#sk-discussion
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i lowk disagree with this
one is about hallownest and other one is about pharloom
The only answer to the radiance is murder
i dont think that is what the game is actually trying to communicate
I mean… not really… the only reason he WASNT hollow was because of his parental bond
The knight isn't hollow at the start of the game
maybe the real hollow knight was the friends we made along the way ,,,
yeah and they’re lwk the same story with the same lore, just remixed pieces
The vessels inherently have a mind
there isnt any reason to emphasise the idea instilled and the knight coming to embrace its past etc... if that were the case
it is not like playing learning all about hallownest is necessary to understand pharloom
a mind ≠ not hollow
how so
Tossing them into the void didn't really do much to strip the free will
We can agree that our character more likely wouldn’t be
No MIND to think
i hope you’re ragebaiting and i haven’t read the previous chain of messages
oh well i should kill myself
people say its acting 'altruistically' is evidence of such but like that behaviour could just as well be algorithmic
Idk thats a pretty big part of the whole being hollow thing
if something tells it to do something it does it that isnt really good evidence
almost every theme/character in Silksong is repeated/remixed
and the vessels seem to have some kind of internal drive to fulfil their purpose that isn't indicative of cognisance
The knight doesn't have any goal or guiding force at the beginning of the game, they just blindly go through hallownests ruins for awhile until they find the statue of THK and a bit more exploring later get told "take dream knife, stab sleepy dudes then a god"
the vessel can make choices though, saving zote isn’t necessary for the passing of the torch
It chooses where to go, what to buy, who to save
Its implied that the Knight is called back because the radiance is breaking free
where in hollow knight do the vessels turn against PK and build a sparkling acropolis to attract bugs to keep him contained
The very fact that zote dying is an option is enough that the knight has a will
Because it can choose to not help someone, or to save someone
Thats a choice, the knight if hollow cant make choices
It would only be able to follow commands or directions
Hello
why are we arguing whether the knight has a will, you control the knight, you have a will, by connection the knight has a will
It can choose to allow zote to die or not, this has no impact to the knight or its goals
My point is the knight is never hollow
Helo
The vessels just AREN'T hollow its a crappy plan
The weavers don’t really count as vessels imo it would more be like lace doing that. But also notice how that’s just a remix of HK? A higher being is betrayed, and then sealed up. Now she has to escape. Obviously im reducing things quite a bit, but it’s not like the weavers are even THAT important to silksong’s actual story outside of connecting hornet to pharloom.
im not sure that just seems mind of meta, the knight can easily be acting on a set of guiding principles without a "mind" it is attracted to hallownest after thk fails as that is its purpose, in the same way a robot can be programmed with a set of goals in mind and the 'freedom' to make 'choices' that allow it to further that goal, sure it could be evidence of a mind but I dont see why everyone seems to present it factually
You cant strip everything that makes a living bug alive and still have a bug
Of course thats exactly what the pale king needed
Essentially a living robot so the radiance wouldn't escape
a lot of things are shifted around but yes both games involve dangerous beings being sealed away, that’s the entire extent of it
Read dream gate stuff from seer, hornet lines esp the black egg ones, void heart desc
Unfortunately, not possible, bad plan, you murdered enough babies to make a literal floor, and it was for nothing you idiot
alright give me a second
i wanted to see more weavers in skong but there was like none that we could’ve talked to
Because ANY choice is enough for the radiance to latch onto
Also and I cannot stress this enough do not expect this channel to say anything of merit 
A kingdom at the brink of collapse, a higher being infecting the people, we could either replace them or kill them. Killing them requires the void.
they all dipped ✌️
Saving zote is now an idea, an idea the radiance can latch onto
Was widow not talkative enough?
where should we go for merit? #sk-lore ? 
BLAAAAAHHHHH
she is not herself
Not in this server 
yeah, that’s like only 5% of both games main story
should have been a gollum like companion that we help actually save instead of killing
she is controlled by gms
Honestly the end of widows fight should have been ripping the pins from her spine
That way she lives and then immediately fucks off to leave pharloom
@wind mulch also read the WL vh dialogue that’s pretty explicit in that any appearance of mindlessness is superficial
Also GMS is rather narcissistic, since widow apparently sung to GMS at some point
No, that’s the main story that is actually presented to us in the game. Themes of motherhood are poorly implemented, GMS isn’t even something we really know about until the end of act 2. Lace isn’t an actual character until Phantom and the cradle.
i think binding the needolin out of her literally kills her 😭
Theres a needolin room in the cradle with widow singing
Well yeah binding a creature removes their will
We know that from eva
i’m so tired we’ll just agree to disagree, nothing against your point at all
They cease to be a separate entity
is there any proof that she is directly being haunted at all? As far as we know GMS has no actual will over the weavers, which is why they were even allowed to escape and trap her.
Playing the Needolin during her fight shows she's haunted.
really???
