund request on silksong until steam blocks you

[urban swan]

New finale fight will be “Silk Zote”

[placid citrus]

we should def get an eternal ordeal of grindle

[tired depot]

A few months ago it took me a WEEK to beat Radiance when I was playing Hollow Knight

Granny Silk is WAY easier than Radiance

[placid citrus]

tru

[median fractal]

yeah

GMS is one of the easier bosses in the game imo

[placid citrus]

gms is just hype and aura

[median fractal]

Fourth Chorus took me longer dude

[median fractal]

I mean

Its very good at that

[placid citrus]

ye fr

the ost goes hard too

[median fractal]

The boss spawn is one of the sickest in either game change my damn mind lmao

And yeah the ost is fire

[placid citrus]

nah thk was better

[median fractal]

I love how it mirrors Radiance too

[median fractal]

Honestly? Disagree imo

THK has the best presentation for the entire fight but like

I prefer the way GMS starts

[tired depot]

Now, I am having a bit of a hard time with Granny Silk since this is the first few tries I had with her but in those few tries I managed to get to second phase

I was NOT able to be even CLOSE to second phase for Radiance

[median fractal]

The thing is with Radiance is also that its runback is 3 phases of THK...

[tired depot]

Yes

[placid citrus]

freeing this dude that was hyped up throughout the whole game was cinema imo, i'm not saying fighting gms for the first time wasn't as hype just that i think thk was a bit better

[tired depot]

I did not like how I had to fight THK over and over again just to die to Radiance

[median fractal]

Oh I agree that it was cinema I just personally prefer GMS

[tired depot]

I legit had a stroke of luck of somehow beating Radiance

I WAS ON ONE MASK LEFT AND SOMEHOW BEAT HER

[placid citrus]

i look at it more like thk is a prelude phase to radiance

[median fractal]

I think "boss runbacks" that have you kill a boss to get to the real boss is the worst form of runback

Iirc Radiance at least heals you?

[placid citrus]

ye

[tired depot]

-# before she starts doing the most random ass things that gets you killed in a minute

[median fractal]

ER final boss is heavily ruined by that imo

I'd rather have a harder boss than have to fight a different boss to get to it

[placid citrus]

no both phases r peak (radagon AND elden beast)

imo

[placid citrus]

it can get a bit annoying with like sister friede for example

from ds3

[median fractal]

I mean

Sister Friede is several phases of the same fight

Which

I know is basically the same thing but like

[placid citrus]

fighting ariandel and the first phase each time gets annoying

[median fractal]

Ariandel is the part thats annoying yeah

[tired depot]

What tools are good against Granny Silk?

[placid citrus]

u mean red tools or others?

[tired depot]

Red

[placid citrus]

flintslate and flea brew are always good to have if u like to hit stuff with needle

other than that stuff like pimpillos and voltvessels are good for a ton of dmg

[tired depot]

Im using those rn

And cogflys

What form of Voltvessels?

[gaunt quest]

Is there any good modded bosses in silksong yet

[placid citrus]

the balls are good if u make them both hit but if you don't wanna do that hte pillar is totally ok

[tired depot]

I am using the bola form

[placid citrus]

there's that one lost first sinner boss that released back in september

[gaunt quest]

I'll try that out thx

[tired depot]

I'm using Architect crest

[placid citrus]

those r the balls right? ye if u make em both hit they do more dmg than the pillar thing

[tired depot]

Yea the bola form is the ball form

[placid citrus]

i don't remember the names i just know the dmg

[tired depot]

Ok

I was gonna switch them back to the spear form but decided to keep it at bola

[placid citrus]

when the spear form is in the ground u can hit it with needle to redirect the beam

u can also hit the balls to move them around

[tired depot]

Ik

If that doesn't work, I can use a different crest and use volt filament

[placid citrus]

volt filament my beloved

[tired depot]

What silk skills are good with it?

[unreal ice]

Finally killed Savage Beastfly 2
Curveclaw and Cogfly i love you

[tired depot]

Cuz I have cross stitch, thread storm, and SilkSpear

[placid citrus]

basically any silkskill is good with volt filament but i use threadstorm and spear

[tired depot]

I hate Beastfly..