Yes.
widow is very devoted to GMS, controlling or not
GMS used more deception against the weavers than direct control, something she rectified with her later minions
Hence the haunting
Yeah but there seems to be.. several contributing reasons to that
Also why the first sinner got locked in the fuck you cage
She revealed to the weavers GMS' deception
bro, wtf team cherry you aren’t even able to have the needolin during that fight no shot they coded that lmao
Allowing them to revolt
They prepping for godhome DLC
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i literally cant find any needolin dialogue
They know everyone would immediately play needolin at required fights pre needolin
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Not the dialogue, it shows she's being puppeted with silk strings.
ok yea this seems pretty contradictory to what I thought
the HELL is that username 😭 🙏
So wait a second, lace is "haunted" but also free enough to directly defy GMS while shes trying to drag hornet into the void
2:52
though again you wouldn't able to acess this in game without modding so 
is lace haunted ??
I mean she stops immediately to sing to the needolin
well she is made of silk
so do garmond and zaza
Yeah shes pure GMS silk
so do non-haunted pilgrims
Garmond does that for the love of the game
the needolin works on people not haunted too
Non haunted pilgrims choose to sing tho
like trobbio
They love music so they sing given chance
Hell all of songclave does the moment you play
so does the non-haunted bell beast, literally everyone sings to the needolin
even grey root
Emo theater kid would sing to the worlds smallest violin playing for pharloom
however im not sure the idea that hollowness is an impossible property is disproven by it, I did believe that the knight itself developed or potentially even started with a will but I think that development is the point, I don't think the "idea instilled" would be such a focal point of the story if that werent the case, unless the pale king truly was just uninformed
needolin isn't enough you gotta look for the strings when using needolin
wtf why is lace laughing like that instead of singing 😭
It kind of isn’t a focal point tho
Its a pretty consistent idea that the pale king was just consistently uninformed lol
yeah even if it makes sense, it kinda ruins the PoP story if they were never hollow
Hornet literally calls the dude a moron for thinking he could tame the void
i dont think it ruins it i just interpreted it differently
And to be fair, the void got pissed at him trying to control it, and murdered him
isn’t that kinda the point? the void is so beastly that it’s kinda hollow.
Well if their relationship ISNT the reason that THK failed, then it drastically reduces the impact of their bond
its the closest thing we get to an explanation as to why thk isnt hollow no? other than the obvious notion that hollowness just isnt possible
"void beastfly", I need glasses
I mean, that reason is the reason THK failed so quickly
which is kinda the point.. if it is nothing, that’s the ultimate hollowness. If anything he DID tame the void and thats why they failed.
also the pale king felt a need to hide it to such a degree
panic inducing misread
so peak 🥹
It was sitting there, nothing to do or think about except "i love my dad, and i can never think about loving my dad ever"
he surely must have felt that this was the moment his plan failed?
No, because the creatures aren't just void, they are half pale being as well
That is the reason he sealed the memory in the POP
yeah which sounds awesome if this is the reason the radiance won.. but at the very best it just sped it up? not really as cool
It’s not just there to hide it read the seal of binding journal entry
so he tamed the void with his seed? seems pretty awesome to me
No congrats bro, Act 2 was honestly born of pure hatred
I mean the radiance was pretty much gonna escape, THK is a half assed plan overall
I mean he screwed a tree, then threw a COMICAL amount of babies into the dark death juice
Like, how do you even have that many babies to throw
impregnated his wife and killed all of his spawn.. the void was tamed bro why are we coping
Theres a literal floor of dead babies where are you getting these
dude he was locked tf in on the white lady 😭 🙏
But then why did the void mirder him
we would all be 🤤
Can someone explain what the hell are these seats in act 2.
sorry I don't really understand how that contradicts, this would still be something of great importance
He saw the future as wyrm and immediately went, i need to follow the future that lets me crack that as many times as possible
does white lady have any origin or she just appear
unless im really misinterpreting something
the void didn't the void is lowkey chill 🥶
why would a cowboy kill his dying horse?
call them up all the time
Hes literally leaking void from his eyeballs in his throne
no he ain't
Either PK and the void got some kinky shit going on
andy might be secretly void bro
Or that man very dead
I don't think he was
the only void thing about it was there were void particles
Im boutta go do white palace all over again just to spite that man
pale king so tuff that he wiped the void off his face after death
also i last played this game in 2020 so there is a really good chance i am just completely misremembering stuff so sorry if thats the case
It’s being preserved as a memory, it’s added characterization for pk nothing really suggests it’s why the plan failed and WL talking about an idea instilled is her trying to rationalize the failure when she later realizes and states with the VH dialogue that she could never tell in the first place
give me 30 seconds
30 second white palace wtf
PK to the white lady
reminds me of those car crash memes where they crash and are knocked out/die but a really bad song plays and they wake up just to close it 🥹
nevermind he literally isn’t leaking void what were you on about dude 😭
looking up a vid
justin bieber meme
He needed way more than 30 seconds remember thats a COMICAL amount of babies
She demonstrates the assumptions they made about vessels were faulty
underestimating my goat
Ah yes, the key to saving the kingdom, guesswork and baby murder
the Pale king was so good at intercourse that the White lady literally restrained herself after he left because she knew she would never find a bug as good as him
He definitely knew this was all gonna happen, but his future vision saw the white lady and how many times hed hit and he just went "worth"
no cost too great went slightly further than it was intended to here
he needed that one pop on herrah for WL to feel fresh again 🥀
I see yea that does make sense as an explanation
Gotta be the worst post-n#t clarity ever tho
That was great..... ah crap i just murdered everyone to hit
Sum1 explain how these seats work in the underworks??
Pay, sit, no more sit
capitalism
the whole idea instilled thing just felt too important to me to end up being a failure in their logic rather than anything meaningful but it does seem more likely
mechanically or lore-wise
But atleast they all will let me respawn on them right???
Lore wize: fuck the underworks workers
Mechanically: fuck you rosary tax
i'll probably have to replay the game or touch up on the lore before I can really continue to engage though
that’s just because the story hypes it up and then backtracks on it i guess
Yes
but cheers
yeah
yes you just pay every time you wanna sit again without dying
Aka, its cheaper to die than pay to rest
Does this continue till the end or just a under works thing?
tbh the paid benches really aren’t that bad, you’re not likely to backtrack back to them so as a one time spawn point they work pretty well. The only other time is Nyleth.
its like literally that bench and maybe one other in the underworks
i’d like to imagine hornet standing by the bench toll and just jamming herself in the heart with her needle
the bugs in the underworks are very abused, the bugs in the citadel live lavishly
I think the pay benches is only in underworks
there also a normal one I think? maybe not
yes in the architects house
Doing hk 112 was not half as hard as ts bruh
i know right isn’t it awesome
can you access that from the dropdown sequence?
dropdown from the elevator I mean
from the grand gate
no only through the other elevator on the right
underworks is lwk the best designed area in the game
cooked
i KNOW it’s my second favorite behind mt fay
mt fay?? bro 😭
dude mt fay is so pretty and the parkour is the funnest parkour segment in the whole series
my opinion tho
yes i agree but like.. it’s so linear
i would like it more if it was an area that had that as a focal point
i honestly like that about it for some reason, it makes me look forward to it in every playthrough
Reaper crest giving me jjs hakari ifykyk
so.. mid..?
Neither hakari nor reaper are mid
reapers crest is so funny because if something is short enough you just miss it half the time
Actually hakari might be, but its the getting the heal/ult again instantly after losing it
meant design wise
lwk a balanced trade off for having the easiest pogo in the game
i prefer longnail wanderer just cuz i’m fine sacrificing a little bit of range for instant attacks
reaper longnail pogo has ABSURD range though
yeah same with the witch
honestly it’s easier for moving targets like flea bounce
i understand this but i lwk feel like the game isn’t designed around wanderer
it feels way to unfair to use it imo
wanderer feels like the TAS tryhard crest
i always just mained hunter
yeah i mained hunter my first playthrough because it was a new game
i think maining really funky architect builds would be extremely fun though
also the game literally feels only balanced around hunter
architect and fun in the same sentence sob
OMG AN ACTUAL FAIR BENCH
boom autonomous drones but what’s that also a literal railgun but oh snap i also just gave myself another heart because i felt like it oh im out of ammo well that’s too bad sike not anymore
every bench is fair except for bile water
exactly lol
he’s uh talking about the literal capitalist abuse underworks benches ??
it’s a shame because architects needle stuff is really fun
yeah but like in reality none of them are actually bad 😭
like you’ll never reuse them anyway because thats a tutorial section
dude i once forgot to equip a tool and had to spend another 15 rosaries ts is not fair 😭
bro what tool could you POSSIBLY need for the 5 minute underworks section
you’re saying a loadout of infinitely using the most insane looking weapons isn’t fun
idk i don’t remember
not really like lwk on the playthrough im doing currently i used only TWO volt vessels on lace 2 while she was staggered and i skipped the final phase
i was so sad
ik they’re unnecessary but it sounds rather fun
OMG I WAS SCARED OF THESE OPEN ASS AREAS CAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN THERES A BOSS AND OFC LACE RANDOMLY APPEARED
hehhahaheehhhah
i just don’t know how it would ever be fun unless it’s a boss you despise (trobbio)
dw ur fine bro but be more careful now enemies will actually spawn
Watch her have a whole new moveset and whopp my ass 40 times
And have like a billion minions too
and ROSARIES 🤑💰
she acfually does change her entire moveset and has adds in her final fight lol
make sure to be prepared before finishing act 2
the bugs right before the cogwork core 🤤
i love how many people complained about the lack of rosaries in the negative reviews on launch
like once you reach act 2 you’re SWIMMING in rosaries
Not at underworks tho lol
well yeah but once act 2 picks up
yeah but tbh i find myself having plenty of rosaries in act 1, but in act 2 i actually have to grind to get everything that i want (and because of donations)
also the fact that silksong had like 6x the concurrent players that hk ever had is tragic because you should NOT be playing silksong first
like there are so many things to buy, and i was even trying to fight every single enemy this playthrough
true but a lot of HK fans are after launch
a lot of people got into it via moist critikal
first impressions matter
If experienced hk players were suffering then only God knows what those guys weny through
i recently replayed true ending cuz i hadn’t played silksong in a while and never had to grind rosaries a single time
yeah but first impressions will be wrong 99% of the time when it comes to game design
did anyone actually suffer with silksong if they were experienced
silksong is a fairly easy game
Huh, actually decently fair
did you go for every mask and spool tho?