[tired depot]

Ok

[placid citrus]

gg

[tired depot]

The real team player is Pollip Pouch

[placid citrus]

pollip pouch is overrated

[tired depot]

What.

[placid citrus]

bad dmg

[unreal ice]

Pollip Pouch does contribute, but it's not as much as it seems

[tired depot]

The synergy tho

[unreal ice]

But it was just enough to kill SBF

[placid citrus]

ye imo not worth the blue slot

[tired depot]

I use it because it has been carrying me through bosses

[placid citrus]

it's fine if u like it

[tired depot]

But the damage modifier. Tools and needles kinda get screwed over by the damage modifier, but Pollip Pouch helps to remedy that lost damage thanks to the damage modifier

[placid citrus]

yes pollip pouch adds dmg and it's good if u have like no other blue tools to equip but there's a lot of better options if u want more dmg

[tired depot]

I just love spamming cogflys tbh.

[placid citrus]

valid

[tired depot]

Where do I get my last pouch capacity?

[placid citrus]

hm did u get the one from loddie

[tired depot]

The guy from the....what was it called again? The pin shooter?

Wait no..

Uhh that......flea?

[placid citrus]

the guy in the marrow where u find grindle in the jail

[tired depot]

Nope

[soft belfry]

Ladybug no

[placid citrus]

he gives u a pouch capacity upgrade

[placid citrus]

i think so

[urban swan]

That reminds me how come loddie is the only one of its kind in the kingdom

[soft belfry]

Isn't there 2

[urban swan]

Where’s the 2nd

[soft belfry]

The target and the guy taking ur money

[orchid spruce]

There are several

[urban swan]

I don’t recall there being several

[soft belfry]

Is the sprintmaster also with one don't rmb

[orchid spruce]

You can encounter some of them in one of the Flea spots and in Bonebottom in Act 3

[tired depot]

I BEATEN GRANNY SILK

TOOK ME LIKE 10-15 TRIES BUT I DID IT

[soft belfry]

No one tell them

[tired depot]

Lost lace....

[placid citrus]

same reason we only see only 1 of cornifer's species in hallownest

[soft belfry]

No not that

||cursed ending||

[tired depot]

I'm locked out of that ending for my savefile

[placid citrus]

cursed ending ain't that hard IMO

[placid citrus]

did u already get rid of the child?

[soft belfry]

They did struggle on gms default

[placid citrus]

ye tru ig lol

[tired depot]

First playthrough of the game btw

[urban swan]

There’s a guy similar to him at the graveyard tho

[tired depot]

Yes. A few hours ago

[soft belfry]

Iirc took me 6 but I was overgeared

[placid citrus]

ah then ye u locked out fr

[soft belfry]

Could dupe the file and rollback

[tired depot]

Nope. Already too late.

[placid citrus]

i mean they could always just do another playthrough

[cerulean sable]

Seanof Sorrow pls be tomorrow

But it wont, cuz itll be late 2026

[placid citrus]

getting to gms doesn't take that long

[placid citrus]

no they announced it tmr already

[tired depot]

Oh wait I still have the curse auto save

Whoops I didn't know

[soft belfry]

That's what I meant

[tired depot]

Not gonna go back tho.

[soft belfry]

In vanilla can make a backup of the save file

But up to you

[urban swan]

It’s not coming Cus I ate it sorry bro

[cerulean sable]

That doesnt mean its gonna be released mid this year

Itll be late 2026 with possible early 2027

[cerulean sable]

Throw it out you bastRd WTF

[tired depot]

Anyways how do I get to act 3

[soft belfry]

Do more content

Unless you want like the exact criteria cos it's technically a spoiler

[urban swan]

Well for instance you gotta fight groal

Idk if you’ve done that yet

[tired depot]

Haven't

[soft belfry]

Also finding fleas

[urban swan]

Shakras mentor quest through purified ducts

Maiden soul and hermit soul

And then at the end you gotta give sherma a forehead kiss and a handshake

[placid citrus]

there's a lot of reqs, ik them if u wanna hear em

[silk monolith]

July trust

they definitely probably worked on it a little bit in the 7 years

[urban swan]

6 years of drawing grindle and 1 year of developing the game

[silk monolith]

lmao I hate grindle

[cerulean sable]

They say Pharloom is a pot of gold...