i think my friend who had 112% hk took like 40 minutes on moorwing but he hadn’t played hk in a long time
2 masks, 2 needle upgrades, and the only spool upgrades were on accident (2 upgrades)
dude people who actually struggled on moorwing and sister splinter are not real
im still pissed that they got nerfed
even with hk I'd say yeah
but ofc once you have some experience with ss itself its not a big hassle at all
ik i spent like 15 mins max on moorwing and i think i did ss in like 4 tries lol
that might be the reason tbh, you have to buy a decent amount of those things and they’re super expensive. I had like 8-9 masks going into act 3 and all of my spool
yeah there are parts of ss that are debatable but none of those parts are hunters march or MOORWING
how much rosaries did you have bro 😭
that’s like 700 rosaries combined
idk i only sold like 2 relics
chat i js got to act 2 without sitting on a single bench if I quit out rn where would I restart
the wishes give you a ton of rosaries
your position gets saved as soon as act 2 starts sorry bud 🥀
oh that's great lmao thats what I want
probably when you fall down
unless you don’t wanna go back to the start of the game and this isn’t an experiment
oh yeah you good
why would I fall down
depends on how you enter act 2 but yeah probably just at the room
yeah i did every wish as they came through
yeah i js wanna check how quick i got to act 2
LMFAO
how many ways are there in the citadel again from act1 again? 3?
true, if you had control of hornet in hallownest you wouldn’t have gotten captured by those dummy citadel bugs
two ?? where tf is this 3rd entrance 😭
2 normal
GMS’s thighs 🤤
A few more glitch ones
yeah sure dude what the hell did i just read
you hate art if you dont agree
grrr
only character i actually thought was fine was nyleth highkey don’t get the GMS glaze
NYLETH??
y'all know you could just take this way right
dude the CURVES
thats the third
i tried but its impossible vanilla
you need double jump or clawline or something
Nope
what that’s a picture of you going from the citadel to the citadel what do you mean brother
WAIT TRUE
You can totally just
Never do left underworks
what map is this
no it’s possible, you can hit the platforms with needle from below to shift them
grand gate
not what i mean bro
i tried this but i could not find a way theough
look harder
how is that not what you mean
And yeah you need to do green prince instead of nyleth but you can
alright I should've specificed
ways into act 2
lmao ong
it’s the silksong map ? i’m rather confused
Lj, phantom.
ACT 2 STARTS WHEN YOU ENTER THE GRAND GATE 
im asking what theyre using for the screenshot
oh it does?
dude she’s a flower.. are you talking about her petals??
js hit the platforms lmao
yes vro 😭
right I forgot that's my bad
yeah
is there a hallownest.net type thing for silksong
open your eyes
well i found this https://scripterswar.com/silksong/map
Silksong Interactive Map. Free unlimited progress tracking. No login. No ads. Upload save file to mark collected icons.
YOU WERE ON ABOUT SUM ENTERING GMS’S THIGHS BRO
i want her
okay actually why is there more art for nyleth than gms
this is actually so unfair
she dont even have legs 😭
art on what bro
not the one i know but it works
i’d explain what most art does but i dont wanna get in trouble
which one do you know bro
ughhhh im on my phoneeee
thank you BTGorilla
the interwebs
grub cat
grub cat ^
the girl should be in a GMS cosplay lwk
i see the potential
guys what
whats up
the sky
where
gottem !!
i think he was referring to the image try there
ts so peak
wholesome HK discord moment
🥀
can the mods ban him
who
yeah i’m pretty sure they can
they have that ban button thing that bans people so i’d imagine
not real
the pale king had a ban button for the radiance and he still screwed it up
where was the ban button bro
i literally met my wife in this server what are you talking about
the white lady 😳
no clue what a wife is but alright
dude we are losing you
the green prince:
i hink.. grand mother silk
to what
real...
false advertising
On the collection thingy
funny
..
was crust king khan ever shown to have a cool moveset
that stage looks awesome why did they change it
the area got cut
I think he had 0.5s of screen time
I know that
the coral tower is still well and here vro
Could've kept it the same tho
no way he was always this bad
yeah but how could this ever be in a tower 😭
always shows ancient screenshots for every game for some reason
there’s pillars
Coral got demoted to a dream area
i’m like 95% certain we’ll get the full coral area in the final game
doubtful
how would you justify this
in the trailer the coral area had steel bugs and i don’t think they were ready to do city of steel stuff
coral? water? sea? sea of sorrow?
On the trailer, he just jumps, screams and uses this normal attack
yeah i was being dumb but i still think the current arena is better
yall acting like dlcs gonna add a bunch of new shit when hk dlcs only really added one area
yeah but this is silksong
awww thanks for checking
dude the sea of sorrow reveal says “MULTIPLE new areas and bosses” that instantly makes it more expansive than any hk dlc
i really hope so!