And Grindle gon crash when nobody's home...

[wind mulch]

if karakans and weavers all got along

[placid citrus]

they found a whole cutscene back in the release patch from september

that could very well be cut content but it's still plausible they just forgot to remove that before releasing the game

[silk monolith]

lmao yeah

great cutscene too I like it

[placid citrus]

like the mouse in the diving bell cutscne lol

[silk monolith]

they shouldve kept that lol

[placid citrus]

ye that was so funny when i saw it

hornet was tryna aurafarm but ari gibson's mouse said nah

[cerulean sable]

Ive seen a pale shelled vessel with their shade blown out...
At the same [redacted] kiosk where Milli hang out
Now this is not a cylindrical recording stating that she stole it...
But ever since that day, i was looking at her different

Ong i dont think we will have the same diving shit

For all we know its cut content not necessarily stuff they will reintrgrate/they didnt have enough time to incorpare

[placid citrus]

seems very likely the submarine is gonna be the dlc's fast travel

[cerulean sable]

Then again Pharloom Bay may likely be unfinished and they just got it out b4 release

[placid citrus]

we still don't know if it's pharloom bay we're getting or a completely new water themed place

[orchid spruce]

They were only 80% done but a glimpse into r/Silksong convinced them to release it

[cerulean sable]

I genuinley do think they kinda did cuz the dam was near bursting

[placid citrus]

what if they were only 20% done and we'll get the rest of the game in 14 years

[orchid spruce]

That's the good ending

[cerulean sable]

And if the game didnt release by now it wouldve like be in 2027 or 28 together with Pharloom bay in it

[placid citrus]

well they did say that they could work on silksong for a few more years but said they stopped themselves cuz they wanted ppl to finally play the game

[cerulean sable]

Ye

I think this is the best decision cuz they can also adjust to feedback

[placid citrus]

if they remained silent they could've also extended that time until they like completely ran out of ideas

[cerulean sable]

Ye

[orchid spruce]

That's if they even go online and look at feedbacks

[placid citrus]

well they def do

[cerulean sable]

I mean given the recent patches, they do to an extent

Even the multibinder maggot buff was done cuz of community feedback

[orchid spruce]

And outside of #sk-discussion, there's no space for good silksong criticism to even listen to

[cobalt pilot]

What seems to be the problem

[lavish apex]

i've seen a lot of youtube critiques

[orchid spruce]

Poor fellas

Comments must've been something

[placid citrus]

there is tho, they receive a lot of bug reports on their bug tracker and i heard some playtesters notify them if there are a lot of ppl saying smth should be diff

[cerulean sable]

Simo also gets direct feedback from sr runners

[lavish apex]

i like this one https://youtu.be/kcOfvQSU9wU?si=7rpdu7a2-rfg0Jq-

[cerulean sable]

Which he relays to TC

[placid citrus]

yeee

like if ppl complain tc will def see it

[orchid spruce]

I don't want watch those because the thought of them being harassed for having criticisms pains me

Let me have a glimpse at the comments for one sec

[placid citrus]

i don't rlly watch them cuz i genuinely feel like all of the silksong "reviews" are ragebait

[orchid spruce]

Oh, hey, the comments are normal

[cerulean sable]

Tho tbh outside of some pokes here there the general populace is more against the difficulty spots

[orchid spruce]

You're the problem I'm talking about

Those three videos ruined this fandom forever

[placid citrus]

wym

[cerulean sable]

And tbh engaging with criticisms you also have people who ofc will defend the game and nothing abnormal about it

[silk monolith]

I dont watch a single game review

unless its jacob geller idk if you can call him a review channel

[orchid spruce]

I watch the Metroidvania Guru guy to check out metroidvanias

[old compass]

nothing against fireborn but his way of talking is weirdly offputing

[silk monolith]

jacob geller I hardly know her

[placid citrus]

i watch them then regret watching them

[orchid spruce]

I don't have anything against fireborn, I don't know him

But those three videos really harmed this fandom

And there's another 1M views one

[placid citrus]

y

[old compass]

I haven't watched those vids because of my comment on his voice, so how come?

[cerulean sable]

I think its an overestimation to think most of the fandom vitriol came from those 3 videos

[orchid spruce]

It's more like amplification on an existing problem because HK's audience is pretty young

[placid citrus]

fireborn is like part of the sr community i don't think many hk fans watch him cuz sr is niche

[orchid spruce]

And young children are vicious when someone criticizes something they like

[harsh yarrow]

what seems to have happened is in like, late 2024 they decided that they wanted to take a bit more time on the bay- theres a few sketches on the ACMI maps that shows them working on a far larger seeeming Bay

[orchid spruce]

Making criticisms look silly and stupid

[cerulean sable]

This is the internet were talking about and HK in the realm carries on the gitgud crowd thats problematic with a lot of games like these, this isnt just an HK thing tbf

[old compass]

[old compass]

off topic but it took me 10 hours to realize that your pfp is nine sols opening

[placid citrus]

i mean they're steam reviews, u can't be taking those srsly

[orchid spruce]

I exaggerated when I say "those three videos ruined..." ofc but it's a certainly a major contributor in the online fandom

The HK fandom is young, and it's a pattern seen in young fandoms, like Undertale and such

[old compass]

negative steam reviews that tells you to "go play the game it's peak" makes me wanna kill someone

[cerulean sable]

Ofc i get what you mean, its fuel to the fire

I just think its just inherent with the current status of online discourse

[placid citrus]

i disagree cuz fireborn is def part of a niche that most of the massive sk and hk fandom doesn't interact with

[orchid spruce]

Yeah, we agree

[orchid spruce]

replying to this

[placid citrus]

ye thems "y r u reading negative reviews? go play the game!!"

[old compass]

"y r u reading negative reviews" IDK, WHY AM I!??!?!?

BECAUSE I VALUE MY MONEY THAT'S WHY

[placid citrus]

also the joke ones get annoying cuz it's like 50% of the reviews

[old compass]

[cerulean sable]

Tbf id rather glimpse at steam revies vs the forums

90% of my forums interaction for any game is genuinely dogshit

[orchid spruce]

there's a forum?

wait, forum!! silksong reference!!!

[cerulean sable]

I still remember my one guy in the Total War forums asking for whats the best difficulty for the game and theres this one guy who kept going

"Ohhh this game is boringly easy and if you cant beat it in legendary diff you arent mentally equipped to play strategy games wink wink" and the lack of moderation means they just kept doing it

[orchid spruce]

[cerulean sable]

I dont usually say it but its genuinely rage bait most of the time, its that calling devs lazy and stupid for not pushing out updates within 2 months even if said devs consistently give out updates

[orchid spruce]

[silk monolith]

I hate fandom

I should js play how I play and check speedruns if i want thats about it

[cerulean sable]

True

I just have a curated list

You grow old internet vitriol is cringe

[silk monolith]

billions must love

[urban swan]

Silksong sucks because watcher of the edge wasn’t the main character

[cerulean sable]

Im just in that opinion that in thst i dont think its 1 to 1 all going to reach the final game yet

[lone crag]

watcher at the edge is cool

i liked the vibes they gave off

[silk monolith]

"of" holy poser

[cerulean sable]

I cant prove it but WotE probably blasts phonk music

[wide mango]

I think developers should do what I think is right because I definitely know how developing works

[urban swan]

He’s not at he IS the edge

[silk monolith]

poser I hardly know her

[urban swan]

No posing only GLAZING

SEA OF THE WATCHER DLC COMING SOON !!!