but we gotta lower our expectations guys
they’ve definitely expanded. SS seems like it’s going to repurpose cut content for DLC, but since the coral area was added in some way I doubt we’ll ever get a full version
i think sos will be the biggest silksong dlc
i dunno
it wont all be that big but its definitely the only baseline we can go off of so far
seeing how a godhome type thing wasn’t the first dlc they’ve got something planned for it
No my expectations are through the roof and if TC fails to deliver perfection I will do that one patchy the pirate scene
nah the godhome is gonna be the city of steel and we’re gonna get a fight against the knight
we're kinda out of cut content past the stuff sos is adding
coral and city of steel area
no?? the gloom is right there lol
see this is the kind of expectations we shouldnt be setting
plus there’s plenty of stuff that we dont know about
gloom was repurposed basically
not really rhis is super basic 😭
ehhh kinda it was really just reimagined
coral place was turned into coral tower and yeah steel stuff would be cool
the coral tower kept the same basic theming and idea though, the gloom area got pretty much removed
mio took the gloom so team raspberry replaced it with stomach bile
forever thankful tho because bilewater is peak 🥹
we really dont know anything about the gloom but i dont think it was very exciting (probably why it was cut)
it seemed to be very void related, which is enough to interest me. Besides we have shellwood in this game so I don’t think it was cut because it wasn’t “exciting” 😭
Funny thing, Karmelita actually was reworked since that version. Initially she would do the beyblade jump and summon 3 lame and slow bones to her back instead of how the current works, with multiples bones forward.
LMAO good point
this is actually so interesting?? was karmelita intended to be an early game boss or something??
i genuinely don’t know what purpose shellwood could possibly have lol
i mean theres some minor lore and shit and it does fit in with the world but yeah it is definitely a boring area in terms of gameplay
well gameplay and aesthetic, it’s just a basic forest area. There is literally nothing more to it.
She also sounded like a guy
tomboy karmelita is.. lost media?
yes
Not early, but both Khann and Karmelita were mid-late game. There wasn't even an act 3 yet, I'm pretty sure
true...
My question is why haven't the citadel torn it apart for its resources
im straight up doing cogwork core with 5 masks, no grip, no frac, no clawline, hunter crest
They tend to do that for pretty much everything
ive been so sucked into other games recently i forgot sea of sorrow is tomorrow
Well didnt team cherry say that they didn’t officially label them as acts? Maybe the idea of a void related act was late into development, but late game had to be planned right?
Is that even possible
Old karmelita looks like a boss from the first hk lmao
what did they even tear down before?
i'm doing it
because theres NOTHING in shellwood bro
whoa everythings blurrier in the new version
That difference in spikes is so funny
yeah that’s why i had to leave my wife today 😔
The deep docks have been turned into an industrial complex, greymoor was turned into a silk recycling center
like what could be the purpose 😭
I'm sorry for your loss 🕊️
yeah true but then like every other part of pharloom hasnt been 😭
I would say sinners road is a roach farming factory, but thats not by the citadel, thats just starving people need to eat
Type of attack game journalists complain about
she was toxic anyway didn’t like me spending 10 hours of my day on discussing HK
starving people need to starve 🔥
well they are sinners so
do y'all think Sea of Shawrow will be shadow dropped?
wow you shouldve left her earlier
ion think i can do this 💔
wood 😭
Bone bottom and the marrow lack anything, far fields is, well, far, greymoor is in use, shellwood could be torn apart for building materials, and the blasted steps are under control/use as the last test for pilgrims before the citadel
i remember so little about acts 1 and 2 because i spent like 40 hours in act 3 and also played base hollow knight for like 3 months
i dont know where to get ANY tool
Bilewater is where they dump all the waste, and the ducts are honestly im not sure but they got maggots there
they just need to make a minecraft tree farm imo
I just witnessed the most convincing silkpost ever
one time i tried calling her a vessel and i said that i was the radiance 🤤
The Citadel and Nyleth made a deal for Nyleth to make Shellwood safe for pilgrims to walk through.
forcefully breed nyleth so that she can produce more wood yo
I hope we get a dlc memory of bilewater where it isn’t abandoned and taken care of like the putrified ducts area
Ironic considering most of them will be killed be judges in the next area.
If they die they sinned anyway

They should slime you
The citadel is very harsh on its "no dying" policy
dude is there even an actual reason for this? If the whole purpose of the citadel and the religion is to keep GMS sleeping, why do we have a judge that kills everyone
with her void 🤤
I don't know, Silksong lore is awful.
To the point that dying and refusing to revive is a sin so dire they refuse you rites and cremate you for your silk
okay what the hell
I mean, Karmelita would reside on actual physical anthill & coral gorge would be alive, verdania too. Early versions of this game were very different
It dosent kill everyone, only sinners, sherma got through fine
Turns out hornet killing literally everything in her path is a sin
Yeah but the sands of karak are right there.. Also isn’t bone like really strong?
Somebody lock this dude up
it’s called roleplay bro
The giant skeletons on the background are cool
So strong that it takes a monumental effort to dig through it yes
Thats what the underworks workers do, its rather difficult to dig through
Hearing this always makes me very sad.. Early Silksong seems so much more interesting
I want the steel bugs we saw in trailers
how do people get through if its only hornet who’s ringing the bells?
city of steel dlc coming in 10 years
So much cool shit was scrapped man
Man the scrapped content in silksong looks so cool
i really wish we could explore older versions yeah
There’s smth about the lighting and backgrounds
ugh we really needed more ants bro
i wish team cherry kept in the cut ending tho... they even had the whole cutscene animated
wait they dig through the bone?