[cerulean sable]

I could do better mfers cooking up the the worst thing ever

[silk monolith]

mfs cooking up straight poison

[silk monolith]

theres a joke here

[urban swan]

I think I’ll keep the joke in there

[lone crag]

so what do you like about watcher at the edge

[urban swan]

Design is cool, the spot where he is is unique and was cool for me

[lone crag]

do you like coral tower too

[placid citrus]

there r skong forums??

[urban swan]

Yeah I like almost every enemy there

I’m hoping for an opening in sea of sorrow for more coral tower

[silk monolith]

I need more coral area

[urban swan]

https://tenor.com/view/fentcord-true-coyote-gif-2599436844608872721

[silk monolith]

can hornet swim

[silk monolith]

yes she can

[placid citrus]

they should add new stuff imo instead of revisiting old content

[urban swan]

I mean I mean she didn’t drown when you jump into water

[placid citrus]

she even swims in DIRTY water

[silk monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-no-perms-embed-gif-7654791517366642341

[urban swan]

I want both

I’m big and greedy

[silk monolith]

no youll get 2 new areas and 1 new crest and a few tools thats it

[cerulean sable]

Steam forums and i meant this in general, not just Silksong

Steam forums has an inbuilt forum per game and people will intentionally ragebait post because theyre farming the clown award, which gives them steam points they can use for profile customization

[urban swan]

I’m gonna kill you

[placid citrus]

oyeee i frogor those existed

[silk monolith]

evil woody:

[desert abyss]

What's embed?

[cerulean sable]

I feel like SoS size would be like Godmaster + 1 DLC sized personally

[urban swan]

The crest of sorrow

[cerulean sable]

But i might be wrong

[silk monolith]

lifeblood was a small dlc yeah?

[urban swan]

Sea of cherry

[placid citrus]

i think it'll def be bigger

[placid citrus]

lifeblood added 2 bosses

[urban swan]

How can you get image perms

[cerulean sable]

We never know if this "big expansion" is going to be a different type of big vs the older DLCs

[silk monolith]

what 2 bosses

[placid citrus]

wait i think it was just the hive knight mb

[silk monolith]

oh wow I didnt know the hive was a lifeblood expansion i thought it was part of the base game

by the time I started playing hk all dlc was out so I didnt know which was which

[cerulean sable]

Honestly half of my excitement is 50% on the new stuff and 50% of tweaks

Im the type of guy who gets super giddy reading "x now has 5 ammo instead of 4 and the projectile speed has been increased by 30%"

[remote ibex]

id imagine it would be since stuff like lifeblood just added a lot of missing things to the game

silksong came out a lot more polished than hk

[cerulean sable]

I miss those days in TF2 where a small change in a weapon can easily recontexualize it

[cerulean sable]

Ye

[remote ibex]

hive knight was iirc

the hive already existed but i might be wrong

[placid citrus]

we already got a bunch of patches tho

[remote ibex]

old clips ive seen you just walk in and take hiveblood without a fight

[cerulean sable]

It was the smallest relatively because it was focused on qol, optimization and tweaks

Bsck then Shroomal Warriors didn't make a death sound

[placid citrus]

it was just the hive knight, the area was base game

[cerulean sable]

Traitor lord was also a pushover

1 mask damage and 2 attackw

[remote ibex]

it also made nosk and traitor lord like a lot better

well nosk still kinda sucks idk

[placid citrus]

traitor lord was just a shade cloak tutorial

[remote ibex]

now he's a harder shade cloak tutorial

[orchid spruce]

I remember nothing about Traitor Lord except Cloak died

[silk monolith]

the ones that go waah whagyfufjsawaa?

[cerulean sable]

Yeah but people were crashing out cuz of the 2 mask damage

[orchid spruce]

wait Cloth

[cerulean sable]

Ye, they just died

No sound, until lifeblood

[remote ibex]

shade cloth died

[silk monolith]

thats ominous lmaoooo

[placid citrus]

ppl never change fr

[orchid spruce]

I remember looking up if Cloth death was permanent

and only calmed down when I read that she'll just be a depressed little bum if alive

[silk monolith]

whats the other boss then you said lifeblood was 2 bosses

oh you said mb I didnt see

[remote ibex]

hidden dreams added gpz white defender and dreamgate was there anything else in that update?