raid
what was it
in the 2026?
The drill is for digging through rock and bone
Its a tool of the underworkers (but they are all doing maintenance at this point)
dude im such a larper 😔
i didn’t even know that about my favorite area
Man i think drill is a bit overrated so IG im a larper
I much prefer my throwable lightning strike or just a fucking bomb
so.. they just merge?
I don't think too much about it bc there's a (high imo) chance actually playing these levels wasn't that great.
But I recommend searching more about cut content, wiki has lots of stuff (https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Cut_Content_(Silksong))
This page contains a list of cut content for Hollow Knight: Silksong. Before the release of the game, some content was announced or shown that ultimately did not make it into the final release. Some cut content was never announced but can instead be found in the game's files. This page contains the gallery, and information on more minor types of...
Thats what binding is yeah
tools aren’t always about the overpowered ones 😭
yeah GMS takes over Hornets body and power or smth
That would be a cool ending for steel soul
Okay but do any of us actually think about shit like longpin or straight pin
Well sure, maybe they were flawed. But i’d argue that a majority of silksong is already flawed lol.
Threefold pin at least gets spread and peirce
why does the wiki consider this a good ending 😭
How dare you, lost lace hit this mfer with that 3 mask damage
because you misread the wiki
dude the way they balanced the pins makes it so threefold is the only one worth using. You think it would be like a shotgun, but they balanced it so that it kinda just works like the normal pins 😭
yep i did!
It does reduced damage per pin hit on the same target, but it does a decent base damage for the first hit
So yeah it's just throwing spread peircing pins
Longpin just sucks and has always sucked
why would an ending that requires you to weaken GMS be a bad ending tho? was she overpowered in the earlier versions of the lore?
I'm of the opinion that (generally) there's reasons stuff gets cut. Would be really cool to play those versions and find out by ourselves tho
Yknow for throwing a SPEAR it does ass damage
Early writes had her basically like the radiance and the bells that open the citadel were tuning forks that attuned to and weakened her to a state were hornet could actually fight her
Which makes laces comments about GMS being the divine make alot more sense
I’d be inclined to agree with like any other game studio, but TC seems like they always bite off more than they can chew, leading them having to cut content or rush it (like act 3).
Since those were probably written earlier when Gms was supposed to actually be a final boss style threat instead of grand fodder
So like what would hornet have done wrong in the earlier versions for her to still lose??
Ignoring those tuning forks would essentially leave GMS way to strong to challenge, leading to an automatic loss
Hense strung to serve, where going face to face with an unweakened GMS was basically just a death sentence
doesn’t it say the opposite
at first i thought i was blind but wow this is worded horribly
was act 3 really rushed?
or is this just a subjective opinion
Act 3 is always where I have the most fun
feels kinda rushed
I continue to admire how cool it is that the Underworks Ventrica & Twelveth Architect are separated by a collapsible bridge. It's always a treat to use it as part of the communute.
I’m also bias cus I love gurr the outcast
TC literally admits to working on it last
Absolutely.
oh, okay
maybe it didn't feel rushed to me because i spent half the time i spent in act 3 just thoroughly combing pharloom over and over again
it lwk gets annoying, takes way too long to work
i could have fought lost lace for 20-25 hours before i actually did
but like notice how almost nothing changes in pharloom 😭
could you explain this
but i decided to chase down 100% first (and in probably the longest possible way to do so)
It’s the most challenging part of the game and each heart you take feels really sick atmosphere wise, going into the past of the highest past authorities is just cool
Lost verdania is also one of the best areas to me , the music , the look and the enemies are so cool
is it actually that challenging though..? Karmelita and Lost Lace, sure, but what other boss in act 3 is actually hard? It’s not like there are new areas to explore either, the bosses are all this act has really.
lwk i can understand liking the aesthetic of Verdania but it is a bottom 5 area in the game for me personally

I mean not anymore cus I’ve beaten the game too many times now lmao but I’m talking as in the first few times
At some point obviously it’ll get way easier
sure but what’s actually hard besides karmelita and lost lace
Tbh I don't see the "bite off more than they can chew". I think they're perfeccionists (which is worse probably), and keep trying to improve and change ideas after doing too much work on any of them
Probably crust king khan if somebody hates gauntlets , some voided up bosses that you don’t kill at act 2 I suppose
I sorely wish Lost Verdania had a bench.
this is exactly what i mean!! (sorry if i explained it poorly)
See? like none of the act 3 bosses except for maybe the main 3 are considered hard lol
same palestag is so annoying
It's ok dw
I was more so talking about every enemy in the game that’s not a boss being stronger which was a really cool touch
wholesome HK server moments
Its like finding a gem in a coal mine
Act 3 just always feels excited cus I also happen to like majority of its bosses , like crow father isn’t hard but it’s still cool how you even get to him
yeah but it’s artificial difficulty, they just have way more hp.. their new moves are all generic and don’t really add much
I’m trying to do that in my playthrough right now and its actually annoying the hell out of me?! am i supposed to just wait while sitting at a bench
or a pollen bud in a nyleth (ifkyykkyktkt)
It’ll be at a random bench
like anywhere? because the wiki said near greymoore
From what I remember
I got the craw summons at the first bench I sat at
Thought that was normal before seeing others talk about it lol
it lwk should be normal, being judged for your actions immediately after screwing pharloom over would be so cool
But now i’m forced to wait an eternity hoping for the rngods to save me
I think the very few things I’d complain about in this game is how they take away tech that is found by speedrunners with items especially
team cherry hates fun
It’s really crazy how people find crazy stuff like that and put it into use noones ever thought of before
yeah but that’s not even like a top 10 way that they prevent the player from having fun
"bench located somewhere around the Greymoor-adjacent regions. Common benches that work include those in Far Fields or Bellhart"
Random chance (increases as you complete act 3 objetives) when you sit on a bench. Leave the room and sit again if you didn't get it. There's lots of benches you can do this, it's very generous with what they consider "near greymoor"
I think it starts at 20% and maximizes at 50%? something like that
carter according to my calculations you should be sleeping rn
first the speedrunners, then the nohitters, then the modders, and finally, the regular players....
how would you even calculate this
you have been talking since 12 hours ago with little breaks in between
😔
bruh
the farther you progress in act 3 the higher the chance as well
this isn’t common i swear!!
Ofc the guy with the Cornifer pfp knows his way around
Goat
I asked shakra
shakra is such a downgrade from cornifer
That’s a lie they’re both awesome
YES
Just say you jealous of that singing voice ✌️
i always get mine at the karmelita bench lmao
cornifer humming > all
pissed me off every time, cornifer made me excited (if you know what i mean 😏)
Need to see a boss in silksong where it’s just Cornifer throwing maps at you
i mean theoretically he’s pretty damn strong
To bilewater with you
i love bilewater
Where's iselda bossfight
my bedroom
or cornifer taking out your map
shawarma :D
Iselda the TRUE knight
he’s so cutie patootie!!
Pinmaster and Nailsmith collab when
Someone’s gotta pass on the knowledge
the knowledge of ONE nail art 😭
What are yall favourite bug in hk and ss
Mine are traitor lord and gurr they’re both neat
iselda lace GMS hornet white lady
idk, cornifer I guess...
and silksong garmond and zaza
They're too cute
Garmond is so awesome I got the fangamer figure of him
Yessss
holly... I need one 
oh god, reverie under the moonlight is so fucking ass
them together is also adorable
it also uses the true save system
Heloo towel
Reminds me of the one guy who was reaching for some food in hk
but it is boring as fuck and it thinks making me do its boring sections over and over is fun
That guy is EVIL
rant
helloo rocky
wasn’t he eating like a dead bug
little boy's just hungry
They also want to eat the knight iirc
what?? really!?
Yeah dream nailing him tells it
wait whats the dialogue
goddamn lmao
this elderly woman seems fine too, right?
it's the bankteller
reverie is like 1$
a
cuz it's on sale
not exactly my type ngl
ah makes sense
LOL
i intend to play it through
to create a new negative tier on my list
my list rn only has Liked and above
Disliked and Hated will join
just to hate lmao
yess
Make us appreciate the good stuff more ig
it does
i played 20 minutes of that and literally can't take it anymore
so back to rusted moss
it also has instakill spikes
what brilliance
why is this game put in the same tier as GRIME
i was scammed
Fr?? I don't remember that
Have funn! I'm going to sleep now I think
good night
did you try playing Celeste?
Just a tiny bit
yeah, i didn't continue after chapter 1. i think precision platformer is bit much for me.
There's almost no punishment to dying in celeste tbf
but it's fun
Yeah
a different style, like 64 bits
There's a bunch of accessibility options if difficulty was the problem
Rusted Moss has those too btw. It's cool to see
i try to play the intended way but that's neat to keep in mind thx
Np!
wholesome ♥️
still doesnt feel real silksong is out
gotta go guys
bye u all
yeah honestly it doesn’t.. you’d think that something we waited 7 years for would still be in the main gaming sphere 8 months later
bye cornifer
fr
Like it feels surreal
Goodnight alex da durex!
turns out if you overhype something to death it will feels meh
tbh parts of silksong aren’t overhyped at all
Idk what she's talking about guys (aí não kk)
i meant the whole cult culture on the release of silksong
DON'T LAUGH LIKE THAT
i dont really get hyped for games at all anyways so i wont understand hype anyways XD
but also the general audience is too dumb to actually understand the problems of silksong.. they always criticize the 2 mask damage or arenas.
LMAOOO
lucky duck
It's weird getting used to it
guys i am beginner i am playing for first time and its so confusing , its like a maze . any tips ?
did you play HK
i am playing hk only
oh hk and sk are different games , i didnt know
oh well theres a hk discussion channel here that may be more helpful
but my advice is to just remember areas that you can’t reach yet, and look for a mosquito guy when you hear humming. He’ll typically leave paper on the ground. You can buy a map from him that covers each area in the game.
when i was struggling, i assigned different things to every area (etc humming = map = near left of well = drop down)
hello
For you too! Now I go
hi!
bro responded 12 minures later 😭
just kinda relating things to each other to lead to a path in my brain
yall was sea of sorrow released last friday or was that fake
DUDE?? youd know 😭
fake haha funny silkpost
when is sea of sorrow gonna drop i lowkey had a lucid dream and made it all about the dlc
no no, just adding my 101⁰
palermo is an Italian city with a distinct fighting style
i also like angles bro
its in limbus company which I love very much
tbh when i for the first watched my brother play and was fooled by the stupid hunters march bench and he was like WHAT THE F-
is this a sequel to lethal company
oh, this is referencing a song I like
"antegrade fever, 101 degrees"
Horrible news
wow! i think thats lethal
do I have gif perms. gambling time!
lwk i can understand being pissed off but i was able to react in time soooo
dont
FUCK
why do You have it
i copied ur link
But like. How do you have image perms.
mod?