[placid citrus]

i was confusing it with the hidden dreams update

[silk monolith]

gpz?

[placid citrus]

grey prince zote

[placid citrus]

stag in basin?

[silk monolith]

stag basin

[remote ibex]

oh ok

[placid citrus]

the hidden dreams update added the hidden station

[cerulean sable]

Oh ancient basin had no stag

[placid citrus]

cinema

[remote ibex]

i kinda hope they add some benches in the sea of sorrow update

[cerulean sable]

They did add one already lol

[remote ibex]

wdym

[placid citrus]

they added a bench next to pale lake

[cerulean sable]

Fleatopia pre act 3 now has a bench

Ye

[remote ibex]

eh i more mean for boss runbacks

[placid citrus]

if they wanted to add benches they would've already added them by now

[remote ibex]

i mean you could say that about the stag station in ancient basin

[cerulean sable]

Ehh im fine with the runbacks personally i found them fun and forced you toget smooth like butter with the movement

[remote ibex]

groal's runback will always be ass cause of the enemies jumping out of the pit

[cerulean sable]

TLJ runback was memorable for me cuz i eventually learned to optimize it

[orchid spruce]

I think it adds unnecessary friction to exploration in a first playthrough

[placid citrus]

i remember hearing one of the VAs for silksong complaining abt the groal runback to tc before the game released and he said they should add a bench and team cherry said no

[remote ibex]

if it was just platforming and the secret bench wasnt as hidden id be fine with it

[placid citrus]

i think it was trobbio's va

[orchid spruce]

I mean, I optimized the hell out of Groal runback so it's whatever for me, but a first playthrough would be miserable

[remote ibex]

they made the maggots the most punishing hazard in the game and then put the secret bench in a pit of it

and there's usually not secrets there either so like wtf

[orchid spruce]

I even optimized the least time touching the bile water

[remote ibex]

its like they wanted most people to run through the entirety of bilewater every time

[placid citrus]

there's secrets in the maggot water

[orchid spruce]

in that first section out of the bench

[orchid spruce]

?

[remote ibex]

theres like 3 out of the 20+ pools in the game

[orchid spruce]

are there secrets in the maggots

[placid citrus]

weavenest with broken silkshot

[cerulean sable]

I understand people feeling that way but for me the optimization is also a big fun part so learning how to move to the point you avoid stuff efficiently and seeing how much you improve is one of my favorite part

I mean if they made bench closer im fine with it too but as of now i dont mind it

[placid citrus]

well yeah they won't be putting secrets in every single one, secrets r supposed to be hidden yk

[remote ibex]

yes im saying youre punished for testing to see if theres a secret

and 90% of the time there is none so it promotes you to not check the maggot water

and then they hid a bench in it so i assume they didnt actually expect most people to find the secret bench

[placid citrus]

i still checked the maggot water every time

[remote ibex]

i didnt cause i didnt wanna lose 9 silk very far into a difficult area

[buoyant urchin]

Smth interesting that bosses can get voided

[placid citrus]

not all

[orchid spruce]

Well, I know someone who survived cancer. Cancer is probably harmless.

[buoyant urchin]

But there is alot that do
Even phantom and khann for some reason

[placid citrus]

wat

[buoyant urchin]

Lost phantom

[placid citrus]

what did team cherry mean by this

[buoyant urchin]

Imma guess can memory bosses can be voided bec they didnt care to change it
Due to them not being in pharloom in the first place or smth

[placid citrus]

khan at the edge

[buoyant urchin]

Auto correct you suck you made me get confused

[placid citrus]

ye it's probs a case of em not doing anything cuz void and khan were never meant to interact

[buoyant urchin]

But phantom is also interesting
Makes me scared of uh

When pantheons come out

[placid citrus]

can phantom even make it to act 3

[buoyant urchin]

I think so?

She turned voided in a randomizer

[placid citrus]

i can't think of why not tbh