?tag perms
No tag perms found.
?tag perm
No tag perm found.
i hate my life
why?
wth is going on here
try to pull up image perms tage its like 300 messages for image perms
im old! (deltarune ref)
i dont rhink its acrually 400
i got it an hour ago and im at a thousand
ow i got pricked by a needle
hornet reference
it is currently 3:12 am
should I:
sleep
or:
bother my bf
Play hollow knight
❌
why dont you sleep with him
he's in britain bro
oh so why wouldnt you be talking to him if its like morninf there
would if i could.
cuz it's not morning for ME
yeah but if you’re tired go to bed if not talk to him
what is it for you
3:16 am
are you from america
media literacy final boss 😭
sadly yes
huh wdym
why sadly
america has a horrible government
if you dig a hole deep enough you might reach me
dig in ur butt twin
I'm not your twin you weeb 
which country? usa?
Yyyyyes
awww is that because of the racism part
no it's just your message
which part?
indeed it is my friend
"dig in ur butt"
what’s wrong with that
stupid internet slangs
itll reach the same corruption levels in some years tho
@old compass where you local to?
east
ok
im sensing a lot of tsundere energy from you
ew more internet slangs
dude
@clear fulcrum are you from brawl stars
that word has existed way before the internet 😭
yes but only for a limited time
uh, shitty weeb culture slangs
sup id?
i dont actually play brawl stars bro 😭
pretty sure it’s just a japanese word bro 😭
that’s like saying that otaku is an internet word
japanese words spelled in letters is just weeb words
why not

why cant we just kiss
why can't I just crucify you
oh your gonna point that gun on me
it’s pretty boring imo if i were to play a mobile game somewhat seriously it’d be like pokemon unite or sum
awww you like me so much that you’re putting me on the same pedestal as jesus 🥹🥹
well are you roman
no
she is mormon
so then it would most likely be religious
how are they scary 😭
I said I'm from the east 💔
you believe in cows?
everything is in the east to an american 🥹
no
my sister said that my spirit animal is a cow
she is 100% right
are you a zoophile per chance
do you believe in shamanism
no
what the hell
bro she isnt a snail 😭
proof
shes RACIST
japan
is it antartica
that proofs she is a snail
no japan has a lot of cults dude
nuh uh the snails love everybody ❤️🩹
time to play MIO again
is it actually good
but japan has a high rate of atheism
masterpiece
better than silksong or hk?
better
my bad I think it was korea instead
are there any hot chatacters
ok so your racist to asians
are you in china
I'm racist towards the human race
how does someone even do that
that might be because my friend in korea says there are missionaries on the streets who are trying to make you a member of their church
isnt that just a specist thing then
they're clankers
squid games
racist to your own kind?
im racist towards my own race only
is that a problem
the twelth architect in silksong is a bug clanker bro..
this is totally objective and not at all subjective, please study this sheet of fact
seems like you’re projecting
silksong with better platforming than HK 😭

platforming also includes general movement
you aren't convincing me hk has better movement
so what? silksong never actually utilizes it
and it’s not like HK has bad movement whatsoever
i like silksong platforming
if that’s the case then silksong’s movement is just potential man
regardless of that, mio's platforming is simply superior in every way
you don't need to argue about that
90% of it is just pogo three balloons in a row until clawline where you clawline into hooks.. which isnt very hard..
i don't care about hard
well I havent played mio so I’m just kinda looking at the stuff I do know
yes you do lol
i care about fun
if you care about hard platforming, mio also has that
it doesn't even matter if you like hk or ss platforming better, mio's platforming simply mogs
Yeah doesn’t have cool bugs tho does it
🥳
There is no sea, there is no of, and there is no sorrow.
Sea of sorrow is NOT tomorrow
Actual lies
i really don't understand how you get the decimal degree accuracy
can ||seth|| like fuck off pls no i cant get that high of a score in ||fleatopia|| pls go away
the criteras to calculate these aren't in the pic
You’re fine
Use shaman
Also try to start pogoing some of the fleas when it gets really bad in flea dodge
use the beast crest 
I'm right
it works, trust me
Use beast and eat the fleas
That's how you find out flea brew is made of flea liquids
Yum
if hornet gets another tool that gives her temporary buffs like the flintslate and flew brew what would it be
Increases likeliness of sea of sorrow the following day after usage
No you are left
I almost want to crucify you for saying that
How long did yalls playthroughs take?
112 hours
25 hour for weaver queen ending, something like 76 for sister of the void
weaver queen for me 47 hours
maybe like 61 hours for final ending
I can get all endings in 1 run like hk right?
Yeah


